WR Mount Rushmore, Season 2 for Jayden Daniels & Olympic Football Dream Teams

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Speaker 2 (01:28):
After you get finished playing eighteen holes, you've had a
good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We've had a good day.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, and now we get to talk about OTA's and
what's coming up for the upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
So let's just start with a general question, like when
it comes.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
To the off season, when it comes to OTAs like
this is this is good work, but it's not necessarily
the work that you want to do. You want to
be ready for you want to be ready for training
camp every season. So how hard is it to stay
motive and say this is the important stuff right here?

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I think different strokes for different folks. I was one
of those guys that I had to be there. I
had to see the I had to see my fellow teammates.
I had to see the coaches. I wanted to put
the work in and make sure they eyes saw it.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know, no matter how old I was in my game,
or you know how much of a veteran I was,
I wanted them to see the work.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So when I.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Left there for that little extended period right before training camp,
they had a good mindset on what I was bringing
to the table come training camp. So I love this
time in the period because I feel like when I
get there and I'm being around the fellas putting in
the work, at least I'm leaving something on the table
for the coach and say, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Not worried about this guy. Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I think this time is actually more for the players
than it is the coaches. Think about this, like, at
this time of the year, we actually chill more off
the field than we do on the field. This is
when we become a family. This when we become friends.
This when we become more than like everybody's worried about
the fifty third guy on the roster, we actually get
cool with the seventy six guys on the roster.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
If we want him to make it a free house. Yes,
this is when we would come eighteen.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
This is paramount to what they finna be right now,
because this is not about plays, This is not about
being in shape.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
This is about relationships.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
In relationship, the best, the best individuals never win the
Super Bowl. The best team wins the Super Bowl. And
this is when you become a team.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
What do you learn in OTAs as opposed to training
camp that maybe you don't get elsewhere when it comes
to practicing.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I think if you've been on the team for a
while with the same staff, you could pick on something
the thing you could pick up on some of the
things that probably nuances that you just didn't know about
the playbook, Like, let's be real, like, is it also too.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Like you just kind of grow closer to because it's
just another year together.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, you lay in the play I don't need to
relearn something I learned.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
See, I was one of those guys that I paid
close attention to what I had to do once I
had a downpack. Now I'm gonna move on and learn
his job. Once I get that, I'm gonna learn his job.
So you know, if you ask me that question as
a guy been on the team, for three years now,
same system. I just learned somebody else's position. I just
I just I took my time to say, hey, I'm

(04:01):
caught up on minds. Let me go find out what
this guy do. So I know when this player is called.
At least I know what the other guy because I
know the receivers. Now, let me learn what the lineman
doing this protection.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
So how does that help you?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Because like Josh Connelly, Jenner is a guy we've heard
about a lot where Okay, he knows his position, but
even when he was in Oregon, he wanted to know
what every dude on the offense was doing. So how
does that help you as a player saying Okay, I
know my job, but I know your job as well.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
One of the things that worked for me, especially when
I got late in my career, I remember being in
the slot coming into games and I got Pierre on
the outside and he's one of our free agency pickups,
and I'm telling him I'm patting behind like, hey, ball
coming to you. Yeah, I'm looking at coverages like I
just knew it now, because I guess my football IQ.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Was on another level.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
You know, I was much older, or I had to
use more of my brain than my gears. Now I'm
on fifth for sixty years old down and it slow
down for me.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
So you know, it.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Helps a lot because now you can see the game
before the hike of the ball, and I think the
game is won here more so than it is athletically
or so if you.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Know the game.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
That's why people people question about why Jaden Dames are
so great.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
He's athletically gifted.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Yeah, but he's smartly these things that they don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
He sees, you know, at a young age.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
So when you have a guy that's thinking beyond just
exus and o's man, that's how it's won.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, He's right.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Like at the end of the day, what made James
Damiens good is the fact that, first of all, he
played a lot of college football. Like when you play
a lot of college football, you've seen a lot of defenses.
When you've seen a lot of defenses, you see how
they gonna try to stop you. They're gonna try to
spy me, They're gonna try to do this, they gonna
try to do this, they gonna try to do this.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
So I always said.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
This class I felt like was the best class of quarterbacks.
I have ever seen in my life, because I called
them COVID babies, the COVID babies because they got that
extra year to play football. And you don't know what
an extra year would do for you as a college athlete.
It's so good that they have changed the rugs in
junior college to make it to the way your junior
college don't count no more, like they understand, let these

(06:01):
guys play football, let them learn football, and now we
get a better product once they.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Make it to the league.

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Speaker 3 (06:50):
So thank you guys for coming out. We're just getting
started here.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
So when you don't have a veteran like a Scary
Terry or someone like that or Laramie Tunsel, how big
is it that they're not here? Or is it one
of those things where you say, look, you guys have
earned the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Well, I think when you look at the I guess
what's making these guys you know, not be here. So
for for Terry, for example, you understand this money, you know,
I mean, it's business right. This guy's gonna be a
front and center. He's gonna he's gonna always show up.
When you get guys like Tansu, when you get guys
like I guess you can say a lot of more

(07:25):
those guys who come from other teams and this is
what they're accustomed to. You kind of want to bend
a little bit and say, well.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
This is what he's used to.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I'm on your side as long as you bring your
behind here when it's time to go time and be
ready to go. So that's how I look at it. Man,
I would love to see him here. But if that's
what they used to that's what makes them great, then
go be great.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
When is news not news?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Like the only reason they are news is because they
the new free agents. They're on a new team and
they not here at the end of the day. That
don't make that news. All right, we got a left
tackle that being one of the best left tackles in
the league for the last nine years.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know what you're getting in here.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Now, I know what I'm getting from you. Like Marshawn Latimer.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
You know, whatever they want to say about how he
ended the season or what he didn't do well, I
got faith in him because I understand.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
That he came in the middle of the season. He
was injured.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
When he got here, he was trying to get back
with the rest of the team and do stuff. I
understand the situation. What I want everybody else to do
is understand the situation, but don't make it Today's in
evening news.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
But tell us it's not news. Some of this though,
you get it.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
You get guys like Tunsu just got here. You just
got you know, came over here free agency. When you
want them to say, Hey, whatever I did in the past,
this is a new team. You know, it's a reset
for me. Show me something, you know what I mean,
show me what I'm getting.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Tell her you know, like I know I would reader
for that to happen that way, but that ain't the
way it always goes. Like and then we're talking about
we're talking about OTA's we're not talking about mandatory, but
we're not talking about everybody needs to be accountable. Everybody
needs to be here. Like once you see JD five there,
that's all that matters to me, Like whatce the quarterback
is there? Everything else falls in line after him. Tompson

