December 18, 2024 • 58 mins
Ever wondered how the body rebels against the cold, like a neighbor with a rare condition? We share our tales from a snowy Central New York, using personal experiences with Raynaud's phenomenon and herpes outbreaks to highlight the surprising power of mindset in managing chronic conditions. Join us in exploring the profound journey of healing by embracing our human experiences, focusing on self-compassion, and practicing self-care. We invite you to discover how these principles can lead to resilience and transformation.
Our conversation also ventures into the complexities of subconscious triggers and behaviors shaped by past traumas. We challenge the confines of traditional talk therapy, advocating for holistic approaches like somatic healing. By exposing the destructive patterns that unresolved issues can yield, we emphasize the importance of breaking these cycles for authentic emotional recovery. Through shared stories of personal growth, we reflect on the power of reshaping subconscious beliefs and embracing the narratives born from our experiences—paving the way for true healing.
We then question prevailing spiritual practices, questioning whether techniques like meditation and mindfulness truly foster self-awareness or are mere distractions. We argue for a genuine spiritual connection that integrates both the physical and spiritual realms, emphasizing the necessity of presence. Our discussion spans privilege, patterns of abuse, and navigating loss, urging a conscious embrace of the human experience. Through these reflections, we encourage a journey toward enlightenment and higher consciousness, challenging listeners to make informed choices rooted in presence and awareness.
Lynn Louise has been helping women all over the world for over a decade. Her Evolution 10X Method combines Energetic Intelligence, Quantum Science and the Brain, and Fundamentals Strategy to help you quiet your mind, uplevel your consciousness, so you can live a life of deeper fulfillment and purpose.
Lynn Louise is a Master Certified Hypnotist, Telepath, Shapeshifter, Multidimensional Traveler, and Coach driven by a powerful mission to help others. Her approach is unlike any other mentor's you have experienced. So, if you are ready to collapse timelines and create the business of your dreams - buckle up!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
good morning.
Hey, can you hear me better?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I heard you last time , but let me listen more here.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Let me unplug my microphone and then plug it back
in, okay this is without.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is with.
I think this is with.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, this is with.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's better, it's clear.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, welcome to the cosmic Valkyrie podcast.
This is the first day of snowin central New York.
I'm so excited.
And it's still snowing, so weget all excited.
The first day of snow and myhusband was like I want it to
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stay off, I want donuts.
So I did, I stay in my pajamas,I take him down to get donuts
and then we were just likerelaxing and having coffee.
But we love snow, we love snow,I love cold.
You know that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I wish I was with you there.
I'm not the cold fan.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
My neighbor, bethany, that lives across the street
from us.
I don't know why I told you hername.
You're not going to know her,but she has this Good old
Bethany Just kidding.
Oh, bethany, she has this raredisease.
I think this is really wildthat when her skin is exposed to
snow she breaks out, or coldweather she breaks out in hives,
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and the medical industry she'shad it since she was a child.
The medical industry wasignoring it for a long time but
she said, within the past sevenyears they are recognizing it as
a real thing, like more andmore people have it.
She said she could hold a icecube to her finger, whatever arm
, and remove it and she wouldget a hive right there.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
The body's response is so interesting, right, like
clearly, that skin and the bodyis saying this is dangerous.
Let's have a histamine reactionor you know whatever it is.
But you know I have.
I have Raynaud's, which makesmy fingers and toes.
They literally turn ghost white, like sometimes.
Honestly, I was told, okay,when I was first, when I first
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started, it was like my earlytwenties and I was basically
told by a doctor it's a, it's animmune system thing.
It's like a, an immunedysfunction, and you're going to
have it your whole life and itwill never go away.
Then I went on a retreat inMount Shasta and there was this
older woman and I you knoweveryone was jumping into a
freezing cold river and I'm likeI can't do it because my
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fingers and toes will go numb.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And she said oh, I used to have Raynaud's, but I
cured it, I healed it.
Oh, that's what I was going toask you Because it's so curious
to me.
I saw a post earlier today andI myself let's talk about this
because first, first, when I wasin Mexico the last time, I was
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assaulted by a man and I gotherpes on my mouth because of it
, and so every year after likemultiple times a year, I would
have this breakout.
So one I did research on likewhat might trigger it and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But also I was like, as I evolved and like, became
the cosmic Valkyrie, I was likeI'm fucking taking this shit
down.
Okay, this is a great lesson,yeah.
So I decided I was going tomanifest it out of my life, and
so one thing that happens I doknow that it is situational,
right the power of the mind,maintaining a calm inner
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presence, will reduce the riskof having it.
I was involved in that carwreck and then, because I was in
and out of consciousness, mybrain was just like struggling
to stay alive.
I noticed for a couple of yearsafter I would get it, and it's
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probably been two and a halfyears, two years, since I've had
it.
Here's the thing, though likeI'm like, yeah, I manifested
that shit away, but I don't careif I do get one.
I'm not going to judge myselfon being a bad manifester
because my body like, thank youRight.
It's like stressed out and it'slike, oh my God, I'm too cold.
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Or I'm like whatever, whateverit's going through or whatever
situation I'm going through,which, surprisingly, I didn't
get one, moving my mom here.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Can everyone just like listen again to the lesson
that Lynn Louise just shared.
Right, she manifested it away.
It's been two and a half yearsand you know what happens if she
gets one.
It does not mean that she's abad manifester.
It doesn't mean that it didn'twork.
So how do you hold it whensomething like that comes in?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It didn't work, so how do you hold it when
something like that comes in.
So one I focus on my body.
I'm like, oh, poor baby, Likeyou're going through something
and a lot of the times, becauseI don't really like.
I do stress out, I'm not amiracle person and we all need
to understand that we're stillhaving this human experience.
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So there are going to be times,like when moving my mom, when I
was stressed out, I was tryingto catch up on my hypnosis
clients, I was trying to get mymom situated here.
We're trying to wrap up someloose ends in our den renovation
, Like a lot was happening.
I didn't get one.
Then Didn't get one then yeah,but if I would have, I would
have been like, oh man, you'restressed out.
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You know there's a lot going on.
It's okay that it came up.
Whatever's going to happen,it's going to happen.
It used to happen when theclimate would change, so it
would get really dry.
Same thing I had eczema andit's a blood disease, right, so
it's always with you.
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I didn't get it until my late30s, early 40s.
I've not had a case of it inprobably a decade or more.
But if I got it this winter I'dbe like, oh, it's super dry
Like.
What's the result of this?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Right.
We're not attributing all thismeaning and using it to then
knock ourselves down a peg.
Prove that we're not goodenough, prove that the
manifestation doesn't happen,because I will tell you, I
haven't had any symptoms ofRaynaud's in years, in years.
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When she told me that I wasjust like well then, I'm going
to heal it.
And so, listen, I have to bringhand warmers and I have to wear
mittens.
You're taking care of it Evenwhen I didn't believe I could
cure it.
I used hand warmers and mittensand I would still get it.
That's the difference.
And you know what would happenif I got really cold and my
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fingers went numb?
I'd be like, wow, maybe I needextra hand warmers.
Not, I didn't cure it, and I'ma bad person Like this is where
pardon my French we fuckourselves over with our
manifestations every single time.
Right, this is the way that Iview it.
Anything that we change, youever notice that it comes back.
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It comes back.
We can change it for good, butwe're always going to have these
opportunities to address it, tochoose who we are, to choose
what we want.
Again and again.
Some people say it's thedefinition of insanity and
you're repeating the same thing.
It's not, because every time itcomes back, you are
experiencing it from a new levelof consciousness, a new level
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of awareness.
I think of it like a spiral andI think of, every time, those
things that we fixed that cameback and the things that we
healed that come back.
It is an opportunity for us todeepen our trust in ourselves,
to reestablish what it is thatwe want, who we are, what we
believe and what we choose.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Ooh, I love that it's a spiral.
It's like the whole thing ofloving yourself, no matter what,
no matter what that's it.
It's like the cold sore orherpes or whatever doesn't
define my personal power, right?
And it's like aren't we alljust trying to achieve cosmic
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level consciousness, not thisthree dimensional?
And yes, it is represented inour surroundings, but I love
that you brought up like we'renever the same person.
Like, if I'm going to get a coldsore again or herpes, I'm not
the same person that I was, eventwo years ago or when it
happened, right.
So my reaction to it hasevolved and that's the big thing
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.
Like I, last time I got it, itwasn't like oh my god, like I
wasn't beating myself up, I wasjust like, oh, this poor little
physical body.
You know, I know you're goingthrough a lot.
I know you're going through alot.
This is temporary, it'll goaway and I'm going to do
everything I can to make youcomfortable during it.
Right, I used to be that personthat I broke my arm once and I
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was like goddamn arm, like Iwould just talk shit to my body.
I was just like so angry withit.
And it was that incident that Irealized, oh my God, you are so
mean, like stop talking to yourarm that way.
And so I was like oh, baby, I'mso sorry you're broken, let's
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take care of you.
Like I started talking to mybody differently and it really
does add a different perspective.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I mean, like you said, it'slike self-love, there's
compassion there.
You know what else is comingthrough, right, like I had an
eating disorder for many yearsand there were a few years where
I was, you know I was done withit, but then I would have like
a little relapse, right.
And if I would have taken everytime I had a relapse, like like
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that was the end, I wouldprobably still have an eating
disorder now.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's kind of like AA right.
Like when they're like you'realways an alcoholic.
So when somebody like has arelapse, then they're like you
got to start over.
It's like no, no, no, you don'tLike it's not starting over,
it's continuing your journey inthis lifetime and those
decisions every moment of everyday.
We have the possibility tochoose, but it does all go back
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to that core identity.
Like if I was still identifyingthat herpes as a sign of from
being a victim of a violentcrime, it would materialize much
different in my presence.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh, yeah, for sure, you know, and I would hold
different meanings to that, or ascar or whatever it might be
right, Like we can choose to andthat goes, I think we can
choose where we want to ourperspective of things.
And yeah, really, like thereare so many people that identify
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as healing as something that'shard and takes a long time and
it's going to be tumultuous,right, and it doesn't have to be
.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That that I think you're so right.
I think that's a reallyimportant paradigm shift that
people have the opportunity tochoose if they want to step into
it.
But I also think it's where alot of healers get stuck in
their messaging because they'reselling healing and most people
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associate healing with it.
Healing is hard, hard work andit takes a long time, so they're
inadvertently reinforcing, likethey're kind of repelling,
people with their messaging.
