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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we talk
about the Tears system versus Top one hundred using my
top thirty two picks.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Man Booo and Fred.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I didn't realize this about you. You still wish us
from wishing?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, everybody does.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Everybody does. And Tatana Moss tells us who's gonna get
him hyped? They picked him at seven. It all starts
right now.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Get in a one. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm looking pulse in here with Fred Smoot and Santana
Moss and we are in the Big Bear AI Command
Center studio, YEP and Boys Draft Week.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Draft Week.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I called him the week of tears because he's gonna
be some people good tears. Ye I'm gonna say, had
some good tears, and he's gonna be some bad tears.
Some family's gonna change forever. Some I'm gonna have to
figure out another way to get in.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's one of those weeks.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Man, Even as a guy who was going through the
draft process, it was almost surreal, like it's here.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I can't believe it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I like, so now fast forward of all the years
of me playing, of all the years of me watching
It's like, do they even know the moment?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
How? How?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
How like the magnitude of this moment? They know because
I know it. Through the process, I was so laser
focused on just making it.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Not the making it part.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
I still knew that, Okay, you get you're gonna get
drafted regardless wherever around it is.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Now you got to go live up to it in
the NFL. Y.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, So I was almost like the way I played
in college, that's the same way I thought going through
the draft process.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I feared, now what i'ma have to do on the
next side. Yeah. I don't know if everyone goes through that,
but you're probably with somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Know the fel I was chilling with my mom and grandma.
That's what I want to do. But you're right, this
Monday when they wait, when they woke up this Monday,
they are really thinking it's three days yeah before something
that they've been dreaming about for twenty plus years Finnah happen.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
The dreams are about to come true.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
And one of the things that I mean, we all know,
it changed a lot of lives, you know, I mean,
especially from just you know, it's crazy because now you've
got a lot of these kids getting an IL deal,
So it's a lot, I know for us, and the
gas came before us. This is like your you know,
you made it, my baby, my baby, Finn, go ahead
and change a lot of things that we got going
on over here right now.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So air dresses everything, you name it.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Boy, we got to take care a lot of people
to it.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's kind of part of the voge.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
But luckily this new generation, they'll get used to the
money in college and by the time they make it
to the lean now they have already did kind of
the heavy lifting. So you know, that's a good part
about it, though generationally it is.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, really, go you brought that up for Antenna. You
said something that I thought was really interesting, and it's
something that I think people don't think about.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
But you get.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Drafted and you got to live up to it well.
And I think that's one of the reasons that both
you guys were successful pros is because that wasn't the
end of the journey.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It was literally just the beginning.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, it was the first step to a great care
and I think there's a lot of guys you know
that have that thought where it's like I made it
and I think one of the things, like when you're
talking to teams, they want the guys that say, I
want to earn what you gave me.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I want to earn the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
So I want to tell you funny story, Like me
and my homeboys talk about this all the time, and
like I literally got drafted. And if you saw the
expression on my face, there's a lot of reasons that
I ain't having because it.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was but I was happy, No kidding, I was.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I was ecstatic, but I was kind of emotionally to
strap a little bit. I was like, damn, why why
of all the places there, you know what I mean?
It was two places I didn't want to be home,
and I didn't want to go to New York because
it was just I just started New York being.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Cold, from Miami Green to New York Green.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
So those are the two places. I didn't want to
stay home because I've been home already. And I didn't
want to go to New York. And I'm talking about
anywhere in New York, Giants, Buffalo. I didn't want to
go to New York that that spot. But I'm happy inside,
and I remember, like cousins and friends all like Okay,
so tonight, what's on his own, We're finna go celebrate.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I was like, no, we ain't party. My homeboy, Like, damn,
so we ain't gonna go out.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I said, noah, bro, we're gonna see it right here
in this chill and I see y'all boys tomorrow and
like a regular day. I like talking about fearing what's
to come. I didn't want to do nothing wrong still
or be in a situation because you hear so much.
That's one of the things about me. I'm always I
think I overthink things all the time. No, I'm like, bro,
it'll be just my luck that I I don't want

(04:24):
to go enjoy myself, old man, and somebody don't want
me to be happy. Yeah, and I get we get
involved in something and I see it every day, yea
every year, a guy who went out and celebrated before
he even signed that contract. Yeah, you get drafted, but
you haven't putting nothing on paper, got a check. I
didn't want to just I didn't want to stop none
of that.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
No, I think that's a dude, it's it is. It's
a great moment. Like I was just thinking about when
you were talking about the tears and what it means
some of these families. But again it's not it's not
the end.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, no, no, it's not the end.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
But we wait for that your name to call, You
wait on your name to get called and your name
getting college. More than a Jersey. We still stay in Washington,
DC area. We have made it home all So that's
how big it is. We should been in the rest
of life in the place that we played this.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
When I was talking to my wife last night, I
was like, did you ever think we'd be living in Virginia. No,
it is the answer. I thought we'd you know, we
came back to California do the whole thing. But again,
it kind of opens you up to a community, opens
you up a whale life. Like my kids are Virginians now.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Like that's all they know.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
They don't know California one hundred percent. So it is
it is a life changing thing. From the money, from
the family, from the environment you're going to one hundred percent,
and so on today's show, we're going to talk a
little bit about what that looks like like Basically, how
do they make decisions in the draft room to come
to these opportunities to draft these young these young athletes.
So we're going to kind of go through like this
what I'm gonna call like a tier system explanation. So

(05:47):
I think a lot of people fred are familiar with
these vertical countdowns, right player one to fifty, one to
one hundred and one to one fifty, whatever it looks like.
And to me, that is an inadequate way to make
a listen.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Because because they're trying to consume all thirty two teams,
they're not looking at it from only.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Team we care about is Washington.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
And the only thing I care about out of these
first thirty two picks is number seven, the one I got.
So therefore, yeah, Washington, big boy gonna look totally different
than Male Kaifers. Male is trying to pick for the Dolphins.
Mail is trying to pick for this team. Like our
board shrinks, because all right, we got one pick in
the first round. All we care about if displayer or
displayer falls to this spot, we're gonna these are the

(06:31):
players we want. And once these players start to go
off the board, your boy starts to shrink. Now, let's
just say none of the players that you wanted are there.
That's when you get on the phone and start to
make calls. So it's it's different when you're looking through
one eye of one GM.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, so to me, Tanna, like everyone talks about one
to one hundred and everyone, So why isn't that the
right way to do it? Don't you just want the
next best player?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
So, like I think Fred kind of touched on some
missioning stuff there. One of the things is like you
take up at these tiers system, so like tier one,
tier two, tier three, tier four, because the differences between
players standa like between you and Fred. For example, I'm
not I don't I don't remember you guys coming out,
but like maybe it's not that much different and we're
sitting there and it's like, well, how do we quantify that?
You know, a vertical board doesn't really do a good

(07:17):
job of showing you that. So that's where you talk
about tiers system. Hey, have you got three players in
tier one? We got ten players in tier two, we
got fifteen players in tier three. So when we get
to that point of the draft, like Fred's talking about,
you could make the best decision for you team, right,
Does that make sense? Dan? And I think it's one
of those things that people don't think about because like
it goes inside with like the best player available, like

(07:39):
which Fred was talking about it, So like best player available,
it is subjective per team. So the best player available
for Washington is different.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Than the best player for Daily. And people say, well,
why is that scheme? We just we do things.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, we need the bodies that we're missing, you know,
the bodies that we need depth, you know, the positions
we need depth that you know me And like a
lot of stuff plays a part of your final decision
or that decision period, but it doesn't fit this other
team's decision because they could say, like, well, that guy
right there fits what we want to do right now,
you know what I mean. And Washington gonna be sitting

(08:13):
there saying, well, that's a guy that we can probably
stretch our arms a little bit and back out of
this thing, because you know, the guys that's here, we
kind of we kind of okay, and all.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I got two guys like that on my rock style already.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, and even like even higher level than that, like
let's say you're a four down team and you want
a big defensive end or you're an odd front, you
want like a pass rushing specialist. Like that's a different
body type, it's a different skill set. Both have value,
but the value for those teams is different, so the
board's going to look different. So when you get to
that second tier of players and you look around and
you say, well, this player's got the same grade as

