March 19, 2025 • 37 mins
Today's chat is all about how fitness can supercharge your creativity, and we're diving deep with the one and only Trey the Fit Artist! Yup, this guy’s not just flexing his muscles; he’s also a fitness coach for artists, helping them dodge burnout and keep their creative juices flowing. We get into how fitness isn’t just about looking good—it's about feeling good and fueling that artistic fire. So, whether you’re a painter, musician, or any kind of creator, you'll want to stick around for tips on how to keep your energy up and your art game strong. Let's get ready to sweat it out and create some masterpieces, folks!
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Today's guest is Trea Da Fit Artist, a fitness coach for artists, entertainers, and creatives, as well as a music artist himself. He’s the founder of Next World Fitness and creator of Fit Masterpiece Collabs, where he helps performers sustain energy, avoid burnout, and optimize their health to stay at the top of their game. Get ready to learn how fitness fuels creativity... welcome Trea Da Fit Artist to the show!
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Takeaways:
- Fitness can actually boost your creativity and energy levels, contrary to popular belief that it drains you.
- Artists often overlook personal fitness, but maintaining health can prevent burnout and enhance creativity in the long run.
- Balancing the busy life of an artist with a fitness routine is tough, but essential for sustainable performance and health.
- Communication with your trainer about your body's needs is crucial to avoid injuries and maximize your fitness journey.
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(00:04):
Create Art Podcast InterviewTrey hello, friend.
This is Timothy Keem O'Brien,your head instigator for Create Art
Podcast, where I bring my over30 years of experience in the arts
and education world to helpyou tame your inner critic.
(00:27):
Create more than you consume.
So in today's episode, I'mgoing to be interviewing Trey de
Fit Artist.
Now, I got to tell you thatI've received a slew of interview
requests to be on this show.
So if you want to be on theshow, definitely shoot me an email
(00:48):
and let me know why you wantto be on the show.
And I'd be happy to get yourmessage out to everyone that listens
to this.
But Trey reached out to methrough Pod Match and I'll talk more
about Pod Match at the end ofthe podcast.
But let me tell you a littlebit about Trey because this guy had
me excited from Jump street.
(01:09):
Now, Trey is a fitness coachfor artists, entertainers and creatives,
as well as a music artist himself.
Now, he's the founder of NextWorld Fitness and creator of Fit
Masterpiece Collabs, where hehelps performers sustain energy,
avoid burnout, and optimizetheir health to stay at the top of
their game.
(01:29):
Get ready to learn how fitnessfuels creativity.
And we're going to welcomeTrey the Fit Artist to this show.
And you can find out all aboutTrey and his work if you go to his
website.
It's nextworld fitness.com ifyou don't have a pen and paper handy,
don't worry about it.
(01:50):
I've got it in the show notesfor you.
Now, when Trey reached out tome, I have to give you a little bit
of a backstory here.
I have in the past few months,I hired a personal trainer to help
me with my fitness.
And a lot of times us artists,we don't think about our personal
fitness that much.
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But if you think about it,when you have that personal fitness,
when you have that area inyour life unlock, when it's ready
and good to go, then you'regoing to have more energy to go ahead
and do the things you want to do.
And you can avoid burnout, youcan avoid health issues like I have,
(02:33):
and you can just do betterwith your creativity.
So I'm going to get out of theway here and play for you.
Our interview that we just did.
Folks, I want to thank you allfor joining us here on Create Art
Podcast.
I have the privilege of havingTrey the Fit artist on the show today.
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Trey, how is it down whereyou're at, man?
It's all good.
Man is weather is crazy.
One minute is we just gotthrough raining and then one minute
is cold and the next minute is hot.
So it's crazy man.
You don't know what to wearout there.
I don't know if you seen thecat Williams stand up where he was
saying you don't know what to wear.
He said he in rain boots andstuff like that and swim trunks and
(03:16):
stuff like that.
Cuz you don't know what'sgoing to go on that's like what the
weather is here.
Yeah, we're having that herein Virginia right now.
We got.
We've got some heavy rains andwinds today.
Last week we had eight inchesof snow.
This coming week we're goingto have another eight inches of snow.
We'll send some down your wayif you don't mind.
Now I'm done with it.
Yeah, it don't really get toocold here so we ain't used to a lot
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of cold weather.
Don't really even snow here.
When we do get snow we get.
Most people get a shock ordon't and then also too don't even
know how to drive in this.
In.
In the.
In the snow and everything aswell but.
But yeah, I don' if I couldhandle it.
They don't know how to driveup here in Virginia either.
We were talking earlier.
I'm originally from Chicago.
They can't drive on a sunnyday here in Virginia.
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So.
Okay, I'm gonna lose a bunchof Virginia listeners, but that's
okay.
Trey, I'm very happy to haveyou on here for some personal reasons
that we'll get into but youmessaged me on Pod Match and you
have a unique story here.
You're into art, you're amusician and you're a fitness guy.
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So I got to start off with howdo you connect.
Help me connect the dots withart and fitness.
How does that work togetherfor you?
Okay.
I guess I would say more so ifI can say the messaging around it
and so forth.
I believe fitness is a artform in itself as we sculpting our
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body to a certain degree andalso with the me being an artist
as well is something I alwaysdone since the beginning, since I
was younger and so forth.
And this is really somethingI'm going into doing now, starting
my music artist career and so forth.
But blending them together andso forth.
It definitely helps me a lotfor is the mental clarity and the
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discipline that it takes forboth facets of those realms of world
and being where you can beable to Produce your best self.
So like me being a fitnesscoach and trainer, me to be able
to motivate people and helpthem out with their goals and so
forth.
And also me on the other sidebeing, let's say present and having
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the energy and stuff so forth,even the thought process to even
crank out lyrics and puttingit into pen and paper and everything
and getting that out as well,putting them together and everything
just helped me to crank out alot and be the best version of myself
on both field.
That's amazing, man.
That's amazing.
I.
We were talking before we hitrecord here.
I have a personal trainer.
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I have one now for about fouror five months.
And I'm of an age, I'm of.
An age of an age.
Okay.
I'm 52 and I've been an artistmy whole life.
And I got to say I've got toecho what you're saying there is
I haven't felt when I was 18,when I first got in the Air Force,
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I had a ton of energy and all that.
At 52, having twins and kidsin the house and full time job, really
the commute takes a lot out of you.
But when I started mytraining, I've gotten a ton of energy
so that way I can do my art.
And is that what you'refinding with maybe some of your clients?
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Is that it's almost counterintuitive.
We work out, we work hard inthe gym and then we have more energy.
How does that work?
Because I'm completelyignorant about it.
You're the expert.
Okay, so are you asking likehow do you have more energy to do
what you do when it's fitness?
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It depends on no matter whatyou're doing in the morning, midday
or evening when you work outand so forth, it releases the endorphins
in you and everything toenergize you, supercharge you in
a sense.
And most people like when theydo it in the daytime, especially
with artists, entertainers andso forth, they kind of got to get
up early and stuff like thatand do got a long schedule ahead
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of them or a long day ahead of them.
They're putting fitness in theepicenter of that where they work
out and so forth.
No matter if they doing like a30 minute workout, it can be at home.
You don't got to be at the gymor something like that.
It doing that definitely wakesthem up, wakes the body up, shocks
the body and everything andenergizes you.
And keep in mind eating withit, eating pretty decent with it
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as well.
Helps fuel your day and so forth.
Let's talk about thediscipline that it takes.
Being an artist and then beinga fitness coach, being a trainer.
Is there a lot of similaritiesthat you're seeing with that?
Yes.
Now I want to like prefacethat I wasn't always starting into
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my artistry and so forth.
So I always.
There's been.
I've been a trainer way morethan I've been an artist.
It's always been in thebackground of me wanting to do it,
but I'm just not going out for it.
But yeah, it is somesimilarities where, like I said,
the discipline part of it,where you.
When you looking at.
With fitness and so forth,getting it to be in a routine, eating
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a certain way and having.
Not necessarily saying havinga schedule, but having a regimen
that you're doing, thatdefinitely applies to how you do
it.
