December 18, 2025 • 45 mins
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We explore how regression reframes old meanings, why patterns resist change, and what clients report in the “life between lives,” from councils and guides to pre-birth plans and forgiveness. Stories, methods, and resources show how perspective widens and peace grows when identity expands beyond one lifetime.
• subconscious builds beliefs that shape expectations and interpretations
• regression updates meaning to soften emotional reactivity
• past lives and life between lives as therapeutic perspectives
• NDE consistencies and Michael Newton’s case work
• safe transition methods and asking higher self permission
• councils, libraries, and planning rooms as common waypoints
• relationships as chosen roles for growth and forgiveness
• reassurance that you remain on your soul plan
• practical hypnosis setup, depth, and the bridge technique
• resources for deeper study and next steps
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We just made new coffees.
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So between all the water flowinginto the lake and all the warm
rather the rivers opened up.
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This channel right down the middle of our areas all
open water, which always excitesme because that's when the
muskrats come out to play.
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Yeah, the muskrats and the eagles.
The eagles sit on the ice whilethe muskrats go get food and
then they're sort of stealingfrom each other.
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It's a beautiful day there too.
Two degrees.
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It always feels safer when things aren't
freezing.
Wonder what our friends aroundthe world think about that.
There's lots of places.
We're we have some listeners inFinland.
So they're they're laughing atus because you know they're
probably minus 20 every day nowfor the next three months.
And our friends in Singaporeprobably, unless they've been
into Canada, they haven't a cluewhat we're talking about.
(01:25):
Welcome everybody.
Thanks for being here.
SPEAKER_02 (01:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:28):
So we're continuing our our little triplet
regression ideas, goingbackwards, going backwards and
resolving, understanding,putting new meaning on what's
already happened in that linearway of thinking of time, which
isn't probably accurate.
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And there are better ways tothink about time, I believe.
But what it does is the way ourour subconscious mind tracks and
uh you know what's it aggregatesexperience, right?
We have experiences that confirmexperiences, we have new
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experiences that sometimesintroduce new things to our
belief system.
We have all of these experiencescompiling.
Um, and in that process, theythey shape what we anticipate,
right?
They create expectations, and inthat process of our
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expectations, we start to shapewhat comes our way through
interpretation.
We expect certain things, so weinterpret things certain ways,
and then that tends to createmore patterns, more consistency
in our life, and then we findthat sometimes unpleasant, we
find it sometimes veryfrustrating, we find it
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sometimes so incrediblyintolerable that we want change.
We need change.
And because we've been so goodat creating patterns and habits
with our mind, change becomesvery, very hard.
It's hard to see thingsdifferently, and therefore it's
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hard to interpret thingsdifferently, and therefore it's
hard to engage the world with adifferent um tone, a different
intention.
And so people come seehypnotists.
And when they do, we will oftengo back and try to reinterpret
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events that are particularlyproblematic, that cause
problematic emotions, that causeproblematic habitual behaviors,
habitual reactions, and we tryto go back and address those,
realizing that we are reallyhabit-forming machines.
We really love habits.
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It's part of the greatfunctioning of our mind is to
take us from having toconcentrate on things to being
able to do them while using themind for other things.
And that includes, you know,functional things in the day,
but it also includes the way weinterpret and react to our
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reality.
So regression is the tool thatwe go back to change some of
those interpretations becauseoften, and I might be so bold as
to say most of the time, we'reinterpreting what's going on
around us incorrectly becausethe interpretations that we use
are really self-focused.
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What does this mean about me?
What does this mean to me?
What does this mean about how Isee the world?
Because we're having anindividualized experience in
these bodies.
That's the nature of it.
So, with all of that said, veryoften, most of us need to go
back and reconsider most of ourbeliefs and most of the ways we
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interpret the world.
And in doing so, we often createless, well, new new
interpretations lead to newemotions and often less emotion,
and certainly less negativeemotions.
And that's why we talk aboutaccomplishing something called
peace.
And emotions go up, emotionsgoes go down.
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Emotions we like, emotions wedon't like.
And then we find ourselves notbeing so emotional because we're
less likely to interpreteverything as meaning something
about us, somehow attacking us.
And then that peace is once westart experiencing that peace,
it starts to become a goal.
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Yeah, I want that more.
I want more of that.
It's just preferences.
Anyway, so regression is thetool that we use to go back and
reinterpret.
And we can go back andreinterpret things that happened
in our lifetime and go rightback into the womb in our
lifetime.
We can interpret things,reinterpret things from past
lifetimes, because sometimesthat's where we're led in
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therapy.
We're led backwards to wheresomething happened in a previous
lifetime that has left anemotional imprint on us that we
relate to in this life.
And then, you know, sometimeswhen we regress into past
lifetimes and then we comeforward towards the present
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lifetime, and forward's just afigurative statement because we
see time as linear.
We come forward in time, we willoften bounce into the life
between lives, which we'vetalked about a lot, but it's
worth talking about againbecause it too is a form of
regression, because it has inour mind already happened, and
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therefore we consider itsomething of the past.
And so the life between lives isthe place.
Well, with that said, you know,we could talk about Michael
Newton, we can talk about howthis life between lives stuff
got discovered, we could talk alittle bit about NDEs.
These are the the things thatwe've learned about this space,
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and we've also learned how tospecifically regress into what's
referred to as the life betweenlives, or we often call it just
the other side.
And there's a lot to talk aboutthere, as we have in the past,
but let's let's see what comesup today.
SPEAKER_02 (07:36):
We left off yesterday sort of bringing
everybody through differentkinds of past lives, and then up
until the transition time ofthat life in a session.
That's how a hypnotist should bebringing bringing a client
through is important dates inthe life or wherever they're
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meant to go, some healing, someunderstanding, forgiveness work,
lessons, all that stuff.
And then the we we then take theclient into the life between by
going to the last day in thelife and transitioning into the
life between.
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This has looked, I'm gonna talkabout just briefly two ways that
really stand out to me as waysof transitioning that people
have gone through, istransitioning as the person that
you were in that life.
So as a hypnotist, I'm saying,okay, we're gonna go now gently
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to the last day in the life thatyou're experiencing right now,
that you're looking at rightnow.
We're gonna go there gently, bethere now.
What do you notice?
How is that persontransitioning?
Like what are they dying from?
Or is there people around?
Or you also want to make surethat they're not feeling the,
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you know, the the death.
So a lot of times it's looked atmuch like third person
perspective, and then they'lltransition out of the body.
Another way that's come up a lotis becoming.
So say you I have a client andwe're gonna go to the last day
in the life, but there's beensomething that that person has
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been really hanging on to, andthey need help transitioning.
So what ends up happening is theperson, my client, will become
themselves as a guide to receivethe person out of the body.
We hear about many, I think it'sup to, I think it's like 90%,
close to 90% of people seeexperience guides or loved ones
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near their transition time inreal life.
And so it's sort of like that,but you're you're seeing your
guide is yourself, if that makessense.
So you are the guide for theperson that you just experienced
the life of, and you're helpingthem out of the body.
And then after the transitionhappens, you're looking at the
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life, whether you're your guidewith the person or the person
just looking at the life withanother kind of guide or light
around you.
You are then unpacking the lifea little bit, sort of like a
life review in your deathexperiences.
And then you go into the lightand and transition into the
light, and that's where youstart with the life between
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lives portion.
SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
Now I just want to just step in and say, you know,
this seems, you know, as we talkabout it, right, for some
people, there's going to be animmediate sort of dismissal,
like, how how can you know, thatkind of thing.
And I'm gonna answer thatbecause I've had people say to
me before, well, how can youknow?
(11:05):
And my answer to that is thatthe only unscientific thing you
can do is ignore evidence.
And the fact is, is there's beenliterally hundreds of thousands
of people who have hadnear-death experiences where
physically the body dies andit's for a period of time, and
those periods of time will varyfrom three or four minutes to 30
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or 40 minutes, and in somecases, multiple hours, and then
the person comes back.
The body reanimates, and theperson comes back and reports an
experience.
And there's been lots ofscientific approach analysis of
these experiences to show thatthey're very consistent.
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There's there's a ridiculousamount of overlap across
cultures, across religiousbeliefs, that that the
experience itself, thetransition from the body into
the other side, has a path.
