When Virgo season is here we can feel the polarity between the desire for structure, order and refinement, combined with the creative urge to flow wildly with our intuition.
Have you been feeling this?
If exploring how to cultivate the kind of devotion that brings your big creative ideas to life (without getting distracted!) is a conversation you’re intrigued by - then you’ll love this conversation with Rachel Levine of the Intuitively Wild Podcast.
With her Virgo Sun and Moon (and Scorpio Rising) she brings so much wisdom around:
- How to build structure without sacrificing creative inspiration,
- Busting myths around Virgo energy as ONLY structure and organization without the wildly intuitive creative power we all have more access to this time of year,
- The multi-passionate creative urge to have 1000 interests (and wanting to turn them all into work projects) and how to channel the level of devotion that COMPLETES projects,
- How to consistently access our creative wisdom through simple daily rituals of self-connection,
- How to disconnect from digital devices and create space to find answers to our burning questions within.
Plus I share what’s been working for me lately to carve our more consistent time for deep creative work, without feeling constrained, bored or rigid.
These are all major themes as we head towards the end of Virgo season.
The last day of Virgo season is Sept 21, marked by a powerful new moon in Virgo - the second in a row - making it a potent time for renewal and new beginnings around these conversations.
If you’re ready to unleash your creativity, cultivate your next big idea and feel EMPOWERED in your process this Virgo season and the following new moon cycle, you’ll find so many nuggets of wisdom in this conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
What's up.
This is Sarah Mack and welcometo Creative Magic Club.
Together, we'll discoverinspirational stories of
creative entrepreneurs livingout their dreams, doing the work
they are most passionate aboutand building wealth in magical
and fun ways, While building asix-figure income as a writer
and coach, helping other womento launch their dream businesses
.
I've connected with so manyincredible people and seen it
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proven again and again that youcan thrive financially doing
whatever it is you arepassionate about.
I am here to sharelife-changing strategies for
mindset, making money andreaching more people with your
work in a business and lifefilled with creativity, freedom
and fun.
Hi everyone, welcome back tothe Creative Magic Club podcast.
(01:01):
I'm so excited to introduce ourguest today.
We have Rachel Levine, who isan imperfect human committed to
living intuitively wild,following her intuition and
helping others do the same.
She's a yoga therapist, humandesign guide and herbalist, host
of the Intuitively Wild podcastand sub-sec, and she's
currently opening a ceremonialspace, apothecary and studio for
(01:21):
connection in upstate New York.
Hi, Rachel.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Hello Sarah, I'm so excited to be talking to you.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm so excited for this conversation because also
okay, so for those of you whowant to know, rachel is a Virgo
sun and moon and she's a Scorpiorising and we also have the
same human design.
Well, not exactly, we're bothfive one manifesting generators.
Rachel's an emotional authority.
I am a sacral authority, so Ijust did an interview on her
(01:49):
podcast and we were like,definitely getting into some
Virgo vibes.
So I'm excited to hear moreabout that because, obviously,
yeah, you're like a livingembodiment of the power of Virgo
with your herbalism and, yeah,the work that you do with yoga.
So, yeah, why don't you tell ushow you got to doing all of
(02:10):
these magical things?
Like, what's your story?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh, it's a long winding story as speaking to my
manifesting generator-ness, butfor me it really all started
with yoga.
I got into it pretty early onin high school and fell in love
with it and thought it would bemy path for forever.
I thought I was going to be theyogi, go deep in that, and it
(02:36):
really helps me a lot with mymental health journey, the
anxiety I was experiencing, andso I just did all the trainings
I could.
I eventually went back to gradschool for yoga therapy and
really poured myself into that.
And while I was doing that Iwent into treatment for an
(02:57):
eating disorder and within thatfound that I needed to separate
separate myself from the yogaworld a bit in certain
capacities, separate myself fromthe yoga world a bit in certain
capacities.
And then I found herbalism andfound a lot of healing through
that, especially just myconnection to nature and
seasonal living and how that hasbecome such a core part of my
spirituality and that led me tobecoming also a tea ceremony
(03:21):
guide.
I did a apprenticeship with amentor for herbalism in England
and also just found myselftalking about human design all
the time and becoming reallyobsessed with it.
So I decided to study, that andall of these things kind of
compounded on top of each otherand weaved their ways into each
other.
And now I don't and we talkedabout this actually on my
(03:45):
podcast yesterday how I don'tsee myself as a yoga therapist
or as an herbalist.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean I am, I do identify in that way, but
they're just tools I use to helpothers connect to themselves
and help others live intuitivelyand intentionally, and that's
more all encompassing and feelsmore authentic to my work um,
okay, so I want to hear abouthow you deal with being a
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manifesting generator and thecontinual urge to have 5,000
hobbies, because I'm like on thebrink of herbalism right now,
like I've started collectingtincture bottles from ones that
I've bought.
You know, I've got like somebooks in my cart and like I'm
I've sussed out some suppliers,but I'm like, oh Sarah, like do
(04:37):
you really have the time forthis?
You know, or is it gonna be?
I'm just gonna like spend allthis money on things and then
it's gonna like sit on my, it'sgonna take up space that we
don't have in our smallapartment.
It's never good.
The tinctures are never goingto get made, or you know, how do
you deal with that?
I'm also fantasizing about, um,designing and sewing my own
clothes.
Don't even have a sewingmachine.