(08:49):
this other player, but one's a corner and one's a
right guard for the commanders, the corner has more value. Right,
so it is best player available, but it also kind
of weeds in team need. And I do think the
tiers system Tanne helps show you that. It's kind of
like finances. I was thinking in some ways, Right, you
have like A A plus stocks, B plus stocks. There's

(09:10):
not just one stock that's to be plus stock. Yeah,
there's one hundred in there. Yeah right, Like I'm go.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Find which one you comfortable with taking some risks with.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
This is the draft. It's just like stock. All these
players come with risks and reward.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah. That's the thing about it.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I hate to tell people, is everybody you draft ain't
going to even be on the team in two you.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Isn't it funny?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Though?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
We talk about the tiers and talk about how many
guys are already perceived to be that that that key guy,
that key you know player that's going to be able
to come in here and make a difference. And then
you get in every draft, no matter how you how
you pick them, how you call it someone waiting round
six or seven, gonna being the best of that class,
being a ball mean or that, or the best for

(09:51):
what you need it for your team. And it is
odd because you look at them and saying, like you
wonder as a fan because I wanted as a former player,
Like how you didn't? Was it because of the way
you know where he was at in college?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
You know how that team performed.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Because if this guy is good, how is he not
perceived to be a higher draft pick?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Why is he so far on the board? Like he said,
because of the tier he was in?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I draft Steve Smith, Yeah, got drafted in the back
end of the draft. But then we got Jamal Reynolds
d N from Florida State going number ten. Didn't play
a down in Green Bay his whole career.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's so funny that busts and later round breakout guy
has kind of I don't want to say disappeared. It
so happens, like you're right, Tanna, But it's become so
less common because I think teams are so much better
at the analytics.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
They used to be. It's like Steve nowadays, like.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Steve Smith, for example, would be an analytics darling because
he was an explosive playmaker. He separated well, he had
a deep average up of target, so there's no way
that he wouldn't be like a second round pick now
because of this advanced data stuff. And then like the
d N, I have no idea who it is, but.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Like Jamal Reynolds, there's a number one his phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
They look at like forty times vertical jumper. They also
look at like some of these like proximity to There's
all these advanced GPS things now which help kind of
mitigate some of that stuff. And the more data you
get on these players, the easier the breakdown is.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I just wanted like it's just odd to me
because I feel like when you play, like, let's just
bring up Steve Smith again, since we was talking about
him as a receiver watching him when you saw your likes,
I'm like, he can go. Even everything I did at Miami,
he was doing at Utah or Utah State wherever he
was at.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And I'm sitting there saying to myself.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
But that's how you get not mentioned or not seen
because of the school and the competition. So you might
look at that and say, well, his competition that he
played is different from just like me and my homeboy
talking about I committed to Western Michigan. If Tanna goes
to Western Michigan, I'm going to catch for eleven twelve
hundred yards probably every year because that's how the receivers
was getting law. But I won't get the same recognition

(11:59):
that I got in Miami. In Miami, I got way
less than that every year, and I was considered one
of the top wide receivers. So it's all about that
school too, in the competition level and the stage you
play on the stage you play a lot of those
big games that I played in. It was big game
at the Big Game and who was showing up six six?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So now you're you're showing nationally.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Televised viewers and the fans that, oh, this guy can
play on the big stage.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
But it's also measurements. Measurements get paid.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Drafted Lord, right, go back to our draft class, Drew Brees.
Drew didn't have none of the measurements for quarter. They
wanted Hall of Famer got taken in the second round.
He would have been the first round if you're going
off produced stats.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Off the stats.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
He had the stats, but he didn't have the measurements.
And I think that's where guys get caught with my
hands ain't big.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Enough, bamems, ain't long enough.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Because I will say that, and I'm glad you brought
it up. If I'm not at Miami, don't get drafted
in the first round, mainly because they didn't even want
me to be in the first round as a receiver anyway.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
They say you five nine and a half five ten.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I had a write up in the Miami Hera which
the Dophins was trying to get me to drop anyway
that had never been a receiver Santana Moss's size that
got picked in the top ten, that they had me
projected to go as a wide receiver in the first round,
and it was it was false. It was somebody a
couple of years prior that had got picked that high.
But they was trying to out for cheaper, you know

(13:30):
what I'm saying. And it was crazy because even when
I went out there and performed ran my forty, first
thing they said was if you was five eleven, you'd
be the first receiver off the board, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So it's crazy that you brought themagine.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Thing, because that played a huge factor in my draft
status and even being one or two or three or
four receivers taken in.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
The first round.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
So it's so funny you bring that up because like
everyone says, why do people care about the measurements? Like
why is that important?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
And Santana, you're an exception, like you're a unicorn, You're unique.
Drew Brees is a unicorn. He's unique. Right, there are
one hundred Drew Breeses for everyone that makes it. You
know what I'm saying, because like those those measurements are
funny because they do work. Like I think about defense, like,
you know, I had a block defensive lineman, right, like,
and there were guys that I remember being difficult to block,

(14:19):
Alden Smith, the Marcus Ware. They had long.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Arms, right, you know, you couldn't get into it.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I couldn't get into El Hunter. I couldn't get in them.
But then there's other guys that are were good players
in college. You'd wear them out. They just couldn't use
their length the right way. Right, So like there are
reasons for these thresholds, and there are reasons coaches to
seek them out, and there are reasons analytics communities have
like leaned into this. But I do think it's like
it's remember like there's always an exception. It's just how
much are you willing to bet on that exception? And

(14:44):
you'll see that We're going to talk about my top
one hundred big board here in a second. Like there
are players that I like a lot, but I don't
know what to do with them because they.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Are they don't meet your measurements but exception. But this
would make special NFA players special to me. Like when
I see it Darren Spros on the field, I know why.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
He on his feed. But there's one of those guys you.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Know ks game was mold but rock cop right, Darren
Spros and.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Who came out to guy name is who played before Spros. Yeah,
he played play with me and with the Jets. He's
a kid return I forgot his next.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
The dude Kensy State won't recruit you if you over
a five nine.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I know. But these guys but they were really productive,
but are they as productive in the league?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:28):
They wasps the world was the exception.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think Rock played thirteen.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Rock was like a fullbacks the team, and I'm not
there's nothing wrong with that, I know what. But like
people say, like, why why was he never as productive
as he was in college? And a little bit if
it's because you don't have the forty, you don't have
the explosive power, right, you don't have the all those
different things.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Your dude, Maurice Jones juke. Yes, my guy didn't have them.
He don't measure up in nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
But I actually think he's a really good comp Ta
Tanna because dude came out and ran a four to
three eight at like two fifteen and he's five nine.
I've been saying he had like a forty inch vertical
like all of a sudden, he's like, dude, that dude's crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Like I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
I didn't think he would what be the guy he
was When I heard he was going to Jacksonville, like, oh,
friends over there, like you you're.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Not coming in there and gonna you know, you know.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Outplay, And before you know it, they running, They was
going one and two, they was going, you know, he
get a couple of carriers, He get a couple of carriers.
So yeah, but he is one of those, Like you said,
there's that's about ten of those guys, but one of
them make it and he's the exception.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, so that's that's where the analytics come in. And
again going back to the tier system, like all the
tier system is is just like a decision matrix, right,
It's like, hey, we've gotten through these three guys. We
don't have a value here for us, We've on the
next tier. Who do we like here? Can we trade
back all those different things? So I think that's gonna
do it for the first segment of the show. And
now we got to announce Fred. I'm curious to how

(16:53):
this goes today. Who the goat of the Reads is?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Do we even get I read.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Jason's got it?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So who's the go to?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
The reds got this nice statue.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I think Fred did his thing as well.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Guy, it's the life of him. Tell me that I
won the reads this week.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
That was nice.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Good job friend, about you have to be reas to win.
Only had one that is true, only one read? Stop congratulating,
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He's not co cool.