Do that at a certain level.
When you are making music andso forth, writing and everything.
So it's a process that you're doing.
It's a certain discipline tokeep it going, to keep it cranking
out and stuff like that anddoing it at a high level as well.
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When you making music and soforth or writing music, you want
to set your set of time out todo it and say, okay, I'm gonna do
it for this amount of time.
I know artists is like on thefly and on the go, but some of the
stuff we gotta do, gotta havein a time frame or else everything
gonna be crazy.
And then.
And again, let's say we onboth sides or whether you.
(09:02):
You saying you're too busy towork out, or if you saying there's
a lot going on, you can'twrite, then that makes it where you
probably won't do it at all on everything.
So that make it a lot of yoursand everything.
So if you're really seriousand dedicated and commitment committed,
it makes it all jail in and everything.
So in.
In order to be able to do bothat a high level.
If that makes sense.
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No, that absolutely makes sense.
Absolutely something that I'mreminded of by what you're saying.
There is a guy that I follow,his name is Seth Godin and he is
a huge one that says thatartists, people have writer's block
or stuff like that.
But plumbers don't haveplumber's block.
(09:44):
They've got plumber's crack,but they don't have plumber's block.
Okay.
And I like that, thatdiscipline that you're talking about,
that when we're working on ourbody and when we're working on our
art because I used to be ofthe opinion that I gotta wait for
inspiration to hit me before Ido anything.
(10:05):
And for me, that was justbeing lazy.
Yeah.
And I know for when I go tothe gym, there's days I don't want
to go, I'm not inspired to goto the gym.
Right.
Look down on my belly and I'mlike, okay, that should be enough
to inspire me to get off mybutt and go to the gym.
But you.
You would think.
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Yeah, you would think.
But.
But I like the idea thatyou're having here of just showing
up and showing up to the gym.
Now, there's some days, I willtell you, my trainer knows this too.
I show up to the gym, I get inthe hot tub, I walk around the gym,
and then I go home.
Because I'm like, I got to the gym.
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That was my first thing.
I had the intention, and I got there.
But then the same thing withart is I get into my studio and I
get playing my music.
Okay.
I get there now, sometimessomething great is going to happen
and I'll sell a million records.
I.
I'm kidding.
Hey, as long as you live inthis, you still able to.
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You know what I'm saying?
So don't sell yourself short.
Okay, you know what?
From your mouth to God's ears,we're gonna go ahead and make that
happen.
Yes, sir.
When it now with the peoplethat you're training, are you training
a lot of artists right now or, or.
Or are you just starting thatphysically training artists at this
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point?
I have did a couple, but thisis like a new niche.
I'm going down lane and soforth from what I was originally
doing.
Most of the people I wereworking with were like saying avatar
of saying like, men and womenage 25 to 55 looking to lose a little
weight, get, you know, bodybuild a little bit, lose fat and
so forth, Stuff like that.
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Yeah.
Okay.
All right, sounds good.
Are you noticing?
So the.
And I'm going to use Hughesair quotes, the regular people versus
us crazy artists, what's thedifferent challenges?
Or are there any challengesthat you're noticing that artists
bring to bring to the gymversus a regular person?
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Everybody busy to a degree,but with artists and entertainers,
it is.
It is.
That's almost like a jobitself, if that makes sense.
With a regular 9 to 5 most, itcuts off, you know what I'm saying?
You go in at 9 to 5, you cutwork off.
But with artists andentertainers and so forth, it they
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making.
They producing the art.
But then at the same time,they gotta do other stuff.
Okay.
Now I gotta go do theinterviews, I gotta do the background
stuff that people don't seeand stuff like that, so it don't
really turns out for them.
And being a fitness coach, Ican relate to that because that's
the same the way I operate as well.
So those are the differences there.
They are super busy.
They pulled into.
In many different directions,and it's hard for them to basically
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get into a fitness routine anddiet regimen and effectively getting
there because, you know,they're constantly on the road, they
doing shows and stuff likethat on stage and all that.
So there's finding that.
That balance through it all orthrough all the chaos, I would say
is one of their biggest challenges.
I gotcha.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
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Like when we go see the.
The super bowl halftime showand you see all those artists out
there and they're all superfit and they're dancing around and
they're doing that for anhour, and I look at that and I'm
like, oh, my God, that's a lotof work.
Funny you mentioned that,since with the super bowl, with Kendra
Lamar doing it, he doesn'thave a backtrack and so forth.
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So he's doing thisspecifically on his own breath.
He's not using the track tofill in the words he not saying and
so forth.
And also he heading out thecuss words and everything as well.
You got to have a sense ofendurance and stamina to even do
that, to be able to say thewords and move like he was moving
and so forth and everything.
It takes some kind ofdiscipline or some type of fitness
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regimen to even do stuff like that.
That's for sure.
That is for definite.
Sure.
I know when I'm doing my musicor when I'm doing my writing and
then I go perform it out in public.
Before I was working out, itwas taxing.
Okay.
And I was abusing my body anddoing all the stupid things that
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as artists do.
We won't go into that becausestatute of limitations and all that
kind of good stuff.
Oh, man.
Okay.
We ain't got to talk about it,but go ahead.
No, no, we're not going totalk about that today.
But as artists, we do abuseour bodies a lot.
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And I definitely see thebenefit that being one of the benefits
is the endurance, the ability to.
Because all of all artists,doesn't matter what we do.
Dancer, painter, writer,musician, whatever art you're in,
you're doing it with your bodyand if your body's out of whack,
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you're not going to be able todo it for that long or that well.
Most definitely.
What are some other benefits?
Working out with a, with atrainer such as yourself for artists,
do you think?
I deliver mine via online.
So with artists, entertainersbeing constantly busy, wherever they
go, I go.
I'm in your back pocket pretty much.
So you definitely gettingsomebody that's.
That knows the grind in asense because like I said fitness
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world, being a fitness coachis not too much of a difference in
how we move and how we workand so forth.
So I definitely know the grindand everything as well.
How to be able to crank outmusic and whatever your medium is,
be able to do that at a high level.
I would say I'm able to helpyou out in that way.
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Where a lot of people thinkthat when you do fitness and so forth,
you got to be.
It got to automatically be inthe gym.
You got to spend hours andhours in the gym and so forth to
really achieve your set goals.
So it's not really that I'mable to do where if you need the
gym we I can tell you how todo that.
But also if.
If it's a little since let'ssay the person might want to lose
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weight, lose fat and so forth,doesn't want to keep maintain what
they got or something likethat, then it's workout that you
can do it in the comfort ofyour own home.
If you're on on stage and theback backstage or however got workout
where you can get in 10, 20minutes and stuff like that.
A lot of folks don't realizethat a 10 minute, 20 minute workout,
your body again really benefitfrom that and so forth.
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So getting that in and stillit ain't taking a lot out your day
or your time for is what, whatwhatever you got going on throughout
that day.
And also having a diet alongwith that as well because artists
lead, they have a very baddiet regimen and so forth.
Yeah.
So parties and constantlyeating food, fast food on the road
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and stuff like this.
I can help them be able toimplement ways that they can make
the food beneficial to themrather than detrimental.
Excellent.
Excellent.
How is your.
How have you evolved in yourapproach from when you first started
training people to today?
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And then I'm also going to askyou on the artist side, how has your
music evolved from when youstarted doing music until today?
Okay.
Starting out with everythingyou don't know what you don't know.
I was When I first got outthere, I wanted to work at a gym.
And at time I'm here inMississippi, in Jackson, Mississippi.
So at the time when I startedin 2013, it wasn't a lot of gyms
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around here.
Still ain't a lot now, butit's more than it was back then.
And I was pushed out there tostart on my own and everything.
They didn't really know whatyou would know, so I didn't really
know my style.
I didn't know the wholestructure for what client I want
to work with and so forth.
And getting them there.
The structure.
I know how to get them there,but to structure it out and getting
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them there, I would say that was.
That's how I was then, but nowI've been doing it almost 12 years
now.
Now I'm more confident andstuff like that.
