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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Command Center Podcast Live. Thank you so
much for coming out tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Obviously, PC did a great job with the intro.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
But I'm Logan, Paulson, Santana Moss, Bredd Smoot. We're so
blessed to have you guys here with the fans tonight.
Thank you for driving it from Carolina.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Right to pause, man, long drops from Carolina.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Man, that's fantastic, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
We also have the command for us here right in
the back. Yeah no, I'm sure they love to take pictures.
Say hi, everybody, make sure you touch in major Tuddies
here right looking really jacked.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
He's dropping, way, he's dropping.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Way. We see you, Toddy.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
So we got a really special show for you tonight.
We're gonna go around the room.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Right, We're gonna talk about every position group, where we
think they're at, what we think about this upcoming season,
how the offseason was for each group. Then we're gonna
do hell yeah or hell no. Man, that's a fan
favorite segment. If you watch the show, everyone familiar with
that segment. Yeah, oh come on, hell yeah, hell no.
And then we got RFK we're gonna talk about RFK
most DAP. You got excited for our here, I say,

(01:01):
you gotta hell yeah, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Okay? And then Fred, you have something going on?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I always got something going on. We got to get live.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Podcast is gonna be live in May twenty ninth at
the Admiral.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
We got another live show.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
So I expect all of y'all to come back, even
y'all from Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Come on back to the Admiral, right there.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
You don't need to see that show though.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, you do get loud. Now we're gonna get loud.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, so that's you, James, Yeah, me and are you.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Hear my producing over there? That's all live?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Tell you got anything going on?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I ain't got nothing going on? All right now, I'm
here up.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
We're doing this, all right, So let's go around the room,
around the locker room. Let's go. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Fred's favorite position, and that's the defensive backs, right.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Best players in the room, But what best players on
the team.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
All right, let's just be there us a while. The
position of defensive back.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
We have the hardest job in football besides the quarterback.
We have to do with the best athletes in the world,
the top one percent going forward, we have to do
going backwards with the whole world against you. I an
era everywhere.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah, I'm just saying defensive backs say I can say
one of the toughest positions on a field. I told
y'all played I grew up playing defensive back, and that's
one of my reasons of That's one of them that
I say.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Man, you know what I like.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
I like to hear the fans cheering for me and
not booing me for getting beat deep, y know, pray
you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, listen, it's a hard job. That's why y'all gonna
ask the question. The first question gonna come at your mouth.
It's about Marshawn ladim one, right, because y'all feel like
he left a bad taste in your mouth. But if
I told you in the middle of the year, somebody
moved your job to a new team with new plays
and new teammates, new locker room, new house, new everything,

(02:46):
it takes a little adjustment period.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
We're gonna get.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
The best Marshawn Lattimore this year.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I don't think you even have to worry about it.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
I think you will, and I don't think you even
have to, you know, go that far with explain that
to them, because you just stated it's one of the
toughest jobs on the field. But also that's why you
guys get paid the big bucks. You know, I talk
about the time and time again bucks.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, they got me. I always talked about with Fred.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
We're just watching him, you know in games, might give
up a catch, might not, but it was always the
same energy, you.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
See what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
So it's a tough job.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
So just looking back at Lattimore coming in, you know,
he had the injury when he first got here, he
dealt with it, got back, you know, speed of recovery.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Got nicked a little bit again.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
And so to me, that's behind the eight ball twice
in your new home. That's the first thing we say
we don't want to do when we go somewhere new.
We want to get there and make sure we show
them what are worth is, you know. So I'm looking
forward to just seeing the guy because I think you
have a guy. What he's only twenty nine years old, what,
four time Pro Bowl, Yes, and he's on the defense

(03:54):
that he now gets to learn this whole entire offense.
I mean this off season, and I think Joe Junior
man what he's shown last year, just with that defense,
with those guys in the secondary, he know how to
put him in a right position for them to be successful.
So I can't wait to see this Marshawn Adam off
this year because I know he's gonna be ready to go.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I think he's gonna get back to for him too,
So there's no reason to be concerned.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't think there's no reason to be concerned.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
There was so many variables and why people feel like
and then as a corner, he Fred tell me.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
This, how hard is it to learn a new defense
for a defensive back? Because you went from obviously Washington,
you went to Minnesota. How was that transition for you
going from a predominantly man scheme to to.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
It's hard for you because now you have to you
got to change your train of thought. And also it
ain't really like our teams play cover one. Our teams
play cover four, Cover two, some form of cover all three.
But I need to learn the defensive coordinator. I need
to know what he liked to call in crunch time.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
How he does it right?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, I need to learn his style. I need to
learn what he wants me to do on third and loans.
I need to know do he like to bring the
pressure on third and short? Do he like me to
play press?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Man?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I was man like, what can I do inside of
his defense?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
It takes it takes quarters to learn that.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, and then Tanne, you talked to you.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I mean you talked about your injury earlier in your
career all the time, talk about navigating that coming back
and again because Marshawn's kind of going through something similar, right, Yeah,
new environment, that's what you did coming out of Miami
going to the Jets, Like, what was that like? And
how do you think Marshawn's handling that now?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
So for one thing, being a pro, you get a
chance to learn how to be a pro, and that's
one of them, you know. I think I learned it
out the gate as a young pup. I got into
New York first round drift pick and out the gate.
Within the fifth or six practice, I tear my knee.
And I never had that kind of an injury even
coming into the league, So I didn't know what to expect.

(05:43):
I didn't know how to treat myself know how I
had to get myself back on the field. You look
at a guy like Lon Shawn, I mean, Marshawn Lottimore. Yeah,
he's a professional, he'd been here, done that. But I
think one of the things that we failed to realize
is him getting traded to us. He don't have the
same people to care for his body that he where

