December 30, 2024 • 57 mins
Welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party! This week we are covering one of Dave's all-time favorite theories...Hollow Moon! Is it a space station built by an ancient alien civilization? Was it built by humans in the distant future and brought back through time and placed here to save humanity? Or is it a hologram meant to shield us from the truth? I dunno. Maybe to all of it? Give it a listen, enjoy, and let us know what you think the moon REALLY is!
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Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Crypto Cocktail Party Show.
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We have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.
I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my wonderful cohost Sarge.
How is it going, Sarge?
Whoa, feeling good.
I'm feeling good.
I apologize to anyone who might be listening with headphones on.
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I'm just excited.
I just cracked an arrogance at logger.
I'm going to I'm going to have a beer and then we're going to we're going to talk
about what some shit, whatever we're talking about today.
We are going to be talking about some shit, some actually probably not literal shit,
but like it's it's not poopies, but it's weird.
Yeah.
But it was how was how was your holiday?
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Oh, I hope everyone listening had a good holiday or a lack of holiday.
What?
Depending on what you believe in or what you do, it doesn't really matter.
Just hope you had a good day off of work.
But how about you, Sarge?
How was your holiday?
It's fantastic.
I got a Grimfrost hockey jersey.
I'm a big fan of Grimfrost.
The lead singer of a Monomarth has a clothing brand and it's it's just.
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You know, right up the middle aged white guy alley.
You know, if you've got northern, northwestern European ancestry,
you're going to buy whatever Grimfrost throws at you.
And I got that could get spicy.
It could get spicy.
Just saying. Well, OK.
You could get a little far northern, far northwestern, not the guy.
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Yeah, I got you.
Fell is that got into some hot water in the 40s.
Down.
Boy, you got a little bit of hot water there.
Just for a minute.
Well, what else did you get?
You got to see you got a you got a jersey and I got Sarja Slatter.
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Hey, was he one of the very excited hot water?
Yeah.
Sarja Slatter. No, no, no, no.
He he fought them.
Yes, we fight them.
We don't we're not friends with them.
Yeah, the sort of from 1980.
He went back in time, I think.
That's how we did it.
I mean, that you get anything good.
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You get anything fun?
I got a bunch of ramen from my mom.
That's the way to do it.
I was a mom.
Is it mom of go David that Chef David something or other?
He has like a no idea restaurant.
But he picks like makes like packaged
ramen and like spicy chili oil.
So I got a bunch of those.
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My wife got me got us tickets to a show on New Year's Eve.
So nice day is going to be a fucking train wreck.
You get in trouble.
But it knows is chill.
You know, I've stayed at home with the wife, made a ham.
Also didn't realize that like ham.
You don't realize how big a ham is until you have leftover ham.
Oh, yeah. And then you're just stuck with ham for days.
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Yeah. So it's just the two of us.
And she's like, what do you want for Christmas?
There's like a ham. I was like, I'll go get a ham.
I thought you could get just like a small little guy.
No, no. So it was like it was an 11 pound ham.
And I was like, well, most of that's bone.
It has to be.
You got a pig. You basically got.
I was getting a big gravely mistake.
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So now I just have I've had ham sandwiches for lunch at work every day
for the past week and a half. Yeah.
And it's I mean, I don't hate it.
It's not bad, but I don't know how long it lasts.
I don't know how long I can keep eating ham before I.
You should probably you should probably throw it out.
But I would give it like one more day and then get rid of it.
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Yeah. But no, I mean, I froze some of it.
So I got some frozen.
That's that should be good for at least.
OK, then you're OK. Yeah.
I don't know. I got I I I learned in economics class in college.
The sunk cost fallacy.
We're like, we hang on to shit just because we paid money for it.
And so when you buy a giant ham, the sunk cost fallacy really sets in.
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You're like, God damn it. I spent 20 bucks on this ham.
And I still have 4000 pounds of it left. Yeah.
And then try to offer it to people.
You guys want some ham.
Yeah. It's like you just got to get rid of it.
It's like some point you have to recognize no matter how much money it cost you.
It's not worth the hassle of keeping an entire ham in your fridge.
Yeah. I mean, I thought I was going to eat more.
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It doesn't matter. This is not dude.
Every time I make him every time, I'm always like, why did I buy such a big ham?
Because my caveman brain in the store sees a giant pile of meat.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you're like, oh, well, of course, this is perfect.
I'm going to buy this and I'm going to eat the whole thing like Fred Flintstone.
And like one. And then, yeah, he get halfway through it after a month.
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And you're like, OK, it's probably time to get rid of the ham.
Yeah, it's time to go. Yeah.
Buy him.
All right, sorry. So we got an episode today.
It's not it's not ham based. I mean, it could be.
Who knows? It's so far. It's weird.
Today, we know we're going to be talking about a one of my favorite conspiracy
theories. We've been doing a lot more conspiracy stuff and I fucking dig it.
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I like. Yeah, I think you could tell where my interests lie,
depending on what era of the show you're listening to.
And I feel like now we're in my conspiracy theory era.
And I. Yeah, we've hit the conspiracy era. That's fine.
I mean, I know the show is called Crypto Cocktail Party, but I mean, it's it's
I wasn't going to name it Cryptid Alien Conspiracy Folklore Cocktail Party,
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because that doesn't roll off the tongue that well.
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of hard to say like cryptid mishmash a weird shit party.
Yeah. So I mean, I know we've been lacking on cryptos, but today I got a good one.
I promise we're going to talk about my favorite one that I've ever come across.
And that is the Hollow Moon Theory.
Now, are you familiar with it at all?
I feel like you probably would be. I feel like it's right up your alley.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I so I my mom had a friend
and this friend lived with us at one point in the apartment.
A mom friend. Oh, yeah. Already great.
So this lady was she was nuttier than a fruitcake.
My mom, my mom was very close with her until she moved in
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and became a nightmare to live with.
But for the brief time period before
we stopped talking to this woman,
she was all about conspiracy theories.
And at the time, I was just like, oh, man, she's really smart and with it.
And then I as an adult now, I'm like, oh, she was not somebody
a child should have been around.
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But she firmly believed in the hollow earth and hollow moon theories.
OK, so at least there was consistency, you know, she wasn't like,
well, the earth is hollow, but the moon is solid.
Let's not go crazy. Well, I mean, she was consistent.
Across the board, to be fair, flat earthers believe that the earth is flat,
but every other planet in the solar system is not all of them.
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Some of them think that the celestial bodies are just projections on a dome
because their brains are made of sawdust.
OK, you might be foreshadowing a little bit of what's coming up because.
Oh, snap. For those of you don't know, the hollow moon theory,
it's not just that the moon is hollow.
There's it's kind of like flat earth in a way that like
there's different types of flat earth.
So it's like there's flat earth. There's dome earth.
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There's convex earth. There's fucking triangle earth.
There's an earth on the back of a giant turtle.
It's a whole thing.
Wait, there's a triangle earth.
I just want to know how that was like a D for.
We're not. How does that work?
Kind of, yeah. But we're not talking about that today.
Man, I got to look that up because I I mean, it's already stupid
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to think the earth is flat. Yeah.
Because of all the evidence throughout the history of mankind.
But to think it's a try, that's a that's a new this corners there.
They know there's corners on a triangle.
I don't fully understand. You know what?
I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to stop.
This is a different episode.
Yeah, we need to we need to cover all the D20 earths.
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Yeah. The the other important distinction is that like
unlike hollow earth, hollow moon is a lot different.
So hollow earth, there's like either, you know, the tunnels
where fucking Godzilla comes in or, you know, there's like lumary,
like that whole thing, like their secret.
This is a little bit different.
So, yeah, the the hollow merians, the hollow moon theory suggests
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that the moon is not a natural satellite, but is actually a hollow
artificial structure that was placed in Earth's orbit by.
Aliens. No, I don't.
Who? Hey, man, I didn't say you said it, but I thought I thought
this was like an open ended
because it was I was going to go aliens, possibly the Jews, maybe yetis.
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Well, I mean, like most conspiracy theories,
there's there's never like a jet, like there's no one.
There's like a ton of different explanations ranging from right
ancient aliens all the way to future humans.
So basically just full circle.
But they came back in time just to put a giant satellite there.
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Yeah. And we'll get into that.
But to understand why, please do to understand why people think
that the moon is hollow, we got to start with the basics. OK. OK.
And this is this this episode is going to be very information heavy.
So if it gets real boring, I'm apologize.
It's OK. I did some research to let's let's get into it.
All right. For one, we don't know how the moon came into existence.
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And I mean that in the sense that there's no general consensus
among scientists on how the moon was formed.
And there's a bunch of different competing theories as to how.
But all of them come with their own problems and reasons why.
I mean, I think we're starting to get to a prevailing theory, though,
like the more the more generally accepted theory, I think.