I got a certain style, way Ido, type of system I train my clients
in and a structure that I havethem go through and everything.
So I know this particularclient, I need to get him here, him
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there, or she needs this.
I can get her in this wayusing this system.
So in every client that I takeon, I don't take them on as a cookie
cutter approach, is more likewhere I meet them where they are
and meet them where they areand then get them to the point where
they want to be and so forth.
Good deal.
Good deal.
And I agree with you, it isdefinitely a.
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You.
You can't do a cookie cutter approach.
Because I know with mytrainer, he's constantly looking
at where I'm at physically metmedically and all that kind of stuff
and adjusting as needed.
Our first session, I'm alittle bit embarrassed to admit this,
but.
So our first session, I juststarted some new medication and I
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didn't tell him about it.
I didn't think to tell himabout it.
And we got 15 minutes into it.
We were just doing somestretches with one of those big balls,
those balance balls and allthat kind of stuff, and we're good
to go.
And then we go downstairs andwe go right to a couple of machines.
And I did one set, one set.
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Not hard weight at all.
Barely any weight at all.
And I passed out.
I hit the deck.
That's our biggest nightmareright there.
But go ahead.
But with that communicationthat we have that we've developed
now, and if I got to go do ablood test, I don't work out with
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him that day.
I let him know, hey, listen, Ihad to give blood here and.
And all that kind of good Stuff.
And.
And the great thing is my condition.
I have hypertension, highblood pressure, which is under control
right now, which is good.
And I also have multiple sclerosis.
Okay.
Which you look at me andyou're like, you've got ms, Tim.
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It's a weird thing.
I'm battling fatigue all the time.
But he has gone and done someresearch into the best ways to train
me.
So that first day passed out.
Haven't passed out yet.
And we start every sessionwith today.
We are not going to pass out.
Okay.
We're not going to pass out.
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So I can definitely assureeverybody that if you get a good
trainer like Trey here,they're going.
They're going to be.
They need to know about your body.
They need to know what's going on.
So you can't do a cookiecutter kind of thing.
And I'm glad you said that.
Yes.
So basically what you'resaying is communication, basically,
that goes a long way because Idon't know what I don't know on everything.
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So in order, I always tell myclients, for me to help you, you
got to communicate with me on everything.
Because I don't know what'sgoing on fully.
Whatever you thinking and thatbe the, like, the biggest part or
barrier that I had to get withclients is the communication part.
Because some of them think,okay, like, I can be on now I can
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ask you, like, how you feelingand did you do this or what do you
think about this and stufflike that.
That's just me guessing andgrasping the.
Just trying to see if something.
Something.
If something tries to comeabout that I need to help you with,
but I don't.
But you know what you needhelp with.
So when I come.
When they come to me andeverything, I have a question or
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it's something I like, well,or they did something that they probably
shouldn't been doing and everything.
I said you could have did itthis way.
I said, you just asked me.
Oh, I didn't think I needed toask you.
I thought I was doing like,nah, that's what I'm here for.
You know what I'm saying?
So even if you don't know ifit's a.
If you don't think it'ssomething big or small or you don't
really know, just ask anyway.
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Whether you think it is dumbor whatever, just ask me.
In a way we can get through it.
But communication definitelyis key on everything.
And I also work with a clientthat has multiple sclerosis as well,
so I understand what you'resaying with the getting tired and
so forth.
And when we was doing it, Iwas doing it virtually with her.
When we was doing it, we wassometimes do get tired during the
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session.
It was like a third, a 30minute session.
So I always constantly beasking, how you feeling?
You all right?
We good?
Yeah, I'm good.
And she'll let me know too.
I'm getting a little tired.
Okay.
Okay.
Then we.
The workout I had planned, I'mgonna cut it down for you so we can
go and get through with it andstuff like that.
So the communication goes along way.
So you don't tell me anything.
I.
I can't train you or coach.
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You effectively because if youdon't tell Trey everything, you're
gonna end up like Tim,obviously on the ground and it's
going to be silly.
So we don't want that tohappen to anybody.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I mean, so now on the flipside, let's talk about music.
Okay.
Let's talk about your art.
How has that evolved over the years?
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All right, so I would say itcome up, speed it up.
I'll go back in time, but I'mgonna speed it up to current.
But I started knowing,noticing my.
My skills are being entertained.
My genre is hip hop, by the way.
And I started noticing mywriting skills and stuff like that
very own early in my years.
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I.
I wanted to rap and stuff likethat back then, but I didn't really
go through with it.
And I was.
I always wrote poems and stufflike that and little literary works
and stuff like that.
I love stuff like that.
So English was one of myfavorite subjects growing up, but
I didn't ever go through ituntil like I always wanted to do
it.
It's always been the back ofmy mind and it didn't never leave
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me.
That kind of stuck with me.
I was even trying to see how Ican interject it with what I'm doing
now.
Hence why I'm doing it, whatI'm doing now.
But.
But back then when I waswriting to like where I was writing,
but I wouldn't write into abeat, so I was already writing in
a poem.
I hear Kendra Lamar was like apoet, poet first and stuff like that.
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So I think you hear some ofhis early work.
When I heard it, I was like,ah, yeah, that's it.
Do sound like that.
Okay, so if you ain't writingto a beat and everything like that,
you just put it to a beat.
You can tell it ain't gellingor mission and stuff like that.
So when I was writing, that'show I was writing.
So if you would see my earlyworks, before I was doing it, how
I wrote everything was in thatpoem type of.
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It was no car trains oranything like that or whatever.
Breaking in the.
In fours and stuff like that.
But now when I started gettinginto it, and this definitely happened
when it was like in.
During the COVID time.
I think that's when we startedreally like discovering what we can
do and all that stuff like this.
During that I was likeresearching like how to write rhymes
and all that stuff like that.
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And they were telling me,telling you, like, you gotta count
the bars in the song when thebeat going on the twos and the fours.
And when I did that, they letyou know how many.
Like how long that verse is,when to start the chords and when
it.
Or the hook or Anyway, even ifit's a bridge in there and so forth.
When I found that structure,when I started writing in that.
Now that's when I startedbreaking it up into fours and everything
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like that.
And then you look at some ofthe stuff that I written before,
I even knew that in this timehere, this.
This current time, it's a lot different.
If I try to rap what I didbefore, I knew the new structure
and stuff like that, it don'teven sound the same.
They sound completelydifferent and everything.
So I had to see myself likethose early works, I like, I might
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have to go in there andrewrite it so I can.
With the current structurethat I know how to do now and everything
to make it more jail and stufflike that.
Because at the time my ear ishearing it, I heard it.
To me, it sounded like it wasgonna be.
And it was at the time.
But now with the new ears is awhole lot different and so forth.
So I would say in.
In that.
In that manner, I evolved there.
(26:03):
So writing to an actual beatversus how we used to write back
then and everything.
And also to finding beats andeverything, getting it out so forth.
When at the time it took me not.
Not to say time is of course,if you wrote something in 30 minutes
versus a couple hours.
But the whole process offinding a beat and writing, I would
(26:24):
say that has gotten a lotbetter than.
Excuse me over the time and soforth and everything.
So those.
Those few things that I havenoticed, you know, getting used to
my voice, how I'm gonna soundand stuff like that versus what I
was doing when I was recordingmyself and everything earlier.
All those I would say havechanged over time.
Awesome.
And taking care of your voice, too.
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Yes.
That's huge.
Because, you know, if you'resitting there, you know, yelling
your head off or drinking alittle too much of something or smoking
too much of something, whichis a thing that I've had to give
up myself.
It can really.
It's an instrument, and theycan really.
You got to really take greatcare of it.
See?
(27:05):
All boys back to fitness.
Yep.
It does.
It does.
Yeah.
So it's better not.
It's better to put that.
That vape down or that.
That cigarette down and go tothe gym and work it out.
I need to learn that lesson.
I need to learn it.
It's all good.
I mean, I know Busta Rhymes.
(27:25):
He was talking about somethinglike that he didn't understand with
Mariah Carey, and she wassupposed to do, like, a song with
him or something like that.