Does that make sense?
Oh, you're going to heal.
Everyone's like I don't fuckingwant to heal, that's the work.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
On the other side, it's the work.
It's like, oh, that's what Iwant to do, the work Right.
And it doesn't sound like fun.
Like I don't want to fuckingheal.
That sounds miserable.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No, because to heal we have to go deeper into the
shit.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, we got to get dirty.
Who wants to do that?
And you know, I think that thiswhole perspective of healing
taking a long time has come tous from the talk therapy
approach.
Oh yeah, fucking talk therapy.
There is a place for it.
Don't get me wrong.
There is a definite place forit.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
There is a definite place for it and I did it, and I
did it for years and I was inand out of therapy and on and
off of medication and itdefinitely had its place, but
what I found is it never wentdeep enough and I was never.
That's a power of coachingcoach to a point point or like
it was like I was reliant onthem healing me, not my
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participation, and going deeperLike they.
I'm a homework girl, like I'mlike, tell me what to do and
I'll do it.
But going to talk therapy, theynever gave me homework.
Okay, we'll see you next week.
What good was this?
I was sitting around cryingabout an experience I had, but
nothing has changed.
I haven't changed my opinion ofit.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's so interesting because I totally agree that
there's a place for it, rightLike there is a place especially
.
I think it's an important placefor people who are very, very
repressed and have not actuallyidentified the root cause of
some of the struggles thatthey're having in the current
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time.
So to go back and look at, ohwell, maybe this thing in my
past is why I'm feeling that way, but I don't think staying
there is healthy.
And I, you know like I comefrom a therapy.
Well, I come from a therapyhousehold.
I was in therapy when I was twoand a half years old, in art
therapy.
My mother, my father, was anaddict and my mom said you're
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going to therapy, I don't carehow old you are.
So I was in therapy my wholelife.
In some ways, it was reallyreally helpful, right?
It helped me to stay aware andin touch with myself.
It also taught me how to speakabout my feelings without
feeling them.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I was really good at that.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I was one of the really really good therapy
patients yeah.
I was that way too.
And so, through my coachingtraining and my coaching
experience, if I were to go totherapy now and like since then,
right, I started coaching in myearly 20s and I'm in my mid 30s
, you know, in that time thetherapy I would go in and I
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would say I'm going to start bytelling on myself.
I'm a really good client.
I'm going to tell you all thethings that you want to hear.
I've reframed everythingalready.
I understand all the psychology.
My background is in psychology,you know, but I've never been
moved forward by talk therapy?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I hadn't either, and my story goes like I was doing
the therapy, I was doing allthose things right, and I would
be good for three months, sixmonths, maybe a year, and then
everything would feel like it'sfalling apart, and then I would
create more.
That was falling apart, right.
The last time I went intotherapy it was during my divorce
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, and it was really good.
She was like you get rid ofyour baggage really quickly.
And I'm like, yeah, one, I doy'all.
But at the same time nothing onthe inside was changing Right.
So I got rid of all thatbaggage and I moved on.
But how long was that going tolast?
So it lasted about maybe sixmonths and then I was back in my
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depression, my anxieties, myoverwhelm, my discomfort, and
then at that point I was like Ican't fucking do it again.
It's like I going back eitherto the same person or normally
what would happen is, oh, thatperson moved, or that person is
no longer with us, or whatever.
So then it's like starting overand I'm like this just isn't
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working.
I don't want to see the rest ofmy life in and out of therapy.
There is a place for it, but itis not for me.
I do want to say I think thattalk therapy world is changing
and there are more like I haveclients that are psychiatrists
and psychologists that approachthings very differently with
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like what is it Somatic?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
healing and stuff like that.
I think I do think that it'schanging.
It's a progressive field ingeneral, right, it's about, it's
about the human experience.
So I do agree that it'schanging, thank God, like what
it was 20, 20 years ago.
When you go and like you're,you're telling the same story
again and again and again.
And, just like you said, it'schanging, thank god, like what
it was 20, 20 years ago.
When you go and like you're,you're telling the same story
again and again and again.
Right, and just like you saidit's like.
Then you stop, you find someonenew.
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Oh great, I have to go back tothe beginning with this.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh, and they all tired of the story.
Enough of the story.
And the thing, the cool thingis that I could talk about those
things without being attachedto it.
And, like in E10X, when I talkabout identity, right, I no
longer identified as a victim ofa violent crime.
I had gone through all that.
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So, like when I would talk aboutbeing sexually assaulted or
whatever, I had no emotionalattachment to it because it was
no longer part of my identity.
Yeah, yeah.
And so it was just like, oh,okay, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, here it is right.
And then they'd be like youhave no emotions attached,
you're blocking something, andI'm like, no, that was like
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fucking forever ago.
Yeah, but the thing that Ilearned when I started going
through and diving deeper isthat, while I no longer
identified as a victim of aviolent crime, none of my
subconscious stories, behaviorsand feelings wrapped around that
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had ever been resolved.
So I still would like.
If I would be triggered, thenmy subconscious would trigger
certain behaviors emotionallyeating, beating myself up with
over, exercising, like all these, like drinking too much, right.
So the behaviors that came frombeing a victim of a violent
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crime were still there and sothey were sabotaging me, but not
my identity of one.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, yep, and and those beliefs, it's, it's that's
interesting, right, causeyou're holding your identity,
and yet those but I mean itmakes sense, right the
subconscious triggers and allthose thoughts, they're still
behind it.
So I wonder, I mean that's whyhypnosis is so powerful right.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It's like so what's happening is you know there's
that event, then you, then yourbrain forms all these belief
systems to keep you safe, andthen your subconscious goes hey,
let's, let's do behaviors right, let's put some behaviors
behind it.
So this is why, as a runner, Ican say that with complete
honesty.
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This is why people will say, oh, running's, I do it for my
mental health.
That really gets me all,because one of the things when
you are reacting, when you getstressed, anxious, whatever, if
you're distracting with running,it's the same as distracting
with overeating, right, likebinge eating.
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You're still distracting fromit.
So you're going to be good for30 minutes when those endorphins
are still racing or whatever,but then, immediately when they
wear off or when somethingtriggers you back into stress,
what are you going to do?
You're going to find the nextdistraction what should I eat
for lunch?
Where should I go?
Should I go out with the girls?
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For you know, to blow off somesteam, it's going to start
wanting to find that nextdistracting behavior.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And that's the cycle and that's which is also why, oh
, I didn't get to run this weekand I'm having such a horrible
week.
Right.
Yes, it's like yeah and listen.
There are worse things tochannel your energy into.
Right, Like worse things.
But I.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
just running can destroy you just as much as
emotional eating.
I'll tell you, it almostdestroyed me.
It doesn't matter Distractingbehavior, distracting it doesn't
matter distracting behavior.
Distracting distracting is youcan't run enough to feel the
feels, right, right and um.
It was like such a definingmoment in my evolution was that
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moment that I was like fuck, Istill have all these habits and
belief systems formed from myfirst sexual assault.
Not that I'm not healed fromthat sexual assault, but it has
wrapped all these things, allthese stories and behaviors have
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been wrapped into how I live mylife so densely that it was
just like I would look at mylife and I'd go, wow, I wake up,
I drink my coffee, go for a run, depending on how stressed or
what I did the day before, it'sgoing to determine how long it
is, how many calories I ate, howmany, whatever, right, like
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obsessing about that.
It's going to determine howlong my run is, how fast my run
is, how intense it is.
And then I'd get home, I'd takea shower and I'd be good, and
then I'd get on the train and itwould be like busy or it's
running late, or it got stoppedand you know I'm going to like,
and then it'd start piling upand then I'd be like I'm going
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to go get a you know my smoothiefrom Jamba Juice and yeah, sure
, okay, that can be viewed thesmell of sugar and that shit.
But it can be like okay, I'mgoing to do a Jamba Juice or
breakfast burrito and then it'slike comfort food.
And then I'd get up to my office, I'd be fine until somebody
would like come in and hit mewith an employee, whatever.
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Somebody would like come in andhit me with an employee, just
whatever.
So my whole day, down to when Iwould fall asleep at night,
maybe drinking too much wine, oryou know, I was a terrible,
terrible, um, emotional eater.
I would finish eating one thingand be fine for like 10 minutes
and then be like now I needsomething salty, now I need
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something sweet, now I need todrink some wine because my sugar
levels are high and I'm likefreaking out.
It's a cycle.
Yeah, but I wasn't attached tobeing a victim, it was
everything that had come after.
It was so eye-opening, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And I think it's worth doing the.
It's really worth doing theroot cause work and it's not
hard.
I feel like the subconscious,like that's the irony.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's fucking easier than talk therapy and you know
one of the things that I see somany healers doing.
It's so much easier than talktherapy, so much easier.
One of the things that I see,the biggest distracting behavior
I see healers and coaches doingmeditating.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I got thoughts on that I got.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Thoughts Go on Meditating and getting grounded
so they get stressed and whilequiet time, meditation is a
great tool, it is a lifestyle,not a behavior, to avoid feeling
the feelings.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Tell me, tell me your opinion, okay I've got multiple
layers of feelings about it.
I completely I want to say atleast I mean, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna make up a number, but Ithink, like 70 of the of the
people I know who do meditateand do ascension things, they're
actually just bypassing,exactly Bypassing.
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Okay, and I think that it's afine line.
Okay, but if every time youfeel a bad feeling, you go right
to meditating, you are skippingover the juice.
You got to feel it to heal it.
It right, you have to go intoit, you have to write, you don't
have to stay there, but youdon't want to stay there right
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over over, but I have, I have abelief.
You can quote me.
This is gonna be my booksomeday.
Okay, let's dirty, let's do it.
Presence is the new mindfulness.
Boom, okay, this is my opinion.
Okay, mindfulness as a concept?
Right, this idea of?
Well, let's talk about likemeditation more than mindfulness
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.
Okay, this idea of meditation.
What are we doing withmeditating?
We're cutting off our thoughts,right, so we can go to a place
of emptiness.
It's very masculine, okay.
What's the ultimate goal ofmeditation?
Let's hear what you have to sayabout this.
I believe it's enlightenment.
Where is enlightenment?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh, I didn't know it was enlightenment.
Well that's how I see it.
Right, I'm going to tell you so.
I was one of those thatdistracted with meditation.
I was a big on my journey toenlightenment.
Meditation was like right inthere, I'm like oh, but I used
it to avoid feeling the feelings.
So my thing was to.