(06:03):
he came from. So you have to get accustomed to
the area and knowing who's the chipractice, who the massus.
You know, who's all these doctors to all these special
people that you had in your life in New Orleans
that you're gonna go now have to navigate and get here,
So that's.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
What I say, and beild trust with those people.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
So I think over time you get a chance to
see that and you get a chance to get familiar
with those folks. I got here in O five when
I got traded, and immediately I had guys like Sean
Springs that told me.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Hey, try my guy.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I tried this guy one night and knew I was hooked,
and so from there it was a matchmade in heaven.
He took care of me for the rest of my
teen years here. So I think It's all he has
to do is get accustomed to the area, know who's who,
and then once he finds out that man, he's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Off and running.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Obviously, you know, Marshawn is like the veteran. He kind
of feels like a little bit of a lynchpin for
the group. But I can't remember covering a team or
playing for a team that had so many talented young
defensive players, right, Mike Sanders, So you got Tremos, you
got Kawan Martin, Right, I think we forget about him
playing safety.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
How good of a year he had last year?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, I don't know, man, that's again everyone gets excited
about Marshawn lantmore. I get really excited for what those
guys did last year.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Most definitely like you got a growing group.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
You got one guy, Mikey sender Steel, who I thought
he really picked up where he left off their college.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean just, I mean honestly, like totally subverted expectation.
Everyon thought he's gonna play nickel nor outside.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Where do you need me to play it? That's what
Mikey Sandra's still gonna do. Do you need me to tackle?
That's what Michael Sander's still gonna do you need me
to cover the best received on somebody team. That's what
he's capable of doing. And he hasn't even peaked yet.
That's the scary thing about Michael Sander Steel. We haven't
seen his best hit. His best is yet to come.
And I think all of these guys best is yet
to come because we as good as they.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Were last year.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I know people won't talk about the defense being up
and down. It was their first year in Coach WIT's defense, Like,
so whatever they learned last year, now the learning is
almost through. Now they're just gonna play, and they're gonna
play fast, and we're gonna give a guy like Trey
Amis he you draft somebody highlight.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
That usually they forced to play right off the back.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
He won't be forced to just get through in that
fire like that play right away.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I think he will.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
But what I'm saying is when when three cornerbacks is
out there, of course he'll be out there, but he
won't be part of the first two. All I'm saying
is they won't lean on him like they wheel o
the second rounders on here. Think about Will Johnson going
to the Cardinals, he automatically their number one corner, Like
he don't have to worry about trying to come take
a number one out when we got Latimer and Sandwich
Steel to do that.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Speaking of Santa Still, and you know, we talked about
this a little briefly when we mentioned Jayden name.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
He's gonna be coming into his sophomore season two.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
What would be something that Joe Witt and his defensive
schemes be able to do to set it up to
make sure that we're not worrying about him having one
of those those down years coming into the second year
of his professional career.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, I think he just gonna.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Look at way, did you ever software something?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
No? Actually that's interception.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
So you played, So what did you do? What did
you do?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Not? The one thing that what Sam's still gonna have
over with me is he gonna be playing in the
same defense. I changed defense. I heard coach change, our
defensive coordinator change. He's gonna have a vantage to to
pick up where they left off last year.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
He's only gonna put the icing on the cake.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Now the foundation is there, and what they're gonna do
is he's gonna coach, We're gonna take all his good
plays and all his bad plays, and he's gonna try
his best. Never put him into those bad situations again.
If not put him in those situations, teach him how
to navigate those situations and get better.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
So the thing I'm thinking about, Senna say, you know,
just coming into this second year, what I'm more impressed
with just how much we got better around him. Yeah,
you see what I'm saying up front defensively, You know,
we talked about this all the time again, and people
fail to realize, like, as a cornerback, you're not solely
necessarily have to worry about this. Being a guy that's covering.

(09:54):
You want to make sure the guy's up front, it's
getting out of that quarterback. Yeah, they won't be covering
so long. So when you getting better defensively.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Up front, yeah, you're getting better in the.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Back, getting out to the quarterback, being able to stop
the run. That makes those guys in the secondary that
much better too. So I'm looking forward just to see
some of those new guys that we have come in.
How much do they contribute to our success in the
secondary By getting out to the quarterback, the rush in
the coverage has to be married.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Go ahead, they have to be married.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Like in order for them to get sex, we gotta
cover in order for us to get picked. They got
to make sure the quarterback is uncomfortable. Comfortable quarterbacks complete passes,
Uncomfortable quarterbacks make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, let's talk about the defensive line real quick, because again,
I think we're all excited about the young players in
the secondary. I'm excited to see what Trey Amos says.
Mikey Sanders still like he had such a special rookie year,
Marinder raiding, and I love that you guys run up
the defensive line because I think people look at the
free agent acquisitions and are kind of like, there's nobody
there that gets you really excited. Right, there's no elite
edge rusher, there's nobody. There's no von Miller, there's no

(10:54):
name in that group. But Fred, you said something when
you were kind of ranting over there, talking like you
talk right like that. I think the summer the parts
for this defensive line is better. I think they're gonna
be better on first and second down, and I think
that's gonna make them better on third down because they've
got to deal with third long situations, which is gonna
help the secondary buck.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Let's talk about some of those guys.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, and maybe the lack of sack production on paper
and where you think they're gonna end up.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, I just watched the Philadelphia Eagles Nemesis go win
the Super Bowl. They had nobody over seven to eight six, right,
So they rushed as a group. And when you rush
as a group, that means you're gonna win as a group. Alright,
So this is what it is. Everybody wants to talk
about edge, edge, edge, name me the last edge besides
Von Miller, A Lawrence Taylor.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Dude, you're freaking out. This is this is a whack no, no,
you know.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
This is I feel like the shortest way to the
quarterback is through the interior. Chris Chones his interior dominator.
They got Big Carter at Philadelphia. He's interior dominator. If
you push the pocket from the interior, quarterbacks get off
of they.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Mark and they start to make plays.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
And that's why I say, everybody want to talk about
the head, stop talking about it.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
So you don't you don't wan to talk about Miles Garrett,
You don want to talk about tr hendersonout.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Garrett won a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
He's not a bad football team.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
T J Watt has t J Watt won a playoff
game playoff one. Yeah, so all the best edges in
the NFL are not winning playoff games.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
So I take the interior.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
So coming into this, coming into this what ota period
right now, and knowing that it's still some defensive ends
out there that we could potentially go out there, do
you feel like it's best that we sit where we
at because we have enough.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Guys out there, and we have guys.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
That's young that hasn't really you know what I mean,
got the or do you think we should go out there?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
And you know, you know, you know how you said.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
You didn't go out to them, right, Yeah, you had
to roll the dice sometimes.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
But this is what I'm saying. How you know Geen
Beptist ain't took another step?

Speaker 5 (12:52):
You know, like this would always tell people, we get
so excited about this year's dram that you forget about
last year's dreim Like some those guys are still maturing.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Luke McCaffrey still maturing.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
You don't know, he might take a big step next year,
like being seen it might take a big step next year.
So sometimes you go out looking for stuff when it's
right in your house. That's that's what my ex wife
told me, and that how she became my ex wife.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Listen, that.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Pressure right sack production. One thing that sticks out to
me is if you can get it an aggregate right
like Dietrich White has five sacks, Yes, stellen Hall has
three sacks, doth Frank Yeah, you're gonna be doing all right.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
So I think that's what I look at.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Then you can't zero in on where the pressure is
coming from. It allows my defensive coordinator to dial up
more exided Listen, Like, one thing I think we can
get ready to see is Frankie louv past rushing more.
I think Frankie louver is gonna take on up a
Michael Parses type style in this defense.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I look for him to have.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
His hand coming off their edge more than he did
last year.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
One of the things too that stood out to me
last year, you know, we was you know how you
see certain teams have that one guy that has all
the sacks. I love the fact that we had so
many guys that contributed in that area, you know what
I mean. That came in especially in one of the
guys that we're gonna miss who went back to the
Cowboys up I don't want to say his name no
more because he's not on our team. I mean, we're