And maybe I'm wrong here, but well, I believe that the what?
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Let me get through my.
Oh, I'll let you get you through yours.
But like the only reason I even I even thought of this is because I was trying
to explain it to one of my children who halfway through just started playing
Sonic and was not paying attention to me at all. Yeah.
Well, one hypothesis is the fission theory.
Now, this theory suggests that when the earth was still molten,
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it was spinning so fast that centrifugal force just separated
like a huge chunk of it, like it just broke off, like of the earth.
And that formed the moon.
The problem with this theory is that the composition of the moon
and the earth don't match.
Well, they do share similarities.
Lunar rocks lack significant quantities of different compounds
that are abundant on Earth, suggesting that the moon did not form
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from Earth material directly.
The other problem with this theory is that the moon's density,
the moon's density is three point three four grams per cubic centimeter,
and it is much lower than the Earth's density,
which is five point five two grams per cubic centimeter.
If the moon was a chunk of the earth, the density should be similar,
if not like almost exactly the same.
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And they are so suck it, nerds.
Why aren't you using just out of curiosity, why aren't you using freedom units?
Because I don't think it matters and I don't know what any of this means anyways.
I couldn't tell you what a fucking gram per whatever is.
Yeah, I grams.
I think that should only be used to measure drugs.
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And crackers.
You're not wrong, but I mean, the.
You say and crackers.
Yeah.
Yeah, a gram cracker.
It's one gram of crackers.
So much.
Wouldn't it be wild if that was actually accurate?
We're moving on.
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Again, information heavy.
The second theory is the capture theory.
Now, this theory suggests that the moon forms somewhere else,
like outside of the solar system, and it was traveling through
and it just happened to get captured up in Earth's gravitational pull.
The problem with this one is that the moon's like it has an almost perfectly circular orbit.
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It's like almost too precise to be the result of some chaotic capture event.
And moons that are captured by bigger planets usually have like a more elliptical orbit.
Like it's never going to be that perfect of a circle.
There's also the fact that for the moon to be captured without just fucking like slamming
directly into Earth or just like whizzing right past us,
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there would have had to have been like a third object for the moon to either like bump into
or their gravitational pull helps slow it down.
Enough to the point where...
The three body problem.
It's not what that is, but it just that's the first thing that came to my head.
I mean, it's kind of true.
Like it needed another like a third thing to just slow it down enough so that it could be captured.
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And as of right now, there's no evidence of a third planetary body or something.
For that to have happened.
The third theory is the co-formation theory.
And it's pretty much exactly what the name suggests.
It's basically like the moon and the Earth were formed like together at the same time
from the same like stardust like primordial material.
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Like in the early forms of the solar system.
It's like that's how like Jupiter and Saturn got their moons.
They all like formed together.
The problem with this theory is pretty much the same as like the first one.
Where if it was made of the same material, the density of both bodies would be the same
and the moon wouldn't be lacking the same like volatile elements that are on Earth.
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Yeah.
And then...
And instead we've got the Arnold Schwarzenegger, Danny DeVito twins situation.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Now, the fourth and most widely accepted theory is the giant impact theory.
Where...
There you go.
Yes.
See, Sarge, you always get ahead of yourself.
I fucking love this theory.
You know that I'm always going to get to where you need to go, baby.
I should just shut up 90% of the time.
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You're right.
I should.
I should just shut my fucking mouth.
No, don't do that.
This show would be boring as shit.
Just me in the background.
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.
Me ranting for a half hour to...
Meanwhile, I'm in the background just like nodding my head or shaking my head.
No verbal response.
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All right, so yeah, so this theory, the giant impact theory is where a Mars sized planet,
I think it was called Theia.
I don't really...
I didn't write it down because I didn't care enough.
But anyways, so this...
It's not necessary.
This Mars sized planet collided with Earth.
Then the debris from this impact, it coalesced to form the moon.
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Now, while this theory can help explain the moon's lack of volatile elements, because
of the high energy impact like this, they'd all just be fucking evaporated.
It doesn't explain why the isotopic composition of Earth and the moon are so similar.
Basically, what that means in a nutshell is that the Earth and moon rocks are nearly identical.
If the moon were formed from a mix of the Earth and this Mars sized objects material,
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the signatures would be wildly different, but they aren't.
So again, fucking suck it, nerds.
I also like that you didn't even hesitate to explain that isotopic thing.
Like you...
Because I immediately glassed over and I'm like, oh my God, I hope he doesn't ask me
if I know what this is.
No, I don't.
I got it.
I 100% don't.
Hey, I got you, baby.
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Don't worry.
You know, I'm sorry, I always have you.
I always have you.
I know.
I'm here to guide you.
Hold your hand.
We're going to do this.
You just pick me up in your burly arms and you carry me like a baby through every episode.
God damn.
Almost got you to spit out beer.
Almost.
Almost.
One of these days you're going to get a real spit take from me because usually I just choke
it down and almost die.
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One of these days my camera, my fucking computer...
You're going to drown in your own beer.
All right.
So even so, like I said, we can't agree on how the moon was formed.
There is one thing that we can all agree on and that is that the moon is perfect.
Almost too perfect.
Like suspiciously perfect.
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Like for one, it orbits the earth in almost a perfect circle, which isn't something we
have seen with any other like planetary satellite in our solar system or any others that we've
discovered outside of our own solar system.
And the moon's position is also perfect.
The distance between the earth and the moon is about 384,400 kilometers or roughly 1 400th
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the distance of the sun.
Generally the moon is also 1 400th the size of the sun, which not only makes the moon
appear to be the same size as the sun in the night sky, it also allows for total solar
eclipses aligning perfectly between the earth and the sun.
And it is the only moon in our solar system that does this.
I mean, could this all be a coincidence and we should just accept the universe as chaos
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and there are things going on that we just want to understand?
No, Sarge, that's not what this fucking show is about.
Okay, no, no, no.
Only you only accept coincidences if you're a fucking nerd.
That's what I'm saying.
Get out of here.
Miss me with that shit.
Now, the moon is such an enigma that even scientists have come out and been like, yeah,
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this shit like it shouldn't be here at all.
Like this should not exist.
Like one scientist from NASA, Dr. Robin, Robin Brett was quoted as saying, quote, it seems
much easier to explain the non-existence of the moon than its existence.
And another Erwin Shapiro from the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics was quoted
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as saying the best possible explanation for the moon is observational error.
This is why I love science, because scientists are not afraid at any point to just be like,
oh, it's fucking weird, isn't it?
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It's crazy.
I don't know what it does.
I don't even know why it's there.
Yeah, it's bananas.
They want to say that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties,
which like we just went over all of them.
And like, so if the moon can exist scientifically, then the only other option is that it was
constructed and put there.
And now you're probably asking what evidence for this could there be?
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Well, during the Apollo missions, NASA conducted seismic experiments by crashing lunar modules
into the moon's surface.
The Apollo 12 mission deliberately crashed a module into the moon and the seismic sensors
detected vibrations that lasted over an hour.
It was described as though the moon was ringing like a bell.
They repeated these tests during the Apollo 13 and 14 missions, only now they're dropping
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larger and heavier shit down.
Yeah, basically just littering the moon.
It's just a YouTube channel of guys dropping shit to see what breaks.
I was just going to say, it's like when a bunch of dudes get together on a bridge and
throw rocks onto an icy river.
Absolutely.
Yes.
100% that.
But this time when the impacts occurred, the moon reverberate for hours.
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Now, scientists suggest that the moon's crust might just be super dry and rigid, allowing
reverberations to travel further and longer than they would on earth.
And they may be right about the moon's crust being rigid, but not because it's made of
a dry and rocky crust, but because it's the metal exterior of a space station that's inside
the moon.
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Yes.
Duh.
Fuck yeah.
I'm getting hard just thinking about it.
So the lunar surface is weird.
For one, there's an overabundance of rare metals.
Lunar rocks that were brought back from the Apollo missions contain a high concentration
of metals such as titanium and uranium.
Now, these are two materials that are highly valued for advanced engineering here on earth
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and aren't typically found in such high qualities like quantities in natural occurring formations
like there on the moon.
Right.
Take titanium.
It's used all the time in aerospace technology.
We built planes and fucking spaceships and bikes, hips, all of those things.
Yeah.
They're all made of titanium.
It's used all the time.
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It's strong, but it's lightweight.
So maybe whoever built the moon incorporated it into the moon's surface for durability
and function.
There's also strange geological features like lunar Maria, the darker planes on the moon
surface that you see and the highlands are compositionally distinct from one another.
They're completely different.
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This could be a sign of deliberate construction or layering with the highlands acting as a
stronger protective armor.
There's also the fact that the rocks and dust on the surface of the moon are older than
the rocks and dirt below the surface, which is the exact opposite as it is on earth.
Usually you'll see the younger on top, older in the bottom.