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My thing was oh, meditation isgoing to bring more calmness to
my life.
But calmness brings moremeditation.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, that's exactly it.
But see, this is my wholetheory, right?
Most of the religions that areout there, right?
Where is God Connection?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
to God Somewhere out there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Okay, somewhere out there Where's heaven Somewhere
out there.
Where's enlightenment?
Somewhere out there.
Everything is escaping thehuman body.
Get out of the body.
The body causes suffering.
The body is your prison.
Okay, the body is the feminine.
Okay, consciousness is themasculine okay okay.
So what have we done?
We've created a series of notjust, like you know,
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judeo-christian religions, butother things that are telling us
the worst thing you can do isbe in your body.
Your body can't be trusted,it's going to break down, you're
going to die, you're going tobe sick, you're not healthy, you
can't be with God because youare in your body.
So to me, right, the actualright, and I think the opposite
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of like all it is is my body andI'm without spirit.
That's also equally shit, right.
So to me, it's not aboutmeditation and having no mind.
It's actually about the deepestpresence within your body that
you can be, because when you aretruly present with your body,
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you are deeply connected tospirit as well.
To me, it's all about beingpresent.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's not about being mindful.
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Isn't it so interesting?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, Girl we got to like figure out how we're going
to work together, because Ithink our combination is like so
fucking on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's interesting because, like the cosmicness, to
me it's here and I love that,like your perspective and what
you've learned in your journeyas a priestess and feminine,
masculine energy and stuff is sodifferent than the journey that
I've embarked on Right, butit's like the same language,
just different ways Totally.
On right, but it's like thesame language, just different
(27:40):
ways totally.
And I really I were as humans.
Yeah, I see so many, so manypeople running to detach from
the physical form and I'm likeI'd say this a lot like no, come
back down here, you need tostay in here.
This is like what you came hereto do.
This is why I always say youfought to be human for this time
(28:02):
, like out of all the souls andall the universes and all the
galaxies, whatever, you foughtto be human in this life, be
present.
Stop trying to like.
This is where I seem, where Iwas with meditation, like I
would use it as an escape.
I would run to escape, I wouldeat to escape, I would do all
(28:22):
these things to try and escapethe human experience.
When you become more alignedand you like love yourself 100%,
then it's like no, I want to bepresent for it all and you are
still.
It's that whole secondattention thing, like I am more
than this physical body.
(28:43):
I am in multiple dimensions andmultiple attentions at one time
and therefore it creates, likethis, really internal calmness.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I love this conversation, I'm really
passionate about it because Ijust like you, like, just like
you're saying, like I just see alot of people escaping the body
and I, I'm, I'm here.
I'm here to remind people thatthe human experience is is
miraculous and perfect, with allof its shit and all of its
(29:21):
glory, and to me, we miss thatwhen we're trying to ascend
beyond it.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And I think, like when you were talking about the
indoctrination and the dogmaticreligions and stuff, and that I
always had a really hard timewith Christianity.
That's from a very early ageand I am definitely not
Christian, don't get me wrong.
I think Jesus was one of themost enlightened beings on this
(29:51):
earth, but the Christianreligion he would hate, but it
was always that misogynistic,like biblical, he, him, whatever
.
And now when you're describinglike that being masculine energy
(30:14):
and this being feminine energy,the body, I'm just my mind is
reeling in how we got there.
Yeah, how did we?
And you know it's all by men.
Men are the one that createdthat dogmatic bullshit.
And this is why I have such aproblem with the word
(30:34):
spirituality so many times andwhy I try to avoid using it,
because even in the spiritualworld I have seen it becomes so
dogmatic.
And like I made a post thisweek in my Facebook group about
like white men in robes, justlike that, like if you are in uh
(30:59):
, if you are following a manthat is a white man in a robe,
you're most likely in a cult,right?
like you're in a cult.
Call it what it is, um, but II'm like how, men, how did we
get here?
Why did?
Why?
Were they so afraid of us thatthey wrote us out of history,
(31:19):
off of the throne?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's just miraculous.
It's the power, right Like thepower to actually birth life.
Nothing can actually competewith that.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
They don't see their role within that, because women
can't give birth without a man.
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
But think about it.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
The only way a man can now we have paternity tests,
but for all of human history upuntil now, the only way a man
could ensure that baby is his isif he owns the woman who births
it you know, I have a friendthat studied, uh, biology, like
(31:59):
she got her doctorate in biologyand stuff, and we were talking
one time and she said,inherently, men are, um, non,
they're not monogamous, becausetheir whole, by a lot biology is
driven to impregnate women sothey can go out and they can,
(32:19):
like, have sex and they wantmore, more, more, more babies,
like that is their biologicaldrive.
But women can only get pregnantone by one man at a time, yeah,
and so women tend to be moreselective and aware of like
biologically.
(32:39):
I'm not talking aboutconsciously, right, we're
talking about the body's biology.
Right right right, right, right.
I was going to say well, arethey?
So you know?
So it's all about biology.
This isn't about consciousness,this isn't about awareness,
whatever this is like on abiological level female and
masculine animals, because thatis what we are, that's how we
(33:04):
operate.
Now, as humans, we have I justposted this too we have the
ability to choose, right?
I do want to say that choiceinsinuates, I think is the right
word consciousness.
(33:25):
So I often think about how doesconsciousness come into play,
this drive for higher evolution,like after like the achievement
from enlightenment, right,enlightenment gives it like, how
(33:45):
does all this play together andwhere does it come in?
Because there are stillprobably 90% of the population
that is walking around thatdon't know that they have the
ability to choose.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Or I mean here's the otherpiece, like who's doing the
choosing, like which part of ourconsciousness, right, which
kind of goes back to the workthat you do, which is it's the
idea, whatever your identity youhave, is doing that choosing.
So a lot of the choices are notconscious.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, I just think it like choice when we're using it
in the spiritual community.
Right, it implies choice,implies having consciousness
Right but Awareness.
Having consciousness, right,but awareness, awareness, yeah,
you have to become aware too.
(34:43):
I just I often think, but thenhow many of the people, even
within that community, have thelevel of consciousness to
understand the choices thatthey're making?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I don't think that most of us do, even myself
included right Like.
The choices that I make arebased on my level of awareness.
I'm not aware of everything.
I'm aware of what I'm aware of,based on my identities and my
subconscious beliefs.
So we are.
It's like relative choice.
(35:20):
The choice is relative to ourown understanding, and there are
people who, I think, arecompletely not conscious that
they can choose or that they arechoosing.
So that's the other side of it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And I'm just going to say it, reaching the level of
enlightenment that I have camefrom.
Privilege White people havemore privileges than any other
race because and that's just afact, and I see, and one of the
(36:11):
things that I feel so deeply isfinding people that are not
white to help and collaboratewith and like bring that to.
I just posted that I waslooking for a Tarot teacher and
there's so many white people andI'm like I wonder if there's
any that are in here tocollaborate with for telepathy
and Tarot.
But I'm like we have so manyprivileges and I think it's
really dirty to think that I'veheard this in the spiritual
(36:36):
community.
Well, you know that we don'tknow each other's karma, or blah
, blah, blah.
And you know we don't know howthat person came back into this
life.
And like I see a lot of victimblaming within the spiritual
community, like, well, theychose that before they got here.
Or you know, I can't even, Ican't even either, especially,
(36:58):
you know, can't even, I can'teven either, especially, you
know.
And and when it comes to liketaking, you know, domestic abuse
and all that shit, I'm likedon't fucking do that, like it's
really but you see it, it'slike I get.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I get where they're coming from, but it's not
fucking helpful when someone issuffering to tell them that you
chose to be the victim of rape.
What the fuck.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That's such a slap in the face and the thing is
that's the kind of likespiritual elitism detached, I'm
so conscious bullshit, that isit.
It's forgetting.
Hey, guess what, when you saythat to somebody who's hurting,
you're hurting them more.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And it's like.
The one thing that I know on mycore level is that we cannot
control what other people do orsay.
So having a victim mindset isnot the same as being a victim
of a violent crime.
There's a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Huge difference, such a good distinction.
Wait, so say it again.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Wait.
So say it again Having a victimmindset and being like me, me,
poor me, blah, blah, blah, blahis completely different than
being a victim of a violentcrime, right?
Because one is the actualphysical events and the other
one is your identity and yourbeliefs around it.
Yeah, and you can't escape thatbelief system until you escape
the reality of that relationshipor that event or that situation
.
And the only thing that yourbrain is capable of when you are
in a trauma is trying tofucking stay alive, and it's
going to do whatever it needs toto maintain that life, cause
(39:03):
that's what our brain is for.
So if that means complying tothe situation, then it's going
to comply.
Once you escape that situationwhich is very rare, right, the
the woman has the opportunity tobegin to heal, but through talk
, therapy or old mechanisms,right?
(39:23):
So, just like with alcoholism,the chance of her returning to
that violent because her brainhas been taught that's the norm,
that's the pattern, right?
You know?
And it will say anything thatit wants to say to make you
either go back or choose anotherpartner.
That's the same.
(39:44):
It likes patterns andpredictability.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah.
And what's crazy is how manypeople will hook back up with
someone that on the outside youwould never know it would turn
into that same pattern, andsometimes it even takes years,
but that pattern is still thereyeah so how much of our
subconscious is picking up onpatterns that are below the
(40:07):
surface, frequencies, peoplethat we choose, right, those
frequencies I've been.
I was thinking of, um, I wasthinking of this concept.
I don't know why we're talkingabout this.
I love the twists and turns, wego on right.
But I thought a lot about, like, what keeps somebody in an
abusive relationship.
(40:28):
And I remember a long time agomy mom said something along the
lines of I don't remember howshe said it, but she's basically
saying like I don't rememberhow she said it, but she's
basically saying like, yourconcept of yourself gets worn
down when someone is chippingaway at it for so long.
And I like to think of itthrough this concept of what I
call or actually it's a, it's auh, ocean, oceanography,
(40:55):
oceanography concept.
It's called shifting baselines.
The amount of life forms thatwere in the ocean 100 years ago,
that was the baseline for then.
If you compare what it is nowto, then this does not look
normal.
But all of us were born here.
This small amount of fish andthe small amount of marine life.
(41:18):
That's our current baseline.
And over time the baselineshifts.
