July 17, 2023 • 23 mins
Meet Kerstyn, a 33-year old from Sydney who used to work in real estate sales... but don’t hold that against her. She's a romantic at heart, an all-round good vibe, and the kind of person you want as your bestie!
You'll pleased to know she gave real estate the flick to start up a business that didn't exist ANYWHERE before her... what is she concealing?
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
We are surrounded by people that we know but we
don't really know, like a bland coworker. Let's call it Sandra.
You know, the type wears the same drab clothes day
in and day out and has the personality of a
wet sock. We all have a Sandra in our lives.
But what if Sandra was an international woman of mystery,
or spent her nights as an erotic dancer, or had
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a different side to her that you didn't see that
actually made her interesting. Well, I'm taking it upon myself
to find that Sandra's of the world. Hello. I'm Artzimone
and this is Concealed, where I uncover the interesting lives
of seemingly average people. Let's meet our guests hit it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hello. My name is Kirsten. I am thirty three years old.
I live in Sydney and I used to work in
real estate sales. I have always loved musical theater and
my favorite things to do are to hang out with
my fiance and to play with my cat. I am
concealing something about my job, something that I do that
up until I started my business, I had no idea
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that it actually was a real profession.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I like kissing how are you good?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I am doing so well now that I know your
fond of the pussy, I am so you are one
of my people. It's exciting. Now let you get a
good look at you that. Oh now, yes meow indeed?
All right? What's around your neck? Can you just show
you around your neck? It might be a clue. I've
got to look just a necklace, yeah, but it could
be anything. What is on the end a talisman?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't know, or a gryffindor charm?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh, yes, a gryffindor charm. Oh you are a gryffindor.
I am I'm a slitherin. That's not what's next to
it is not? It is not. But if a snake
was pretending to be like a juguar, that's the noise
they would make. But beautiful, yes sir?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Did you have nails? Oh? It's oh nice? Yes, Oh
they're like a nice pearl finish on them.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I can see it all the way from here. I
love Okay, and fiance. Tell me about fiance. How'd you meet?
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We met on hinge online?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh that would be rather recent than because he just
like a slightly Newish one Newish.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
We've been together for two and a half years now,
and we got engaged on our second anniversary.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Oh my god, stop it. How do you do it?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He blurted it out very quickly. I think he got
nervous right at the second. But he was down on
one knee and it was in a box, and it
was actually at the place where we first met. It
was very sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And where did you first meet?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We met by the beach in Crinella, which kind of
where I'm from beach things.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, okay, do you like the beach. This could be
a clue. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I do like the beach. Yes, I go to the
beach most mornings.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What are your thoughts on sand?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, it is a necessary evil of the beach.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
She's got to take the good with the bad. Okay, yes,
I mean sometimes I'm like, it's not worth the sand.
I'll go to a pool, but then the pool that
someone might take a shit in the pool, and then
it's like, oh no, I mean they can do it
that well. I mean animals just ship, yeah, animals just
shipping the sea anyway, So okay, Well, maybe pools aren't
very good. Okay, sea salt scrub. Maybe maybe going to
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the ocean would be good to take off my makeup,
you know, because.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's good for you. Yes, exfolliance, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And what's your cat's name?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Her name is Princess.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh, of course, Princess beautiful. And how princess?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
She's an old girl now she's fourteen.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And is she yours?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
She is mine? Yes, she's spent many years living with
my parents, but she's my cat.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, good, okay, Well we like Princess Beautiful okay. And
musical theater. What's your favorite musical?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh? Too many to list, but I'm currently on a
Waitress phase. Do you know musical?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I haven't seen Waitress, but I know of Waitress.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh, it's based on the movie and the music is phenomenal.
Sarah Berrelli's rights it also.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yes, Yes, I just saw Beauty and the Beast in
the opening in Sydney. It was incredible. The production, the production.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's the costumes and the staging. For me, it's amazing
what they can do.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It was incredible. Yes, so go and check it out
if you haven't, it's a good one. Now, real estate,
what made you go into real estate? I'm worried is
there a bit of a stigma around when you say
real estate to people.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's actually why I left. Oh okay, yes, yes, So
my dad was a real estate agent and I initially
just started working on reception while I was at university,
and then I thought this is a good way to
make some money and then I'll go back to UNI.
And I never went back. I was in real estate
for seven and a half years.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh my goodness. Yeah. I feel like in real state
it'd be the bad guy a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, and that's what I didn't like. I didn't like
that stereotype of the person that they thought I was
before they really got to know me. So it's ultimately
why I left.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah. Look, it's not a good time to be a
real estate person in this especially in this state age.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Not at the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, no, lots so nasty emails being sent to people
about renting cross. Okay, I'm going to ask you three questions,
and from the answers to those three questions, I have
to determine what it is you're concealing from me today.