And she was talking about.
She was resting her voice andhe thought she was playing him.
And until.
I don't see how, with all thatstreaming and all that stuff he was
doing back in the day andstuff like that, and he.
Then he went one.
He was.
When he.
Once his voice went out, heunderstood what she was doing and
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everything like this.
Think that's a lot.
What.
When it comes to fitness withartists and entertainer, they don't
understand that to do theirjob at a high level, it comes with
them, their body and thembeing in shape and eating a certain
way and living a certain wayto even do that at a high level.
I think they conflate the twoand everything.
They think it's just one thing.
I can't do this without theother, or I can't do this because
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of the other and so forth.
If I'm gonna be doing fitness,I don't need to be doing making music.
But they can definitely liveand coincide with each.
Not can they need to be.
You know what I'm saying as well.
Sure.
Now, if you could collaboratewith an artist or an athlete that
was really embodying, youknow, this whole getting your physical
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fitness and your inspiration,your art.
Artistic fitness.
Oh, there we go.
I like it.
Artistic fitness.
There we go.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna patent that.
And I'll give you 10%, not a problem.
Okay, I'll give you 20%because you're stronger than I am.
Come on now.
Come on now.
But is there somebody that ifI wave my magic wand and go, all
(28:57):
right, you're gonna work with?
Trey, who's that person gonna be?
Or who would you like it to beof musically either way, musically
or athlete wise.
Oh, my inspiration that got meinto wanting to do it.
I would say Ludacris on everything.
Then I.
As I see him now on everything.
Like I said that that would bea dream interview for my podcast.
But as I see him doing that, he's.
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He working out and all thatstuff a lot in the.
In that space.
So I would say that would be atwofer right there because he.
He actually works out and heactually makes music too as well.
The Rock and everything like that.
Because I consider myself abodybuilder and everything like that.
Me and him around the sameheight, about around the same weight
and stuff like that.
So that would be aninteresting person to collab with
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and everything in that.
In that way as well and everything.
So I would say those twopeople that right now, if I had to
say, come to mind those twopeople right there.
Awesome.
Ludicrous.
And rock.
Yeah, The Rock.
Yes, sir, the Rock.
Trey is starting a new podcast here.
So I'm just.
If you guys want to get in onthe ground floor and hook it up,
(29:59):
we're going to promote it hereat Create Art Podcast.
But Trey, can you talk alittle bit about the podcast that
you're building right now, asliterally as we're speaking?
Yes, sir.
Name of the podcast is calledScope and Create, and it's basically
where we'll be discussingartists and entertainers and other
(30:19):
creators journeys and theyjourney that process, mindsets and
so forth.
And then also how they areintegrating fitness into all that
as well and to shine it on andoff stage.
And also too, I will also betalking with health and wellness
professionals as well in waysthat they can help artists and entertainers
in that same facet, whether itbe mental health, physical health
(30:43):
and so forth, and thenutrition and stuff like that.
So it definitely where itputting both together, blending artistry
with fitness and in that mindset.
So it'd be where we talkingfitness a little bit, but it's more
so about their artistry, theyjourney and stuff like that as well,
and getting to know thempersonally and everything what they
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got going on.
That's exciting to hear.
So folks, you heard it here first.
It's coming out.
We're gonna get ludicrous onthat one.
We're gonna get the Rock.
I would even say LL Cool J.
I mean, it's funny you said that.
Like, I was thinking of allthe people that I could work with
for the show.
Those would be the dreaminterviews and stuff like that.
(31:25):
So yes, LA Cool J was one andit's funny, like I said.
Again, funny you said that.
I was already thinking that.
But my.
So when I really started,like, working out, I was working
out with my dad for the first one.
Like, when I was like, 14, 15.
You used to work out with hima lot.
And got my first gym.
Giving you a little story, buthe got my first gym set when I was,
(31:47):
like, 15 and so forth.
And then later on before,like, a little bit after he got diagnosed
with cancer and so forth, hegot us in the gym membership, and
it started from there and everything.
So he came.
He gave me the tools to startwith, and then I just found my own
lane, found out what my bodyresponded to, and then my own routine
versus what he gave me.
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But to say that is.
I had got this LL Cool J book.
LL Cool J had a workout bookin early 2000, and that was one of
the workout books that I hadworked out to and almost hurt my
back, too, trying to notreally know him fully how to work
out back then.
This was before I became afitness coach and stuff like that.
(32:30):
But I had used.
Doing what he was saying in that.
In.
In that workout book.
I had.
I had hurt my back.
Not to say that's on him, butI just was doing too much and didn't
understand it fully.
But that was one of my firstintroductions to, like, in the gym.
Let me get this LL Cool J book.
So, yeah, that would be a goodinterview, I would think.
And all the people that I'mthinking about.
Kevin Hart is another one.
He working out pretty good,but he has his own finger training.
(32:52):
But just to interview him aswell and everything like that.
So those people in a spacethat would definitely embody that
mission and that.
That vision that I see forblending artistry and fitness together.
But he doesn't have Trey yet.
That's the thing.
He doesn't have Trey yet.
I've got Trey on my show.
(33:12):
He needs to be on.
He needs to be on your show, Trey.
All right.
Good deal.
Trey, it's been a privilege tohave you on the show here.
Thank you so much for sharingyour artistry with us, your expertise
with fitness with us and everyone.
You're an artist.
You need to keep your artfitness and your body fitness.
(33:33):
So we're going to put that onthe T shirt, dude.
We're going to make millionsfrom that.
I'm feeling it.
Awesome.
Trey, thank you again so much.
Thank you for having me, man.
All right, again, I want tothank Trey for a wonderful conversation
that we have.
He inspired me to redouble myefforts in my physical fitness to
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help with my artistry.
I hope he's done the same for you.
You can definitely reach outto him.
He's got a website, Next World Fitness.com.
check it out for yourself.
And maybe you hire Trey on asa personal trainer.
Just let him know that I sentyou over there.
Okay?
I don't get anything specialfrom it.
I just get the knowledge thatyou are taking care of yourself.
(34:20):
And like, I always end these episodes.
You know, do some art forsomebody you love yourself.
Get your health in line forsomebody you love yourself.
Okay, that's the episode herefor you.
I want to mention a few thingshere as I leave.
One of the ways I get greatguests is through a service called
(34:40):
PodMatch.
I have my affiliate link inthe show note there.
And sometimes I do getcompensation for having guests from
Pod Match on this show.
But I want to tell you that Iwouldn't bring these guests on the
show if I didn't think theyhave something to share with my audience.
So definitely, if you're outthere and you're an artist and thinking,
(35:03):
hey, I want to get on podcast,give Pod Match a look, See?
And if you're a podcaster,Definitely check out PodMatch to
get great guests like I gotwith Trey.
So check it out for yourself.
The next thing I want to talkabout, and this is mainly for the
podcaster that listens to the show.
But if you want an easy way toshare your show, check out Podcast
(35:26):
Beacon.
Again, I have my affiliatelink in the show.
I do get a little bit ofcompensation if you use it.
If you don't want to go thatroute, just go to Podcast Beacon
and check it out for yourself.
What it is you get.
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(35:46):
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It's an easy way to share yourpodcast, and my good buddy Matthew
Passey runs it, so I know it'sbeing run correctly.
Last thing I want to talkabout is I do have a business that
(36:09):
I just started up this year in 2025.
Go figure, right?
It's called TKB Podcast Studio.
And what I do there is I helpyou start your podcast.
So if you've been thinkingabout starting a podcast, definitely
go to my website, tkb podcaststudio.com reach out to me.
I want to help you do exactlywhat I do because let me tell you,
(36:32):
podcasting is a lot of fun andwith at TKB Podcast Studio we lead
through all that noise withquiet professionalism.
All right, that's all I havefor you here today.
I want to thank again Trey theFit Artist for joining me on today's
show.
I know you got something outof it.
Feel free to share it with a friend.
(36:52):
It costs you nothing to do that.
And if you'd like to be on theshow, email me.
Timothy createartpodcast.comI'd love to share your story with
everyone else that listens tothis podcast.