What's normal shifts sosomeone's identity, how they see
themselves what they believethey are right, Especially if
you have somebody bombardingmessages that whittle away, that
really touch on your fears,that touch on your insecurities
long enough, that starts tobecome the reality, and once
(41:40):
that's the norm, that's thebaseline.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Everything that we have in our lives is actually a
reflection of what our baselineis, and think about it this way
Women are born into a world, nomatter where you're born into,
believing that you're inferior,that you're not as valuable.
It doesn no matter where you'reborn into believing that you're
inferior, that you're not asvaluable, it doesn't matter
where.
And then, through yourexperiences, the world itself
(42:06):
teaches you that and itcontinues to teach you that.
And then, if you're born into afamily, that's inherently the
line has been dad abuses, mom,grandpa abuse, grandpa, grandma.
You know, like, if you're borninto that consecutive line, then
that's another thing thatyou're being like, taught and so
you're not.
The likelihood of you being ableto break that pattern is so
(42:29):
difficult.
Right, there has to be somebodyin there Like my dad broke our
line.
He like he was abused by hismom, but he broke that line.
Like that didn't exist in ourhome.
Yeah, but it's not.
And I think that's what made iteasy for me, because chances
are that probably, uh, eight outof ten women have experienced a
(42:53):
violent partner.
That's the reality, and so Ithink that's why it was really
easy for me that when shit hitthe fan, I was like fuck all
y'all, I'm not cutting.
No, this is not cool and I willnot be coming back.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I mean we have.
There's more men out there thatare like that than are not, and
that's the reality that are,that are abusive, that think
women are less than so thelikelihood, even if you are a
strong, independent, beautifulwoman, the likelihood of you
being interacted with or havinga relationship with a abusive
(43:34):
man, no matter what degree, aremore likely than not man, no
matter what degree are morelikely than not.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, I think that men have been taught not to do
the overt behaviors, and somedon't give a fuck and they do
the overt, abusive behaviors.
But I think that, yes, there'sstill an undercurrent, at least
an undercurrent of superiority.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Well, and the abuse doesn't have to be physical.
Well, right, we know thatexactly.
And then you look at, look atthe uneducated population and
the amount of them that votedfor trump.
Yep, right.
So it's like there are more menin this country that are shit
(44:19):
shows than are not.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
There are also a lot of women who voted for Trump and
a lot of highly educated peoplewho voted for Trump.
So there's all kinds of shitgoing on, but that philosophy
right, what he represents, Ijust think that that's.
I don't know what to say aboutit.
(44:42):
It's like it's a part of humannature, it is a philosophy, it's
a philosophy of the world.
Take what you want, right?
It's a taking, it's aself-serving, it's abuse of
power.
Right To me, this, this is theparadigm of abusing power that
pops up and has popped upthroughout all of human history
(45:05):
in different cycles, and we'reat a cycle right now, not just
in America.
No, not just not just in America, where it's that style of power
.
Not all power is like this,right, but it's power over, not
personal power, no fuckingpersonal power there.
It's all power over Power overothers, which is why people get
(45:30):
away with abusing children, getaway with abusing women.
They get away with that becauseof that philosophy.
I it's.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
It's really the numbers um from I think it's the
un this year on the 10 womenone out of four women is
sexually assaulted.
Oh yeah, that's fucked up, buthere's the thing I want you to
(46:04):
know about those numbers toothat are reported, Reported.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Right, but here's the other thing that I was going to
say while you're looking thatup, right.
The other thing I wanted to saywas this it was not long ago
where the baseline of what ahusband was expected to do was
to discipline his wife with apunch in the face, if necessary,
or a push against the wall.
(46:28):
That was normal, and so, evenif you know you don't have abuse
in your family line yes, youfucking do.
All of us do.
Oh good point.
Good point All of us do, causethat's that was the baseline,
that was normal.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, oh, good point.
So every 10 minutes a woman orgirl is killed by their partner.
Now, two things I want you toprocess here.
One is that it's a partner.
Okay, one's a partner.
(47:08):
Second, that includes girls.
So married into an old, marriedto an older man, given away or
taken enslaved, right every 10minutes a female dies by the
hand of their partner.
Now there were also otherstatistics within there, like um
(47:30):
, uh, vaginal mutilation is up13, like all these things.
So the numbers are gettingworse.
The UN shows the numbers aregetting worse, not better, which
at first I'm like, oh, that'sso fucking discouraging.
It's like the fight, the fightis so hardcore.
(47:52):
But then I'm like isn't that?
Like doesn't that always happen?
Like shit gets way worse beforeit gets way better.
It gets better.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I always say it's like if you were holding someone
who was falling off a cliff.
The last seconds that theirhands are falling through, you
are grabbing with all of yourmight.
That's what this current powersystem is doing.
They're sure they got a bolster.
It can't last, can't last, it'snot going to last.
It's going to sure they got abolster.
(48:22):
It can't last, can't last, it'snot gonna last, it's gonna.
it might fucking suck yeah whilethey're, while the power is
there, it also might not be sobad.
I have no idea.
I can't imagine it will go well, but the future, we don't know
the future, we don't know thefuture.
But, however, it is up to us.
However, who have you everheard of somebody who has a shit
ton of power and they just wantto say you take my power.
(48:43):
Is that how power works?
I have to say, I'm not afraidof being rich, I'm not afraid of
being corrupted by money.
I do have a deep belief thatpower corrupts and I do wonder
how that impacts me and my.
I totally like.
So that's what I'd like to kindof come to neutrality with yeah
, so I have a um.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I have a friend that we had a conversation about this
and she has a doctorate andlike, just amazing, she's the
one that I wanted to dotelepathy and tarot with and we
were having a conversation aboutmoney and power, and I'm going
to tell you, most of the men,most of the people that I know
that have significant amounts ofmoney, will be the first to
(49:27):
tell you that they're not greedy.
Okay, which I'm like, isn'tthat like?
One of them was like trying toprove that he's modest, and I'm
like, well, a modest persondoesn't have to prove that
they're modest, doesn't a reallywealthy person not have to
prove that they're not greedy?
(49:47):
He who smelt it dealt it Right.
So I look at these men and womenthat are making billions and
I'm like how little they giveback and how little they do to
create change in the world.
And it's like okay, whatever,whatever.
But I was having a conversationwith her because she's really
(50:08):
smart like this, and she waslike so I believe that people
get to this level and when theyget to that level, it's all
about maintaining what they have.
It's no longer about and withinthat is greed anyway, because
they're so afraid of all thesethings that they've invested in
(50:29):
right, all these things thatthey have going on and all these
things that they're so afraidof losing it, that they're so
focused on maintaining thatlevel and that can create the
greed and I'm like that makes somuch sense.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Oh my God that resonates so much for me,
because I do have like fear ofloss is much scarier to me than
probably anything else.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, it's huge Right , like it's.
It's that whole.
I had a really good like I hadan eighty thousand dollar launch
Right, like it's that whole.
I had a really good, like I hadan $80,000 launch Right.
What brings up that fear?
Oh my God, what if I can'tmaintain it?
Can't do it again, right?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Or I can't do it again.
What if I'm fooling myself?
What if Right?
And you know what this isbringing up for me?
What is loss?
It's grief.
We are so grief illiterate,okay, woo.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
I'm getting chills.
This stuff is bubbling for meChills.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
So here's what I'm thinking In order for us to be
able to move forward and createmassive amounts of wealth and
success without that fear ofloss undercutting us and
creating subconsciousself-sabotage, we have to, we
(51:47):
have to come into rightrelationship with loss not
attaching to an outcome?
Speaker 1 (51:53):
yeah, not attaching to it, because there is no such
thing as a loss unless youbelieve in it, right?
One of the reasons why one ofthe biggest changes that really
helped me is understanding andthen knowing on a core level
that my birth was not thebeginning of me and my death is
(52:18):
not the end.
Therefore, giving up that fearof death which I really like
that took me, that took me a bitof time.
I'm going to be completelyhonest.
Fear of death was one of thethings that was harder for me
than anything else.
But letting go of that but harddoesn't mean bad right, it just
took me longer to really graspthat concept and then, like,
(52:40):
live in it.
Plus, that allowed me todevelop my like that's this is a
conversation for another time.
But reaching that level ofenlightenment, right, like I am
more than this physical body.
It was not the beginning of meand it's not the end.
(53:01):
How can I bypass that withinthis physical body to create
that dynamic change?
Like, then, where's grief Then?
Where's all that?
It's created from my physicalbrain?
Once we reach that enlightenmentand I think I said this last
time it's like walking into apitch black room right, like you
can't see anything and you'relike looking around for that
(53:21):
light switch right.
Once you find it, you flick iton.
You're not still searching forit, where I think a lot of
people think enlightenment islike this never ending, always
here, like I have to always besearching for it.
Once the light goes on, you'regood, right After.
That is when the evolutionbegins.
That's when you start focusingon the evolution of this
(53:43):
physical body, the evolution ofyour like levels of
consciousness and moving andlike exploring and really
becoming active andparticipating within that
enlightenment, takingenlightenment and turning it
into tangible means and, um, andI think letting go of that fear
of death is a big part of thatyeah to be able to process
(54:08):
things yeah, I think that that Ithink that you're right that
it's detaching from the outcomeand, to come all the way full
circle to what we said in thebeginning, we can be detached
from the outcome and thensometimes the outcome comes and
(54:28):
we're disappointed, right, whichis making me think it's.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
sometimes the lip sore comes and sometimes the
fingers go numb.
And sometimes you have a shitlaunch and sometimes you have a
shit launch.
And sometimes you have a shitlaunch and sometimes you lose
your fucking money.
Yeah right, my grandfather madeand lost 10 million bucks
multiple times.
I think I've got a little liketrauma around I've had some of
that too right.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
I've had big losses like that.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
You know what I mean and I've also had big losses I
lost my father.
You know what I mean and I'vealso had big losses.
I lost my father.
You know what I mean Like likefrom an early age, lots of but
here's there, and then hedisappeared and he was there and
then he disappeared.
A lot of whole life was lostand I learned how to cope with
my father disappearing bydetaching from the outcome,
(55:15):
However, outcome However howmany times did I have to
experience that loss?
as deep grief until I could cometo a place where my identity,
my sense of myself, my sense ofworth and that disappointment
wouldn't swallow me.
(55:35):
I mean, it took me literally mywhole life until he died, you
know.
So I think I'm just saying thisto remind myself and all of us
that we can be detached and then, when we feel lost, that is the
(55:55):
human like it's human to grieve.
Yeah, it's human to grieve.
And we can hold both.
We can hold this cosmicperspective and this, you know,
this perspective where weunderstand, like I'm so much
more than this human life but atthe same time I love my human
life.