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I am ready?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay. Question number one, if you could bring back any
inanimate object that you lost, what would it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Be There is a ring that I lost when I
was overseas on holidays. I was swimming at the beach
of course.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Hmm, the ocean is coming back into play again. Okay,
wet things all write that down, Okay, So, yes, you
lost at the beach.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, when I was on holidays in Europe, very sad.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh Europe. Oh it's a euro trip, that's us. Where
in Europe.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Were you are Italy?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay? Question number two, what is your favorite smell?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Very specific?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
No, I love this.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Going back to musical theater. There is this one brand
of hairspray. I can't think of the name of it,
but it's the gold bottle, the gold can with the
white lid. That smell always takes me back to being
backstage at a show.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Gold can, white lid.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
The rund likes to huff fumes. Okay. And question number three,
If you could relive any moment of your life, what
would it be.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It is actually something you already asked me about my
proposal to my fiance Akiy with such a surprise. It
came out of nowhere, and it happens so quickly. I'd
love to just go back and really be present and
remember it all and maybe force him to say something
more than way mammy.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, al right, okay, wow, I said this week I
was going to get it, and I think I am.
But that's a If I don't get it, we don't
kick you off. It's fine. We're still going to talk regardless. Okay,
So let's recap. Okay, you're missing a ring, all right,
ring in the ocean. Ocean water beach, italy. Okay, ocean beach,
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little Lily dolemo Okay, yep, all right. And second favorite
smell is hair spray, huffing, hair spray, backstage, backstage hair spray. Okay,
backstage hair spray, hair spray, musical something musical, musical? Rings?
Is there a lot of the rings? The musical? Maybe
(07:51):
that give it? And if you could relive any moment
in your life, what would be your proposal? Okay, it's
about marriage, marriage. Okay, it's like rings in marriage, something
to do with marriage. Okay, Now I'm going to go
back to my gartner. Right, have you written and produced
your own musical called Lord of the Rings the musical?
(08:12):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Correct? How did you know? I am a professional bridesmaid?
I own a business called hire a bridesmaid. We have
a team of five and we attend weddings every single weekend.
What what is that? Sours are what?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
This is a job?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
A thing?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So Kirsten didn't create Lord of the Rings the musical.
She's in fact a professional bridesmaid? What what? What the
hell is a professional bridesmaid? Can I leave it? So
(09:09):
we're here with Kirstin and unfortunately Kirstin hasn't written the
musical Lord of the Rings, but I hope she does eventually.
But you are a professional bridesmaid?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I have never heard of this in my life. Top line?
What is the professional bridesmaid?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Exactly? What it sounds like. It's somebody that is part
of a wedding, usually a bridesmaid, sometimes a groomsman, and
we're hired to be there.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is this something that you'd seen done before and you're like, oh,
I can do that too, or do you just make
this up?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I totally made it up. Oh yep, I just came
out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Is there anyone else in the world that does well?
They probably do now right, Okay?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
There is someone else that's actually another lady in the States.
She's based in New York, who does it, which I
only found out about her after I started my business.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So when did you start this business?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Twenty fifteen. It was a total accident. I was actually
m seeing a friend's wedding reception and all these things
were happening on the wedding day, and the bridesmaids and
I were running around and doing last minute tasks, and
it was forty degrees and the bride was out there
looking at tables and flowers, and I just thought, like,
this is crazy. A bride and her bridesmaids or a
couple and their friends shouldn't have to be doing these
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tasks on the wedding day. And I went home and
I was thinking about it, and I'm like, how do
I become something to do with weddings? And it wasn't
until the next day. I was talking to my mum
and I was explaining how well I wasn't a bridesmaid.
I was the MC, but it was like I was
a bridesmaid because I was helping. And my mom said, like,
you were hired to be a bridesmaid, and I went
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ding ding ding ding, that's it. And I literally put
that up on the internet thinking it would just be
MC Coordination Services, and then naturally someone googled and found
it and that was twenty sixteen, the inn of twenty
sixteen that someone found me.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Wow, and how many people do you employ within your group?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
There are five of us, five brads.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's a pretty good pad. Groomsmen as well, Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yep, we have groomsmen. We have best people wing women.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Whatever you need, I say, if I was auditioning for
a role of a brod's maid, you know, professional bridesmaids,
grooms person you know, what do you look for in
a candidate, Well.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You're hired for starters. That was easy. A lot of
it's got to do with personality and also do we
think that they're capable of managing other things on a
wedding day. It's not just about being you know, a
very small part of our job is standing there and
looking amazing in the dress that they give you or
the suit that they give you. The biggest part of
it is kind of knowing what to expect at a
wedding and just being there to guide somebody through it.
(11:45):
So really it's not just about do I think this
person is auditioning who could do the job. It's like, well,
could they also be a wedding planner if required, and
they're the people that we hire.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you need to be good at a few little things,
I guess. But what kind of people need to hire
a bride's bait?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
All different people. Sometimes people hire us just because they
want to even out their bridal party. Sometimes people hire
us because they need someone to do the tasks on
the wedding day. That's another side of what we do.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's like you're in disguise, you're like undercover boss. What
do you correct? But I feel like people would keep
it quiet on the DL that they've got they're hiring
someone in their bridal party. You know, has to know.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Some people are happy to tell you know, their partner
or some of their family or the other bridesmaids groomsmen.