Now go out there, tame yourinner critic.
Create more than you consume.
(37:14):
Go hit the gym for even 15 minutes.
Go hit the gym, do somethinggood for yourself and then go create
some art for somebody you love.
Yourself.
I'll talk to you next time.
It.
Create Art Podcast InterviewTrey hello, friend.
This is Timothy Keem O'Brien,your head instigator for Create Art
Podcast, where I bring my over30 years of experience in the arts
and education world to helpyou tame your inner critic.
(00:27):
Create more than you consume.
So in today's episode, I'mgoing to be interviewing Trey de
Fit Artist.
Now, I got to tell you thatI've received a slew of interview
requests to be on this show.
So if you want to be on theshow, definitely shoot me an email
(00:48):
and let me know why you wantto be on the show.
And I'd be happy to get yourmessage out to everyone that listens
to this.
But Trey reached out to methrough Pod Match and I'll talk more
about Pod Match at the end ofthe podcast.
But let me tell you a littlebit about Trey because this guy had
me excited from Jump street.
(01:09):
Now, Trey is a fitness coachfor artists, entertainers and creatives,
as well as a music artist himself.
Now, he's the founder of NextWorld Fitness and creator of Fit
Masterpiece Collabs, where hehelps performers sustain energy,
avoid burnout, and optimizetheir health to stay at the top of
their game.
(01:29):
Get ready to learn how fitnessfuels creativity.
And we're going to welcomeTrey the Fit Artist to this show.
And you can find out all aboutTrey and his work if you go to his
website.
It's nextworld fitness.com ifyou don't have a pen and paper handy,
don't worry about it.
(01:50):
I've got it in the show notesfor you.
Now, when Trey reached out tome, I have to give you a little bit
of a backstory here.
I have in the past few months,I hired a personal trainer to help
me with my fitness.
And a lot of times us artists,we don't think about our personal
fitness that much.
(02:11):
But if you think about it,when you have that personal fitness,
when you have that area inyour life unlock, when it's ready
and good to go, then you'regoing to have more energy to go ahead
and do the things you want to do.
And you can avoid burnout, youcan avoid health issues like I have,
(02:33):
and you can just do betterwith your creativity.
So I'm going to get out of theway here and play for you.
Our interview that we just did.
Folks, I want to thank you allfor joining us here on Create Art
Podcast.
I have the privilege of havingTrey the Fit artist on the show today.
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Trey, how is it down whereyou're at, man?
It's all good.
Man is weather is crazy.
One minute is we just gotthrough raining and then one minute
is cold and the next minute is hot.
So it's crazy man.
You don't know what to wearout there.
I don't know if you seen thecat Williams stand up where he was
saying you don't know what to wear.
He said he in rain boots andstuff like that and swim trunks and
(03:16):
stuff like that.
Cuz you don't know what'sgoing to go on that's like what the
weather is here.
Yeah, we're having that herein Virginia right now.
We got.
We've got some heavy rains andwinds today.
Last week we had eight inchesof snow.
This coming week we're goingto have another eight inches of snow.
We'll send some down your wayif you don't mind.
Now I'm done with it.
Yeah, it don't really get toocold here so we ain't used to a lot
(03:37):
of cold weather.
Don't really even snow here.
When we do get snow we get.
Most people get a shock ordon't and then also too don't even
know how to drive in this.
In.
In the.
In the snow and everything aswell but.
But yeah, I don' if I couldhandle it.
They don't know how to driveup here in Virginia either.
We were talking earlier.
I'm originally from Chicago.
They can't drive on a sunnyday here in Virginia.
(03:59):
So.
Okay, I'm gonna lose a bunchof Virginia listeners, but that's
okay.
Trey, I'm very happy to haveyou on here for some personal reasons
that we'll get into but youmessaged me on Pod Match and you
have a unique story here.
You're into art, you're amusician and you're a fitness guy.
(04:20):
So I got to start off with howdo you connect.
Help me connect the dots withart and fitness.
How does that work togetherfor you?
Okay.
I guess I would say more so ifI can say the messaging around it
and so forth.
I believe fitness is a artform in itself as we sculpting our
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body to a certain degree andalso with the me being an artist
as well is something I alwaysdone since the beginning, since I
was younger and so forth.
And this is really somethingI'm going into doing now, starting
my music artist career and so forth.
But blending them together andso forth.
It definitely helps me a lotfor is the mental clarity and the
(05:04):
discipline that it takes forboth facets of those realms of world
and being where you can beable to Produce your best self.
So like me being a fitnesscoach and trainer, me to be able
to motivate people and helpthem out with their goals and so
forth.
And also me on the other sidebeing, let's say present and having
(05:25):
the energy and stuff so forth,even the thought process to even
crank out lyrics and puttingit into pen and paper and everything
and getting that out as well,putting them together and everything
just helped me to crank out alot and be the best version of myself
on both field.
That's amazing, man.
That's amazing.
I.
We were talking before we hitrecord here.
I have a personal trainer.
(05:46):
I have one now for about fouror five months.
And I'm of an age, I'm of.
An age of an age.
Okay.
I'm 52 and I've been an artistmy whole life.
And I got to say I've got toecho what you're saying there is
I haven't felt when I was 18,when I first got in the Air Force,
(06:09):
I had a ton of energy and all that.
At 52, having twins and kidsin the house and full time job, really
the commute takes a lot out of you.
But when I started mytraining, I've gotten a ton of energy
so that way I can do my art.
And is that what you'refinding with maybe some of your clients?
(06:29):
Is that it's almost counterintuitive.
We work out, we work hard inthe gym and then we have more energy.
How does that work?
Because I'm completelyignorant about it.
You're the expert.
Okay, so are you asking likehow do you have more energy to do
what you do when it's fitness?
(06:50):
It depends on no matter whatyou're doing in the morning, midday
or evening when you work outand so forth, it releases the endorphins
in you and everything toenergize you, supercharge you in
a sense.
And most people like when theydo it in the daytime, especially
with artists, entertainers andso forth, they kind of got to get
up early and stuff like thatand do got a long schedule ahead
(07:11):
of them or a long day ahead of them.
They're putting fitness in theepicenter of that where they work
out and so forth.
No matter if they doing like a30 minute workout, it can be at home.
You don't got to be at the gymor something like that.
It doing that definitely wakesthem up, wakes the body up, shocks
the body and everything andenergizes you.
And keep in mind eating withit, eating pretty decent with it
(07:32):
as well.
Helps fuel your day and so forth.
Let's talk about thediscipline that it takes.
Being an artist and then beinga fitness coach, being a trainer.
Is there a lot of similaritiesthat you're seeing with that?
Yes.
Now I want to like prefacethat I wasn't always starting into
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my artistry and so forth.
So I always.
There's been.
I've been a trainer way morethan I've been an artist.
It's always been in thebackground of me wanting to do it,
but I'm just not going out for it.
But yeah, it is somesimilarities where, like I said,
the discipline part of it,where you.
When you looking at.
With fitness and so forth,getting it to be in a routine, eating
(08:18):
a certain way and having.
Not necessarily saying havinga schedule, but having a regimen
that you're doing, thatdefinitely applies to how you do
it.
Do that at a certain level.
When you are making music andso forth, writing and everything.
So it's a process that you're doing.
It's a certain discipline tokeep it going, to keep it cranking
out and stuff like that anddoing it at a high level as well.
(08:40):
When you making music and soforth or writing music, you want
to set your set of time out todo it and say, okay, I'm gonna do
it for this amount of time.
I know artists is like on thefly and on the go, but some of the
stuff we gotta do, gotta havein a time frame or else everything
gonna be crazy.
And then.
And again, let's say we onboth sides or whether you.
(09:02):
You saying you're too busy towork out, or if you saying there's
a lot going on, you can'twrite, then that makes it where you
probably won't do it at all on everything.
So that make it a lot of yoursand everything.
So if you're really seriousand dedicated and commitment committed,
it makes it all jail in and everything.
So in.
In order to be able to do bothat a high level.
If that makes sense.
