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April 3, 2025 29 mins

Linda Liukas is a programmer, children’s book author, and the creator of Hello Ruby, a whimsical series that teaches computing concepts through stories and play. She’s also the force behind a one-of-a-kind playground in Helsinki—designed to teach kids how computers work without them ever touching a screen.

In this episode, Linda shares why, especially with the rise of AI and code-writing copilots, we need to rethink the way we teach tech. 


Linda, a.k.a. the “Mary Poppins of Computing”, is on a mission to bring more whimsy, creativity, and fearlessness to kids and grown-ups alike. Enjoy this very fun episode!

You’ll learn:

  • Why physical play helps us grasp abstract computing concepts
  • How software makers can benefit from thinking like educators
  • What “unplugged computing” looks like—and why it works
  • How to cultivate creativity, curiosity, and fearlessness in tech teams
  • Why learning through play isn’t just for kids
  • What Linda’s AI experiments with tiny personal datasets reveal about the future of learning

Chapters

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:42) - What it means to be the “Mary Poppins of Computing”
  • (02:18) - Designing the Computer Playground
  • (05:43) - Why play is an ideal way to teach programming
  • (09:26) - Why software organizations should embrace play
  • (13:19) - AI and play
  • (14:47) - Learn to code vs. learn to program; how to become future-proof
  • (21:20) - Hello Ruby: how Linda accidentally became a children’s book author
  • (25:35) - Building more playgrounds and more fun ideas on teaching through play


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