But a lot of the time, yeah, it is a secret.
We do offer them the option for us to sign
an NDA on their behalf if they wish, Yeah, if
they prefer we didn't say it. Yes, my business is
actually called hire a bridesmaid, So if you were looking
for one, it's pretty easy to google it.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And within the world of being a professional bridesmaid, what's
the scope of the work of what you do. Is
it sometimes just like hanging out and being part of
the group, or is it you know, let me know.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So it really depends on what the client wants. Sometimes
we help them plan their whole wedding from beginning to end,
and we love that because we really get to know
our clients well in that timeframe that can be up
to twelve months. Other times it's coming in closer to
the wedding when it comes to things like bridle showers
and hens parties and being with them throughout and just
kind of, yeah, going dress shopping with them, doing all
the fun stuff. And then we also have a hidden
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bridesmaid service where we just turn up on the wedding
day And as I said, that could just be to
fill out the wedding party, or it could be to
just be the person who's there for them on their
wedding day.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's a got a bit weird that, Like imagine if
you're at a hen's party and they're like, Hi, I'm Sandra.
We met Beverly you know, ten years ago, with their
prey out of you, and they go around the circle
and they go to you and you're like, I'm just
paid to be here.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, we wouldn't say that, but yes, it would be
funny if we did.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But does it get weird, like you know, like I know,
do you feel like an impostor No?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Not really. It kind of feels like you're doing someone
a really lovely service. There's a reason they've hired us.
It's because they want somebody who gets it. We've been
to lots and lots of weddings and they just want
someone who's there by their side. And you know, we
just try and keep their story simple. So if they
ask us a question that we don't know the answer to,
for example, that Hen's party situation where you're going around,
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how do you know them? We just have a backstory
that we've come up with and we stick to it.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
When you're going into these situations, do you find other
guests who are in on what you do? Do they
get territorial like you know, does the mother of the
brid get territorial? Or do the best friends being like, well,
I could have done that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think that's part of any wedding, any bride or party,
whether you know them or not, the biggest part of
our job is reading people and saying, Okay, well, that
person really wants to do that job. Let them do it.
You know, I don't need to be the one that
fixes the veil or fixes the dress or cleans the
lint off the suit. If someone else wants to do it,
we let them do it. That's totally fine.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I guess on the flip side too, you wouldn't be
called in to be doing these things if these people
had put the hand up right at the beginning to
do them all at the beginning. So it's really easy
to walk in be like, well, I would have done that,
and I would have done it really good. When will
you didn't, Babe?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yes, Sadly that does happen. Sometimes we're hired because they
do have good friends, but they're just not the level
of friend that would actually help them throughout the wedding planning.
So they get us in to do both roles. Be
the brides, may be there for them on the day,
and kind of just be their biggest cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Because this is a really big part of someone's life.
Do you ever feel like they get a bit attached
to you, because I feel like this is almost like
hiring a best friend. Is there a bit of like
you kind of have to bring people back down to
be like, all right, don't keep texting me at three am,
you know, babe, Like, let's keep this to business hours.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, And I think that's where the term professional brides
maid comes in or a professional best ye, which is
our tagline. And we, of course we're there for them
for whatever they need, but there is a contract at
the end of the day, and that contract says what
the scope of our work is and ultimately it is work.
And luckily we've never had to sort of draw that
line with anybody. But again, I think it's because we
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have such a good contract and they really do. They're
just so grateful to have us there for them throughout
this really crazy time in their lives.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, for some of them would be such a long process.
How do you like let them go at the end,
and we're like, of you go, it's done now, fine.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We let softly slowly. Well, they paid beforehand, that's most
wedding suppliers request payment beforehand. But no, I mean we'll
touch base with them a little bit afterwards as well
to say thank you so much for having us. It
was so great to meet you and to be part
of such an amazing day. We wish you all the
best for your future together.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So there is want to get married again? Give you
know where to find her? Happy to help you out?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, discounts ten percent second time around.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Has anyone ever tried to like really be like no,
but who are you? Because the same thing happens to
me when they're like what's your real name? Like arts
the bot and they're like no, they're like what's your
real name? And they get really angry like someone Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, Actually there was one time I was a bridesmaid
at a wedding and it was agreed that I wouldn't
tell anybody that I was hired. And one of the
groom's friends was very key. This is back in my
single days. Just in case my fiancee is listening. He
is very keen on me and very keen to get
my Instagram and my phone number. And it didn't matter
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how much I pushed him away and how many questions
I fended off, he just popped back up again with
another question and another glass of champagne. That I would
keep saying no to take a hint. And yeah, that
got a bit tricky because obviously my client didn't want
me telling that I was hired, but if he got
my Instagram profile, it says hire a bride's maid under it,
So a little bit tricky.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You need a dummy profile, honestly, I should. You need
to have a dummy Instagram and you you know you can.
It can still be cursing and it would spell it
slightly differently. I like that and then you could, you know,
fill it with lots of things. You could have the
best fake life. What do you want to be from Quebec?