Exactly so when things drop offof it.
(56:17):
It's I'm gonna feel sad andthat's part of the human
experience.
It has to.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Grief is proof of love and um, I think about
people like I've.
I've had big lot million lossesand guess what?
I live through it.
I'm still here.
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
I I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
I'm not dead.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
You're a 6'3", I'm a 3'6".
In human design boy, do we losea lot?
We fail a lot and resiliency.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
It's all about resilience, right?
How about falling forward?
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Falling forward, failing forward.
That's right Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I have a physical therapy appointment, so we're
going to wrap up.
Perfect.
Do you have anything you wantto say, like any words of wisdom
for this last moment?
Words of wisdom, oh.
Tell us the quote.
Tell us what your book's goingto be called.
Again, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Presence is the New Mindfulness we're going to keep
her to that, y'all.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Okay, have a great week.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Bye.
good morning.
Hey, can you hear me better?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I heard you last time , but let me listen more here.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Let me unplug my microphone and then plug it back
in, okay this is without.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is with.
I think this is with.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, this is with.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's better, it's clear.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, welcome to the cosmic Valkyrie podcast.
This is the first day of snowin central New York.
I'm so excited.
And it's still snowing, so weget all excited.
The first day of snow and myhusband was like I want it to
(00:48):
stay off, I want donuts.
So I did, I stay in my pajamas,I take him down to get donuts
and then we were just likerelaxing and having coffee.
But we love snow, we love snow,I love cold.
You know that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I wish I was with you there.
I'm not the cold fan.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
My neighbor, bethany, that lives across the street
from us.
I don't know why I told you hername.
You're not going to know her,but she has this Good old
Bethany Just kidding.
Oh, bethany, she has this raredisease.
I think this is really wildthat when her skin is exposed to
snow she breaks out, or coldweather she breaks out in hives,
(01:34):
and the medical industry she'shad it since she was a child.
The medical industry wasignoring it for a long time but
she said, within the past sevenyears they are recognizing it as
a real thing, like more andmore people have it.
She said she could hold a icecube to her finger, whatever arm
, and remove it and she wouldget a hive right there.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
The body's response is so interesting, right, like
clearly, that skin and the bodyis saying this is dangerous.
Let's have a histamine reactionor you know whatever it is.
But you know I have.
I have Raynaud's, which makesmy fingers and toes.
They literally turn ghost white, like sometimes.
Honestly, I was told, okay,when I was first, when I first
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started, it was like my earlytwenties and I was basically
told by a doctor it's a, it's animmune system thing.
It's like a, an immunedysfunction, and you're going to
have it your whole life and itwill never go away.
Then I went on a retreat inMount Shasta and there was this
older woman and I you knoweveryone was jumping into a
freezing cold river and I'm likeI can't do it because my
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fingers and toes will go numb.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And she said oh, I used to have Raynaud's, but I
cured it, I healed it.
Oh, that's what I was going toask you Because it's so curious
to me.
I saw a post earlier today andI myself let's talk about this
because first, first, when I wasin Mexico the last time, I was
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assaulted by a man and I gotherpes on my mouth because of it
, and so every year after likemultiple times a year, I would
have this breakout.
So one I did research on likewhat might trigger it and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But also I was like, as I evolved and like, became
the cosmic Valkyrie, I was likeI'm fucking taking this shit
down.
Okay, this is a great lesson,yeah.
So I decided I was going tomanifest it out of my life, and
so one thing that happens I doknow that it is situational,
right the power of the mind,maintaining a calm inner
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presence, will reduce the riskof having it.
I was involved in that carwreck and then, because I was in
and out of consciousness, mybrain was just like struggling
to stay alive.
I noticed for a couple of yearsafter I would get it, and it's
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probably been two and a halfyears, two years, since I've had
it.
Here's the thing, though likeI'm like, yeah, I manifested
that shit away, but I don't careif I do get one.
I'm not going to judge myselfon being a bad manifester
because my body like, thank youRight.
It's like stressed out and it'slike, oh my God, I'm too cold.
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Or I'm like whatever, whateverit's going through or whatever
situation I'm going through,which, surprisingly, I didn't
get one, moving my mom here.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Can everyone just like listen again to the lesson
that Lynn Louise just shared.
Right, she manifested it away.
It's been two and a half yearsand you know what happens if she
gets one.
It does not mean that she's abad manifester.
It doesn't mean that it didn'twork.
So how do you hold it whensomething like that comes in?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It didn't work, so how do you hold it when
something like that comes in.
So one I focus on my body.
I'm like, oh, poor baby, Likeyou're going through something
and a lot of the times, becauseI don't really like.
I do stress out, I'm not amiracle person and we all need
to understand that we're stillhaving this human experience.
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So there are going to be times,like when moving my mom, when I
was stressed out, I was tryingto catch up on my hypnosis
clients, I was trying to get mymom situated here.
We're trying to wrap up someloose ends in our den renovation
, Like a lot was happening.
I didn't get one.
Then Didn't get one then yeah,but if I would have, I would
have been like, oh man, you'restressed out.
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You know there's a lot going on.
It's okay that it came up.
Whatever's going to happen,it's going to happen.
It used to happen when theclimate would change, so it
would get really dry.
Same thing I had eczema andit's a blood disease, right, so
it's always with you.
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I didn't get it until my late30s, early 40s.
I've not had a case of it inprobably a decade or more.
But if I got it this winter I'dbe like, oh, it's super dry
Like.
What's the result of this?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Right.
We're not attributing all thismeaning and using it to then
knock ourselves down a peg.
Prove that we're not goodenough, prove that the
manifestation doesn't happen,because I will tell you, I
haven't had any symptoms ofRaynaud's in years, in years.
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When she told me that I wasjust like well then, I'm going
to heal it.
And so, listen, I have to bringhand warmers and I have to wear
mittens.
You're taking care of it Evenwhen I didn't believe I could
cure it.
I used hand warmers and mittensand I would still get it.
That's the difference.
And you know what would happenif I got really cold and my
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fingers went numb?
I'd be like, wow, maybe I needextra hand warmers.
Not, I didn't cure it, and I'ma bad person Like this is where
pardon my French we fuckourselves over with our
manifestations every single time.
Right, this is the way that Iview it.
Anything that we change, youever notice that it comes back.
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It comes back.
We can change it for good, butwe're always going to have these
opportunities to address it, tochoose who we are, to choose
what we want.
Again and again.
Some people say it's thedefinition of insanity and
you're repeating the same thing.
It's not, because every time itcomes back, you are
experiencing it from a new levelof consciousness, a new level
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of awareness.
I think of it like a spiral andI think of, every time, those
things that we fixed that cameback and the things that we
healed that come back.
It is an opportunity for us todeepen our trust in ourselves,
to reestablish what it is thatwe want, who we are, what we
believe and what we choose.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Ooh, I love that it's a spiral.
It's like the whole thing ofloving yourself, no matter what,
no matter what that's it.
It's like the cold sore orherpes or whatever doesn't
define my personal power, right?
And it's like aren't we alljust trying to achieve cosmic
(08:35):
level consciousness, not thisthree dimensional?
And yes, it is represented inour surroundings, but I love
that you brought up like we'renever the same person.
Like, if I'm going to get a coldsore again or herpes, I'm not
the same person that I was, eventwo years ago or when it
happened, right.
So my reaction to it hasevolved and that's the big thing
(08:58):
.
Like I, last time I got it, itwasn't like oh my god, like I
wasn't beating myself up, I wasjust like, oh, this poor little
physical body.
You know, I know you're goingthrough a lot.
I know you're going through alot.
This is temporary, it'll goaway and I'm going to do
everything I can to make youcomfortable during it.
Right, I used to be that personthat I broke my arm once and I
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was like goddamn arm, like Iwould just talk shit to my body.
I was just like so angry withit.
And it was that incident that Irealized, oh my God, you are so
mean, like stop talking to yourarm that way.
And so I was like oh, baby, I'mso sorry you're broken, let's
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take care of you.
Like I started talking to mybody differently and it really
does add a different perspective.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I mean, like you said, it'slike self-love, there's
compassion there.
You know what else is comingthrough, right, like I had an
eating disorder for many yearsand there were a few years where
I was, you know I was done withit, but then I would have like
a little relapse, right.
And if I would have taken everytime I had a relapse, like like
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that was the end, I wouldprobably still have an eating
disorder now.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's kind of like AA right.
Like when they're like you'realways an alcoholic.
So when somebody like has arelapse, then they're like you
got to start over.
It's like no, no, no, you don'tLike it's not starting over,
it's continuing your journey inthis lifetime and those
decisions every moment of everyday.
We have the possibility tochoose, but it does all go back
(10:39):
to that core identity.
Like if I was still identifyingthat herpes as a sign of from
being a victim of a violentcrime, it would materialize much
different in my presence.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh, yeah, for sure, you know, and I would hold
different meanings to that, or ascar or whatever it might be
right, Like we can choose to andthat goes, I think we can
choose where we want to ourperspective of things.
And yeah, really, like thereare so many people that identify
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as healing as something that'shard and takes a long time and
it's going to be tumultuous,right, and it doesn't have to be
.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That that I think you're so right.
I think that's a reallyimportant paradigm shift that
people have the opportunity tochoose if they want to step into
it.
But I also think it's where alot of healers get stuck in
their messaging because they'reselling healing and most people
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associate healing with it.
Healing is hard, hard work andit takes a long time, so they're
inadvertently reinforcing, likethey're kind of repelling,
people with their messaging.
Does that make sense?
Oh, you're going to heal.
Everyone's like I don't fuckingwant to heal, that's the work.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
On the other side, it's the work.
It's like, oh, that's what Iwant to do, the work Right.
And it doesn't sound like fun.
Like I don't want to fuckingheal.
That sounds miserable.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No, because to heal we have to go deeper into the
shit.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, we got to get dirty.
Who wants to do that?
And you know, I think that thiswhole perspective of healing
taking a long time has come tous from the talk therapy
approach.
Oh yeah, fucking talk therapy.
There is a place for it.
Don't get me wrong.
There is a definite place forit.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
There is a definite place for it and I did it, and I
did it for years and I was inand out of therapy and on and
off of medication and itdefinitely had its place, but
what I found is it never wentdeep enough and I was never.
That's a power of coachingcoach to a point point or like
it was like I was reliant onthem healing me, not my
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participation, and going deeperLike they.
