March 31, 2025 • 33 mins
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A community stands at the precipice of a major decision that will impact their daily lives for years to come. David joins the Crossroads Podcast to sound the alarm about a developer's plan to build 50 new homes on a small 10-acre parcel of land in their neighborhood, despite the area already suffering from critical infrastructure shortcomings.
The conversation reveals the daily frustration residents face with current traffic conditions – taking a staggering 30 minutes just to exit their neighborhood during rush hour. With Oak Grove Road remaining a narrow two-lane street until planned expansions in 2030, adding potentially 150-200 more vehicles from new homes would create an untenable situation. Meanwhile, another nearby development with rental-only properties is already built and ready for occupants, compounding these concerns.
David and the host discuss the deeper implications beyond just traffic – from safety concerns for children playing near overcrowded streets to the developer's dubious promise that none of these new homes would become rentals (despite having no legal mechanism to prevent this after sale). They share how community activism has already shifted the town council from a 5-1 vote in favor to a deadlocked 3-3 tie, highlighting the power of resident involvement.
The alternative vision they present is compelling: transforming this space into a community park that would enhance rather than strain neighborhood resources. Such a space could host events, provide recreation for families, and preserve the existing tree barrier between properties.
This conversation serves as both a rallying cry and a case study in grassroots advocacy. The final vote happens Tuesday, April 1st at 6pm at Little Elm City Hall, and the hosts emphasize that every resident's presence matters, whether they speak or simply show support through attendance. For anyone facing similar development challenges in their community, this episode provides valuable insights into effective organizing and the importance of standing together for neighborhood quality of life.
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Good morning Crossroads.
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But those who want to be indialing David's number now Hello
, hey, oh, much better.
Wow, I don't know what kind offeedback loop I was getting, but
it was a doozy.
David Crocker (01:49):
So I was on speakerphone on my phone and I
don't know if that was causinganything or not.
Steven Killfoil (01:53):
That's a possibility Not, not sure, but
we got it cleared up.
Now you're coming in loud andclear and beautiful, perfect.
So good afternoon, David, andwelcome to Cross Roads Podcast.
So why don't you tell ourlisteners a little bit about
yourself and let's tackle theproblem at hand of having too
many houses and not enough roadspace?
David Crocker (02:27):
So I've been in Cross Roads.
We moved in in March of 2019.
We built out the house kind ofin the professional industry
merchant services kind of boringstuff like that Nobody likes
talking about credit cards orpaying for them, but that's the
business that I'm in on aprofessional level.
But really what we're dealingwith now is just the struggle
with adding more homes here,adding more traffic, more
potential crime, and you and Iboth have had an opportunity to
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go to the town council a coupleof times and have a chance to
talk with them and talk to thegroup, and we're trying to get
more of our neighbors involvedand get them plugged in to
really petition this newdevelopment.
There's just better use forthat area.
Steven Killfoil (03:03):
Oh, I agree 100%.
Honestly, it's really onlylarge enough for a small park
really, if the truth be told.
But there's no way in the worldthat you can cram 50 houses
into that 10-acre lot.
That's just unbelievable.
David Crocker (03:23):
Well, what's interesting is the original plan
for that development that wasapproved by the city was 50 foot
lots.
Only that's what they have thegreen light for.
They have since modified thatand I don't know if they got
approval or they didn't.
I have not been able to confirmthat.
But now they have some of thehomes that are 40-foot lots,
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which is just allowing them tocram more homes perfect word
right into that small spaceright there.
Here's my biggest concern, justnorth of that development.
So if we are on Oak Grove northof 380 and south of Fishtrap,
in that kind of what would youcall that, that northeast corner
, right there there's CanineCowboy and they're selling,
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obviously because that farm isgone.
But right behind Canine Cowboyis that new development that's
already been built.
And what's wild is thatdevelopment is rental only and,
as I understand it, approved forSection 8.
There's at least 50, 60, 70homes in that development.
It's built, they're about tostart moving people in.
Steven Killfoil (04:30):
Lovely, just what we need.
David Crocker (04:32):
Well, right.
So I mean, that's not even thedevelopment that's in question
here, that's on the radar to bebuilt, and this developer is
trying to get his way byschmoozing the council and
promising things he can'tdeliver on, which I'll get to in
a moment but we've got thatdevelopment that's pretty much
ready to go, and now thisdeveloper is trying to add more
homes a whole new developer.
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So we're talking at least 100to 120 homes in that little tiny
sliver that used to be a farm.
Now, the biggest problem wehave right now is traffic.
Steven Killfoil (05:05):
Oh yeah, the second biggest problem we have
right now is traffic.
David Crocker (05:10):
Oh yeah, the second biggest problem we have
right now is crime.
So when we start talking aboutrental and boy, I don't want to
talk bad about people in anystretch from there, but the data
will bear out Homeowners versushome renters the higher the
rental, the more crimeopportunity exists.
That's just data, that's justnationwide, not exclusive to
where we are.
Hate to say it, but it's true.
So we have this here with thisother development that's going
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to come in, and all of us try toexit the neighborhood, either
on main, which is, if you're onthe little town side where
you're closer to Providencevillage, you can go out on main
and deal with that, but then ofcourse, there's all the
construction on 380, and that'sa nightmare.
So, most of us are going to exiton Oak Grove going south to 380
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.
Now that's a little tinytwo-lane road with that little
dog leg in it that, by the way,all of the parts of that have
kind of been worn down by peopleabusing that part of the road.
Parts of that have kind of beenworn down by people abusing
that part of the road for safety.
They have tried to do a littlebit at the 7-Eleven parking lot
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area to really be able to turnin, but nothing's really
addressed the traffic.
So now pack on these new homes.
I would assume each of thosehomes will have a minimum of one
car.
Let's assume one and a half.
That's close to 150 cars thatwe're going to be adding to the
traffic.
So what we brought up in thelast meeting was they're not
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going to address widening OakGrove until five years from now.
Steven Killfoil (06:41):
Yeah, so 2030.
David Crocker (06:44):
Right, right, we're talking 2030, right, so
we're going to have that newdevelopment that's already built
, the development that's planned, that they're going to build,
which will be done in two years.
Right, it doesn't take long toput up 50 homes, 60 homes at all
, let's assume 150 cars.
But the new development is kindof a higher end home, a higher
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price tag home.
I'm going to say there's goingto be more cars there, right?
That type of client, that typeof customer.
Usually they have more vehicles, so potentially 200 cars in the
morning.
Now, the last time you and Iwent out and tried to drive in
that morning traffic just to getout of the neighborhood, on Oak
Grove there's two spots becausewe're on the crossroad side.
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So getting out of there and ifyou're on the little M side, six
one up does the other just toget from fish trap, which is the
far north spot, even past mostof the development, to 380, will
take you a minimum of 30minutes, 30 minutes just to get
there now I can take 30 minutesfrom 380.