It has a process, it has othersinvolved.
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And it's very consistent,really, in terms of people's
experiences when they go throughthat.
So there's a lot of evidencethere, that there's a lot of
information there if you'reinterested in knowing.
And then, you know, I also referto the Michael Newton work.
Michael Newton, yeah, for thosewho haven't heard me say this
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before, a psychiatrist, based onit in New York, I believe, one
day was working.
He was a psychiatrist whobelieved that hypnosis was
therapeutic, that regression wastherapeutic, that if regression
led to a past life, it wastherapeutic.
And he didn't concern himselfwith whether or not it was true.
Was it true?
Did it really happen?
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It doesn't really matter to him.
He was so impressed with thetherapeutic results that he was
open to doing it.
And then one day, quiteliterally, by accident, I mean
he tells this story in his firstbook, Journey of Souls.
By accident, he took a clientinto, well, in therapy, took a
client into a past life and thentook them to the end of that
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past life.
And then, meaning to take theminto this life that they were
experiencing now, he simplyguided them to okay, what
happens next?
Go forward now.
And what happened was they wentinto this life between lives.
They went into the other sidebecause that was what actually
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happened next.
Him thinking that they wentimmediately into a new body, a
new incarnation was erroneous atthe time.
And I'm not aware of anybodyusing hypnosis for this process
before Michael Newton.
And I am aware of literallydozens of prominent hypnotists
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who use it now as a centralfocus of their practice.
It's all they do.
And they continue to write casestudies of people who have gone
through this.
And Hillary and I have beentrained in this, and we've taken
our clients.
I find it to be a natural partof the therapeutic process with
almost all my clients.
There's very few clients I havethat we don't ultimately go to
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the other side, but we can alsodeliberately just go to the
other side.
There's hypnosis techniques todo that.
It's pretty straightforward ifthe person's willing in, and I'm
going to use the word aloud.
I think sometimes oursubconscious mind restricts what
it lets us have access to.
And I think that there's purposebehind that.
The subconscious mind knows alot more than we uh give it
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credit for.
Anyway, so Michael Newton tookthat person into the life
between lives and was sofascinated by what happened,
decided that he wanted toexplore that.
And then he took thousands ofclients into the life between
lives, which was the phrase heused.
And I've shared on this podcastmy experience meeting Jeremy,
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who was, you know, I was deeplyfascinated by a near-death
experience and life betweenlives.
And I happened to get on aplane, and I was just, I was
just so incredibly focused onthis that life brought me the
ability to meet someone who hada near-death experience, who had
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experience of the other side.
And and we had a very wonderfuland for me enlightening
conversation.
And a very it's it's apeace-creating thing to me.
You know, my past life uhregressions uh prior to that
really brought me to a place ofpeace that that my instincts
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that told me, you know, deathwasn't real, we don't end, we
don't begin here, we don't endhere.
Those kinds of instincts in mehad become really, really
activated.
And my past life hypnosisexperience really put that in
perspective.
And because I really resonatedand really felt like I was, you
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know, having memory, notcreation, you know, brought a
real real confidence in my lackof belief and death.
And then, you know, myexperience with life between
lives has given me incredibleconfidence that maybe I
shouldn't take this life so darnseriously.
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It's just one of a whole bunchthat is here for me to have
experience.
And it's not permanent.
It's just quite literally that.
It's an experience.
It's something that I gain from,depending on how I interpret it.
With all of that said, MichaelNewton did this a lot.
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He wrote three books.
So if you're fascinated by thisstuff, I encourage you to spend
some time.
YouTube is filled withnear-death experience accounts.
There are many, many books onnear-death experiences.
There are scientific studies outthere about near-death
experiences.
There is lots written about thelife between lives now.
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Michael Newton's books are agreat place to start, but there
are other people writing.
Robert Schwartz is one whoreally talks about the soul's
plan, and that's where we'resort of headed now with this
conversation.
The idea is that there is apurpose and a plan behind our
lifetimes, that for many people,the regression to this place
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between lives, this existencebetween lives, which Jeremy
tells me, you know, and hiswords were the life on the other
side, that's that's the movie.
These little lifetimes we liveare the commercial.
And he's and that's the way thatthose were the words he used for
me.
That idea that really ourexistence, our beingness is
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really on the other side, andthat these lifetimes are not the
central focus.
They're a tool that we use tomove our soul towards God,
towards love, towards higherawareness.
And Michael Newton talks aboutthat in his books.
So, anyway, so we find that tobe therapeutic sometimes for
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people to just be once they havean awareness that there's a
whole lot more to them than thisbody.
And once they have an awarenessthat they are a mind and they
have levels to this mind andthey have depth to this mind,
then being aware that there'smore to them on the other side
really makes an enormous shiftfor many people about what
they're doing here and howthey're doing it here.
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So, with that said, I want tonow talk to Hillary and let
Hillary talk about what peoplefind when they go.
What's that experience when theygo to the other side?
SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
Yeah, so it the many many people when they come to
me, they they want to go to theother side and they have
compiled a list of questionsthat they'd like to ask their
higher self or guides orwhoever's meant to work with
them that day.
And when they get to the otherside, there's I'll I'll give
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broad I'll give examples becausethere's so there's so many.
There's so many examples, so I'mjust going to try to whittle it
down to the most prevalent ones.
But there's lots of light.
There's a sense of deep peaceand belonging and acceptance.
Love.
But I want to speak for a momentabout the word love.
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We we call it love, but it's somuch more when you're over
there.
It's it's not love in the humansense.
The best way that I can describeit is almost like if you are
connected to every In theuniverse.
And it's connected to you.
And you just feel likeeverything's going to be okay.
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Like no matter what, it's goingto be okay.
And there's this deep connectionand peace.
And so when they're on the otherside, we ask that a guide or
higher self, or again, whoever'smeant to work within that day
steps forward or floats forward.
And that guide can wherever'smeant to be there can look or
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feel like any anything.
It can be a light, it can be a asense.
Oh, I sense somebody is next tome, or a being is next to me.
It can have form, it can havecolor, it can look male or
female or other, you know.
I've had, like I mentionedyesterday, I've had teams of
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non-human beings be there forpeople when they're in the in
the light.
And then we depending on wherethe guide or the higher self
wants to go in that session,that's where we go.
So sometimes it's the library.
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I think in the human humanterms, we call it the Akashic
Records.
We go to fields and meadows anduh cities of light and
crystalline cities.
We go to the council, which issort of looks and feels like
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actually, you know what?
It it's changing.
And I don't know how it'schanging.
I don't know if it's becausemaybe we felt comfortable in the
old style.
Uh, I'm gonna get there in asecond, but like the old style
room that we're taken to in thecouncil, and now it's changing
to be more collaborative.
So I'll explain.
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Not long ago, many people goingto the council would end up in a
sort of like a courtroom-lookingplace with podiums, and you'd be
standing or floating there withyour guide, and guides counsel
would be behind these podiumsthat were up higher.
And now I haven't seen that in along time with clients.
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Now it seems everyone is goingto a boardroom table, and
everybody's sitting around atable, all the guides and
council.
So really interesting how it'ssort of changing.
And it's not me changing it.
I'm not like, okay, now you'regonna see a boardroom table.
It's it's them bringing thatthrough, right?
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We don't we don't say whatyou're gonna see.
So that's been reallyfascinating, that change.
But we go to council, oh mygosh, we we go to pre-birth
planning places where we get asense of, well, why did I sign
up for them?
You know, and we look at ourblueprints, as many people call
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them.
We have others that are in ourlife right now come to us as
souls, as their their spiritself.
Uh maybe in a pre-birth planningsituation, we've got a soul that
we've had a lot of issues with,and we're gonna talk to them and
be like, why did what what arewe learning from each other?
What's going on here?
Why, why did we set up this lifetogether?
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That can be really helpful.
I know I'm missing so manyplaces.
It's because it's so it's sodifferent for everybody,
obviously, but it's so this,it's so much the same.
SPEAKER_00 (23:34):
I mean, that's that's the magic thing about it.
Everybody is going to, when wedo this, so therapeutically, as
a hypnotist, you need a prettygood trance.
You need a pretty deep trance,you need a pretty willing
subject, you need pretty clearexpectations and intentions.
And so when I start a sessionlike this where I know I'm going
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to the other side, I'm verypatient with the induction.