(04:58):
Like what's that process likefor you and how do you deal with
that?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, I think.
I think a couple of things comeup for me, and I think it's
different for everyone.
Part of it is being anemotional authority.
I really have to sit and waitand process and see what feels
good over time and you, being asacred authority, can just be
like okay, in this moment, thisis what I'm excited about.
But for me, I always have totake that pause and process, and
so that can help me sortthrough things.
(05:28):
And the other piece that reallycomes into play is my vergoness.
I'm able to be very discerningand be like no, I get that that
sounds fun and exciting forright now, but what is my big
picture?
What truly feels like, what Ineed to devote myself to and I'm
so devoted to my work right nowand what I want to bring to the
world to and I'm so devoted tomy work right now and what I
want to bring to the world.
(05:48):
So focusing on the ways that Ican hone in on those aspects
feels most important to me, andother things will spark my
interest here and there and likeof course, I'll let myself
follow that and go down thatrabbit hole, but for what I'm
really pouring myself into, Ifeel very focused and the
discernment piece is very.
It does come naturally to me.
The Virgo in me can be reallyfocused in that way.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love that and I definitely find that
it's helpful when I'm reallyimmersed in projects and that
those like periphery,distractionary ideas will tend
to like fade into the background.
So I, yeah, I like that.
I think that is the answerwhere it's like, really, the
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more you pour yourself into yourtrue priorities, the less those
distractionary things tend totake hold.
But I will say that I thinkthere's you can go too far in
that direction in my experiencewhere it's like if I don't have
some places to let off steam andto just play and to create and
to do it in a very unstructured,like goal oriented way, then
(07:01):
those, those priorities that I'mdevoted to, will tend to get a
little bit stagnant or I tend tolike grasp at them or like get
a little bit too controlling.
Do you have like other hobbiesthat are kind of like serve that
function for you?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, well, I will say that that is very true for
me as well.
I am a very structured,scheduled person and I actually
have to schedule into myschedule unstructured time and
be like, especially right nowthis day for me is Sundays Like
I try to have as minimal plans,as little structure.
I just wake up and see what I'mfeeling, see what I feel pulled
towards, what my energy iscalling me to, and allow that
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empty space and for me to justkind of like flow within that.
So that feels so important tome and hobbies outside.
I mean, really maybe it's justalso because of where I'm at
with my work right now, Like I'mon, I'm working on opening the
physical space and it'shappening very soon, so I'm
really just so like that'staking up so much of my time and
(08:05):
energy and I'm so excited aboutit, so I want to be doing that.
So a lot of my extra free playtime is also playing with
interior design for that andplaying with different ideas for
the offerings and in, but doingit in a way that feels fun,
Like I also have times when thatfeels more structured and more
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work mode and then times whenthat is just like Pinterest
boarding and goal, like dreamvisioning or whatever you know.
It's like much more fluid, butit all does seem to tie its way
back to my work in some wayshape or form right now,
Although I do like I do alsolove hiking and just being in
nature and traveling, but Iguess I don't know those also
(08:48):
feel connected to my because itall comes out in my writing.
It's like I'm always thinkingabout what I'm writing.
I don't know so I guess I dohave other things, but it all
feels so intertwined.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So, yeah, I fully feel that, um, I fully feel that
so hard and I think, and I, Istruggle with that boundary
sometimes too, like I definitelyhave to do that for myself.
Or it's like some weekends are ahard boundary for me, um,
especially Sundays, yeah, I likeI like to have no plan, um,
that works really well.
Like, also, with evenings, Itend to have a pretty good
(09:20):
cutoff and, like I don't workafter a certain time because if,
if I start to break thatboundary, that's when it, yeah,
it's like I start to overextendmyself.
Um, but yeah, I can reallyoscillate between trying to be
super structured and optimizedand focused, and then I can't
(09:41):
sometimes resist being in thatkind of like creative play in my
work, because I'm like, oh no,like I want to do something
that's completely unrelated tomy work, but then I I have to
resist the urge to turn thatinto a project.
You know, like I just startedpainting again, I was like I
want to start a paintingbusiness.
What is it?
It's just, I guess it's theentrepreneurial, it's the
(10:02):
creative entrepreneurial genethat, just like, sees the
potential in everything andwants to create so many things.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm feeling that so hard right now, yeah, no, I feel
that and I, because I'm verystrict with my morning ritual,
like I don't touch my phonefirst thing in the morning.
I journal, I meditate, I walkTheo outside, my dog, and I am
(10:32):
like my mornings are soimportant to me and so sacred to
me.
And same with my evenings.
Like after 8.30 PM my phonegoes away.
I'm reading my book, we'rewinding down and that's so
important to me.
But even in my morning ritualsI'm reading my book, we're
winding down and that's soimportant to me.
But even in my morning ritualsI'm like writing down ideas that
I have for things to create.
And so it's, I think and I youknow you can tell me if this
(11:02):
feels true for you but we'reboth creative people and so, no
matter what we're doing, likeideas are coming and we're when
we're playing and connecting tothat in our part of ourselves,
that's when the creativity cancome out even more and it's just
natural for us to want to pourthat into our work and what
we're, how we're impacting theworld.
So, yeah, it's, it's, it's allthat like that's why it's so
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intertwined.
Like I don't feel like my work,like I can separate my work
life from my personal life,because it all just is who I am.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I totally feel that.