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Like it's faith for destined. Yeah, we got Virginia Lottery.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Here we go. Yeah, I got Tanna.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Who you got what you got?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I got Triple A in the first one.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, here we go. That's a nice long way guy.

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Speaker 1 (19:05):
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Speaker 2 (19:09):
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sick of dollar sick.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
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draft coverage this year.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh yeah we do.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, So Tanner, you're go on to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
You'll be there.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I think you might have an opportunity to interview the
person when they're there.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
We picked Fred.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You're gonna be I'm gonna be at Northwest Stadium with
the fans rocking to hear that name get called.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
So where will y'all be at when y'all be on
the field or where y'all be in We've in the area, yep,
when we was at YAH last year.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's going to be a party.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And so also like we'll and then I'll be here
with London in studio with London Bram like our Game
Day crew. We'll be here talking about that. And we
have an hour of pregame show leading.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Up to the draft.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, so talk about if you're a Commander's fan, I
don't know if there's anything else you want to look.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
At it right listen, we're gonna give you everything you need.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
We got video breakdowns, We've got all sorts of stuff,
tier anything you want. Yeah, breakdowns at seven, the whole thing. So,
like make sure you check that out. And then we
are live for fifteen minutes during the pick. We have
exclusive interviews with Adam Peters, Dan Quinn, the.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Whole game, my reaction after the peak, Yeah, which reaction
from you?

Speaker 7 (20:59):
Yea?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
So if you're a Commander's fan, you love this show
just and you love the Commanders which which we know
you all do. Make sure you check that.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Out, all right.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
So now let's get into the tier list. Freend tannem
I think you have a copy of The Tears here somewhere. Yeah,
So we're gonna what we're gonna do. It's gonna run
down pick. We're gonna do it in segments. We're gonna
go pick thirty two to fourteen, and you guys can
ask me anything you think sands out. And basically I'm
gonna tell you why I made the tear cut offs
where I.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Did, all right, So we don't go from the bottom up.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
You go from the bottom up, thirty two to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
You gotta team me about thirty one.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Thirty one, Yeah, Emmanuel pregnant, Yeah about him? So he's
a guard from Oregon. Yeah, yeah, So let's I'll read
them up. So yeah, that's a great that's a great production.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Note.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and if you want to see this list, it's
on the Commander's.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Website, so you can go check it out, you can
chack it.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
So basically, from thirty two up is Emmanuel mcneer, Warren
safety from Toledo, Ammanual Pegnik guard from Oregon, Christian Miller
is a defensive tackle from Georgia. Blake Miller is a
tackle from Clemson. Denzel Boston is player twenty eight. And
that is my first tier. So basically that first or

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that it's really the one, two, three, four five. The
fifth tier is kind of the players that I think
could go anywhere from the bottom of the first to
the second round. And there's more players in that tier
where we're just talking about the first round. Yeah, so
that's the first tier. The second tier, which we're talking
about in this segment is Chris Johnson, the cornerback from
San Diego State, Trade Stukes the safety nickel player from Arizona,

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Eli Stowers the tight end from Vanderbilt. Jordan Tyson, receiver
from Arizona State, Max i and Ankor from Arizona State.
The tackle Monroe Freeling, tackle from Georgia. Caden Proctor the
monster tackle from Alabama, Kenyon Sadik tight end from Oregon.
Cad McDonald. We'll talk about that in the second Caden
McDonald defensive tackle from Ohio State. Mkaia Lemon receiver from

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usc A, Keem Mesidor defensive from Miami. Keldric Falk defensive end,
defensive tackle kind of hyghbrid guy from Auburn and then
Omar Cooper junior receiver from Indiana. And so basically the
tiers go fifth tier from tier thirty two to twenty eight.
Fourth tier goes from twenty seven to fifteen. And I'll

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talk to you through it if you've got any questions
on that.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Oh right, thirty one.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
So you want me to talk about pregnant, I want you.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
To talk about pregnant first.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
So basically, like when I look at offensive Linemontana, I
look at I look for like a little bit of
size and a little bit of strength, and he has
all of that stuff. He's got good feed. But the
thing that really jumps out to you is when he
puts his hands on you. I see people's souls leave
their body like they're surprised how strong and powerful this
man is. Hand great, He's got a ten and a

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half inch hand, so huge hand. He's able to like
create his own space in the run game, move people
off the spot. I think he has actually a better
athlete than people think. And I just see a guy
that is going to probably be a starting guard at
some point. Give them the right system. Obviously probably more
of a gap scheme type of guy. But I see
value there and people say, oh, like I have Chase
pasantis from A and M higher than him, or Rutledge

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from Georgia Tech higher. I think there's more consistency in
his play, and I think his elite you talk about
elite tradespread YEA is his strength. And so let's talk.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
About this first which transfers to the NFA.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, and so I think he's going to be a
low first early second round player because I think there
are some athletic limitations and he's a guard. So like
the value there in the first round, I think there's
players that are more valuable than him, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I was going to ask you a question two about that.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
So basically he's in a fifth tier, but he's still
a first round talent.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, So every year there's all these guys that kind
of are like you'll you talk to like a GM
or a regional scout and there's like, oh, there's a
guy that I think could go anywhere between twenty and
thirty seven. So first round player by grade. Yeah, but
like when you're going through the picks, we just talked
about this, right, Like, let's say I have a Manual
Pregnant and trade and Stokes on the board at the

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same time. Yeah, right, the safety of Arizona and I'm
a team that needs a safety. Even though I think
Emmanual Pregnant is the stead of a play, I got
to take the guy. I'm going to take the quote
unquote best player available. Yeah, in trading Sukes. And so
then Emmanuel Pregnant moves down a pick. Maybe it's the
same thing there, but just keeps moving down. Like something
that Adam Peters said last year, which I thought was
fascinating to this point, Tanna, was they thought Josh Connelly

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could go as high as seven. I think it was
to Chicago at the time, right, Yeah, but and that's
totally reasonable. But then you do the one for one
matrix thing the whole way down and he's there at
twenty nine. Yeah, yeah, because he's not in a certain
tier on certain people's or so I think that's kind
of what I'm talking about there with the tears.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
So what that being said that I mean, I asked
you that question so you can answer this question. What
you where you consider him as the best at his
position on that that draft class you're talking.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
About how many how many other guards? I mean guards?
You think that's in front of him?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
So in this class, yeah, Emmanuel pregnant one one.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, And it's that's why I asked the question. You
see where he at?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, that far down, that's a great yeah, but he's
the number one guardy you know what I mean, we
hated number two.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
But but that's that's exactly right because you look at
it and you're like, if you're a guardiniti team and
we don't get Van Guyoni, here's the second guard. He's
the second guard, and so maybe he goes higher than that, right,
So that's that's how that and it's.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
The thin lie between these first because I look at
here at twenty eight you got Denzel Boston, but also
at twelve you got CARTNEYL.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Tate.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Not a big gap for me, yeah, but there there's
so to me, a better example in the from the
third tier to the second tier is Omar Cooper Junior,
who's my fifteenth player, and Colonel Tat is my twelfth player.
Right like e they're in different tiers, but but right there,
but they're right next to each other, you know, they're
cousins up there. So that's so that's that's a great
example of like the tier system. What's going on there?

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And yeah, so I know, I know there's a couple
of names on there, Fred that you're just.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Really just scratches my itch.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Listen to me. It in no drail.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
It's King and Sandy supposed to be your twenty of players,
your third he's in the third group.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
He's in the thirird tier, first tier athlete.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
So this is a really good example of why the
tier system is important because if you're on a vertical list, right,
you see twenty are like, what the hell? Yeah, but
he's in the same category to me as Omark Cooper Junior.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
So he's actually in the fourth tier, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
He's in the Yeah, he's in the fourth tier. So
but he's in the same category. So I think he
could go he could go as high as fifteen, yeah,
but I also think he can go as low as
twenty seven. Yeah, right, so he's in that. That's how
I view the tier system.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
But you know what's so interesting about all this because
like there's gonna be guys like who are I guess
you could say that we call draft gurus who's on
that stage that night, and they gonna be talking about
all these players, and then something may shift, like we
just talked about with the Giants already shifting things, something
may shift. A guy might get picked out of his
position or spot that everybody predicted he was going to

(27:45):
go in, and then now that other team might say, well,
that was my guy. I gotta go for my next
best guy, and that next best guy on they boy
could be that that lineman.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
You're just talk you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, So it just to me, I feel like it
happens all the time, and you know, you never know
because for you to say that he's the second best.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Guard and you got him down there, you know, who's.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
To say that the team gets a trade or you know,
I mean that might want to get.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Him at higher.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
With that being said, too safe safe As you have
a team that's picking at twenty nine or thirty right
and they trade and maybe get another pick, maybe that
thirtieth pick that they may gave to somebody else, do
you think they still go after that guy that they
wanted that thirty higher or do you.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Say that if they feel like the dude gonna fall?