And believe it or not, I don'tlet them lean back very far in
the chair because I want them ina deep trance, but I don't want
to tempt sleep.
SPEAKER_01 (24:08):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:08):
I want them to be in a deep trance, but very engaged
with what they're experiencing.
So that's, you know, that's atechnique that's that requires a
certain amount of hypnoticwherewithal to be able to get
somebody to a place wherethey're deeply, deeply focused,
but not naturally wanting tofall deeper into sleep.
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I get them in a deeper trance.
I try to keep things verynon-concrete, very ethereal.
We deal in light.
We don't we don't go to a placelike we normally would in
hypnosis.
We go into a trance, we try tofree ourselves.
We'll use the space sometimes asa place to hang out.
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The point is that you need adeep trance and you need a very
willing subject and you need aclear attention.
Then when we get there, I quiteliterally ask them to hire ask
their higher self if we'reallowed to go, because not
everybody's allowed to go.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
That's right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:07):
It's not always part of what's best for your
therapeutic journey.
And typically, you know, peoplewho who go who say, Yep, yep, we
can go, uh, it's these arepeople that have spent a lot of
time on their developmentjourney.
People who are generally new toconsidering, boy, oh boy, I've
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got a mind, and my mind is thecenter of everything, they tend
to get the not yet answer.
But when you're in that deeperstate, you can ask those
questions, and your clients, youknow, the you know, Hillary has
something on the board in ouroffice that says, you know, a
first answer, best answer.
We can receive messages if we'rejust allowed them to happen,
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right?
Um, if we listen rather thanthink, right?
And so, you know, these peopleare in a deep state, and I just
say, it's gonna come to you now,it's gonna be a simple yes or
no.
Can we go to the other side?
And then they'll just say yes,and they'll almost be surprised
because they got such a clearanswer.
And then we will we will go.
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I use a simple, simple techniqueall the time, it always works.
Go figure.
I I don't know why, I just use abridge.
We're gonna cross a bridge.
And always when I work withclients, I tend to paint a
location.
I call it the garden.
And there's always a stream, andthe stream always has a bridge,
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and they always wonder whythere's a bridge there until we
finally, in like the fifth orsixth session, cross the bridge,
and we go across the bridge, andquite literally, once they cry
across the middle of the bridge,the other side shows itself very
quickly, and they're they'reoften, you know, show
expressions of surprise on theirface as we go.
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And then we just simply callguides.
Whoever's gonna take us throughthis journey, we call upon them.
It's it's always different.
I don't know who the heck isgonna come for you.
I just know that if you've beentold yes, we can go, and you
cross the bridge and you see thegreat vast blue mist, then
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someone's coming.
Just keep your eyes open andwait.
And someone often groups of I'vehad groups of people, I've had
teams two and three, and I'vehad singular guides arrive.
And at that point, I literally,my technique is to hand it over
to those guides.
SPEAKER_01 (27:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:38):
That point, my technique is okay, meet the
guides, ask them how we canrefer to them, right?
And at this point, I just try tohelp my client have a meaningful
interaction with these guides.
Sometimes these guides have aplan.
No, I shouldn't say that.
They always have a plan.
They always receive with the aplan of what's going to happen
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while you're over there.
They know what's going tohappen.
But sometimes it's very, verydeliberate and they say, come
on, we're going here, and thenwe're going here, and then we're
going here.
And this is how you start todiscover sort of the places that
we all experience on the otherside.
But the guides almost alwaysturn up with an intention.
I try to turn the intention overto them.
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I try to be helpful, right?
And I've literally had it happenwhere the guides have almost
basically said, okay, we'll takeit from here.
And that's cool.
Like I'm happy because we'rethere for the client, right?
And and uh essentiallyconversations will begin.
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And what will happen just fromthe mind being present to the
energies, the powers, thepresence of the other side.
There's such an expansion ofawareness of who you are and
what you are and why you'rehere.
Without having to go into a lotof details, it just really
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changes, I think, in myexperience, who you think you
are.
So from there, the guides takeit from there.
They'll take you off to the sideand they'll have conversations
with you.
You get to ask questions.
Uh, my job now as a hypnotist isyou have questions, ask them
your questions.
And then, you know, uh I say,you know, tell me what you want
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to tell me, so I'll write itdown.
Because if they're telling youthings you want to remember,
tell me, and I'll write it downso that you'll be able to
remember.
Because I do believe you're on avery different vibrational
state.
You know, our vibrational statereally impacts what we do and
don't understand.
Sometimes we've really got totake ourselves to a higher
vibration to understand certainconcepts.
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And the world as a body reallytakes you down.
And so because you're reallydown, sometimes you'll know
things in your highervibrational state that you just
can't access in your lowervibrational state when you're
just being a body trying to getthrough this world.
Anyway, with all of that said,that's when the therapy happens.
Sometimes that therapy willhappen because they're just
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giving messages.
Sometimes that therapy willhappen because people just get
confirmed to themselves thatthey have a purpose, that their
life has value, that thisexperience is meaningful, and
that it's meant to be a bitdifficult.
It's meant not to happen easily.
Sometimes they'll get taken totheir planning, and you can
deliberately go to the planning.
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Some people say they want thisexperience to go back and view
their planning.
Part of my experiences in thisis I was taken back to the place
where I chose my body, which hasbeen a particular issue for me
in this life.
And what was amazing, what wasrevealed to me, was a couple of
things that I recall.
One of the things I recalled isI chose not to be a redhead,
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that there were I had anopportunity to be a redhead, and
I didn't, that I chose this bodybecause it reacts quickly to
changes in the way I treat it.
So I've always experienced in mylife when I when I really
embrace my diet, I lose weightquickly.
I gain weight quickly.
My body really is responsive tothe things that I do.
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And that was part of the reasonwhy I chose the body that I had,
because I guess I thought at thetime that it would help keep me
in line, that I would noticequickly when I was not taking
care of myself, that kind ofthing.
Anyway, sometimes you'll go tothat room, you'll get you'll
talk about choosing your body.
Sometimes you go to the roomwhere you're discussing with the
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people in your life how you'regoing to interact.
And what's I think verytherapeutic for a lot of people
when they go to that part is torealize that the people who are
the most problematic in theirlife are people that they love
and love them very, very much.
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It's it's on the other side,it's the people that we're
closest to that agree to playthese difficult roles.
And we agree to play a difficultrole for them.
And that, you know, I use thatoften.
You know, often when we we areon the other side, it's the
opportunity for forgiveness.
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It's so powerful.
So you'll go to these differentplaces, you go to the council to
check in, you'll go to your bookand see if you're, you know,
what your past lies.
You can actually just sort offlip through and say, Oh, I was
this and I was this and I wasthis, but we don't focus because
remember, it's always about thislife.
We are doing this to help youlive this life, right?
You're allowed access to thisstuff because it helps you be on
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track and move forward whenyou're having difficulty in this
life.
So that's that's a whole bunchof stuff.
And now I'll turn it to you.
SPEAKER_02 (32:51):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm just sort of thinking about what
parts to talk about.
Do you have any questions forme?
Does anybody have any questionsto to jog my brain right now?
SPEAKER_00 (33:02):
What's your personal experience with the other side?
SPEAKER_02 (33:04):
Like my like something I've gone through.
SPEAKER_00 (33:07):
Yeah.
You can talk about what you'vebeen through as a hypnotist
afterwards.
SPEAKER_02 (33:12):
My personal experience with the other side
is sorry.
I'm trying to think of which oneto talk about.
There's been little tiny piecesthat I've that I've had, but I
suppose it's a it's a real senseof being on track, being
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supported through my life,through my decisions,
understanding understanding thatI'm meant to be working with
people.
When I go to the other side,there's a there's a deep sense
of belonging.
What's coming to me now are Isuppose those two little mini
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experiences where well I'llnever know if I actually died,
but certainly feels like it whenI think about them, knowing what
I know now.
When I was 21 and 31, I had twoexperiences where I was early
morning and sleeping.
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And at 21, I ended up goingthrough this magnificent tunnel,
and it was just full of color,and I was like just shooting
through it.
It felt, you know, when I when Ifeel it right now, it feels like
I'm going upward, sort of on anangle, and just these be this
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beautiful choir in thebackground getting louder and
louder and louder, not singinganything specific, just this oh,
like louder and louder andlouder, and then coming back
into my body and waking up.