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Now this could be a sign of construction happening inside the moon.
If you're going to hollow out a planet, that shit's got to go somewhere.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It makes sense.
Yeah.
So you just put it right on the surface of the moon.
And then there's also the last thing about the surface that I want to touch on before
I throw it to you is the craters.
They are unusually uniform.
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By that I mean like no matter like the diameter of the crater, they all seem to be the same
shallow depth.
Even impact craters inside of impact craters, they don't go further down than like the impact
crater.
Like on earth, the larger the asteroid, it's going to create a wider and deeper crater.
And it's not like that on the moon.
It's something like maybe the super durable hull of a space station is preventing it from
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going deeper.
If that makes sense.
Does that make sense to you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kind of.
I mean, honestly, I wasn't expecting you to go this route because a lot of people who
deny reality, the people who are like the young earth creationists, they're like, well,
you know, God put the moon there to block asteroids or something, and they're like,
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why are the asteroids on one side of the moon perfectly round while on another side they're
oblong shaped?
And that was explained much more eloquently than I could ever possibly hope to.
But what I can say is I didn't think about that.
Like why isn't it going deeper into the moon?
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The only thing that I can think of is, you know, like on Earth, kind of like a conglomeration
of bullshit all around our crust.
You know, you've got you've got like, you know, sandstone, I mean, limestone, excuse
me, and like igneous rock in some places.
And so maybe it's just kind of softer in some areas than it is in others.
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But honestly, like, I have no fucking scientific idea as to why I'm just like, well, the Earth
is weird.
I don't really know why that would be the case.
It's a really interesting point, actually.
The only thing I can think of is that the moon is is solid as science has recently kind
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of this is science.
This is NASA, the shills, fucking liars, globalists, agenda.
This is such bullshit.
Yeah, it's yeah, exactly.
Woke scientists with their woke hard balls surrounding us.
But also this would mean that if so, even if what you're saying is true, that on Earth,
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you know, if it hits a certain spot, no matter what the size of the asteroid is going to
go deeper or smaller, depending on what material it hits.
Yeah.
Again, if the Earth or if the moon was made of or formed around or by the same material
as Earth, it should have that same characteristic.
It's like hollow or solid.
So if it's made of the same stuff, if it hits no matter where, it's going to have different
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depths of meteor impacts.
But it doesn't.
It's all uniform.
No matter no matter the size of the crater, it's all the same depth.
If it was made out of the same material as the Earth, you would see those discrepancies.
You would see like the larger the impact, the deeper the crater.
Well maybe not, because if the moon is solid, then it doesn't have a magma.
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And so it's just hitting a solid object all the way through versus hitting the Earth,
which is, you know, much like me, squishy in the middle.
I don't think.
Okay.
But anyway, it's just going to just go to that soft nougatie center, just like my boy
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Saj.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So these aren't just the weirdest things on the lunar surface.
There's been reports of structures, large towers, very geometrical shit pyramids, shit
like that.
It's also been lights and a weird mist.
And Saj, I believe.
Yes.
Oh yeah, baby.
You did some research, at least on the mist.
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I don't know if you did any on the lights.
I did.
I did on the lights and the mist.
Yeah.
So why don't we start with, why don't we start with the, with the lights and then we'll go
to the mess.
So this is, I'm going to put my NASA shill hat on for a moment.
So lights in the moon have been witnessed occasionally.
The European space agency.
It's been like 562 times over the course of like 40 years.
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All right.
Take a deep breath.
I'm sorry.
I panicked because I asked you to do research.
You just looked at Congress.
That was one time.
That was one time.
Furiously Googling as you're asking me to look it up.
No.
Okay.
So you got that.
I have faith in the world.
Good.
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Because I actually did write some stuff.
So lights in the moon have been witnessed occasionally.
The European space agency reports that claims of lights in the moon actually go back about
a thousand years.
We're going to talk about fucking Europeans, dude.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, they do have space too.
They just measure it weird.
However, the earliest official documented sighting only dates back to 1787.
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But these sightings have only gotten more frequent with the improvement of technological
advancements available to professional and amateur astronomers alike.
The official explanation attributes this to something called transient lunar phenomenon,
which is a fancy way of saying shit keeps bumping into the moon.
So given that the moon has no atmosphere, these small bits of space debris are making
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direct contact with the lunar surface rather than burning up as they hit our atmosphere.
Yeah.
So that's why we're seeing these tiny little things smash into the moon so much.
So that's the little flashes of light are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They think of it like, you know, you take two stones and you smack them together.
Sometimes you'll get a spark.
So while this is not a terribly satisfying answer, my sex date.
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I had to do it.
All right.
So basically, all of the scientists around the world are essentially just calling this
swamp gas.
But this time on the moon, it is kind of the most reasonable theory unless you buy all
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your vitamins from Alex Jones.
According to CNET.com in 2019, a new lunar telescope north of Seville, Spain will be
watching the moon every night to document and investigate this phenomenon.
All findings will be given to the European Space Agency, which has been gathering data
from another telescope in Greece since 2017.
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So far, there's been an average of one light witness to per about every two hours of footage.
So I actually have a lot of respect for the European Space Agency because they're not
fucking NASA shills.
But also because they're willing to say we really have no idea.
But we're assuming it's probably just a bunch of debris smacking into the moon, which actually
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makes a lot of sense because part of the theory that life on this planet has survived for
as long as it has is because we have the moon there as sort of like a rotating shield to
knock crap out of the way for us.
Yeah.
And that that.
Yeah.
So and then so the mist is fascinating to me, too, because I did.
I had never heard about this until you had mentioned it.
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So on March 7th, 1971, water vapor was detected on the moon.
This this vapor was picked up by two different instruments called Supra thermal ion detectors.
They were left by lunar missions.
They were left by all the lunar missions that had landed on the moon.
But this was picked up in particular by Apollo 12 and 14.
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And the vapor seemed to last roughly 14 hours before dissipating.
But to talk about how wide it was.
Yeah, it was huge.
It was huge.
It was like a what did we what did they say?
A hundred hundred square kilometers, a hundred square miles.
Yeah.
Use freedom units.
So so two scientists from Rice University, doctors Freeman and Hill suggested the water
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came as a result of a geyser on the moon, which followed a moonquake.
At the time, there was a reasonable amount of skepticism surrounding this phenomenon.
And many in the scientific community weren't even sure that there was water on the moon.
So this is kind of where their surprise came from.
Yeah.
Skepticism only grew as time wore on, partially due to the fact the instruments used to detect
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the gas related to the anomalies stopped functioning like almost all the way through the 70s.
So without any such events to compare it to, some folks would be easily led to the conclusion
that NASA was covering something up.
However, there's some reasons why this phenomenon might have happened.
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So I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
No, no, go ahead.
No, you had already asked one of the questions.
So I'd actually written the answers based on the questions you asked me.
Mine was so I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
There's no atmosphere.
So wouldn't the vape the vapor wouldn't hover for 14 hours.
It would immediately go straight into the fucking sky.
That is a great point.
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But think about it this way.
No, the moon.
While it's true, the moon has no atmosphere.
It does have gravity.
It does have gravity.
The force of the moon's gravity is roughly 80 per three, 83, 80 per three, 83 percent
less than that of Earth.
So to put that in perspective, I weigh 250 pounds on Earth or I don't know how many stones
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it is.
I'm not British.
On the moon, I would only weigh 41 pounds.
So while that force is not strong, it's still strong enough to maintain a slight hold on
on anything that is on the moon, which would include water droplets.
So assuming the sun was blocked by the earth or the moon itself, the water vapor could
have stuck around for some time until the sun evaporated it.
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So seismic activity on the moon.
So there's no core.
OK, so that's that's another fantastic question.
And I'm glad you asked it because I was actually also very guilty.
I didn't really ask.
I was so fascinated by the concept of that because I was like, why is there seismic activity?
Because my simple primate brain could not figure it out.
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Thankfully, there are scientists in the world that have degrees and they're smart people
and the moon.
So while believed to be solid, therefore no plate tectonics.
However, the seismic activity is still possible due to the moon's relationship to the earth.
It's a it's a rocky relationship.
What are we like, like, does the gravitational pull like so it's called tidal force.
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That's exactly it.
It's called force.
So it's not unique to our moon.
Jupiter's moon, Io, for instance, is a rocky moon, but the fluctuation and gravitational
pull on the near side of the moon where the force is stronger.
Yeah, it causes it to expand.
And actually, interestingly enough, Jupiter's effect on Io is so strong that it creates
heat, which forces Io's rocks to melt into magma.
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Yeah, because it fucking it's so strong that it pulls it's almost pulling it apart and
then reforming when it gets further away.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So this this to some small degree is happening on on the moon.
And it's it's also one more interesting point.
So I also looked up the moon's orbit.
