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Hemp's story reads like a political thriller, complete with corporate conspiracies, government cover-ups, and a modern-day governor fighting to restore an ancient plant's rightful place in American agriculture and medicine. Steven and Mady Killfoil take us deep into this fascinating saga, revealing how hemp went from powering colonial America to becoming the target of one of history's most successful propaganda campaigns.

We explore hemp's incredible historical significance, from the hemp ropes that carried Columbus to the New World to the hemp paper that bore our Constitution's sacred words. You'll discover how George Washington and Thomas Jefferson cultivated this versatile crop, and why early American farmers faced legal requirements to grow it. Then we dive into the dark turn of 1937, when powerful industrial interests led by media mogul William Randolph Hearst orchestrated hemp's prohibition through fear-mongering and racial prejudice, protecting their cotton, paper, and chemical empire profits at the expense of farmers and consumers.

The conversation shifts to hemp's modern renaissance, examining the mounting scientific evidence supporting CBD's therapeutic benefits for anxiety, chronic pain, epilepsy, and inflammation. We analyze the current legislative battleground in Texas, where Governor Greg Abbott has taken a surprising stand supporting hemp legality against pharmaceutical industry pressure and conservative opposition. Stephen and Maddie share crucial consumer guidance for navigating the CBD marketplace safely, emphasizing quality testing standards and the importance of supporting reputable manufacturers over big box retailers peddling potentially contaminated products.

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Steven Killfoil (00:04):
Crossroads.
Podcast.
We'll be right back For thosewho want to be in the know.

(01:03):
Who's your daddy?
Good morning Crossroads.
Welcome back to Health Newswith Steven and Mady, where we
explore the truths behindnatural health legislation and
the future of wellness.
I'm Steven Killfoil.

Mady Killfoil (01:21):
And

Steven Killfoil (01:45):
That's right.
Battles, including the role ofGovernor Abbott and Texas
legislation that's right.
Hemp has been the center ofsome of the most fascinating
political and health debates inAmerican history.
Today, we'll cover how hempwent from being a staple crop to
a banned plant, the industriesthat pushed it out, the health

(02:06):
benefits, especially CBD, andwhat's happening right now in
the Texas legislature.

Mady Killfoil (02:13):
And let's just say, governor Greg Abbott has
taken a firm stance on this andit's surprised a few folks.
But first let's roll it backand talk about where it all
began.

Steven Killfoil (02:30):
So hemp's history goes back thousands of
years.
It was one of the first plantsto be domesticated by humans,
used for rope, clothing, sails,even paper.
In fact, the sails and ropes ofColumbus's ships made from hemp
.
Our very own Constitution ofthe United States of America was

(02:54):
written on hemp paper.

Mady Killfoil (02:56):
Yes, oh well, I didn't know that.
And get this.
Early American farmers wererequired by law to grow hemp.
In the 1600s, George Washingtonand Thomas Jefferson both
cultivated hemp.
It was that valuable.

Steven Killfoil (03:17):
But by the 1930s, everything changed,
everything changed.
The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937effectively made hemp illegal in
the United States, despite thefact that hemp and marijuana are
different in terms of THClevels.

Mady Killfoil (03:38):
And why was that?
Well, it wasn't about publichealth, it was about competition
.
The cotton industry, papermanufacturers and chemical
companies saw hemp as a massivethreat.
It was strong, sustainable andcheap.

Steven Killfoil (03:58):
Yes, and so they lobbied hard.
So they lobbied hard.
Big players like WilliamRandolph Hearst, who owned
newspapers and timber operations, helped fuel a propaganda
campaign.
They demonized hemp byassociating it with marijuana,
using racial fear-mongering andfake science.

(04:20):
And doesn't that sound familiarscience?
And doesn't that sound familiar?
We see this more often now,especially over the last eight
years or so in our owngovernment.
Lies, lies, lies, and this ishow these corrupt individuals
that have lots of money andpower manage to push through

(04:41):
crap on us poor people in theUnited States.
But no more, we're wising up,we're educating ourselves and
we're not going to be fooled bythem.
Stupid lies much longer.

Mady Killfoil (04:57):
Well, the advantage is that we have a very
smart Republican president anda smart individual that's
running the health system, so wecan only hope.
Fast forward to modern timesand we know now better.

(05:18):
Ham is back in the spotlight,not just as a textile or
eco-friendly product, but forits health benefits, especially
CBD oil.

Steven Killfoil (05:30):
Yes, hemp seeds are a nutritional powerhouse,
rich in omega-3 and omega-6fatty acids, protein and fiber.
They're great for heart health,digestion and skin, and you can
put them on a salad right alongwith your pumpkin seeds or
sesame seeds or sunflower seeds.
They're all good for you.

(05:51):
So I don't know what the bigdeal is, but I'm telling you,
hemp, I think, is going to behere to stay.