(09:09):
did what you gotta do, because I understand some of
these guys we traded for they also want new deals.
Like they're not just here to just play football. It's
a business part of that. And I'm not willing to
go into the business part of that because I never
did when I was playing. I let everybody individually handed
they business because that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
And also one thing we do know is that this
is huge for the rookies, right like the Vets.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Let me Tellson, we know what he can do. Terry McCluin,
we know what he can do.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
But if you're a Josh Connor, if you're a Trey Amos,
like the early returns on these guys are that they
look really sharp.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, the thing about Trey Amos I really do love.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Like I was telling Tanne before we got on here,
he's a wide receiver at cornerback. He understands the cornerback
receiver because he understands wide receivers. He understand who he's playing,
why he's playing, what he's doing. He loves the press,
he's loan, and his ball skills are off. The thing
Conningly is what I really do love about him is
when you get a offensive lineman that used to play
a different position, I always say you got some special.

(10:04):
Trent Williams, if you ever played basketball with him, will
literally cross you over.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
He No, he would cross you over and talk on you.
As a three.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Hundred pounds he was on his feet, yeah, light on
his feet.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
He played running back also in high school.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
So what you got to understand is Cindently played running
back in high school. So when I get these guys
to have that athletic ability, I just want to see
it I just want to see it.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And think about this.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Cindly is three hundred and ten pounds and we're saying
he could put on my weight.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, oh yeah, that means he's an athlete.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
He's super adam. I mean he's always been.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
He was a five star dude back in high school.
What I love about that is we didn't necessarily expect
him in the first round. But the more you learn
about him, the more you listen to him. I love
when a GM does his job and then you're a
few hours, a few days, a few weeks after you said,
I see exactly like they don't listen to male Ki.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I love fred Kaich, but then I lost that name
to Logan Somewhere. He became a professor.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I don't know how did that happen?

Speaker 1 (11:09):
You don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
You know what Jay did that, Jason. He made him
the professor and made me the good rule.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's what happened.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So you mentioned Jayden and Daniels, like, what does it
mean to have this guy in his second season now?
And how do you possibly meet those expectations for me?
I feel like whenever you hear someone say, oh, I'm
worried about a sophomore or something. I'm like, listen, man,
he's played enough football. You're not gonna see any of that.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Well, we have to, we have to pay attention to
it's gonna it's gonna be brought up. That's something that
everybody's gonna talk about, whether you're Jaden Daniels or Mike Sanders. Still,
like all these guys who come into that second year,
somebody's gonna whisper it, man, so you know you.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Or be better.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
And and what I would say for a guy like Jaden,
understand that, man, the way he played last year, it's
almost to the point where you send yourself.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Bro, it's only gonna get better. But I'm saying that's why.
That's how other.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Folks they're gonna say, like, this is as good as
you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
You it's not. I'm gonna tell you why it's not.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
They haven't stopped Lamar Jackson from running in Baltimore. They
haven't done Joe Burrow from throwing in the Bengals. Well,
I gotta do both. Well, how you gonna stop It's
a defensive player. I'm telling you. When we go into
the defensive room, it ain't no he equalizes a defense.
It makes us play honest He gonna make us play honestly.
It don't matter what you got, They say, Can I

(12:30):
find something to stop him? What are you gonna stop?
You're gonna stop him from throwing? Are you gonna stop
himrom running? Pick your pawson?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
I heard folks talking about it earlier today on different outlets,
and the first thing I thought about, I said, yeah, okay, yes,
some of the things you saw last year was almost
like can he do this again? And we said the
same thing about Stroud last year and things were different
a little bit for him this year. Teams are going
to get accustomed to what you're doing. But I think
when you have a guy that has talented at both
of those guys, as long as we get better collectively,

(13:00):
then they won't lose the stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's all about what you have around them.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
I think when you see a quarterback not be able
to be successful at what Jayden shows you successfull last year,
it's because the guys around them, And I think we
got better around him. That's why I don't see them
you know, coming you know, coming back from things they
did last year.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
How much do you like how this team is built
around Jane as far as building, putting the pieces in place,
particularly on office, to make sure he can be more protected,
more affective.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Where they went reinforced the offensive line.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, let's start there, all right, Let's start with the
Philadelphia Eagles. The Philadelphia Eagles are the best team in football,
no matter if we want to say it or not.
They are the Super Bowl win the champions. They are
what we are measured by. All Right, we lost trench
warfare with him in the playoffs, right, they beat us
up in the trenches.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Guess what we went did.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
We went got three hundred pounds after three hundred pounds,
after three hundred pounders after three hundred pounds. So that's
what we did. We went got big, we went got fat.
We understood what we had to do. We understood, all right,
Let's go get Larry and Thompson, one of the best
tackles in football. Let's move Colem into guard. Like we
got a Pro Bowl center. We got another Pro Bowl guard.