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Yeah, so you're aware of that.
So once I get through thatlight, I can get all the way to
Frisco in that 30 minutes.
Steven Killfoil (07:55):
But, here.
David Crocker (07:55):
I can't even get out of my development in 30
minutes.
So I'm just going to tell youright now that is an
unsustainable problem, and sothe way I look at this is why
would you build the homes first?
To me, you build all the homes,you create all the traffic now
you pile it around these twolane roads and then by 2030, you
then create construction whichis destruction first of the road
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, to then construct it the wayyou need it to be.
Construction which isdestruction first of the road,
to then construct it the way youneed it to be.
Now my logic, my brain, tellsme that's like getting dressed
in the morning, brushing yourteeth, combing your hair,
getting ready for work and thenhopping in the shower.
It's just backwards.
You've got to get the roadbuilt out first and then do that
.
I just don't want homes thereto begin with.
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But even if they're going to dothat, take care of the road
first, then we can talk aboutadding more people here.
But I would much prefer a park.
A mixed use park would be great.
We've got plenty of neighborsthat have home-based businesses.
Why don't we have events heldthere, weddings held there?
There's a lot of people thatplay soccer, that I mean.
What is the closest park?
Seven, eight minutes away orseven, eight miles away?
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I'm sorry, not minutes, butmiles away.
Yeah, so we're.
We're a long ways away, and Iknow that tons and tons of these
neighbors would take advantageof that.
Where do our kids go to play?
The houses are already crammedtogether.
We've got that one little tinyplay area next to the pool.
Steven Killfoil (09:16):
Yeah.
David Crocker (09:16):
And I saw it.
Steven Killfoil (09:17):
I'm sorry that that's a terrible joke.
Yeah, it's full of crime.
Uh, they find drug needles inand out of the playground
equipment all the time they do.
David Crocker (09:30):
how many times have we seen on camera people
jumping into backyards of otherpeople's homes, breaking into
cars, trying to get around thetraffic?
At Opaline there's threefamilies living in one home on
the corner.
You can't even get around thecorner from there, which is a
traffic violation in and ofitself.
Steven Killfoil (09:51):
Yeah, yeah.
If you're coming and there'ssomebody else coming and you
don't see one another, you'reboth going to have to.
Well, you'll either collide oryou're both going to have to
stop, but there's nowhere topull over or back up, because
both sides are full of cars.
David Crocker (10:10):
And a lot of times there are trucks on that
corner and you know a truck sitshigher up.
Many of these passenger carssit down low the ability to see
around that corner safely, andsome people are newer drivers,
younger drivers, inexperienceddrivers.
It's an accident waiting tohappen.
It's not that it may happen, itwill happen.
It's just a matter of time.
Absolutely yeah.
Steven Killfoil (10:31):
It's great.
Well, I've actually seen acouple of instances where people
they've had their truck parkedon the side of the road in front
of their house and people havecome along and have just
literally knocked the mirror offof the truck with their car.
David Crocker (10:48):
I remember talking to that person when that
happened to his truck.
And it was an amazing thingthat just somebody kept driving.
I don't understand it.
I just don't understand it keptdriving.
Steven Killfoil (11:00):
Uh, I, I don't understand it.
I just don't understand it.
And from experience I can tellyou, I, I was coming down el
dorado.
Just I just crossed from lakedallas and this big old cdw, uh
trash truck uh pushed me off tothe side of the road and I ran
into some of those pylons andone of those pylons knocked my
mirror clean off my car.
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Luckily it was held on by thethe wire and uh, I, just, you
know, I, I couldn't, I couldn't,um, I, I had to just uh come
home, uh tape it up to the carand order a mirror.
You know it cost me 80 bucks.
I changed it out myself.
It probably would have cost alot more if I'd had the mechanic
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do it, but luckily it was afairly easy fix.
But I shouldn't have had tohave done that.
No, and you shouldn't have ityou know, the guy, just I mean,
he just rammed me, he didn'teven think twice and then he
turned left and I had to keepgoing straight because it was
rush hour traffic and I wishedI'd gotten license plate of that
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of that guy.
You know, I just.
David Crocker (12:05):
Would have been helpful, you know.
I'll tell you something elsetoo.
That happened on fish trap justa couple of months ago when
they were getting close to mostof the homes being done, but
there was still quite a bit ofconstruction on that rental
development that's already builtnow.
One of the 18 wheelers was onfish trap.
Now there is a weight limit andthere are signs posted all up
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and down fish trap beginning at377, basically where you're
going to access that to get tothis area, and it says truck's
over a certain weight notallowed on this road.
Well, when you have an18-wheeler loaded with lumber,
they're taking that road because380 is under construction.
They can't maneuver, they can'tget on main because 380, again
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was broken apart.
So this was really the only waythey could get that lumber to
that development Do you rememberthat truck, that it basically
jackknifed at the corner of OakGrove and Fishtrap.
It tipped over to its righttrying to take a right turn to
go south on Oak Grove.
Lumber, went everywhere andthat intersection was absolutely
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destroyed.
Steven Killfoil (13:13):
It was shut down, yeah totally shut down.
David Crocker (13:17):
And at the worst possible time.
So, now we're going to havemore development, more homes and
more replication of that exactsame problem.
I am not for it.
Steven Killfoil (13:29):
Yeah, me either .
I 100% agree.
I will be at that meeting, andthose of you that are out there
listening, that meeting takesplace on Tuesday, april 1st
April Fool's Day, great.
So at 6 pm at Little Elm CityHall.
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You just go down El Dorado andyou turn right into the parking
lot right where the fire stationis and park your car back there
and walk into the city hall andlot right where the fire
station is and park your carback there and walk into the
city hall and that's where themeeting will be.
I'm definitely going to bethere for that one, but yeah I
will too.
David Crocker (14:08):
It'll be the third one in a row and, uh boy,
the last time you spoke it was avery impassioned speech and I
was about ready to get up andcheer, but the rules tell you
you can't do that.
Right?
For anybody that needs thephysical address, it's 100 El
Dorado Parkway.
It's actually inside thelibrary.
So if it's your first timegoing to the town hall and you
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get there and you say I don'tsee a building, go inside the
library's main entrance, gostraight back, and that's where
you'll have the town hall.
Arrive early If you can getthere about 10 minutes early and
you want to speak we encourageyou to speak.
We'll be there to help you fillout a form.
There is a specific form thatyou fill out.
It tells you what you'reprotesting.
You just give them your basicinformation and then that gets
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turned in to the clerk and thenthey will call your name.
If you don't want to speak, westill want you there.
We still need you there.
We need strength in numbers.
The first time that we met andwere at this, the vote was five
to one.
Four right, so five to one.
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We're for this development.
The second time we showed upwith some more impassioned
speeches.