So tell me about your podcast,because what I, what really like
stands out about your brand is,um, I don't know, like, first
of all, I think the title isreally powerful, intuitively
wild, like you know, I think.
I think our titles can do somuch for us in that way, when we
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like, really choose those wordswith intention.
Like wild is such a keyword forme.
That is something that I justembody and that really
encapsulates the way that I dothings and the way that I want
to live in, the way that I dobusiness and the way that I
create and I make so manyconnections with people through
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their podcast titles.
Like I'm like, if I resonatewith your title and it's it's a
good title, then, like I knowwe're going to collaborate and
it's going to be a goodexperience, you know, and it's a
good title, then, like I knowwe're gonna collaborate and it's
gonna be a good experience, youknow.
So it's like testament to thepower of titles and I feel like,
yeah, like your brand and youraesthetic, even like how you
carry yourself, your voice andyour tone, just it gives like an
instant.
(12:36):
It really encapsulates thatvibe.
So talk to me about, like howmuch of that was just an
intuitive process, how much ofthat was a kind of like
intentionally curated processfor you?
I'm very curious about the yeah, how you birthed that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, well, the names I mean it definitely has all
been intuitively led, andintuition and intention are like
my core pillars, Like that'show I live my life.
Intention are like my corepillars, like that's how I live
my life.
And the if we're talkingspecifically about the title, so
that name, intuitively Wildcame to me before I even thought
about starting a podcast,before I even started about
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thought about sharing much ofanything.
I just knew I wanted to startputting bits and pieces of
myself online.
I had completely been offsocial media for a very long
time and that really served me,but it also was a way to kind of
hide myself and stay veryprivate.
(13:34):
And so I was creating this blogand making this decision to
start sharing some of mywritings and, uh, I came up with
this name and it really justcame to me, like I don't
remember how it came to me, butwhat I will say is that before I
was living in Hawaii and thisis when I went off all social
media and was kind of off thegrid I was living in Hawaii and
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I walked barefoot a lot, andwhen I was, I had this dream one
time of getting in trouble forwalking barefoot and I on my
foot, I had the tattoo stay wild, and so when I got back to the
States although I had to stopwalking barefoot as much, I did
get the tattoo stay wild, andfor me that symbolizes staying
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connected to who I truly am andkeeping that inner guidance
that's moving me forward and notletting anyone tell me to
conform or shrink or be someonethat I'm not.
So the word wild has alwaysbeen really powerful and
important to me and I that's.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's part of where it came from you know, it's kind
of cool thinking about how youhave really strong Virgo energy
with your sun and your moon andyour Mercury in Virgo, and it's
like, you know, because Virgo isreally known for structure and
(15:03):
organization and analysis, butit also represents, like that,
earth energy, and so it's kindof cool to think about the
juxtaposition of those two ideas.
And because, obviously,intuitively, wild is like that,
(15:25):
our intuition is wild, right,like we don't associate our
intuition with something that'slike logical or ordered or, um,
predictable, even like it's.
We consider it as the oppositeof all of those things, um, but
nature is wild and we are nature.
So I'm curious, like, how doyou, um, how did those two
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energies play out for you likethat?
You know you've talked a lotabout being very structured, um,
and like being organized andbeing process oriented.
So how do you navigate thoseparts of yourself with the parts
that just want to be wild andlike have no, you know, have no
walls.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, again, so many things.
I can say this I've beenthinking about this a lot, as we
are in Virgo season right nowand I feel like a lot of people
have misconceptions about whatVirgo energy is and the totality
of who she is, because reallyshe is a mutable sign, like,
even though she's verystructured and action-oriented
(16:33):
and tangible, earthy grounded,she's mutable, she's always
changing, she's going with theflow and she, like she, is this
transition because we're also, Ifeel like Virgo is we're not
really in summer anymore, butwe're not in fall, and she's
kind of this just like liminalspace and doing it all.
(16:56):
Yeah, you know, everything thatshe does is also like service
led, heart led, and so I feellike Virgo is more intuitive and
flowy than people give hercredit for, and the way she's
able to be that way is becauseshe's so grounded.
Like you can't be fully, fully,safely intuitive and connected
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to that flowing energy if youdon't have the structures in
place.
It's like I like to think of ariver you know you have the
river bank and that structureand then, once that's in place,
the river, the water can justflow freely, and if that
structure is not in place aroundit, it's just a puddle, it's
just a flood, and so Virgo hasboth.
She has the structure in place,set, and she makes sure that it
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is looking good, and then shehas that ability to flow freely.
So I really find that thatbalance comes quite naturally to
me.
Sometimes, in certain areas ofmy life, I can be too rigid and
controlling, but that comes upwhen I'm too tapped into this
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unhealthy side of me, like whencertain past traumas or you know
other things are coming intoplay or my anxiety is really
rearing its head.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's when I lean in too much to the rigidity and
that's when I know, okay, Ireally need to lean into my
rituals that that allow me tofind that safety again yeah,
that particular lesson ishitting me so hard right now and
I feel like I'm I'm likegraduating to the next level of
my Virgo rising and reallyunderstanding that of like, yeah
(18:41):
, for me it's, you know, andespecially as a manifesting
generator too, where, and as asacral authority where it's like
I have to be excited to flowinto something like what's
working well for me is havingthose clear boundaries, and
right now what's working is likeokay, from nine till 12, that's
(19:04):
my time, that's my creativetime to work on my top
priorities.