(14:27):
gonna miss him, but that just opened that door for
other guys to step in and fill that void.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
And I think the one thing about Filer though, for
as much as he gave us with the pass rush,
he lecked in the run support.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
See, this is what we're talking about on first down.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
If we can make first down be a short down,
now we ain't gonna get the third and short. Our
problem last year with people was getting five yards on
first down. Now we have to play safe on second down.
Now they at thirty one. Now with these big boys
up front, that allows us to get into third and
loan and this is when we go make plays.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, And I think about that, like, even if you're
not a good pass rushing group, just statistically, if you
get into more third longs, you have more pure pass
rushing opportunities than you have more puer coverage opportunities to
get the ball turned over. So even even bad pass rushers,
when you know it's a passing down, you can rush
way more efficient. That's something I think people sleep on
quite a bit, so again, I think I'm probably more

(15:18):
bullish on that group than a lot of people. And
we haven't even talked about the interior players yet. Playing
Jason Newton, Ken Laws the addition there that JEW group
feels like it's got some juice. What's the expectation for
the defensive tackles in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well, I think it's biggest spec tation because I think
they want to wake paying back up.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I think you need paying a hell one of those.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Years he had two years and not that he had
a bad years, a great run.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We're talking about the past.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
The pass Russ because I told you this where me
is a corner with really had my pass was doing.
And when you got Jason Newton and these guys, and
one thing I do like about those three is they
all bring some different type of game to the to
the game, but they all got one thing to come
and this mean they mean and they y'all physical, and
that's what you want when you talk about interior.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
I think one of the main things that I care
about more than anything is just seeing us better as
a team as a unit, stopping to run. I care
less about individual how much success pain on one of
those other guys may have, but collectively, I want to
see those guys playing together like they should.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And I think that what brings our defense to be.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Back to the level where they played a couple years
ago stopping the run and not so much because think
about it last year, having a season that we had
and we didn't stop the run. Good, Just imagine if
we did. You see what I'm saying. So that's probably
going to that game that we wish that we went
to last year.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Just by doing that one thing better and think about
this town. What's the best weapon to stop Jane Dallions.
It ain't your defense, it's your running game. If your
running game can put together. If you could come out
of running a game and you ran about thirty five times,
they probably mean you ran it thirty five times because
you had success that shortened the game. One two, that

(16:58):
made JD five the game so prior already Number one
on defense should always be stop the run.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, And I think another element of this is obviously
the second level of that defense with the linebackers, you know,
Bobby Wagner, Franky Luvu. There's a lot of depth there.
Jordan McGee. You know, obviously just Sean Kate Madronod from
UCLA draft pick. But I look at that group and
I don't know. That feels like the the spine of
the d like the heart and soul of the defense,
you know what I'm saying. So for me, like obviously,
defensive back is extremely exciting, defensive line is very solid.

(17:28):
But when the heart beats in the middle of your
defense and you gotta like gotta guy like Bobby Wagner
at the helm, I just feel like he can cover
up a lot of ales for you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, something about that man, Like when you have
a guy like Bobby Wagner, we don't we don't speak
enough about this guy man. Yeah, you know, and and
be just said something about it a little earlier.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
You know.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
The older the guys get, the less we talk about him.
But he's out there still being productive. He's the reason
why he go. I love the fact that whoever the
guy is behind him, just wait until he steps on
a field to have to really go out there and
be that guy.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Because he's getting the best.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Coach, last tutor, mentor mentor whatever you want to call it.
That anybody can pay for when it comes to a
guy like Bobby Wagner, just seeing the things that he's
done in one year, it just bring me back those
memories of us playing with London, because you know, I
always tell y'all the stories about watching London from one
side of the locker room and just seeing how serious

(18:24):
he was about the game, watching this intensity on the field.
That's the same thing I get from Bobby and watching
him from where we sit at now, just seeing how
he goes.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
About his business.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Quiet guy, soft spoken, but go out there and he's swapping.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Paint, you know, yeah, I mean tenn to hearing you
talk about him like, is he I know he's gonna
be a Hall of Fame player?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Is he underrated here in d C Frod.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
You just said that people don't respect old people.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't respect you, do respect for you.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
We don't respect our senior citizens when we should be
showing them to voters the way. I'm forty six and
I got Benjamin Budd's disease, so I'm getting don't lie
for that.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Don't lie for that.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
All I'm saying is when you got somebody that made
it to that point the locker room out of matter,
his respect, Like you don't have to say nothing out
of your mouth. We understand how you get this many yards,
I mean, this many years at this high level of football,
nothing but respect. But I tell you who, I love
this guy intensity. All I could think about him jumping
over the whole city of Philadelphia, and that's Frankie Louvu.

(19:32):
I'm telling you right now. I love the energy. He's
a Tasmanian devil. He comes out there to play one physical, two.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
He played team defense. Three.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I wish I could play with him, Like I really
think if anybody on this team I wish I could
have played, it is Frankie Louvu. And I really do
think they're gonna add him to the past rush more
this year, and I think that's really gonna unlock him.
I know he had a Pro Bowl year this year.
I think he might even have a better year next year. Yeah,
he's one of those guys.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
He brings the intensity and I couldn't imagine us going
forward without a guy like that, without that intensity, without
that energy. You know, I saw him last year a
game or two coming out and I was I questioned, like, damn,
is he ready to go? And then boom he gets
on that field, he's a different dude. He's actually that
spark plug for that defense. I know we talked about
just those linebackers as a whole as a unit, but

(20:25):
when you have a wagoner in the middle and you
have that spark plug and Frankie Luvu, you know that
you can just move him around like Michael Parson is man.
He definitely brings a different kind of gear than everybody
else and get everybody going. So yeah, he's a special
pusher kind of player.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I know, those guys get a lot of headlines, right, Yeah,
you know Frankie Luvu. I mean it's one of the
most likeable, notable freege and signings from last year. Bobby
wagnerse future all the flame right talking about guys that
have the heartbeat of this team in my opinion, or
the offensive lineman right the backbone of the team.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Boys, So when we're talking about offensive lineman, you talk
about wild boars. We talked about the halls, all that stuff.
We got a really special guy coming in to talk
about it with us. That's he's the most Jack mascot
in the NFL. I really appreciate him coming out.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
To look baby in y'lse he's leaning in. Last year,
we didn't. We didn't hit him with that O zimpy.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
We didn't. We didn't hit him with that O zippy.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So hey, so tuddy, what are we thinking about with
the offensive line?