And then the second experienceat 31 was sort of being laying
down on a beach with waves sortof going over the bottom of my
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legs, and then lifting out of mybody into uh horizontally into
this beautiful light, and thatfeeling, that feeling of
connection and peace and love,that everything was okay.
And I remember so well, uh, thisis 10 years ago now, almost 12
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years ago, or almost 11 yearsago, saying to myself, I'm dying
and I'm okay with that.
I was so okay, it was more thanokay.
And then I thought about you,and I thought, oh, I don't want
to, I don't want to leave him.
So then I slammed back into mybody and jolted up.
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And and I suppose along myjourney with hypnosis and
understanding past lives andlife-betweens, and helping those
that have gone through it, deathand coming back and uh
integrating their spirit withthe body again and helping them
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understand the other side,integrating their experience,
understanding their experience,getting more from their
experience, even.
I think without those twoexperiences, I may not have that
insight, maybe, you know, tohelp.
But yeah, I'm can you think ofanything specific that you want
me to talk about?
SPEAKER_00 (36:27):
Well, now talk about your experience with clients.
You've taken lots of clientsover to the other side.
What could somebody what whywould somebody want to go?
Why do they end up goingsometimes?
Because that's for me, you know,somebody will come into the
office and I'll say, no, no, no,we're we're taking a trip to the
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other side today.
It's just been clearly given tome that that's what we're
supposed to do today.
So just put on your seatbelt,let's go.
And and sometimes it's beenright in the middle of a session
where I thought, oh no, wegotta, we gotta cross the bridge
for a few minutes.
SPEAKER_02 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, clients usually want togo to the other side.
They they've seen me on aninterview or something like
that, and they they they havethis this desire to know if
they're on their plan.
Spoiler alert, you're on yourplan.
There are many, many, uh dare Isay infinite ways of moving
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through your life based onchoices, and you're always
celebrated at the end, right?
So if you think you've messed upor you're not on your plan, you
are on your plan.
Maybe it's a little moredifficult, and so it feels like
you're not on your plan.
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Maybe there's a choice that youmade before you even came here
to Earth, and you feel reallycompelled towards the you feel
really drawn towards that choiceor that light life right now,
and you're maybe notexperiencing it yet, but you at
a soul level know it's there,know it's coming.
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But that can feel reallyconfusing to the human, right?
That can feel like, well, I'mnot on my plan because I I feel
like I should be here.
I feel like, but it's coming,it's coming, right?
You cannot avoid what you've setup for yourself.
How you get there is anotherstory.
I love telling this storybecause it really just shows
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shows us how how much, how manydifferent ways we could be
living our life.
I didn't work with her directly,but this woman, and I feel like
I've told this story recentlyactually, but that's okay.
So this woman was in was on tourin the army, and her her when
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they get in their trucks andthey drive across, they hit a
landmine and she died, but cameback.
But when she died, she was withher, a guide of hers, and they
were going through this.
So she describes it as a roll ofdeck, sort of flipping through
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these ideas of, well, you haveto go back, you're going back,
but how do you want to go back?
Do you want to be blind in oneeye?
Do you want to be missing anarm?
Do you want to be in awheelchair?
Do you want to be right?
And it was almost they werelaughing about it, like, oh my
gosh, wouldn't that be fun?
Wouldn't that be interesting?
Wouldn't that be really a thingto learn, you know, from?
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And anyway, she she comes backand and tells this story.
And it's just fascinatingbecause it just shows how this
is such an illusion.
Yeah.
And I don't know, like I can'teven wrap my mind around it.
I mean, after all the sessionsand and NDEs I've watched and
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people with near-deathexperiences that I've helped.
And I still have a hard timewrapping my mind around like,
well, how does she choosesomething?
And then wouldn't it havealready been decided?
Or I don't know, like how doesthe rest of her life play out?
And how does everybody have thenext what they do and how they
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interact with her all laid outin their mind already?
And is it on different likemaybe she maybe in one dimension
she chose her arm to be missing,in the other dimension she chose
her eye to be blind?
Or I I don't know.
Like it's multiverse.
Yeah, it just can make your headspin.
SPEAKER_00 (40:43):
Yeah, to have fun with that idea, but it's what's
come to me really quickly isthere's a a TV show on Apple
called Dark Matter.
And that's a really coolrepresentation of that.
And of course, go watch DoctorStrange in the multiverse, and
you get a sense of thepossibilities in an artistic
presentation way.
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I'm not saying they are what'sright or that they are what's
wrong.
I'm just saying that theythey're neat ways to evoke some
thought about it.
And maybe you might find thatyou resonate with parts of it,
have a deep sense of that'strue.
That's that's a good, you know,representation of it.
So you might have a really goodexperience doing that.
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Anyway, yeah, it's a form ofregression because it's in the
past, it's a deeper awareness ofwho you really are.
Yeah, when I had one experiencewith guides in hypnosis, they uh
said to me, I was dealing withwhat I thought was like a real
life crisis.
I was going through what Ithought was like a dark night of
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the soul kind of experience.
And I was dealing with sort of aconcept.
But the the point was is thatthe guide says, Well, you
thought it would be fun to sortof face that in this life.
I'm thinking, what could bepossibly fun about this?
And almost insulted, yeah, thatI'm taking myself sort of too
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seriously.
And I think that that's part ofthe value of a life between
lives experience, is that youknow, the it's been said and I
like it, and I try to remindmyself of it, you know,
enlightening to becomeenlightened is to lighten up.
Yeah, you start to see things ina different perspective, you
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interpret them differently.
And that's not to say that thislife is not important, that's
not to say that the that whatyou're going through in this
life is not really important andvaluable and um necessary for
your growth and absolutely anexperience that's really
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challenging.
That's not to dismiss it or tobelittle it because you're doing
it, you're doing it because it'sgonna guide you someplace else,
it's gonna lead you towardsmore, it's gonna lead you to a
greater understanding.
And so, as much as we want to belike what we don't want to be is
frivolous or dismissive.
SPEAKER_02 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's so much we couldtalk about here.
Maybe we need a maybe tomorrowwe extend it.
I wanted to talk about contractsand past life and interlife ways
we we put things aside thatmaybe we're done with, and maybe
talk about more about near-deathexperience or uh near-death
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experiences.
I think people have interest inthat.
It can be a whole week of soul.
SPEAKER_00 (43:43):
And I really encourage you, you know, if any
of this stuff interests you, anyof this stuff triggers you,
reach out, we can send all kindsof resources to you.
And I think that, you know, mypersonal journey through all of
this stuff was veryindividualized.
I it was me reading books, itwas me watching videos, it was
me meditating, it was mediscovering.
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And uh there's lots to bediscovered.
Yes, you can know.
It's absolutely possible toknow, but first you have to
believe that it's possible toknow.
Um, and if you believe that it'snot possible to know, then you
won't.
And that's the barrier.
It's the opening and closing ofyour own mind's doors.
So I really encourage you toreach out if you'd like to reach
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out and check out the resourceswe're talking about, Michael
Newton's book.
You know, what's the guy's name?
Moody?
Is it Richard Moody?
SPEAKER_02 (44:34):
Raymond Moody.
SPEAKER_00 (44:34):
Raymond Moody, thank you.
You know, he wrote a really goodbook, one of the first books on
this stuff.
If you do just a little bit oflooking, you'll find, you know,
if you do a Google search ofscientific study of near-death
experiences, you'll find thatthere's a lot of scientists who
take this stuff really seriouslyand they put a lot of energy
into it.
So there's a lot of informationout there about this stuff.
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And of course, we're here andwe're happy to hypnotize you and
take you to where you need togo.
SPEAKER_02 (45:06):
All right.
In the chat sounds great.
So, yeah, tomorrow we'll we'llextend it and talk about
near-death experiences andcontracts and all that fun
stuff.
Right.
So, have a wonderful day andenjoy your Thursday, and we'll
see you later.
We are on the line.
SPEAKER_00 (00:10):
The right microphone and everything.
SPEAKER_02 (00:12):
Yep.
Yep, the right microphone is on.
Sun is coming up.
Blesses the weather man though,so the coffee is hot.
Yep, the coffee.
