March 24, 2025 • 32 mins
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When houses pop up "like popcorn" and traffic backs up for miles, you know you're living through North Texas's unprecedented growth spurt. This candid conversation with Abigail, editor-in-chief of the Post Signal, explores the dramatic transformation reshaping communities like Pilot Point, Aubrey, Providence Village, and Crossroads.
Fire stations and emergency services facilities are springing up across the region, struggling to keep pace with residential development. The new Pilot Point station near Moberly Farms will feature both fire and police services to serve thousands of new homes. Meanwhile, Aubrey is opening multiple stations in the Silverado and Wind Ridge developments. These first responder hubs represent the constant race to provide essential services in rapidly expanding communities.
Traffic congestion emerges as perhaps the most immediate challenge for residents. The Liberty Road and Highway 377 intersection has become a notorious bottleneck, with wait times sometimes reaching 30 minutes. Fish Trap Road and Oak Grove Lane present similar challenges, forcing residents to "strategically plan trips around traffic." The $650 million Trip 22 bond promises relief through road widening and infrastructure improvements, but completion timelines stretch years into the future.
Beyond the immediate growing pains, Abigail offers fascinating insights into how recent state legislation has fundamentally changed how cities manage growth. From annexation restrictions to building material regulations, Austin's decisions are reshaping local development patterns in ways that will impact communities for generations.
For listeners wanting to connect with their rapidly changing community, Abigail highlights upcoming events like the Fruit Jar Junction Farmer's Market in Aubrey, the Pilot Point Farmer's Market, and the Aubrey Education Foundation Gala. She also shares how the Post Signal is evolving with a new website and multimedia expansion plans to better serve this dynamic region.
Join us for this revealing look at how explosive growth is transforming North Texas, creating both challenges and opportunities for residents navigating this remarkable period of change.
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Good morning Cross Roads.
On the show today I have a veryspecial guest.
You all know her as theeditor-in-chief of the Post
Signal up in Pilot Point.
We're going to call Abigailright now and welcome her to
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Cross Roads Podcast.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (01:37):
Hey Stephen.
Steven Killfoil (01:38):
Hey Abigail, Welcome to Cross Roads Podcast.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (01:44):
Thank you.
I'm excited to be here,appreciate you oh you bet this
is great.
Steven Killfoil (01:49):
I, I, I love messing around with new
technology and, uh, I'm pickingyou up beautifully, so perfect,
this is awesome thank you.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (01:59):
Thank you for accommodating me on this
.
I appreciate it oh, heck fire.
Steven Killfoil (02:03):
No problem for you, I'd been the world okay,
well yeah, you bet.
So I went over and, uh, I tookout the things that we agreed
upon and added a few that we candefinitely discuss on the show
today.
So what one of those things uhis?
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I believe I think it's thepilot point fire department.
They have a stationgroundbreaking that's scheduled
for july this year.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (02:36):
Yeah, could you tell us a little bit
about that sure that'll be forthe new station that is being
constructed right next toMoberly Farms and the Creekview
Meadows estate area.
That development corridor isgoing to have thousands of homes
right there and so having thatnew station in that eastern
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portion of Pilot Point is goingto reduce response times for the
department and help make it sothat that portion of the city of
Pilot Point is able to have theservices it needs readily
available.
So that was funded, I believe,through a joint partnership
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between the city and the countyand then also the developers out
there.
Um, so there was a tersagreement that was in place, um,
which is a tax incrementreinvestment zone, and um that
money from both the city andcounty and that development are
uh getting go through and fundthe construction of that project
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, um, if I remember correctly,oh, that's great.
Steven Killfoil (03:46):
Yeah, I love the men and women that get into
firefighting and paramedic.
It's just.
It's really a lot of peopledon't understand what all goes
into their jobs.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (04:04):
It's pretty amazing, absolutely and
then that that that station toois going to also be a bit more
like the dps model, where therewill also be the ability for
some of the police departmentstaff members to have offices
over there, um, so they can alsobe able to respond quickly and
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have a kind of a place wherethey can come back after their
shifts to to fill outinformation, that sort of thing
as well.
So it'll help on that um sideof the first responders, uh, who
are serving that area as wellthat's really good for pilot
point.
Steven Killfoil (04:40):
I mean it's nice having those uh stations
strategically located.
We have one up here in our neckof the woods just down the road
.
Um, from Cross Roads off of 720that's going up, the Little Elm
Fire Department's putting inone and it's just like that.
It's going to be a jointstation with both police and
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firefighters.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (05:04):
Yeah, aubrey has a couple in the works
right now as well.
It has one that's over in theSilverado development, just off
of FM 2931.
And I think it's frontier asthe cross street at 2931 there,
and then that one will beopening pretty soon.
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Actually I think it's last Iheard it was set for april, um,
but I'd have to double checkthat, um.
But.
And then there's an additionalone that's being constructed in
the wind ridge development,which is also part of the city
of aubrey.
Um, then that's, they're in theprocess of constructing that
one as well, but I don't thinkthat that one will be open until
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later this year.
I think if I remember correctlyon that one, it was around
August that they were estimating.
But with any constructionproject it also depends on the
weather cooperating if there endup being supply chain issues
that can delay their openings aswell.
So that's just one of those funthings to get to keep tracking
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on all these constructionprojects, whether it's municipal
or residential or commercial,in the area oh, I know, it's
like.
Steven Killfoil (06:16):
These houses just keep popping up like
popcorn.
It's amazing.
I just uh, we, we just had adeal where we had to run down to
Little Elm City Hall.
There was a developer.
He wanted to squeeze 50 morehouses in between an existing
HOA that I live in, HillstonePoint, and these little
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townhouses that they built OakGrove Lane, and a whole bunch of
us residents.
We went up there and said noway, this is crazy.
The traffic already is heavy onOak Grove Lane and you slap
another 50 houses in there.
You're going to bring in atleast 110 plus cars and we
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already have enough as it is,because yeah, it's definitely
yeah a challenge.