Speaker 3 (21:24):
What's your what's your best sake? You excited for it?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Now? You know you a mascot. He can't talk, so
I'm interpreted for you.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
No, you know what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
He was talking about how excited he was about Larmie
Tunsel coming out here. Now he's excited about a first
round picking Josh car If I'm a mascot, that's what
a log. Yeah, that's what I'm excited about. The question
is he's he gonna turn into a wild boy. See,
one thing about a hog is domesticated. Like when you
let it matter and they get wild, it become wild board.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
That's what I'm naming this new group. They a wild boards.
You gotta realize we got a Pro Bowl left tackle.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Moving Cole into guard. He could easily be a Pro
Bowl guard.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
We got a Pro Bowl center and be hotish right
when Sam Cosmy coming back. We had a Pro Bowl
right guard.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
So all I'm telling y'all right now, is you should
feel good about the protection for JD five.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Are Are they the most upgraded position this offseason for this?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I think so, Yes, I think so.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
I think if you look back a couple of years ago,
probably before this regime came in, that's what we questioned
the most about our office of line, getting back to
when we had a couple of those pro bowlers and
Trend and the other couple of guys that we got,
you know, and I think one of the guys was
who had just left us, went to New Orleans. What
his name was? Was it Omstead not Armstead. I'm gonna

(22:42):
think of it again, But remember we were just having
that conversation about just our office a line and where
it used to be, you know, having a couple of
guys here and there. So looking at it now today, man, hey,
that's that's how you get better. I mean, when you
have a when you have uh, I guess you could
say our most valuable asset in our court for the
back being who he is.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
And JD five.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
You want to see those guys get better up front.
You want to see those guys be able to bring
in better guys to be able to go out.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
There and handle that.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Load for you.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Tell me who your swing tackle is and your swing guard,
and I tell you, do you got a good offensive line?
And right now Ala Griddy, people like that, all being
slided in their position, they could start for a lot
of teams.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
So Tuddy is, could this be the best group in
the NFL? Yeah, thumbs up from the mascot. Huh And
I kind of think so too, maybe.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Right, Tuddy say, Man, don't even ask me that question.
You know, sometime I wish you was a Messcot, So.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
I think and to do this land, Yeah, I mean
I think obviously, like I think with coaches like Bobby Johnson, Man,
Bobby Johnson, what they did last year with that group.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I think what Cliff has shown his ability to do
in terms of insulating the offensive line. And then you
get more talented, and I think about what this can be. Man,
how you can isolate Laramie Tons.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
On the island and now you don't have to keep
that tight end in now you it allows you to
really I think it's gonna allow him to really call
his place. I think Cliff is really gonna get in
his bag right now, because it's sometime last year it
seemed like he was handcuffed a little bit because he
had to like help him protection, he had to do
anything when we played some top.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
K off edge Russia.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Since this where all the pressure come from, like we
still had to do certain things. This year, we might
not have to do anything. We got guy that can
hold up on their own end as a group.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I'm here to say thanks to Toddy for coming out,
Thanks for talking about the offensive line.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, big round of applause, best mascot in the NFL. Yeah,
thanks for coming out.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Man, appreciate tipic work.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
All right, let's talk about tight ends. You were just
talking about light tight ends.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
And so for me, this is a position near and
dear to my heart obviously. What the city is zach Ertz, Yeah,
Hall of fame career.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
He put it like this. He he's on the boulevard.
He got the card fifth gear.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, if he finishes strong, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Like maybe if he can squeeze out twelve hundred two
fifteen hundred more yards to add.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
To his eight thousand.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So is he gonna get to ten thousand?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
He think?

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah? He got he got like eighty three thousand right now,
I mean eight thousand, three hundred yea, all right, So
I think if he can squeeze get that close to
ten thousand, I don't think you can stop him.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
I think just looking at what he did in the
back end of last season shows you how special he was.
I believe I read something where he had like in
the playoffs alone or the last few games and the playoffs,
he was it was twenty four targets. He was twenty
four for twenty four like he was clutched when we
need him to be clutched. So I think, but that's
going to allow him to be able to do that

(25:48):
because of the guys that we have and also the quarterback,
you know what I mean. In on I don't see him.
I don't see him doing nothing different from what he
showed last year, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, and he one of those guys he was never
judged by his So when you not judge by your speed,
it took us a long time to know when you
actually getting slower, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Separation.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, he's still separated, especially at the point of a tech. Yeah,
at the top of a route. I don't know about it.
That's better at getting in and out his cut and
create separation.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And again the tennis point, like he had sixty six
catches last year.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, thirty nine of those were for first downs.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
So talk about just the guy who's got the ability
to keep the offense onto the field, to be a
security boget to the quarterback. Again, like you were talking
about this Fred, his ability to read coverages, dissect coverages,
break coverages, break leverages, getting out of cuts. Yeah, it's fantastic.
And I think about, you know, like in terms of
what this offense, I think I get worried about. It's
just him being healthy. Man, he's an older guys. In

(26:43):
your thirteen shot us.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Last year, you know, we didn't think he was gonna
play in almost every game.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think he played in every game.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Well well, well you gotta give a little credit to
Dan because he talked about how Dan give a lot
of those guys over those vet days. So I mean,
when you have a coach that understands who his veterans
are and who who need those who need those special days,
it's great to play for him, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
So obviously we feel fantastic about zach Ertz. I also
feel fantastic about John Bates. I mean, talk about a
guy you can just set your watch by. Yeah, like
he's gonna do the dirty work. He's gonna kind of
get after those six We.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Was waiting for him to come around too, And.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think to think about him, is there's more in
the tank from a pass catching standpoint. Yeah, especially with
the matchups he's gonna draw. He's such a good blocker.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
You can't. You gotta. You gotta stay in base defense.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
And that's why I call it bas motel because people.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Go in, but they don't come out. That's all I'm saying.
So don't you train base every now and then?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
No, No, you have talked to him.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I love to talk to him.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
No, because I only asked that question because I'm I
remember just I always talk about you, how I looked
at you when we played together, And it's just funny
to me that I've seen you share some sentiments, you know,
sometime with him, and to me, he reminded me of you.
He reminded me of a guy like yourself. When bro,
I tell you, no, lie, anytime I had like a
slip screen or something, specially where I needed a block

(27:57):
or two, He's always in my tape showing up blocking
somebody down field.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
So Logan did a great job.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
At least being that guy.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Don't do it till friend, shut up.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Man, It's alright, you can do it.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I can take it.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
I know, thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
You know what.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
A lot of guys ain't got that.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
So no, no, I appreciate that to and again that's
what Bates does, right, And so I think we feel
really good about the top two. The other guy that
you know, I worn't number eighty two. Keep an eye
a two on the roster now, Ben Sinnett.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, what what's.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
The expectation for him, man, because I think it was
a little bit I don't know, maybe disappointing last year.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
I wouldn't say disappointed. I think the guys in front
of him play so well. It wasn't but a couple
of reps.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
To give him.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
We just said, Base is one of these best, if
not the best blocking tight end in football.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
You're gonna take his rips on run downs, You're not.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
We just said it was that urge his numbers where
he was clutching as you get you can't take his rip.
So now another year in this outfense another year. This
is one thing I love and I see when I
know it's a good outfense. When I don't see the
player thinking, just reacting, well, that's what a whole another
year in this the officer do. So Hopefully now he's
over the thinking stage and he's in more the reacting stage.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
And then also when you watch, you watch certain guys
and it's almost one of those situations where you say,
regardless of how good that guy in front of him,
we got to put.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Him on the field.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
It's something that jumps off the charts about him and
I didn't see that, so I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I'm not mad at all with him being a rookie.
He showed me that he was a rookie last year.
He showed me that he has potential, because you know,
you don't get everybody to come in and be like
the guy who was up there in Vegas that just.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Killed the league. Bo he killed the league last year, you.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Know, bro.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
But he showed me enough in his in his tool
box that we can work on that this off season
and now look forward to us having three dominant you know,
dynamic think about it.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
It's it's as crazy as this sound. I think out
of the three, he's the most rare round. And I
think he's doing a little bit of everything. Yeah, I
think he got a little bit of everything. Aim is
not void of anything. We just need him to sharpen
those tools.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
So I think that's it for tight end. And now
let's bring in a very special guest. Super Bowl champion,
future Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
He's got a super Bowl ring on boot Mitts that
beat Mitch.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Brian Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Got that mic worked out over the upside over, you
know what I mean. Hey, we're good man. Yeah, give
that Mike one more time. Let's see say what up
he got?