(14:05):
Like that gives us a chance to beat a team
that won the Super Bowl. So I think what we're
doing right now is not sexy. Right, Like, we didn't
we didn't go get pickings. We didn't we didn't do
any sexy things. We went got guys that matter, and
the guys that matter are the big boys. I always
tell you that if they don't smell like bacon, I
don't want them.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
So let's talk about this receiving corps as well, Like,
not only is Jaden protected, but now you've got so
many weapons round and it starts with Debo Now I
mean Terry of course when you talk about new additions,
now you've got the Swiss Army and.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Who can do a little bit of everything on that offense.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Well, you know, one of the things that stand out
to me is that I remember last year, coming in
the season, that was the vocal point about what we
needed to I guess you say, get better at you know,
on offensive side, our receivers, our receivers and Naga, and
we talked about the receivers. Then we got in the game,
then we was like, well, damn, you know a lot
of these guys are playing a lit better than that
we expected.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
And then Terry cought win and then everything this went.
You know, it was history. He left it behind him
once he got going coming into this season.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
You get Nord brown Back, who I thought was arguably
one of our best assets. That we had one of
the best receivers last year on the offensive side, you
get no, you get you get galloped from from Dallas,
took took a year off and say hey, I'm I'm
ready to come back motivated Bingo.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
You get this.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
You just talked about the swints, Sarmony, Knife and Debo.
I mean that along to me, changed everything the whole
trajectory around that offense as a whole. Now you just
still got a little bitccaffrey, you still got so you
have so much talent now from a year ago when
you were just scratching your head about do we need more.
So I'm high on the receivers. Not from the standpoint

(15:44):
of the names. You can say the name. I think
you got Terry and you got Debo that stood out.
That's that's proven and gallup. But when you when you
talk about the quarterback, the guy who's getting these guys
the ball, That's what makes me how on these guys
because he's going to find a guy that's open every
time and whether you an elite guy or not, gonna
make you.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
That's what I was about to say.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
When you got a force multiplier at quarterback, we watched
him make receivers look better than they were last year.
We watched him make a offense look better than it
was last year. We didn't even have a running game
in the last five games of the regular season, and
he made us have a running game. When you got
a force multiplier at quarterback, he makes everybody look better.

(16:24):
I want you to think about Tom Brady in two
thousand and one, two thousand and two with d NG
Branch and the rest of no receiver, still going to
the Super Bowl, still going to the playoffs. It didn't
matter who his receiver was. If your quarterback is a
force multiplier, everybody is better on offense.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Isn't that the ultimate compliment for a quarterback. It's just listen,
you've got the guy. Just put some pieces around him
and let him work.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
No, let him work, let him do his job. But
this is your job as a GM though. I figure
out what we got. Once we figure out what we got,
now let's give him the things he needs to succeed.
And I think that's what we're doing right now. You
said it best, like Grandmnna cook that grandma.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Get out the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
We're here, Frank Lahall, this is the get loud podcast.
Jesus move, we got Tanne with us. Thank you guys
for coming out.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
If you have questions, oh we're not done, we're just
getting going.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
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Speaker 3 (17:21):
Single jinks seven full one nine.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Thanks for coming out tonight. Yeah, that's gonna be a
great Serizon. Thank you, Thank you very much. All right,
make sure you tip here your waitresses and waiters today.
Great to have you with us. I would ask you
before we move to the defense, and are you gonna
chime in here?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I thought I saw you. I just want to make sure.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
If you want to chime in over there, I'm good.
Are you good? All right? I got you.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
People people like to make sure Anne is okay. Where's
that Ana? Why don't we heard from Anna yet?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
But if you're Cliff Kingsbury, how excited you have to
be that you have this many pieces to work with
and a second year quarterback in Jane Daniels.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
You know you know Fred has that saying, you know
I just brought it up that grum monk Cook. Yeah,
that's what I'm excited to see because you think about
last season, the second half of the season, it.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Was they already it was they was chirping Cliff normally
face and.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
He showed you with the guys that we have that
he reached a little bit in that bag and say, look, man,
I have what Fred called the force multiply. I can
lean on this guy that he's going to make sure
all these other guys get better. And when you look
at what a guy like zach Ertz did last last year,
it was at.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
One point uvenated, it was at one point he was
They said it was a stat.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
He was twenty four attempts in twenty four catch four
catchers and I think twelve of those was first down.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
So when you have guys that shown you, man that
I can beat this guy for you, and then you
get a guy like you know, Debo come in here,
you bring nor back, you get Gallup. I mean, you
get the guy that we just got Lane from Vtel
like he has he has so many weapons that he
can dig in that bag and say, now I can
reach a little bit because I also have protection also

(18:57):
going to have more protection upront from my guy Jaden
that I don't have to worry about keeping or more
blockers in the running.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Tight end, in keeping the four back, in keeping the
running back in. Now we can release five. Now, we
can release four. Now we can go vertical. Like what
they did. They gave theyself a chance to open up
the whole entire playbook. Like Kiff Kingsbury, I know it's
gonna be hard to believe for a lot of people.
He had to hold back his playbook last year because

(19:26):
we didn't have the pieces needed for him to just say,
I'm gonna call it freely. Right now he can call
it freely. We got guy that can beat you vertically.
We got guy that can beat you in the trenches.
We got guy that can get thirty and one. We
got everything he needs to just say, I'm finna open
this play book up.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Jinks they could be dangerous.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's excited to think about it. Now we're gonna talk
about the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
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Speaker 2 (20:29):
So how does it feel when you're a bulldog and
you see a guy in Trey Amus who went to
old miss Early.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I still love him. I still love him at the
end of the day.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I love him for this reason because he plays my position,
which is a very hard position. Jas It's a very
hard position which nobody sometimes gives into respect because y'all
love us one day and y'all hate us the next.
We were just talking about Marshall and Lattimore. Some people
here feel like Marshall and Lattimore didn't live up to
what he was supposed to live up to.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And I say, it's a hard life for a hard person.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Understand that that job is a love hate relationship. Jinks
you I heard you talk trash about me when I
was playing Jinks. You heard me talk trash about talks.
We all.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'm been there, man.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I mean at the end of the day, with any position,
but particularly corner.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I mean you know this.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
You just have to have that short memory.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, you have to very short memory. And look, this
guy here had won the best because I've seen Look, no, no, lie,
That's why I love Fred. No, trust me, because I
saw Fred in college, I saw him in the league,
and same attitude, same intensity, never shied down.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
If Fred gave up a catch, better believe.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
The next play he finna tell you that he finish
Jami and jamming into the bleachers like he just had
that kind of confidence about his game. And when you
see him off the field, the same personality. So it's
very rare to see a guy that cares when they
play that position.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
You can't care, you care.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
You won't be you won't be a starter, you know
what mean?

Speaker 5 (21:57):
You you can't have the attitude of I'm worried about
this guy beating me.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Or moving a chance because it happens and weart of
it well.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
And that's why you were saying Tanne earlier that so
much of this game is mental, and that's part of it,
especially if at quarter, which is look, if I get
beat over the top or whatever it is, that's the game.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I just got to forget about it immediately the way.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
You life, especially we're gonna switch out, might hear me?

