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May 16, 2025 26 mins

Abbie and Adrian discuss the value of postgraduate degrees, questioning whether formal education is necessary for success in today’s job market.

Abbie emphasizes that while she values her Master's degree for personal growth, she believes that education doesn’t always have to come from traditional institutions. She talks about the importance of trade skills, the evolving nature of professional qualifications, and the need for continuous learning, regardless of the format.

Adrian encourages listeners to think critically about their educational paths and the skills required in their desired fields before jumping into a postgraduate degree program. He also argues that "Return On Investment" is not the only factor to consider.

Curiosity and practical experience--the ability to DO things, not just KNOW things--often weigh heavily in hiring decisions. Abbie concludes the episode by talking about some of the qualities she looks for when hiring employees at HMA Public Relations.

Read the transcript and notes for this episode on our website.

Key Takeaways

  • While higher education was once viewed as a guaranteed pathway to prosperity, current discussions often question its true value in today’s job market.
  • Continuing education can take many forms, and formal degrees are not the only way to gain valuable skills and knowledge for various careers.
  • The conversation around the necessity of degrees is evolving, with many fields favoring skills and experience over formal qualifications.
  • As industries change, the importance of hands-on experience and continuing education remains, highlighting the need for adaptation in career paths.
  • Employers increasingly value curiosity and practical experience, suggesting that real-world skills can often outweigh formal academic achievements in hiring decisions.

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Need to hire a PR firm?

We demystify the process and give you some helpful advice in Episode 19: "How to Hire a Public Relations Agency in Arizona: Insider Tips for Executives and Marketing Directors."

Credits

Copper State of Mind, hosted by Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre, is a project of HMA Public Relations, a full-service public relations and marketing communications firm in Phoenix.

The show is recorded and produced by the team at Speed of Story, a B2B communications firm, and distributed by PHX.fm, the leading independent B2B podcast network in Arizona.

If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like the PRGN Presents podcast, hosted by Abbie Fink, featuring conversations about PR, marketing, and communications with members of the

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