Yeah, do you have challengesgetting in and out of Providence
Village yourself?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (07:14):
I do.
Hopefully one of those will be,uh, rectified pretty soon.
Uh, liberty road and 377 isalways a fun intersection.
Um, if anyone out there islistening and they tend to take
a left out of Liberty beforethat light goes in place there
please consider turning right,going north on 377 and taking
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Stewart Road to do a little bitof a U-turn.
That would be great.
A U-turn, that would be great.
But yes, that one can alwaysadd a little bit of fun into my
commute between ProvidenceVillage and any of the
communities that are north of me, because you never know if it's
going to be five seconds or 30minutes to sit there and wait.
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So it's definitely interesting.
Steven Killfoil (08:02):
Yeah, it's real fun navigating that, especially
in certain times of the day,even at night.
Gosh, I've come back from thecoffee house on a Tuesday and
when I'm coming down I see thatroad at Liberty and there's just
lights all the way back as faras you can see of people trying
to get onto 377 from there.
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So, yeah, putting a trafficlight up there on Liberty is
definitely a must.
I don't know how that's goingto work when they expand 377 to
the six lanes that they'retalking about.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (08:42):
Yeah, it will be interesting and there's
some.
There have been some debatesabout whether people should,
whether texas should, wait toput in lights until the
expansion projects happen, but Ithink that our infrastructure
issues, with being able to getfrom place to place, kind of
outweigh that.
And also making sure that thoseintersections are as safe as
possible.
Just because you put in a lightdoesn't mean there will never
be accidents, clearly, but um it, you know, should help rectify
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that situation as much aspossible.
I mean, when they put in thelight at a fish trap in 424,
that was a great um improvementin our area to help make sure
that people could move throughthat intersection more safely.
So I feel like the light atLiberty would help do that as
well.
Just give some of those peoplewho do need to head south from
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Liberty Road on 377 thatprotection they need to do so
safely and to be able tonavigate that quickly.
And the same type of thinghappened too when they opened
the lights at uh sherman roadand um or sherman drive, I think
technically and uh 377 yeah,when did they put that in?
Steven Killfoil (09:49):
because I I was going down one day, it there
wasn't one there, and then a fewweeks later, oh, there's a
light here.
Wow, wow, where'd that comefrom?
Yeah?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (10:00):
I believe it was in January.
I could look back.
It may have been earlier thanthat, but it's been relatively
recently.
Actually, I think it wasearlier than that I have to look
back at when I put that in thepaper.
Steven Killfoil (10:16):
Yeah, I mean I hadn't seen one there and then
all of a sudden poof, it wasthere.
I was like wow, they're poppingup lights, just like houses.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (10:26):
I will say as an Aubrey ISD parent I
definitely appreciated TechStopputting that light in.
I appreciated the city ofAubrey working with them to get
that light in place.
When I go through and drop mydaughter off at the middle
school and then head to 377 tohead north to pilot point for
work, it's it's definitelyappreciated to have that be a
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protected turn as opposed totrying to play frogger
essentially with the trafficyeah, and fish trap.
Steven Killfoil (10:56):
Oh my goodness.
They I don't know why peoplethink that they can I don't know
out-navigate the highway ifthey cut through fish trap to
Main Street and then get back on380.
They'd be better off just tostay on the highway and go
because they're creating such areally bad backup.
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I've I've had traffic backed upfrom Oak Grove lane all the way
up to the park and you're justcrawling into.
I can't even get into myneighborhood or out of my
neighborhood at times during theday I have to strategically
plan my trips around the trafficstrategically plan my trips
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around the traffic.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (11:44):
Yeah, I understand I same thing.
When I'm coming back from youknow, from crossroads whether I
went to the store in crossroadsor um, I'm coming back from you
know, say, denton I, there arecertain times a day that I just
will not touch a shop for thatreason the big part of the
problem is that obviously theseexpansion projects have been
happening, these developmentprojects have been happening.
And one of the problem is thatobviously these expansion
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projects have been happening,these development projects have
been happening and one of thebiggest infrastructure deficits
in our area is that we don'thave a lot of east-west
corridors.
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Staff, whether it's county orcity level, are looking at and
trying to work through on how tobe able to have more options
for east-west traffic.
But when you just have so manypeople who are largely just
trying to get home in that timeframe in that window, there's
only so much capacity on any ofour roads for us to be able to
get where we need to be, and soI think that that's really going
to be crucial, as they keepmaking improvements um to these
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roadways, for us to be able tobe able to go safely, but from
place to place.
But it's definitely a lot of uh, growing pains in the meantime,
um, when you have to navigatethe, when you have to navigate
the traffic, you have tonavigate the construction, and
it's a challenge that I wishthat we could have gone in a
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time machine back and before allof the developments were
approved, be able to say, okay,this infrastructure is needed
because you know exactly what'scoming.
But the challenge is thatthere's no accurate crystal ball
on exactly when growth willhappen, and so it always ends up
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being a trying to catch up game, and it's really hard to catch
up when you have exponentialgrowth.
Steven Killfoil (13:37):
Oh, I know, I know really hard to catch up
when you have exponential growth.
Oh, I know, I know.
When I had CommissionerWilliams on the podcast, he was
telling me that there is a planwith the Denton County on
widening Fish Trap Road, but hedidn't know exactly when that
date will put the hammer down onit because there were so many
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other projects involved in thearea that have to be completed
first.
But at some point in time, from380 where it starts, they're
going to widen it to four lanesall the way to main street.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (14:12):
So that'll be nice when that,
whenever that happens yeah, thatwas one of the projects that
they funded with the Trip 22bond that the voters passed in
November of 2022.
It was a $650 million bond andit does definitely have a lot of
different projects.
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Some of those are county only,some of them are the county
having the funding to be able towork on expansion projects
around tech projects, and thensome of it is so that the county
can partner with cities andtowns in our area and beyond
throughout Denton County to beable to have those
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infrastructure improvementshappen.