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Better?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Good to go? There you go.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
So when you look at a guy like Amos what
I I mean, if you look at his tape, it's
really impressive. And even Adam Peters was saying, look, we
had some offers, we could have maybe moved in the draft,
but we didn't want to give up the opportunity to
take a guy like this. And whenever you get arguably
the best player available at that spot and in the
position to need, that's a win win.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Fred talk about how smooth he is, and you know,
being that he player receiver, you know, one of the
things that stood out to me is being a receiver
watching my team that now I covered that I once
played for. The position I watched the most was the
defensive backs. Oh really, because people fail to realize that's
the most critical position on the defensive side other than
those guys up front, because it's so many wide receivers

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out there nowadays. Yeah, on the field at one time,
different way, and they're talented.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Man, you got the best of the best.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
You're playing against the Chases, the you know, the Jefferson's,
all those guys. I mean, the Debo when he was elsewhere,
Terry Hills, like so many guys.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
So if you can't just have one, you gotta have many.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
And to see us week there for so long to
now seeing that's where we're paying a close interest to saying, hey,
we have to make sure we're strong here because if
you saw what Santa Still did alone last year, he
raised the game of Saint Jus.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And also it was amazing to wat we talking about
Jason's growth, but Mikey's growth throughout the season was.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, especially when they asked him to do something that
initially they wasn't exiting him. They didn't expect They weren't
asking him to play outside. They were like, you're gonna
be a corner nickel and he was like, no, I
can play whatever you need me to play. His growth,
then you bring in the Jonathan Jones, whom nobody's talking about,
two time Super Bowl winner. Then you bring in a
Trey Amos, they saying we're going calling for reinforcements. With

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calling for reinforcements on the office line, on the deep,
and then the defensive backfield, we're checking all the boxes.
We got better in the offseason while a lot of
teams stay stagnant and thought they had everything locked up.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I'm glad you brought Jones because we were talking about
him just before we started the pot here. And that's
a guy that when you have championship experience like that,
How valuable is that because you don't have to be
a household name to add that, like I know how
to win sort of intiality.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Just think about what Bobby Wagner is doing right now
for ja a young Jayden Daniels, like telling him things
that it's going to better him year two, year three,
you know what I mean. Like, when you have those
kind of guys, it's just and you know, it heightens
everybody else's game around.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, No, it brings awareness to the to the locker room.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Like when somebody like Bobby Wagner walk in your locker room,
he automatically becomes the captain. You're the captain because no,
you've been there and you've done that. I watch you
do it, I watch you go win super Bowls. I
want you to be a part of a championship team,
Like how can we become that? Like I have to
ask you this question? And I love it because I
was walking the other day while we was feeling then,

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I was walking to the trailer and we were sitting
and I was just watching Jayden walking with walking with
by and just asking them questions like he's picking his
brain every second of the day, jinks. Like that's telling
me that this kid want to be great. He don't
want to be good, he wants to be great.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
So let me ask you this. For each of you guys,
who is that guy for you?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
When you were playing that, you could say, let me
reach out to this guy because I respect how he
plays the game, what he's done, and soaking that knowledge,
you know.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
For me, I was one of those guys that I
probably didn't reach out as much as I I should have,
but I felt like I had the blueprint that came
that was homegrown.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
A guy from University of Miami, Drin James. He was
gonna say. He had to you.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
He left two years prior, and he would call our
locker room every day and talk to certain individuals, guys
that he was close to, and be like, Bro, when
you get here, you're gonna kill it. Oh man, I'm
doing this, I'm doing that, and you gotta do this,
you gotta do that. So by the time I got there,
I had the game. I felt like I soaked it
up from watching him play it, but also listening to

(26:07):
him in the offseason when he do come home and
we're hanging out, he's just telling her. He's giving us
game about how to proach things take. You know already
that we're getting trained as collegiate players right now at
the University of Miami to be pros. Like you say,
no other college guy came into his draft more prepared
than him because of what our coaches did for us
at you M So when you have a guy like

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that that's telling you things, when I got to the pros,
I was almost stubborn and like I didn't want to
learn from nobody because I felt.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Like I had it. Well, you know, I mean, you
walked into a room ago, Joe. I've been saying, I
been say.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I don't know if y'all like Game of Thrones, but
I had the three irate when I came here, I
had Damn Green, I had the hasteless one. Then I
had the unsounds, then I had you Bailey. Like everybody
I asked the question to had a goal answer for me,
and they would answer anything for me. Like all I
had to do was be inquisitive, And that's what I
was always was always willing to ask, how do you

(27:02):
do this? Why do you do this? How do you
play a tall receiver? How do you play a small receiver?
Why do you move laterally like this? Like what's your mission?
At the beginning of this play? Like I had a
wealth of knowledge. And because I had that wealth of knowledge, jinks,
that's why I started so fast. Like that's why I
moved so fast, because they was answering questions, because I