I don't know. So exciting? Maybe your foundational wrong climber.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, hello, I am a big kind qrist. Oh god,
no one would believe that accent.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh it must be crazy. Like you know, people would
get pretty bloody rowdy at weddings and after parties and
then everyone's like, I have a drink coming here, and
you're like, no, it's fine, Yes, i'm working. I'm working.
But you can't say you're working though. If you can't,
how do you navigate that? Because I always just hold
a drink and then they can't give me one because
I'm holding it. I'm like, I've got one, baby, it's fine,
(18:26):
I've got one here it is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh, but that one's warm, here's another one. No making No,
it's fun same thing. So either hold a drink or
say I don't drink that people usually call with that,
or do kind of what the pregnant people do when
they're trying to hide it and have something that looks
like a drink, some sort of fancy cocktail.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, that's the other thing I say to people. They say,
why aren't you having a drink? I said, Oh, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yes, mine's a food baby rough, it's not real baby.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I have an appointment with the porcelain bowl very soon,
and then we'll be given birth. Don't you worry? If
they want to know, they want to know. How many
weddings do you think you've been in? Personally? As like
a bridesmaid standing up there next.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
To the bride a lot, so the whole NDA thing.
This gets a bit tricky to say exactly how many,
because we don't want anybody finding out exactly who was
hired and who wasn't more than twenty?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Wow, how many ugly dresses have you had to wear?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
More than twenty?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No, I'm pretty lucky. People look pretty nice. I mean,
I'll never complain, and there is a team of us,
so it's not just me that doesn't anymore. Yes, but yeah,
I've been pretty lucky. People are kind of like, what
would you feel comfortable wearing? And really the answer is
whatever you want me to wear?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah? Do they get boring after all that?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well not for me. I've been doing it for nearly
ten years. But I love weddings, and every wedding is
so different, Every couple is different, we all have different tastes.
I've never been bored. Let's just say that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You just love love? Do you love love? Love?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And now I'm doing my own wedding and so that's
a whole other thing too.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And yeah, are you going to hire in some bridemaids?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Are you available?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Don't tell anyone. I'll just be sad there the whole.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Time and be like we've known each other for years.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Let me get my notebook. Yes, Kristin, Yes, me and
Kirsten many friends. Good, it's got to be some kind
of horror stories. It's wedding town, you know. And I
know you've got your NDAs, but maybe talking generalized terms
of there any things that have gone absolutely wrong and
(20:27):
you're having to like make it work and fix it all.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, Look, things go wrong at nearly every wedding. And
I don't say that to scare people. I say it
because it's the nature of any big event where you're
bringing together a lot of people. We've had bridesmaids break
ankles on the dance floor and then just continue to
party all night. And you know, we've had dress disasters,
glasses of red wine all down the dress and you know,
some people go, ah, my dress, and the others go, oh, no,
(20:54):
it's fine, I'm here, it doesn't really matter. So yeah,
all sorts of things. I think some of the craziest
things that have happened and have been yeah, people just
getting very drunk. Like last weekend, I was guarding the
wedding cake from a guest who was a little bit
rowdy a little bit early on. So you know, I'm
on the dance floor. Seriously, is that another Lord of
the Rings? So it's Lord of the Wedding Rings?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Lord of the Wedding Rings.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
A new business.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Write that down.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah. So I mean it's usually things just where people
get together and things go wrong. We've had flooding, We've
had to change and find new venues at the last minute.
We've had flowers turn up that are the wrong color,
and that's sort of where we step in and we go, yeah,
we're here to fix it. Doesn't matter that much to you.
All right, let's come up with a solution. And often
we fix it before the couple even have to know
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Is it usually just like one of you? Or is
there sometimes you know, a bunch of you hidden throughout
engine throughout.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Usually it's just one when we're hired to be a bridesmaid,
but on a wedding day we're coordinating. For example, there
could be a team of us if that's required, but
the other girls are more behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I would love if you're like head bride's made hit
in the party and you've got like a little earpiece
in and you're like, you know, it's getting voices an
intel from all around. You're like, yeah, all right, and
you're actually talking into your flower or your corsage, and
you're like ten o'clock that some come towards the wedding cake,
towards the wedy cake. This is the wrong track. Play
the different track. Go Okay, so earlier you did say
(22:22):
I had the job, but I think I need some
work experience. So I want you to pretend that you're
the bride. Okay, but you are a bride sealer okay, ye,
you got it in you. You got it in you,
And I want you to give me some issues that
like a bride's deialer would come to you with, and
I'll see if I can sort them out for you
and see if like my solution and problem solving is
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good for the brand. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I reckon? Yes, I'm gonna struggle with this, but yes, okay, right.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Girl. Oh I'm so angry because you're you're a bride sealer.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Art. Why are the flowers the wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Because you're color blind? Bitch? Get over it? My god,
it's your eyes. The flowers are exactly the color. That's
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, I think that was perfect. I think exactly how
we've trained the team to handle that situation.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Kirsten isn't the creator of a Lord of the Rings,
the music or no ses a professional bridesmaid and after
speaking to you, how you know what? I reckon? I
could do that too, So slap an ugly dress on
me and I'll smile at your wedding four days. I'll
see you there. You've been listening to an iHeart Australia
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We are surrounded by people that we know but we
don't really know, like a bland coworker. Let's call it Sandra.