More people showed up.
We got the vote to a deadlock3-3.
So we're making traction andthis is the last chance for us
to get this.
If we don't get this, it's agreen light for this development
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and there's nothing we can doabout it, so, folks, I
absolutely encourage everybody.
please show up and speak, orjust show up and fill out the
form and let them know thatyou're against this.
That counts just as well.
Not everybody's comfortable,Stephen, like you or I, to get
up and speak in front of a crowdTotally okay.
Steven Killfoil (15:55):
Just be there now.
I'm a distinguished toastmaster, so I got over my fear of
speeching.
Just be there now.
I'm a distinguished Toastmaster, so I got over my fear of
speeching.
Anybody that wants toaccomplish that, I encourage you
to join a Toastmasters club.
You won't regret it.
It'll be the best number offriends you ever make in your
lifetime.
So I always promoteToastmasters all the time.
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I mean I both my wife and Iwent into it together and we
just had a wonderful time.
So yes, you're you're right, I'mnot afraid to get up and talk.
David Crocker (16:30):
My current line of work, like I said, in in the
kind of the credit card world.
I'm actually a sales trainer inthat industry and I remember
when I first became a salestrainer I was kind of nervous
about talking in public.
Now I've spoken in front ofgroups of thousands.
Just give me a mic and watchout, and I just want to
encourage people.
If you're not comfortablespeaking, let us speak for you.
Give us the notes that you want.
(16:50):
In fact, on both of theFacebook pages for the
neighborhood, the regular pageand the unfiltered page for the
neighborhood, the regular pageand the unfiltered page yes, we
have a post that's been reposteda number of times.
I'm the admin of the unfilteredpage, so I'll put that on there
and pin that today.
Comment on there what you wantto share, what you want to say
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that you can attend, on eitherone or both of the pages.
Let us get a running start forthis on Tuesday.
Steven Killfoil (17:19):
Absolutely.
I 100% agree, and I think theyhave a very good town council,
from what I could see the firsttime when I went there and I met
them.
Little Elm as a whole is apretty amazing city.
My wife and I have both had thepleasure of participating in
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the Little Elm Fire Department'sCitizens Academy.
If anybody listening, if youwould like an opportunity to
find out what exactly those menand women do, join that fire
academy.
It's worth it and it's a lot offun.
We met a great bunch of folksand what I could see when I
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attended this uh the firstmeeting when you were there, uh,
the city council listens.
They, they listen to the people.
That's clear.
I mean, obviously we got athree to three tie from a five
to one in favor, so they thereare, they are listening to us,
um, so hopefully this round uhwill be the nail in the coffin
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and put the axe to thedevelopment and who knows, maybe
, maybe we'll have us a littlepark to get developed there.
I'm all for that.
A park would be an amazingasset to have right there in the
middle of our communities.
I mean, it would definitely beused by far hands down.
David Crocker (18:42):
I'm sure it would be.
It's a family area.
There's all families that livehere.
I envision a lot of commercethere.
I envision food trucks going inthere.
Just the other day Cousin'sMain Lobster was at HTO, which
was great, but that's right on380.
There's a ton of traffic.
Imagine having the food truckson a weekend.
Steven Killfoil (19:02):
Imagine having events on a weekend.
David Crocker (19:04):
Imagine sporting events there.
Imagine renting out somethingto where maybe you want to have
photographs taken of your familyor your kids as they graduate.
Absolutely Anything like that.
A small playground for the kids, anything, the trees that can
remain on the southern border.
So those folks that live therenow that's the big deal is the
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folks that live on that northside, that border, the southern
area of that construction, thisdeveloper has said well, I'm
going to put two-story homesthere and I've got to knock the
trees down to do that, whichmeans those two-story homes can
look into the backyard of thosenorth neighbors, and that is not
acceptable.
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Even when pressed by thecouncil, that developer said I
cannot commit to not putting atwo-story home.
Maybe and he intentionally usedthe word maybe, I pay attention
Maybe we can put homes therethat don't have a window in the
upstairs.
That wasn't a commitment, thatwas something to get that
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council to potentially agree.
So here's something that thatdeveloper said too.
He said, and I quote I canguarantee there will be no
rental homes in this development.
Now, stephen, you and I bothbought here, we built here.
We know what the rules are whenwe bought mine's a home we
heard yeah, mine's a lunar too.
Steven Killfoil (20:27):
We built ours in 2018 and we were told the
same lie by the nar oh no, therewon't be any rentals.
Oh no, there won't be any carson the streets.
Oh no, there won't be any carson the street.
Oh no, there won't be any.
Section eight oh no, all a bigfat lie.
David Crocker (20:43):
And this developer said that to appease
the council.
I watched the council nod inagreement oh, that's right,
there won't be any rental.
So that was in the firstmeeting.
In the second meeting I calledthat developer out very politely
but I reminded the council.
Do you remember last time wewere here and the developer said
to you I won't allow rentalshere.
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Can you show me how thatdeveloper can commit to that?
Because once that home is soldand there is a homeowner there,
there is nothing in that salescontract from a developer who
may.
He said that for your benefit.
That's what I told the council,so he can get his way.
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I'm not going to say that helied, but I will say that that
was not a true statement.
Absolutely, and I watched everyhead on that council, not up and
down.
Oh my goodness, I can't believewe fell for that health of that
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.
Steven Killfoil (21:58):
From a legal standpoint, no entity can say
that section 8 cannot be, orrentals, because it's against
the state laws, correct?
So, yeah, you're caught betweena rock and a hard place.
And the whole reason I moved uphere was because I lived in a
neighborhood in Irving, texas,that looked like a used car lot
that had five, six, seven, eightfamilies living inside of a
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single family home and nine, 10,11, 12 cars parked all up and
down the streets both sides.
But those streets were wideenough that you could drive both
ways and still have cars parkedon the side of the street.
So it wasn't too bad, it justwas an eyesore and you don't
have that luxury here.
No, streets aren't as wide ourstreets aren't as wide, and
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inside of the documents for ourhoa, it explicitly says no cars
can park on the street that'scorrect now you're allowed a
24-hour reprieve like anovernight guest or something
like that but that
David Crocker (22:57):
car cannot remain there for any amount of time.
So, if you think about it, youcan have a maximum of four cars
total.
If you really are smart aboutit, that means you have nothing
in your garage.
Two cars in your garage, twocars in your driveway.
Yet how many times do we seethese homes where there's two
and three cars out front of thathouse, some of them parked in
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the opposite direction?
Oh yeah, that's a that's anagainst the law period.
Steven Killfoil (23:22):
but it's exactly here's the caveat to
that.
We uh, and we went back andforth between the representative
for Essex and me oh no,crossroads is responsible for
the streets, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Then I'd call the city.
Hey, our HOA says you guys areresponsible.
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Oh no, it is a private road.
