Beyond Genetics: How Your Toxin Bucket Affects Chronic Illness

In this episode, we dive deep into the "toxin bucket" theory and explore how managing your daily exposures might be your best defense against chronic illness. We discuss epigenetics—the idea that while you can't change your genes, you can influence whether they "turn on" and lead to disease.

Join us for a room-by-room tour of hidden toxins in your home, from paint and flooring to personal care products and cleaning supplies. We'll talk about your body's natural detox systems (liver, spleen, colon, and more) and practical ways to support them.

Chapters: 

00:00 Welcome to Crunchy Stewardship

00:38 Random Revelation of the Week: Contagion Theory

09:47 Deep Dive: The Toxin Bucket

32:50 Identifying Toxins in Everyday Life

33:52 Detoxifying Your Home: Room by Room

46:38 Practical Tips for Reducing Toxins

Resources Mentioned:

🎙️ Wise Traditions Podcast (Mark Gober on contagion theory)

• Episode on Contagion Theory https://open.spotify.com/episode/48c0a838pJ6lxv495o8cNx?si=yrQUKii_QXqeFx96Y3zIiA
• His Book: An End to Upside Down Medicine: https://amzn.to/49vnw2d 
• The Weston A. Price Foundation: https://www.westonaprice.org/

🎨 ECOS Paints (Low/Zero VOC Paint)

• Website: https://www.ecospaints.net/

🧼 Dr. Bronner's (Natural Soap Alternatives)

• Hand Soap: https://amzn.to/3JvFPd9 
• Bar Soap: https://amzn.to/4qBX655 

Key Takeaways:

• Your toxin bucket represents your body's total toxic load
• Focus on what you can control: food, personal care products, and cleaning supplies
• Support your body's natural detox organs
• Small switches make a big impact over time

Remember: You can't eliminate every toxin, and that's okay! Your body is designed to detox. Start with easy wins and don't let overwhelm stop you from taking action.

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Episode Transcript

Chrissy (00:00):
Hello and welcome to Crunchy Stewardship.

(00:02):
My name is Chrissy Roach.

Katie (00:04):
And my name is Katie Fiola Jones.
We are two cousins who arepassionate about learning and
sharing knowledge to equipothers to steward their
spiritual, mental, emotional,financial, and physical health
to honor God in every aspect oftheir lives.

Chrissy (00:19):
In our podcast, we take deep dives into what it means to
steward our lives as Godoriginally intended for us with
the resources that he's alreadygiven us.
We look at topics like food,medicine, finances, mental
health, and tons more through anatural lens and with a biblical
foundation.

Katie (00:38):
Now it is time for our random revelation of the week.
In this segment, one of usshares something that we've
learned this week that issomething kind of crunchy it
doesn't often have to do withthe topic that we are going to
be discussing.
this week, Chrissy is going tobe sharing her random revelation

(01:02):
of the week.
Chrissy, what have you, randomlyreveled.
Is that a word?

Chrissy (01:07):
I don't know.
Um, yeah, so this week I waslistening to a podcast while I
was driving, and this podcast inparticular was sharing about the
theory that contagion is notreal.
And I think that's a littlecrazy, but the, the whole

(01:28):
premise that this guy was goingoff on.
Was the fact that, you know, youthink of a quote unquote super
spreader party, uh, back fromCOVID.
You know, everybody goes to aparty and then everybody ends up
with COVID at the end of thenight or the next morning or
something like that.
His theory is that rather thanthere being a patient zero that

(01:51):
everybody caught this illnessfrom, instead this illness is
rather acquired through a toxinor something in the air,
something in the water,something that was touched at
the party.
Um, and that like the source isnot patient zero, but rather

(02:15):
something that was already therethat each person was then
exposed to.
Um, I personally think that's alittle crazy.
I agree with the patient zerostandpoint that.
Somebody's sick and you'rearound them, you will get sick.
How many times have I beenbabysitting and the child

(02:36):
sneezed on my face, and then thenext morning I wake up with a
stuffy nose.
I'm like, well, I know exactlywhere that came from, you know?
Or like last week for instance,crazy enough, I listened to this
podcast like literally the weekmy entire small group got sick.
We had small group last week andone girl came and, well,
obviously everybody came, butone girl in particular had a

(02:58):
little bit of a scratchy throatand a stuffy nose, and she was
coughing during small group andwe were all just like, oh man,
that sucks.
Feel better, you know?
But then literally over theweekend, all the rest of us got
sick.
And this week for small groupthree people were out because
they were sick and.
So I just have to wonder like,hmm.

(03:20):
Like we've all been in thisenvironment all together before
the environment had not changedand yet the consequences of
being in said environmentchanged.
So I think patient Zero is stillthe right way to go.
This guy, when he was talking,he said when he started this

(03:43):
research, he thought, thoughtthe idea was so outlandish, he
would have to convince himselfbecause he didn't actually
believe it, and now he's fullyconvinced and he is written a
book.
Do you know the name of thebook?
I don't know the name of thebook.

Katie (03:55):
Um, no, I honestly, heard of this only a few times talked
about by other people.
Um, so I'm not like super, superfamiliar with it myself.
I'll have to definitely checkthat out.
Do you wanna share what thepodcast was that you listened to
it on?

Chrissy (04:11):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if you're interested and youwant to listen to the podcast,
it's uh, wise Traditions podcastnumber 500 something, something
in the five hundreds.
And it pretty much talks about,uh, contagion.
Like contagion isn't real.

(04:32):
Um, so yeah, go to WiseTraditions, listen to that
podcast.
Let us know what you think aboutthat, because I still think it's
crazy, but

Katie (04:41):
It's interesting.

Chrissy (04:42):
know.

Katie (04:42):
really, really like wise traditions in like for a lot of
things.
They have a lot of really greatwisdom about, uh, food and like
natural eating and whole fooddiets, kind of like what we've
been talking about.
They, wise Traditions is a partof like the Western, a Price
Foundation, which kind of talksa lot about all of these whole

(05:04):
Foods.
I've mentioned them before.
Also listened to an episode ontheir podcast.
It was actually from a whileago.
Um, it's while I've been doingresearch about water filters and
water filtration systems, uh,since we bought this house that
we have now.
And I wanna put in a really goodwater filtration system because
we live in a heavily farmed areawith lots and lots of pesticides

(05:29):
and we have a well in ourbackyard.
And so, um, we're, we're wantingto get out any pesticide residue
and, and anything else.
So I went through and searchedtheir podcast for anything that
they had on the topic of waterand water safety and water
filtration.
I listened to a few of them.
They were really good.
And then I came across thisepisode.