We just made new coffees.
SPEAKER_00 (00:24):
And it got warm yesterday.
So between all the water flowinginto the lake and all the warm
rather the rivers opened up.
SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
Oh, has it?
SPEAKER_00 (00:36):
This channel right down the middle of our areas all
open water, which always excitesme because that's when the
muskrats come out to play.
SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
Yeah, the muskrats and the eagles.
The eagles sit on the ice whilethe muskrats go get food and
then they're sort of stealingfrom each other.
Yeah.
It's a beautiful day there too.
Two degrees.
Beautiful.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01):
It always feels safer when things aren't
freezing.
Wonder what our friends aroundthe world think about that.
There's lots of places.
We're we have some listeners inFinland.
So they're they're laughing atus because you know they're
probably minus 20 every day nowfor the next three months.
And our friends in Singaporeprobably, unless they've been
into Canada, they haven't a cluewhat we're talking about.
(01:25):
Welcome everybody.
Thanks for being here.
SPEAKER_02 (01:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:28):
So we're continuing our our little triplet
regression ideas, goingbackwards, going backwards and
resolving, understanding,putting new meaning on what's
already happened in that linearway of thinking of time, which
isn't probably accurate.
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And there are better ways tothink about time, I believe.
But what it does is the way ourour subconscious mind tracks and
uh you know what's it aggregatesexperience, right?
We have experiences that confirmexperiences, we have new
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experiences that sometimesintroduce new things to our
belief system.
We have all of these experiencescompiling.
Um, and in that process, theythey shape what we anticipate,
right?
They create expectations, and inthat process of our
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expectations, we start to shapewhat comes our way through
interpretation.
We expect certain things, so weinterpret things certain ways,
and then that tends to createmore patterns, more consistency
in our life, and then we findthat sometimes unpleasant, we
find it sometimes veryfrustrating, we find it
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sometimes so incrediblyintolerable that we want change.
We need change.
And because we've been so goodat creating patterns and habits
with our mind, change becomesvery, very hard.
It's hard to see thingsdifferently, and therefore it's
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hard to interpret thingsdifferently, and therefore it's
hard to engage the world with adifferent um tone, a different
intention.
And so people come seehypnotists.
And when they do, we will oftengo back and try to reinterpret
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events that are particularlyproblematic, that cause
problematic emotions, that causeproblematic habitual behaviors,
habitual reactions, and we tryto go back and address those,
realizing that we are reallyhabit-forming machines.
We really love habits.
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It's part of the greatfunctioning of our mind is to
take us from having toconcentrate on things to being
able to do them while using themind for other things.
And that includes, you know,functional things in the day,
but it also includes the way weinterpret and react to our
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reality.
So regression is the tool thatwe go back to change some of
those interpretations becauseoften, and I might be so bold as
to say most of the time, we'reinterpreting what's going on
around us incorrectly becausethe interpretations that we use
are really self-focused.
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What does this mean about me?
What does this mean to me?
What does this mean about how Isee the world?
Because we're having anindividualized experience in
these bodies.
That's the nature of it.
So, with all of that said, veryoften, most of us need to go
back and reconsider most of ourbeliefs and most of the ways we
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interpret the world.
And in doing so, we often createless, well, new new
interpretations lead to newemotions and often less emotion,
and certainly less negativeemotions.
And that's why we talk aboutaccomplishing something called
peace.
And emotions go up, emotionsgoes go down.
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Emotions we like, emotions wedon't like.
And then we find ourselves notbeing so emotional because we're
less likely to interpreteverything as meaning something
about us, somehow attacking us.
And then that peace is once westart experiencing that peace,
it starts to become a goal.
(05:46):
Yeah, I want that more.
I want more of that.
It's just preferences.
Anyway, so regression is thetool that we use to go back and
reinterpret.
And we can go back andreinterpret things that happened
in our lifetime and go rightback into the womb in our
lifetime.
We can interpret things,reinterpret things from past
lifetimes, because sometimesthat's where we're led in
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therapy.
We're led backwards to wheresomething happened in a previous
lifetime that has left anemotional imprint on us that we
relate to in this life.
And then, you know, sometimeswhen we regress into past
lifetimes and then we comeforward towards the present
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lifetime, and forward's just afigurative statement because we
see time as linear.
We come forward in time, we willoften bounce into the life
between lives, which we'vetalked about a lot, but it's
worth talking about againbecause it too is a form of
regression, because it has inour mind already happened, and
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therefore we consider itsomething of the past.
And so the life between lives isthe place.
Well, with that said, you know,we could talk about Michael
Newton, we can talk about howthis life between lives stuff
got discovered, we could talk alittle bit about NDEs.
These are the the things thatwe've learned about this space,
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and we've also learned how tospecifically regress into what's
referred to as the life betweenlives, or we often call it just
the other side.
And there's a lot to talk aboutthere, as we have in the past,
but let's let's see what comesup today.
SPEAKER_02 (07:36):
We left off yesterday sort of bringing
everybody through differentkinds of past lives, and then up
until the transition time ofthat life in a session.
That's how a hypnotist should bebringing bringing a client
through is important dates inthe life or wherever they're
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meant to go, some healing, someunderstanding, forgiveness work,
lessons, all that stuff.
And then the we we then take theclient into the life between by
going to the last day in thelife and transitioning into the
life between.
(08:20):
This has looked, I'm gonna talkabout just briefly two ways that
really stand out to me as waysof transitioning that people
have gone through, istransitioning as the person that
you were in that life.
So as a hypnotist, I'm saying,okay, we're gonna go now gently
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to the last day in the life thatyou're experiencing right now,
that you're looking at rightnow.
We're gonna go there gently, bethere now.
What do you notice?
How is that persontransitioning?
Like what are they dying from?
Or is there people around?
Or you also want to make surethat they're not feeling the,
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you know, the the death.
So a lot of times it's looked atmuch like third person
perspective, and then they'lltransition out of the body.
Another way that's come up a lotis becoming.
So say you I have a client andwe're gonna go to the last day
in the life, but there's beensomething that that person has
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been really hanging on to, andthey need help transitioning.
So what ends up happening is theperson, my client, will become
themselves as a guide to receivethe person out of the body.
We hear about many, I think it'sup to, I think it's like 90%,
close to 90% of people seeexperience guides or loved ones
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near their transition time inreal life.
And so it's sort of like that,but you're you're seeing your
guide is yourself, if that makessense.
So you are the guide for theperson that you just experienced
the life of, and you're helpingthem out of the body.
And then after the transitionhappens, you're looking at the
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life, whether you're your guidewith the person or the person
just looking at the life withanother kind of guide or light
around you.
You are then unpacking the lifea little bit, sort of like a
life review in your deathexperiences.
And then you go into the lightand and transition into the
light, and that's where youstart with the life between
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lives portion.
SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
Now I just want to just step in and say, you know,
this seems, you know, as we talkabout it, right, for some
people, there's going to be animmediate sort of dismissal,
like, how how can you know, thatkind of thing.
And I'm gonna answer thatbecause I've had people say to
me before, well, how can youknow?
(11:05):
And my answer to that is thatthe only unscientific thing you
can do is ignore evidence.
And the fact is, is there's beenliterally hundreds of thousands
of people who have hadnear-death experiences where
physically the body dies andit's for a period of time, and
those periods of time will varyfrom three or four minutes to 30
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or 40 minutes, and in somecases, multiple hours, and then
the person comes back.
The body reanimates, and theperson comes back and reports an
experience.
And there's been lots ofscientific approach analysis of
these experiences to show thatthey're very consistent.
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There's there's a ridiculousamount of overlap across
cultures, across religiousbeliefs, that that the
experience itself, thetransition from the body into
the other side, has a path.
It has a process, it has othersinvolved.
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And it's very consistent,really, in terms of people's
experiences when they go throughthat.
So there's a lot of evidencethere, that there's a lot of
information there if you'reinterested in knowing.
And then, you know, I also referto the Michael Newton work.
Michael Newton, yeah, for thosewho haven't heard me say this
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before, a psychiatrist, based onit in New York, I believe, one
day was working.
He was a psychiatrist whobelieved that hypnosis was
therapeutic, that regression wastherapeutic, that if regression
led to a past life, it wastherapeutic.
And he didn't concern himselfwith whether or not it was true.