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Give it off on the goal jacket.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Don't come your funny once you get that gold Jaggie.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
You know you know?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
All right, So we're here talking about running backs, like,
what is your I guess high level take on the
running back group from last year?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Where do you think they're gonna be going this year? Well?

Speaker 8 (30:58):
I think when you look at a guy like Brian
robb and last year was banging up a little bit,
and I think that hitting him whole year. But we've
seen Brian when he had terrible situations. How he comes
back how he got shot and came out beata. I
think the thing about him, He's gonna come back ready
to go. Austin Eckler was leading the league in kickoff
returns and was destroying people coming out of the backfield.

(31:19):
Now you have a little kid named Krosky Merritt, and
I think, once you start looking at him a little closer,
he is way better than the seventh round draft pick. Okay,
kid could have been the second, third round, I believe.
And when I'm looking at running Beths, I look for
balance and I think he's going to push both of
the guys in front of him.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
That's crazy to say for a seventh round pick.

Speaker 8 (31:39):
See, I think about it. People look at where you're drafted.
They don't understand how you can play. A lot of
guys get drafted higher because.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
They went to a certain school.

Speaker 8 (31:50):
Some guys get drafted lower because maybe they had one
incident and that was the thing that led their whole
career in college. So but you watch him play, you
watch him move, He is far battling what they think.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Also, go ahead, don't we have to add Deebo Samuels
to this room.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I was finna say the same thing I wasna say
the same.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
I don't think you have to. I'm just the reason
I said is this.

Speaker 8 (32:13):
Had run first offense, and they used him too much
and too wrong.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
That's why he got hurt so much.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
This office is about getting people on the edges, getting
advantage Devo Sam. He's running these slip screens, Demo sayings
out there on that edge. He's gonna make a lot
of cornerbacks think twice about hitting him. He's gonna be
effective there. Putting him in the backfield is there.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
We don't need to do that.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
But also to having so many guys that just have
different attributes, you know, that's one of the things that
specially about getting a guy and getting married this this draft,
in this draft class, you have a guy that's a
home run hitter. You have a guy that's a bruiser,
and then you have a guy in Echo that can
do everything, you know what I mean, catch out the backfield,
he can, he can, he can pick up, block, you know,

(32:57):
protect all that type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
So I think that's to me, we're.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
More well rounded now because last year we didn't have
that home run hitter. Having this kid married in here
now I think he has that potential and.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
Still remember we got number five back there, so you
have to you have to figure him out and what
that does.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
That opened up a lot for of the running man.

Speaker 8 (33:16):
So I'm expecting big things, and not just because of
them them being better coming back.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
I'm looking at an offensive line.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
You know, you don't do a damn thing without the
offensive line, and I think now they have one where
they could just say it's far they weren't lined up
and run.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
The ball, tricks and all that.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
I think they that the new office line is worth
one point five more for your don't you that if
we average let's just say, if we average three point
three last year. I think if you fight the offensive line,
it ain't nobody touching you, to you and your to
yourds down the field. That's that skyrockets. The fact that

(33:53):
we was breaking down there play the other day when
we was talking about a run with b Rob to
the left, remember talking about well, I started really thinking
about the playing out, like why was the play so open?
They had us five on JD five, So when you
spied JD five, you take somebody out the wrong with
the run front that allows us to dictate turns. So
it's it just it's one side effect at the held.

(34:15):
I gotta running quarterbacks, so you can't load the buck
like going to I got a good office line, so
we gonna make some one on one plays out here.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
It does feel like a position group that's gonna be
elevated by scheme quite a bit. Fred talked about the
impact of Jade Daniels.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I think Cliff does a great job creating space, creating
white boxes, right, these wide bunches, these wide formations, the
zone read the RPO stuff like. So I don't know, man,
Like I look at b Rob obviously, I think really
dynamic talent is how important is the running back to
the system because it the offensive line is gonna be better.
These scheme is gonna make it better offensive line.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
Last year we didn't want to discuss it when officive
line got banged up. Everybody production went down, Yeah, everybody,
and and b Rob the brun of the blame, and
I think that was that was unfair for him. Well,
if you got a better old line now. Also, we
forgot about Connedy when you all are talking about them.
You got a guy out there on the edge who
can run with those guys. Step old people like Jim

(35:13):
Musay and pick off blocks. So when I look at
this offensive line, now, I'm expecting a lot more production
out of the running backs. Okay, I'm expecting more production
out of the quarterback and the receivers because a receiver
running down the field, he can't get the balls on
to it if the.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Quarterback has pressure.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
So this offensive line is gonna dictate what this all
these running backs do. But when you get Brian one
on one on a on a defensive.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Player, they don't want to tackle him.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
So and I think Dad is gonna beat beat him down,
beat him down, beat him down. And then you bringing
the guy you feel got McNichols here. You know, we
still got those guys around.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
That's that's what I know.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
What I'm saying, Like how it's a pack room because
there are some talented guys there that have played good
football for this team last year? Like is there like
how many guys you keep? It just seems like a
really dense room.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
That's what.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
It's a dense room.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
But I think that they know the thing about now
with the extended practice squad and keep guys justin.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
You know, they.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Still have cast. I mean, was cast?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
What come down.

Speaker 8 (36:12):
They still are trying to figure out something for him.
You know, they have multiple guys, Nichols and.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
Or the other one.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
They got wildly on these.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Different guys where you're gonna at one point in time
in the season needs somebody, and I think Cliff understands
how to make it work.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
So tell me this though.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
So every year you hear them talking about taking away
a preseason game, and we knew how special, how pivotal
those games was for guys like this running back room.
How do you get to see all that if you're
taking away those kind of games?

Speaker 6 (36:44):
You know what's not complaining about working but the thing.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
But they like such an old person thing.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
It sounds like an old person. It sounds like an
old person thing. But you know what, when they go
to work, what happened? Okay, when they start doing the
things that the old people did, they do better. So ultimately,
if they get out there and start working, do I
have to wait so damn long?