I'm a homework girl, like I'mlike, tell me what to do and
I'll do it.
But going to talk therapy, theynever gave me homework.
Okay, we'll see you next week.
What good was this?
I was sitting around cryingabout an experience I had, but
nothing has changed.
I haven't changed my opinion ofit.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's so interesting because I totally agree that
there's a place for it, rightLike there is a place especially
.
I think it's an important placefor people who are very, very
repressed and have not actuallyidentified the root cause of
some of the struggles thatthey're having in the current
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time.
So to go back and look at, ohwell, maybe this thing in my
past is why I'm feeling that way, but I don't think staying
there is healthy.
And I, you know like I comefrom a therapy.
Well, I come from a therapyhousehold.
I was in therapy when I was twoand a half years old, in art
therapy.
My mother, my father, was anaddict and my mom said you're
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going to therapy, I don't carehow old you are.
So I was in therapy my wholelife.
In some ways, it was reallyreally helpful, right?
It helped me to stay aware andin touch with myself.
It also taught me how to speakabout my feelings without
feeling them.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I was really good at that.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I was one of the really really good therapy
patients yeah.
I was that way too.
And so, through my coachingtraining and my coaching
experience, if I were to go totherapy now and like since then,
right, I started coaching in myearly 20s and I'm in my mid 30s
, you know, in that time thetherapy I would go in and I
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would say I'm going to start bytelling on myself.
I'm a really good client.
I'm going to tell you all thethings that you want to hear.
I've reframed everythingalready.
I understand all the psychology.
My background is in psychology,you know, but I've never been
moved forward by talk therapy?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I hadn't either, and my story goes like I was doing
the therapy, I was doing allthose things right, and I would
be good for three months, sixmonths, maybe a year, and then
everything would feel like it'sfalling apart, and then I would
create more.
That was falling apart, right.
The last time I went intotherapy it was during my divorce
(15:34):
, and it was really good.
She was like you get rid ofyour baggage really quickly.
And I'm like, yeah, one, I doy'all.
But at the same time nothing onthe inside was changing Right.
So I got rid of all thatbaggage and I moved on.
But how long was that going tolast?
So it lasted about maybe sixmonths and then I was back in my
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depression, my anxieties, myoverwhelm, my discomfort, and
then at that point I was like Ican't fucking do it again.
It's like I going back eitherto the same person or normally
what would happen is, oh, thatperson moved, or that person is
no longer with us, or whatever.
So then it's like starting overand I'm like this just isn't
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working.
I don't want to see the rest ofmy life in and out of therapy.
There is a place for it, but itis not for me.
I do want to say I think thattalk therapy world is changing
and there are more like I haveclients that are psychiatrists
and psychologists that approachthings very differently with
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like what is it Somatic?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
healing and stuff like that.
I think I do think that it'schanging.
It's a progressive field ingeneral, right, it's about, it's
about the human experience.
So I do agree that it'schanging, thank God, like what
it was 20, 20 years ago.
When you go and like you're,you're telling the same story
again and again and again.
And, just like you said, it'schanging, thank god, like what
it was 20, 20 years ago.
When you go and like you're,you're telling the same story
again and again and again.
Right, and just like you saidit's like.
Then you stop, you find someonenew.
(17:06):
Oh great, I have to go back tothe beginning with this.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh, and they all tired of the story.
Enough of the story.
And the thing, the cool thingis that I could talk about those
things without being attachedto it.
And, like in E10X, when I talkabout identity, right, I no
longer identified as a victim ofa violent crime.
I had gone through all that.
(17:30):
So, like when I would talk aboutbeing sexually assaulted or
whatever, I had no emotionalattachment to it because it was
no longer part of my identity.
Yeah, yeah.
And so it was just like, oh,okay, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, here it is right.
And then they'd be like youhave no emotions attached,
you're blocking something, andI'm like, no, that was like
(17:50):
fucking forever ago.
Yeah, but the thing that Ilearned when I started going
through and diving deeper isthat, while I no longer
identified as a victim of aviolent crime, none of my
subconscious stories, behaviorsand feelings wrapped around that
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had ever been resolved.
So I still would like.
If I would be triggered, thenmy subconscious would trigger
certain behaviors emotionallyeating, beating myself up with
over, exercising, like all these, like drinking too much, right.
So the behaviors that came frombeing a victim of a violent
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crime were still there and sothey were sabotaging me, but not
my identity of one.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, yep, and and those beliefs, it's, it's that's
interesting, right, causeyou're holding your identity,
and yet those but I mean itmakes sense, right the
subconscious triggers and allthose thoughts, they're still
behind it.
So I wonder, I mean that's whyhypnosis is so powerful right.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It's like so what's happening is you know there's
that event, then you, then yourbrain forms all these belief
systems to keep you safe, andthen your subconscious goes hey,
let's, let's do behaviors right, let's put some behaviors
behind it.
So this is why, as a runner, Ican say that with complete
honesty.
(19:22):
This is why people will say, oh, running's, I do it for my
mental health.
That really gets me all,because one of the things when
you are reacting, when you getstressed, anxious, whatever, if
you're distracting with running,it's the same as distracting
with overeating, right, likebinge eating.
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You're still distracting fromit.
So you're going to be good for30 minutes when those endorphins
are still racing or whatever,but then, immediately when they
wear off or when somethingtriggers you back into stress,
what are you going to do?
You're going to find the nextdistraction what should I eat
for lunch?
Where should I go?
Should I go out with the girls?
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For you know, to blow off somesteam, it's going to start
wanting to find that nextdistracting behavior.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And that's the cycle and that's which is also why, oh
, I didn't get to run this weekand I'm having such a horrible
week.
Right.
Yes, it's like yeah and listen.
There are worse things tochannel your energy into.
Right, Like worse things.
But I.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
just running can destroy you just as much as
emotional eating.
I'll tell you, it almostdestroyed me.
It doesn't matter Distractingbehavior, distracting it doesn't
matter distracting behavior.
Distracting distracting is youcan't run enough to feel the
feels, right, right and um.
It was like such a definingmoment in my evolution was that
(20:53):
moment that I was like fuck, Istill have all these habits and
belief systems formed from myfirst sexual assault.
Not that I'm not healed fromthat sexual assault, but it has
wrapped all these things, allthese stories and behaviors have
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been wrapped into how I live mylife so densely that it was
just like I would look at mylife and I'd go, wow, I wake up,
I drink my coffee, go for a run, depending on how stressed or
what I did the day before, it'sgoing to determine how long it
is, how many calories I ate, howmany, whatever, right, like
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obsessing about that.
It's going to determine howlong my run is, how fast my run
is, how intense it is.
And then I'd get home, I'd takea shower and I'd be good, and
then I'd get on the train and itwould be like busy or it's
running late, or it got stoppedand you know I'm going to like,
and then it'd start piling upand then I'd be like I'm going
(21:56):
to go get a you know my smoothiefrom Jamba Juice and yeah, sure
, okay, that can be viewed thesmell of sugar and that shit.
But it can be like okay, I'mgoing to do a Jamba Juice or
breakfast burrito and then it'slike comfort food.
And then I'd get up to my office, I'd be fine until somebody
would like come in and hit mewith an employee, whatever.
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Somebody would like come in andhit me with an employee, just
whatever.
So my whole day, down to when Iwould fall asleep at night,
maybe drinking too much wine, oryou know, I was a terrible,
terrible, um, emotional eater.
I would finish eating one thingand be fine for like 10 minutes
and then be like now I needsomething salty, now I need
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something sweet, now I need todrink some wine because my sugar
levels are high and I'm likefreaking out.
It's a cycle.
Yeah, but I wasn't attached tobeing a victim, it was
everything that had come after.
It was so eye-opening, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And I think it's worth doing the.
It's really worth doing theroot cause work and it's not
hard.
I feel like the subconscious,like that's the irony.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's fucking easier than talk therapy and you know
one of the things that I see somany healers doing.
It's so much easier than talktherapy, so much easier.
One of the things that I see,the biggest distracting behavior
I see healers and coaches doingmeditating.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I got thoughts on that I got.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Thoughts Go on Meditating and getting grounded
so they get stressed and whilequiet time, meditation is a
great tool, it is a lifestyle,not a behavior, to avoid feeling
the feelings.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Tell me, tell me your opinion, okay I've got multiple
layers of feelings about it.
I completely I want to say atleast I mean, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna make up a number, but Ithink, like 70 of the of the
people I know who do meditateand do ascension things, they're
actually just bypassing,exactly Bypassing.
(24:08):
Okay, and I think that it's afine line.
Okay, but if every time youfeel a bad feeling, you go right
to meditating, you are skippingover the juice.
You got to feel it to heal it.
It right, you have to go intoit, you have to write, you don't
have to stay there, but youdon't want to stay there right
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over over, but I have, I have abelief.
You can quote me.
This is gonna be my booksomeday.
Okay, let's dirty, let's do it.
Presence is the new mindfulness.
Boom, okay, this is my opinion.
Okay, mindfulness as a concept?
Right, this idea of?
Well, let's talk about likemeditation more than mindfulness
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.
Okay, this idea of meditation.
What are we doing withmeditating?
We're cutting off our thoughts,right, so we can go to a place
of emptiness.
It's very masculine, okay.
What's the ultimate goal ofmeditation?
Let's hear what you have to sayabout this.
I believe it's enlightenment.
Where is enlightenment?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh, I didn't know it was enlightenment.
Well that's how I see it.
Right, I'm going to tell you so.
I was one of those thatdistracted with meditation.
I was a big on my journey toenlightenment.
Meditation was like right inthere, I'm like oh, but I used
it to avoid feeling the feelings.
So my thing was to.
(25:34):
My thing was oh, meditation isgoing to bring more calmness to
my life.
But calmness brings moremeditation.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, that's exactly it.
But see, this is my wholetheory, right?
Most of the religions that areout there, right?
Where is God Connection?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
to God Somewhere out there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Okay, somewhere out there Where's heaven Somewhere
out there.
Where's enlightenment?
Somewhere out there.
Everything is escaping thehuman body.
Get out of the body.
The body causes suffering.
The body is your prison.
Okay, the body is the feminine.
Okay, consciousness is themasculine okay okay.
So what have we done?
We've created a series of notjust, like you know,
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judeo-christian religions, butother things that are telling us
the worst thing you can do isbe in your body.
Your body can't be trusted,it's going to break down, you're
going to die, you're going tobe sick, you're not healthy, you
can't be with God because youare in your body.