You are responsible for yourstreets.
And it was just back and forth.
So finally I said okay,enough's enough.
What is it?
Do you guys own us?
Are we a city public street orare we a private street?
And I finally got theconfirmation we are a private
street, both sides little L andcrossroads.
David Crocker (24:08):
That's good information to know.
I think a lot of neighbors,including myself, weren't fully
aware of that.
Steven Killfoil (24:13):
Yes, well, you know what that means.
David Crocker (24:15):
Right, as an HOA, we can enforce the towing, we
don't even have to give them anotice If they're on the street
and they're parked on the streetand they have a driveway and it
has an opening spot and they'renot parking in there.
Steven Killfoil (24:31):
We can tow their damn car.
David Crocker (24:34):
So I'm going to tell you a thing that's
concerned me greatly.
There's kids all over ourneighborhood and I love the fact
that kids can grow up here, gettogether here spend time with
each other.
That's wonderful.
What scares the heck out of meis when I see kids playing in
the front yard and there arevehicles parked on the street
and a car comes flying downspecifically.
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It's one big straight street andI've seen kids and a soccer
ball or a bicycle or any toy,whatever it is, come in between
cars and into the street and, ifgod anything were to happen,
that's an absolute catastropheand I don't want that to happen
at all.
Me either I don't believe weneed gates.
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The cost with gates would beastronomical maintenance
insurance.
Steven Killfoil (25:24):
Actually believe it or not.
Those gates aren't thatexpensive I priced them out.
I priced them out.
They're not that expensive.
David Crocker (25:32):
I think we're going to differ on that one and
that's okay, just for me it'sthe insurance, it's the
maintenance, it's the things gowrong.
God forbid somebody hits thatgate.
Now we have one less way.
You and I both know, onalamandine there are three exits
right, yeah, there's two on aprobe and there's one right,
reserite ganite and then overrunfish trap.
That's it where the street ends.
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If one of those or two of those, if anything were to happen to
the gate from there and therewas an emergency not us getting
out but emergency vehiclesgetting in, if there was a fire,
if there was any kind of issue,the fire, station or the the
emergency vehicle services theyhave.
Steven Killfoil (26:14):
Uh, they have an electronic device that can
open any, anything.
It's like a master.
David Crocker (26:20):
That's wonderful that's wonderful, that's not.
That would also drive the hoacost up, and to me a speed bump
is a one and done thing, andputting some asphalt in there's
a whole lot cheaper than a gate.
Well, they're not going to letus.
Steven Killfoil (26:31):
I don't think anybody's going to fly neither
city's going to allow us to putuh speed bumps because it wrecks
their vehicles.
If they have a call and theyhave to come down there and they
have to drive over five, six,it, it's hard on their emergency
vehicles.
Well.
So you know, it's like speedbumps aren't gonna happen.
David Crocker (26:50):
I already looked into that rather, I would rather
their vehicle have to slow downbriefly in an emergency
situation.
I think one extra second it'snot going to change anything but
that one extra second from someYahoo driving down the road
that might mow down a child.
I would rather be safe thansorry.
Yeah, I a hundred percent agree.
Steven Killfoil (27:13):
Yeah, we got to .
We've got to figure out a wayand I've talked to Jennifer
about this those posted limitswe're well within our purview to
put posted speed limit signs upespecially if it's a private
road um, they have them inprovidence village.
They're, they're lit up and theypost.
They're great.
They make people aware thatpeople slow down.
They really do so.
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They work, they're effectiveand they're not that expensive.
And then I can't seem toconvince jennifer of this hey
look, they're not that expensive.
And then I can't seem toconvince Jennifer of this hey
look, they're not that expensive.
I used.
I come from a procurementbackground, so I know how to.
I can find.
I've got connections all overthe Yazuga for construction and
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signage and you name it, I canfind it and I can get us a
really good rate and price.
David Crocker (28:01):
So that's excellent to know and signs
today, especially withillumination oh yeah battery and
solar.
So it's.
Steven Killfoil (28:08):
It doesn't even need power, it's precisely
those are all solar powered,those ones in providence village
, I'd say they.
They probably run about uh two,two to five hundred, probably.
That that's a rough, goodestimate, and they're
programmable.
So it's easy once you put themin, boom, they're there and uh,
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that would help a lot indeterring some of these speeders
, you know and hey, if, uh, ifone of the crossroads policemen
happen to be perusing throughthe neighborhood and some
jackass is driving 35 and thespeed limit posted in there is
25, he has the full legal rightto pull them over and write them
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a ticket.
David Crocker (28:53):
That's correct.
So you know the posted or thenon.
It's not posted, but the actualspeed limit.
I understood it to be 30.
Is that true or is it 25?
Steven Killfoil (29:05):
It's 30.
David Crocker (29:07):
That's still too fast, that's still too fast.
For as narrow as these streetsare.
Steven Killfoil (29:11):
that's too fast I think 25 through a
neighborhood is a safe speed.
David Crocker (29:16):
It's such a small neighborhood that that extra
five miles an hour is not goingto change when you arrive
somewhere.
Steven Killfoil (29:24):
No, not at all, it's just not no, but I think
25, because that's what it is inProvidence Village it's 25.
In fact, during school it dropsdown to 15.
David Crocker (29:34):
That's right.
Their signs will say 15.
The moment you enter thatneighborhood, they have a sign
stating the school zone speedlimit, before they state the
other speed limit, which youknow what.
That's actually very smart, yes, because not everybody pays
attention.
Steven Killfoil (29:49):
We could do the exact same thing in our
neighborhood, and we should, andwe should.
I agree 100%.
Well, I want to thank you againfor coming on the show today.
Folks, let, let, let's, let'sall make it an effort to get out
there to that meeting on thefirst at six o'clock at the
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little hell, little elm publiclibrary, slash city hall.
Be there, or before, to seeeverybody.
Yes, please be there, let's bestraight.
The numbers.
David Crocker (30:20):
Let's look out for each.
Yes, please be there.
Let's be strength of numbers.
Let's look out for each other,absolutely.
We'll be there early ready tohelp you fill out the paperwork,
ready to get everything turnedin.
Welcome speakers, welcomepeople, just be in there.
Strength of numbers, anythingwe can do just to keep
everything we have safe, secure,and let's do something for our
neighborhood that will matter.
Steven Killfoil (30:39):
Absolutely All right, thank you.
Thank you, and you have a greatday We'll see you there as well
.
All right, bye-bye.
Okay.
For local meetings go towwwcrossroadstxgov for meeting
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times.
On Tuesday April 1st.
Also, the Planning and Zoningare meeting at 7 pm.
Wednesday April 2nd the Parksand Recreation Board is meeting
at 7 pm.
Town Council will convene onMonday April 7th at 6 pm.
The Municipal DevelopmentDistrict will meet on Thursday
April 10th at 6 pm.