Speaker 4 (37:09):
And a good part about it, we do got to
set up practices again, uh, with.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
The teams, so joint practices, practices.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
We're doing that with two different teams.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
So I think that's where they get the Book of
every take the place of the preseason.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
I have that automatically.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
When you're going to get somebody in a different jersey,
your your play level goes up.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I feel like you've got a crazy story about a
joint practice.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
I thought everybody out, everybody, joint practice is about you
want to work, but some people try to take advantage
of it. And I didn't believe in somebody taking advantage
of me. So if they chief shot Tanner, I'm gonna
come hit them. They cheap shot any one of you,
I'm going I'm gonna step in. I hated the figures guy,
but you know what, I'll erase some things for you.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Appreciate that, thanks man.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
He right.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
So let's talk about another playmaking group in this offense,
and that's wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Looks way different this year.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
There's one constant, and that's Terry Mclaurin's Terry McLaurin a
top ten player at the position.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, yeah, not even like a.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
That's the thing people look at last year.

Speaker 8 (38:26):
Let's take away last year he had mediocre quarterback, below
average quarterbacks, and he's still produced. And then when Jayden
comes in, he saw what he's capable of.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
On a consistent basis.

Speaker 8 (38:39):
He broke the record of this story franchise that has
been staying that. He broke that this year because he
has a legitimate quarterback with a legitimate play caller and
an old line that gave him enough time. Now your
officive line is even better. And the thing about he
don't complain, No, you don't sit out there.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Complaining, no deed. Not a diva. He'd like Tanner.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
You know, they played football, they played hard, but the
thieves at the received position.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
So that I love that even more about it.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
One of the things I've always said about him. I mean,
I mean, you said it right, you hit it on
the head take away last season.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Every year he showed you he was consistent.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
And that's one of the main things we have to
be in this league in order to play long and
then be productive, you know while we playing. But besides that,
here's a guy that people was judging him by how
good he looked while doing the position instead of how
productive he looked. You know, I heard a couple of
guys I had some phone calls and the guy was like,
what he catched with his body?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm like, is he catching it? Though?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
You know what I'm saying, oh, well, he don't look
like he can separate like this guy.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
He don't need to.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
But is he scoring and is he getting the yard?
So you know, I'm asking all these they asking me
these questions I'm saying. So I'm like, you're you're basically
graating him and saying, well, he don't look like this
guy doing it, but he's getting the job.

Speaker 8 (39:49):
You tell you he was drafted in the third round,
and I don't won't give him more credit than the.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
First round that he's out playing.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Which you know what I'm saying, you play dB.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
What makes him so difficult to cover?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Because again, like Tennis said, it doesn't always look like
you know the routes on Instagram, double sticks, all this
crazy step stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Why is he such a difficult cover?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If I
tell you my wife or die, she would die. That's
how you need to know. I lost it in a divorce.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
But but this is what I'm saying, by Terry, he's
one of up the best how should I say, close
catch wide receivers in the game?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Close catch? He don't need to separate.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
You.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
And that's dangerous to me because now as a guy
that has to study him, I have to find that
defining trait and he doesn't have one. He runs routes
bet just as bad as anybody.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
In the league.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
And you see when I say he got that Jerry
Rice beed if y'all noticed, nobody ever catches him from
the back.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
But people want to talk to me about his forty.
His forty is forty yards or whatever it need to be,
and that's all you worry about. He's well rounded.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
He blocks, he doesn't undress a call, meaning I never
know from where he lines up at what the call is.
He is studious, He ain't no devil. He's just hard
to play because he is so real rounded that you
can have. He don't have any idea you.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Can play your absolute best. He still comes down with
the football.

Speaker 8 (41:28):
Yes, if your defensive back and you're covering him and
you're right there and he comes down with the ball.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
That pisses you off because I did everything I'm supposed
to and he's still burting me.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
And then I think we also have to give him
some recognition for just something that Bobby Ingraand spoke to
me about last year. I remember we was out there
still taping shows right when the team broke for their
little break, and we saw Terry out there running wind
sprints and I told you guys, I say, hey, man,
when a.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Guy doing that.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
He locked in because I've been I've been in those
moments where somebody or something pushed me to do a
little more. And Bobby came and told me and say, Tana,
I was just showing Terry the all time greats at
his position on his team.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And I'm like, what you mean.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
He said, I was showing him each and every guy
who they considered one of the all time great receivers
in Washington history, franchise history. And he said, I told Terry,
you gotta get on this list. Yes, you have been
consistent every year of getting a thousand yards, but you
haven't did anything better than these guys who lead in yards,
letting touchdowns, let in whatever. And this year Terry go

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out there and lead, now break the record for touchdowns.
So it shows you how intentional he is and how
he takes on coaching. To me, that's why he's a
top ten guy because he understands I'm not just gonna
take something too hard or take your life. I'm gonna
go out there and prove you right or wrong about
who I am, because since you put in there for
me to go get it, I'm gonna go and grab it.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I think that's a really good description to Terry what
he does well and kind of how specially is this team.
The other thing that I think is interesting about this
receiver room is now there's another kind of big name,
dynamic playmaker.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
And so.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
If for somebody who's never seen Deebo Samuel's play Fred,
how would you describe his play style?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yack mixed with coke. He kind of looks it's a
Coca cola. He's a yack guy. He's a yard after
the catch guy. I think about a guy that's built
like a running back while I receive doing He's.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
A break hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm gonna
stop you there. You said yack mixed with Coca cola.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Coca Cola. That's a nice drink.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
That hind off. Miss Mona call it a Jessie Jackson
check this out.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
But you know what it is.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
Debo is going to also get a lot of tension
from a defense. You can't cover everybody. Now last year
you watched they will trying to take Terry out the game.
Try that this year. Then you got another guy who's
capable of hurting you. You got running backs that a
Cape hurt you. He is another who comes in and
takes attention. So when you're defensive coordinator, you're worried about

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one guy on the On the offense, you can do
a lot. You got Terry, Devo, Jayden Zach zach ERTs, Okay,
you still have Austin and Brian there too. You have
to try to play more of a balance defense and
they I don't think you can play that against.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
This no very honest defense.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
And when I say he's an alert guy, when he moves,
the defense has to communicator. It don't matter if it's
just him getting closer to the tackle, and if really
when he go across the formation, it's when the.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
Games really begins. And I think he's he's one of
those pieces. He's one of those pieces right there. He's
a chess piece that most people can't answer for.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, And I think when I watched him, the thing
that sticks out, like because I didn't know you know
about Devo, but when you go watch the film, when
you go watch the san Franz stuff, like he plays
like an absolute bully.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
He's got he's got a bullyman.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
But your name is Devo.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
You what I'm saying. I think that's a cool thing
to bring to that room.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
Watching those guys last year, you watch that Terry plays
and every receiver tried to play like Terry Bing. Can
you imagine now Terry and Deebo, Terry, those young guys.
When you have guys on your team, veteran players like that,
you don't have to say a lot as a coach.
You just let them do their job and they don't
have to talk a lot coach, just show up and play.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
So, Okay, we're gonna talk about other receivers, but I
want to talk about this next question more than anything, quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Jayde Daniels.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Is he the best quarterback in the NFC? Now before
we answer, Okay, if I were to take Jalen Hurts
and put them on this team and put Jayden on
the Eagles, are we worse or are we better?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
If we were to switch quarterbacks with the Eagles.