Was it true?
Did it really happen?
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It doesn't really matter to him.
He was so impressed with thetherapeutic results that he was
open to doing it.
And then one day, quiteliterally, by accident, I mean
he tells this story in his firstbook, Journey of Souls.
By accident, he took a clientinto, well, in therapy, took a
client into a past life and thentook them to the end of that
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past life.
And then, meaning to take theminto this life that they were
experiencing now, he simplyguided them to okay, what
happens next?
Go forward now.
And what happened was they wentinto this life between lives.
They went into the other sidebecause that was what actually
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happened next.
Him thinking that they wentimmediately into a new body, a
new incarnation was erroneous atthe time.
And I'm not aware of anybodyusing hypnosis for this process
before Michael Newton.
And I am aware of literallydozens of prominent hypnotists
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who use it now as a centralfocus of their practice.
It's all they do.
And they continue to write casestudies of people who have gone
through this.
And Hillary and I have beentrained in this, and we've taken
our clients.
I find it to be a natural partof the therapeutic process with
almost all my clients.
There's very few clients I havethat we don't ultimately go to
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the other side, but we can alsodeliberately just go to the
other side.
There's hypnosis techniques todo that.
It's pretty straightforward ifthe person's willing in, and I'm
going to use the word aloud.
I think sometimes oursubconscious mind restricts what
it lets us have access to.
And I think that there's purposebehind that.
The subconscious mind knows alot more than we uh give it
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credit for.
Anyway, so Michael Newton tookthat person into the life
between lives and was sofascinated by what happened,
decided that he wanted toexplore that.
And then he took thousands ofclients into the life between
lives, which was the phrase heused.
And I've shared on this podcastmy experience meeting Jeremy,
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who was, you know, I was deeplyfascinated by a near-death
experience and life betweenlives.
And I happened to get on aplane, and I was just, I was
just so incredibly focused onthis that life brought me the
ability to meet someone who hada near-death experience, who had
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experience of the other side.
And and we had a very wonderfuland for me enlightening
conversation.
And a very it's it's apeace-creating thing to me.
You know, my past life uhregressions uh prior to that
really brought me to a place ofpeace that that my instincts
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that told me, you know, deathwasn't real, we don't end, we
don't begin here, we don't endhere.
Those kinds of instincts in mehad become really, really
activated.
And my past life hypnosisexperience really put that in
perspective.
And because I really resonatedand really felt like I was, you
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know, having memory, notcreation, you know, brought a
real real confidence in my lackof belief and death.
And then, you know, myexperience with life between
lives has given me incredibleconfidence that maybe I
shouldn't take this life so darnseriously.
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It's just one of a whole bunchthat is here for me to have
experience.
And it's not permanent.
It's just quite literally that.
It's an experience.
It's something that I gain from,depending on how I interpret it.
With all of that said, MichaelNewton did this a lot.
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He wrote three books.
So if you're fascinated by thisstuff, I encourage you to spend
some time.
YouTube is filled withnear-death experience accounts.
There are many, many books onnear-death experiences.
There are scientific studies outthere about near-death
experiences.
There is lots written about thelife between lives now.
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Michael Newton's books are agreat place to start, but there
are other people writing.
Robert Schwartz is one whoreally talks about the soul's
plan, and that's where we'resort of headed now with this
conversation.
The idea is that there is apurpose and a plan behind our
lifetimes, that for many people,the regression to this place
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between lives, this existencebetween lives, which Jeremy
tells me, you know, and hiswords were the life on the other
side, that's that's the movie.
These little lifetimes we liveare the commercial.
And he's and that's the way thatthose were the words he used for
me.
That idea that really ourexistence, our beingness is
(18:02):
really on the other side, andthat these lifetimes are not the
central focus.
They're a tool that we use tomove our soul towards God,
towards love, towards higherawareness.
And Michael Newton talks aboutthat in his books.
So, anyway, so we find that tobe therapeutic sometimes for
(18:24):
people to just be once they havean awareness that there's a
whole lot more to them than thisbody.
And once they have an awarenessthat they are a mind and they
have levels to this mind andthey have depth to this mind,
then being aware that there'smore to them on the other side
really makes an enormous shiftfor many people about what
they're doing here and howthey're doing it here.
(18:45):
So, with that said, I want tonow talk to Hillary and let
Hillary talk about what peoplefind when they go.
What's that experience when theygo to the other side?
SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
Yeah, so it the many many people when they come to
me, they they want to go to theother side and they have
compiled a list of questionsthat they'd like to ask their
higher self or guides orwhoever's meant to work with
them that day.
And when they get to the otherside, there's I'll I'll give
(19:23):
broad I'll give examples becausethere's so there's so many.
There's so many examples, so I'mjust going to try to whittle it
down to the most prevalent ones.
But there's lots of light.
There's a sense of deep peaceand belonging and acceptance.
Love.
But I want to speak for a momentabout the word love.
(19:45):
We we call it love, but it's somuch more when you're over
there.
It's it's not love in the humansense.
The best way that I can describeit is almost like if you are
connected to every In theuniverse.
And it's connected to you.
And you just feel likeeverything's going to be okay.
(20:06):
Like no matter what, it's goingto be okay.
And there's this deep connectionand peace.
And so when they're on the otherside, we ask that a guide or
higher self, or again, whoever'smeant to work within that day
steps forward or floats forward.
And that guide can wherever'smeant to be there can look or
(20:28):
feel like any anything.
It can be a light, it can be a asense.
Oh, I sense somebody is next tome, or a being is next to me.
It can have form, it can havecolor, it can look male or
female or other, you know.
I've had, like I mentionedyesterday, I've had teams of
(20:51):
non-human beings be there forpeople when they're in the in
the light.
And then we depending on wherethe guide or the higher self
wants to go in that session,that's where we go.
So sometimes it's the library.
(21:11):
I think in the human humanterms, we call it the Akashic
Records.
We go to fields and meadows anduh cities of light and
crystalline cities.
We go to the council, which issort of looks and feels like
(21:34):
actually, you know what?
It it's changing.
And I don't know how it'schanging.
I don't know if it's becausemaybe we felt comfortable in the
old style.
Uh, I'm gonna get there in asecond, but like the old style
room that we're taken to in thecouncil, and now it's changing
to be more collaborative.
So I'll explain.
(21:55):
Not long ago, many people goingto the council would end up in a
sort of like a courtroom-lookingplace with podiums, and you'd be
standing or floating there withyour guide, and guides counsel
would be behind these podiumsthat were up higher.
And now I haven't seen that in along time with clients.
(22:18):
Now it seems everyone is goingto a boardroom table, and
everybody's sitting around atable, all the guides and
council.
So really interesting how it'ssort of changing.
And it's not me changing it.
I'm not like, okay, now you'regonna see a boardroom table.
It's it's them bringing thatthrough, right?
(22:39):
We don't we don't say whatyou're gonna see.
So that's been reallyfascinating, that change.
But we go to council, oh mygosh, we we go to pre-birth
planning places where we get asense of, well, why did I sign
up for them?
You know, and we look at ourblueprints, as many people call
(23:01):
them.
We have others that are in ourlife right now come to us as
souls, as their their spiritself.
Uh maybe in a pre-birth planningsituation, we've got a soul that
we've had a lot of issues with,and we're gonna talk to them and
be like, why did what what arewe learning from each other?
What's going on here?
Why, why did we set up this lifetogether?
(23:23):
That can be really helpful.
I know I'm missing so manyplaces.
It's because it's so it's sodifferent for everybody,
obviously, but it's so this,it's so much the same.
SPEAKER_00 (23:34):
I mean, that's that's the magic thing about it.
Everybody is going to, when wedo this, so therapeutically, as
a hypnotist, you need a prettygood trance.
You need a pretty deep trance,you need a pretty willing
subject, you need pretty clearexpectations and intentions.
And so when I start a sessionlike this where I know I'm going
(23:56):
to the other side, I'm verypatient with the induction.
And believe it or not, I don'tlet them lean back very far in
the chair because I want them ina deep trance, but I don't want
to tempt sleep.
SPEAKER_01 (24:08):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:08):
I want them to be in a deep trance, but very engaged
with what they're experiencing.