The Municipal DevelopmentDistrict will meet on Thursday
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April 10th at 6 pm.
City Hall will be closed FridayApril 18th in observance of
Good Friday.
Town Council will meet again onMonday April 21st at 6 pm.
Mark your calendars forSaturday April 26th for
homeschool curriculum sale andvendor fair from 11 am to 3 pm
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at the park at 424 and Fishtrap.
And Sunday April 27th, the BossLadies will host their
community garage sale at thepark from 8 am to 12 noon.
Folks, I hope I see you at thatmeeting.
Until next week we'll have anew amazing guest.
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I'll see you at the topCrossroads Podcast.
We'll be right back.
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But those who want to be it knowwho's your daddy.
Good morning Crossroads.
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But those who want to be indialing David's number now Hello
, hey, oh, much better.
Wow, I don't know what kind offeedback loop I was getting, but
it was a doozy.
David Crocker (01:49):
So I was on speakerphone on my phone and I
don't know if that was causinganything or not.
Steven Killfoil (01:53):
That's a possibility Not, not sure, but
we got it cleared up.
Now you're coming in loud andclear and beautiful, perfect.
So good afternoon, David, andwelcome to Cross Roads Podcast.
So why don't you tell ourlisteners a little bit about
yourself and let's tackle theproblem at hand of having too
many houses and not enough roadspace?
David Crocker (02:27):
So I've been in Cross Roads.
We moved in in March of 2019.
We built out the house kind ofin the professional industry
merchant services kind of boringstuff like that Nobody likes
talking about credit cards orpaying for them, but that's the
business that I'm in on aprofessional level.
But really what we're dealingwith now is just the struggle
with adding more homes here,adding more traffic, more
potential crime, and you and Iboth have had an opportunity to
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go to the town council a coupleof times and have a chance to
talk with them and talk to thegroup, and we're trying to get
more of our neighbors involvedand get them plugged in to
really petition this newdevelopment.
There's just better use forthat area.
Steven Killfoil (03:03):
Oh, I agree 100%.
Honestly, it's really onlylarge enough for a small park
really, if the truth be told.
But there's no way in the worldthat you can cram 50 houses
into that 10-acre lot.
That's just unbelievable.
David Crocker (03:23):
Well, what's interesting is the original plan
for that development that wasapproved by the city was 50 foot
lots.
Only that's what they have thegreen light for.
They have since modified thatand I don't know if they got
approval or they didn't.
I have not been able to confirmthat.
But now they have some of thehomes that are 40-foot lots,
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which is just allowing them tocram more homes perfect word
right into that small spaceright there.
Here's my biggest concern, justnorth of that development.
So if we are on Oak Grove northof 380 and south of Fishtrap,
in that kind of what would youcall that, that northeast corner
, right there there's CanineCowboy and they're selling,
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obviously because that farm isgone.
But right behind Canine Cowboyis that new development that's
already been built.
And what's wild is thatdevelopment is rental only and,
as I understand it, approved forSection 8.
There's at least 50, 60, 70homes in that development.
It's built, they're about tostart moving people in.
Steven Killfoil (04:30):
Lovely, just what we need.
David Crocker (04:32):
Well, right.
So I mean, that's not even thedevelopment that's in question
here, that's on the radar to bebuilt, and this developer is
trying to get his way byschmoozing the council and
promising things he can'tdeliver on, which I'll get to in
a moment but we've got thatdevelopment that's pretty much
ready to go, and now thisdeveloper is trying to add more
homes a whole new developer.
(04:52):
So we're talking at least 100to 120 homes in that little tiny
sliver that used to be a farm.
Now, the biggest problem wehave right now is traffic.
Steven Killfoil (05:05):
Oh yeah, the second biggest problem we have
right now is traffic.
David Crocker (05:10):
Oh yeah, the second biggest problem we have
right now is crime.
So when we start talking aboutrental and boy, I don't want to
talk bad about people in anystretch from there, but the data
will bear out Homeowners versushome renters the higher the
rental, the more crimeopportunity exists.
That's just data, that's justnationwide, not exclusive to
where we are.
Hate to say it, but it's true.
So we have this here with thisother development that's going
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to come in, and all of us try toexit the neighborhood, either
on main, which is, if you're onthe little town side where
you're closer to Providencevillage, you can go out on main
and deal with that, but then ofcourse, there's all the
construction on 380, and that'sa nightmare.
So, most of us are going to exiton Oak Grove going south to 380
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.
Now that's a little tinytwo-lane road with that little
dog leg in it that, by the way,all of the parts of that have
kind of been worn down by peopleabusing that part of the road.
Parts of that have kind of beenworn down by people abusing
that part of the road for safety.
They have tried to do a littlebit at the 7-Eleven parking lot
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area to really be able to turnin, but nothing's really
addressed the traffic.
So now pack on these new homes.
I would assume each of thosehomes will have a minimum of one
car.
Let's assume one and a half.
That's close to 150 cars thatwe're going to be adding to the
traffic.
So what we brought up in thelast meeting was they're not
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going to address widening OakGrove until five years from now.
Steven Killfoil (06:41):
Yeah, so 2030.
David Crocker (06:44):
Right, right, we're talking 2030, right, so
we're going to have that newdevelopment that's already built
, the development that's planned, that they're going to build,
which will be done in two years.
Right, it doesn't take long toput up 50 homes, 60 homes at all
, let's assume 150 cars.
But the new development is kindof a higher end home, a higher
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price tag home.
I'm going to say there's goingto be more cars there, right?
That type of client, that typeof customer.
Usually they have more vehicles, so potentially 200 cars in the
morning.
Now, the last time you and Iwent out and tried to drive in
that morning traffic just to getout of the neighborhood, on Oak
Grove there's two spots becausewe're on the crossroad side.
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So getting out of there and ifyou're on the little M side, six
one up does the other just toget from fish trap, which is the
far north spot, even past mostof the development, to 380, will
take you a minimum of 30minutes, 30 minutes just to get
there now I can take 30 minutesfrom 380.
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Yeah, so you're aware of that.
So once I get through thatlight, I can get all the way to
Frisco in that 30 minutes.
Steven Killfoil (07:55):
But, here.
David Crocker (07:55):
I can't even get out of my development in 30
minutes.
So I'm just going to tell youright now that is an
unsustainable problem, and sothe way I look at this is why
would you build the homes first?
To me, you build all the homes,you create all the traffic now
you pile it around these twolane roads and then by 2030, you
then create construction whichis destruction first of the road
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, to then construct it the wayyou need it to be.
Construction which isdestruction first of the road,
to then construct it the way youneed it to be.
Now my logic, my brain, tellsme that's like getting dressed
in the morning, brushing yourteeth, combing your hair,
getting ready for work and thenhopping in the shower.
It's just backwards.