Steven Killfoil (14:56):
Yeah, I know it'll be interesting once
they've completed that up andover at 380 and 720, I think.
Uh, because they're going tohave to straighten out um oak
grove lane and widen itobviously or it'll be all messed
up.
But once that is done I think alot of our heavy traffic
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problems coming in fromProvidence Village going towards
380 down Oak Grove Lane andfolks shooting in over from down
from Aubrey and even fromDenton going down Fishtrap, I
think that artery will be moresmoothly ran once they get it
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all fixed and put into place.
In fact they may not even needto worry about it too much
because once that up and over isrunning, traffic will be back
to normal, hopefully.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (15:52):
Well, I don't know, with the amount of
growth, I think we're stillgoing to have traffic issues,
but I think it will be heavilyrelieved at that point.
Yeah, so you kind of like whenthe expansion project happened
on 720, that made it so thatthose lanes are, you know, there
are just more.
There are more options forpeople to be able to get through
and to be able to move fromplace to place.
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I think that's definitely goingto improve it.
But you still have a lot of moreresidential projects that are
on the way, so it's going to beinteresting to see how well the
improvements can improve it.
Steven Killfoil (16:30):
You know, it just really blows my mind.
I see on the news, you know,you see all these ISDs going, oh
, we're going to have to closethis school down.
I'm going good Lord, you guysare closing schools down, ours
are busting out at the seams andwe're having to build them.
Finally they started working onour Crossroads High School.
So because I think Braswell isjust about ready to explode,
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it's just well, wayoverpopulated, just yeah, well,
way over over, uh, populated.
So you know, by the time theyget this one built, chances are
it's going to already be up toits maximum capacity, almost
immediate.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (17:07):
So yeah, yeah, school construction is
definitely a challenge because,like you said, once it's built
it's necessary and fills up veryquickly.
It happened too with, like,fuller Elementary filled up very
quickly when Aubrey ISD builtthat and then they now have West
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Elementary they've also opened.
But it's kind of that balancinggame as well.
Is in a fast growth area.
You are going to end up havingthe tax revenue that comes in to
be able to build the schoolsand fill them.
A lot of the school districtswhere they have kind of static
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growth or they've built out andthey don't really have a lot
more children who are coming tothe districts to grow the
population.
That's where you end up runninginto issues.
Where you might have to closeschool district or close school
campuses is because if you don'thave more enrollment numbers
driving up the funding thatyou've received, then things
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stay very static and it's harderto keep campuses open in that
situation.
Steven Killfoil (18:16):
Right, I know up in Pilot Point you guys have
a lot of development going on,that's for sure.
Are you aware of any projectsthat are going to be started or
maybe even completed this year?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (18:31):
I'd have to check in on what might be
completed this year.
I know that one of the onesthat is kicking off right now is
the Bryson Ranch development inthe works going on off of FM
1385.
So that's in that kind of samearea as Mulberry Farms and
Creekview Meadows.
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So that's that's Definitelygoing to add a lot more
congestion in that area as wellwhich FM 1385 is another one of
those ones that is also going tobe expanded Right Hopefully
near future that they're workingon that one.
I want to lift it up there.
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They're let date, so when theywould try to even get firm
numbers on how much it's goingto cost and get someone on board
to commit to that project, willbe July 2026.
Steven Killfoil (19:23):
Mm hmm so.
Well yeah, hey.
In your opinion, how have someof the legislation from Austin
affected how our little townsaround here in this area operate
in regards to all these housesjust suddenly sprouting up
everywhere?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (19:42):
it's been interesting to watch over
the last few years.
Uh, when I came on to the postsignal staff in 2017, the first
meeting I covered was when thetown of providence village had
uh development agreements andannexation agreements in place,
or they were putting them inplace.
To respond to the Senate Bill 6that came out that year that
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said that cities and largercounties had to have voter
approval for annexations, and sothat limited or got rid of
forced annexation in Texas andthat made it so that cities, if
they didn't already have anagreement in place, would not
necessarily be able to annex inproperties, which I'm not going
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to get into whether that is orisn't the right approach, but it
did make it so that cities haveless options on what they can
do if there's a piece ofproperty that has been in their
extraterritorial jurisdictionfor a while.
It kind of now is dependentmore on voluntary annexations
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that are coming in.
Yeah, and then, 2019, there wasa House bill in 2439 that made
it so that cities are notallowed to put stricter
standards in place for buildingmaterials than the national
codes.
So that's what makes it so thatyou can put up an aluminum
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siding building in an area thatis close to residential that you
would have previously wanted torequire masonry on that sort of
a thing, and so that's whatkind of has prompted a lot of
movement from cities over tousing planned developments,
because they have a few moretools that allow them to have
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some more restrictiverequirements in place for the
look of the buildings that aregoing in.
But that was definitelyinteresting to see the challenge
.
I think there was something in2021 that also affected it, but
I couldn't remember what thatone was.
In 2023, though, there wasSenate Bill 2038 that made it so
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it's easier for property ownersto dis-index from the city's
ETJ, which is that extraterritorial jurisdiction, which
just means that something that,for years, the city has been
kind of looking at planning forits expansion and growth, at
planning for its expansion andgrowth.
Now that map can change, and ifthat map changes, that means
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that cities don't get to have asay in what the subdivision
looks like if it's developed outthere.
If they just annex from the ETJ,they might still be responsible
for first responders coming outto that area.
But it's kind of an interestingagreement at that point because
they're not in the ETJ butthey're still in the service
area.
What does that agreement looklike for payment for those
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things?
And it also can make it so thatif a municipality has a
municipal development districtthat allows them to get sales
tax dollars from the ETJ area,if someone disannexes and then
say, a commercial developmentgoes in there, you wouldn't get
any sales tax revenue from thatdevelopment into the city
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anymore.
So it's just one of thosethings that kind of affects the
way that I mean back years agoof the things that kind of
affects the way that I mean backyears ago there were a lot of
kind of just disagreementsbetween the cities in this area
between Pilot Point, salina andAubrey about who could plan to
claim certain areas as their ETJand it actually went into the
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court system for a decision.