Speaker 8 (45:50):
I think you put Jayden Daniels on that team, they're
better and we're gonna be worse.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
I don't think we want to see a Jaydon dans
on the Eagle.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Because the one as she has over Jalen Hurts. He's
a more accurate passer. Yeah, all right, the roofs got
a quicker release. He anticipates better. I've been say just
the whole passing as a whole, he's a better passer.
So if we talk about the let's just go the
vision the NFC East. He's the best quarterback in the
NFC East.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
We can say that. So they go three teams right there.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I don't know, No, that's tough, Okay, I love him.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
I would sit here and say, yeah, man, now he's
the guy, but it's so many guys that have played
for you know, more than two three years.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
We have to see another year. So i'ma I'm gonna
just put it like that.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Going into this season, I would say that he's pushing
a lot of guys after.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Two seasons in this league. Then we'll be able to
probably answer that question a little better.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
So I think you bring up a good point, Tanna,
and something that I get a little bit worried about.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I'm a little worried work. You know, I can't be happy.
I can't I don't like I can't accept nice things yeah,
you're right. So we talked about the consistency of Jaydon
Daniels rights. Is there a risk of him having a
sophomore slump this year?

Speaker 8 (47:03):
It's always a risk, but they always is a guy
that works like that. No, because what happens. See the
problem is a sophomore slump. They all say, justin quarterback,
the team sometimes stays stagnant and don't get better. This
team has gotten better, the coaching gets stagnant or they
don't get better. You think, you think they're about to

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take a step back. I believe what we saw last
year with dan Quinn and this in this coaching staff.
In one year, they got those guys that respond like
that two years now and then makes the guys believe
in themselves. Look, we gonna have coaches with all the
exce and o's all you want. You can yell and scream,
but if you don't make me feel you give a
damn about me, I'm not giving you my best.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
It's natural and it's it's a human beings work.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
They may try, but they gonna always get to a
point and say, to hell with him, he don't get
about me.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
And I think the thing I'm most worried about. Maybe
is that he plays exactly the way he did this year. Yeah,
everyone says it's a slump because he absolutely balled out
of control this year.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
I don't think it's gonna be with the numbers. With him,
it's gonna be all about winning. If we take a
step back from winning, they're gonna say it's a slump.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
If he takes a step back, that doesn't mean because
your team is for this year, you're playing my team.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta, you gotta Also think
about we lost that NFC championship game and he was
the one bright spot.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
You know, he was a guy that went out there
and stood tall.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
So it's always the possibility of a guy not looking
like he looked the year before, you know what I mean,
the next year because we all we all have those
ups and down seasons. But I think, well, one thing
that's gonna stand out to me is just seeing how
he get everybody else to be either themselves are better.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
Ask your question, why is it only the quarterback then
say sophomore slump about.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
I don't talk about.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
We're talking about with Mike Sandrasol though, too.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
No, I totally understand but I don't. This guy's born
in an arcticle. He got ice Ward in his band.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
This is what I know. The bigger the game, the
bigger his play. He don't seem to go up and down.
Like no, I'm talking about Jaydon all right, Like this
dude is.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Ready for the big show. We just talked about that
lost to Philadelphia in the playoffs. He was the one
bright spot. It wasn't too big for him.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
Did Pat Mahomes have a sophomore slump?

Speaker 4 (49:26):
That hit?

Speaker 8 (49:27):
I mean, he played one game in his rookie season
and the coach felt so good that he traded the
guy he had just gotten.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
And then he came out and he threw for like
forty touchdownds.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It happens.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
Sometimes, it doesn't happen one hundred percent of the time
where people have slumps, But also a lot of people
get get complacent and and continue.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
What does Jayden seem.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Like that guy?

Speaker 5 (49:49):
I don't think so, look like Popeye right now? Yeah,
and anything I see a gun and think about it.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Our offensive line is better, the running back room is better,
the wide receiver room better.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Everything around him is better. Take the next step, all right?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
So that's kind of how we feel about the current
roster of the team. Obviously, we're really excited. I can't
wait to watch ot A start next next week. Jason,
is that where they start start next week? So we'll
get you more updates on that with the show. All right,
Now it's time.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
For hell yeah and hell all right? So well yeah,
maybe we can do that too.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Fan fan contribution is always important, all right, Jane Daniels
will continue to shine in primetime, which this year, if
you guys didn't look at the schedule, is extremely important.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Eight primetime games.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Hell can we get a brief why? Why?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Well?

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Well, one, well, for one, I feel like every every
week we playing on prime time, so he got to do.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Out there and play well. But I think I think too,
It is just.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
I like who he's been coached by this staff man,
something about dan Quinn and what he does, you know
what I mean? Those guys collectively do a great job
of getting each and every one of those guys ready.
Jade is one of those guys. He come from what
you see him doing, like he's been raised by his
father to be who he is today. So I don't
look at this guy taking this season, likely knowing that

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the pressure is even more on this year.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
So yeah, I think he go out there and kills stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Hell y'all, I just like I said, everything around him
got so much better and and this guy feed up
they on the ground, So don't I don't see his
heads getting in the cloud and loans. He stays focused.
I don't think it's nothing, Nickna stop.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
You and just to like double click on Tanna's point, Like,
so Adam Peters goes out and gets some better offensive lineman,
gets some better playmakers. Right. The coaching staff is excellent,
and we know Jade's putting the work in. So I
just feel like that's part of who he is, like
you were talking about being he's just wired that way
to kind of to continue to improve.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
I don't believe in thinking negative. I feel if you
put it positive again, man say that again, say I just.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
Believe and think it positive.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
So if you believe somebody's gonna do something and they
believe they can get it done, they normally get it done. Also,
something you will talk about earlier about the defense, and
I told you I will give you a different perspective.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
Oh yeah, that perspective is your offense is a lot better.

Speaker 8 (52:20):
Now, if your offense scores more touchdowns, run the ball
more effectively, you know what that does for your defense.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
It makes the other.

Speaker 8 (52:28):
Offense play one dimensional against them. So Jaydon Daniels and
this offense is going to be a big part of defense.
Gonna get a lot of sex. Absolutely, all right. So
the next hell yeah, hell no. So we'll start with
the fans.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
All right, the NFC East is between the Eagles and
the Commanders.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Hell yeah, yeah, hell yeah, hell yes.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
It won't be the Cowboys at the Giant.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
I ain't the two teams that played in the NFC Championship.
I think both teams got better in the offseason. And
you know, once you get the winning like that the Philadelpia,
you can believe they can win anywhere.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Once you win that Super Bowl, you can believe you
can win anywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
But at the end of the day, I think it's
the two best quarterbacks in the NFC East, and that
say it's a lot too.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
So I got a question for you, friend, how does
the roster the Eagles roster sack up with the Commanders
after this kind of blockbuster free agent trade season for
the Washington commanders.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
We went got fat, we went got big. We've seen
what happened in the NFC Championship game. We got pushed
a round, so we win. Got big back on both
sides of the ball. We win't got bigger at the tackle.
We win, got bigger at the edge. We went, got
bigger at right tackle, We got bigger at left tackle.
Everybody he rolled in on, even the wide receiver that

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we got this year, got a big back, Deebo saving.
We went got tough, like that's what we seen. We
went got tough because we feel like we got pushed
a round.