(09:23):
No, that absolutely makes sense.
Absolutely something that I'mreminded of by what you're saying.
There is a guy that I follow,his name is Seth Godin and he is
a huge one that says thatartists, people have writer's block
or stuff like that.
But plumbers don't haveplumber's block.
(09:44):
They've got plumber's crack,but they don't have plumber's block.
Okay.
And I like that, thatdiscipline that you're talking about,
that when we're working on ourbody and when we're working on our
art because I used to be ofthe opinion that I gotta wait for
inspiration to hit me before Ido anything.
(10:05):
And for me, that was justbeing lazy.
Yeah.
And I know for when I go tothe gym, there's days I don't want
to go, I'm not inspired to goto the gym.
Right.
Look down on my belly and I'mlike, okay, that should be enough
to inspire me to get off mybutt and go to the gym.
But you.
You would think.
(10:26):
Yeah, you would think.
But.
But I like the idea thatyou're having here of just showing
up and showing up to the gym.
Now, there's some days, I willtell you, my trainer knows this too.
I show up to the gym, I get inthe hot tub, I walk around the gym,
and then I go home.
Because I'm like, I got to the gym.
(10:47):
That was my first thing.
I had the intention, and I got there.
But then the same thing withart is I get into my studio and I
get playing my music.
Okay.
I get there now, sometimessomething great is going to happen
and I'll sell a million records.
I.
I'm kidding.
Hey, as long as you live inthis, you still able to.
(11:09):
You know what I'm saying?
So don't sell yourself short.
Okay, you know what?
From your mouth to God's ears,we're gonna go ahead and make that
happen.
Yes, sir.
When it now with the peoplethat you're training, are you training
a lot of artists right now or, or.
Or are you just starting thatphysically training artists at this
(11:29):
point?
I have did a couple, but thisis like a new niche.
I'm going down lane and soforth from what I was originally
doing.
Most of the people I wereworking with were like saying avatar
of saying like, men and womenage 25 to 55 looking to lose a little
weight, get, you know, bodybuild a little bit, lose fat and
so forth, Stuff like that.
(11:50):
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, sounds good.
Are you noticing?
So the.
And I'm going to use Hughesair quotes, the regular people versus
us crazy artists, what's thedifferent challenges?
Or are there any challengesthat you're noticing that artists
bring to bring to the gymversus a regular person?
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Everybody busy to a degree,but with artists and entertainers,
it is.
It is.
That's almost like a jobitself, if that makes sense.
With a regular 9 to 5 most, itcuts off, you know what I'm saying?
You go in at 9 to 5, you cutwork off.
But with artists andentertainers and so forth, it they
(12:37):
making.
They producing the art.
But then at the same time,they gotta do other stuff.
Okay.
Now I gotta go do theinterviews, I gotta do the background
stuff that people don't seeand stuff like that, so it don't
really turns out for them.
And being a fitness coach, Ican relate to that because that's
the same the way I operate as well.
So those are the differences there.
They are super busy.
They pulled into.
In many different directions,and it's hard for them to basically
(13:04):
get into a fitness routine anddiet regimen and effectively getting
there because, you know,they're constantly on the road, they
doing shows and stuff likethat on stage and all that.
So there's finding that.
That balance through it all orthrough all the chaos, I would say
is one of their biggest challenges.
I gotcha.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
(13:24):
Like when we go see the.
The super bowl halftime showand you see all those artists out
there and they're all superfit and they're dancing around and
they're doing that for anhour, and I look at that and I'm
like, oh, my God, that's a lotof work.
Funny you mentioned that,since with the super bowl, with Kendra
Lamar doing it, he doesn'thave a backtrack and so forth.
(13:46):
So he's doing thisspecifically on his own breath.
He's not using the track tofill in the words he not saying and
so forth.
And also he heading out thecuss words and everything as well.
You got to have a sense ofendurance and stamina to even do
that, to be able to say thewords and move like he was moving
and so forth and everything.
It takes some kind ofdiscipline or some type of fitness
(14:09):
regimen to even do stuff like that.
That's for sure.
That is for definite.
Sure.
I know when I'm doing my musicor when I'm doing my writing and
then I go perform it out in public.
Before I was working out, itwas taxing.
Okay.
And I was abusing my body anddoing all the stupid things that
(14:30):
as artists do.
We won't go into that becausestatute of limitations and all that
kind of good stuff.
Oh, man.
Okay.
We ain't got to talk about it,but go ahead.
No, no, we're not going totalk about that today.
But as artists, we do abuseour bodies a lot.
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And I definitely see thebenefit that being one of the benefits
is the endurance, the ability to.
Because all of all artists,doesn't matter what we do.
Dancer, painter, writer,musician, whatever art you're in,
you're doing it with your bodyand if your body's out of whack,
(15:15):
you're not going to be able todo it for that long or that well.
Most definitely.
What are some other benefits?
Working out with a, with atrainer such as yourself for artists,
do you think?
I deliver mine via online.
So with artists, entertainersbeing constantly busy, wherever they
go, I go.
I'm in your back pocket pretty much.
So you definitely gettingsomebody that's.
That knows the grind in asense because like I said fitness
(15:38):
world, being a fitness coachis not too much of a difference in
how we move and how we workand so forth.
So I definitely know the grindand everything as well.
How to be able to crank outmusic and whatever your medium is,
be able to do that at a high level.
I would say I'm able to helpyou out in that way.
(15:58):
Where a lot of people thinkthat when you do fitness and so forth,
you got to be.
It got to automatically be inthe gym.
You got to spend hours andhours in the gym and so forth to
really achieve your set goals.
So it's not really that I'mable to do where if you need the
gym we I can tell you how todo that.
But also if.
If it's a little since let'ssay the person might want to lose
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weight, lose fat and so forth,doesn't want to keep maintain what
they got or something likethat, then it's workout that you
can do it in the comfort ofyour own home.
If you're on on stage and theback backstage or however got workout
where you can get in 10, 20minutes and stuff like that.
A lot of folks don't realizethat a 10 minute, 20 minute workout,
your body again really benefitfrom that and so forth.
(16:43):
So getting that in and stillit ain't taking a lot out your day
or your time for is what, whatwhatever you got going on throughout
that day.
And also having a diet alongwith that as well because artists
lead, they have a very baddiet regimen and so forth.
Yeah.
So parties and constantlyeating food, fast food on the road
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and stuff like this.
I can help them be able toimplement ways that they can make
the food beneficial to themrather than detrimental.
Excellent.
Excellent.
How is your.
How have you evolved in yourapproach from when you first started
training people to today?
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And then I'm also going to askyou on the artist side, how has your
music evolved from when youstarted doing music until today?
Okay.
Starting out with everythingyou don't know what you don't know.
I was When I first got outthere, I wanted to work at a gym.
And at time I'm here inMississippi, in Jackson, Mississippi.
So at the time when I startedin 2013, it wasn't a lot of gyms
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around here.
Still ain't a lot now, butit's more than it was back then.
And I was pushed out there tostart on my own and everything.
They didn't really know whatyou would know, so I didn't really
know my style.
I didn't know the wholestructure for what client I want
to work with and so forth.
And getting them there.
The structure.
I know how to get them there,but to structure it out and getting
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them there, I would say that was.
That's how I was then, but nowI've been doing it almost 12 years
now.
Now I'm more confident andstuff like that.
I got a certain style, way Ido, type of system I train my clients
in and a structure that I havethem go through and everything.
So I know this particularclient, I need to get him here, him
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there, or she needs this.
I can get her in this wayusing this system.
So in every client that I takeon, I don't take them on as a cookie
cutter approach, is more likewhere I meet them where they are
and meet them where they areand then get them to the point where
they want to be and so forth.
Good deal.
Good deal.
And I agree with you, it isdefinitely a.
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You.
You can't do a cookie cutter approach.
Because I know with mytrainer, he's constantly looking
at where I'm at physically metmedically and all that kind of stuff
and adjusting as needed.
Our first session, I'm alittle bit embarrassed to admit this,
but.
So our first session, I juststarted some new medication and I
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didn't tell him about it.