So to me, right, the actualright, and I think the opposite
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of like all it is is my body andI'm without spirit.
That's also equally shit, right.
So to me, it's not aboutmeditation and having no mind.
It's actually about the deepestpresence within your body that
you can be, because when you aretruly present with your body,
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you are deeply connected tospirit as well.
To me, it's all about beingpresent.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's not about being mindful.
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Isn't it so interesting?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, Girl we got to like figure out how we're going
to work together, because Ithink our combination is like so
fucking on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's interesting because, like the cosmicness, to
me it's here and I love that,like your perspective and what
you've learned in your journeyas a priestess and feminine,
masculine energy and stuff is sodifferent than the journey that
I've embarked on Right, butit's like the same language,
just different ways Totally.
On right, but it's like thesame language, just different
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ways totally.
And I really I were as humans.
Yeah, I see so many, so manypeople running to detach from
the physical form and I'm likeI'd say this a lot like no, come
back down here, you need tostay in here.
This is like what you came hereto do.
This is why I always say youfought to be human for this time
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, like out of all the souls andall the universes and all the
galaxies, whatever, you foughtto be human in this life, be
present.
Stop trying to like.
This is where I seem, where Iwas with meditation, like I
would use it as an escape.
I would run to escape, I wouldeat to escape, I would do all
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these things to try and escapethe human experience.
When you become more alignedand you like love yourself 100%,
then it's like no, I want to bepresent for it all and you are
still.
It's that whole secondattention thing, like I am more
than this physical body.
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I am in multiple dimensions andmultiple attentions at one time
and therefore it creates, likethis, really internal calmness.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I love this conversation, I'm really
passionate about it because Ijust like you, like, just like
you're saying, like I just see alot of people escaping the body
and I, I'm, I'm here.
I'm here to remind people thatthe human experience is is
miraculous and perfect, with allof its shit and all of its
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glory, and to me, we miss thatwhen we're trying to ascend
beyond it.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And I think, like when you were talking about the
indoctrination and the dogmaticreligions and stuff, and that I
always had a really hard timewith Christianity.
That's from a very early ageand I am definitely not
Christian, don't get me wrong.
I think Jesus was one of themost enlightened beings on this
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earth, but the Christianreligion he would hate, but it
was always that misogynistic,like biblical, he, him, whatever
.
And now when you're describinglike that being masculine energy
(30:14):
and this being feminine energy,the body, I'm just my mind is
reeling in how we got there.
Yeah, how did we?
And you know it's all by men.
Men are the one that createdthat dogmatic bullshit.
And this is why I have such aproblem with the word
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spirituality so many times andwhy I try to avoid using it,
because even in the spiritualworld I have seen it becomes so
dogmatic.
And like I made a post thisweek in my Facebook group about
like white men in robes, justlike that, like if you are in uh
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, if you are following a manthat is a white man in a robe,
you're most likely in a cult,right?
like you're in a cult.
Call it what it is, um, but II'm like how, men, how did we
get here?
Why did?
Why?
Were they so afraid of us thatthey wrote us out of history,
(31:19):
off of the throne?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's just miraculous.
It's the power, right Like thepower to actually birth life.
Nothing can actually competewith that.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
They don't see their role within that, because women
can't give birth without a man.
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
But think about it.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
The only way a man can now we have paternity tests,
but for all of human history upuntil now, the only way a man
could ensure that baby is his isif he owns the woman who births
it you know, I have a friendthat studied, uh, biology, like
(31:59):
she got her doctorate in biologyand stuff, and we were talking
one time and she said,inherently, men are, um, non,
they're not monogamous, becausetheir whole, by a lot biology is
driven to impregnate women sothey can go out and they can,
(32:19):
like, have sex and they wantmore, more, more, more babies,
like that is their biologicaldrive.
But women can only get pregnantone by one man at a time, yeah,
and so women tend to be moreselective and aware of like
biologically.
(32:39):
I'm not talking aboutconsciously, right, we're
talking about the body's biology.
Right right right, right, right.
I was going to say well, arethey?
So you know?
So it's all about biology.
This isn't about consciousness,this isn't about awareness,
whatever this is like on abiological level female and
masculine animals, because thatis what we are, that's how we
(33:04):
operate.
Now, as humans, we have I justposted this too we have the
ability to choose, right?
I do want to say that choiceinsinuates, I think is the right
word consciousness.
(33:25):
So I often think about how doesconsciousness come into play,
this drive for higher evolution,like after like the achievement
from enlightenment, right,enlightenment gives it like, how
(33:45):
does all this play together andwhere does it come in?
Because there are stillprobably 90% of the population
that is walking around thatdon't know that they have the
ability to choose.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Or I mean here's the otherpiece, like who's doing the
choosing, like which part of ourconsciousness, right, which
kind of goes back to the workthat you do, which is it's the
idea, whatever your identity youhave, is doing that choosing.
So a lot of the choices are notconscious.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, I just think it like choice when we're using it
in the spiritual community.
Right, it implies choice,implies having consciousness
Right but Awareness.
Having consciousness, right,but awareness, awareness, yeah,
you have to become aware too.
(34:43):
I just I often think, but thenhow many of the people, even
within that community, have thelevel of consciousness to
understand the choices thatthey're making?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I don't think that most of us do, even myself
included right Like.
The choices that I make arebased on my level of awareness.
I'm not aware of everything.
I'm aware of what I'm aware of,based on my identities and my
subconscious beliefs.
So we are.
It's like relative choice.
(35:20):
The choice is relative to ourown understanding, and there are
people who, I think, arecompletely not conscious that
they can choose or that they arechoosing.
So that's the other side of it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And I'm just going to say it, reaching the level of
enlightenment that I have camefrom.
Privilege White people havemore privileges than any other
race because and that's just afact, and I see, and one of the
(36:11):
things that I feel so deeply isfinding people that are not
white to help and collaboratewith and like bring that to.
I just posted that I waslooking for a Tarot teacher and
there's so many white people andI'm like I wonder if there's
any that are in here tocollaborate with for telepathy
and Tarot.
But I'm like we have so manyprivileges and I think it's
really dirty to think that I'veheard this in the spiritual
(36:36):
community.
Well, you know that we don'tknow each other's karma, or blah
, blah, blah.
And you know we don't know howthat person came back into this
life.
And like I see a lot of victimblaming within the spiritual
community, like, well, theychose that before they got here.
Or you know, I can't even, Ican't even either, especially,
(36:58):
you know, can't even, I can'teven either, especially, you
know.
And and when it comes to liketaking, you know, domestic abuse
and all that shit, I'm likedon't fucking do that, like it's
really but you see it, it'slike I get.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I get where they're coming from, but it's not
fucking helpful when someone issuffering to tell them that you
chose to be the victim of rape.
What the fuck.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That's such a slap in the face and the thing is
that's the kind of likespiritual elitism detached, I'm
so conscious bullshit, that isit.
It's forgetting.
Hey, guess what, when you saythat to somebody who's hurting,
you're hurting them more.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And it's like.
The one thing that I know on mycore level is that we cannot
control what other people do orsay.
So having a victim mindset isnot the same as being a victim
of a violent crime.
There's a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Huge difference, such a good distinction.
Wait, so say it again.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Wait.
So say it again Having a victimmindset and being like me, me,
poor me, blah, blah, blah, blahis completely different than
being a victim of a violentcrime, right?
Because one is the actualphysical events and the other
one is your identity and yourbeliefs around it.
Yeah, and you can't escape thatbelief system until you escape
the reality of that relationshipor that event or that situation
.
And the only thing that yourbrain is capable of when you are
in a trauma is trying tofucking stay alive, and it's
going to do whatever it needs toto maintain that life, cause
(39:03):
that's what our brain is for.
So if that means complying tothe situation, then it's going
to comply.
Once you escape that situationwhich is very rare, right, the
the woman has the opportunity tobegin to heal, but through talk
, therapy or old mechanisms,right?
(39:23):
So, just like with alcoholism,the chance of her returning to
that violent because her brainhas been taught that's the norm,
that's the pattern, right?
You know?
And it will say anything thatit wants to say to make you
either go back or choose anotherpartner.
That's the same.
(39:44):
It likes patterns andpredictability.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah.
And what's crazy is how manypeople will hook back up with
someone that on the outside youwould never know it would turn
into that same pattern, andsometimes it even takes years,
but that pattern is still thereyeah so how much of our
subconscious is picking up onpatterns that are below the
(40:07):
surface, frequencies, peoplethat we choose, right, those
frequencies I've been.
I was thinking of, um, I wasthinking of this concept.
I don't know why we're talkingabout this.
I love the twists and turns, wego on right.
But I thought a lot about, like, what keeps somebody in an
abusive relationship.
(40:28):
And I remember a long time agomy mom said something along the
lines of I don't remember howshe said it, but she's basically
saying like I don't rememberhow she said it, but she's
basically saying like, yourconcept of yourself gets worn
down when someone is chippingaway at it for so long.
And I like to think of itthrough this concept of what I
call or actually it's a, it's auh, ocean, oceanography,
(40:55):
oceanography concept.
It's called shifting baselines.
The amount of life forms thatwere in the ocean 100 years ago,
that was the baseline for then.
If you compare what it is nowto, then this does not look
normal.
But all of us were born here.
This small amount of fish andthe small amount of marine life.
(41:18):
That's our current baseline.
And over time the baselineshifts.
What's normal shifts sosomeone's identity, how they see
themselves what they believethey are right, Especially if
you have somebody bombardingmessages that whittle away, that
really touch on your fears,that touch on your insecurities
long enough, that starts tobecome the reality, and once
(41:40):
that's the norm, that's thebaseline.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Everything that we have in our lives is actually a
reflection of what our baselineis, and think about it this way
Women are born into a world, nomatter where you're born into,
believing that you're inferior,that you're not as valuable.
It doesn no matter where you'reborn into believing that you're
inferior, that you're not asvaluable, it doesn't matter
where.
And then, through yourexperiences, the world itself
(42:06):
teaches you that and itcontinues to teach you that.
And then, if you're born into afamily, that's inherently the
line has been dad abuses, mom,grandpa abuse, grandpa, grandma.
You know, like, if you're borninto that consecutive line, then
that's another thing thatyou're being like, taught and so
you're not.
The likelihood of you being ableto break that pattern is so
(42:29):
difficult.
Right, there has to be somebodyin there Like my dad broke our
line.
He like he was abused by hismom, but he broke that line.
Like that didn't exist in ourhome.