I know what my top prioritiesare that I want to make progress
on during that time, but onceI'm within that, I let myself
create however I want to createand really really like focus on
whatever area of those projectsis most lighting me up and I
feel like that's such a bigbreakthrough for me and
(19:25):
obviously I've succeeded at thisin different ways but like that
specific understanding ofhaving the container and being
quite rigid about that andreally you know, yeah, like the
power of having a hard boundaryof like what needs to happen
outside of that in order tosuccessfully and consistently
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uphold that.
Like you know what needs tohappen the night before, what
conversations need to be had,what technology needs to be put
in a drawer, like all of thesesmall things that set me up for
success with that container.
And then, once I'm in there,yeah, it's like getting in there
is the hard part, but once II'm in there, it's so fun and I
can just play and that's wheremy creativity really gets to be
unleashed and I get to go wildand, you know, the magic happens
(20:08):
.
So, yeah, that's really workingfor me right now.
I'm curious what is like thenext frontier that your
intuition is nudging you towards?
That feels maybe a littleuncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Nudging you towards that feels maybe a little
uncomfortable.
Oh, I think right now I ammaking peace with the
uncertainty.
Trust has been my word of theyear, and especially as I'm
opening this physical space formy business and really
transitioning my whole businessmodel in a lot of ways to in
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person and being in this spacethere I have no idea what I'm
doing.
It's I'm really making it up asI go and there's been so many
unknowns, so much out of mycontrol.
I think letting go of control,that's that's my thing right now
and allowing myself to moveforward with confidence, even
though I can't see the wholeplan and I can only see two
(21:04):
steps in front of me.
And that practice of trust andconfidence has really been
testing me.
And I've learned recently thatthe etymology of the word
confidence comes from trust,like the Latin word, it's like
in trust, and so I keepreminding myself if I trust
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myself, I can be confident inmyself.
If I trust my path, I can beconfident in my path.
So, really focusing on trust,path, trust, confidence, letting
go of control, allowing for theuncertainty and just allowing
for that empty space and beingin that stillness and that pause
(21:45):
, and something that you weresaying brought something up for
me, because I used to find it sodifficult to be in that
creative container that I wouldset for myself.
I would have this structure andthe schedule planned to create,
and then I would get there andbe in that empty space that I
(22:07):
had set the container for, andbe like this is so uncomfortable
.
I need to be doing things thatare more productive, I need to
be filling the empty space, andI had to learn to sit, and
that's when I could start, letthe creative ideas flow and
that's really when my writingstarted to come out, and so this
feels like the next evolutionof that, like allowing myself to
(22:27):
sit in that empty space and letit all unfold for me, unfold
for me from there.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, so good.
And are there any other liketools or practices that you have
that support you to shift intotrust and confidence, like
consistently and especially whenthose moments where it feels
challenging to you?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
oh, absolutely for me , because I think the trust is
built off of a sense ofgroundedness and safety.
Rituals to ground and allow meto find that sense of safety
have been really important.
So for me that's going outside,barefoot on the earth and
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taking some deep breaths.
I try to be outside as much aspossible.
Every morning I'm meditating,I'm doing my pranayama, my
breath work and I'm meditating,I'm doing my pranayama, my
breath work and I'm journaling,and those have been really key
rituals for me.
Also, tea ceremony is somethingthat I've really incorporated
into my life this past year andI'm now a tea ceremony guide and
(23:36):
that's going to be a bigoffering at the space and I'm so
passionate about it and it'sbeen a really grounding ritual
for me as well.
So those are some of my coreones.
Also, ritualizing transition.
So if there is a really crazyday and I'm feeling really
unsteady and unstable, I willjust, from one meeting to the
(23:57):
next, light a candle or from onemeeting to the next, take a
couple deep breaths.
From my work day to my evening,I'll play specific music to try
to signify that this transitionis happening and bring myself
back into my body.
So really finding littlemoments to weave in these
rituals that signal to my bodyokay, we can ground, we can
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breathe, we can be with allthat's happening here got some
virgo magic right there.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Thank you so much for sharing those so good.
And, um, yeah, will you letpeople know, like, what have you
got going on?
Where can they find you?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
yeah, so right now, the core of my heart is being
poured into opening this space.
It's's a ceremonial space,apothecary and studio for
connection, so I will be hostingceremonies that incorporate
yoga, therapy, herbalism, humandesign, tea ceremony, journaling
, community connection, all thethings and that is in upstate
(24:56):
New York, in High Falls, whichis in the Hudson Valley, so
hopefully opening in a couplemonths.
I will keep you attuned to that, but you can also find me on my
sub stack, which is reallywhere I'm focusing a lot right
now my podcast and my Instagram,all under Intuitively Wild, and
updates about the space will bethere and you can sign up for
(25:19):
the waitlist at the link in mybio and that will give you all
the first dibs on discounts andoffers and schedules and the new
website coming and all thethings happening.
So that's me.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Amazing.
And yeah, if you haven't beento the Hudson Valley in upstate
New York, like go.
Actually you know what I feel.
Like Virgo season is like theprime season to go to hudson
valley, when all the, the Iguess the leaves change a little
later over there.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, I would say scorpio had virgo to scorpio
season, which you know my twoseasons.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Those are good times to come no, it's so incredibly
beautiful, like just themountains and the valley and the
lakes and the waterfalls.