And yes, you're 100 percent right.
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The moon's orbit is almost perfectly circular.
However, it is still technically an elliptical orbit.
If you were to take a pencil and draw the.
Look, man.
I had like three hours.
No, I do.
I do.
I'm just messing with you.
Is the hold on.
Hold on.
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Hear me out.
Let me finish this part and then you can ask your question.
OK, so if you were to draw the moon's orbit on a piece of paper with a pencil, the variation
in that orbit would only be about a width of the line that that pencil puts on the paper.
So it's not it's not by any means a significant variation, but it's enough of variation to
make a difference.
But so is that like gravitational pull enough to cause like the water vapors to melt to
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cause a geyser?
Is that so?
I mean, like, yeah, like so that's what it is.
It's the expanding and the pulling that cause it to evaporate the the water.
Yeah.
So essentially, you know, it just heats it up enough to turn it into gas.
And then that gas.
I actually have a theory, but we'll get to it.
So why hasn't this phenomenon been recorded more than once was another question that I
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thought about.
So I did a little bit more digging on on the equipment that we had on the moon.
And as most people know, we kind of avoided the moon after a while because we were like,
it's just there.
We don't really care about it.
Also, nobody wanted to pay for it.
So the instruments used to gather this information were really only active for about five years.
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OK.
So if the seismic activity is common on the moon, all of the landing sites were on the
near side of the moon, so the side facing Earth.
And that side of the moon reflects the sun's rays back on Earth.
Essentially, there are only a few days every month where the Earth is significantly blocking
the sun on the surface of the moon.
So it stands to reason that if these instruments remained active, we would probably have a
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few more instances because my theory on what happened is weak seismic activity due to tidal
forces caused the water to heat up from ice to gas.
The gas escaped, but was significantly less force than like a geyser on Earth, for instance,
where we have an atmosphere and everything else.
The gas then settled, trapped by the moon's gravity until eventually it was vaporized
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by the sun.
So had it been, you know, let's say this thing happened on one of the darker areas of the
moon and the gas sort of traveled across, we're not going to pick it up.
This could be happening on the other side of the moon all the time, but we won't pick
it up because we don't have any instruments.
Let's go back to my original question, which is what if it was just off gas from a nuclear
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reactor?
There is not, there is not a unit of measure on Earth right now that could make, could
put into perspective how much I want that to be true.
Well, here's the thing.
Like I really, really want it to be true.
So we talked about the, the, the moon surface being the outer crust maybe of a space station.
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So let's dive, let's, how did spaceship moon theory come into existence?
Well, in the 1970s, two Soviet scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov.
Close enough.
I would have said it wrong too.
They had a theory.
All right.
Now, according to them, the moon is a colossal spacecraft constructed by an advanced alien
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race.
Like we've been discussing, they put forth the moon's outer shell as a protective layer
while the inside houses machinery, habitats, and possibly inhabitants.
But the theory goes even deeper than that.
It's not just any spaceship.
It's a generational spaceship.
Does that make sense?
It's a yeah.
Yeah.
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It's like making, you know, them aliens be fucking, you know, and making baby aliens
pretty much in the moon.
It's a, it's a, it's a self-sustaining, it's like a colony almost.
Yeah.
It's a self-sustaining craft designed for long-term space travel designed by an ancient
civilization that was possibly facing extinction.
They hollowed it out like a planet size object and turn it into a space station pretty much.
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And like, it's like Wally.
Yeah, exactly.
Like they were, they're able to survive on it for a long period of time.
And then they traveled through the cosmos and eventually decided that earth looks like
a good driveway for them to just park in.
So they just threw a bunch of beefy boys and hover rounds in the moon.
Pretty much.
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Are we not like going full Wally?
We're just going like partial Wally.
We'll go partial Wally.
But uh.
Okay.
So they probably exercise in a little bit.
Yeah.
But what if it wasn't ancient aliens?
What if it was us?
What if humanity far in the future faced a cataclysmic event that required the moon's
existence for survival?
So using advanced technology, they traveled back in time to construct the, to construct
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and position the moon just in the right spot to stabilize earth's rotation and climate,
ensuring the conditions necessary for earth's survival.
Whoa.
Could be.
That is some Joe Rogan level nonsense right there.
And I love it.
I dig it.
Could be.
I'm in.
I mean.
Here's my only bugaboo.
All right.
What'd you got?
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Uh, if, if we were, if we were advanced enough to travel back in time and construct, uh,
this giant spacecraft, right?
Wouldn't we be advanced enough to avert our extinction entirely and not require a giant
spacecraft that can travel back in time?
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But what if this, what is this the first go around?
Like they didn't know this was going to happen.
So in the future, this is the, this is the, this is the, this is the first of its kind.
And then they were able to.
Oh, it's like a prototype.
Yeah.
Well, it's not, it's not, it's not a prototype.
Like you do it once, you don't need to do it again.
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What if it was originally a moon and the moon got fucked up?
Oh, I get what you're saying.
Okay.
So you're trying to put the moon, this moon here and then it's not, it's not standing
up on the scrutiny.
It's not trying.
I'm trying to explain the rantings of a lunatic in reasonable ways.
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And I appreciate it.
I, you were, you were doing really well.
I was following you all the way until I saw the light.
I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying to not be skeptical here.
I'm trying to be, I'm trying to dive, I'm trying to be in it.
No one wants this to be truer than I do.
Like I want to go to fucking space.
Yeah.
I mean, it bothers me that only knobs like fucking Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos
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get to play around up there.
I'm like, dude, I've been fucking pretending GI Joe guys were in space for like fucking
20 years.
You sons of bitches.
I still do it.
Piss me off.
Fucking nerds.
I'm sorry, Sarge.
That's okay.
It's all right.
I should have invested all my money into inventing things that already existed like Elon Musk.
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Yeah.
But there's a sort of go back on track.
I'm sorry for your back on track.
Sorry about that rant.
I just had a moment.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I'm okay now.
Drama.
We're back into it.
But so the, so the ancient aliens bringing the moon here and also the human travel back
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in time, there might be some weight to that theory.
I say that with the heaviest of quotations.
Some gravitational quotations.
So there are, there are many cultures like ancient cultures that have myths and stories
about a time when there was no moon in the sky.
Like it just kind of like showed up one day.
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Ancient Greek philosophers like Aristotle have referenced a quote unquote pre lunar
time indigenous tribes in South America, the Zulu people of Africa and the Chibcha people
of Columbia and many others all that last one sounds made up.
It's not.
No, it just sounded like you were like, I can't remember.
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I'm just going to say this.
No, that's what I'm just going to make a noise with my mouth.
No, I believe you.
I believe you.
But they all, they all have legends of there being no moon in the sky.
And then like, bam, there's a moon.
Like, so it's, I mean, it could be possible that the moon was built and then delivery
place there either by ancient aliens, modern aliens or future.
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Who knows humans maybe.
I know one thing's for sure.
We're not going to get to the bottom of it today.
Well, we might.
Okay.
Because, sorry, this episode's been so it's been funny games.
Yeah.
All right.
Up until this point.
But now it's time to get serious.
And we're going to talk about we're going to talk about space lasers.
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We're going to talk about the moon really is.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
It's not a celestial.
Nope.
We're going to talk about space lasers.
I'm really disappointed.
It's not a celestial body.
It's not a spaceship or a space station.
It's not even there at all because the moon is in fact a hologram.
Oh, of course.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
You're right.
It's a, it's a projection designed to hide what's really going on up there and what's
actually going on up there.
You might be wondering, I don't know.
Could be an alien base, some sort of hidden operation controlled by powerful governments
that are using it to control the narrative about space and hide secret technology.
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It's really whatever you want it to be.
Okay.
I like that you call them gummins.
I had a mini stroke.
Now, now, God damn gum.
This, this idea of the moon being a hologram gained traction pretty recently.
Thanks to quote unquote amateur astronomers like YouTuber Crowe 777, a prominent voice
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and a very serious man, a prominent voice in the hologram moon community who have claimed
to have captured quote unquote lunar waves on video.
So what is a lunar wave?
Well, it's basically a ripple like distortion that looks like it's moving across the moon
surface from the bottom of the time.
It's like when, when a VHS from the tracking is off, that one wave that goes up.
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It's pretty much that.
Or like a weird anomaly with perhaps a digital recording device.
No, no, no, no, no.
Proponents of the theory argue that the waves are glitches in the hologram.
I mean, that's all the proof I need.
Do you want to see the video?
Yeah, please, please.
And I just want to preface this by saying that there are literally millions of people
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every day who look out at the moon.
And so the fact that you can only see this with a digital camera, it tracks.
Hey, it doesn't.
Tracking is off, bro.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Swamp gas, obviously.
Yeah.
So this is this is this is Crow777 YouTube page.
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And this is the analysis of the moon hologram UFO.