Speaker 8 (53:56):
But let's think right this. We moved the ball on
the Eagles that one game we didn't win. All officer
line were hurting Jade. But if we don't turn the
ball over in the NFC Championship game, we're moving the
ball on them. We scored thirty some points on them
while we were here. The office is not concerned about
their defense, as good as they were.

Speaker 6 (54:18):
It just takes our defense taking a step forward and
then it's on and popping.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Love that love that all right. So this one man,
this is a this is a bold one from producer
Jason so Fans.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Let us know, the Super Bowl is a legit reality
for the first time since the rfkda's.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
He pretty true stuff about that, you.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Know, other than nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 8 (54:41):
In nineteen ninety nine, we were one game from the
NFC Championship Game and we had some snapping going on
and messed up some stuff.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
They rolled the step back. Oh okay, we played against Tampa.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Man, the game was over. Yeah, well, you know, I
think so.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
I think last years, you know, we actually put a
stamp on it by getting to.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
The NFC Championship Game.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
So when when you have your first season with this
regime to actually be an NFC get make it to
the NFC Championship Game each and every year removed from
that year, that's what you're coming into the season thinking,
we gotta get we gotta get one game better than
what we were last year.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
So we didn't have those years in our years of playing.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
No, we don't think we had those years when I
played with you and these guys got out there the
first year together and had that success.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
So I'm looking forward to seeing the more.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
You know, it is such a reality, man, y'all might
have to pinch me and wake me up. Because it's legit.
I think when you got a legit coaches style, legit quarterback,
you see what they did last year was the floor
like and I don't think people eould look at the
reality of that.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Last year was the first year of coach Quinn.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Last year was the first year legit quarterback, and they
they succeeded our expectations.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
But now we got expectations. Those expectations.

Speaker 8 (55:56):
Saying you don't have to understand. It comes to a
confidence and this team believes in itself. Every time I
talk about him, I always talk about the coaching staff
because I believe this coaching staff develops talent. They get
the best oute of people. That wasn't happening before. We

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got guys come in and it were worse than three years.
They are making guys better now. And if you could
keep drafting and getting the talent, you're gonna be competing
on a regular basis. That's what you need to do,
getting the playoffs, compete every year, and all of a
sudden you end up in the big Show.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Absolutely, so. I think obviously we're really excited about the roster.
We're really excited about Jaye and Daniels. We're really excited
about the direction this team is going.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Another thing that I'm really excited about is the potential
RFK thing going on.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Zero getting back to RFK.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
Yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
So it's funny off this panel right now. Two of
us have played in RFK. Yeah right, me and you. Yes,
I'm sure your memories are much better than mine. There,
can you talk a serm real quick RFK.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
My first part return for a testdown was in RFK. Really,
my first one hundred yard rustling game against Dallas in RFK.
You know, it's like the thing about that place, it
was so close. It's just like the fans are right here, boot.
That's how they felt. Fifty four thousand people. And I'm
gonna be honest with you, FedEx has gotten loud. It's
never been allowed to those fifty four thousand.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Well because because like you, we've all played in like
those tight stadiums like Seattle.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Yeah, when it's on top of you, it's just hits.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
But the way the architect the way they built it
to where when the noise goes up and come right
back down and just stayed in there. But you know
the thing about it is that's when we had a
legit home field advantage. People used to be concerned about it.
You know, everybody looked at the stadium about, oh it's old,
who cares. When I went to Philly to the Vet,
we played on the same field. But I really believe

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you get it's I'll say this, everybody played politics.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
I don't play party. That stadium will be back there.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
All these people that been yeah, I've been talking all that,
they're gonna get ran out the way and they're gonna
go in. It's already a lot of guys that were
saying I might not vote, Well, now they're saying I'm
starting to change my mind. They know this thing is
a locomotive and they better get the hell out the way.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
So why is it so important to get back there.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
It's the soul in the heart of the city. Like,
think about it. For too long, we've been disconnected.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
We live in Virginia, were playing Maryland, but we the
Washington Commander.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
They don't go together. So I think, think about this.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
The one thing people say when they go to Baltimore
and the joy game, they love the path to the
stadium because.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
It's in the city.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
You get a taste of where Baltimore Hills. When people
come here, we want to get him a Tasa where
Washington he is ight, So for that to happen, it
need to be back in the heart of the city.
We always says you was a good salesperson.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Not only that, I just think that when you when
you look back at those championship teams, that's where they
was able to connect and do that there. You know
what I mean, we left we we actually say Okay,
we're gonna win three super Bowls. Now we're gonna relocate
and go somewhere else. I mean, it was all produced
and it was politics didn't right then, it right there
in RFK. So I just feel like we left a

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lot behind and I didn't have a chance to really
experience that.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
So I don't notice. I just I'm just a guy
that watched you.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Guys playing as a kid and understood what this history
was about. So when I got here and we're playing
in Landover, I'm like, with Damn, that ain't the same
stadium that I watched growing up. And then when you
see the trajectory of where we was at all throughout
those years, to me, it was because we need to
be somewhere else, you know what, I mean, but you look.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
At right now in this city, this whole area is
because of that.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
That baseball stadium.

Speaker 8 (59:50):
Down down close in downtown in China Town is because
of that stadium. You and now they're talking about building
the stadium over here on the water where I'm gonna
go on the boat.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
But you get double with me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Coming down.

Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
Tell me, like George Wall, I'm just saying, you look
at the possibilities. You look at Super Bowls, you look
at World Cups, you look at NBA Championship. All these
different things will be in this city. Olympics will be
in this city. I think when you look at that possibility,
you can't get a politician in the world to tell
me that's got a good thing.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
They gotta get the hell out the wind.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
If you guys are excited about this, make sure you
support it. Right, So make sure you support it. An
easy way to support that and keep up with the
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more and support it. They need to know you guys
want this, so make sure you go to the website

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sign up. Let everyone know that you want this to
happen because this is a big deal. You guys can
make this happen. Let's make it happen. Guys, thank you
so much for coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Job. It's been great doing the show here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Good job.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
We got merch.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
What you man interviewed me earlier?

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Now we gonna get louder yet loud. That's May twenty
ninth at the Admiral at eight pm. We gonna have
some fun. See my podcast is live a bit more
loocid in this one that we do. We have a
live bit more fun and we're more about the fan
in the action. So most definitely can't wait to see
y'all there.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
Y'all shoul do it on the boat, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
You know I had joined the navy for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
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coming out. You guys are the reason we do this.
Really appreciate you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Thank you not go to for today's show.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
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