It's such a magical place.
I lived there for a little bitand just yeah, had such a great
time exploring and hiking andit's super, super magic.
So, yeah, I'm super excited foryou and sending you vibes for
your new space and everyone gobook a train or a plane or
(26:16):
whatever it is you have to taketo go and get some Virgo magic
and get grounded and do somerituals, which, yeah, has never
been more important now thanever, and I second everything
you said.
It's like scheduling in thosethings that just kind of get us
off screens and back into ourbodies, because when we do that,
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we're present for the magic andfor our intuition and for our
creativity, which is alwaysleading us to things that you
know, solutions that we're justnever going to get as quickly
online or through chat, gpt orwherever else we're trying to
solve our problems.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Exactly, disconnect to reconnect is what I always
say like disconnect from thescreens, from the external noise
and stimulation.
Always say like disconnect fromthe screens, from the external
noise and stimulation, and thatwill allow you to reconnect to
yourself and your intuition andwhat is truly your path, because
it won't look like anyoneelse's.
So we have to start tuning intothat.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I love that.
Thank you so much, rachel, andplease share this episode with
anybody who you know would loveit and make sure you come back
and join us next week.
Thank you so much for listening.
Bye.
What's up.
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Hi everyone, welcome back tothe Creative Magic Club podcast.
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I'm so excited to introduce ourguest today.
We have Rachel Levine, who isan imperfect human committed to
living intuitively wild,following her intuition and
helping others do the same.
She's a yoga therapist, humandesign guide and herbalist, host
of the Intuitively Wild podcastand sub-sec, and she's
currently opening a ceremonialspace, apothecary and studio for
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connection in upstate New York.
Hi, Rachel.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Hello Sarah, I'm so excited to be talking to you.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm so excited for this conversation because also
okay, so for those of you whowant to know, rachel is a Virgo
sun and moon and she's a Scorpiorising and we also have the
same human design.
Well, not exactly, we're bothfive one manifesting generators.
Rachel's an emotional authority.
I am a sacral authority, so Ijust did an interview on her
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podcast and we were like,definitely getting into some
Virgo vibes.
So I'm excited to hear moreabout that because, obviously,
yeah, you're like a livingembodiment of the power of Virgo
with your herbalism and, yeah,the work that you do with yoga.
So, yeah, why don't you tell ushow you got to doing all of
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these magical things?
Like, what's your story?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh, it's a long winding story as speaking to my
manifesting generator-ness, butfor me it really all started
with yoga.
I got into it pretty early onin high school and fell in love
with it and thought it would bemy path for forever.
I thought I was going to be theyogi, go deep in that, and it
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really helps me a lot with mymental health journey, the
anxiety I was experiencing, andso I just did all the trainings
I could.
I eventually went back to gradschool for yoga therapy and
really poured myself into that.
And while I was doing that Iwent into treatment for an
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eating disorder and within thatfound that I needed to separate
separate myself from the yogaworld a bit in certain
capacities, separate myself fromthe yoga world a bit in certain
capacities.
And then I found herbalism andfound a lot of healing through
that, especially just myconnection to nature and
seasonal living and how that hasbecome such a core part of my
spirituality and that led me tobecoming also a tea ceremony
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guide.
I did a apprenticeship with amentor for herbalism in England
and also just found myselftalking about human design all
the time and becoming reallyobsessed with it.
So I decided to study, that andall of these things kind of
compounded on top of each otherand weaved their ways into each
other.
And now I don't and we talkedabout this actually on my
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podcast yesterday how I don'tsee myself as a yoga therapist
or as an herbalist.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean I am, I do identify in that way, but
they're just tools I use to helpothers connect to themselves
and help others live intuitivelyand intentionally, and that's
more all encompassing and feelsmore authentic to my work um,
okay, so I want to hear abouthow you deal with being a
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manifesting generator and thecontinual urge to have 5,000
hobbies, because I'm like on thebrink of herbalism right now,
like I've started collectingtincture bottles from ones that
I've bought.
You know, I've got like somebooks in my cart and like I'm
I've sussed out some suppliers,but I'm like, oh Sarah, like do
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you really have the time forthis?
You know, or is it gonna be?
I'm just gonna like spend allthis money on things and then
it's gonna like sit on my, it'sgonna take up space that we
don't have in our smallapartment.
It's never good.
The tinctures are never goingto get made, or you know, how do
you deal with that?
I'm also fantasizing about, um,designing and sewing my own
clothes.
Don't even have a sewingmachine.
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Like what's that process likefor you and how do you deal with
that?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, I think.
I think a couple of things comeup for me, and I think it's
different for everyone.
Part of it is being anemotional authority.
I really have to sit and waitand process and see what feels
good over time and you, being asacred authority, can just be
like okay, in this moment, thisis what I'm excited about.
But for me, I always have totake that pause and process, and
so that can help me sortthrough things.
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And the other piece that reallycomes into play is my vergoness.
I'm able to be very discerningand be like no, I get that that
sounds fun and exciting forright now, but what is my big
picture?
What truly feels like, what Ineed to devote myself to and I'm
so devoted to my work right nowand what I want to bring to the
world to and I'm so devoted tomy work right now and what I
want to bring to the world.