I don't know what that means.
It means nothing because it's insane.
Thank you to the jungle surfer for the narration request and getting this out to his viewers.
My hope is that a lot of people get to see this.
It's the real deal.
Give me a second.
Let me get the clip started here.
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Sounds like me.
We're not that different, are we?
So the so for those listening, the screen says, having spent over a year viewing the
moon on a regular basis, I've come to the conclusion that the moon may not be what we
think it is.
There are other YouTube users who have also made some interesting lunar observation, JiveBop
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and GridKeeper as examples.
This clip is a mind bender and I'm seeking anybody else who shot this or similar footage
to contact me and compare footage and dates.
So let's let's just scrub right to the I'm so excited.
Night looking for objects.
I pan my camera down and the wave starts this hologram wave.
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I don't notice it.
You see it?
I do notice it.
It's so clearly his fucking camera.
You don't know whether it's your eyes or what you're fucking moron.
At this point, you're being so fucking stupid that you're filming the moon in a digital
camera and cannot for the life of you fathom why there would be an art like it's got to
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be a hologram wave or I don't know, maybe the piece of technology shooting the phenomenon
that you've never seen with your naked eyes, even though you definitely would be able to.
I just love that.
He keeps replaying the video in different colors and then he changed.
What a moron.
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But I mean, it's kind of cool looking, right?
Like it looks like a very cool.
It's super cool.
Looks like a wave.
Yeah.
I mean, but it's because you're your digital camera.
You fucking nutsack.
Oh my God.
Out of 20 something million sperm, this guy was the fastest.
I will say this though.
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I don't know what digital camera he's using, but God damn, that's a very high def digital
camera.
You know, he got real far.
This is from September 2012, dude.
Like that's okay.
That's that's really impressive because I was going to say like I've taken actually with
my with my Samsung phone, some pretty amazing photographs of the moon.
Yeah.
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So I like I've got a pretty good view in my backyard.
So I go out and take pictures of the moon every once in a while.
Like if I'm letting the dog out, I'm just standing out there waiting for her to come
back in.
Yeah.
I'll just like zoom in because my camera has a hundred times zoom and I'll just zoom in
on the moon and just take a quick picture.
And then if you just mess around with some of the I don't use filters, but I use like
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the different editing software tools within the camera app.
And you can, you know, you can highlight it and make it look a little bit brighter.
I'll send you a couple of pictures that I took, but yeah, bro, that's just a fucking
camera artifact.
You fucking moron.
I mean, you should be embarrassed that you thought that was a thing.
I mean, it's all the proof I need.
So yeah, right.
I'm good.
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I'm good with it.
Thank you, crow and skip Bob and grease train, whatever the fucking other guy's name was
in Spock lover 69.
You guys all really nailed it.
You got to the bottom of it.
Can I, I want to ask just one question.
If you're going to be a YouTuber trying to push these types of theories and ideas, maybe
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come up with a more credible sounding name than crow with two Rs.
Seven, seven, seven, like I've Bob probably doesn't strike a lot of confidence in most
people.
What was your question?
So if the moon and all other celestial bodies are a hologram, well, no, just the moon.
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Okay.
So, um, why to hide the alien spaceship and or the governments of the world's powerful
governments of the world are hiding behind them.
How long have they been doing that?
I remember like maybe what?
200 years ago we thought that the cold was just ghosts in people's blood.
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So it doesn't matter.
Sarge.
Okay.
When did we invent hologram technology?
Well, I guess what I'd want to know.
I mean, you've seen the Truman show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, there you go.
Ah, okay.
So we're all in a simulation.
Yeah.
Duh.
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Have you not been paying attention this whole time?
Fuck.
So thank you.
Crow and jive Bob for your deep and thorough investigation into this matter.
I really appreciate it.
Exactly.
All right.
So yeah, but that's it.
That's a, that's hollow moon, spaceship moon, holograph moon theory.
Yeah.
You feel it.
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I feel like the people who believe this probably have a higher than usual lead content in their
water.
It might live under power lines as well.
Okay.
So you're not vibing with it is what you're saying.
No.
Most of their family trees are probably just a full circle.
Okay.
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So it's a wreath, family wreath.
Yeah.
This is a product of profound inbreeding over generations.
Okay.
All right.
I mean, that's your pain.
I kind of fuck with it.
I like the idea that the moon might be.
I want it to be true.
I do.
I need more evidence than a broken digital camera.
Well, that's just a hologram.
I'm talking about all the whole thing in general.
Oh, okay.
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The whole thing.
I'm sorry.
I thought you were talking about it.
I'm talking about everything.
I don't know.
Okay.
I mean, I would fucking love that.
And honestly, like if you just suspend a little bit of disbelief, reasonable disbelief, you
know, like that's, it's kind of fun.
It's like a fun idea.
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How cool would that be?
It's not bad.
It's pretty good.
It's not bad at all.
It's not bad at all.
Yeah.
I like the idea of the hollow moon or that it's a spaceship.
Holograph moon is just the way things of people with brain damage.
Yeah.
I mean, the hollow moon, you can like literally send a balloon through our atmosphere, the
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hollow moon and the space station.
But like I fuck with that.
Holograph moon is a little too much.
Where's it projecting from?
You think it would see it.
You think that heavy cloud cover like, why would they do that?
Why would they do it?
What's the value there?
What's the point to hide the spaceship?
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But like there was clearly a time where there wasn't a moon and everybody was fine.
So just one day you turned on the moon and you were like, there it is.
Here you go.
Deal with it.
Yeah.
Or maybe the Alcoa less.
Maybe some, maybe like the, the, maybe, oh, all right.
Hear me out.
Maybe we're living in two different timelines.
Okay.
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Okay.
So hear me out.
So this is the shit that I could get into different timelines, different dimensions.
We're living in two.
All right.
So simultaneously the moon doesn't exist.
There was a cataclysmic event and we have to project the moon into the sky to make people
still feel like there is a moon while we in the current time are building the new moon
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to replace that moon, but it's to go back in time from when the shit happened.
So the moon's there and then it comes and then it blows up or whatever and then we project
the hologram moon until we can rebuild the moon again.
Does any of that make sense?
I don't know, dude.
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Only because we can like accurately predict solar eclipses and the tides.
Yeah, but we can do that from the hologram.
How?
Jesus Christ.
Now.
Doesn't matter.
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You're cooking with gas.
Jesus, fuck yeah.
You see the rest of the stack?
Yeah.
Everything's like a Matterport build like they're gonna go full talk about what's happening
in the use of who gives this fuck that's it?
Oh yeah.
It was like a whole movie series about it.
Yeah, there was, well, I don't know the series, but there's a-
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What was it called? Iron Skies or something like that?
There was a new movie that came out. Yeah, it had a fucking
Samwell Tarly from Game of Thrones and a-
Yeah.
Yeah, I haven't seen it. It looks terrible.
But that's why I want to watch it. It's like, it hits every point.
Yeah, it's a great-
It hits all the points.
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You know what's weird is halfway through recording this episode, I had a panic attack thinking that I had already covered this.
Well, when you cover enough crazy shit, you start to worry that you covered all of it.
I was super, I was like, oh fuck, did we do this?
And then I realized, no, it's just me just remembering that I knew all of a lot of this stuff before researching it.
(53:32):
Yeah.
Yeah. So that was a fun little existential crisis I had in the middle of the episode.
We'll just start redoing episodes.
Well, so here's the thing. So for those of you listening, we're coming up on two years and actually the two year anniversary of this show will be our 100th episode.
So my thing was when I first started this show, I had my buddy Colby on it.
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I gave him two options to choose from.
And they were the first two episodes we ever did together.
And I kind of want to do it because I still have those scripts and I kind of want to redo both those episodes, not because they were bad.
They're arguably two of my, of our better episodes.
But just to see the two different reactions from the two different people that have been on the show the most, does that make sense?
(54:19):
Yeah, that'd be really fun. Maybe bonus episodes.
Well, I mean, we got to pull this 100th episode. We got to do at least one of them proper.
OK, yeah, just go all the way through.
I think it'd be fun because there are two there are two of the most iconic.
We'll just call it cryptid, whatever the name and then redo R.E.D. U.X.
(54:41):
Like like hot shots with two extra Rs in it to add to add to the legitimacy.
Yeah, it'll be great. All right, Sarge, you got the old plug.
Yeah, I'm on the Internet.
Follow me on different social media platforms except for X, which is actually just Twitter.
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But worse, because I don't ever really go on there anymore.
Buy my coloring book at Sarges supernormal dot com.
It will take you to an Amazon page. The coloring book is nine ninety nine.
But there's a lot there's a lot of stuff to do in there.
There's coloring and there's activities.
And it's a great way to, you know, take out your fear and frustration on the incoming shit storm that America is about to face.