You know, the type wears the same drab clothes day
in and day out and has the personality of a
wet sock. We all have a Sandra in our lives.
But what if Sandra was an international woman of mystery,
or spent her nights as an erotic dancer, or had
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a different side to her that you didn't see that
actually made her interesting. Well, I'm taking it upon myself
to find that Sandra's of the world. Hello. I'm Artzimone
and this is Concealed, where I uncover the interesting lives
of seemingly average people. Let's meet our guests hit it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hello. My name is Kirsten. I am thirty three years old.
I live in Sydney and I used to work in
real estate sales. I have always loved musical theater and
my favorite things to do are to hang out with
my fiance and to play with my cat. I am
concealing something about my job, something that I do that
up until I started my business, I had no idea
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that it actually was a real profession.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I like kissing how are you good?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I am doing so well now that I know your
fond of the pussy, I am so you are one
of my people. It's exciting. Now let you get a
good look at you that. Oh now, yes meow indeed?
All right? What's around your neck? Can you just show
you around your neck? It might be a clue. I've
got to look just a necklace, yeah, but it could
be anything. What is on the end a talisman?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't know, or a gryffindor charm?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh, yes, a gryffindor charm. Oh you are a gryffindor.
I am I'm a slitherin. That's not what's next to
it is not? It is not. But if a snake
was pretending to be like a juguar, that's the noise
they would make. But beautiful, yes sir?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Did you have nails? Oh? It's oh nice? Yes, Oh
they're like a nice pearl finish on them.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I can see it all the way from here. I
love Okay, and fiance. Tell me about fiance. How'd you meet?
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We met on hinge online?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh that would be rather recent than because he just
like a slightly Newish one Newish.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
We've been together for two and a half years now,
and we got engaged on our second anniversary.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Oh my god, stop it. How do you do it?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He blurted it out very quickly. I think he got
nervous right at the second. But he was down on
one knee and it was in a box, and it
was actually at the place where we first met. It
was very sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And where did you first meet?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We met by the beach in Crinella, which kind of
where I'm from beach things.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, okay, do you like the beach. This could be
a clue. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I do like the beach. Yes, I go to the
beach most mornings.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What are your thoughts on sand?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, it is a necessary evil of the beach.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
She's got to take the good with the bad. Okay, yes,
I mean sometimes I'm like, it's not worth the sand.
I'll go to a pool, but then the pool that
someone might take a shit in the pool, and then
it's like, oh no, I mean they can do it
that well. I mean animals just ship, yeah, animals just
shipping the sea anyway, So okay, Well, maybe pools aren't
very good. Okay, sea salt scrub. Maybe maybe going to
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the ocean would be good to take off my makeup,
you know, because.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's good for you. Yes, exfolliance, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And what's your cat's name?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Her name is Princess.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh, of course, Princess beautiful. And how princess?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
She's an old girl now she's fourteen.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And is she yours?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
She is mine? Yes, she's spent many years living with
my parents, but she's my cat.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, good, okay, Well we like Princess Beautiful okay. And
musical theater. What's your favorite musical?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh? Too many to list, but I'm currently on a
Waitress phase. Do you know musical?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I haven't seen Waitress, but I know of Waitress.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh, it's based on the movie and the music is phenomenal.
Sarah Berrelli's rights it also.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yes, Yes, I just saw Beauty and the Beast in
the opening in Sydney. It was incredible. The production, the production.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's the costumes and the staging. For me, it's amazing
what they can do.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It was incredible. Yes, so go and check it out
if you haven't, it's a good one. Now, real estate,
what made you go into real estate? I'm worried is
there a bit of a stigma around when you say
real estate to people.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's actually why I left. Oh okay, yes, yes, So
my dad was a real estate agent and I initially
just started working on reception while I was at university,
and then I thought this is a good way to
make some money and then I'll go back to UNI.
And I never went back. I was in real estate
for seven and a half years.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh my goodness. Yeah. I feel like in real state
it'd be the bad guy a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, and that's what I didn't like. I didn't like
that stereotype of the person that they thought I was
before they really got to know me. So it's ultimately
why I left.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah. Look, it's not a good time to be a
real estate person in this especially in this state age.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Not at the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, no, lots so nasty emails being sent to people
about renting cross. Okay, I'm going to ask you three questions,
and from the answers to those three questions, I have
to determine what it is you're concealing from me today.