So all of that money that wasspent back then to determine
what territory they should belooking at and planning to grow
into potentially means that thatwas wasted.
If now those areas can say youknow what, never mind, we don't
want to be even in your ETJ, noteven in the city.
So it can be an interestingchallenge for the cities that
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way too.
Yeah, there's also some thingsthat seem to be on the horizon
that may pass this legislativesession, that could increase
housing density, and so that'ssomething that I'll be watching
for as we go into thislegislative session watching for
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as we go into this legislativesession.
Steven Killfoil (24:22):
Well, Abigail, I'll tell you what we love the
Post Signal newspaper.
And what plans do you have forthe Post Signal?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (24:36):
So we have been working.
We've recently upgraded ourwebsite to make it a lot more
user-friendly.
So that's at postsignal.
com, and it's a little somethingmore that people are used to.
One of the next things that wewant to do is to find new and
innovative ways to connect withour new residents, who want to
know what's going on in theircommunities, want to be able to
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be tied in, to know what thedecisions are being made to
affect them.
Um, so that's one of the thingson their horizon.
Um is trying to find those waysto connect with those new
readers and then, um, we'rewe're hoping to try to influence
more multimedia uh aspects toour storytelling as well in the
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future with the new website.
So that could look likeeventually having a podcast
ourselves.
That could look like includingmore video work.
So those are all things that weare considering and looking at
trying to expand how we reachthe audience that needs to know
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what's happening here and stayinformed about what decisions
and events are affecting theirlives.
Steven Killfoil (25:48):
Yep, that is great.
I mean I think your newspaperit covers very well our whole
entire corridor and I alwayslook forward to getting each
edition, seeing how the kiddosare doing in high school and the
athletics and the sports.
I can't wait till CrossroadsHigh School gets into that.
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I love high school sports and Iwas in athletics when I was in
high school, so you guys coverit really well.
I'm very pleased.
I mean it's amazing, but hey,the theater's putting on that dr
seuss play going on.
Did your two little angels geta chance to be in the cast on
this one?
Abigail Thatcher (26:31):
unfortunately they're not in the cast on this
one.
They have a lot of friends whoare for this one but, um,
they're pretty involved withsome school sports and and
school activities and uh aaysasoccer at the moment, so that's
keeping them from uh being inthis one, but hopefully we'll
get to go to watch it.
Steven Killfoil (26:50):
So yeah, I've seen some of the clips.
It looks pretty good.
I think I might get up therefor that one.
Abigail Thatcher All (26:57):
Definitely the Garage Door Theater does an
incredible job and it's such agreat resource to have that
civic theater here in PilotPoint and um it, it draws in
people from all over.
I mean I know you've gotten tobe in plays together and I live
in Providence Village.
You live in Crossroads Um, soit's not just for Pilot Point,
but it definitely is a greatdraw that Pilot Point has there.
Steven Killfoil (27:21):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Well, hey, you're part of theRotary Club right up in Pilot
Point, yeah, so how wouldsomebody get involved with the
club?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (27:32):
Sure, if you want to be involved with
the Lake Ray Roberts Rotary Club, the best way to start is to
come attend our meetings.
We meet at the Point BankCommunity Center at noon every
Tuesday, so it's open forvisitors to come in and see what
we're about and get to hearfrom our speakers or participate
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in service projects, if that'swhat we're working on that time.
So, yeah, we would love to haveanyone who's interested in
helping promote and support andserve the community to come out
and be a part of this.
Steven Killfoil (28:08):
That sounds neat.
So anybody out there that youwant to get involved in the
Rotary Club show up at that.
Now the bank is it the one inAubrey?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (28:18):
The branch in Aubrey, no, it's in
Pilot, point Okay, the branch inPilot.
Steven Killfoil (28:20):
Point.
Yeah, make sure you drive up toPilot Point and go to the Point
Bank there to get into thatmeeting.
Yeah, absolutely.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (28:28):
Yeah, it's the community center.
That's just between the bankbuilding itself and Liberty
Street, up here in off of 377.
Steven Killfoil (28:37):
Awesome.
Well, are there any otherevents in our area coming around
the corner in April that youknow of?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (28:44):
Uh, April is going to be pretty busy
.
We're going to have I have thefirst um fruit, I think it's
fruit jar junction uh, farmer'smarket and uh, that's going to
be let me double check on timingon that one that first one will
be April 5th.
So that's going to be a let medouble check on timing on that
one that first one will be April5th.
So that's going to be afarmer's market in downtown
Aubrey.
I mean, it's going to befarmer's market kind of kicked
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off for a lot of the area here.
Toward the end of the month andinto next month, there'll be
Easter events happening in allof our communities.
Yeah, there's a lot that'sgoing on.
Speaking of events, right nowmy main sports reporter is
covering the Bassmaster Classic,if you're in Pilot Point, so
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that's been a lot of fun for himto get to interact with those
anglers and get to see what'sgoing on on our lake right now.
Steven Killfoil (29:40):
Oh yeah, definitely.
So what time is that farmer'smarket?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (29:47):
The farmer's market for Georgia
Junction says it will be from 8am to noon.
Steven Killfoil (29:53):
Okay, I'll have to get up there and check that
out.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (29:58):
And the Pilot Point will have its
farmers market kicking off atthe end of the month in April.
Steven Killfoil (30:03):
Okay, at the end of the last Saturday.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (30:07):
Yes, yeah, it's definitely everything
.
All the events, keep us hopping, that's for sure.
Steven Killfoil (30:13):
Oh yeah.
Well, it'd be boring if wedidn't.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (30:18):
That's true, and let me I need to put
in a plug for a second too,about the Aubrey Education
Foundation.
They have their upcoming galahappening on April 5th, so as
far as I know, there's stilltickets available Last I checked
.
So that would be a greatopportunity.