(05:49):
That was probably one of thestrangest things I've heard, but
now I've been seeing and hearinga little bit more about it.
And it's like.
I, I was trying to explain it tomy dad and I literally, it's
like one of those things where Iwas like, I started sounded
crazy.
So there's the idea that you canfilter out your water from all
the bad residues in it, youknow, fluoride, if you're in the

(06:12):
city, like in with city waterand chlorine, um, pesticide
residue, pharmaceuticalresidues, you know, all this
stuff.
You can take out all the badstuff.
However, your water might stillnot have like the right charge
to it.
And there's like this wholething of like the water
structure that is completelyinvisible to your eye.

(06:35):
And you would never know whenyou like look at a glass of
water, whether it has this, theright molecular structure or
not.
But there's this whole idea oflike charging the water and it's
like this idea of like livingwater and that the water is
alive and it carries memoriesand.
literally, she was going, Idon't even remember who this

(06:57):
girl was.
She was going all into it and itjust sounded so strange.
And even the way she talkedabout it was like the water and
it needs to be in a specific wayso that you have this, it has
this memory to give you goodthings.
And if you speak to the water,good things, will be good for

(07:19):
you if you tell it.
Thank you.
And I was like, what?
I'm not gonna speak to my water.
But there was, I've been seeingmore scientific evidence, like
backing this up just slightlyand it's like, there's not a lot
out there.
yeah, if you look up like waterstructure or something.

Chrissy (07:35):
Science, wait.
Scientific evidence.
About encouragement towards yourwater,

Katie (07:40):
necessarily talking to your water, but that water holds

Chrissy (07:44):
like the charge.

Katie (07:45):
because it's like, it's charge, it's, it's really odd,
honestly, but it.
It kind of like, it sounds woowoo in the sense that like,
yeah, you wanna go stand on thegrass to get like the energy,
basically the, the charges fromthe earth.
So in a sense I'm like, I, Ikind of, I can kind of see she's

(08:06):
coming from, but I think the waythat she was speaking about it
really threw me off because itwas her voice that was like, the
water and it's living.
And I'm like, ugh.

Chrissy (08:17):
So I could definitely understand like the negative
ions, positive ions.
You know, your body ispositively charged.
You want water that's negativelycharged in order to balance out
the charge in your body.
Like that makes sense.
But the whole, like, water has amemory thing, like that's woo
woo,

Katie (08:36):
So.

Chrissy (08:37):
and we, we sound borderline woo woo sometimes on
this podcast, but that is woowoo.

Katie (08:44):
It was pretty strange.
So there's apparently like waterfilters that put in this charge
so that water has the rightcharge to it, and then it's
considered.
Like living water, which also Iwas like, I don't know how I
feel about that because Jesus isliving water, So anyway, I, I
don't know where I stand withit, but my point is that with

(09:05):
that podcast, with WiseTraditions, I have often come
across many really awesomeepisodes and a lot of really
good content.
But then there's occasionally anepisode or so where I'm like,
what this is, so like who are,who is this person talking?
You know, they have just somestrange guests, but I mean, as
Chrissy mentioned, the episodeshe listened to is like episode

(09:25):
500 and something, something.
So you think like at a certainpoint there's only so many
people you could have on to talkabout all these things and new,
like bringing new ideas and newthings to the table I'm sure
occasionally they have to bringon some people that are a little
bit like there in order to keepgoing.
I don't know, that's just mythought.

Chrissy (09:45):
That's.
But anyways, let's talk abouttoday something that's not
completely out there.
Um, not totally woo woo, butsomething that makes a lot more
sense.
And so today's topic, we aregoing to be talking about the
toxin bucket.
Essentially taking a step backfrom all of the nitty gritty,

(10:09):
clean this, clean that make mylife toxin free.
We're gonna take a step back andlook at our lives from a zoomed
out perspective to say, okay,what have I ex, what kind of
toxins have I exposed my body toin the last year?
And to kind of help us see whatare some parts of our toxin

(10:32):
defense that we need to ramp upand what parts of our toxin
defense are doing really well?
And so this is, this episode isjust gonna be talking about the
places in your life where youreceive toxins.
And let me tell you, they areeverywhere.
And so there is absolutely by nomeans any way that anybody can

(10:58):
get rid of every toxin in theirlife, even if they live on a
homestead 50 miles from thenearest neighbor, like you still
can't do it.
It is not possible.
So, um, with that I want you tobe encouraged by this episode
rather than, discouraged by thisepisode because yes, they are

(11:18):
all around us.
But be encouraged that we'regoing to help you identify what
those toxins are so that um, youcan have a clear direction and a
goal towards.
That you're working towards inyour, um, process in becoming
healthier, so.

Katie (11:38):
Yeah, the toxin bucket can be super overwhelming.
And honestly, the way that Ilike to think of the, the toxin
bucket is the way to observeyour chances of a chronic

(11:59):
illness.
So let me explain that becauseI'm like, I'm hesitating as I
say this because I'm not sayingthat if you completely eliminate
all these toxins, then you willnever get a chronic illness.
But rather, if you are reallytrying to go on a journey of
living as toxin-free as possiblein order to stay healthy and

(12:23):
stay away from things likecancers or any other like
autoimmune disorders, like thisis probably.
From, from my research and myunderstanding from all the books
that I've read is like, this isthe best way to do it.
Actually the phrase that I wannashare today is epigenetics.
I, we may have talked aboutepigenetics in the past, but for

(12:45):
a quick refresh on whatepigenetics is, is basically we
are all born with a certain setof genetics that we've received
from the generations ahead ofus, specifically our parents and
our grandparents.
You know, we, everybody knowsabout genetics, we've learned
about them in school, geneticsare like the gun that you have.

(13:10):
Um, and gun is not necessarilydangerous, but it's what you
load into the gun and whether ornot you actually pull the
trigger or anything.
So.
If you want to make sure thatthe gun pointing at you isn't
going to shoot you and kill you,you want to not load it with all

(13:31):
the toxins that will cause yourgenetics to spur out of control
and cause some kind of cancer orsomething like that.
Cancer's probably the easiestlike chronic illness to pick on
because so many of us know itand so many of us understand
that there does, like ourgenetics play a role in that
oftentimes.

(13:52):
And so you may have good or badgenetics from your parents or
your grandparents.
You know everybody in yourbloodline, you can work as hard
as you can in order to try toavoid that illness that they
suffered from.
If you live a as best as youcan, a toxin-free lifestyle.