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I am ready?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay. Question number one, if you could bring back any
inanimate object that you lost, what would it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Be There is a ring that I lost when I
was overseas on holidays. I was swimming at the beach
of course.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Hmm, the ocean is coming back into play again. Okay,
wet things all write that down, Okay, So, yes, you
lost at the beach.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, when I was on holidays in Europe, very sad.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh Europe. Oh it's a euro trip, that's us. Where
in Europe.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Were you are Italy?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay? Question number two, what is your favorite smell?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Very specific?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
No, I love this.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Going back to musical theater. There is this one brand
of hairspray. I can't think of the name of it,
but it's the gold bottle, the gold can with the
white lid. That smell always takes me back to being
backstage at a show.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Gold can, white lid.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
The rund likes to huff fumes. Okay. And question number three,
If you could relive any moment of your life, what
would it be.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It is actually something you already asked me about my
proposal to my fiance Akiy with such a surprise. It
came out of nowhere, and it happens so quickly. I'd
love to just go back and really be present and
remember it all and maybe force him to say something
more than way mammy.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, al right, okay, wow, I said this week I
was going to get it, and I think I am.
But that's a If I don't get it, we don't
kick you off. It's fine. We're still going to talk regardless. Okay,
So let's recap. Okay, you're missing a ring, all right,
ring in the ocean. Ocean water beach, italy. Okay, ocean beach,
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little Lily dolemo Okay, yep, all right. And second favorite
smell is hair spray, huffing, hair spray, backstage, backstage hair spray. Okay,
backstage hair spray, hair spray, musical something musical, musical? Rings?
Is there a lot of the rings? The musical? Maybe
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that give it? And if you could relive any moment
in your life, what would be your proposal? Okay, it's
about marriage, marriage. Okay, it's like rings in marriage, something
to do with marriage. Okay, Now I'm going to go
back to my gartner. Right, have you written and produced
your own musical called Lord of the Rings the musical?
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What do you think?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Correct? How did you know? I am a professional bridesmaid?
I own a business called hire a bridesmaid. We have
a team of five and we attend weddings every single weekend.
What what is that? Sours are what?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
This is a job?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
A thing?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So Kirsten didn't create Lord of the Rings the musical.
She's in fact a professional bridesmaid? What what? What the
hell is a professional bridesmaid? Can I leave it? So
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we're here with Kirstin and unfortunately Kirstin hasn't written the
musical Lord of the Rings, but I hope she does eventually.
But you are a professional bridesmaid?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I have never heard of this in my life. Top line?
What is the professional bridesmaid?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Exactly? What it sounds like. It's somebody that is part
of a wedding, usually a bridesmaid, sometimes a groomsman, and
we're hired to be there.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is this something that you'd seen done before and you're like, oh,
I can do that too, or do you just make
this up?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I totally made it up. Oh yep, I just came
out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Is there anyone else in the world that does well?
They probably do now right, Okay?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
There is someone else that's actually another lady in the States.
She's based in New York, who does it, which I
only found out about her after I started my business.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So when did you start this business?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Twenty fifteen. It was a total accident. I was actually
m seeing a friend's wedding reception and all these things
were happening on the wedding day, and the bridesmaids and
I were running around and doing last minute tasks, and
it was forty degrees and the bride was out there
looking at tables and flowers, and I just thought, like,
this is crazy. A bride and her bridesmaids or a
couple and their friends shouldn't have to be doing these
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tasks on the wedding day. And I went home and
I was thinking about it, and I'm like, how do
I become something to do with weddings? And it wasn't
until the next day. I was talking to my mum
and I was explaining how well I wasn't a bridesmaid.
I was the MC, but it was like I was
a bridesmaid because I was helping. And my mom said, like,
you were hired to be a bridesmaid, and I went
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ding ding ding ding, that's it. And I literally put
that up on the internet thinking it would just be
MC Coordination Services, and then naturally someone googled and found
it and that was twenty sixteen, the inn of twenty
sixteen that someone found me.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Wow, and how many people do you employ within your group?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
There are five of us, five brads.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's a pretty good pad. Groomsmen as well, Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yep, we have groomsmen. We have best people wing women.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Whatever you need, I say, if I was auditioning for
a role of a brod's maid, you know, professional bridesmaids,
grooms person you know, what do you look for in
a candidate, Well.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You're hired for starters. That was easy. A lot of
it's got to do with personality and also do we
think that they're capable of managing other things on a
wedding day. It's not just about being you know, a
very small part of our job is standing there and
looking amazing in the dress that they give you or
the suit that they give you. The biggest part of
it is kind of knowing what to expect at a
wedding and just being there to guide somebody through it.
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So really it's not just about do I think this
person is auditioning who could do the job. It's like, well,
could they also be a wedding planner if required, and
they're the people that we hire.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you need to be good at a few little things,
I guess. But what kind of people need to hire
a bride's bait?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
All different people. Sometimes people hire us just because they
want to even out their bridal party. Sometimes people hire
us because they need someone to do the tasks on
the wedding day. That's another side of what we do.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's like you're in disguise, you're like undercover boss. What
do you correct? But I feel like people would keep
it quiet on the DL that they've got they're hiring
someone in their bridal party. You know, has to know.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Some people are happy to tell you know, their partner
or some of their family or the other bridesmaids groomsmen.
But a lot of the time, yeah, it is a secret.