If people want to have a funevening, that would be a great
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opportunity.
If people want to have a funevening, then that's a chance to
get to support the schooldistrict and get to have some
fun.
It's going to be hosted at theLone Star Lodge and Marina up in
Pilot Point, which is alsodefinitely worth checking out,
especially at sunset.
If you haven't been there forsunset, you definitely should.
Steven Killfoil (30:59):
All right, all right, pretty gorgeous, well,
hey, thanks for coming on theshow today, Abigail.
I appreciate it, and it's beenfun doing it over the phone, I
appreciate you too.
Thanks for asking me you betwell, you have a lovely day and
I'll see you around.
Thanks, you bet.
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Bye, bye.
Well, for more fun, guests thatare coming to the show next
week.
Stay tuned in each and everyMonday for new episodes on Cross
Roads Podcast.
Until next week, I'll see youat the top.
Good morning Cross Roads.
On the show today I have a veryspecial guest.
You all know her as theeditor-in-chief of the Post
Signal up in Pilot Point.
We're going to call Abigailright now and welcome her to
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Cross Roads Podcast.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (01:37):
Hey Stephen.
Steven Killfoil (01:38):
Hey Abigail, Welcome to Cross Roads Podcast.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (01:44):
Thank you.
I'm excited to be here,appreciate you oh you bet this
is great.
Steven Killfoil (01:49):
I, I, I love messing around with new
technology and, uh, I'm pickingyou up beautifully, so perfect,
this is awesome thank you.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (01:59):
Thank you for accommodating me on this
.
I appreciate it oh, heck fire.
Steven Killfoil (02:03):
No problem for you, I'd been the world okay,
well yeah, you bet.
So I went over and, uh, I tookout the things that we agreed
upon and added a few that we candefinitely discuss on the show
today.
So what one of those things uhis?
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I believe I think it's thepilot point fire department.
They have a stationgroundbreaking that's scheduled
for july this year.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (02:36):
Yeah, could you tell us a little bit
about that sure that'll be forthe new station that is being
constructed right next toMoberly Farms and the Creekview
Meadows estate area.
That development corridor isgoing to have thousands of homes
right there and so having thatnew station in that eastern
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portion of Pilot Point is goingto reduce response times for the
department and help make it sothat that portion of the city of
Pilot Point is able to have theservices it needs readily
available.
So that was funded, I believe,through a joint partnership
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between the city and the countyand then also the developers out
there.
Um, so there was a tersagreement that was in place, um,
which is a tax incrementreinvestment zone, and um that
money from both the city andcounty and that development are
uh getting go through and fundthe construction of that project
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, um, if I remember correctly,oh, that's great.
Steven Killfoil (03:46):
Yeah, I love the men and women that get into
firefighting and paramedic.
It's just.
It's really a lot of peopledon't understand what all goes
into their jobs.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (04:04):
It's pretty amazing, absolutely and
then that that that station toois going to also be a bit more
like the dps model, where therewill also be the ability for
some of the police departmentstaff members to have offices
over there, um, so they can alsobe able to respond quickly and
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have a kind of a place wherethey can come back after their
shifts to to fill outinformation, that sort of thing
as well.
So it'll help on that um sideof the first responders, uh, who
are serving that area as wellthat's really good for pilot
point.
Steven Killfoil (04:40):
I mean it's nice having those uh stations
strategically located.
We have one up here in our neckof the woods just down the road
.
Um, from Cross Roads off of 720that's going up, the Little Elm
Fire Department's putting inone and it's just like that.
It's going to be a jointstation with both police and
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firefighters.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (05:04):
Yeah, aubrey has a couple in the works
right now as well.
It has one that's over in theSilverado development, just off
of FM 2931.
And I think it's frontier asthe cross street at 2931 there,
and then that one will beopening pretty soon.
(05:26):
Actually I think it's last Iheard it was set for april, um,
but I'd have to double checkthat, um.
But.
And then there's an additionalone that's being constructed in
the wind ridge development,which is also part of the city
of aubrey.
Um, then that's, they're in theprocess of constructing that
one as well, but I don't thinkthat that one will be open until
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later this year.
I think if I remember correctlyon that one, it was around
August that they were estimating.
But with any constructionproject it also depends on the
weather cooperating if there endup being supply chain issues
that can delay their openings aswell.
So that's just one of those funthings to get to keep tracking
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on all these constructionprojects, whether it's municipal
or residential or commercial,in the area oh, I know, it's
like.
Steven Killfoil (06:16):
These houses just keep popping up like
popcorn.
It's amazing.
I just uh, we, we just had adeal where we had to run down to
Little Elm City Hall.
There was a developer.
He wanted to squeeze 50 morehouses in between an existing
HOA that I live in, HillstonePoint, and these little
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townhouses that they built OakGrove Lane, and a whole bunch of
us residents.
We went up there and said noway, this is crazy.
The traffic already is heavy onOak Grove Lane and you slap
another 50 houses in there.
You're going to bring in atleast 110 plus cars and we
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already have enough as it is,because yeah, it's definitely
yeah a challenge.
Yeah, do you have challengesgetting in and out of Providence
Village yourself?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (07:14):
I do.
Hopefully one of those will be,uh, rectified pretty soon.
Uh, liberty road and 377 isalways a fun intersection.
Um, if anyone out there islistening and they tend to take
a left out of Liberty beforethat light goes in place there
please consider turning right,going north on 377 and taking
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Stewart Road to do a little bitof a U-turn.
That would be great.
A U-turn, that would be great.
But yes, that one can alwaysadd a little bit of fun into my
commute between ProvidenceVillage and any of the
communities that are north of me, because you never know if it's
going to be five seconds or 30minutes to sit there and wait.
(07:59):
So it's definitely interesting.
Steven Killfoil (08:02):
Yeah, it's real fun navigating that, especially
in certain times of the day,even at night.
Gosh, I've come back from thecoffee house on a Tuesday and
when I'm coming down I see thatroad at Liberty and there's just
lights all the way back as faras you can see of people trying
to get onto 377 from there.