(14:15):
Again, Chrissy mentioned it isimpossible to be a hundred
percent.
Toxin free because it's in ourair, it's in our water, it's in
our food.
Um, even stress is one of these,like chronic, um, or one of
these toxins that we're going totalk through.
Um, and so you can even bring onthose toxins yourself.
It's not always necessarily inyour environment.

(14:37):
So my whole is that this isprobably from my understanding
of all the books and all thepodcasts I've listened to and
everything, is probably the bestway to fight against chronic
illnesses.
And this is extremely importantfor those who maybe do have.

(14:59):
A poor set of genes.
If your parents before yousuffered from, um, different
cancers or high blood pressureor, um, different autoimmune
disorders or just like any,anything that you've seen them
suffer with chronically and youmaybe even saw your grandparents
suffer with those same thingsand maybe your aunts and uncles

(15:20):
suffer with those same things,your job is to try to live as
toxin free as possible so thatway the genetics that you were
given don't on to create thatchronic illness in yourself.
Um, I know that this kind ofsounds controversial because a

(15:41):
lot of people like to blame.
Chronic illnesses on theirgenetics and, and just say like,
well, it's just bad luck.
Like this is, like, these arejust the genes I was given.
It's, it's inevitable that I'mgoing to get sick.
But what I've actually beenlearning is that there's a lot
of hope that doesn't have to bethat way, and that God actually
created our bodies to actuallylike help to fight off these

(16:08):
chronic illnesses.
And that's kind of what we'regoing to go into is this idea of
the toxin bucket, that it canbe, you wanna keep it as low as
possible.
You think of an actual bucketbeing full.
If you're filling it with a hoseyou're getting close to the top,
what happens if you keep going?
It overflows.
And if you think about that inthe idea of like toxins in your

(16:29):
system, if you keep floodingyour body with all these toxins
they are in, it's like going tooverflow and create all sorts of
havoc inside of your body.
So.
Our job to keep the toxins aslow as possible.
Again, it's, it, it's impossibleto be a hundred percent toxin
free, our bodies are designed toclean it out.

(16:52):
Um, if anybody lives in eitherthe Midwest or maybe in the
south where water levels risequickly underground, um, you,
you probably are familiar with asum pump system and a sum pump
system is supposed to help getwater out from, um, your
basement level so it doesn'tflood the house.

(17:13):
And so it's, the sum pump isactually supposed to keep a
level of water in it at alltimes in order for it to
actually work.
Um, but you don't want it tooverflow'cause that's when your
house floods and that is bad.
And so your sum pump works tokind of filter out as much of
the water as possible before itdoes overflow.
And so that's what we wanna doavoiding.

(17:35):
Toxins and yeah, they lead tochronic illnesses.

Chrissy (17:40):
So we're essentially turning our bodies into very
good sump pumps.

Katie (17:44):
a sum pump

Chrissy (17:46):
So the, I think it's important to touch on the.
Uh, organs in our bodies thatare most utilized for,

Katie (17:58):
pumps.

Chrissy (17:59):
they are the detox organs in our bodies.
Um, there's, I, this is just methinking off the top of my head.
There might be more that I'mjust not thinking of, but the
number one is the liver.
It is literally the filter ofthe body.
When we, in medicine, when we'retalking about the efficacy of a

(18:19):
medication, um, we have to talkabout the liver bypass effect of
essentially means that when youeat something or take a
medication or something likethat, the very first place it
goes, once it's been absorbedout of the small intestine, the
large intestine, the stomach,wherever it, it gets getting
absorbed.

(18:40):
Very first place it goes is theliver and the liver detoxifies
it before it sends it to therest of your body.
Now our liver is also verysensitive and so when it gets
overloaded with tons and tons oftoxins, it starts to produce
scar tissue.
Its functions start to go outthe window and it's not able to

(19:04):
detoxify as well as if it wasworking properly.
So liver's a good one.
It's always important to makesure you are eating, um, like
liver support foods, I guess soto say.
I don't know exactly what foodssupport the liver, but do you

(19:27):
know of any, Katie,

Katie (19:28):
I actually think that organ meats well

Chrissy (19:32):
I think you're right.

Katie (19:33):
if you look into Ayurveda, like Chinese medicine
stuff, they actually talk a lotabout like if you find certain
foods that resemble body parts,um, they often.
Help support that specific bodypart.
So a really easy one, and whatmost of us know, this is that

(19:54):
carrots support your eyes.
Um, if you cut a carrot likedown the middle and you look at
it kind of like at the ring, younotice that it's kind of has a
circle and, and I mean itliterally looks like an eyeball
when you like cut it.
Um, like chopped carrots, if youhave like a big carrot, you know
what I'm talking about.
Um, another easy one are thatbroccoli, like broccoli looks

(20:15):
like trees.
And when you turn it upsidedown, it actually looks like
your lung, um, the way that yourlung kind of like the veins go
through your lung.
And, and so, uh, broccoli isreally good for your lungs.
So I, I actually, now that I'mspeaking this out loud, I do
know that if you eat the certainorgan meat that is exactly that

(20:36):
organ in your own body, um, soliver for example, is really
good for your own liver.
Um, but I'm also thinking thatmaybe something like.
Well, no, I think like a lot ofbeans are probably also, oh,
beans could probably be a lot ofdifferent organs.
Like kidney beans probably looklike your kidneys, I guess.

Chrissy (20:55):
Legumes are just really good for you in general.

Katie (20:58):
So I don't

Chrissy (20:59):
Yeah.

Katie (21:00):
but I, I do know that if you see a piece of food that
sort of resembles a body part,it often, like, it's, it's like
God originally, like, it's likehe designed it that way.
It's so incredible.
Um, that, you know, your carrotshave, uh, I don't even remember
what it is, betacarotene that'sreally good for your eyes and
stuff.
So it's like, oh yeah, then itis good

Chrissy (21:20):
That's what makes them orange.

Katie (21:22):
exactly.
So anyway, it's, fascinating,um, when you start learning
about that.
So find something

Chrissy (21:30):
Yeah.

Katie (21:30):
a liver

Chrissy (21:32):
Also a fun fact about the liver.
The liver is the only body partthat can regenerate itself.
It's like, you know howstarfish, if you like chop off a
starfish leg, it can like regrowit's starfish leg.
The liver is the same way.
So if somebody.
Donates their liver.
For a liver transplant, theyonly donate half of it.

(21:54):
And then so the donor is leftwith half a liver and the
recipient gets half a liver andthen give it a year.
Both of them will have a fullliver

Katie (22:02):
I did not

Chrissy (22:03):
the liver regenerates itself.
Yeah, it is cool.
It's the only body part thatdoes that.
I mean obviously maybe someonecould say skin does that, but

Katie (22:12):
what about

Chrissy (22:13):
not,

Katie (22:13):
if I

Chrissy (22:14):
in the same way.
'cause skin also leaves a scar.
The liver will do it with lessscarring, I don't know about
perfectly, but less scarring atleast.