Mady Killfoil (05:57):
Well, I'm guessing that the pharmaceutical
industry, big pharma, hassomething against it and it's
fighting it tooth and nails.
And then there's CBD extractedfrom hemp.
And then there's CBD extractedfrom hemp.
Unlike THC, it won't get youhigh, but it has shown amazing

(06:18):
promises for things likereducing anxiety and stress,
managing chronic pain, improvingsleep.
Alleviating seizures, especiallyin epilepsy.
Reducing inflammation.

Steven Killfoil (06:33):
Yes, people with arthritis, post-traumatic
stress disorder, migraines andeven pets with anxiety are
turning to CBD oil.
The science is stacking up infavor of hemp as a safe natural
tool for wellness.
As a safe natural tool forwellness.

Mady Killfoil (06:51):
Now let's talk about Texas, where hemp and CBD
are in a bit of a legislativetug-of-war.

Steven Killfoil (06:59):
Absolutely, and it's really sad that our
lieutenant governor is soadamant about trying to make it
illegal.
It makes me wonder if he's inthe back pocket of the
pharmaceutical companies

Mady Killfoil (07:12):
I respected him until now,

Steven Killfoil (07:14):
Yeah, up until when he made this decision.
It's like no, that's reallyillogical, but anyway.
So in 2019, texas legalized thecultivation and sale of hemp
and cbd products under the texashouse bill 13.
This alleged with the federal2018 Farm Bill.

(07:35):
In an article by the TexasTribune dated April 23, 2019, by
Alex Samuels, titled TexasHouse Votes to Legalize the
Farming of Industrial Hemp.
He states quote of industrialhemp.
He states, quote Hemp is acousin of the marijuana plant,

(08:00):
but it contains low levels ofthe psychoactive element in
marijuana known as THC.
The House's bill will now go tothe Senate.
The Texas House gave broadpreliminary approval Tuesday to
a bill that would allow farmersin the state to legally grow
industrial hemp, a move laudedas a win for the state's farmers
.
Hemp, which is a cousin ofmarijuana plant but contains low

(08:23):
levels of tetrahydrocannabole,the psychoactive element in
marijuana known as THC.
While hemp-based products thatcontain no THC, like clothing,
twine, protein powder,moisturizers and essential oils,
are legal in the state, theplant cannot be legally grown

(08:46):
here and Texas businesses oftenhave to source it from other
states.
There's absolutely no goodreason for Texas farmers and
ranchers not to have hemp as acrop option, said Gene Hall, a
spokesman for the Texas FarmBureau.
I suspect a lot of farmers willchoose this option once it's

(09:07):
available.
It is a drought-tolerant cropand can be grown anywhere where
cropping is prevalent right now.
House Bill 1325 from StateRepresentative Tracy King,
democrat from Batesville, wouldalso legalize hemp and hemp
derived extracts, like CBD oil,as long as they contain no more

(09:29):
than 0.3% THC.
Should King's bill become law,marijuana would still be illegal
.
King's bill would also removehemp from the state's controlled
substance list, where it isstill listed as a criminal
substance, and set up farmingprogram outlining guidelines for

(09:50):
cultivating the plant.
House Bill 1325 isright-to-farm legislation that
will allow Texas farmers theopportunity to cultivate a
drought-resistant cash crop,that being hemp.
King told other House membersOn an update.
House Bill 1325 reached itsfinal unanimous approval in the

(10:14):
House on Wednesday and now itstands to the Senate.

(10:38):
More than 40 other states havelegalized hemp production, but
bills to do so in Texas havefailed in past legislative
sessions.
King previously said he wasoptimistic about his bill's
passage because Congress passedthe Farm Bill last year,
legalizing hemp that contains nomore than 0.3% THC at the
federal level.

Mady Killfoil (10:46):
But earlier this year, some lawmakers starting
pushing back arguing that CBD,delta 8, THC and other
hemp-derived products werecreating a loophole for legal
highs.
They wanted to restrict or banthese items.

Steven Killfoil (11:03):
That's when Governor Greg Abbott stepped in.
He's been firmly in support ofkeeping hemp legal.
Been firmly in support ofkeeping hemp legal.
His reasoning he sees the hempindustry as a legitimate market
that's helping small businesses,farmers and consumers.

Mady Killfoil (11:20):
He also pointed out that many Texans use these
products responsibly for healthand wellness.
Shutting down the industrywould hurt thousands of people
and potentially lead to a blackmarket.

Steven Killfoil (11:35):
Plus Abbott recognizes that hemp is not
marijuana.
It's federally legal, it'sregulated and Texans have a
right to choose natural wellnesstools like CBD oil Natural
wellness- tools like CBD oil.

Mady Killfoil (11:51):
So, as of now, governor Abbott continues to
support keeping hemp and itsderivatives legal, even as some
lawmakers continue to push fortighter restrictions.

Steven Killfoil (12:05):
Yeah, and I want to add to that.
So when they make up their mindand decide to do what they're
going to do, it's going to be apositive in the right direction.
First of all, it'll allowfarmers an optional crop to
produce.
We'll be able to produce paper,clothing, rope, twine all kinds

(12:30):
of different products from thatcrop, all kinds of different
products from that crop.
And it'll really put a kiboshon the drug dealers who make
millions of dollars in salesselling marijuana.
When hemp is made legal and allthe derivatives of the
medicinal value are discoveredand sold over the counter

(12:54):
legally, then you're going toreally put a bite.
I mean talk about a win for thesupposed drug war that we're
not winning.
This would be definitely one ofthem, and it has the same
health benefits.
Absolutely.