So that's, you know, that's atechnique that's that requires a
certain amount of hypnoticwherewithal to be able to get
somebody to a place wherethey're deeply, deeply focused,
but not naturally wanting tofall deeper into sleep.
(24:30):
I get them in a deeper trance.
I try to keep things verynon-concrete, very ethereal.
We deal in light.
We don't we don't go to a placelike we normally would in
hypnosis.
We go into a trance, we try tofree ourselves.
We'll use the space sometimes asa place to hang out.
(24:52):
The point is that you need adeep trance and you need a very
willing subject and you need aclear attention.
Then when we get there, I quiteliterally ask them to hire ask
their higher self if we'reallowed to go, because not
everybody's allowed to go.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
That's right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:07):
It's not always part of what's best for your
therapeutic journey.
And typically, you know, peoplewho who go who say, Yep, yep, we
can go, uh, it's these arepeople that have spent a lot of
time on their developmentjourney.
People who are generally new toconsidering, boy, oh boy, I've
(25:28):
got a mind, and my mind is thecenter of everything, they tend
to get the not yet answer.
But when you're in that deeperstate, you can ask those
questions, and your clients, youknow, the you know, Hillary has
something on the board in ouroffice that says, you know, a
first answer, best answer.
We can receive messages if we'rejust allowed them to happen,
(25:49):
right?
Um, if we listen rather thanthink, right?
And so, you know, these peopleare in a deep state, and I just
say, it's gonna come to you now,it's gonna be a simple yes or
no.
Can we go to the other side?
And then they'll just say yes,and they'll almost be surprised
because they got such a clearanswer.
And then we will we will go.
(26:12):
I use a simple, simple techniqueall the time, it always works.
Go figure.
I I don't know why, I just use abridge.
We're gonna cross a bridge.
And always when I work withclients, I tend to paint a
location.
I call it the garden.
And there's always a stream, andthe stream always has a bridge,
(26:35):
and they always wonder whythere's a bridge there until we
finally, in like the fifth orsixth session, cross the bridge,
and we go across the bridge, andquite literally, once they cry
across the middle of the bridge,the other side shows itself very
quickly, and they're they'reoften, you know, show
expressions of surprise on theirface as we go.
(26:59):
And then we just simply callguides.
Whoever's gonna take us throughthis journey, we call upon them.
It's it's always different.
I don't know who the heck isgonna come for you.
I just know that if you've beentold yes, we can go, and you
cross the bridge and you see thegreat vast blue mist, then
(27:19):
someone's coming.
Just keep your eyes open andwait.
And someone often groups of I'vehad groups of people, I've had
teams two and three, and I'vehad singular guides arrive.
And at that point, I literally,my technique is to hand it over
to those guides.
SPEAKER_01 (27:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:38):
That point, my technique is okay, meet the
guides, ask them how we canrefer to them, right?
And at this point, I just try tohelp my client have a meaningful
interaction with these guides.
Sometimes these guides have aplan.
No, I shouldn't say that.
They always have a plan.
They always receive with the aplan of what's going to happen
(28:00):
while you're over there.
They know what's going tohappen.
But sometimes it's very, verydeliberate and they say, come
on, we're going here, and thenwe're going here, and then we're
going here.
And this is how you start todiscover sort of the places that
we all experience on the otherside.
But the guides almost alwaysturn up with an intention.
I try to turn the intention overto them.
(28:21):
I try to be helpful, right?
And I've literally had it happenwhere the guides have almost
basically said, okay, we'll takeit from here.
And that's cool.
Like I'm happy because we'rethere for the client, right?
And and uh essentiallyconversations will begin.
(28:44):
And what will happen just fromthe mind being present to the
energies, the powers, thepresence of the other side.
There's such an expansion ofawareness of who you are and
what you are and why you'rehere.
Without having to go into a lotof details, it just really
(29:08):
changes, I think, in myexperience, who you think you
are.
So from there, the guides takeit from there.
They'll take you off to the sideand they'll have conversations
with you.
You get to ask questions.
Uh, my job now as a hypnotist isyou have questions, ask them
your questions.
And then, you know, uh I say,you know, tell me what you want
(29:30):
to tell me, so I'll write itdown.
Because if they're telling youthings you want to remember,
tell me, and I'll write it downso that you'll be able to
remember.
Because I do believe you're on avery different vibrational
state.
You know, our vibrational statereally impacts what we do and
don't understand.
Sometimes we've really got totake ourselves to a higher
vibration to understand certainconcepts.
(29:51):
And the world as a body reallytakes you down.
And so because you're reallydown, sometimes you'll know
things in your highervibrational state that you just
can't access in your lowervibrational state when you're
just being a body trying to getthrough this world.
Anyway, with all of that said,that's when the therapy happens.
Sometimes that therapy willhappen because they're just
(30:14):
giving messages.
Sometimes that therapy willhappen because people just get
confirmed to themselves thatthey have a purpose, that their
life has value, that thisexperience is meaningful, and
that it's meant to be a bitdifficult.
It's meant not to happen easily.
Sometimes they'll get taken totheir planning, and you can
deliberately go to the planning.
(30:34):
Some people say they want thisexperience to go back and view
their planning.
Part of my experiences in thisis I was taken back to the place
where I chose my body, which hasbeen a particular issue for me
in this life.
And what was amazing, what wasrevealed to me, was a couple of
things that I recall.
One of the things I recalled isI chose not to be a redhead,
(30:56):
that there were I had anopportunity to be a redhead, and
I didn't, that I chose this bodybecause it reacts quickly to
changes in the way I treat it.
So I've always experienced in mylife when I when I really
embrace my diet, I lose weightquickly.
I gain weight quickly.
My body really is responsive tothe things that I do.
(31:18):
And that was part of the reasonwhy I chose the body that I had,
because I guess I thought at thetime that it would help keep me
in line, that I would noticequickly when I was not taking
care of myself, that kind ofthing.
Anyway, sometimes you'll go tothat room, you'll get you'll
talk about choosing your body.
Sometimes you go to the roomwhere you're discussing with the
(31:39):
people in your life how you'regoing to interact.
And what's I think verytherapeutic for a lot of people
when they go to that part is torealize that the people who are
the most problematic in theirlife are people that they love
and love them very, very much.
(31:59):
It's it's on the other side,it's the people that we're
closest to that agree to playthese difficult roles.
And we agree to play a difficultrole for them.
And that, you know, I use thatoften.
You know, often when we we areon the other side, it's the
opportunity for forgiveness.
(32:21):
It's so powerful.
So you'll go to these differentplaces, you go to the council to
check in, you'll go to your bookand see if you're, you know,
what your past lies.
You can actually just sort offlip through and say, Oh, I was
this and I was this and I wasthis, but we don't focus because
remember, it's always about thislife.
We are doing this to help youlive this life, right?
You're allowed access to thisstuff because it helps you be on
(32:43):
track and move forward whenyou're having difficulty in this
life.
So that's that's a whole bunchof stuff.
And now I'll turn it to you.
SPEAKER_02 (32:51):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm just sort of thinking about what
parts to talk about.
Do you have any questions forme?
Does anybody have any questionsto to jog my brain right now?
SPEAKER_00 (33:02):
What's your personal experience with the other side?
SPEAKER_02 (33:04):
Like my like something I've gone through.
SPEAKER_00 (33:07):
Yeah.
You can talk about what you'vebeen through as a hypnotist
afterwards.
SPEAKER_02 (33:12):
My personal experience with the other side
is sorry.
I'm trying to think of which oneto talk about.
There's been little tiny piecesthat I've that I've had, but I
suppose it's a it's a real senseof being on track, being
(33:34):
supported through my life,through my decisions,
understanding understanding thatI'm meant to be working with
people.
When I go to the other side,there's a there's a deep sense
of belonging.
What's coming to me now are Isuppose those two little mini
(34:00):
experiences where well I'llnever know if I actually died,
but certainly feels like it whenI think about them, knowing what
I know now.
When I was 21 and 31, I had twoexperiences where I was early
morning and sleeping.
(34:21):
And at 21, I ended up goingthrough this magnificent tunnel,
and it was just full of color,and I was like just shooting
through it.
It felt, you know, when I when Ifeel it right now, it feels like
I'm going upward, sort of on anangle, and just these be this
(34:41):
beautiful choir in thebackground getting louder and
louder and louder, not singinganything specific, just this oh,
like louder and louder andlouder, and then coming back
into my body and waking up.