Katie (22:25):
That's so

Chrissy (22:25):
Um, so anyways.
Liver is your number one toxindefense for your body.
Keep your liver healthy andyou're on a good track.
I'm actually, so part of thisprogram that I'm doing the, the
six month gut reset that I'mdoing, um, one of the
supplements they have me takingis literally called the Liver

(22:46):
Assist.
Um, and it pretty much is therejust to support our livers and
make them work better, I guess.
I don't know.

Katie (22:55):
Um, the

Chrissy (22:56):
the second organ that I'm thinking of that helps with
detoxifying the body is thespleen.
And I often refer to the spleenas the red blood cell graveyard.
Essentially, it's the place thatfilters out all of the old dead
and dying blood cells and breaksthem down and then sends down

(23:17):
the broken.
Pieces into the body to bereplenished into new red blood
cells.
Um, so that is really importantbecause if you have a bunch of
blood that isn't working, um,then you're gonna have a lot of
problems because blood's mainjob is to carry the nutrients
and carry the oxygen to yourvital organs, to your muscles,

(23:41):
your brain, everything likethat.
And so.
If you have old dead and dyingblood cells, they're not gonna
do their job very well, andyou're gonna get sick.
So that's the spleen.
And then the third one I'mthinking of, I think is quite
obvious to all of us, we, uh,experience, hopefully we
experience this organ on a dailybasis, is our colon.

(24:03):
Um, it is the one that isresponsible for quite literally
expelling the toxins from ourbody.
Um, and if you don't know it,we've, we've said it on previous
episodes, but I'm gonna say itagain.
The best practice for knowingwhether or not your digestive
system is working properly isyou should be having a bowel

(24:26):
movement after every single timeyou eat.
Um, that is for people who,well, most people eat enough
food, unlike most of my patientswho eat half a donut all day.
And that's about it.

Katie (24:37):
Like

Chrissy (24:37):
Um.

Katie (24:38):
are you saying like after every like major meal or like
literally every time you eat agranola bar.

Chrissy (24:45):
Oh, probably more so after major, every major meal.
But essentially what happens is,um, the act of chewing.
So when you're chewing yourfood, it stimulates all of your
digestive hormones.
So it stimulates your stomach tocreate more stomach acid.
It stimulates your gallbladderto release some bile into that

(25:06):
small intestine.
It stimulates your intestinesalso to start kinda moving
around a little bit more.
And with that comes, the largeintestine gets what called,
what's called a mass movement,which is essentially a large
movement of peristalsis throughthe large intestine, which

(25:26):
should inevitably push outwhatever is in there.
And so if you have been eatingand are eating well, then you
should be pooping after everymeal, which is great.
Um, I don't know of anyone whoactually does that.
I have yet to reach that point.
What about you, Katie?

(25:47):
I know we've talked about poopbefore on this.

Katie (25:50):
have, um, I'd say it's not a, like a consistent
everyday kind of thing, um, butI, it's something that I've been
noticing a lot more, um, just

Chrissy (26:01):
Mm-hmm.

Katie (26:02):
account of it it, it makes a lot of sense why doctors
are very concerned with yourbowel movements.
I like, I just remember that asa kid when they would like ask
you like, are you pooping andstuff?
And you're like, why do youwanna know?
Like, it, it just felt so weirdto me.
But again, the more I'mlearning, I'm like, yeah, it is.
You want to make sure you'rehaving regular healthy bowel
movements because it is likegetting all of the bad stuff

(26:25):
outta your system.
But also it, I mean, it, itliterally is just like the stuff
that was in your system.
And so if.
Your bowel movements aren't likea good healthy It's like clearly
something you're, you're notputting good stuff in there.
It's like your body's literallymachine you, what you put into
it results in how it functionsand what comes out of it because

(26:49):
even as you're saying like, likethe liver regenerates and
obviously skin cells, like the,what I've heard and what I've,
um, read somewhere, and maybeyou can just give me a, like an
proving saying yes, this isright in health, is that we
literally become what we eatbecause all of our cells in our
body regenerate And, um, likeyou think of like how your skin

(27:11):
sheds and so you're like losingskin cells, but then your skin
regenerates because it's likecreating new cells.
Same thing with your hair as itfalls out or your hair grows,
like obviously it's creating newcells.
You, and you can physically seeit like on the exterior of your
body, but all of your organs onthe inside are kind of doing
that shedding as well.
And so.

(27:32):
They like regenerate, but thecells are literally made out of
the foods and the, the, thesource or like the, um, what am
I saying?
Like the, the things that you'reputting into your body.
So whatever that fuel is you'reputting into your body, it not
only turns into the energy thatyou have during the day, but it
literally turns into your body.
And so are you eating lots ofjunk, which then results in your

(27:54):
body turning to junk?
Or are you eating good, healthy,nutritious foods that then
result in a strong body thatwill continue to work properly
to eliminate the toxins?
Um, you mentioned the threemajor parts that really make up
kind of your, defense system,but I mean, really each.

(28:18):
of our body is kind of designedto start to eliminate that.
I even think of like skin.
Um, I've been learning moreabout like the lymphatic system
and just like drainage and howimportant it is to be sweating
on a regular basis.
Because sweat is literally liketoxins leaving your body as
well.
And so you want to get movingregularly to get toxins out from

(28:39):
your skin even.
And so I'm like, wow, every partof our body really is designed
to.
Eliminate bad stuff and likekeep the good stuff in, but then
get all the bad stuff out on a,a consistent basis.
And if one part of it isn'tworking, like if you're not
sweating, then the toxins arealso staying trapped in your

(29:00):
body and then it's making otherparts of your system like your
other parts of your body notfunction properly.
Um, gosh, wow.
This is really even bringing meeven into like, the biblical
references of like, we're, eachof us is a part of the body of
Christ and if one person isn'tdoing their job, it kind of puts
everybody else on a halt.
So it's like, Hey, if God gaveyou a gift to go and teach

(29:22):
people about medicine and you'renot teaching them, then all
those people aren't learning.
And anyway, I've, I just gotexcited.

Chrissy (29:35):
Going back to, uh, the, the poop part of the
conversation, it's alsoimportant.
This is gonna sound reallycrazy, guys, but it's also
important to recognize thesmell.
Now it smells bad, like pointblank poop does not smell good,
right?
But there are times when itsmells worse or it smells less

(30:00):
worse, I guess so to say.
And working in the hospital, Ismelled a lot of things.
And there were two populationsthat I knew exactly how their
digestive system was going basedon the smell of their poops.