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So focusing on the ways that Ican hone in on those aspects
feels most important to me, andother things will spark my
interest here and there and likeof course, I'll let myself
follow that and go down thatrabbit hole, but for what I'm
really pouring myself into, Ifeel very focused and the
discernment piece is very.
It does come naturally to me.
The Virgo in me can be reallyfocused in that way.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love that and I definitely find that
it's helpful when I'm reallyimmersed in projects and that
those like periphery,distractionary ideas will tend
to like fade into the background.
So I, yeah, I like that.
I think that is the answerwhere it's like, really, the
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more you pour yourself into yourtrue priorities, the less those
distractionary things tend totake hold.
But I will say that I thinkthere's you can go too far in
that direction in my experiencewhere it's like if I don't have
some places to let off steam andto just play and to create and
to do it in a very unstructured,like goal oriented way, then
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those, those priorities that I'mdevoted to, will tend to get a
little bit stagnant or I tend tolike grasp at them or like get
a little bit too controlling.
Do you have like other hobbiesthat are kind of like serve that
function for you?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, well, I will say that that is very true for
me as well.
I am a very structured,scheduled person and I actually
have to schedule into myschedule unstructured time and
be like, especially right nowthis day for me is Sundays Like
I try to have as minimal plans,as little structure.
I just wake up and see what I'mfeeling, see what I feel pulled
towards, what my energy iscalling me to, and allow that
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empty space and for me to justkind of like flow within that.
So that feels so important tome and hobbies outside.
I mean, really maybe it's justalso because of where I'm at
with my work right now, Like I'mon, I'm working on opening the
physical space and it'shappening very soon, so I'm
really just so like that'staking up so much of my time and
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energy and I'm so excited aboutit, so I want to be doing that.
So a lot of my extra free playtime is also playing with
interior design for that andplaying with different ideas for
the offerings and in, but doingit in a way that feels fun,
Like I also have times when thatfeels more structured and more
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work mode and then times whenthat is just like Pinterest
boarding and goal, like dreamvisioning or whatever you know.
It's like much more fluid, butit all does seem to tie its way
back to my work in some wayshape or form right now,
Although I do like I do alsolove hiking and just being in
nature and traveling, but Iguess I don't know those also
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feel connected to my because itall comes out in my writing.
It's like I'm always thinkingabout what I'm writing.
I don't know so I guess I dohave other things, but it all
feels so intertwined.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So, yeah, I fully feel that, um, I fully feel that
so hard and I think, and I, Istruggle with that boundary
sometimes too, like I definitelyhave to do that for myself.
Or it's like some weekends are ahard boundary for me, um,
especially Sundays, yeah, I likeI like to have no plan, um,
that works really well.
Like, also, with evenings, Itend to have a pretty good
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cutoff and, like I don't workafter a certain time because if,
if I start to break thatboundary, that's when it, yeah,
it's like I start to overextendmyself.
Um, but yeah, I can reallyoscillate between trying to be
super structured and optimizedand focused, and then I can't
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sometimes resist being in thatkind of like creative play in my
work, because I'm like, oh no,like I want to do something
that's completely unrelated tomy work, but then I I have to
resist the urge to turn thatinto a project.
You know, like I just startedpainting again, I was like I
want to start a paintingbusiness.
What is it?
It's just, I guess it's theentrepreneurial, it's the
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creative entrepreneurial genethat, just like, sees the
potential in everything andwants to create so many things.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm feeling that so hard right now, yeah, no, I feel
that and I, because I'm verystrict with my morning ritual,
like I don't touch my phonefirst thing in the morning.
I journal, I meditate, I walkTheo outside, my dog, and I am
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like my mornings are soimportant to me and so sacred to
me.
And same with my evenings.
Like after 8.30 PM my phonegoes away.
I'm reading my book, we'rewinding down and that's so
important to me.
But even in my morning ritualsI'm reading my book, we're
winding down and that's soimportant to me.
But even in my morning ritualsI'm like writing down ideas that
I have for things to create.
And so it's, I think and I youknow you can tell me if this
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feels true for you but we'reboth creative people and so, no
matter what we're doing, likeideas are coming and we're when
we're playing and connecting tothat in our part of ourselves,
that's when the creativity cancome out even more and it's just
natural for us to want to pourthat into our work and what
we're, how we're impacting theworld.
So, yeah, it's, it's, it's allthat like that's why it's so
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intertwined.
Like I don't feel like my work,like I can separate my work
life from my personal life,because it all just is who I am.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I totally feel that.
So tell me about your podcast,because what I, what really like
stands out about your brand is,um, I don't know, like, first
of all, I think the title isreally powerful, intuitively
wild, like you know, I think.
I think our titles can do somuch for us in that way, when we
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like, really choose those wordswith intention.
Like wild is such a keyword forme.
That is something that I justembody and that really
encapsulates the way that I dothings and the way that I want
to live in, the way that I dobusiness and the way that I
create and I make so manyconnections with people through
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their podcast titles.
Like I'm like, if I resonatewith your title and it's it's a
good title, then, like I knowwe're going to collaborate and
it's going to be a goodexperience, you know, and it's a
good title, then, like I knowwe're gonna collaborate and it's
gonna be a good experience, youknow.
So it's like testament to thepower of titles and I feel like,
yeah, like your brand and youraesthetic, even like how you
carry yourself, your voice andyour tone, just it gives like an
instant.
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It really encapsulates thatvibe.
So talk to me about, like howmuch of that was just an
intuitive process, how much ofthat was a kind of like
intentionally curated processfor you?