You've got to get the roadbuilt out first and then do that
.
I just don't want homes thereto begin with.
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But even if they're going to dothat, take care of the road
first, then we can talk aboutadding more people here.
But I would much prefer a park.
A mixed use park would be great.
We've got plenty of neighborsthat have home-based businesses.
Why don't we have events heldthere, weddings held there?
There's a lot of people thatplay soccer, that I mean.
What is the closest park?
Seven, eight minutes away orseven, eight miles away?
(09:04):
I'm sorry, not minutes, butmiles away.
Yeah, so we're.
We're a long ways away, and Iknow that tons and tons of these
neighbors would take advantageof that.
Where do our kids go to play?
The houses are already crammedtogether.
We've got that one little tinyplay area next to the pool.
Steven Killfoil (09:16):
Yeah.
David Crocker (09:16):
And I saw it.
Steven Killfoil (09:17):
I'm sorry that that's a terrible joke.
Yeah, it's full of crime.
Uh, they find drug needles inand out of the playground
equipment all the time they do.
David Crocker (09:30):
how many times have we seen on camera people
jumping into backyards of otherpeople's homes, breaking into
cars, trying to get around thetraffic?
At Opaline there's threefamilies living in one home on
the corner.
You can't even get around thecorner from there, which is a
traffic violation in and ofitself.
Steven Killfoil (09:51):
Yeah, yeah.
If you're coming and there'ssomebody else coming and you
don't see one another, you'reboth going to have to.
Well, you'll either collide oryou're both going to have to
stop, but there's nowhere topull over or back up, because
both sides are full of cars.
David Crocker (10:10):
And a lot of times there are trucks on that
corner and you know a truck sitshigher up.
Many of these passenger carssit down low the ability to see
around that corner safely, andsome people are newer drivers,
younger drivers, inexperienceddrivers.
It's an accident waiting tohappen.
It's not that it may happen, itwill happen.
It's just a matter of time.
Absolutely yeah.
Steven Killfoil (10:31):
It's great.
Well, I've actually seen acouple of instances where people
they've had their truck parkedon the side of the road in front
of their house and people havecome along and have just
literally knocked the mirror offof the truck with their car.
David Crocker (10:48):
I remember talking to that person when that
happened to his truck.
And it was an amazing thingthat just somebody kept driving.
I don't understand it.
I just don't understand it keptdriving.
Steven Killfoil (11:00):
Uh, I, I don't understand it.
I just don't understand it.
And from experience I can tellyou, I, I was coming down el
dorado.
Just I just crossed from lakedallas and this big old cdw, uh
trash truck uh pushed me off tothe side of the road and I ran
into some of those pylons andone of those pylons knocked my
mirror clean off my car.
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Luckily it was held on by thethe wire and uh, I, just, you
know, I, I couldn't, I couldn't,um, I, I had to just uh come
home, uh tape it up to the carand order a mirror.
You know it cost me 80 bucks.
I changed it out myself.
It probably would have cost alot more if I'd had the mechanic
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do it, but luckily it was afairly easy fix.
But I shouldn't have had tohave done that.
No, and you shouldn't have ityou know, the guy, just I mean,
he just rammed me, he didn'teven think twice and then he
turned left and I had to keepgoing straight because it was
rush hour traffic and I wishedI'd gotten license plate of that
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of that guy.
You know, I just.
David Crocker (12:05):
Would have been helpful, you know.
I'll tell you something elsetoo.
That happened on fish trap justa couple of months ago when
they were getting close to mostof the homes being done, but
there was still quite a bit ofconstruction on that rental
development that's already builtnow.
One of the 18 wheelers was onfish trap.
Now there is a weight limit andthere are signs posted all up
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and down fish trap beginning at377, basically where you're
going to access that to get tothis area, and it says truck's
over a certain weight notallowed on this road.
Well, when you have an18-wheeler loaded with lumber,
they're taking that road because380 is under construction.
They can't maneuver, they can'tget on main because 380, again
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was broken apart.
So this was really the only waythey could get that lumber to
that development Do you rememberthat truck, that it basically
jackknifed at the corner of OakGrove and Fishtrap.
It tipped over to its righttrying to take a right turn to
go south on Oak Grove.
Lumber, went everywhere andthat intersection was absolutely
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destroyed.
Steven Killfoil (13:13):
It was shut down, yeah totally shut down.
David Crocker (13:17):
And at the worst possible time.
So, now we're going to havemore development, more homes and
more replication of that exactsame problem.
I am not for it.
Steven Killfoil (13:29):
Yeah, me either .
I 100% agree.
I will be at that meeting, andthose of you that are out there
listening, that meeting takesplace on Tuesday, april 1st
April Fool's Day, great.
So at 6 pm at Little Elm CityHall.
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You just go down El Dorado andyou turn right into the parking
lot right where the fire stationis and park your car back there
and walk into the city hall andlot right where the fire
station is and park your carback there and walk into the
city hall and that's where themeeting will be.
I'm definitely going to bethere for that one, but yeah I
will too.
David Crocker (14:08):
It'll be the third one in a row and, uh boy,
the last time you spoke it was avery impassioned speech and I
was about ready to get up andcheer, but the rules tell you
you can't do that.
Right?
For anybody that needs thephysical address, it's 100 El
Dorado Parkway.
It's actually inside thelibrary.
So if it's your first timegoing to the town hall and you
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get there and you say I don'tsee a building, go inside the
library's main entrance, gostraight back, and that's where
you'll have the town hall.
Arrive early If you can getthere about 10 minutes early and
you want to speak we encourageyou to speak.
We'll be there to help you fillout a form.
There is a specific form thatyou fill out.
It tells you what you'reprotesting.
You just give them your basicinformation and then that gets
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turned in to the clerk and thenthey will call your name.
If you don't want to speak, westill want you there.
We still need you there.
We need strength in numbers.
The first time that we met andwere at this, the vote was five
to one.
Four right, so five to one.
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We're for this development.
The second time we showed upwith some more impassioned
speeches.
More people showed up.
We got the vote to a deadlock3-3.
So we're making traction andthis is the last chance for us
to get this.
If we don't get this, it's agreen light for this development
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and there's nothing we can doabout it, so, folks, I
absolutely encourage everybody.
please show up and speak, orjust show up and fill out the
form and let them know thatyou're against this.
That counts just as well.
Not everybody's comfortable,Stephen, like you or I, to get
up and speak in front of a crowdTotally okay.
Steven Killfoil (15:55):
Just be there now.
I'm a distinguished toastmaster, so I got over my fear of
speeching.
Just be there now.
I'm a distinguished Toastmaster, so I got over my fear of
speeching.
Anybody that wants toaccomplish that, I encourage you
to join a Toastmasters club.
You won't regret it.
It'll be the best number offriends you ever make in your
lifetime.