(30:20):
The first one was drug addicts.
The second group of people ispeople whose diets were mostly
fried food.
Um, people who ate a lot of, uh,fast food and things like that.
I could be able to smell thebathroom after they're finished
going.
And then I'd talk to them aboutwhat they like to eat and I

(30:43):
would expect them to say a bunchof fast food and then they'd
respond with a bunch of fastfood.
It just tells you so much aboutyour body, how hydrated you are,
um, how well your bowels aremoving, how much fiber you have
in your diet, um, whether or notyou are sick.
You know, like if we're havingdiarrhea, that's evidence that
we're sick.

(31:03):
That's the body trying to purgewhatever's inside.
Um, so yeah, it's important toknow about your bowel movements.
Read up on them.
I'm gonna stop talking aboutpoop now because I can tell that
I'm making Katie veryuncomfortable.
She's just sitting there withlike a disgusted look on her
face.
But it's such an important topicof conversation that needs to be

(31:26):
talked about more.
Everyone kind of is like, oh no,that's my private zone and I
don't even share that with myhusband.
I'm like, talk about it withyour husband, because I bet you
he's got some room forimprovement in that area too.
So,

Katie (31:41):
I deal

Chrissy (31:42):
um.

Katie (31:42):
a lot too, Chrissy, but not from people I don't know.
Not strangers.
I deal with malachi's poop everyday.
But it is, it's so

Chrissy (31:52):
I've worked a lot of strangers, but

Katie (31:54):
Yeah.
I, that's unfortunate, but I, Imean, I think about all the
times.
Early on when we were, like,when we'd go to the doctor and
all this stuff, and one of thefirst things they would always
ask would be like, about hispoop and if he's pooping
regularly and what does it looklike?
And I mean, I literally had,yeah, doc, my, his doctor would
be like, send me a picture of itand stuff.

(32:15):
And I'm like, okay, here you go.
Gross.
you want it.

Chrissy (32:22):
we can learn a lot about it.

Katie (32:24):
I totally

Chrissy (32:25):
You learn a lot.
You know what's other, anothercrazy thing that you can see
from the outside that tells youa lot about the inside is the
tongue.

Katie (32:32):
Okay, well that's another area actually as, as you were
talking about, the smell ofthings.
Um, I was thinking you can tellwhen people are actually pretty
sick if they have like thisrancid breath that doesn't just
smell like bad morning breathand honestly like.
It, it just, it's verydifferent.

(32:52):
Like you can just tell like inthe middle of the day and
somebody has this like, uh, youknow, almost like, you know,
when you walk by a sewer andlike you could just smell the
gases kind of coming out fromit.
It's like almost like that whereyou're like, oh, it just, just
smells like there's somethingwrong down the tubes and stuff.

(33:13):
And so that's another area thatyes, like you can easily tell if
somebody's toxin bucket there isoverloaded, um, because
literally coming out of thesystem.
Like you could just smell, like,you just think of a sewer being
toxic and the smells coming outfrom that.
So, yeah.

Chrissy (33:33):
Maybe another episode we can talk about tongue
mapping.
I think that'd be a fun one.

Katie (33:37):
yes.
I, I,

Chrissy (33:39):
Yeah.

Katie (33:39):
I think Chinese medicine is so fascinating and there is
just so

Chrissy (33:42):
Oh, I wanna learn it.

Katie (33:44):
so cool.
So yeah, if anybody is

Chrissy (33:46):
I should

Katie (33:46):
go

Chrissy (33:47):
to China

Katie (33:48):
Move to China.
Do it.

Chrissy (33:50):
and learn about it.
All right.
Well, let's actually talk about,now that we've talked about all
of the detox pathways in ourbody, and probably a lot more
that we didn't even touch on.
Let's talk about where are thosetoxins coming in?
Because we have so many detoxpathways in our body.
How in the world are we stillwalking around as giant toxin

(34:11):
buckets?
Um, so I think we shouldprobably just like go through
the house, you know, let's do alittle tour through the house
and identify where are thesetoxins coming from?
And I think, Katie, you're gonnahave a really interesting
perspective on this, especiallysince you're trying to build a,
or renovate a low tox home rightnow.

(34:35):
And so.

Katie (34:35):
I think before we go through the house itself, I
think the two areas or Yeah,maybe, maybe two.
The top two I think I wanna justgive people right away are like,
food.
Would you agree?
Like food is probably yourbiggest, just, it's like, not
even just in your house, it'slike everywhere.
It's your, it's like your dailythings.

(34:57):
And even with that, like youthink of anything that you use
on a daily basis, um, would bethings that you're putting on
your body.
So like skincare products orsoaps and things like that.
And so I think if you just ofthose two areas primarily you,
you hit like the, like 90%almost, maybe not 90, but like a

(35:22):
good majority of it.
So if you're just looking forlike a good win.
Food and your, whatever you'reputting onto your skin.
'cause you think your skin isthe biggest organ we've known.
Like most of us know that fact.
so it's absorbing everything allthe time.
So you just gotta be careful.
So with that, let's go throughthe house because if you think
about your skin as an organabsorbing everything, there are

(35:43):
so many things in your house nowthat actually like, they
contribute to the accumulationof toxins coming into your
Fortress.

Chrissy (35:59):
Yes.
So number one, you're openingthe front door and you are using
your hand to do so.
So, um, there's probably germson that, but we're not really
concerned about the germsbecause germs are good for you.
Eating dirt creates a strongimmune system, but it is
possible that there are toxinson that handle.

(36:19):
If your door has been painted,then that paint might have
toxins on it.
You don't always just touch thehandle when you open the door.
You then close the door and whatdo you do?
You touch the door to close it.
So,

Katie (36:35):
Oh.

Chrissy (36:35):
any sort of lacquer or stain or anything that's on that
door is now in your hand skin.

Katie (36:41):
So paint, I have to now talk about paint.
It's the bane of my existenceright now is picking out paint
samples.
We ha we literally have like 50different paint samples just
sitting on our counter becausejust keep going through, I just
can't decide.
It really, the color of yourwalls really makes or breaks a

(37:03):
home sometimes.
Most of the time if you justpick a color it'll go.
But there are definitely timeswhere like there are undertones
to certain colors that, anywaypaint I've been learning a lot
about, and I don't remember if Italked about it as much when we,
when we did our update, um,episode a couple weeks ago, but.
There are so many toxins inpaint, and there is a brand

(37:24):
right now that I have found thatis probably the most toxin free,
it's called Ecos, ECOS, andwe're, uh, I keep going back and
forth.
I haven't ordered anything.
And so that's why it's stilllike a, ugh, I just paint right
now.
I really wanna use it.
It is so expensive.
It's something like$88 pergallon.