I'm very curious about the yeah, how you birthed that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, well, the names I mean it definitely has all
been intuitively led, andintuition and intention are like
my core pillars, Like that'show I live my life.
Intention are like my corepillars, like that's how I live
my life.
And the if we're talkingspecifically about the title, so
that name, intuitively Wildcame to me before I even thought
about starting a podcast,before I even started about
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thought about sharing much ofanything.
I just knew I wanted to startputting bits and pieces of
myself online.
I had completely been offsocial media for a very long
time and that really served me,but it also was a way to kind of
hide myself and stay veryprivate.
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And so I was creating this blogand making this decision to
start sharing some of mywritings and, uh, I came up with
this name and it really justcame to me, like I don't
remember how it came to me, butwhat I will say is that before I
was living in Hawaii and thisis when I went off all social
media and was kind of off thegrid I was living in Hawaii and
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I walked barefoot a lot, andwhen I was, I had this dream one
time of getting in trouble forwalking barefoot and I on my
foot, I had the tattoo stay wild, and so when I got back to the
States although I had to stopwalking barefoot as much, I did
get the tattoo stay wild, andfor me that symbolizes staying
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connected to who I truly am andkeeping that inner guidance
that's moving me forward and notletting anyone tell me to
conform or shrink or be someonethat I'm not.
So the word wild has alwaysbeen really powerful and
important to me and I that's.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's part of where it came from you know, it's kind
of cool thinking about how youhave really strong Virgo energy
with your sun and your moon andyour Mercury in Virgo, and it's
like, you know, because Virgo isreally known for structure and
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organization and analysis, butit also represents, like that,
earth energy, and so it's kindof cool to think about the
juxtaposition of those two ideas.
And because, obviously,intuitively, wild is like that,
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our intuition is wild, right,like we don't associate our
intuition with something that'slike logical or ordered or, um,
predictable, even like it's.
We consider it as the oppositeof all of those things, um, but
nature is wild and we are nature.
So I'm curious, like, how doyou, um, how did those two
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energies play out for you likethat?
You know you've talked a lotabout being very structured, um,
and like being organized andbeing process oriented.
So how do you navigate thoseparts of yourself with the parts
that just want to be wild andlike have no, you know, have no
walls.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, again, so many things.
I can say this I've beenthinking about this a lot, as we
are in Virgo season right nowand I feel like a lot of people
have misconceptions about whatVirgo energy is and the totality
of who she is, because reallyshe is a mutable sign, like,
even though she's verystructured and action-oriented
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and tangible, earthy grounded,she's mutable, she's always
changing, she's going with theflow and she, like she, is this
transition because we're also, Ifeel like Virgo is we're not
really in summer anymore, butwe're not in fall, and she's
kind of this just like liminalspace and doing it all.
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Yeah, you know, everything thatshe does is also like service
led, heart led, and so I feellike Virgo is more intuitive and
flowy than people give hercredit for, and the way she's
able to be that way is becauseshe's so grounded.
Like you can't be fully, fully,safely intuitive and connected
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to that flowing energy if youdon't have the structures in
place.
It's like I like to think of ariver you know you have the
river bank and that structureand then, once that's in place,
the river, the water can justflow freely, and if that
structure is not in place aroundit, it's just a puddle, it's
just a flood, and so Virgo hasboth.
She has the structure in place,set, and she makes sure that it
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is looking good, and then shehas that ability to flow freely.
So I really find that thatbalance comes quite naturally to
me.
Sometimes, in certain areas ofmy life, I can be too rigid and
controlling, but that comes upwhen I'm too tapped into this
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unhealthy side of me, like whencertain past traumas or you know
other things are coming intoplay or my anxiety is really
rearing its head.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's when I lean in too much to the rigidity and
that's when I know, okay, Ireally need to lean into my
rituals that that allow me tofind that safety again yeah,
that particular lesson ishitting me so hard right now and
I feel like I'm I'm likegraduating to the next level of
my Virgo rising and reallyunderstanding that of like, yeah
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, for me it's, you know, andespecially as a manifesting
generator too, where, and as asacral authority where it's like
I have to be excited to flowinto something like what's
working well for me is havingthose clear boundaries, and
right now what's working is likeokay, from nine till 12, that's
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my time, that's my creativetime to work on my top
priorities.
I know what my top prioritiesare that I want to make progress
on during that time, but onceI'm within that, I let myself
create however I want to createand really really like focus on
whatever area of those projectsis most lighting me up and I
feel like that's such a bigbreakthrough for me and
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obviously I've succeeded at thisin different ways but like that
specific understanding ofhaving the container and being
quite rigid about that andreally you know, yeah, like the
power of having a hard boundaryof like what needs to happen
outside of that in order tosuccessfully and consistently
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uphold that.
Like you know what needs tohappen the night before, what
conversations need to be had,what technology needs to be put
in a drawer, like all of thesesmall things that set me up for
success with that container.
And then, once I'm in there,yeah, it's like getting in there
is the hard part, but once II'm in there, it's so fun and I
can just play and that's wheremy creativity really gets to be
unleashed and I get to go wildand, you know, the magic happens
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.
So, yeah, that's really workingfor me right now.
I'm curious what is like thenext frontier that your
intuition is nudging you towards?
That feels maybe a littleuncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Nudging you towards that feels maybe a little
uncomfortable.