(08:25):
So, yeah, putting a trafficlight up there on Liberty is
definitely a must.
I don't know how that's goingto work when they expand 377 to
the six lanes that they'retalking about.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (08:42):
Yeah, it will be interesting and there's
some.
There have been some debatesabout whether people should,
whether texas should, wait toput in lights until the
expansion projects happen, but Ithink that our infrastructure
issues, with being able to getfrom place to place, kind of
outweigh that.
And also making sure that thoseintersections are as safe as
possible.
Just because you put in a lightdoesn't mean there will never
be accidents, clearly, but um it, you know, should help rectify
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that situation as much aspossible.
I mean, when they put in thelight at a fish trap in 424,
that was a great um improvementin our area to help make sure
that people could move throughthat intersection more safely.
So I feel like the light atLiberty would help do that as
well.
Just give some of those peoplewho do need to head south from
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Liberty Road on 377 thatprotection they need to do so
safely and to be able tonavigate that quickly.
And the same type of thinghappened too when they opened
the lights at uh sherman roadand um or sherman drive, I think
technically and uh 377 yeah,when did they put that in?
Steven Killfoil (09:49):
because I I was going down one day, it there
wasn't one there, and then a fewweeks later, oh, there's a
light here.
Wow, wow, where'd that comefrom?
Yeah?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (10:00):
I believe it was in January.
I could look back.
It may have been earlier thanthat, but it's been relatively
recently.
Actually, I think it wasearlier than that I have to look
back at when I put that in thepaper.
Steven Killfoil (10:16):
Yeah, I mean I hadn't seen one there and then
all of a sudden poof, it wasthere.
I was like wow, they're poppingup lights, just like houses.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (10:26):
I will say as an Aubrey ISD parent I
definitely appreciated TechStopputting that light in.
I appreciated the city ofAubrey working with them to get
that light in place.
When I go through and drop mydaughter off at the middle
school and then head to 377 tohead north to pilot point for
work, it's it's definitelyappreciated to have that be a
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protected turn as opposed totrying to play frogger
essentially with the trafficyeah, and fish trap.
Steven Killfoil (10:56):
Oh my goodness.
They I don't know why peoplethink that they can I don't know
out-navigate the highway ifthey cut through fish trap to
Main Street and then get back on380.
They'd be better off just tostay on the highway and go
because they're creating such areally bad backup.
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I've I've had traffic backed upfrom Oak Grove lane all the way
up to the park and you're justcrawling into.
I can't even get into myneighborhood or out of my
neighborhood at times during theday I have to strategically
plan my trips around the trafficstrategically plan my trips
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around the traffic.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (11:44):
Yeah, I understand I same thing.
When I'm coming back from youknow, from crossroads whether I
went to the store in crossroadsor um, I'm coming back from you
know, say, denton I, there arecertain times a day that I just
will not touch a shop for thatreason the big part of the
problem is that obviously theseexpansion projects have been
happening, these developmentprojects have been happening.
And one of the problem is thatobviously these expansion
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projects have been happening,these development projects have
been happening and one of thebiggest infrastructure deficits
in our area is that we don'thave a lot of east-west
corridors.
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Staff, whether it's county orcity level, are looking at and
trying to work through on how tobe able to have more options
for east-west traffic.
But when you just have so manypeople who are largely just
trying to get home in that timeframe in that window, there's
only so much capacity on any ofour roads for us to be able to
get where we need to be, and soI think that that's really going
to be crucial, as they keepmaking improvements um to these
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roadways, for us to be able tobe able to go safely, but from
place to place.
But it's definitely a lot of uh, growing pains in the meantime,
um, when you have to navigatethe, when you have to navigate
the traffic, you have tonavigate the construction, and
it's a challenge that I wishthat we could have gone in a
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time machine back and before allof the developments were
approved, be able to say, okay,this infrastructure is needed
because you know exactly what'scoming.
But the challenge is thatthere's no accurate crystal ball
on exactly when growth willhappen, and so it always ends up
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being a trying to catch up game, and it's really hard to catch
up when you have exponentialgrowth.
Steven Killfoil (13:37):
Oh, I know, I know really hard to catch up
when you have exponential growth.
Oh, I know, I know.
When I had CommissionerWilliams on the podcast, he was
telling me that there is a planwith the Denton County on
widening Fish Trap Road, but hedidn't know exactly when that
date will put the hammer down onit because there were so many
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other projects involved in thearea that have to be completed
first.
But at some point in time, from380 where it starts, they're
going to widen it to four lanesall the way to main street.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (14:12):
So that'll be nice when that,
whenever that happens yeah, thatwas one of the projects that
they funded with the Trip 22bond that the voters passed in
November of 2022.
It was a $650 million bond andit does definitely have a lot of
different projects.
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Some of those are county only,some of them are the county
having the funding to be able towork on expansion projects
around tech projects, and thensome of it is so that the county
can partner with cities andtowns in our area and beyond
throughout Denton County to beable to have those
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infrastructure improvementshappen.
Steven Killfoil (14:56):
Yeah, I know it'll be interesting once
they've completed that up andover at 380 and 720, I think.
Uh, because they're going tohave to straighten out um oak
grove lane and widen itobviously or it'll be all messed
up.
But once that is done I think alot of our heavy traffic
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problems coming in fromProvidence Village going towards
380 down Oak Grove Lane andfolks shooting in over from down
from Aubrey and even fromDenton going down Fishtrap, I
think that artery will be moresmoothly ran once they get it
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all fixed and put into place.
In fact they may not even needto worry about it too much
because once that up and over isrunning, traffic will be back
to normal, hopefully.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (15:52):
Well, I don't know, with the amount of
growth, I think we're stillgoing to have traffic issues,
but I think it will be heavilyrelieved at that point.
Yeah, so you kind of like whenthe expansion project happened
on 720, that made it so thatthose lanes are, you know, there
are just more.