(37:48):
Um, and usually like the, thebrand that you can get at Home
Depot called Bear, um, BEHR, um,that's only like 44 ish dollars
depending on the like.
of the type of paint that you'regonna get, but like a middle of
the road one is about 44, soit's like double the amount than

(38:10):
just your really average paintfrom Home Depot.
Um, and so you just think aboutthat and like, we have a very
large house, so the squarefootage of all the walls, and so
you think about like the toxinbucket, you think about paint or
something like that.
From a toxin bucket standpoint,we really are considering doing
like those, the non-toxic paintin our bedrooms because that's

(38:34):
where you would spend a lot oftime.
Um, and especially likeconsistent, like consecutive
time, um, sleeping overnight.
And so putting the non-toxicpaints in the rooms at the
minimum instead of the entirehouse.
So that's, that's like one waythat we're trying to view it is
like, okay, what, what can we,where would it make the most

(38:54):
impact?
And that's one of those areas.
But if you're looking to reallydo the non-toxic where they're,
they have a, a very low VOC orthis one has a, a a hundred
percent zero VOC, which is, um,organic compounds, and it's like
the gases that are beingadmitted because even after you

(39:14):
paint it, yes, you, youeverybody knows like the smell
of like paint fumes and thingslike that, but even admit gases
even after the fact, like evenafter you stop smelling them.
so that's why it's important toconsider that kind of stuff.
So anyway, paint there.
said it.

Chrissy (39:33):
That's a big one.
Now you're walking through thehouse, you take off your shoes.
On the floor is either carpet ora rug or hardwood floors or
laminate flooring.
And if you haven't washed yourfloors in a while, like me, who
hasn't washed my floors in awhile,

Katie (39:51):
Dito.

Chrissy (39:52):
whatever else was on everybody else's shoes is now on
your feet.
And um, that can includeanything that they stepped on
outside, including pesticides,if they're walking on the grass.
Um, that can include dog poop,that can include

Katie (40:11):
Yeah.

Chrissy (40:11):
mold

Katie (40:12):
speaking of poop, um, I learned that your shoes have,
uh, more like fecal, uh.

Chrissy (40:21):
matter.

Katie (40:21):
Matter.
Thank you.
Fecal matter on, there's morefecal matter on your shoes than
on a toilet seat.

Chrissy (40:30):
That does not surprise me at all.
Toilet seats are actually veryclean

Katie (40:35):
So there you

Chrissy (40:35):
because, well, the way you're supposed to use a toilet
seat is you sit on it, and Idon't know about you guys, but
the back of my legs are not verydirty all the time unless I've
been like outside in shorts andlike playing flag football or
something, you know?
Um, I don't play flag flagfootball.
I don't know why I said that.

(40:57):
That was very weird.
Whatever.
Um, yeah, toilet seats areactually very clean, which is a
crazy thing, but.
Anyways, moving on from theentryway.
We've already got our hands andour feet dirty.
Now we're gonna walk into thekitchen and you lean your hands
on the countertop that wascleaned with, uh, granite

(41:19):
cleaner.
And then you go into yourrefrigerator and you touch the
stainless steel handle that wascleaned with stainless steel
cleaner.
And then you look in your fridgeand you grab out the bucket of
ice cream.
Well, I guess no, you're gonnago in the freezer and you grab
out the bucket of ice cream, butyou haven't washed your hands
yet from touching the door andthe countertop and the

(41:43):
refrigerator door.
and so you eat that ice cream,and let's say you accidentally
get a little bit on thecountertop, and so you just take
your finger and yeah, wipe it upwith your finger and then lick
it.
Now you have that door lacquerin your mouth.
Well, okay, so you finished yourice cream.
Now you gotta go to the sink andwash your bowl.
And you wash your bowl with dawndish soap, which often dawn dish

(42:09):
soap.
They have a lot ofadvertisements about how good
they are for the environment.
They're not actually very goodfor the environment at all.
They have a lot of endocrinedisruptors in them.
They have coloring, they havefragrance.
Just it's not good.
So if you are still using Dondish soap, there are other

(42:30):
alternatives.
Dr.
Bronner's is fantasticalternative.
It might not bubble as much, butit still gets the cho done.
Okay guys.
Um, and while you are washingyour dishes, you are using one
of those.
Yellow and green sponges thatyour mother has used for 50
years.

(42:50):
And that yellow, green spongeis, uh, releasing microplastics
onto your bowl that you arewashing and also releasing
microplastics onto your skinthat can then be absorbed into
your skin.
You finish washing your bowl andthen you grab the dish towel
that was washed with tide,laundry detergent and some

(43:10):
bleach, and you dry your dishusing the tide laundry detergent
and bleached towel, and you putit away in the cabinet.
All right, so you finished yourbowl of ice cream.
Now you're gonna go upstairs andyou're gonna take a nap.
And so you walk up the stairsand the stairs are carpeted.
And this carpet specificallyyour mother decided that she

(43:32):
wanted flame retardant carpetingbecause carpet is very
flammable.
And if the house catches onfire, then um, we got a bad
situation if the fire gets onthe carpeting.
So she got flame retardantcarpeting, which is also a huge

(43:52):
endocrine disruptor.
And so that is now on your barefeet as you're walking up the
stairs.
So you get into your bedroom andyou lay down on top of your bed
because you're just way tootired before getting into your
bed.
And your comforter just sohappens to also be moisture
resistant.
And so there's another thingthat is now touching your skin

(44:17):
that has toxins on it, andthat's moisture resistant.
But you lay down, you sit therefor a minute and you say, Ugh,
if I'm gonna take a nap, Ireally gotta take my contacts
out.
So you walk into the bathroomand you turn on your LED lights
that you have in the bathroom.
And those LED lights immediatelystart affecting your sleep

(44:39):
cycle, your hormones andeverything that's released in
terms of wake sleep cycles.
You take out your contacts andput them in contact solution,
which, uh, crazy enough guys,oftentimes eyedrops contact
solution, things like that, hasthis thing called polyethylene
glycol in it, um, which isderived from natural gas, which

(45:03):
is the same stuff that MiraLaxis made out of.
So there you go.
MiraLax and eyedrops are made ofthe same stuff derived from
natural gas.
So you got that now in youreyeballs.