(27:22):
was answering like a hundred the thing you know, he
was Fred That's not I would have loved to be
a fly on the.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Wall and seeing how Darrin Green and Deon Sanders and
champ Baby told him to shut up every now and
then because.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Think about this guy man, that damn Fred Man. They
went home on their ears, a ringing.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
No, I'm here, Like I told him, I'm the roach
in the room. Like the one thing we know about
down side, once your roads, getting your house, it's deephail
brothers and sisters coming back.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
When you look at the linebackers on the seat, we
know about Bobby Wagner, we know about Frankie Luger. K
Madrano is fascinating, fastest guy at linebacker at the NFL combine.
And this is a guy who obviously can play that spot,
but also he kind of moves like a strong safety too.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
I mean, I mean he talked about just being here
for one it's great for him just knowing that he
have Ken Nor in there coaching him. Again that stand
out the many tell him come get me, text him
say come get me, said the prayer and the phone rung,
now in that order, text the coach, come get me.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Let me say a prayer, ring phone rung Like he God,
I heard that story.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Is that legit?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Kid noring coach give me cottage the draft was going.
He texts coach and like coach, come.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Get me and.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Ring yes no.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
But I mean when you look at the kid, he's
a hybrid to me like, he's one of those guys
that I'm looking I'm very interested in just seeing what
they're gonna do with him, because you know, it's aecially
if he jump off the charts and go out there
and tell you like, look, it's gonna be hard for
you to sit me down, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Because he has the size, he's long, and to speed.
He can cover. That's one of the things that we
want to see Moyally cover. He can't cover.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
So when you have a guy that can cover and
that's in between being a safety in the linebacker, you
make up a position for him like, look, they are
not I'm gonna put you in the box and play football.
So yeah, I'm very high on him, just saying, you know,
how how ready is he? How soon can he be ready?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
How huge is it to have a guy like that
in coach Norton that believes you or even when you
honestly in any job. Ever, when you have someone who says,
I know exactly what you can do, that's huge.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Show. I had Coach Schottenheimer when I got out here.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Coach Marty Schottenheimer, blessed soul was a DB's head coaching
and when he came got me.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
He said, I believe in you, and you I'm putting
everything believe me. I ain't getting No.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
They don't think about it. They wanted to meet shot
on it.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Rod got itse I don't know why we went big
gonna be We already had a big receipt.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
We don't have this.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
But the thing about it is, I love the fact
that when he drafted me, he like you said, I
drafted you with a purpose. And when a team draft
you with a purpose, that gives you a fastest step
to get where you need to be.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
And you also understand it.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
I got a chance here Like we all get here thinking,
you know, I'm in the league, everything's good.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
No, am I here for a purpose? And I think
we got him for here for a purpose.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
When you look at free agent additions on the defense,
which is a guy that stands at you?

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Is it a will Harris?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Is it Javon Kilo who goes back to ap back
in the San Francisco days? A guy took a step
up this season and make us maybe surprise us a
little bit.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
You know, I'm gonna say, Harris, I'm gonna jump out
there because I told you I'm a receiver.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I'm looking at DB's, I'm looking at who can make a.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Difference in that secondary, especially when you got a guy
that we missing out on. To me, who I thought
was one of our I thought, to me, he was
like the unsung hero on our defense last year. And yeah,
I mean the way he played down the stretch, how
he played throughout the season. When you when you don't
bring a guy like him back, any guy that you're
filling that void with.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
He has to be for real, he has to bring it.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
So your Harris jumps off the chart right now to me,
just you know, I'm gonna probably play coach attention to him,
not only because he's gonna have that position, but I
think from what I watched him, how he played in
New Orleans, the inticity, how coach Joe with Junior talk
about he wanted to see those guys coming the way
they come, you know, have violence on their mind when
they come in and make attack the mindset for this team,

(31:32):
no doubt, no doubt. So to me, that jumps off
and I'm looking forward to seeing him replace that position,
replace that guy who we had there, because if he
can make up for that loss, yeah, we move in
the right direction.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Defensively, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Javon Kinlaw and
I'm gonna go Ken Law for a couple of reasons.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
One, he from Washington, d C. Like born in race.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Two, he was homeless in Washington, d C. He didn't
feel pained like three told you, ILL like fat boys.
I told you I like fat boys. Like they said,
we're going to level up with you Philadelphia Kinlaw, and
they have to.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They have to.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
That's why I said, I think he is one of
those guys that can change everything because you don't just
got to.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Play him at tackle.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
You can play him at big end, you can play
him anywhere you want you On the defensive front, I
think they understood we need to we need to stop
the run before we can stop the past. And I
think a lot of people like want to edge Russia
won't that. I told you, I think the quickest way
to the quarterback is through the eight gap, not the D.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
You've always said that, straight up, I really do feel
that material.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
So when you look at this team, we're gonna get
an inside look at what they're battling.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Deep into the fall. When hard knocks covers the nfcast,
it's gonna be coming to this. It's gonna be great.
You guys are gonna be all over.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, we's gonna be putting Samo's.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Question about it.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
But how I feel like now we're transitioning into a
stage in the division where it is at least for
the next couple of years at least Commanders Eagles battling
with the top of the division.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
We're getting to see it like right there in front
of us.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Well, I think, you know, for the most part, regardless
of if it was the Cowboys or the Giants or
someone else, you know what I mean, we beat each
other up a year round.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
And at one time they didn't pay.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Attention to this division because it was never that one
team that stood out. But now they see they see that, Oh,
this is why there's never one team that's the NFC
East champs every year because they're dominant here.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
And I'm glad now that it's at.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
The point to where you get an Eagles team that
has been to the Super Bowl twice in the last
on three or four years and then they won once.
Now the tension comes back over there, like there's something
over there because they don't just dominate that division. They
have battles against those guys that playing that division. So
I love it and I'm happy that Hard Knocks said, hey,
we don't want one team, we want them all.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
We love it.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
And you gotta realize the drama in Dallas with Jarry Jones,
Philidelphia with those bleacher creatures that they call fans up
in Then you got the New York Giants. Then you
got America's hottest team to Washington Commanders like this is
perfect timing. Now you're talking about three four of the

(34:27):
biggest markets in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
It's all work. It's semantics.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
If you know what, then if you want to, you know,
really get down to the nitty gritty, we talk about
the quarterback play. You know, the first time in history
that one division got for African American quarterbacks, the first
time ever, which I hope Jameis winning the job.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
And you never know what jamis.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I love James, I love Jameis Winston. I'm sorry I
do so.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Are Eagles fans still sliding into your dms after you
went after them a few months ago?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I called them bleacher creatures for a reason. Stop all
that clapping, Stop all that clapping at the end of
the day them bleach your creatures.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Okay, they are in my dms to this all the time,
and they won the Super Bowl. Cheeks right, why are
they still attacking?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
There was the dude talking to you. I saw this,
I watched it go on on X.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
It was like a month after the game, and I'm like, still,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
You won the Super Bowl? Will not child? You did
your thing? I congratulations, we got three trophies. Y'all got
to Fred you.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Know how it is you one of those guys that,
regardless of what happens, this you saying something is gonna
get somebody attention.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
You can go tonight them It's going tonight and I'm
good with that.