We do offer them the option for us to sign
an NDA on their behalf if they wish, Yeah, if
they prefer we didn't say it. Yes, my business is
actually called hire a bridesmaid, So if you were looking
for one, it's pretty easy to google it.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And within the world of being a professional bridesmaid, what's
the scope of the work of what you do. Is
it sometimes just like hanging out and being part of
the group, or is it you know, let me know.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So it really depends on what the client wants. Sometimes
we help them plan their whole wedding from beginning to end,
and we love that because we really get to know
our clients well in that timeframe that can be up
to twelve months. Other times it's coming in closer to
the wedding when it comes to things like bridle showers
and hens parties and being with them throughout and just
kind of, yeah, going dress shopping with them, doing all
the fun stuff. And then we also have a hidden
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bridesmaid service where we just turn up on the wedding
day And as I said, that could just be to
fill out the wedding party, or it could be to
just be the person who's there for them on their
wedding day.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's a got a bit weird that, Like imagine if
you're at a hen's party and they're like, Hi, I'm Sandra.
We met Beverly you know, ten years ago, with their
prey out of you, and they go around the circle
and they go to you and you're like, I'm just
paid to be here.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, we wouldn't say that, but yes, it would be
funny if we did.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But does it get weird, like you know, like I know,
do you feel like an impostor No?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Not really. It kind of feels like you're doing someone
a really lovely service. There's a reason they've hired us.
It's because they want somebody who gets it. We've been
to lots and lots of weddings and they just want
someone who's there by their side. And you know, we
just try and keep their story simple. So if they
ask us a question that we don't know the answer to,
for example, that Hen's party situation where you're going around,
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how do you know them? We just have a backstory
that we've come up with and we stick to it.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
When you're going into these situations, do you find other
guests who are in on what you do? Do they
get territorial like you know, does the mother of the
brid get territorial? Or do the best friends being like, well,
I could have done that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think that's part of any wedding, any bride or party,
whether you know them or not, the biggest part of
our job is reading people and saying, Okay, well, that
person really wants to do that job. Let them do it.
You know, I don't need to be the one that
fixes the veil or fixes the dress or cleans the
lint off the suit. If someone else wants to do it,
we let them do it. That's totally fine.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I guess on the flip side too, you wouldn't be
called in to be doing these things if these people
had put the hand up right at the beginning to
do them all at the beginning. So it's really easy
to walk in be like, well, I would have done that,
and I would have done it really good. When will
you didn't, Babe?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yes, Sadly that does happen. Sometimes we're hired because they
do have good friends, but they're just not the level
of friend that would actually help them throughout the wedding planning.
So they get us in to do both roles. Be
the brides, may be there for them on the day,
and kind of just be their biggest cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Because this is a really big part of someone's life.
Do you ever feel like they get a bit attached
to you, because I feel like this is almost like
hiring a best friend. Is there a bit of like
you kind of have to bring people back down to
be like, all right, don't keep texting me at three am,
you know, babe, Like, let's keep this to business hours.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, And I think that's where the term professional brides
maid comes in or a professional best ye, which is
our tagline. And we, of course we're there for them
for whatever they need, but there is a contract at
the end of the day, and that contract says what
the scope of our work is and ultimately it is work.
And luckily we've never had to sort of draw that
line with anybody. But again, I think it's because we
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have such a good contract and they really do. They're
just so grateful to have us there for them throughout
this really crazy time in their lives.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, for some of them would be such a long process.
How do you like let them go at the end,
and we're like, of you go, it's done now, fine.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We let softly slowly. Well, they paid beforehand, that's most
wedding suppliers request payment beforehand. But no, I mean we'll
touch base with them a little bit afterwards as well
to say thank you so much for having us. It
was so great to meet you and to be part
of such an amazing day. We wish you all the
best for your future together.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So there is want to get married again? Give you
know where to find her? Happy to help you out?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, discounts ten percent second time around.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Has anyone ever tried to like really be like no,
but who are you? Because the same thing happens to
me when they're like what's your real name? Like arts
the bot and they're like no, they're like what's your
real name? And they get really angry like someone Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, Actually there was one time I was a bridesmaid
at a wedding and it was agreed that I wouldn't
tell anybody that I was hired. And one of the
groom's friends was very key. This is back in my
single days. Just in case my fiancee is listening. He
is very keen on me and very keen to get
my Instagram and my phone number. And it didn't matter
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how much I pushed him away and how many questions
I fended off, he just popped back up again with
another question and another glass of champagne. That I would
keep saying no to take a hint. And yeah, that
got a bit tricky because obviously my client didn't want
me telling that I was hired, but if he got
my Instagram profile, it says hire a bride's maid under it,
So a little bit tricky.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You need a dummy profile, honestly, I should. You need
to have a dummy Instagram and you you know you can.
It can still be cursing and it would spell it
slightly differently. I like that and then you could, you know,
fill it with lots of things. You could have the
best fake life. What do you want to be from Quebec?
I don't know. So exciting? Maybe your foundational wrong climber.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, hello, I am a big kind qrist. Oh god,
no one would believe that accent.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh it must be crazy. Like you know, people would
get pretty bloody rowdy at weddings and after parties and
then everyone's like, I have a drink coming here, and
you're like, no, it's fine, Yes, i'm working. I'm working.