Yeah, but it's not.
And I think that's what made iteasy for me, because chances
are that probably, uh, eight outof ten women have experienced a
(42:53):
violent partner.
That's the reality, and so Ithink that's why it was really
easy for me that when shit hitthe fan, I was like fuck all
y'all, I'm not cutting.
No, this is not cool and I willnot be coming back.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I mean we have.
There's more men out there thatare like that than are not, and
that's the reality that are,that are abusive, that think
women are less than so thelikelihood, even if you are a
strong, independent, beautifulwoman, the likelihood of you
being interacted with or havinga relationship with a abusive
(43:34):
man, no matter what degree, aremore likely than not man, no
matter what degree are morelikely than not.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, I think that men have been taught not to do
the overt behaviors, and somedon't give a fuck and they do
the overt, abusive behaviors.
But I think that, yes, there'sstill an undercurrent, at least
an undercurrent of superiority.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Well, and the abuse doesn't have to be physical.
Well, right, we know thatexactly.
And then you look at, look atthe uneducated population and
the amount of them that votedfor trump.
Yep, right.
So it's like there are more menin this country that are shit
(44:19):
shows than are not.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
There are also a lot of women who voted for Trump and
a lot of highly educated peoplewho voted for Trump.
So there's all kinds of shitgoing on, but that philosophy
right, what he represents, Ijust think that that's.
I don't know what to say aboutit.
(44:42):
It's like it's a part of humannature, it is a philosophy, it's
a philosophy of the world.
Take what you want, right?
It's a taking, it's aself-serving, it's abuse of
power.
Right To me, this, this is theparadigm of abusing power that
pops up and has popped upthroughout all of human history
(45:05):
in different cycles, and we'reat a cycle right now, not just
in America.
No, not just not just in America, where it's that style of power
.
Not all power is like this,right, but it's power over, not
personal power, no fuckingpersonal power there.
It's all power over Power overothers, which is why people get
(45:30):
away with abusing children, getaway with abusing women.
They get away with that becauseof that philosophy.
I it's.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
It's really the numbers um from I think it's the
un this year on the 10 womenone out of four women is
sexually assaulted.
Oh yeah, that's fucked up, buthere's the thing I want you to
(46:04):
know about those numbers toothat are reported, Reported.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Right, but here's the other thing that I was going to
say while you're looking thatup, right.
The other thing I wanted to saywas this it was not long ago
where the baseline of what ahusband was expected to do was
to discipline his wife with apunch in the face, if necessary,
or a push against the wall.
(46:28):
That was normal, and so, evenif you know you don't have abuse
in your family line yes, youfucking do.
All of us do.
Oh good point.
Good point All of us do, causethat's that was the baseline,
that was normal.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, oh, good point.
So every 10 minutes a woman orgirl is killed by their partner.
Now, two things I want you toprocess here.
One is that it's a partner.
Okay, one's a partner.
(47:08):
Second, that includes girls.
So married into an old, marriedto an older man, given away or
taken enslaved, right every 10minutes a female dies by the
hand of their partner.
Now there were also otherstatistics within there, like um
(47:30):
, uh, vaginal mutilation is up13, like all these things.
So the numbers are gettingworse.
The UN shows the numbers aregetting worse, not better, which
at first I'm like, oh, that'sso fucking discouraging.
It's like the fight, the fightis so hardcore.
(47:52):
But then I'm like isn't that?
Like doesn't that always happen?
Like shit gets way worse beforeit gets way better.
It gets better.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I always say it's like if you were holding someone
who was falling off a cliff.
The last seconds that theirhands are falling through, you
are grabbing with all of yourmight.
That's what this current powersystem is doing.
They're sure they got a bolster.
It can't last, can't last, it'snot going to last.
It's going to sure they got abolster.
(48:22):
It can't last, can't last, it'snot gonna last, it's gonna.
it might fucking suck yeah whilethey're, while the power is
there, it also might not be sobad.
I have no idea.
I can't imagine it will go well, but the future, we don't know
the future, we don't know thefuture.
But, however, it is up to us.
However, who have you everheard of somebody who has a shit
ton of power and they just wantto say you take my power.
(48:43):
Is that how power works?
I have to say, I'm not afraidof being rich, I'm not afraid of
being corrupted by money.
I do have a deep belief thatpower corrupts and I do wonder
how that impacts me and my.
I totally like.
So that's what I'd like to kindof come to neutrality with yeah
, so I have a um.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I have a friend that we had a conversation about this
and she has a doctorate andlike, just amazing, she's the
one that I wanted to dotelepathy and tarot with and we
were having a conversation aboutmoney and power, and I'm going
to tell you, most of the men,most of the people that I know
that have significant amounts ofmoney, will be the first to
(49:27):
tell you that they're not greedy.
Okay, which I'm like, isn'tthat like?
One of them was like trying toprove that he's modest, and I'm
like, well, a modest persondoesn't have to prove that
they're modest, doesn't a reallywealthy person not have to
prove that they're not greedy?
(49:47):
He who smelt it dealt it Right.
So I look at these men and womenthat are making billions and
I'm like how little they giveback and how little they do to
create change in the world.
And it's like okay, whatever,whatever.
But I was having a conversationwith her because she's really
(50:08):
smart like this, and she waslike so I believe that people
get to this level and when theyget to that level, it's all
about maintaining what they have.
It's no longer about and withinthat is greed anyway, because
they're so afraid of all thesethings that they've invested in
(50:29):
right, all these things thatthey have going on and all these
things that they're so afraidof losing it, that they're so
focused on maintaining thatlevel and that can create the
greed and I'm like that makes somuch sense.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Oh my God that resonates so much for me,
because I do have like fear ofloss is much scarier to me than
probably anything else.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, it's huge Right , like it's.
It's that whole.
I had a really good like I hadan eighty thousand dollar launch
Right, like it's that whole.
I had a really good, like I hadan $80,000 launch Right.
What brings up that fear?
Oh my God, what if I can'tmaintain it?
Can't do it again, right?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Or I can't do it again.
What if I'm fooling myself?
What if Right?
And you know what this isbringing up for me?
What is loss?
It's grief.
We are so grief illiterate,okay, woo.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
I'm getting chills.
This stuff is bubbling for meChills.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
So here's what I'm thinking In order for us to be
able to move forward and createmassive amounts of wealth and
success without that fear ofloss undercutting us and
creating subconsciousself-sabotage, we have to, we
(51:47):
have to come into rightrelationship with loss not
attaching to an outcome?
Speaker 1 (51:53):
yeah, not attaching to it, because there is no such
thing as a loss unless youbelieve in it, right?
One of the reasons why one ofthe biggest changes that really
helped me is understanding andthen knowing on a core level
that my birth was not thebeginning of me and my death is
(52:18):
not the end.
Therefore, giving up that fearof death which I really like
that took me, that took me a bitof time.
I'm going to be completelyhonest.
Fear of death was one of thethings that was harder for me
than anything else.
But letting go of that but harddoesn't mean bad right, it just
took me longer to really graspthat concept and then, like,
(52:40):
live in it.
Plus, that allowed me todevelop my like that's this is a
conversation for another time.
But reaching that level ofenlightenment, right, like I am
more than this physical body.
It was not the beginning of meand it's not the end.
(53:01):
How can I bypass that withinthis physical body to create
that dynamic change?
Like, then, where's grief Then?
Where's all that?
It's created from my physicalbrain?
Once we reach that enlightenmentand I think I said this last
time it's like walking into apitch black room right, like you
can't see anything and you'relike looking around for that
(53:21):
light switch right.
Once you find it, you flick iton.
You're not still searching forit, where I think a lot of
people think enlightenment islike this never ending, always
here, like I have to always besearching for it.
Once the light goes on, you'regood, right After.
That is when the evolutionbegins.
That's when you start focusingon the evolution of this
(53:43):
physical body, the evolution ofyour like levels of
consciousness and moving andlike exploring and really
becoming active andparticipating within that
enlightenment, takingenlightenment and turning it
into tangible means and, um, andI think letting go of that fear
of death is a big part of thatyeah to be able to process
(54:08):
things yeah, I think that that Ithink that you're right that
it's detaching from the outcomeand, to come all the way full
circle to what we said in thebeginning, we can be detached
from the outcome and thensometimes the outcome comes and
(54:28):
we're disappointed, right, whichis making me think it's.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
sometimes the lip sore comes and sometimes the
fingers go numb.
And sometimes you have a shitlaunch and sometimes you have a
shit launch.
And sometimes you have a shitlaunch and sometimes you lose
your fucking money.
Yeah right, my grandfather madeand lost 10 million bucks
multiple times.
I think I've got a little liketrauma around I've had some of
that too right.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
I've had big losses like that.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
You know what I mean and I've also had big losses I
lost my father.
You know what I mean and I'vealso had big losses.
I lost my father.
You know what I mean Like likefrom an early age, lots of but
here's there, and then hedisappeared and he was there and
then he disappeared.
A lot of whole life was lostand I learned how to cope with
my father disappearing bydetaching from the outcome,
(55:15):
However, outcome However howmany times did I have to
experience that loss?
as deep grief until I could cometo a place where my identity,
my sense of myself, my sense ofworth and that disappointment
wouldn't swallow me.
(55:35):
I mean, it took me literally mywhole life until he died, you
know.
So I think I'm just saying thisto remind myself and all of us
that we can be detached and then, when we feel lost, that is the
(55:55):
human like it's human to grieve.
Yeah, it's human to grieve.
And we can hold both.
We can hold this cosmicperspective and this, you know,
this perspective where weunderstand, like I'm so much
more than this human life but atthe same time I love my human
life.
Exactly so when things drop offof it.
(56:17):
It's I'm gonna feel sad andthat's part of the human
experience.
It has to.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Grief is proof of love and um, I think about
people like I've.
I've had big lot million lossesand guess what?
I live through it.
I'm still here.
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
I I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
I'm not dead.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
You're a 6'3", I'm a 3'6".
In human design boy, do we losea lot?
We fail a lot and resiliency.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
It's all about resilience, right?
How about falling forward?
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Falling forward, failing forward.
That's right Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I have a physical therapy appointment, so we're
going to wrap up.
Perfect.
Do you have anything you wantto say, like any words of wisdom
for this last moment?
Words of wisdom, oh.
Tell us the quote.
Tell us what your book's goingto be called.
Again, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Presence is the New Mindfulness we're going to keep
her to that, y'all.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Okay, have a great week.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Bye.
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