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Speaker 1 (36:18):
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us down. You ain't invite your boy. Now I'm going.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I'm going because Drake let us bite you boy cause
he not like us. So I'm going to the kendremark.
I'm going to the concert. Yes, I am okay, that's
what I thought. Time now for fan questions.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
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and for this we bring in the incredible. Let's give
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Speaker 1 (36:42):
All right and Colorado's find.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
All right?

Speaker 7 (36:49):
We ready for our first fan question.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
All right, we off.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
It's the final two minutes in the twenty twenty five
Super Bowl. Oh, Dan Quinn needs you to take the
field and help the do hold on to a thin
six point lead.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
Could Fred Smoot.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Do it right?

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Now?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
All right?

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I heard the end of that, you said, twenty twenty
five super Bowl. Fred Smoot is in the Super Bowl.
Coach dan Quinn needs me to do.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
What they need you to help the de hold onto
a thin six point lead.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Could I do it?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Could you do it? Right now?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
What's it to me?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I ain't got but one place close and one and
one foot. Hey, your feet always hurt. I ain't got
for one play in me.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
And if Coach dan Quinn asked me to give three plays,
I got three plays in me.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Like I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
I have not met a man that brings out the
energy like Coach Quinn brings out in the person. So
if I don't think I could do it, I believe
he could make me think that I could. I think
he can make I think that I could.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I love that. Just one play, that's it. You can
do one play, one player.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Believe it?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Y'all need before it's one play?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
All right? Next question? Next question?

Speaker 7 (38:05):
Okay, we'll start with Santana and then we'll have Fred.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Okay, Santana, we need a mount rushmore of wide receivers
to you, and then Fred mount rushmore of wide receivers
that you faced.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Okay, So so saying, tel, I gotta do Mount Rushmore
receivers his thing in mind.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
That I faced. So are these receivers all time or
just for right now?

Speaker 7 (38:31):
I think that that you played with A Yeah, okay, who.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Who's your top three? It's hard jer Jerry sit along
on the thrown by itself.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
I'm gonna have to put Randy Moss in there. He
could go any spot and then to be technical with it. Uh,
people might not like this, but I'm gonna say, Harrison,
Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
I ain't gonna get mad at I'm not go get
mad at that. If that's more thing. It's four guys, right,
No t O in there.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, I put t o in.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I mean, but it's some gonna like those guys with
the most numbers you're gonna put up.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
There, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, so I go to yo, all right, all right,
as a guy that played against all of those guys. Uh,
Jerry Rice's number one. We're not we're not even doing that,
all right, Uh random mouse a damn weapid. All right,
I'm gonna go too, number three, and I'm gonna go

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Santano Mouse number.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
That's what I'm gonna do. So I got to Mouses,
Curve boll in my top four.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
Okay, Janks for you for these commentators.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
What are you drinking right now?

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Mount Rushmore of sports commentators?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Oh, Mount Rushmore of sports commentators.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Oh God, Brown ain't in that. Jim Brown ain't in it?
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (39:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Man, I gotta have to think about this one. Well
one is Dale Hands and the guy I grew up, Admiraing.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Okay, number two.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I love Craig Kilbourne because Kilbourne could do everything back
when he was in ESPN. But when you're talking about
the great great if we're talking about play by play guys, yeah,
I mean pad some Rawles up there.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Oh yeah, you can't do it with that summer.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Simple, elegant. The way he did everything didn't have to
describe everything, you could. You could understand what was going
on just by listening to his cadence. And then a
man one more, you know, like Madden. I mean you
gotta put bad in there.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Come on, you Madden in there. You have to write
dude boom. It changed the way we we listened to.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Chemistry too.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, the chemistry between Madden and some raw was very special.
You can't really can't replicate, Yeah, yeah, those are my guys.
Good quest question that question one, Well, next time asked
smooth that question.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, that was a great question.

Speaker 7 (40:58):
Okay, this one is for Fred.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Which quarterback that you picked off in your career through
the most catchable ball?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
The quarterback?

Speaker 4 (41:07):
The one quarterback that I picked off the most was
Brett Favre. I picked out Brett Farv five times.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Uh. One to the house.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Brett threw the most catchup a ball that you could
ever catch.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
All right. The thing about it is he threw that
ball because he wasn't afraid. Like. The thing is he'll
throw a pick and he'll come back and throw it
again at you. Like that's the thing about it. So
Brett Farv is the quarterback that I picked off the most,
threw the most catchable ball.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
But boy was he hard to play. He was hard
to play. Now, Oh that's a good one.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Next one, do you think Nil has gotten out of hand?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Red just wants to.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Get says, now, what.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Do you see the dude for Oregon when Dan Lanning.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, took his shirt off, jumped into the port. Yeah yeah,
that kid decommitted No seventeen days later.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
No, then they offer him a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
I don't know what it was, but he's the number
three player I think in California. An edge out of
Cali de committed two and a half weeks.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
So I will say for me, n I L it's
a little I think it's at a point to where
they need to put a cap on it. They're gonna
have the camp because I feel that it's unfair to
be a team saving. As I'm a head coach, I
go out there and work hard to recruit. You find
the money from boosters or whoever I'm getting this money from.
Sign you on the line for one year and then

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you then you you jump in the port the next
year because someone's gonna pay you more. I think it
should be a cap saying that if you're going to
pay these guys as much as you're paying them, let's
treat it like they're professionals. I mean, they're no longer
collegiates or student athletes. They are now getting paid to play.
So it has some sort of pro staff professionalism when

