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February 24, 2025 62 mins

Most CRE brokers follow the big-firm playbook. Sam McVay doesn’t. As the co-founder of McVay Real Estate, Sam has transacted over $14 billion in deals across hospitality, office, retail, and alternative assets. But instead of chasing volume, he’s built a boutique firm that prioritizes relationships over transactions, quality over quantity, and integrity over conflicts of interest.


In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Sam to talk about:

✅ Why big brokerage firms prioritize their bottom line over yours

✅ The hidden conflicts of interest in traditional CRE firms

✅ Why Sam believes face-to-face deals will always outperform digital deals

✅ The cutting-edge AI tools he’s using to streamline transactions

✅ What global investors are buying in Australia, Asia, and the U.S. right now

📍 Plus: Sam shares his wild journey from New York to London to Sydney, explains how he built a CRE powerhouse with just 8 brokers, and even gets a crash course in Timmy’s new sport, Tizbee.


🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube!


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⏰Time Code⏰

00:00 - Start03:01 - All Disc, No Balls04:46 - Meeting Sam McVay06:38 - How Did Your CRE Journey Unfold?09:34 - 10% Commission11:24 - The Fundamental Problem With How Most Agencies Operate15:21 - Conflict of Interest24:11 - Doing Business Face to Face28:22 - The Impact of a Good Dad34:59 - Movie Trailer Listings, VR Tours, and Leather Bound Materials40:16 - Using Ai For Accuracy and Efficiency45:22 - Key Differences Between Australia, US and New Zealand Markets52:37 - Trump Requires Federal Employees Back To Office55:33 - More Than Face To Face


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