And then the second experienceat 31 was sort of being laying
down on a beach with waves sortof going over the bottom of my
(35:03):
legs, and then lifting out of mybody into uh horizontally into
this beautiful light, and thatfeeling, that feeling of
connection and peace and love,that everything was okay.
And I remember so well, uh, thisis 10 years ago now, almost 12
(35:24):
years ago, or almost 11 yearsago, saying to myself, I'm dying
and I'm okay with that.
I was so okay, it was more thanokay.
And then I thought about you,and I thought, oh, I don't want
to, I don't want to leave him.
So then I slammed back into mybody and jolted up.
(35:45):
And and I suppose along myjourney with hypnosis and
understanding past lives andlife-betweens, and helping those
that have gone through it, deathand coming back and uh
integrating their spirit withthe body again and helping them
(36:07):
understand the other side,integrating their experience,
understanding their experience,getting more from their
experience, even.
I think without those twoexperiences, I may not have that
insight, maybe, you know, tohelp.
But yeah, I'm can you think ofanything specific that you want
me to talk about?
SPEAKER_00 (36:27):
Well, now talk about your experience with clients.
You've taken lots of clientsover to the other side.
What could somebody what whywould somebody want to go?
Why do they end up goingsometimes?
Because that's for me, you know,somebody will come into the
office and I'll say, no, no, no,we're we're taking a trip to the
(36:49):
other side today.
It's just been clearly given tome that that's what we're
supposed to do today.
So just put on your seatbelt,let's go.
And and sometimes it's beenright in the middle of a session
where I thought, oh no, wegotta, we gotta cross the bridge
for a few minutes.
SPEAKER_02 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, clients usually want togo to the other side.
They they've seen me on aninterview or something like
that, and they they they havethis this desire to know if
they're on their plan.
Spoiler alert, you're on yourplan.
There are many, many, uh dare Isay infinite ways of moving
(37:29):
through your life based onchoices, and you're always
celebrated at the end, right?
So if you think you've messed upor you're not on your plan, you
are on your plan.
Maybe it's a little moredifficult, and so it feels like
you're not on your plan.
(37:49):
Maybe there's a choice that youmade before you even came here
to Earth, and you feel reallycompelled towards the you feel
really drawn towards that choiceor that light life right now,
and you're maybe notexperiencing it yet, but you at
a soul level know it's there,know it's coming.
(38:11):
But that can feel reallyconfusing to the human, right?
That can feel like, well, I'mnot on my plan because I I feel
like I should be here.
I feel like, but it's coming,it's coming, right?
You cannot avoid what you've setup for yourself.
How you get there is anotherstory.
I love telling this storybecause it really just shows
(38:32):
shows us how how much, how manydifferent ways we could be
living our life.
I didn't work with her directly,but this woman, and I feel like
I've told this story recentlyactually, but that's okay.
So this woman was in was on tourin the army, and her her when
(38:54):
they get in their trucks andthey drive across, they hit a
landmine and she died, but cameback.
But when she died, she was withher, a guide of hers, and they
were going through this.
So she describes it as a roll ofdeck, sort of flipping through
(39:17):
these ideas of, well, you haveto go back, you're going back,
but how do you want to go back?
Do you want to be blind in oneeye?
Do you want to be missing anarm?
Do you want to be in awheelchair?
Do you want to be right?
And it was almost they werelaughing about it, like, oh my
gosh, wouldn't that be fun?
Wouldn't that be interesting?
Wouldn't that be really a thingto learn, you know, from?
(39:39):
And anyway, she she comes backand and tells this story.
And it's just fascinatingbecause it just shows how this
is such an illusion.
Yeah.
And I don't know, like I can'teven wrap my mind around it.
I mean, after all the sessionsand and NDEs I've watched and
(40:01):
people with near-deathexperiences that I've helped.
And I still have a hard timewrapping my mind around like,
well, how does she choosesomething?
And then wouldn't it havealready been decided?
Or I don't know, like how doesthe rest of her life play out?
And how does everybody have thenext what they do and how they
(40:22):
interact with her all laid outin their mind already?
And is it on different likemaybe she maybe in one dimension
she chose her arm to be missing,in the other dimension she chose
her eye to be blind?
Or I I don't know.
Like it's multiverse.
Yeah, it just can make your headspin.
SPEAKER_00 (40:43):
Yeah, to have fun with that idea, but it's what's
come to me really quickly isthere's a a TV show on Apple
called Dark Matter.
And that's a really coolrepresentation of that.
And of course, go watch DoctorStrange in the multiverse, and
you get a sense of thepossibilities in an artistic
presentation way.
(41:03):
I'm not saying they are what'sright or that they are what's
wrong.
I'm just saying that theythey're neat ways to evoke some
thought about it.
And maybe you might find thatyou resonate with parts of it,
have a deep sense of that'strue.
That's that's a good, you know,representation of it.
So you might have a really goodexperience doing that.
(41:25):
Anyway, yeah, it's a form ofregression because it's in the
past, it's a deeper awareness ofwho you really are.
Yeah, when I had one experiencewith guides in hypnosis, they uh
said to me, I was dealing withwhat I thought was like a real
life crisis.
I was going through what Ithought was like a dark night of
(41:47):
the soul kind of experience.
And I was dealing with sort of aconcept.
But the the point was is thatthe guide says, Well, you
thought it would be fun to sortof face that in this life.
I'm thinking, what could bepossibly fun about this?
And almost insulted, yeah, thatI'm taking myself sort of too
(42:12):
seriously.
And I think that that's part ofthe value of a life between
lives experience, is that youknow, the it's been said and I
like it, and I try to remindmyself of it, you know,
enlightening to becomeenlightened is to lighten up.
Yeah, you start to see things ina different perspective, you
(42:34):
interpret them differently.
And that's not to say that thislife is not important, that's
not to say that the that whatyou're going through in this
life is not really important andvaluable and um necessary for
your growth and absolutely anexperience that's really
(42:54):
challenging.
That's not to dismiss it or tobelittle it because you're doing
it, you're doing it because it'sgonna guide you someplace else,
it's gonna lead you towardsmore, it's gonna lead you to a
greater understanding.
And so, as much as we want to belike what we don't want to be is
frivolous or dismissive.
SPEAKER_02 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's so much we couldtalk about here.
Maybe we need a maybe tomorrowwe extend it.
I wanted to talk about contractsand past life and interlife ways
we we put things aside thatmaybe we're done with, and maybe
talk about more about near-deathexperience or uh near-death
(43:38):
experiences.
I think people have interest inthat.
It can be a whole week of soul.
SPEAKER_00 (43:43):
And I really encourage you, you know, if any
of this stuff interests you, anyof this stuff triggers you,
reach out, we can send all kindsof resources to you.
And I think that, you know, mypersonal journey through all of
this stuff was veryindividualized.
I it was me reading books, itwas me watching videos, it was
me meditating, it was mediscovering.
(44:06):
And uh there's lots to bediscovered.
Yes, you can know.
It's absolutely possible toknow, but first you have to
believe that it's possible toknow.
Um, and if you believe that it'snot possible to know, then you
won't.
And that's the barrier.
It's the opening and closing ofyour own mind's doors.
So I really encourage you toreach out if you'd like to reach
(44:27):
out and check out the resourceswe're talking about, Michael
Newton's book.
You know, what's the guy's name?
Moody?
Is it Richard Moody?
SPEAKER_02 (44:34):
Raymond Moody.
SPEAKER_00 (44:34):
Raymond Moody, thank you.
You know, he wrote a really goodbook, one of the first books on
this stuff.
If you do just a little bit oflooking, you'll find, you know,
if you do a Google search ofscientific study of near-death
experiences, you'll find thatthere's a lot of scientists who
take this stuff really seriouslyand they put a lot of energy
into it.
So there's a lot of informationout there about this stuff.
(44:57):
And of course, we're here andwe're happy to hypnotize you and
take you to where you need togo.
SPEAKER_02 (45:06):
All right.
In the chat sounds great.
So, yeah, tomorrow we'll we'llextend it and talk about
near-death experiences andcontracts and all that fun
stuff.
Right.
So, have a wonderful day andenjoy your Thursday, and we'll
see you later.
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