Speaker 4 (28:34):
But if they on the board and they say that
they need to need a guard, but they but they
went in there and gave somebody a pick that they
needed because they was going to get more down the road.
Do they still go get that guard with a different
pick higher than where they was at, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
So it's a good point. I think a really good
example with tennis talking about is like I've heard this
is we're gonna go We're gonna get to this in
a second. But I've heard like people say, oh, you know,
this is a seven player draft kind of at the
top right, and I have exactly seven players in like
my top two tiers. So like you've heard, you know,
Adam Peters talking about trading back and they'd be willing
to trade back to that eleven or twelve range. Yeah,

(29:08):
you know what that tells me they have exactly six
six players in that tier because basic they're saying, if
we don't have the person we wanted seven, we get
to trade back this far and still get one of
those players in that tier. And so that's where the
tiers are helpful, and they help you kind of in
the moment like oh, this player we want to got picked,

(29:29):
who else is in the same tier that we like
in Philodee.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
I thinks it's interesting because as a player, we never
knew it was really Tears.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
We just knew it he's the first round potentially, say,
we knew like top five out of their position. Yeah,
we knew who.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
We knew it was lottery picks, but we never knew
they labeled it as a tier.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, And I think.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
That's the fun thing too. It's like top five out
of positions one thing. But like so for example, like
I was talking to one of our producers and it
was like, I only have three centers in the top
one hundred players, right, so that so you know, so
that tier they're in like the sixth tier of the
seventh tier, right, They're way down the board, but they're
still the best center the physician, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So that's why your draft grade is always more important, yeah,
than everything, elp, because your draft grade is saying, no
matter what year of a draft, this is what his
grade is overall is a player. Yeah, And I think
that's why the draft grade hold a little bit more
weight than the tears.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
And so for me, like obviously, if the Commanders were
to trade down obviously the Jets at sixteen. Like some
of these players in here, just names like Keldrick Falk
would be interesting. Key Mesidor from Miami Absolute Dog, twenty
six years old, Makayle Lemon, I mean, yeah, I can't
get out of the Amino Saint Brown comp with him, Like,
I just see that so closely with him.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Listen the look he had in his eyes. Had to
come by sign him up.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
I like players with little edge, and he seemed to
be like our football. He's like, man, I won't ask
him question. I can't here to play football like this
is this kind of like his mindset.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, everyone talks about, hey, we need a corner, right
obviously there's mansword of lanees in my second tier. But
you move down, you're like, I think Chris Johnson is
the a heck of a football player if you're in
that sixteen point even though that seems high on a
lot of mock drafts recently in other people's boards, like
he's in that tier where the seventeenth pick should approximately happen.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
So I think it wouldn't be too much.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I got an interest in name for you, and it's
crazy because I feel like the coast that we get
to the draft day, this guy's name has been talked
about nine as high as nine.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
You have him right here in your fourth tier Jordan Tyson.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Dude, I'm really going like you know what I mean, Like,
give me your your breakdown on why he's a fourth
tier guy. So, but folks are talking like he may
sneak up in the top ten ten picks.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
So to me, I talked about this with Fred earlier today,
Like he is the best receiver. He is the best
receiver in the draft. Like to me, it's not even close. Yeah,
you watch him like watching versus Texas. If you guys
got Tom Nigga watching Texas tech game. Man, he has
like twelve catches. He's all the field, acrobatic catches, body
control the route, ten of the route, running the stems,
it's all there. He gets out of his cut and
explosive us. I've been watching, no wasted movement, just there.

(32:01):
The problem is I haven't seen an MRI. I haven't
seen the next where.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I haven't talked to it.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I haven't talked to a doctor. So I hear that
he's missing significant time. He's only played a third of
the games over the last year a third of the
games of last two years. So like, as good as
I think he is, Like, what is the best availability?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Availability is the best the ability?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
There we go, I messed it up.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah he butchered. Butchered it.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
But that's that's so with him, Like Danna, like, I
think he's a stut but like, what is the risk
associated with that? And where do I feel comfortable? And
to me, as a guy who doesn't have any medical information,
I say between fifteen and twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
I think it's fair because that's one of the things
that we look at about quarterbacks who didn't play a
lot and I don't, and they sneak up into the
draft because of how well they performed in a forty
or may have a huge arm just one year, and
then when you see him play thrown into that position
quicker than they probably pose, you know, it doesn't add up.

(33:03):
He's saying, yourself, this is what we was sketchy about,
you know what I mean. So I get it, you know,
but I think that position alone, being where Jordan is at,
Jordan Tyson receivers are on a different level in the league,
and if he's healthy enough, he's gonna get enough opportunity
to go out there and show us he's worth where
they say he may go or where he may be,
you know.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
And scary to think about that this guy could be
a a Los.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Angeles Ram in the second round. Like that's scary, yell.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, it is scary because he's he's he's a good
football player. Yeah, he's a good football and so that's
again something else be able to talk about is the
way I do this is I go like one to
one hundred, and I think the hundredth player is a
good player. I think the first player is a good player.
But I think the first player is less risky than
the hundredth player. Does that make sense what I'm saying, Like,
as you move up the draft, you're just mitigating and

(33:51):
managing risks.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's how it is. The first round is all risk averse.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Like I'm not just I'm trying to not miss up
more than I'm trying to hit a home run.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, so I'm trying to think of there's any other
players here that would be interesting for Washington, you know,
like you were talking about Kenyan Sadik at twenty, like
you love them, right, and the other this is what
I want to bring up. I'm glad we get back
to the Kenyan CID thing. So this is my board, Like,
and I could represent you know, the logan Pulson fighting
Lumberjacks or whatever. Right, Fred has a different board, and

(34:20):
this is where, like, this is where the pre draft
information stuff comes in, because I'm trying to figure out
what the value of Kenyan Sadik is as the as
as the Lumberjacks, you know what I'm saying. So like
if Fred has them at five and I'm picking at seven,
and I know I don't really value Kenyon Sadik, but
Fred is all over it.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Maybe that's a good trade trade and it fits.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
For Fred but doesn't fit for me, right, And I
think that's where everyone talks about silly season, misinformation season.
That's another thing too, is it's like Tanna might feel
differently about the receiver order than I do, and I
got to try to figure out what Tanna thinks so
then I can sell to Tanna.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Right, Listen, It's like I found three us go shopping together.
We all know we're gonna get shirts, pants, and shoes,
but we don't like all type stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right, So that's good. That's kind
of my first two tier, my fourth and fifthier in
the draft from fifteen to thirty two. And we're just
trying to kind of give you an exercise here to
show what an NFL team is thinking about, right, Mine
is not as detailed as theirs is, Like they have
analytics and numbers and data and all this stuff, reports
and highlight reels and every single guy. We're just trying

(35:26):
to give you a little breakdown here. So let's get
to break number two boys. And I got a couple
of reads.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
You ever read here?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I do, so, you know, isn't it strange people really
want to save money but so willing to toss their
hard arm coin into a three foot pool of disappointment.
You don't need to throw your money away. All you
need is your phone, go to Geico, get a quote,
and you could say nine hundred with your phone. It