There are more options forpeople to be able to get through
and to be able to move fromplace to place.
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I think that's definitely goingto improve it.
But you still have a lot of moreresidential projects that are
on the way, so it's going to beinteresting to see how well the
improvements can improve it.
Steven Killfoil (16:30):
You know, it just really blows my mind.
I see on the news, you know,you see all these ISDs going, oh
, we're going to have to closethis school down.
I'm going good Lord, you guysare closing schools down, ours
are busting out at the seams andwe're having to build them.
Finally they started working onour Crossroads High School.
So because I think Braswell isjust about ready to explode,
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it's just well, wayoverpopulated, just yeah, well,
way over over, uh, populated.
So you know, by the time theyget this one built, chances are
it's going to already be up toits maximum capacity, almost
immediate.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (17:07):
So yeah, yeah, school construction is
definitely a challenge because,like you said, once it's built
it's necessary and fills up veryquickly.
It happened too with, like,fuller Elementary filled up very
quickly when Aubrey ISD builtthat and then they now have West
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Elementary they've also opened.
But it's kind of that balancinggame as well.
Is in a fast growth area.
You are going to end up havingthe tax revenue that comes in to
be able to build the schoolsand fill them.
A lot of the school districtswhere they have kind of static
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growth or they've built out andthey don't really have a lot
more children who are coming tothe districts to grow the
population.
That's where you end up runninginto issues.
Where you might have to closeschool district or close school
campuses is because if you don'thave more enrollment numbers
driving up the funding thatyou've received, then things
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stay very static and it's harderto keep campuses open in that
situation.
Steven Killfoil (18:16):
Right, I know up in Pilot Point you guys have
a lot of development going on,that's for sure.
Are you aware of any projectsthat are going to be started or
maybe even completed this year?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (18:31):
I'd have to check in on what might be
completed this year.
I know that one of the onesthat is kicking off right now is
the Bryson Ranch development inthe works going on off of FM
1385.
So that's in that kind of samearea as Mulberry Farms and
Creekview Meadows.
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So that's that's Definitelygoing to add a lot more
congestion in that area as wellwhich FM 1385 is another one of
those ones that is also going tobe expanded Right Hopefully
near future that they're workingon that one.
I want to lift it up there.
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They're let date, so when theywould try to even get firm
numbers on how much it's goingto cost and get someone on board
to commit to that project, willbe July 2026.
Steven Killfoil (19:23):
Mm hmm so.
Well yeah, hey.
In your opinion, how have someof the legislation from Austin
affected how our little townsaround here in this area operate
in regards to all these housesjust suddenly sprouting up
everywhere?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (19:42):
it's been interesting to watch over
the last few years.
Uh, when I came on to the postsignal staff in 2017, the first
meeting I covered was when thetown of providence village had
uh development agreements andannexation agreements in place,
or they were putting them inplace.
To respond to the Senate Bill 6that came out that year that
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said that cities and largercounties had to have voter
approval for annexations, and sothat limited or got rid of
forced annexation in Texas andthat made it so that cities, if
they didn't already have anagreement in place, would not
necessarily be able to annex inproperties, which I'm not going
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to get into whether that is orisn't the right approach, but it
did make it so that cities haveless options on what they can
do if there's a piece ofproperty that has been in their
extraterritorial jurisdictionfor a while.
It kind of now is dependentmore on voluntary annexations
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that are coming in.
Yeah, and then, 2019, there wasa House bill in 2439 that made
it so that cities are notallowed to put stricter
standards in place for buildingmaterials than the national
codes.
So that's what makes it so thatyou can put up an aluminum
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siding building in an area thatis close to residential that you
would have previously wanted torequire masonry on that sort of
a thing, and so that's whatkind of has prompted a lot of
movement from cities over tousing planned developments,
because they have a few moretools that allow them to have
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some more restrictiverequirements in place for the
look of the buildings that aregoing in.
But that was definitelyinteresting to see the challenge
.
I think there was something in2021 that also affected it, but
I couldn't remember what thatone was.
In 2023, though, there wasSenate Bill 2038 that made it so
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it's easier for property ownersto dis-index from the city's
ETJ, which is that extraterritorial jurisdiction, which
just means that something that,for years, the city has been
kind of looking at planning forits expansion and growth, at
planning for its expansion andgrowth.
Now that map can change, and ifthat map changes, that means
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that cities don't get to have asay in what the subdivision
looks like if it's developed outthere.
If they just annex from the ETJ,they might still be responsible
for first responders coming outto that area.
But it's kind of an interestingagreement at that point because
they're not in the ETJ butthey're still in the service
area.
What does that agreement looklike for payment for those
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things?
And it also can make it so thatif a municipality has a
municipal development districtthat allows them to get sales
tax dollars from the ETJ area,if someone disannexes and then
say, a commercial developmentgoes in there, you wouldn't get
any sales tax revenue from thatdevelopment into the city
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anymore.
So it's just one of thosethings that kind of affects the
way that I mean back years agoof the things that kind of
affects the way that I mean backyears ago there were a lot of
kind of just disagreementsbetween the cities in this area
between Pilot Point, salina andAubrey about who could plan to
claim certain areas as their ETJand it actually went into the
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court system for a decision.
So all of that money that wasspent back then to determine
what territory they should belooking at and planning to grow
into potentially means that thatwas wasted.
If now those areas can say youknow what, never mind, we don't
want to be even in your ETJ, noteven in the city.
So it can be an interestingchallenge for the cities that
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way too.
Yeah, there's also some thingsthat seem to be on the horizon
that may pass this legislativesession, that could increase
housing density, and so that'ssomething that I'll be watching
for as we go into thislegislative session watching for
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as we go into this legislativesession.
Steven Killfoil (24:22):
Well, Abigail, I'll tell you what we love the
Post Signal newspaper.
And what plans do you have forthe Post Signal?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (24:36):
So we have been working.
We've recently upgraded ourwebsite to make it a lot more
user-friendly.
So that's at postsignal.
com, and it's a little somethingmore that people are used to.