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Or you can roll it up and burn it to cook food because eventually fuel will become increasingly expensive
because of our horrible corporate overlords. Yeah.
And then we'll have to mine the moon and the moon will become unstable, it'll collapse in on itself.
And then exactly future humans will have to now build the moon and then send it back in time.
(55:52):
Yeah. So I think I think we're on to something here.
Yeah. Sarges supernormal dot com. Do it by the by the coloring book.
I'd appreciate it. Yeah. But that's all I got. Yeah.
Yes. Buy his coloring book.
Follow us on Instagram at Crypto Cocktail.
Follow us on TikTok, Crypto Cocktail Party for however long that's going to last.
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Because the government's. We're on blue sky.
We're on blue sky. I don't. Yeah. I got to give Sarge to handle that because I don't post.
I'm bad at text posts. I'm not a text post guy.
I'm Sarge the Destroyer on blue sky. Find me and then and then you'll see me posting Cryptid Cocktail Party stuff as well.
Yeah. And then leave us a rating and review, please. That'd be awesome.
(56:35):
It definitely helps out the show. I think that's it.
I don't know anything else. Yeah. I guess, you know, with that out of the way, Sarge, do you want to say goodbye and I love you to the audience?
Goodbye and I love you.
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Crypto Cocktail Party Show.
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We have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.
I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my wonderful cohost Sarge.
How is it going, Sarge?
Whoa, feeling good.
I'm feeling good.
I apologize to anyone who might be listening with headphones on.
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I'm just excited.
I just cracked an arrogance at logger.
I'm going to I'm going to have a beer and then we're going to we're going to talk
about what some shit, whatever we're talking about today.
We are going to be talking about some shit, some actually probably not literal shit,
but like it's it's not poopies, but it's weird.
Yeah.
But it was how was how was your holiday?
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Oh, I hope everyone listening had a good holiday or a lack of holiday.
What?
Depending on what you believe in or what you do, it doesn't really matter.
Just hope you had a good day off of work.
But how about you, Sarge?
How was your holiday?
It's fantastic.
I got a Grimfrost hockey jersey.
I'm a big fan of Grimfrost.
The lead singer of a Monomarth has a clothing brand and it's it's just.
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You know, right up the middle aged white guy alley.
You know, if you've got northern, northwestern European ancestry,
you're going to buy whatever Grimfrost throws at you.
And I got that could get spicy.
It could get spicy.
Just saying. Well, OK.
You could get a little far northern, far northwestern, not the guy.
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Yeah, I got you.
Fell is that got into some hot water in the 40s.
Down.
Boy, you got a little bit of hot water there.
Just for a minute.
Well, what else did you get?
You got to see you got a you got a jersey and I got Sarja Slatter.
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Hey, was he one of the very excited hot water?
Yeah.
Sarja Slatter. No, no, no, no.
He he fought them.
Yes, we fight them.
We don't we're not friends with them.
Yeah, the sort of from 1980.
He went back in time, I think.
That's how we did it.
I mean, that you get anything good.
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You get anything fun?
I got a bunch of ramen from my mom.
That's the way to do it.
I was a mom.
Is it mom of go David that Chef David something or other?
He has like a no idea restaurant.
But he picks like makes like packaged
ramen and like spicy chili oil.
So I got a bunch of those.
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My wife got me got us tickets to a show on New Year's Eve.
So nice day is going to be a fucking train wreck.
You get in trouble.
But it knows is chill.
You know, I've stayed at home with the wife, made a ham.
Also didn't realize that like ham.
You don't realize how big a ham is until you have leftover ham.
Oh, yeah. And then you're just stuck with ham for days.
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Yeah. So it's just the two of us.
And she's like, what do you want for Christmas?
There's like a ham. I was like, I'll go get a ham.
I thought you could get just like a small little guy.
No, no. So it was like it was an 11 pound ham.
And I was like, well, most of that's bone.
It has to be.
You got a pig. You basically got.
I was getting a big gravely mistake.
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So now I just have I've had ham sandwiches for lunch at work every day
for the past week and a half. Yeah.
And it's I mean, I don't hate it.
It's not bad, but I don't know how long it lasts.
I don't know how long I can keep eating ham before I.
You should probably you should probably throw it out.
But I would give it like one more day and then get rid of it.
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Yeah. But no, I mean, I froze some of it.
So I got some frozen.
That's that should be good for at least.
OK, then you're OK. Yeah.
I don't know. I got I I I learned in economics class in college.
The sunk cost fallacy.
We're like, we hang on to shit just because we paid money for it.
And so when you buy a giant ham, the sunk cost fallacy really sets in.
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You're like, God damn it. I spent 20 bucks on this ham.
And I still have 4000 pounds of it left. Yeah.
And then try to offer it to people.
You guys want some ham.
Yeah. It's like you just got to get rid of it.
It's like some point you have to recognize no matter how much money it cost you.
It's not worth the hassle of keeping an entire ham in your fridge.
Yeah. I mean, I thought I was going to eat more.
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It doesn't matter. This is not dude.
Every time I make him every time, I'm always like, why did I buy such a big ham?
Because my caveman brain in the store sees a giant pile of meat.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you're like, oh, well, of course, this is perfect.
I'm going to buy this and I'm going to eat the whole thing like Fred Flintstone.
And like one. And then, yeah, he get halfway through it after a month.
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And you're like, OK, it's probably time to get rid of the ham.
Yeah, it's time to go. Yeah.
Buy him.
All right, sorry. So we got an episode today.
It's not it's not ham based. I mean, it could be.
Who knows? It's so far. It's weird.
Today, we know we're going to be talking about a one of my favorite conspiracy
theories. We've been doing a lot more conspiracy stuff and I fucking dig it.
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I like. Yeah, I think you could tell where my interests lie,
depending on what era of the show you're listening to.
And I feel like now we're in my conspiracy theory era.
And I. Yeah, we've hit the conspiracy era. That's fine.
I mean, I know the show is called Crypto Cocktail Party, but I mean, it's it's
I wasn't going to name it Cryptid Alien Conspiracy Folklore Cocktail Party,
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because that doesn't roll off the tongue that well.
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of hard to say like cryptid mishmash a weird shit party.
Yeah. So I mean, I know we've been lacking on cryptos, but today I got a good one.
I promise we're going to talk about my favorite one that I've ever come across.
And that is the Hollow Moon Theory.
Now, are you familiar with it at all?
I feel like you probably would be. I feel like it's right up your alley.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I so I my mom had a friend
and this friend lived with us at one point in the apartment.
A mom friend. Oh, yeah. Already great.
So this lady was she was nuttier than a fruitcake.
My mom, my mom was very close with her until she moved in
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and became a nightmare to live with.
But for the brief time period before
we stopped talking to this woman,
she was all about conspiracy theories.
And at the time, I was just like, oh, man, she's really smart and with it.
And then I as an adult now, I'm like, oh, she was not somebody
a child should have been around.
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But she firmly believed in the hollow earth and hollow moon theories.
OK, so at least there was consistency, you know, she wasn't like,
well, the earth is hollow, but the moon is solid.
Let's not go crazy. Well, I mean, she was consistent.
Across the board, to be fair, flat earthers believe that the earth is flat,
but every other planet in the solar system is not all of them.
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Some of them think that the celestial bodies are just projections on a dome
because their brains are made of sawdust.
OK, you might be foreshadowing a little bit of what's coming up because.
Oh, snap. For those of you don't know, the hollow moon theory,
it's not just that the moon is hollow.
There's it's kind of like flat earth in a way that like
there's different types of flat earth.
So it's like there's flat earth. There's dome earth.
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There's convex earth. There's fucking triangle earth.
There's an earth on the back of a giant turtle.
It's a whole thing.
Wait, there's a triangle earth.
I just want to know how that was like a D for.
We're not. How does that work?
Kind of, yeah. But we're not talking about that today.
Man, I got to look that up because I I mean, it's already stupid
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to think the earth is flat. Yeah.
Because of all the evidence throughout the history of mankind.
But to think it's a try, that's a that's a new this corners there.
They know there's corners on a triangle.
I don't fully understand. You know what?
I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to stop.
This is a different episode.
Yeah, we need to we need to cover all the D20 earths.
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Yeah. The the other important distinction is that like
unlike hollow earth, hollow moon is a lot different.
So hollow earth, there's like either, you know, the tunnels
where fucking Godzilla comes in or, you know, there's like lumary,
like that whole thing, like their secret.
This is a little bit different.
So, yeah, the the hollow merians, the hollow moon theory suggests
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that the moon is not a natural satellite, but is actually a hollow
artificial structure that was placed in Earth's orbit by.
Aliens. No, I don't.
Who? Hey, man, I didn't say you said it, but I thought I thought
this was like an open ended
because it was I was going to go aliens, possibly the Jews, maybe yetis.