(35:54):
feels good to save some coin. It feels good to Geico.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
So it was nice for I feel like that was
just very like kind of like your friendly neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Spider man, yeah to me, a little bit like mister
Rogers to me, Yeah, mister Rogers.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
This isn't feel good on coin.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Okay, so let's talk about.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, have you ever stole money out the wish? Well?
Have you? I have? Yeah, I'm not ashamed to say.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I don't even come up in my mind. I don't
walk by there and say, oh, opinion.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
You know when the snowballs used to cost twenty five?
Let me get that out? You have you what said?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
There's a movie where like oh gosh, where the kid
is swimming around with the snorkel.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, and the thing just getting all.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
The money out of there. Listen, it's free money. Now,
you ain't stilling nobody wish? I mean you kind of
are you left this wish in this pool?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
What do you think they do with the money? Somebody
has to take it out of it? Oh? I know
what I do it. You know what I'm saying? Like,
whoever owns that well? Or if that? I think at
one point they collected and let us fill it up again. Yeah,
probably a guy like me come around and be like,
you need.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Coins in there?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Though?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
If you take too many coins out knowing.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Nobody know what, But most definitely you cannot say you
ain't had to urge.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I think I think it's someone I think if you
own that, see a fun out of that which we
know only in shopping plasmas or just in like I
think if someone has to say, you know what, I'm
going out there and get all the big coins and
leave the pennies in there so people will have the
urge to do it. But listen, someone, someone's taking that money.
I'm not I'm not surprised you want to.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I would picture tent right next to this wishing well
and everything homeless man.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Picture this homeless man sitting there with an umbrella in
the chair and say with a sign, don't forget to.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Punch you make your wish because you go home. We
gonna get my food.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Dude. Well, when you said that, and just like, bro,
it just reminds me of like a like a dad
and a son. And it's like, you know, he's at
the food court. I'm just so Shay and his hamburger
or whatever he's eating, and then he just looks over
He's like, oh like Freds and the well just so
just walk.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Walking across the tables going to the whee. I'm just saying, man,
it's very tempting.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I've always said it take a real man to walk
past the wishing wheel and don't don't have no bad.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Doubt, old man.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
They take a real man. Come on, it's free money.
So you say you have a bad thought. That bad
thought is to steal. I'm finna get.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
WI just takes it like taking this cauld You imagine
taking his shoes off, and then just see Fred pulling
this type of Jesus.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Look, I can imagine him not caring what they say
because he's doing in broad.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I do not care.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
When I leave this thing, I'm going to that change
machine that you didn't pull the change in, and they
give you dollars. Listen, man, y'all can't say I know
y'all good guys. I know you go to church. I understand,
but you cannot say you ain't up at the church.
You lived at that at one time and said, you
know what, it's free because it is free.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I never thought of it. Don't say right there, don't
get the change. It never happened.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
I've always walked by and said, man, boy, I wish
I was the person getting all them coins, but I
never thought about going.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
But they never had a sign and say don't reach
in here and get coins. Yeah, but just like you
almost know, just not to do it, like that's not
my wish.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I need to sign to see when I was young,
you guys might have done this for me.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
So I remember my parents, we didn't eat out a
ton together like we did at the house or whatever,
and we went to like an old school diner, and
you know with the old school diner, like you just
leave the cash on the table.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, So I was.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I got up and I was walking my posts and
I was behind them, and I was like, there's five
bucks on the table. Oh, there's someone left to ten
right here.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
You're still away.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
So I just walked down and went up to my
mom and I was like, Mom, look at all this money.
And my mom was like, oh my god, you're gonna
put that back? And I was like, for what Look
what Thats what I'm saying, like you.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
At that point because you had no IM so I thought.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
It was just money, you know, like someone to look like.
I thought someone had forgotten money, like let like lefter.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Walton totally understand I ain't squeaky clean. I will say
this since I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
About coming on out now he've been it ain't been
no boullars five.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
The only thing I've done that lead up to you
still in the corner at the fountain, you taking people tips.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I put it back.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
I can tell you I could count on one hand
how many times when the church. As a young you
know about the serving plate.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
So my grandma would give me five dollars. I'm gonna
give away one. I'm not getting like this is, but
you're not getting all my five dollars I'm taking home.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
She gave you that for the law. I didn't know it.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I just knew that she gave me five.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
You know, she ain't give me the bottle bill. She
don't mean.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
She means the plate come around multiple times, put a
dollar every time.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
It only came around one time. I was only enough
for one time. It stole from the church's money. They
kicked you out of a little bit of that. It's
just not knowing. It's just not knowing. I was young.
But you're you're proactively found out.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
When I got home because my mom like where you
got the money from. I'm like, oh, Grandma gave it
to him. You're like, boy, I would to go on
that plate.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I said all of it. She said, yeah, next time
you've been putting the plate. Yeah, you know. No, Listen,
when they were handing the play around, I was like, yeah,
there's money here. They don't need all that. I know.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
The church got enough money, man, so nah. But it's
just it's one of those things of being naive, no knowing.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
You don't know he know, damn well, what the hell
he doing seven years old waiting in those If you
see Fred at the supermarket, waiting in the fountain, please
let us know.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Listen, it's pictures of me stealing out of founts all.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Over them there, all over America.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
And I can see one of the fans going, put
an AI picture of you doing that this.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Listen, dude, setting that in place. Maybe, Like I said,
they were glad. I even scruggled because I know some hacks.
I know some legit hacks.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
All right, Oh, man, dude, he's got like a little
circuit of I bet man, No, I just know he is.
All right, let's get to the top what is it,
top two to top three tiers? Sorry, I'm just messed
up there. Review those real quick, and this is important
cause that's where the commanders are picking potentially, right, Yes,
we are just as a reminder, this is my personal board.
I have no inside knowledge on what the commanders are

(42:29):
actually doing.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
No we, none of us do. I'm tired of people
don't ask me. Who draft has asks me? They don't
let Fred Peters know live. Fred Peters is crazy by you,
oh man? What you got? All right? Well in your
top tier? All right?

Speaker 8 (42:44):
Do I have any objections of how do I feel?
Because it's really the top two tiers. So let me
let me read this off so fourteen Jeron McCoy from Tennessee.
I love it, ACL I know you do.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
So you probably stalked about that thirteen Spencer final tackle
from Utah. Twelve cornel tape waters from our state. Eleven
Dylan Thieneman. We'll talk about that in a second. Ten
Reuben Baines junior from Miami defensive end. Eight Francis Marinoa
offensive tackle from Miami. And seven man sort of lane
from LSU. Six r of l Ris, Ohio State, Caleb Downs,

(43:16):
Ohio State, David y Texas Tech, sunny styles. A lot
of Ohio State boys in here boys, a lot of.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
That's how Drea Yuley looked with Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
The one thing I can say Ohio State do a
good job with they recruit.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Specimens they do this year especially. I'm not not even.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Gonna hate on Blue Foot when Bluefoot came out, Bluefoot
with a specimen like Nate Clemens, when we came out
Me and Santana Clay like they they dudes look like
football players and nothing else.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, well, I mean that's what they're doing. They're playing football.
Two on a little bit of a quarterback bump Fernando
Mendoza from Indiana, and then number one player on my
board is Jeremiah Love.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
From Yeah, I don't have many that I object to.
I would trade five, which is Caleb Downs and probably
move him where Francis MANNOA is a lot of people
would and I would trade, and I would put male
Noah at five. I would probably put no I'm pretty

(44:13):
much good with everybody else.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
You don't like though, or maybe don't.