Katie (45:14):
Yeah, I didn't know about the eye drops and contact stuff.
It's another, I actually, Idon't know if you noticed, I'm
wearing contacts today becausewe're gonna go work on the house
after this, and I've beenwearing my glasses primarily,
but every time I put them intomy eyeballs, I'm like, I'm
putting more microplastics intomy system.
But now I'm gonna be thinkingabout all the contact solutions

(45:37):
and eye drops and things too.
Oh my goodness.
It's everything.
It's everything.
Literally.

Chrissy (45:44):
Oh, and by the way, your contacts were probably
stored in a plastic containerthat you had'em in overnight.
Anyways, so take your contactsout.
You go back to your bed.
Mind you, you haven't washedyour hands yet because who
washes their hands thatfrequently throughout the day?
Let's be real.
Unless you're a nurse, then youwash your hands 10,000 freaking
times.

(46:05):
But anyways.
You go back to bed, you getyourself nice and cozy under the
covers that were also washedwith that tide Laundry detergent
and dish soap.
And you just love the smell ofyour bedsheet so much.
You even had Downey Unstoppablesin that load of laundry.

(46:26):
And so those endocrinedisruptors are having a game
with you.

Katie (46:32):
Well, I think our tour is, that is a really good tour.
I think we should give it asummary as far as like where
these toxins are kind of comingfrom.
Um, you know, I mentioned thefood, so anything that's coming
into your system, you think the,the primary things are sugar and

(46:53):
seed oils.
I think, um, anything that'srefined also is, is really bad.
So if you're thinking about thatice cream, Chris, you talked
about that likely has.
Both sugar and seed oils and allsorts of preservatives and
additives, and maybe even somefood dye and all sorts of nasty
stuff.
Maybe natural flavors, whichnatural flavors are also made of

(47:14):
lots of chemicals that we justdon't know everything that's in
it.
And so food is like the biggestthing because we're putting it
into our bodies.
Again, it our, the food becomesour body.
And so we really wanna becareful with that.
Same thing with water.
Water is a, a huge source of,um, toxins.
I actually don't even know ifyou mentioned that on, on the

(47:34):
tour because we didn't wash ourhands, so we weren't getting the
toxins from the water.
So that's, that's a big plus.
But unfortunately, even if youthink that you have nice clean
water, which granted.
to lots of the world, we arevery fortunate that yes, you can

(47:54):
drink the water straight fromyour tap and it's not going to
kill you right at that moment.
But oftentimes your water isfull of other things such, like
I mentioned, um, pesticides,herbicides, um, there's
fluoride, chlorine, um, there'spharmaceuticals, birth controls
in water.

(48:15):
There's, there's just so manytoxins in water, um, that you
really wanna be filtering it.
Um, then you think about likethe air in your house too.
The air in your house I havelearned is actually more toxic
than the air outside of yourhome.
Your house is often super sealedup where we live in the, this
era where they make housesextremely, um, eco-friendly in

(48:40):
the sense that we're not using alot of energy to heat and cool
them because there's no like,uh, gaps in anything.
Like it's your, your house isjust sealed so tightly, but
because of that, there's not alot of movement of the air in
your household, which allowseverything to just settle in
there.
Um, so you just think about allthe dust that settles
everywhere, and that's like inyour air and it's getting into

(49:02):
your lungs, your lungs.
Actually, if you think about allthe detox like organs, your
lungs tend to be another placethat doesn't, I guess it doesn't
necessarily detox, but itactually kind of cleans the air.

Chrissy (49:14):
You wanna know a crazy thing about lungs, so I think
it's.
Either Italy or France orsomething like that.
Cow's lung is a delicacy

Katie (49:24):
Hmm.

Chrissy (49:25):
they, they cook like a lot of pasta dishes with cow's,
lung and things like that.
And it is illegal here inAmerica to consume cow's lung
because they found mold sporesin it.

Katie (49:37):
You,

Chrissy (49:38):
Now I just want you to think, I just want you to think
about that because like the onlyway that a mold spore could get
inside of a cow's lung is if thecow breathed it,

Katie (49:48):
Mm-hmm.

Chrissy (49:48):
means that there's mold spores in the air.
And that's just the reality ofit.
If you're walking outside, likethey're kind of everywhere.
And I just think it's kind ofironic that it's illegal here in
America because of somethingthat's completely naturally
occurring and it probably justgrossed out somebody in the FDA
and so they decided that itshould have been illegal.

Katie (50:08):
But I mean, that's a good point too, you think about like
when, when something gets wet,you wanna dry it as quickly as
possible so that mold doesn'toccur.
But if your house is superclosed up and you don't have a
lot of air flow through it, youlikely have mold.
In fact, actually I listened toa podcast episode where, it, I
think it was for an airfiltration system.

(50:29):
The guy, uh, does them anyway.
said it's almost to do a moldtest in a home he's like, 98% of
the time it comes back positive.
like, don't waste your money onactually getting a mold test for
your home because.
The chances that you have moldspores in your air so high

(50:52):
because of the way that we livehere in America.
Just having everything so closedup, he's like, you might as well
just get the air filtrationsystems.
I mean, again, maybe he is justsaying this because he sells air
filtration systems, but it also,I, I kind of believe it in a,
like, there's no like draftright now in my house.
Like it is just stale, likestagnant air.

(51:15):
So anyway, Air is one of thoseareas that has a lot of toxins.
I mean, even outside, there's alot of toxins in the air, but it
is just the way that we breatheor the way that we use air
inside tends to be very toxic inour own homes, which is
unfortunate.
You think about even likecooking all the air, like all
the oils and the, if you have agas stove, like the gas getting

(51:39):
into your house.
So if you, you need to be usingone of those vents to be taking
all of that cooking stuff out.
Um, you even think of like, youburn your food and now there's
smoke in the air.
So there's just a lot, a lot, alot, a lot of toxins in our air,
which is unfortunate.
But then obviously when you gooutside, you have the fumes from
cars and from factories and all,all the stuff.

Chrissy (52:03):
I, I did this the other day.
Um, so I was driving and theinside of my car just smelled
kind of meh.
I don't know.
It, it just, it was getting kindof stuffy in there.
And so I, I pressed the buttonthat's like the air circulation
button so that it would circlethe outside air to come into the
car.
Now, I was driving on thehighway during rush hour, and it

(52:25):
was worse.
Like my car immediately smelledlike tar and gasoline, and I was
like, oh my gosh.
And so also be careful on whereyou filter your air from because
it could be worse than just the.
Stale pasta that youaccidentally left in the
backseat last night afterdinner,

Katie (52:47):
Is that from

Chrissy (52:48):
which has happened.
Oh, no, no, no.
I am just a queen at forgettingmy leftovers, actually.
Okay.
Pro tip, this is totallyunrelated pro tip.
If you're going to a friend'shouse and you have leftovers
that you need to stick in theirfridge, and you don't wanna
forget them, at the end of thenight, put your keys in the
fridge with them.