So I always promoteToastmasters all the time.
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I mean I both my wife and Iwent into it together and we
just had a wonderful time.
So yes, you're you're right, I'mnot afraid to get up and talk.
David Crocker (16:30):
My current line of work, like I said, in in the
kind of the credit card world.
I'm actually a sales trainer inthat industry and I remember
when I first became a salestrainer I was kind of nervous
about talking in public.
Now I've spoken in front ofgroups of thousands.
Just give me a mic and watchout, and I just want to
encourage people.
If you're not comfortablespeaking, let us speak for you.
Give us the notes that you want.
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In fact, on both of theFacebook pages for the
neighborhood, the regular pageand the unfiltered page for the
neighborhood, the regular pageand the unfiltered page yes, we
have a post that's been reposteda number of times.
I'm the admin of the unfilteredpage, so I'll put that on there
and pin that today.
Comment on there what you wantto share, what you want to say
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that you can attend, on eitherone or both of the pages.
Let us get a running start forthis on Tuesday.
Steven Killfoil (17:19):
Absolutely.
I 100% agree, and I think theyhave a very good town council,
from what I could see the firsttime when I went there and I met
them.
Little Elm as a whole is apretty amazing city.
My wife and I have both had thepleasure of participating in
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the Little Elm Fire Department'sCitizens Academy.
If anybody listening, if youwould like an opportunity to
find out what exactly those menand women do, join that fire
academy.
It's worth it and it's a lot offun.
We met a great bunch of folksand what I could see when I
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attended this uh the firstmeeting when you were there, uh,
the city council listens.
They, they listen to the people.
That's clear.
I mean, obviously we got athree to three tie from a five
to one in favor, so they thereare, they are listening to us,
um, so hopefully this round uhwill be the nail in the coffin
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and put the axe to thedevelopment and who knows, maybe
, maybe we'll have us a littlepark to get developed there.
I'm all for that.
A park would be an amazingasset to have right there in the
middle of our communities.
I mean, it would definitely beused by far hands down.
David Crocker (18:42):
I'm sure it would be.
It's a family area.
There's all families that livehere.
I envision a lot of commercethere.
I envision food trucks going inthere.
Just the other day Cousin'sMain Lobster was at HTO, which
was great, but that's right on380.
There's a ton of traffic.
Imagine having the food truckson a weekend.
Steven Killfoil (19:02):
Imagine having events on a weekend.
David Crocker (19:04):
Imagine sporting events there.
Imagine renting out somethingto where maybe you want to have
photographs taken of your familyor your kids as they graduate.
Absolutely Anything like that.
A small playground for the kids, anything, the trees that can
remain on the southern border.
So those folks that live therenow that's the big deal is the
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folks that live on that northside, that border, the southern
area of that construction, thisdeveloper has said well, I'm
going to put two-story homesthere and I've got to knock the
trees down to do that, whichmeans those two-story homes can
look into the backyard of thosenorth neighbors, and that is not
acceptable.
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Even when pressed by thecouncil, that developer said I
cannot commit to not putting atwo-story home.
Maybe and he intentionally usedthe word maybe, I pay attention
Maybe we can put homes therethat don't have a window in the
upstairs.
That wasn't a commitment, thatwas something to get that
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council to potentially agree.
So here's something that thatdeveloper said too.
He said, and I quote I canguarantee there will be no
rental homes in this development.
Now, stephen, you and I bothbought here, we built here.
We know what the rules are whenwe bought mine's a home we
heard yeah, mine's a lunar too.
Steven Killfoil (20:27):
We built ours in 2018 and we were told the
same lie by the nar oh no, therewon't be any rentals.
Oh no, there won't be any carson the streets.
Oh no, there won't be any carson the street.
Oh no, there won't be any.
Section eight oh no, all a bigfat lie.
David Crocker (20:43):
And this developer said that to appease
the council.
I watched the council nod inagreement oh, that's right,
there won't be any rental.
So that was in the firstmeeting.
In the second meeting I calledthat developer out very politely
but I reminded the council.
Do you remember last time wewere here and the developer said
to you I won't allow rentalshere.
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Can you show me how thatdeveloper can commit to that?
Because once that home is soldand there is a homeowner there,
there is nothing in that salescontract from a developer who
may.
He said that for your benefit.
That's what I told the council,so he can get his way.
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I'm not going to say that helied, but I will say that that
was not a true statement.
Absolutely, and I watched everyhead on that council, not up and
down.
Oh my goodness, I can't believewe fell for that health of that
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.
Steven Killfoil (21:58):
From a legal standpoint, no entity can say
that section 8 cannot be, orrentals, because it's against
the state laws, correct?
So, yeah, you're caught betweena rock and a hard place.
And the whole reason I moved uphere was because I lived in a
neighborhood in Irving, texas,that looked like a used car lot
that had five, six, seven, eightfamilies living inside of a
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single family home and nine, 10,11, 12 cars parked all up and
down the streets both sides.
But those streets were wideenough that you could drive both
ways and still have cars parkedon the side of the street.
So it wasn't too bad, it justwas an eyesore and you don't
have that luxury here.
No, streets aren't as wide ourstreets aren't as wide, and
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inside of the documents for ourhoa, it explicitly says no cars
can park on the street that'scorrect now you're allowed a
24-hour reprieve like anovernight guest or something
like that but that
David Crocker (22:57):
car cannot remain there for any amount of time.
So, if you think about it, youcan have a maximum of four cars
total.
If you really are smart aboutit, that means you have nothing
in your garage.
Two cars in your garage, twocars in your driveway.
Yet how many times do we seethese homes where there's two
and three cars out front of thathouse, some of them parked in
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the opposite direction?
Oh yeah, that's a that's anagainst the law period.
Steven Killfoil (23:22):
but it's exactly here's the caveat to
that.
We uh, and we went back andforth between the representative
for Essex and me oh no,crossroads is responsible for
the streets, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Then I'd call the city.
Hey, our HOA says you guys areresponsible.
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Oh no, it is a private road.
You are responsible for yourstreets.
And it was just back and forth.
So finally I said okay,enough's enough.
What is it?
Do you guys own us?
Are we a city public street orare we a private street?
And I finally got theconfirmation we are a private
street, both sides little L andcrossroads.
David Crocker (24:08):
That's good information to know.
I think a lot of neighbors,including myself, weren't fully
aware of that.
Steven Killfoil (24:13):
Yes, well, you know what that means.
David Crocker (24:15):
Right, as an HOA, we can enforce the towing, we
don't even have to give them anotice If they're on the street
and they're parked on the streetand they have a driveway and it
has an opening spot and they'renot parking in there.
Steven Killfoil (24:31):
We can tow their damn car.
David Crocker (24:34):
So I'm going to tell you a thing that's
concerned me greatly.