Speaker 8 (44:16):
You're right, he want no guy that we talked about
this before, so.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Jump off the screen. But if you on his if
you a teammate of he is, if you coaching him.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know what you got. Ye Like, He's gonna always
be where you need him to be. He assignment guy.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
And he's and he's played post safety, he's played box safety,
he's played true nickel, he's played diamelnebacker like he's literally
he plays all over the defense there at Purdue.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Think he's Harrison from Uh the Biker.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
So that's a good question. I think he's a good tackler.
The thing is the angles. But he runs a four
to three, like legit four three, So he takes all
the like he's running like he looks like he's like
snaking around. Yeah he's gonna get there, you know what
I'm saying. So I think he brings some of that
flexibility to a defense. I think people have been mocking
him quite a bit too Minnesota. I was picking in
low teens eighteen maybe, so I could see that. But

(45:06):
I think like the flexibility he brings, I think someone's
going to value. I think he's a really high talking
about managing risks, right, I like you talk about he's assignment sound,
brings a ton of flexibility and checked all of the
athletic testing numbers right. Like he has a great interception
versus Penn State where he's like playing on the far hash.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Know what he gets it.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
So again, not the perfect player, but I think he
just he checks a lot of boxes. Feel really confident
about him, and you.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Feel, oh, you guys on Francis Man, the tackle from Miami.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
So I was he was my third player when I
started doing this, and I think I just had a
couple of questions about his ability to play tackle in
the league. Like the more I watched him, I was like,
your feet are good, sometimes you're overextending, like sometimes the
length shows up. I think you can play tackle in
the right system, but you might be a better guard.
And so if you're moving a guard, like how high
do you take a true guard?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I think he's a really good football player I have
in terms of confidence, I have very confident he's going
to be a good football player. I just know if
it's going to be a tackle or a guard.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
If Tennessee takes him at four, are you surprised, because
don't forget him and camp Ward playing together.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, I would be a touch surprise because he would
be playing guard for them, right or you moving?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Jac did they draft more?

Speaker 1 (46:18):
They so Morris playing left tackle for them?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Uh? What's the guy from Northwestern who has the crazy
last name? He's playing? Yea, yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's playing
left guard for them. Jac Latham was a former first
round Picker's playing right tackle maybe right guard. So unless
he's going to play right tackle, Latham in and to
be him and Jacy Latham are really similar prospects, so
I would be surprised. So, like, if you want to

(46:42):
talk about what I think is going to happen in
the top five, quarterback at one, I think Arvo reesa two.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
This Jeremiah Love at three is getting so much smoke.
I think they want to trade out of it. I
think they badly want to trade out of it. But
this is what i'd say.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
This is why they can see the cart and was
taking him at three knacks.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
See it's getting them at it's getting this. It's getting
some heat. Man.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
But so I'm gonna say three, that's what I think.
I think they go Edge Rusher at four. I think
they go David Bailey at four. And then because they
because the Giants Tannem they got that other pick in the.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Top ten, they're gonna take Sunday stands.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
They're gonna take Sunny Styles.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna throw up when they take
Sunday Style right there, I'm gonna throw.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Up in my mouth, just throw up at the stadium,
just bombing, all right. And then I think I think
Cleveland wants to trade out. I think Dallas will trade
up if one of the if R L. Reese or
Sunny Styles is there. If not, they'll stick and pick.
And I think the Jets may want to trade up
at seven four, Colonel Tape, That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
If that's what the Jets won't, I would do it.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
I'm just telling you because what they got sixteen, they
got sixteen, so they got.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Two and sixteen.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I'm gonna take your sixteen, but I also want your
thirty four.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, you have to get a second round which is
the first round pick. Yet give me that now we
can dance. Yeah. I would love this team pick. I've
been saying from day one. Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
I love all these guys that that's that projected to
go where we have a pick at. But I just
don't see us not having that second round pick. Like
it's just it's odd to see that we're gonna pick
in the first round and we ain't gonna see nothing
pick until the third round.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
That's hard for me to believe.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, and so I think if they can get that done,
if they want to come out for Cornel Tape, I think.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
That's fine, we can have it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
But for me, like again, man Sword Delane would be
the guy at seven. If Sonny styles.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Something about that Jet sixteen pick, I wonder why it's
always always ring and always rings.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Oh my god, was good.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
I got to tap into my friends smoke. I'll be
around you long enough.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
What's interesting, though, like is seven feels a little rich
for a receiver like I like Colonel Tape and he's just.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
What I've been saying.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
It's odd for me because every time I have to
talk about it, I'm like, I'm not trying to be
little to.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Man Town because I think he's but.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
It's just hard for me to see that anybody's gonna
shoot that high for a receiver that was the second
on his his team.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, you know what
I mean. You're wrong.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
He might be first in his class or might be
in the top of his class, but you was second
on you that we got as young as.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
One when one a Yeah, and it's not no knock
on him because he played phenomenally.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
He was a guy that went out there and huge things,
you know, when opportunity. I think he only had what
four drops in three years? So, but the guy can ball.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I do think you get to sixteen and all of
a sudden, Omark Cooper Junior, Mikayle Lemon, Jordan High.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
John Man, I ain't gonna lie. I just like it.
He's explosive now.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
If he can stay, if he can stay healthy in
this league, bro, he's got a promising career.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I think of one of that you might know this
is Jameson Daniels. Did he play with him? Or is
that he too young?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Because he was Brandon was a JD five wide receive.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
So and then the other question I wanted to just
a dress here is feel like, well, how did you
decide the tears?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Like? Tier one is Jeremiah Love for Sunny Stouse.

Speaker 9 (49:59):
I think the has Bailey not in that tier so
to me, Sunny Styles, I have very few questions about
checked all the physical markers right like the film was good.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
He improved from twenty twenty four twenty twenty five. Jeremiah
Love has been a thousand yard rusher two years in
a row at Notre Dame and Fernanda Mendoza this last year.
He's a quarterback, gets a little bit of a bump.
David Bailey best pass rusher in the class, I think,
hands down.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
But do you see him as just a pass rushing
I think he's good against run.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I don't think he's great, And so that's why he's
in the second tier for much. Right, and again, like
we're talking about yeah pointing here, Yeah, my fourth rated player, right,
you know what I'm saying. But I do think there's
a difference between those three and then the next four.
And I think David Bailey, Caleb Downs. You mentioned Caleb Downs. Yeah,
he's not in the first tier because of he didn't
run a forty and he didn't measure great. Yeah, so

(50:49):
but the film is so damn good. Yeah, So I'm
just like he's in here. Rvel Reese, we talked about this, like,
I think he's one of maybe the best athlete in
the class. Yeah, but he's switching positions. Yea, So how
confident could I be in that? And then manswore Tulaine
to me is one of the easiest evaluations he made.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
He cleaned prosptly clean, super.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Clean, ran well, play zone, and Manuel got good balls
he could. He is a ballplayer on there.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
They asked him to do a whole different game playing
at Virginia Tick than they asked him to do a
L s U.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
So they proves what he can do.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Like when you say, way around the corner, I can
play man and man if you need me too.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I can zone up if you need me to.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
So that's kind of how I view that and how
I come to those. And then you say, oh, the
next tier is eight to fourteen. Just a few more questions, right,
you know, we talked about the guard tackle thing Van guyone.
I think might be the most consistent offensive lineman in
the class, but he plays guard right ruben Bain, there's
the arm blank from there's the.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Field, yeah, just the kind of you know, there's stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah, but at ten and then theeneman we talked about.
I think he's really solid, but the angles, like he's
different than Caleb Downs, you know what I'm saying, Colonel Tate.
We talked about some of the reservations Spencer final from
the attack from Utah. Really outstanding player, outsanding athlete, but
a little undersized and might be a guard like so
a little farther down the board, and then drama Drahn
McCoy would probably be in would probably be in the