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Well, I mean, like most conspiracy theories,
there's there's never like a jet, like there's no one.
There's like a ton of different explanations ranging from right
ancient aliens all the way to future humans.
So basically just full circle.
But they came back in time just to put a giant satellite there.
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Yeah. And we'll get into that.
But to understand why, please do to understand why people think
that the moon is hollow, we got to start with the basics. OK. OK.
And this is this this episode is going to be very information heavy.
So if it gets real boring, I'm apologize.
It's OK. I did some research to let's let's get into it.
All right. For one, we don't know how the moon came into existence.
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And I mean that in the sense that there's no general consensus
among scientists on how the moon was formed.
And there's a bunch of different competing theories as to how.
But all of them come with their own problems and reasons why.
I mean, I think we're starting to get to a prevailing theory, though,
like the more the more generally accepted theory, I think.
And maybe I'm wrong here, but well, I believe that the what?
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Let me get through my.
Oh, I'll let you get you through yours.
But like the only reason I even I even thought of this is because I was trying
to explain it to one of my children who halfway through just started playing
Sonic and was not paying attention to me at all. Yeah.
Well, one hypothesis is the fission theory.
Now, this theory suggests that when the earth was still molten,
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it was spinning so fast that centrifugal force just separated
like a huge chunk of it, like it just broke off, like of the earth.
And that formed the moon.
The problem with this theory is that the composition of the moon
and the earth don't match.
Well, they do share similarities.
Lunar rocks lack significant quantities of different compounds
that are abundant on Earth, suggesting that the moon did not form
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from Earth material directly.
The other problem with this theory is that the moon's density,
the moon's density is three point three four grams per cubic centimeter,
and it is much lower than the Earth's density,
which is five point five two grams per cubic centimeter.
If the moon was a chunk of the earth, the density should be similar,
if not like almost exactly the same.
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And they are so suck it, nerds.
Why aren't you using just out of curiosity, why aren't you using freedom units?
Because I don't think it matters and I don't know what any of this means anyways.
I couldn't tell you what a fucking gram per whatever is.
Yeah, I grams.
I think that should only be used to measure drugs.
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And crackers.
You're not wrong, but I mean, the.
You say and crackers.
Yeah.
Yeah, a gram cracker.
It's one gram of crackers.
So much.
Wouldn't it be wild if that was actually accurate?
We're moving on.
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Again, information heavy.
The second theory is the capture theory.
Now, this theory suggests that the moon forms somewhere else,
like outside of the solar system, and it was traveling through
and it just happened to get captured up in Earth's gravitational pull.
The problem with this one is that the moon's like it has an almost perfectly circular orbit.
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It's like almost too precise to be the result of some chaotic capture event.
And moons that are captured by bigger planets usually have like a more elliptical orbit.
Like it's never going to be that perfect of a circle.
There's also the fact that for the moon to be captured without just fucking like slamming
directly into Earth or just like whizzing right past us,
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there would have had to have been like a third object for the moon to either like bump into
or their gravitational pull helps slow it down.
Enough to the point where...
The three body problem.
It's not what that is, but it just that's the first thing that came to my head.
I mean, it's kind of true.
Like it needed another like a third thing to just slow it down enough so that it could be captured.
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And as of right now, there's no evidence of a third planetary body or something.
For that to have happened.
The third theory is the co-formation theory.
And it's pretty much exactly what the name suggests.
It's basically like the moon and the Earth were formed like together at the same time
from the same like stardust like primordial material.
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Like in the early forms of the solar system.
It's like that's how like Jupiter and Saturn got their moons.
They all like formed together.
The problem with this theory is pretty much the same as like the first one.
Where if it was made of the same material, the density of both bodies would be the same
and the moon wouldn't be lacking the same like volatile elements that are on Earth.
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Yeah.
And then...
And instead we've got the Arnold Schwarzenegger, Danny DeVito twins situation.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Now, the fourth and most widely accepted theory is the giant impact theory.
Where...
There you go.
Yes.
See, Sarge, you always get ahead of yourself.
I fucking love this theory.
You know that I'm always going to get to where you need to go, baby.
I should just shut up 90% of the time.
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You're right.
I should.
I should just shut my fucking mouth.
No, don't do that.
This show would be boring as shit.
Just me in the background.
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.
Me ranting for a half hour to...
Meanwhile, I'm in the background just like nodding my head or shaking my head.
No verbal response.
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All right, so yeah, so this theory, the giant impact theory is where a Mars sized planet,
I think it was called Theia.
I don't really...
I didn't write it down because I didn't care enough.
But anyways, so this...
It's not necessary.
This Mars sized planet collided with Earth.
Then the debris from this impact, it coalesced to form the moon.
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Now, while this theory can help explain the moon's lack of volatile elements, because
of the high energy impact like this, they'd all just be fucking evaporated.
It doesn't explain why the isotopic composition of Earth and the moon are so similar.
Basically, what that means in a nutshell is that the Earth and moon rocks are nearly identical.
If the moon were formed from a mix of the Earth and this Mars sized objects material,
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the signatures would be wildly different, but they aren't.
So again, fucking suck it, nerds.
I also like that you didn't even hesitate to explain that isotopic thing.
Like you...
Because I immediately glassed over and I'm like, oh my God, I hope he doesn't ask me
if I know what this is.
No, I don't.
I got it.
I 100% don't.
Hey, I got you, baby.
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Don't worry.
You know, I'm sorry, I always have you.
I always have you.
I know.
I'm here to guide you.
Hold your hand.
We're going to do this.
You just pick me up in your burly arms and you carry me like a baby through every episode.
God damn.
Almost got you to spit out beer.
Almost.
Almost.
One of these days you're going to get a real spit take from me because usually I just choke
it down and almost die.
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One of these days my camera, my fucking computer...
You're going to drown in your own beer.
All right.
So even so, like I said, we can't agree on how the moon was formed.
There is one thing that we can all agree on and that is that the moon is perfect.
Almost too perfect.
Like suspiciously perfect.
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Like for one, it orbits the earth in almost a perfect circle, which isn't something we
have seen with any other like planetary satellite in our solar system or any others that we've
discovered outside of our own solar system.
And the moon's position is also perfect.
The distance between the earth and the moon is about 384,400 kilometers or roughly 1 400th
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the distance of the sun.
Generally the moon is also 1 400th the size of the sun, which not only makes the moon
appear to be the same size as the sun in the night sky, it also allows for total solar
eclipses aligning perfectly between the earth and the sun.
And it is the only moon in our solar system that does this.
I mean, could this all be a coincidence and we should just accept the universe as chaos
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and there are things going on that we just want to understand?
No, Sarge, that's not what this fucking show is about.
Okay, no, no, no.
Only you only accept coincidences if you're a fucking nerd.
That's what I'm saying.
Get out of here.
Miss me with that shit.
Now, the moon is such an enigma that even scientists have come out and been like, yeah,
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this shit like it shouldn't be here at all.
Like this should not exist.
Like one scientist from NASA, Dr. Robin, Robin Brett was quoted as saying, quote, it seems
much easier to explain the non-existence of the moon than its existence.
And another Erwin Shapiro from the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics was quoted
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as saying the best possible explanation for the moon is observational error.
This is why I love science, because scientists are not afraid at any point to just be like,
oh, it's fucking weird, isn't it?
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It's crazy.
I don't know what it does.
I don't even know why it's there.
Yeah, it's bananas.
They want to say that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties,
which like we just went over all of them.
And like, so if the moon can exist scientifically, then the only other option is that it was
constructed and put there.
And now you're probably asking what evidence for this could there be?
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Well, during the Apollo missions, NASA conducted seismic experiments by crashing lunar modules
into the moon's surface.
The Apollo 12 mission deliberately crashed a module into the moon and the seismic sensors
detected vibrations that lasted over an hour.
It was described as though the moon was ringing like a bell.
They repeated these tests during the Apollo 13 and 14 missions, only now they're dropping
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larger and heavier shit down.
Yeah, basically just littering the moon.
It's just a YouTube channel of guys dropping shit to see what breaks.
I was just going to say, it's like when a bunch of dudes get together on a bridge and
throw rocks onto an icy river.
Absolutely.
Yes.
100% that.
But this time when the impacts occurred, the moon reverberate for hours.
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Now, scientists suggest that the moon's crust might just be super dry and rigid, allowing
reverberations to travel further and longer than they would on earth.
And they may be right about the moon's crust being rigid, but not because it's made of
a dry and rocky crust, but because it's the metal exterior of a space station that's inside
the moon.
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Yes.
Duh.
Fuck yeah.
I'm getting hard just thinking about it.
So the lunar surface is weird.
For one, there's an overabundance of rare metals.
Lunar rocks that were brought back from the Apollo missions contain a high concentration
of metals such as titanium and uranium.