I didn't think to tell himabout it.
And we got 15 minutes into it.
We were just doing somestretches with one of those big balls,
those balance balls and allthat kind of stuff, and we're good
to go.
And then we go downstairs andwe go right to a couple of machines.
And I did one set, one set.
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Not hard weight at all.
Barely any weight at all.
And I passed out.
I hit the deck.
That's our biggest nightmareright there.
But go ahead.
But with that communicationthat we have that we've developed
now, and if I got to go do ablood test, I don't work out with
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him that day.
I let him know, hey, listen, Ihad to give blood here and.
And all that kind of good Stuff.
And.
And the great thing is my condition.
I have hypertension, highblood pressure, which is under control
right now, which is good.
And I also have multiple sclerosis.
Okay.
Which you look at me andyou're like, you've got ms, Tim.
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It's a weird thing.
I'm battling fatigue all the time.
But he has gone and done someresearch into the best ways to train
me.
So that first day passed out.
Haven't passed out yet.
And we start every sessionwith today.
We are not going to pass out.
Okay.
We're not going to pass out.
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So I can definitely assureeverybody that if you get a good
trainer like Trey here,they're going.
They're going to be.
They need to know about your body.
They need to know what's going on.
So you can't do a cookiecutter kind of thing.
And I'm glad you said that.
Yes.
So basically what you'resaying is communication, basically,
that goes a long way because Idon't know what I don't know on everything.
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So in order, I always tell myclients, for me to help you, you
got to communicate with me on everything.
Because I don't know what'sgoing on fully.
Whatever you thinking and thatbe the, like, the biggest part or
barrier that I had to get withclients is the communication part.
Because some of them think,okay, like, I can be on now I can
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ask you, like, how you feelingand did you do this or what do you
think about this and stufflike that.
That's just me guessing andgrasping the.
Just trying to see if something.
Something.
If something tries to comeabout that I need to help you with,
but I don't.
But you know what you needhelp with.
So when I come.
When they come to me andeverything, I have a question or
(21:47):
it's something I like, well,or they did something that they probably
shouldn't been doing and everything.
I said you could have did itthis way.
I said, you just asked me.
Oh, I didn't think I needed toask you.
I thought I was doing like,nah, that's what I'm here for.
You know what I'm saying?
So even if you don't know ifit's a.
If you don't think it'ssomething big or small or you don't
really know, just ask anyway.
(22:09):
Whether you think it is dumbor whatever, just ask me.
In a way we can get through it.
But communication definitelyis key on everything.
And I also work with a clientthat has multiple sclerosis as well,
so I understand what you'resaying with the getting tired and
so forth.
And when we was doing it, Iwas doing it virtually with her.
When we was doing it, we wassometimes do get tired during the
(22:30):
session.
It was like a third, a 30minute session.
So I always constantly beasking, how you feeling?
You all right?
We good?
Yeah, I'm good.
And she'll let me know too.
I'm getting a little tired.
Okay.
Okay.
Then we.
The workout I had planned, I'mgonna cut it down for you so we can
go and get through with it andstuff like that.
So the communication goes along way.
So you don't tell me anything.
I.
I can't train you or coach.
(22:50):
You effectively because if youdon't tell Trey everything, you're
gonna end up like Tim,obviously on the ground and it's
going to be silly.
So we don't want that tohappen to anybody.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I mean, so now on the flipside, let's talk about music.
Okay.
Let's talk about your art.
How has that evolved over the years?
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All right, so I would say itcome up, speed it up.
I'll go back in time, but I'mgonna speed it up to current.
But I started knowing,noticing my.
My skills are being entertained.
My genre is hip hop, by the way.
And I started noticing mywriting skills and stuff like that
very own early in my years.
(23:33):
I.
I wanted to rap and stuff likethat back then, but I didn't really
go through with it.
And I was.
I always wrote poems and stufflike that and little literary works
and stuff like that.
I love stuff like that.
So English was one of myfavorite subjects growing up, but
I didn't ever go through ituntil like I always wanted to do
it.
It's always been the back ofmy mind and it didn't never leave
(23:54):
me.
That kind of stuck with me.
I was even trying to see how Ican interject it with what I'm doing
now.
Hence why I'm doing it, whatI'm doing now.
But.
But back then when I waswriting to like where I was writing,
but I wouldn't write into abeat, so I was already writing in
a poem.
I hear Kendra Lamar was like apoet, poet first and stuff like that.
(24:16):
So I think you hear some ofhis early work.
When I heard it, I was like,ah, yeah, that's it.
Do sound like that.
Okay, so if you ain't writingto a beat and everything like that,
you just put it to a beat.
You can tell it ain't gellingor mission and stuff like that.
So when I was writing, that'show I was writing.
So if you would see my earlyworks, before I was doing it, how
I wrote everything was in thatpoem type of.
(24:38):
It was no car trains oranything like that or whatever.
Breaking in the.
In fours and stuff like that.
But now when I started gettinginto it, and this definitely happened
when it was like in.
During the COVID time.
I think that's when we startedreally like discovering what we can
do and all that stuff like this.
During that I was likeresearching like how to write rhymes
and all that stuff like that.
(24:59):
And they were telling me,telling you, like, you gotta count
the bars in the song when thebeat going on the twos and the fours.
And when I did that, they letyou know how many.
Like how long that verse is,when to start the chords and when
it.
Or the hook or Anyway, even ifit's a bridge in there and so forth.
When I found that structure,when I started writing in that.
Now that's when I startedbreaking it up into fours and everything
(25:22):
like that.
And then you look at some ofthe stuff that I written before,
I even knew that in this timehere, this.
This current time, it's a lot different.
If I try to rap what I didbefore, I knew the new structure
and stuff like that, it don'teven sound the same.
They sound completelydifferent and everything.
So I had to see myself likethose early works, I like, I might
(25:43):
have to go in there andrewrite it so I can.
With the current structurethat I know how to do now and everything
to make it more jail and stufflike that.
Because at the time my ear ishearing it, I heard it.
To me, it sounded like it wasgonna be.
And it was at the time.
But now with the new ears is awhole lot different and so forth.
So I would say in.
In that.
In that manner, I evolved there.
(26:03):
So writing to an actual beatversus how we used to write back
then and everything.
And also to finding beats andeverything, getting it out so forth.
When at the time it took me not.
Not to say time is of course,if you wrote something in 30 minutes
versus a couple hours.
But the whole process offinding a beat and writing, I would
(26:24):
say that has gotten a lotbetter than.
Excuse me over the time and soforth and everything.
So those.
Those few things that I havenoticed, you know, getting used to
my voice, how I'm gonna soundand stuff like that versus what I
was doing when I was recordingmyself and everything earlier.
All those I would say havechanged over time.
Awesome.
And taking care of your voice, too.
(26:44):
Yes.
That's huge.
Because, you know, if you'resitting there, you know, yelling
your head off or drinking alittle too much of something or smoking
too much of something, whichis a thing that I've had to give
up myself.
It can really.
It's an instrument, and theycan really.
You got to really take greatcare of it.
See?
(27:05):
All boys back to fitness.
Yep.
It does.
It does.
Yeah.
So it's better not.
It's better to put that.
That vape down or that.
That cigarette down and go tothe gym and work it out.
I need to learn that lesson.
I need to learn it.
It's all good.
I mean, I know Busta Rhymes.
(27:25):
He was talking about somethinglike that he didn't understand with
Mariah Carey, and she wassupposed to do, like, a song with
him or something like that.
And she was talking about.
She was resting her voice andhe thought she was playing him.
And until.
I don't see how, with all thatstreaming and all that stuff he was
doing back in the day andstuff like that, and he.
Then he went one.
He was.
When he.
Once his voice went out, heunderstood what she was doing and
(27:48):
everything like this.
Think that's a lot.
What.
When it comes to fitness withartists and entertainer, they don't
understand that to do theirjob at a high level, it comes with
them, their body and thembeing in shape and eating a certain
way and living a certain wayto even do that at a high level.
I think they conflate the twoand everything.
They think it's just one thing.