(52:08):
second tier. Yeah, but didn't play football in twenty twenty five. Yeah,
So that's kind of how you do it. You just
kind of say, who are my most confident, a little
bit less confident, a little bit less, and then obviously
that grows as you go down the board. So that's
the way I see the top couple of picks. And
if you want to see that full top one hundred
list that is on the Commander's website. Hopefully it's out
by now.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Would King miss the door would be higher if he
went old.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
So I think a team is really good and I
and I put him here like irregard like kind of
not thinking about the age. I think he's just a
really solid player.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I think he's a good pass rusher. Yeah, I think
he might he's a better pass rusher than Falk, but
I think Keldric Falk the length, the size.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
The plus he's nineteen.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think he's a.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Guy guy twenty six and nineteen. Yeah, he's a fine command.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
I'm not trying to knock because he's a hurricane. So
I want to see him have a long career. But
some guys going into that second contract at twenty six.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
You know, I mean, he's gonna be thirty.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
It is crazy to think about it. So when he
gets off.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
His rink, he was twenty eight when we got Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
But when he gets off his rookie deal, he probably
thirty one years old.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, he's gonna be thirty something years old. That's I'm
holding out.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
After this sink, I'm holding out man held out as
a second round.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
To him, I did not come to camp. I was like,
I was supposed to win. Well, use the first round
and get paid like it you can get what Yeah,
they paid. Mary Jane puts you in the segam round.
Blame her, Blame her.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
The other thing I wanted to mention real quick before
we move on, this is the last thing, is these
tackles Monroe, Freeling, Caden Proctor, Okay to me, biggest wild
cards in the draft because I think I know, I
know that Cleveland wants to draft one of those guys.
I know they do, but they're at what is that
twenty one and twenty.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Two for me?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, and where's uh Cleveland picking six?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Saying high? What I'm saying like everyone's.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Like, are they gonna trade out?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, they want to trade out. They're gonna do everything
they can to trade out because they I've heard that
they would draft King Proctor or Monroe Feeling at six,
which is crazy work to me.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Listen, I told you one person got like it. This
is not about all thirty two team like you that
My agent told me that from day one. He like,
I was like, man, I went out thirty two.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
No, you need one.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Team to So keep an eye on those two names,
specifically for Cleveland at six, and then I think that
might spark a trade down with Dallas if Rvel Reees
Sunny Styles stole on the board.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Big.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
If I really think those guys are gonna go, say.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Them guys gonna be gone. They already what house they
live like Rees and I already moved his stuff to
New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
The one scenario that I wanted to bring up for
Commanders fans that would make me excited. Okay, we talked
about quarterback Marvel Reese and then we go if who
is picking so they go Love right?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Oh okay, you're saying that Jets right, And then you.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Say Arizona goes Love and then Titans go Sunny Styles. Okay,
the Giants aren't drafting an edge, and Cleveland's probably not
drafting an edge. David Bailey, come on down.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
So it's the I'm gonna tell you what it is.
It's the David Bailey Jeremiah Love situation.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
It's really it's really the three guys. It's David Bailey,
it's really the Sunny Styles and R l Res are
the two cogs that gonna make this thing go because
if one of those guys fall, Washingt's gonna be in
a good position to trade back. If they don't fall,
hopefully they pushed someone else down the board. David Bailey,
let's get this thing cooking.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Oh listen, run it up there, run up, running up there.
Let him wear eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
If you got run that thing up thinking.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
If he said, hey, if he if David Bailey called you,
Tanna said can I.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
He got called a tight end went and I said, hey.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I thought they were retired. No, that's the ring of honor. Yeah,
that was my number that they retired because of me
and Ken Houston. They had to retire it too.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Salm, you ain't noticed that too, Salm, don't get war right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I know they'd be having it eighty two out there.
I see eighty two.

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for a second. Friend, you're scared, I'm out here with goats.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Meet up by knack.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
Goats got a new champion to make it felt that.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
A new champion in the making. What I'm all about?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Let's go a US Army Fred. They say your work
defines who you are. It does Monday through Friday, nine
to five. You're clocking in, Well, what happens on the weekend?
What happens to your time? You could take it easy,
or you could use that time to get better in
the US Army, we think differently. Your time should be
used to improve the skills you do have to learn
something you don't, to push yourself in new ways, because

(57:38):
it's those days that truly define who you are. That's
how you make progress, Fred, and that's how you make
an impact on the world around you. It's your time,
how you spend it's up to you. It's your time.
The US Army Reserve hoorrah.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Hey, you got a new champion in to make it.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Say good friend.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Look, I'm sorry man, you only held on it for
one show.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
It won't be yours next week.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
All I know is this the Big ten ain't yet
and it ain't been represented in the th won't be
rush the sec goats meet.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Yeah, man, you just you just got you just gotta
You just got a little taste of that goat.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
So a little taste goat's milk. It ain't even care
goat smell.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I don't even drink regularly with my serious goat's milk.
Give me cam crunching goats.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Mill just want to be great, all right. So now
it's on to final draft predictions. What do you expect
on draft nights? This is kind of like superlatives or whatever.
I'm gonna read something. I'm gonna leave a blank and
then you fill it in. Okay, I got you. The
commanders select blank. The defense might be top ten in

(58:48):
the league. Fred, I'm gonna start with you.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
You know what I used to have is SSM Pollo
went out and that thing boy, I used to tap
that gage just a little bit zero to one hundred
four second, right, And the one thing I know about Sunday.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Styles zero two one hundred and four seconds.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
If we drave Sunday Styles, we will have a top
tier defense.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Check it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Really, yes, really, he's that much of a Fred Warner
When you insert a Fred Warner into a defense with
edges already, into a defense with interior linemen already, and
to a defense that say, Nick Kraus coming down back there,
top ten defense.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Dude, I'm kind of sold on that.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Actually too good, you say, I say Styles on my
man downs one other.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Dude. I think both of them fill a void that
we have, you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
I feel like we have some capable safeties. We have
two good ones. We will have Nicks across Nick Cross.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I got funny stirred about Nick Cross. That got me. No, no,
we was out. We was out somewhere. He came up,
came up to we had a Howard game.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
And I don't want to get off the track, but
I got to tell the stir So we had a
Howard guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Just watch my nephew playing on spring game. And Nick,
you know how.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
You look at players and you're like, here a football
here football player. Boy traps about the boy side of
his dog on shirt and he's like, I want to
take a picture with You're teor man?

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
He said, tenor man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Some I'm like somebody that knows me something. He said,
how you like that boy, Nick Cross? I like, I
like him, But at the time, you know, I was,
I was. I was on one the whole weekend, so
I was like, I like him. And then I went
to talking about our defense as a whole. But I'm like, well,
I know he got to be on our defense. I
just not knowing this is Nick Cross I'm talking to you.
So he was like, all right, man, I just want

(01:00:36):
to say what's up to your man? All and the
big fan since I was a jit, and I'm saying
to myself, man, I know him from somewhere. I can't
tell you his name. He was like, telling, you don't
know who I am. And I looked at the lady.
I was like cross, I said, I just sit here
and talk to I'm glad he's talking you in third,
no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
But now you be messing me up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
And I was like, man, you got me, man, I say,
I say, you know, football player. We all look alike.
You can tell I can walk in and look you.
He was a football player. But I hadn't seen you
enough outside your uniform, yeah to know that was Nick I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Talking and from the area from there, so he yeah.
But I meantly told him. I said, man, bro, I
had just heard your story.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
There's a couple of you know, a weeks prior to
you coming to the team, about growing up being fans
of that twenty twelve you know, being fans of the
team first and foremost, but that twenty twelve seeds.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
He talked about r G three and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
And I'm like, I probably ain't pitching to the TV
long enough to know how you look, because you was
you was you was in playing clothes then. But he
got me, man, I was I left good for her,
saw it up real quick, like, damn, I'm over here drunk.
I ain't no, my damn boy. Nick was how that
when you see met the city, I said, I got.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
You, bro most deaf was awesome. Good for him, cool
kid man. Also that your birthday, Yes it was, I
got it. I ask you about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Well, I got young, I got Benjamin buds and disease.
So soon or later du be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
A golf tournament early on his birthday. I saw that
he was early, right, yeah, I'd be a baby in
no time. Again, hey listen, hey, what did you so?

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
So he went to tennis golf tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
That was the day of right, Yeah, okay, I had
so much fun. By the way, I got my golfing partner,
jannar Off of Pole.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Was the force. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
So it was like his second time of a golfing,
which he golfed way of second time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
So he's he's enjoying it. We enjoyed it. I had
some McKellan twelve. I think I had.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
McAllen, yeah, McAllen, yeah, and listen to me blind the
whole weekend black now, well, we had a good pre
birthday celebrations leading into it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
That Friday night that what I'm saying, won the weekends
for you?