Katie (53:05):
Ooh,

Chrissy (53:06):
You will not forget your leftovers because you need
your keys.
And so if you put your keys inthe fridge with your leftovers,
you won't forget them.
Okay.
I'm done.

Katie (53:14):
because your keys are probably a source of toxins.

Chrissy (53:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't touch your keys toanything in the fridge.
Just put'em on top of theTupperware dish.
Okay.

Katie (53:24):
I've seen so much about like, don't let your kids

Chrissy (53:26):
In a paper towel.

Katie (53:27):
with car keys because you just, you know, you think about
all the places you've set carkeys down and stuff.
And then last night Malachi wasplaying with Wes Car Keys, and I
was like, you're entertained.
You can play with them.
And I was just like one of thosemoms at that moment.

Chrissy (53:42):
You know, at the same time though, like they have to
be exposed to somethingotherwise their immune systems
aren't going to develop.
So it's a balance.
Like, we're not gonna be able toget out all these toxins and we,
we also say eating dirt is goodfor you.
It improves your immune system.
And that's the truth of thematter of like your, your liver
still needs a job, you know?

(54:02):
And so it is okay to have toxinsin your life here and there and
you know, do your best tominimize them.
But ultimately at the end of theday, like if there's still some,
it is okay and you will survive.
And God created your body to bethis beautiful detox mechanism

(54:23):
that.
There are so many organs in ourbody that are designed to get
rid of toxins.
And so it to focus on supportingthose organs in the areas that
you just can't, you have nocontrol over the air that you
breathe outside, you know?
Um, you have no control over thedrywall that was used to build

(54:47):
your house 20 years ago.
Um, you have no control over thematerial that was used to make
your sweatshirt that you have towear for whatever event that
you're going to, and everybodyhas to wear the same thing.
You know, a lot of these thingswe have no control over, but we
can maximize our body's abilityto detox itself and then

(55:09):
ultimately decrease the amountof toxins that stay trapped in
our bodies.
So I just wanna send you outwith a little bit of
encouragement there.
Katie, do you have anyencouragement before we close
out?

Katie (55:21):
Um, I think encouragement is, I mean, kind of on the idea
of like.
Yeah, I, I let Malachi play withall sorts of things that
probably have different types oftoxins on it.
I am not actually a huge fan ofwashing my hands that often
because I actually believe inlike, keeping around the, um,

(55:44):
microorganisms, more and thingsand the, the good bacterias and
things that just like help yourimmune system build up.
Um, but because of that, I dochoose to eliminate other toxins
that might get on my hands, suchas like the soap that we're
using.
We try and use like very naturalsoap instead of using very
chemical based soap.

(56:06):
Um, same thing with like what weclean our house with, what, what
I put on my, my hands, likelotions and the soaps that we
use.
So my point is that I.
If you can try and findalternatives to the things
you're using.
So obviously if you're gonnawash your hands, wash it with
things that aren't going to harmyou as badly as like the super

(56:27):
chemically stuff.
So my encouragement is just likelooking for those things that
are easy, um, to make switcheswith.
And I think the easiest areasare the ones that we frequently
buy new things for.
So that's food.
We replenish our pantries andour refrigerators very
frequently, but also all of yourpersonal care products that

(56:47):
you're using on a daily basis,that's going to make the largest
impact.
So those, those are just like,if you're looking for good, like
next steps, those are the twoareas that I highly recommend
being your first.
Place to tackle.
Um, and then look at all of theother very specific stuff if you
can.
And, and get a air filtrationsystem.

(57:08):
Get a water filtration system.
You know, do but start with theeasy stuff and then move forward
and, and consider like thesheets that you have and whether
or not there are organic cottonor not, or if they're something
made from plastic so

Chrissy (57:22):
Oh, I.
Wanna get bamboo sheets.

Katie (57:25):
sound so good.

Chrissy (57:26):
I know, I've, I've heard really good things about
them.
My sister actually just gotbamboo sheets and she loves
them.
I know.
I'm like, well, you live withmom and dad, so you don't have
to really pay rent.
So I get it.

Katie (57:40):
choices.

Chrissy (57:41):
too.

Katie (57:41):
So yeah, just look for the areas that make the most
sense, things that you're usingon a daily basis and, and
whatever's.
Easiest, but don't go likethinking about everyth.
I mean, you could overload onstress just by looking at your
house and being like,everything's going to kill me,
because it's all adding to mytoxin bucket.
No, just, just find the

Chrissy (58:00):
Yep.

Katie (58:00):
that make the most sense for you, um, and, and do that,
and then kind of look for thenext thing after you tackle
that.
So just little steps.
Um, yeah, eliminate that stress.
Do that too, but don't do itwith one of those fragrance bath
bombs.
Okay.

Chrissy (58:20):
Definitely no, just some Epsom salt guys.
Non, no, no fragrance withoutEpsom salt.
Just straight Epsom salt, which,uh, newsflash, that means Dr.
Teals is out.
Unfortunately, made me very sadwhen I realized that one,
because I love Dr.
Teals, but nope, they all havefragrance in them.
So

Katie (58:40):
We used to use their

Chrissy (58:41):
unfortunate,

Katie (58:41):
kids, but didn't, we don't have it anymore.

Chrissy (58:45):
not anymore.
I've actually found that, likethe only place that I was able
to find pure Epsom salt with nofragrance and nothing added to
it, was just like the genericbrand from my grocery store.

Katie (58:57):
Yep.

Chrissy (58:58):
That's the only one that I could find.

Katie (59:01):
Yep.

Chrissy (59:01):
All right.
Anyways, with that, uh, we thankyou guys for tuning into our
conversation today.
We pray for each of you, and wehope that these episodes will be
helpful in your journey tobecoming a better steward of
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We're praying this episode washelpful for you.

Katie (59:22):
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Chrissy (59:22):
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(59:45):
effectiveness, detoxeffectiveness.
Yep.

Katie (59:48):
Yep,

Chrissy (59:49):
Um, we would love to hear what resonated with you on
this episode.
Until next time, my name isChrissy.

Katie (59:55):
and my name is Katie.

Chrissy (59:57):
And thanks for listening to Crunchy
Stewardship.

Katie (59:59):
See ya.

Chrissy (01:00:01):
Bye.