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May 9, 2024 54 mins

Pavle Jeremic wants to end resource scarcity by literally rearranging atoms. Inspired to build a better, more abundant future after witnessing violent conflict in his parents’ native Yugoslavia, Pavle launched Aether Biomachines in 2017 at just 21 years old. Since then, he’s successfully led the protein engineering startup to the cutting edge of nanotechnology, working to solve our planet’s resource scarcity problem. 

Today, Pavle and Aether are combining protein synthesis, machine learning, and nanoscale engineering to rearrange atomic structures, enabling everything from impact-free resource extraction to self-healing materials.  

Hear why at such a young age, Pavle became obsessed with building a future of abundance, what it takes to scale a true deep tech startup, and how Aether Biomachines is turning science fiction into reality.

Episode Highlights

00:00 Pavle on using machine learning models to rearrange atoms

00:38 Conor Gaughan introduces Pavle Jeremic and Aether Biomachines

04:23 Protein engineering, growing up around scarcity, and interest in science

07:36 Synthetic biology, UC Santa Cruz, and genetic engineering projects 

16:16 Origin of Aether Biomachines, its long-term view, and its product categories

26:10 Storytelling in science, what industry Aether sees itself in, and defining “machine”

33:12 Deep tech, scarcity vs abundance, core pillars for scaling impact

41:22 Current problems, future solutions, and balancing the two

46:37 Exciting climate innovations to watch 

52:04 Where to learn more and end credits

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