I can't do this without theother, or I can't do this because
(28:11):
of the other and so forth.
If I'm gonna be doing fitness,I don't need to be doing making music.
But they can definitely liveand coincide with each.
Not can they need to be.
You know what I'm saying as well.
Sure.
Now, if you could collaboratewith an artist or an athlete that
was really embodying, youknow, this whole getting your physical
(28:33):
fitness and your inspiration,your art.
Artistic fitness.
Oh, there we go.
I like it.
Artistic fitness.
There we go.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna patent that.
And I'll give you 10%, not a problem.
Okay, I'll give you 20%because you're stronger than I am.
Come on now.
Come on now.
But is there somebody that ifI wave my magic wand and go, all
(28:57):
right, you're gonna work with?
Trey, who's that person gonna be?
Or who would you like it to beof musically either way, musically
or athlete wise.
Oh, my inspiration that got meinto wanting to do it.
I would say Ludacris on everything.
Then I.
As I see him now on everything.
Like I said that that would bea dream interview for my podcast.
But as I see him doing that, he's.
(29:19):
He working out and all thatstuff a lot in the.
In that space.
So I would say that would be atwofer right there because he.
He actually works out and heactually makes music too as well.
The Rock and everything like that.
Because I consider myself abodybuilder and everything like that.
Me and him around the sameheight, about around the same weight
and stuff like that.
So that would be aninteresting person to collab with
(29:39):
and everything in that.
In that way as well and everything.
So I would say those twopeople that right now, if I had to
say, come to mind those twopeople right there.
Awesome.
Ludicrous.
And rock.
Yeah, The Rock.
Yes, sir, the Rock.
Trey is starting a new podcast here.
So I'm just.
If you guys want to get in onthe ground floor and hook it up,
(29:59):
we're going to promote it hereat Create Art Podcast.
But Trey, can you talk alittle bit about the podcast that
you're building right now, asliterally as we're speaking?
Yes, sir.
Name of the podcast is calledScope and Create, and it's basically
where we'll be discussingartists and entertainers and other
(30:19):
creators journeys and theyjourney that process, mindsets and
so forth.
And then also how they areintegrating fitness into all that
as well and to shine it on andoff stage.
And also too, I will also betalking with health and wellness
professionals as well in waysthat they can help artists and entertainers
in that same facet, whether itbe mental health, physical health
(30:43):
and so forth, and thenutrition and stuff like that.
So it definitely where itputting both together, blending artistry
with fitness and in that mindset.
So it'd be where we talkingfitness a little bit, but it's more
so about their artistry, theyjourney and stuff like that as well,
and getting to know thempersonally and everything what they
(31:03):
got going on.
That's exciting to hear.
So folks, you heard it here first.
It's coming out.
We're gonna get ludicrous onthat one.
We're gonna get the Rock.
I would even say LL Cool J.
I mean, it's funny you said that.
Like, I was thinking of allthe people that I could work with
for the show.
Those would be the dreaminterviews and stuff like that.
(31:25):
So yes, LA Cool J was one andit's funny, like I said.
Again, funny you said that.
I was already thinking that.
But my.
So when I really started,like, working out, I was working
out with my dad for the first one.
Like, when I was like, 14, 15.
You used to work out with hima lot.
And got my first gym.
Giving you a little story, buthe got my first gym set when I was,
(31:47):
like, 15 and so forth.
And then later on before,like, a little bit after he got diagnosed
with cancer and so forth, hegot us in the gym membership, and
it started from there and everything.
So he came.
He gave me the tools to startwith, and then I just found my own
lane, found out what my bodyresponded to, and then my own routine
versus what he gave me.
(32:09):
But to say that is.
I had got this LL Cool J book.
LL Cool J had a workout bookin early 2000, and that was one of
the workout books that I hadworked out to and almost hurt my
back, too, trying to notreally know him fully how to work
out back then.
This was before I became afitness coach and stuff like that.
(32:30):
But I had used.
Doing what he was saying in that.
In.
In that workout book.
I had.
I had hurt my back.
Not to say that's on him, butI just was doing too much and didn't
understand it fully.
But that was one of my firstintroductions to, like, in the gym.
Let me get this LL Cool J book.
So, yeah, that would be a goodinterview, I would think.
And all the people that I'mthinking about.
Kevin Hart is another one.
He working out pretty good,but he has his own finger training.
(32:52):
But just to interview him aswell and everything like that.
So those people in a spacethat would definitely embody that
mission and that.
That vision that I see forblending artistry and fitness together.
But he doesn't have Trey yet.
That's the thing.
He doesn't have Trey yet.
I've got Trey on my show.
(33:12):
He needs to be on.
He needs to be on your show, Trey.
All right.
Good deal.
Trey, it's been a privilege tohave you on the show here.
Thank you so much for sharingyour artistry with us, your expertise
with fitness with us and everyone.
You're an artist.
You need to keep your artfitness and your body fitness.
(33:33):
So we're going to put that onthe T shirt, dude.
We're going to make millionsfrom that.
I'm feeling it.
Awesome.
Trey, thank you again so much.
Thank you for having me, man.
All right, again, I want tothank Trey for a wonderful conversation
that we have.
He inspired me to redouble myefforts in my physical fitness to
(33:56):
help with my artistry.
I hope he's done the same for you.
You can definitely reach outto him.
He's got a website, Next World Fitness.com.
check it out for yourself.
And maybe you hire Trey on asa personal trainer.
Just let him know that I sentyou over there.
Okay?
I don't get anything specialfrom it.
I just get the knowledge thatyou are taking care of yourself.
(34:20):
And like, I always end these episodes.
You know, do some art forsomebody you love yourself.
Get your health in line forsomebody you love yourself.
Okay, that's the episode herefor you.
I want to mention a few thingshere as I leave.
One of the ways I get greatguests is through a service called
(34:40):
PodMatch.
I have my affiliate link inthe show note there.
And sometimes I do getcompensation for having guests from
Pod Match on this show.
But I want to tell you that Iwouldn't bring these guests on the
show if I didn't think theyhave something to share with my audience.
So definitely, if you're outthere and you're an artist and thinking,
(35:03):
hey, I want to get on podcast,give Pod Match a look, See?
And if you're a podcaster,Definitely check out PodMatch to
get great guests like I gotwith Trey.
So check it out for yourself.
The next thing I want to talkabout, and this is mainly for the
podcaster that listens to the show.
But if you want an easy way toshare your show, check out Podcast
(35:26):
Beacon.
Again, I have my affiliatelink in the show.
I do get a little bit ofcompensation if you use it.
If you don't want to go thatroute, just go to Podcast Beacon
and check it out for yourself.
What it is you get.
A little wearable wristwatch,doesn't have a clock on it, but what
people can do is they can,instead of handing them a business
(35:46):
card or something like that,they can put their phone over your
wristband and it'll take theirphone right to your website.
So give that a try for yourself.
It's an easy way to share yourpodcast, and my good buddy Matthew
Passey runs it, so I know it'sbeing run correctly.
Last thing I want to talkabout is I do have a business that
(36:09):
I just started up this year in 2025.
Go figure, right?
It's called TKB Podcast Studio.
And what I do there is I helpyou start your podcast.
So if you've been thinkingabout starting a podcast, definitely
go to my website, tkb podcaststudio.com reach out to me.
I want to help you do exactlywhat I do because let me tell you,
(36:32):
podcasting is a lot of fun andwith at TKB Podcast Studio we lead
through all that noise withquiet professionalism.
All right, that's all I havefor you here today.
I want to thank again Trey theFit Artist for joining me on today's
show.
I know you got something outof it.
Feel free to share it with a friend.
(36:52):
It costs you nothing to do that.
And if you'd like to be on theshow, email me.
Timothy createartpodcast.comI'd love to share your story with
everyone else that listens tothis podcast.
Now go out there, tame yourinner critic.
Create more than you consume.
(37:14):
Go hit the gym for even 15 minutes.
Go hit the gym, do somethinggood for yourself and then go create
some art for somebody you love.
Yourself.
I'll talk to you next time.
It.
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