There's kids all over ourneighborhood and I love the fact
that kids can grow up here, gettogether here spend time with
each other.
That's wonderful.
What scares the heck out of meis when I see kids playing in
the front yard and there arevehicles parked on the street
and a car comes flying downspecifically.
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It's one big straight street andI've seen kids and a soccer
ball or a bicycle or any toy,whatever it is, come in between
cars and into the street and, ifgod anything were to happen,
that's an absolute catastropheand I don't want that to happen
at all.
Me either I don't believe weneed gates.
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The cost with gates would beastronomical maintenance
insurance.
Steven Killfoil (25:24):
Actually believe it or not.
Those gates aren't thatexpensive I priced them out.
I priced them out.
They're not that expensive.
David Crocker (25:32):
I think we're going to differ on that one and
that's okay, just for me it'sthe insurance, it's the
maintenance, it's the things gowrong.
God forbid somebody hits thatgate.
Now we have one less way.
You and I both know, onalamandine there are three exits
right, yeah, there's two on aprobe and there's one right,
reserite ganite and then overrunfish trap.
That's it where the street ends.
(25:52):
If one of those or two of those, if anything were to happen to
the gate from there and therewas an emergency not us getting
out but emergency vehiclesgetting in, if there was a fire,
if there was any kind of issue,the fire, station or the the
emergency vehicle services theyhave.
Steven Killfoil (26:14):
Uh, they have an electronic device that can
open any, anything.
It's like a master.
David Crocker (26:20):
That's wonderful that's wonderful, that's not.
That would also drive the hoacost up, and to me a speed bump
is a one and done thing, andputting some asphalt in there's
a whole lot cheaper than a gate.
Well, they're not going to letus.
Steven Killfoil (26:31):
I don't think anybody's going to fly neither
city's going to allow us to putuh speed bumps because it wrecks
their vehicles.
If they have a call and theyhave to come down there and they
have to drive over five, six,it, it's hard on their emergency
vehicles.
Well.
So you know, it's like speedbumps aren't gonna happen.
David Crocker (26:50):
I already looked into that rather, I would rather
their vehicle have to slow downbriefly in an emergency
situation.
I think one extra second it'snot going to change anything but
that one extra second from someYahoo driving down the road
that might mow down a child.
I would rather be safe thansorry.
Yeah, I a hundred percent agree.
Steven Killfoil (27:13):
Yeah, we got to .
We've got to figure out a wayand I've talked to Jennifer
about this those posted limitswe're well within our purview to
put posted speed limit signs upespecially if it's a private
road um, they have them inprovidence village.
They're, they're lit up and theypost.
They're great.
They make people aware thatpeople slow down.
They really do so.
(27:34):
They work, they're effectiveand they're not that expensive.
And then I can't seem toconvince jennifer of this hey
look, they're not that expensive.
And then I can't seem toconvince Jennifer of this hey
look, they're not that expensive.
I used.
I come from a procurementbackground, so I know how to.
I can find.
I've got connections all overthe Yazuga for construction and
(27:55):
signage and you name it, I canfind it and I can get us a
really good rate and price.
David Crocker (28:01):
So that's excellent to know and signs
today, especially withillumination oh yeah battery and
solar.
So it's.
Steven Killfoil (28:08):
It doesn't even need power, it's precisely
those are all solar powered,those ones in providence village
, I'd say they.
They probably run about uh two,two to five hundred, probably.
That that's a rough, goodestimate, and they're
programmable.
So it's easy once you put themin, boom, they're there and uh,
(28:31):
that would help a lot indeterring some of these speeders
, you know and hey, if, uh, ifone of the crossroads policemen
happen to be perusing throughthe neighborhood and some
jackass is driving 35 and thespeed limit posted in there is
25, he has the full legal rightto pull them over and write them
(28:52):
a ticket.
David Crocker (28:53):
That's correct.
So you know the posted or thenon.
It's not posted, but the actualspeed limit.
I understood it to be 30.
Is that true or is it 25?
Steven Killfoil (29:05):
It's 30.
David Crocker (29:07):
That's still too fast, that's still too fast.
For as narrow as these streetsare.
Steven Killfoil (29:11):
that's too fast I think 25 through a
neighborhood is a safe speed.
David Crocker (29:16):
It's such a small neighborhood that that extra
five miles an hour is not goingto change when you arrive
somewhere.
Steven Killfoil (29:24):
No, not at all, it's just not no, but I think
25, because that's what it is inProvidence Village it's 25.
In fact, during school it dropsdown to 15.
David Crocker (29:34):
That's right.
Their signs will say 15.
The moment you enter thatneighborhood, they have a sign
stating the school zone speedlimit, before they state the
other speed limit, which youknow what.
That's actually very smart, yes, because not everybody pays
attention.
Steven Killfoil (29:49):
We could do the exact same thing in our
neighborhood, and we should, andwe should.
I agree 100%.
Well, I want to thank you againfor coming on the show today.
Folks, let, let, let's, let'sall make it an effort to get out
there to that meeting on thefirst at six o'clock at the
(30:10):
little hell, little elm publiclibrary, slash city hall.
Be there, or before, to seeeverybody.
Yes, please be there, let's bestraight.
The numbers.
David Crocker (30:20):
Let's look out for each.
Yes, please be there.
Let's be strength of numbers.
Let's look out for each other,absolutely.
We'll be there early ready tohelp you fill out the paperwork,
ready to get everything turnedin.
Welcome speakers, welcomepeople, just be in there.
Strength of numbers, anythingwe can do just to keep
everything we have safe, secure,and let's do something for our
neighborhood that will matter.
Steven Killfoil (30:39):
Absolutely All right, thank you.
Thank you, and you have a greatday We'll see you there as well
.
All right, bye-bye.
Okay.
For local meetings go towwwcrossroadstxgov for meeting
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times.
On Tuesday April 1st.
Also, the Planning and Zoningare meeting at 7 pm.
Wednesday April 2nd the Parksand Recreation Board is meeting
at 7 pm.
Town Council will convene onMonday April 7th at 6 pm.
The Municipal DevelopmentDistrict will meet on Thursday
April 10th at 6 pm.
The Municipal DevelopmentDistrict will meet on Thursday
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April 10th at 6 pm.
City Hall will be closed FridayApril 18th in observance of
Good Friday.
Town Council will meet again onMonday April 21st at 6 pm.
Mark your calendars forSaturday April 26th for
homeschool curriculum sale andvendor fair from 11 am to 3 pm
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at the park at 424 and Fishtrap.
And Sunday April 27th, the BossLadies will host their
community garage sale at thepark from 8 am to 12 noon.
Folks, I hope I see you at thatmeeting.
Until next week we'll have anew amazing guest.
(32:02):
I'll see you at the topCrossroads Podcast.
We'll be right back.
(33:06):
But those who want to be it knowwho's your daddy.
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