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September 19, 2023 48 mins

In this episode:

  • Catherine Pakaluk joins the podcast to discuss her forthcoming book, Hannah’s Children, about women having large families amongst a culture of childlessness
  • the limits of economic and family policy in reversing the falling birthrates, and what really drives our demographic decline
  • Marlo and Catherine talk about the various joys and challenges that come with motherhood, both of one child and of many children

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