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it comes to paying these guys money. You got to
make you gotta put a cap. We gotta protect your
bottom line.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Well, I think the college got to protect day.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Bottom line, Like, at the end of the day, it's
one of them things where you can have a payroll
of fifteen twenty million dollars and you're not getting twenty
million dollars in football play.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Like at the end of the day, I think they're.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Gonna have to do revenue sharing, Like that's gonna be
the thing, because when we don't want is we don't
want the nest I mean the Baseball League. We don't
want the Yankees, we don't want the Dodgers. We don't
want Texas, Yes you do, Yeah, we don't want Texas
playing fifty million.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
We're in he goo a team over here.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
The moment is these schools, these bigger schools, have an
inherent advantage.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I mean, yeah, they got they got they got big boosters, right,
they do, got big booster But when I say, you
got to level the playing field at one point, like
I understand giving Texas Ohio State saying yeah, you can't
go over the cap if you want to, But I
think you've got to have some revenue sharing in there
to the point where every team could compete every.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Year or basically give everybody the same dollar amount. Say look,
we're gonna put this on the table.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Every school can only spend this amount fifteen million, bing go, yeah, all.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
Right, here's here's we'll do two more, two more for man,
Who is your favorite teammate that you played with? Jenks,
Maybe that's who your favorite or best interview was that
you've ever done.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
That could be yours.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Favorite teammate about time? Oh, I got so many teammates.
I was a teammate guy, So you actually the wrong
gap Bauck This. Yeah, that's hard for Fred asks.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
It's hard for me too, because I never I was
one of those guys that I couldn't just say this
is my best friend. I was a guy that I
can bond with anybody in the locker room. But if
I had to say, it's not even gonna be in
New York, I mean, it's not gonna be in DC,
It's gonna be in New York. I had a teammate
we called him Jay Gutter. His name was Jonathan Carter.

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He was in our same class.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I know, Jase.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
He played receiver, you know, just as well as me.
But he came over from the Giants, and I remember
he was a guy that coached them. Was like he's
on the bubble he's he's he's a twinner, he's a player.
He could play running back, play running back in college.
Trying to make him a receiver. I took him home
with me in the offseason, came back, made the team
coach say, yeah, he's a receiver now.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
So that was my That was my guy.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Man.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
He was one of those guys that to this day
he called me big bro. And he's older than me,
so I think, you know, you know, he rocks me
that way.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I can't even say, like, I just I got along
with all my teammates and most of the guys y'all
won't y'all won't remember e fae O l A T.
He came in our class from you USC safety. I
got Johnny U Banks, I got I like so many dudes.
Like they're like when I say so many dudes, when

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you make a friend in this league, these.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Are the only people that know what you're going through.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
They know what you're going through personally, they know what
you're going through emotionally, they know what you're going through mentally.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
All right, So I got so many dudes that I'm
freeing with, like me.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
And me and Sean springs of great friends and I
call him the bastard from the South.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
So it doesn't matter. We all cool. We all cool.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I will say the one time I wouldn't say it's
my favorite athlete to interview, but my favorite interview K
was Randy Moss. Actually, there was a time people forget
Randy was would not talking with anybody, and Randy was radioactive.
And I was sent to New England to cover the
Patriots here in the Super Bowl run, and I was
doing a story.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
I was thought, it's very.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Interesting how these guys play at Jillette Stadium and they're
all growing beards.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
And so Randy was sitting alone.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Just brooding by himself, when I thought, I'm gonna go
ask Randy Moss's question. And I remember walking over to Randy,
and the New England media was like, watch out, kid,
and I go, Randy asked you a question about your beard?
He goes, what, I go, don't you think it's funny
that you guys play in a stadium name for a
shaving company you're all growing beards.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
He goes, stay right here.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
He walked off, and I was like, that's it.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Thirty seconds later he coazes up next to me. He
goes all right, say that again.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I asked him the question again, and he sat there
and talked to me for about four or five minutes.
And Randy Moss had not been talking to any one.
Later on the rest of the meeting came around and
started asking football questions.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
He got angry. He was on ESPN that night, but
before that he sat with me and we just joked
around and talked for about five or six minutes, and
it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, you broke the ice a little bit more, definitely,
Like I know Randy, and this is how Randy.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Right. If you really want to talk to Randy, talk
about people, just talk about real things, but don't come
in his face and talk about two hundred yards out
again twenty five yards against the Reyal Reeves.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Right, he don't want to hear that.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
Yeah, last question, what's your favorite memory from your career
in Washington?

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Favorite memory from your career in Washington.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Uh? For me, it was draft Day, like you gotta
go draft day cause Draft Day I was wondering where
win what And I got that call from Mortescheidenheimer and
he said, You're coming to Washington, d C. And Uh,
I'm still in Washington, d C. So that tells you

(48:15):
how what love I got for Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
It works. It works. Yeah, I love you too, girl.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
My favorite memory I want to say it's mine, but
I say the fans' favorite memory will probably be Moneay
Night Miracle. I give it to them. I let them
win that every time because I have. I have a
ton of all the memories. But they're not gonna let
me let that that. The funny part is santanagas.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Man, when y'all call Catboy killed, I gave up.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I gave up. I mean I gave up.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
He say, I played a lot more games against a
lot more people, but y'all only remember those two catches.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
I understand it. I understand it, and that's why I
gave in. I'm like, you know what, You're right, so
you know. But that's that would never leave my memory
bank because they don't.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
They don't allow it to.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, so before we ran things up, what do you
think about the NFL now allowing players to compete in
the Olympic Games in flag football?

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Damn that's what I had to say about it. Hey,
we could have played in the Olympics if we won,
so damn old.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
That's what they take you know, these flag football dudes
are like, no, no, no, no, no, we are the
best players in the world.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
We're not.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
You're not. It ain't a flag football wide receiver better
than Jamar Chaks. It ain't a flag football wide receiver
better than Justin Jenkins. It ain't no flag.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Football dB better than any of the dv's in the league.
Yes you play that game, Yes you do it all
the time. No football blown to us. All right, let's
get it, let's be serious.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
I think it's only fair when you look at how
the basketball players get to go over there, you know,
play for the country. All the track athletes, I mean,
that's their that's their time to shine anyway. You know,
Olympics is what they they trained for a year and
a year out and forever because it almost takes what
four years. Yes, so if you're going to allow football
to be played, why not allow the real football players

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play the rest in the world, regardless of if it's
a flag or not, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
So that's how I look at it. But I'm not
I'm not against allowing the.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Ones that actually play flag football professionally to go out
there and strut that stuff too. I just feel like,
make it fair enough where we can both get a
squad and say, the best team goes on to represent
this country.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
If you have an opportunity, If you had an opportunity, yeah,
to compete for a gold medal.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
How much motivation would.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
That be that's automated, Like what you need, JS, I
can bring a gold medal home.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
Oh my god, you wear it every day every day.
I have a read on my chest because of this
gold medal. With that, but at the end of the day,
you got to look at it as a whole.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
I say this, do you know how many players from
the past wish they could have played in the Olympics.
Like we watched the Olympics as a as a fan base.
We all get together to watch the best athletes in
the world. And you cannot tell me the NFL players
ain't a part of that one percent of the best