But you can't say you're working though. If you can't,
how do you navigate that? Because I always just hold
a drink and then they can't give me one because
I'm holding it. I'm like, I've got one, baby, it's fine,
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I've got one here it is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh, but that one's warm, here's another one. No making No,
it's fun same thing. So either hold a drink or
say I don't drink that people usually call with that,
or do kind of what the pregnant people do when
they're trying to hide it and have something that looks
like a drink, some sort of fancy cocktail.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, that's the other thing I say to people. They say,
why aren't you having a drink? I said, Oh, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yes, mine's a food baby rough, it's not real baby.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I have an appointment with the porcelain bowl very soon,
and then we'll be given birth. Don't you worry? If
they want to know, they want to know. How many
weddings do you think you've been in? Personally? As like
a bridesmaid standing up there next.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
To the bride a lot, so the whole NDA thing.
This gets a bit tricky to say exactly how many,
because we don't want anybody finding out exactly who was
hired and who wasn't more than twenty?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Wow, how many ugly dresses have you had to wear?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
More than twenty?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No, I'm pretty lucky. People look pretty nice. I mean,
I'll never complain, and there is a team of us,
so it's not just me that doesn't anymore. Yes, but yeah,
I've been pretty lucky. People are kind of like, what
would you feel comfortable wearing? And really the answer is
whatever you want me to wear?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah? Do they get boring after all that?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well not for me. I've been doing it for nearly
ten years. But I love weddings, and every wedding is
so different, Every couple is different, we all have different tastes.
I've never been bored. Let's just say that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You just love love? Do you love love? Love?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And now I'm doing my own wedding and so that's
a whole other thing too.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And yeah, are you going to hire in some bridemaids?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Are you available?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Don't tell anyone. I'll just be sad there the whole.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Time and be like we've known each other for years.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Let me get my notebook. Yes, Kristin, Yes, me and
Kirsten many friends. Good, it's got to be some kind
of horror stories. It's wedding town, you know. And I
know you've got your NDAs, but maybe talking generalized terms
of there any things that have gone absolutely wrong and
(20:27):
you're having to like make it work and fix it all.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, Look, things go wrong at nearly every wedding. And
I don't say that to scare people. I say it
because it's the nature of any big event where you're
bringing together a lot of people. We've had bridesmaids break
ankles on the dance floor and then just continue to
party all night. And you know, we've had dress disasters,
glasses of red wine all down the dress and you know,
some people go, ah, my dress, and the others go, oh, no,
(20:54):
it's fine, I'm here, it doesn't really matter. So yeah,
all sorts of things. I think some of the craziest
things that have happened and have been yeah, people just
getting very drunk. Like last weekend, I was guarding the
wedding cake from a guest who was a little bit
rowdy a little bit early on. So you know, I'm
on the dance floor. Seriously, is that another Lord of
the Rings? So it's Lord of the Wedding Rings?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Lord of the Wedding Rings.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
A new business.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Write that down.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah. So I mean it's usually things just where people
get together and things go wrong. We've had flooding, We've
had to change and find new venues at the last minute.
We've had flowers turn up that are the wrong color,
and that's sort of where we step in and we go, yeah,
we're here to fix it. Doesn't matter that much to you.
All right, let's come up with a solution. And often
we fix it before the couple even have to know
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Is it usually just like one of you? Or is
there sometimes you know, a bunch of you hidden throughout
engine throughout.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Usually it's just one when we're hired to be a bridesmaid,
but on a wedding day we're coordinating. For example, there
could be a team of us if that's required, but
the other girls are more behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I would love if you're like head bride's made hit
in the party and you've got like a little earpiece
in and you're like, you know, it's getting voices an
intel from all around. You're like, yeah, all right, and
you're actually talking into your flower or your corsage, and
you're like ten o'clock that some come towards the wedding cake,
towards the wedy cake. This is the wrong track. Play
the different track. Go Okay, so earlier you did say
(22:22):
I had the job, but I think I need some
work experience. So I want you to pretend that you're
the bride. Okay, but you are a bride sealer okay, ye,
you got it in you. You got it in you,
And I want you to give me some issues that
like a bride's deialer would come to you with, and
I'll see if I can sort them out for you
and see if like my solution and problem solving is
(22:45):
good for the brand. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I reckon? Yes, I'm gonna struggle with this, but yes, okay, right.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Girl. Oh I'm so angry because you're you're a bride sealer.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Art. Why are the flowers the wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Because you're color blind? Bitch? Get over it? My god,
it's your eyes. The flowers are exactly the color. That's
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, I think that was perfect. I think exactly how
we've trained the team to handle that situation.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Kirsten isn't the creator of a Lord of the Rings,
the music or no ses a professional bridesmaid and after
speaking to you, how you know what? I reckon? I
could do that too, So slap an ugly dress on
me and I'll smile at your wedding four days. I'll
see you there. You've been listening to an iHeart Australia
Production concealed with utsimone. Listen to more of what you
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