Mady Killfoil (13:09):
Helping a lot of people.

Steven Killfoil (13:10):
Yes, so where does this all go from here?
Honestly, public education iskey.
The more people understand thathemp is not a dangerous drug
but a powerful plant withnutritional and medicinal value,
the better chance we have ofprotecting access.

(13:31):
The Native American Indianshave been using it for centuries
.
It's not an unknown thing, andthey have a whole lot more
medicinal things that they dowith it besides what we use and
have discovered, and we owe thema great deal of credit for the
discovery of those things.

Mady Killfoil (13:52):
Again, big pharma is against everything that's
natural that God put on thisearth for us, for healing.
So this is why they are pushingback so hard.
So we also need to keep an eyeon state-level legislation.
The fight isn't over.

(14:12):
Advocates, voters and businessowners must keep pushing back
against misinformation.

Steven Killfoil (14:21):
Yes, and on the consumer side, do your research
.
Buy from reputable CBD brands,ask for lab results, support
local Texasas hemp farmers whenyou can.
It's very important.
You don't want to go out andbuy just any old thing, products

(14:43):
like from walmart or even cvsor walgreens, because you don't
know one where those companiesmanufacture and where they got
their ingredients from.
You don't know what theirmanufacturing practices are.
You need to ask.
If you consult with Nature'sSunshine, for example, you call

(15:06):
them up.
They will give you all theinformation that they have on
where they source from, theirgood manufacturing practices and
they do an extensive test onall their herbal supplements up
to 600, including radiation.
If the batch of herbs fails anyone test, they reject the whole

(15:29):
batch and will not put it intheir product.
So you want to find companiesthat have as high a standard
like nature's sunshine, andthere are.
There are many of them outthere.
But call them, ask them, findout.
Hey, where do you get thesefrom?
What country?
What are their farmingpractices?
Are they healthy?

(15:50):
Are they contaminated withpoison?
you know you must ask

Mady Killfoil (15:55):
for radiation

Steven Killfoil (15:56):
or radiation, yeah,

Mady Killfoil (15:57):
any kind of pollutions like insecticides or
pesticides, whatever, and don'tgo for the lowest price

Steven Killfoil (16:06):
, because that you get what my grandma used to
say this, and my grandfather tooyou get what you pay for.
So if you think, if you're goingto go trot down and I hate to
pick on Walmart, but I'm goingto you go down to Walmart and
you pick up a multivitamin andgo oh wow, I can get that for
eight bucks.
All right, chances are thatvitamin probably is full of crap

(16:30):
and you can check it out foryourself.
Do your research, do yourresearch.
Do your research.
I'm not saying, yeah, go outand spend $95 on a multivitamin
either.
Do your research.
Always ask, look up thecompanies, go, call them.
Hey, if they're on the leveland they're on board and they're

(16:51):
proud of their stuff, they willshare it with you, that
information, and if you feelcomfortable, then you can make
an educated choice of whether tobuy from them or not.

Mady Killfoil (17:02):
Of course, so, from ancient rope to modern day,
cbd oil hemp has come fullcircle.
Hemp has come full circle andwe are not going to let history
repeat itself with another banbased on greed and
misinformation.

Steven Killfoil (17:18):
You said it Well.
Thanks for tuning in to HealthNews with Steven and Mady.
If you enjoyed today's episode,share it with a friend,
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Don't forget to go to Amazonand buy the book Achieve Optimal

(17:46):
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com.
Now for some announcements inand around town.
Planning and Zoning are havingtheir meeting this Tuesday,
august 5th, at 6 pm.
Regular town council meetingwas canceled for Monday today.

(18:09):
Don't forget to stop by theSummer Market.
Saturday, august 9th, from 8 amto 12 noon.
Our neighbors up in Pilot Pointhave an exercise class at the
Community Center at 10 am thismorning On Tuesday, august 5th,
at the Community Center at 9 30am there will be a veterans

(18:30):
breakfast and a game day.
Then in the evening, hop onover to the coffee house with
jemerson and jam sessions from 6pm to 9 pm.
Wednesday morning, august 6th,star bright is holding free
family music classes at 10 am,right right there on the square

(18:51):
in Pilot Point.
Later that night go over toLowbrow Saloon for some karaoke
at 7 pm.
Also on Wednesday evenings atthe Pilot Point Coffeehouse 25%
off all wine by glass or bottle.

Mady Killfoil (19:07):
Until next time, stay informed, stay curious and
stay natural.

Steven Killfoil (19:14):
Stay tuned in next week for more amazing news
and guests.
We'll see you at the top.

Mady Killfoil (19:21):
Bye-bye

Steven Killfoil (19:21):
, bye-bye, crossroads Podcast.
We'll be right back, but thosewho want to be it know who's

(20:26):
your daddy.
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