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athletes in the world.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
So yeah, I would have loved to play it, ye'ah.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
Think it's one of those things as kids, you know,
and especially for myself being a track athlete, that was
my two goals. I wanted to make it to the Olympics,
you know, for the loan jump, and I wanted to
make it to the NFL, you know. And it's crazy
that my junior year I made it to Olympic trials
in the loan jump. I didn't compete because I was
going to football. But so just to think that as

(51:34):
a football player, I get a chance to go out
there and compete on that level, on that stage, just
seeing I mean, as a kid man, I couldn't wait
to see the Olympic games, like I would watch things
that I never paid attention to the level igine like
I would never I watched water polo, I watched sink
and ized swimming. You're just watching it because it's that
special to you, you know.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
So if the world.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Compete, you can't imagine how I would feel to be
able to be a part of that, playing a sport
that's near and dear to me that I'm really great
at and I can go out here and compete on
that level for my country. And think about this, jinks.
The world been kicking out but in soccer for a
whole time when they played football against.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Silver, go go go.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
So guess what it's my time? We had a literature football, Yeah,
no doubt you.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Would have a quick draft, like if you had to
draft a flag football team.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
All right, if I have to do it. Now, who
we draft?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Let's start?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Okay, so quarter it's two years from now. Quarterback. Who
we get to pick?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Three receivers and a running back?

Speaker 4 (52:37):
An, I'm gonna go Jayde Dais as my quarterback. I'm
gonna keep that youth in there. I'm gonna go Jamon Chase.
I'm gonna go Justin Jenkins, Justin Jefferson, I'm Jampa Jackson,
and I'm gonna go who.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
I'm gonna put it in the slot. I want to
put Tyreek Hill on. Three receivers, right, yeah, there are
three receivers, and.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
I got my running back. I'm gonna say, Corn Barking.
I'm gonna say, Corn, who you got?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
So I will go a Lamar Jackson since you got Jayden?

Speaker 4 (53:02):
All right?

Speaker 5 (53:03):
All right, all right, receiver wise, I would go. You
already picked the two guys I like the most. So
let me see, I'm going Terry Scary Terry all right. Uh,
I'm gonna go deboah boy. And then I'm gonna go
I'm I'm gonna keep it in the NFC, and I'm
gonna pick my guy.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Brown a j that's a good one. Running running backs,
I'm going Gibbs from.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Detroit, Oh, Jamar GiB Yes, all right, right, I go
Josh Allen the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I'm trying to go different here.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I would take man Tyreek get such a goal, because
you just want guys in the open field.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Right, because we didn't pick no tight ends. Yeah, but
we didn't get a chance. Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
And running back, I would take b Jon Robinson.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Texas.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
And also, like you get a guy who can do it,
spit it out, you can have him in the backfield.
Maybe go Aman ros Saint Brown. All right, I will
do that.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Let's see who else, maybe Ceede Lambs boy.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
Uh Now, we don't care about your travel if you're
if you American, yeah exactly, And then I might just
go straight maybe a Jaalen Waddle or someone like that.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
You can just get in the open field. You want wiggle.
I just want wiggle like or Smith.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Oh yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, I want wiggle like.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
This is not about sprints. That's why I didn't go be.
I went more guys this this, this, this, this twitchy yeah,
like I think that's all it's about. When it's playing football,
and and when you pick on defense. What makes it
so hard is it's a difference between tackling somebody and
pulling the flag. Yeah, pulling the flag is high head
coordination and tackling somebody's physicality.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
So I think you gotta watch how you pick your
defensive players.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
So here we go. In a few days, it's gonna
be June. We're gonna be mid June.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
We're gonna talk about training camp here in a couple
of months. Is this the time when you start to
get excited a little bit? Or is this the call
before the storm.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Calm before the storm? Talking about as a player, yeah,
or as a guy who as a fan? Which one
you want to talk about?

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Let's do both well.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
As a player, I'm looking for that last vacation right now,
I'm like, I meant, you know, when it hits it
you I need. I need one more trip to get
it out. I got to I got you right now?
Do you want more trip to get it out? My
go to Canada and go to the carnival right now.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Once I see that date, once I know that that
that report date is near, I try not to wait.
I go ahead and fly back. We can ahead here
a week ahead of time.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
So now I can kind of like count down that
day I'm at the report because now it's go time.
And then as a guy sitting in the seat I'm
in now you know, us covering the team analysts.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I just I mean it's football year round for us, So.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
I mean, look at us right now.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I enjoy every moment of it.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
I enjoyed the anticipation of just getting to the OTAs
and then what's going on now, and some of the
guys that's not there, I'm gonna enjoy the part when
they break, just knowing that it's Hey, training.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Can up be a couple of weeks away.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
So I love what we're doing now because we get
a chance to watch follow and not have to worry
about all the stuff that we worried about as players.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I've been saying at the end of the day, right
now this is easy. Like right now, it's easy because
it's no pressure on you. Everybody healthy, nobody's hurt, a height,
everybody trying.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
To get all good vibes right now.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Oh good vibes. Right now. It's the honeymoon stage. That's
what it is. It's the honeymoon stage.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
But when real football start, Let's be honest, we out
of the kids on the block. Now, everybody want to
see us. We got seven six to seven primetime games,
all right. Uh, we got a quarterback that everybody want
to see. We got a head coach.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Everybody want to see. We're playing in Madrid, Spain, like
we at the hot ticket right now. So I think
they preparing for that. They understand. Ain't no sneaking up
on nobody. No more, I ain't no sneaking up on nobody.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Musician. We wouldn't waiting to be an long That's what
we want to be at. So let's get it. Been
great being here at Franklin Hall.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Got an awesome crew here, Anna, Jason, Maddie, Kayla Carolina.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Did I miss anybody at home? Now?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Thank you guys for coming out. Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Always a pleasure to be at these guys, Santana Moss.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Ye, we'll see how

Speaker 2 (57:10):
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