Oh, I think right now I ammaking peace with the
uncertainty.
Trust has been my word of theyear, and especially as I'm
opening this physical space formy business and really
transitioning my whole businessmodel in a lot of ways to in
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person and being in this spacethere I have no idea what I'm
doing.
It's I'm really making it up asI go and there's been so many
unknowns, so much out of mycontrol.
I think letting go of control,that's that's my thing right now
and allowing myself to moveforward with confidence, even
though I can't see the wholeplan and I can only see two
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steps in front of me.
And that practice of trust andconfidence has really been
testing me.
And I've learned recently thatthe etymology of the word
confidence comes from trust,like the Latin word, it's like
in trust, and so I keepreminding myself if I trust
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myself, I can be confident inmyself.
If I trust my path, I can beconfident in my path.
So, really focusing on trust,path, trust, confidence, letting
go of control, allowing for theuncertainty and just allowing
for that empty space and beingin that stillness and that pause
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, and something that you weresaying brought something up for
me, because I used to find it sodifficult to be in that
creative container that I wouldset for myself.
I would have this structure andthe schedule planned to create,
and then I would get there andbe in that empty space that I
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had set the container for, andbe like this is so uncomfortable
.
I need to be doing things thatare more productive, I need to
be filling the empty space, andI had to learn to sit, and
that's when I could start, letthe creative ideas flow and
that's really when my writingstarted to come out, and so this
feels like the next evolutionof that, like allowing myself to
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sit in that empty space and letit all unfold for me, unfold
for me from there.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, so good.
And are there any other liketools or practices that you have
that support you to shift intotrust and confidence, like
consistently and especially whenthose moments where it feels
challenging to you?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
oh, absolutely for me , because I think the trust is
built off of a sense ofgroundedness and safety.
Rituals to ground and allow meto find that sense of safety
have been really important.
So for me that's going outside,barefoot on the earth and
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taking some deep breaths.
I try to be outside as much aspossible.
Every morning I'm meditating,I'm doing my pranayama, my
breath work and I'm meditating,I'm doing my pranayama, my
breath work and I'm journaling,and those have been really key
rituals for me.
Also, tea ceremony is somethingthat I've really incorporated
into my life this past year andI'm now a tea ceremony guide and
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that's going to be a bigoffering at the space and I'm so
passionate about it and it'sbeen a really grounding ritual
for me as well.
So those are some of my coreones.
Also, ritualizing transition.
So if there is a really crazyday and I'm feeling really
unsteady and unstable, I willjust, from one meeting to the
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next, light a candle or from onemeeting to the next, take a
couple deep breaths.
From my work day to my evening,I'll play specific music to try
to signify that this transitionis happening and bring myself
back into my body.
So really finding littlemoments to weave in these
rituals that signal to my bodyokay, we can ground, we can
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breathe, we can be with allthat's happening here got some
virgo magic right there.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Thank you so much for sharing those so good.
And, um, yeah, will you letpeople know, like, what have you
got going on?
Where can they find you?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
yeah, so right now, the core of my heart is being
poured into opening this space.
It's's a ceremonial space,apothecary and studio for
connection, so I will be hostingceremonies that incorporate
yoga, therapy, herbalism, humandesign, tea ceremony, journaling
, community connection, all thethings and that is in upstate
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New York, in High Falls, whichis in the Hudson Valley, so
hopefully opening in a couplemonths.
I will keep you attuned to that, but you can also find me on my
sub stack, which is reallywhere I'm focusing a lot right
now my podcast and my Instagram,all under Intuitively Wild, and
updates about the space will bethere and you can sign up for
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the waitlist at the link in mybio and that will give you all
the first dibs on discounts andoffers and schedules and the new
website coming and all thethings happening.
So that's me.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Amazing.
And yeah, if you haven't beento the Hudson Valley in upstate
New York, like go.
Actually you know what I feel.
Like Virgo season is like theprime season to go to hudson
valley, when all the, the Iguess the leaves change a little
later over there.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, I would say scorpio had virgo to scorpio
season, which you know my twoseasons.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Those are good times to come no, it's so incredibly
beautiful, like just themountains and the valley and the
lakes and the waterfalls.
It's such a magical place.
I lived there for a little bitand just yeah, had such a great
time exploring and hiking andit's super, super magic.
So, yeah, I'm super excited foryou and sending you vibes for
your new space and everyone gobook a train or a plane or
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whatever it is you have to taketo go and get some Virgo magic
and get grounded and do somerituals, which, yeah, has never
been more important now thanever, and I second everything
you said.
It's like scheduling in thosethings that just kind of get us
off screens and back into ourbodies, because when we do that,
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we're present for the magic andfor our intuition and for our
creativity, which is alwaysleading us to things that you
know, solutions that we're justnever going to get as quickly
online or through chat, gpt orwherever else we're trying to
solve our problems.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Exactly, disconnect to reconnect is what I always
say like disconnect from thescreens, from the external noise
and stimulation.
Always say like disconnect fromthe screens, from the external
noise and stimulation, and thatwill allow you to reconnect to
yourself and your intuition andwhat is truly your path, because
it won't look like anyoneelse's.
So we have to start tuning intothat.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I love that.
Thank you so much, rachel, andplease share this episode with
anybody who you know would loveit and make sure you come back
and join us next week.
Thank you so much for listening.
Bye.
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