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
One the weekends Sunday, Yeah, you know, you just get
on the couch.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I didn't put on the like a one. I'm out
at nothing, get it. I couldn't get nobody nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Sunday Sunday, my behind got up and still was at
the gym. But I was done though. I was done
from the weekend. I was surprised though, because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
As much as I hung out, I'm like, what was
it that? Not having me hungover? No? No twelve shots,
So I have to make sure.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
So we had different companies that wellness that sponsored certain holes,
and we got to that one hole. I'm sorry if
I can't remember your name right now, I will find
out because I'm gonna be calling you for some more
of those be twelve shots man. We got to be
twelve shot and I knew the first night that night
when that day I got it. After that night, I

(01:03:40):
woke up the next morning like y'all ready to go again?
And I'm like, what is it that got me feeling
like the twenty three? Because normally I don't want to
go to bed after a long night, let alone a
long day and night.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
So yeah, it's to be twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I think I saw you at like ye ten, you
saw me maybe eleven because I had.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
To work already, and I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
It was like just you know, it gets all happy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, yeah, listen, we enjoyed our seven. Yeah, I said,
like it was my birthday and it was his mama birthday. Yeah,
we share a birthday, so most definitely birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Great event. So right, and let's get to the next one.
If the commanders select blank, then we might be the
best offense in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Love.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
I think that's at seven. That's the answer. I will
also say at seventy one, keep an eye out for
ted Hurst, keep an eyeut for de Shawn Stribbling, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
You love Scribbling? I do love him. I love him.
That's my can't stop talking. I think he's in my top,
like you've.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Got him behind anybody scribbling scribbling on him?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Other receivers At seventy one, macay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
No, say what about your boy Boston?

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
You don't like him that I think he'll be going
Wait before seventy one, Yeah, for seventy on seven one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Kai mckaif fields mallaid from Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I think it hears from Georgia State man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
You know what's crazy though, I was talking to Jerry
mcgreen the other day, like on the phone, and he
was just saying, like we were both saying, I think
he goes in the second round. I think too many
people are like high on him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
What about old boy we was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
From Chris Brazil is another one?

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
It's Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah, but I'm talking about old boy from uh Louisville.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Oh, Chris Bell, Chris No, Chris Bell and the other
to do Chris Bell the biggest kid? Yeah? Yeah, what's
the six to five kid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
From Louisville from Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Cincinnati?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yeah, Jeff Colwell will I think you can get him later.
But for those of you who don't know, Jeff Caldwell
six five and a half, Yes, two twenty ran a
four to three run with the WI forty inch vertical
eleven three broad jump. Just so you know, all those
numbers are Elite nine point ninety nine and RAS sixty
five O three six five and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Bro put it. I put ten fifteen pounds on the right. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I haven't play d you'll till that man rushed the
passer a little bit. So I'm saying at seventy one,
I do think there are players there. Another one is
Bryce Lance and again seventy one might be a touch high.
But dude can absolutely fly and in this offense with
all the play actually run getting somebody down the field
in a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Hurry, take the top out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Also your guy too from Mississippi State, Ringan Thompson, Dude,
I watched him the other day and he runs tanna.
Yeah he runs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Good routes to be fast.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Yeah, to be fast like that and run that way.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
He ain't choppy, he's smoove tanna.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
It's crazy. I was watching him versus L L s U.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
First play runners a go I'm talking like, walks off
on this dude, and I was like, damn. Next play
runs a dig. So the guy thinks he's running vertical,
throws the brakes on guys running like damn, And I
was like, okay.

Speaker 9 (01:06:51):
No, he could stop. Yeah. He's not very big. He's
like five Eight'll talk.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
To you five to ten. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Yeah, so he's like he's very small first, but he
is explosive. I actually kind of like him better.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
So that that kid from the Giants went to the
tandaya no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
No, he talked about Rundale run deal. Yeah, No, he
ain't thick like that. Oh smaller than that. He's small.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
He's a small he's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
He's around five eight, right, Like he's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Like one sixty maybe. Yeah, your mind's like Tank Dell
like that type of body time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
If Tank Dale can stay healthy, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
So like if he was, if he was bigger, he'd
be in the top sixty for me. But like he
I don't know. But anyway, But so my point is
the answer at seven is Jeremiah Love. Yeah, one hundred percent.
The answer at seventy one is probably one of those
receivers we just talked about it. Or I'm gonna throw
another name at your fred A guy, Mike Washington from Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
You love it running back, dud, Do you have you
seen it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
No, that's he runs tough and he runs a four
to three. Yeah, and he's two thirty and think yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Like he's think thick.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
He's a tough I see why the offense was explosive
because that quarterback ran fast and then having him when
you got that kind of threatened backfield from the quarterback
and you're running back and you know in college.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Oh it's fair game. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Wings, Hey, we need you to get a hundred yards
on the ground, quarterback, we need you to get a
hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
So I can just imagine how those guys was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
The dude watching them that offense. Like, so I watched
the A and M game. Taylor Green looks like an
absolute mute in that game, like his ability to like
they have an all out pressure and he breaks contained
like deep contained in the in the end zone and
runs for sixty.

Speaker 9 (01:08:27):
Yards just outruns the whole out. And like, if I
was that OC people, I don't who.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
That guy is, Bobby Petrino, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Would have been like, hey man, we're gonna run quarterback power,
We're gonna run a quarterback outside zone everything.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I've been doing this all day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Well, they did a lot of that, but they only
ran it. They only ran one kind of like zone read,
and I'm like, bro, we gotta get he's got to
touch the ball more.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
If we want to win games, I want him handling
the ball as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Oh shoot, so yeah, so running back you know later
in the round, like Mike Singleton from State. Yeah, the
explosiveness is exciting, but in terms of running back that
I would think at seventy one, probably not gonna be there.
But Mike Washington would be a guy just through out there,
right the commander. If the commanders select blank, then I
will be hyped. Bang for me, dude, So people sleep

(01:09:18):
on this and I won't want to offend defend my Guytana.
I like the mindset. I like that dude who looks
like he eats raw meat. Yeah he does, and just
is there to just kick ass and take names.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
I truly believe, regardless of where he goes, but I
will be crunk if he comes through these doors because
I'm telling you, I know what he's going to do
for this team, like any team he's on, but specifically ours.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Man, I can just see that guy going out there.
You know I would be high.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
You know I'm about You know I like names, right,
you know I believe our football players.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
You have a football name? Yeah? Due in this top ten,
who has the most football name and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
The most football name? I got a look now before we.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
We like this, who have a name you ain't never
said before? Before you say it in name?

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Shoot, let's see. I mean Bain is a good name.

Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
Bane period is a good name, but it's mant Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Yeah, because you know know what a Mentel so about you,
I'm goin to go with Mantell how Man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
So it's noting like Game of Thrones. Yeah, I'm just
saying Mansoel ready to play football. Man's wackedness, Laney this
football name right there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
So if that guy gets old, now I'm happy because
now between him, Trey Amos and Sandra Still you got
your dB.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
So yeah, Bain mansor de Lane love that. By the way,
Obviously any of the edges would be stoked. I don't
know if they get their sunny styles would be stoked.
A realistic one would be Caleb Downs for me, that's
all right, all right, And I just think his resume
and the film.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Cake Miss as long as he hell, he gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Good, unimpeachable in terms of just the mental activienty brings,
the physicality, plays with the instincts like I'd be stoked
if he.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Was here as a very much earl Thomas.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yeah good feel there, good feel all right. Well, I
think that's it. So guys, just as a reminder, this
is just a fraction of the draft coverage. We're gonna
get On Draft night Thursday, we will have an hour pregame.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Draft coverage everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
And so Panna and the crew are going to be
in Pittsburgh. You're going to be at the stadium, We'll
be here locally in the building. I will be And
so we're gonna cover everything you want to know about
the Commanders for an hour before. Yeah, we got breakdowns,
we've got top tens, we got the whole thing, whatever
you want. And then obviously we have live fifteen minute
coverage of the pick and we get interviews all that
kind of special stuff. So if you are a Commander's fan,

(01:11:46):
which you are, makes you please check that out. But
for today's show, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Well, next time we see y'all, we have new members.
That is the Commanders, new jerseys you got to buy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
That is great. Yeah, that's exciting for sure. In the meantime,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I've belding.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
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