One of the next things that wewant to do is to find new and
innovative ways to connect withour new residents, who want to
know what's going on in theircommunities, want to be able to
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be tied in, to know what thedecisions are being made to
affect them.
Um, so that's one of the thingson their horizon.
Um is trying to find those waysto connect with those new
readers and then, um, we'rewe're hoping to try to influence
more multimedia uh aspects toour storytelling as well in the
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future with the new website.
So that could look likeeventually having a podcast
ourselves.
That could look like includingmore video work.
So those are all things that weare considering and looking at
trying to expand how we reachthe audience that needs to know
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what's happening here and stayinformed about what decisions
and events are affecting theirlives.
Steven Killfoil (25:48):
Yep, that is great.
I mean I think your newspaperit covers very well our whole
entire corridor and I alwayslook forward to getting each
edition, seeing how the kiddosare doing in high school and the
athletics and the sports.
I can't wait till CrossroadsHigh School gets into that.
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I love high school sports and Iwas in athletics when I was in
high school, so you guys coverit really well.
I'm very pleased.
I mean it's amazing, but hey,the theater's putting on that dr
seuss play going on.
Did your two little angels geta chance to be in the cast on
this one?
Abigail Thatcher (26:31):
unfortunately they're not in the cast on this
one.
They have a lot of friends whoare for this one but, um,
they're pretty involved withsome school sports and and
school activities and uh aaysasoccer at the moment, so that's
keeping them from uh being inthis one, but hopefully we'll
get to go to watch it.
Steven Killfoil (26:50):
So yeah, I've seen some of the clips.
It looks pretty good.
I think I might get up therefor that one.
Abigail Thatcher All (26:57):
Definitely the Garage Door Theater does an
incredible job and it's such agreat resource to have that
civic theater here in PilotPoint and um it, it draws in
people from all over.
I mean I know you've gotten tobe in plays together and I live
in Providence Village.
You live in Crossroads Um, soit's not just for Pilot Point,
but it definitely is a greatdraw that Pilot Point has there.
Steven Killfoil (27:21):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Well, hey, you're part of theRotary Club right up in Pilot
Point, yeah, so how wouldsomebody get involved with the
club?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (27:32):
Sure, if you want to be involved with
the Lake Ray Roberts Rotary Club, the best way to start is to
come attend our meetings.
We meet at the Point BankCommunity Center at noon every
Tuesday, so it's open forvisitors to come in and see what
we're about and get to hearfrom our speakers or participate
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in service projects, if that'swhat we're working on that time.
So, yeah, we would love to haveanyone who's interested in
helping promote and support andserve the community to come out
and be a part of this.
Steven Killfoil (28:08):
That sounds neat.
So anybody out there that youwant to get involved in the
Rotary Club show up at that.
Now the bank is it the one inAubrey?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (28:18):
The branch in Aubrey, no, it's in
Pilot, point Okay, the branch inPilot.
Steven Killfoil (28:20):
Point.
Yeah, make sure you drive up toPilot Point and go to the Point
Bank there to get into thatmeeting.
Yeah, absolutely.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (28:28):
Yeah, it's the community center.
That's just between the bankbuilding itself and Liberty
Street, up here in off of 377.
Steven Killfoil (28:37):
Awesome.
Well, are there any otherevents in our area coming around
the corner in April that youknow of?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (28:44):
Uh, April is going to be pretty busy
.
We're going to have I have thefirst um fruit, I think it's
fruit jar junction uh, farmer'smarket and uh, that's going to
be let me double check on timingon that one that first one will
be April 5th.
So that's going to be a let medouble check on timing on that
one that first one will be April5th.
So that's going to be afarmer's market in downtown
Aubrey.
I mean, it's going to befarmer's market kind of kicked
(29:08):
off for a lot of the area here.
Toward the end of the month andinto next month, there'll be
Easter events happening in allof our communities.
Yeah, there's a lot that'sgoing on.
Speaking of events, right nowmy main sports reporter is
covering the Bassmaster Classic,if you're in Pilot Point, so
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that's been a lot of fun for himto get to interact with those
anglers and get to see what'sgoing on on our lake right now.
Steven Killfoil (29:40):
Oh yeah, definitely.
So what time is that farmer'smarket?
Abigail Thatcher Allen (29:47):
The farmer's market for Georgia
Junction says it will be from 8am to noon.
Steven Killfoil (29:53):
Okay, I'll have to get up there and check that
out.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (29:58):
And the Pilot Point will have its
farmers market kicking off atthe end of the month in April.
Steven Killfoil (30:03):
Okay, at the end of the last Saturday.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (30:07):
Yes, yeah, it's definitely everything
.
All the events, keep us hopping, that's for sure.
Steven Killfoil (30:13):
Oh yeah.
Well, it'd be boring if wedidn't.
Abigail Thatcher Allen (30:18):
That's true, and let me I need to put
in a plug for a second too,about the Aubrey Education
Foundation.
They have their upcoming galahappening on April 5th, so as
far as I know, there's stilltickets available Last I checked
.
So that would be a greatopportunity.
If people want to have a funevening, that would be a great
(30:39):
opportunity.
If people want to have a funevening, then that's a chance to
get to support the schooldistrict and get to have some
fun.
It's going to be hosted at theLone Star Lodge and Marina up in
Pilot Point, which is alsodefinitely worth checking out,
especially at sunset.
If you haven't been there forsunset, you definitely should.
Steven Killfoil (30:59):
All right, all right, pretty gorgeous, well,
hey, thanks for coming on theshow today, Abigail.
I appreciate it, and it's beenfun doing it over the phone, I
appreciate you too.
Thanks for asking me you betwell, you have a lovely day and
I'll see you around.
Thanks, you bet.
(31:20):
Bye, bye.
Well, for more fun, guests thatare coming to the show next
week.
Stay tuned in each and everyMonday for new episodes on Cross
Roads Podcast.
Until next week, I'll see youat the top.
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