Now, these are two materials that are highly valued for advanced engineering here on earth
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and aren't typically found in such high qualities like quantities in natural occurring formations
like there on the moon.
Right.
Take titanium.
It's used all the time in aerospace technology.
We built planes and fucking spaceships and bikes, hips, all of those things.
Yeah.
They're all made of titanium.
It's used all the time.
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It's strong, but it's lightweight.
So maybe whoever built the moon incorporated it into the moon's surface for durability
and function.
There's also strange geological features like lunar Maria, the darker planes on the moon
surface that you see and the highlands are compositionally distinct from one another.
They're completely different.
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This could be a sign of deliberate construction or layering with the highlands acting as a
stronger protective armor.
There's also the fact that the rocks and dust on the surface of the moon are older than
the rocks and dirt below the surface, which is the exact opposite as it is on earth.
Usually you'll see the younger on top, older in the bottom.
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Now this could be a sign of construction happening inside the moon.
If you're going to hollow out a planet, that shit's got to go somewhere.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It makes sense.
Yeah.
So you just put it right on the surface of the moon.
And then there's also the last thing about the surface that I want to touch on before
I throw it to you is the craters.
They are unusually uniform.
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By that I mean like no matter like the diameter of the crater, they all seem to be the same
shallow depth.
Even impact craters inside of impact craters, they don't go further down than like the impact
crater.
Like on earth, the larger the asteroid, it's going to create a wider and deeper crater.
And it's not like that on the moon.
It's something like maybe the super durable hull of a space station is preventing it from
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going deeper.
If that makes sense.
Does that make sense to you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kind of.
I mean, honestly, I wasn't expecting you to go this route because a lot of people who
deny reality, the people who are like the young earth creationists, they're like, well,
you know, God put the moon there to block asteroids or something, and they're like,
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why are the asteroids on one side of the moon perfectly round while on another side they're
oblong shaped?
And that was explained much more eloquently than I could ever possibly hope to.
But what I can say is I didn't think about that.
Like why isn't it going deeper into the moon?
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The only thing that I can think of is, you know, like on Earth, kind of like a conglomeration
of bullshit all around our crust.
You know, you've got you've got like, you know, sandstone, I mean, limestone, excuse
me, and like igneous rock in some places.
And so maybe it's just kind of softer in some areas than it is in others.
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But honestly, like, I have no fucking scientific idea as to why I'm just like, well, the Earth
is weird.
I don't really know why that would be the case.
It's a really interesting point, actually.
The only thing I can think of is that the moon is is solid as science has recently kind
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of this is science.
This is NASA, the shills, fucking liars, globalists, agenda.
This is such bullshit.
Yeah, it's yeah, exactly.
Woke scientists with their woke hard balls surrounding us.
But also this would mean that if so, even if what you're saying is true, that on Earth,
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you know, if it hits a certain spot, no matter what the size of the asteroid is going to
go deeper or smaller, depending on what material it hits.
Yeah.
Again, if the Earth or if the moon was made of or formed around or by the same material
as Earth, it should have that same characteristic.
It's like hollow or solid.
So if it's made of the same stuff, if it hits no matter where, it's going to have different
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depths of meteor impacts.
But it doesn't.
It's all uniform.
No matter no matter the size of the crater, it's all the same depth.
If it was made out of the same material as the Earth, you would see those discrepancies.
You would see like the larger the impact, the deeper the crater.
Well maybe not, because if the moon is solid, then it doesn't have a magma.
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And so it's just hitting a solid object all the way through versus hitting the Earth,
which is, you know, much like me, squishy in the middle.
I don't think.
Okay.
But anyway, it's just going to just go to that soft nougatie center, just like my boy
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Saj.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So these aren't just the weirdest things on the lunar surface.
There's been reports of structures, large towers, very geometrical shit pyramids, shit
like that.
It's also been lights and a weird mist.
And Saj, I believe.
Yes.
Oh yeah, baby.
You did some research, at least on the mist.
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I don't know if you did any on the lights.
I did.
I did on the lights and the mist.
Yeah.
So why don't we start with, why don't we start with the, with the lights and then we'll go
to the mess.
So this is, I'm going to put my NASA shill hat on for a moment.
So lights in the moon have been witnessed occasionally.
The European space agency.
It's been like 562 times over the course of like 40 years.
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All right.
Take a deep breath.
I'm sorry.
I panicked because I asked you to do research.
You just looked at Congress.
That was one time.
That was one time.
Furiously Googling as you're asking me to look it up.
No.
Okay.
So you got that.
I have faith in the world.
Good.
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Because I actually did write some stuff.
So lights in the moon have been witnessed occasionally.
The European space agency reports that claims of lights in the moon actually go back about
a thousand years.
We're going to talk about fucking Europeans, dude.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, they do have space too.
They just measure it weird.
However, the earliest official documented sighting only dates back to 1787.
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But these sightings have only gotten more frequent with the improvement of technological
advancements available to professional and amateur astronomers alike.
The official explanation attributes this to something called transient lunar phenomenon,
which is a fancy way of saying shit keeps bumping into the moon.
So given that the moon has no atmosphere, these small bits of space debris are making
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direct contact with the lunar surface rather than burning up as they hit our atmosphere.
Yeah.
So that's why we're seeing these tiny little things smash into the moon so much.
So that's the little flashes of light are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They think of it like, you know, you take two stones and you smack them together.
Sometimes you'll get a spark.
So while this is not a terribly satisfying answer, my sex date.
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I had to do it.
All right.
So basically, all of the scientists around the world are essentially just calling this
swamp gas.
But this time on the moon, it is kind of the most reasonable theory unless you buy all
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your vitamins from Alex Jones.
According to CNET.com in 2019, a new lunar telescope north of Seville, Spain will be
watching the moon every night to document and investigate this phenomenon.
All findings will be given to the European Space Agency, which has been gathering data
from another telescope in Greece since 2017.
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So far, there's been an average of one light witness to per about every two hours of footage.
So I actually have a lot of respect for the European Space Agency because they're not
fucking NASA shills.
But also because they're willing to say we really have no idea.
But we're assuming it's probably just a bunch of debris smacking into the moon, which actually
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makes a lot of sense because part of the theory that life on this planet has survived for
as long as it has is because we have the moon there as sort of like a rotating shield to
knock crap out of the way for us.
Yeah.
And that that.
Yeah.
So and then so the mist is fascinating to me, too, because I did.
I had never heard about this until you had mentioned it.
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So on March 7th, 1971, water vapor was detected on the moon.
This this vapor was picked up by two different instruments called Supra thermal ion detectors.
They were left by lunar missions.
They were left by all the lunar missions that had landed on the moon.
But this was picked up in particular by Apollo 12 and 14.
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And the vapor seemed to last roughly 14 hours before dissipating.
But to talk about how wide it was.
Yeah, it was huge.
It was huge.
It was like a what did we what did they say?
A hundred hundred square kilometers, a hundred square miles.
Yeah.
Use freedom units.
So so two scientists from Rice University, doctors Freeman and Hill suggested the water
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came as a result of a geyser on the moon, which followed a moonquake.
At the time, there was a reasonable amount of skepticism surrounding this phenomenon.
And many in the scientific community weren't even sure that there was water on the moon.
So this is kind of where their surprise came from.
Yeah.
Skepticism only grew as time wore on, partially due to the fact the instruments used to detect
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the gas related to the anomalies stopped functioning like almost all the way through the 70s.
So without any such events to compare it to, some folks would be easily led to the conclusion
that NASA was covering something up.
However, there's some reasons why this phenomenon might have happened.
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So I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
No, no, go ahead.
No, you had already asked one of the questions.
So I'd actually written the answers based on the questions you asked me.
Mine was so I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
There's no atmosphere.
So wouldn't the vape the vapor wouldn't hover for 14 hours.
It would immediately go straight into the fucking sky.
That is a great point.
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But think about it this way.
No, the moon.
While it's true, the moon has no atmosphere.
It does have gravity.
It does have gravity.
The force of the moon's gravity is roughly 80 per three, 83, 80 per three, 83 percent
less than that of Earth.
So to put that in perspective, I weigh 250 pounds on Earth or I don't know how many stones
(30:58):
it is.
I'm not British.
On the moon, I would only weigh 41 pounds.
So while that force is not strong, it's still strong enough to maintain a slight hold on
on anything that is on the moon, which would include water droplets.
So assuming the sun was blocked by the earth or the moon itself, the water vapor could
have stuck around for some time until the sun evaporated it.
(31:20):
So seismic activity on the moon.
So there's no core.
OK, so that's that's another fantastic question.
And I'm glad you asked it because I was actually also very guilty.
I didn't really ask.
I was so fascinated by the concept of that because I was like, why is there seismic activity?
Because my simple primate brain could not figure it out.
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Thankfully, there are scientists in the world that have degrees and they're smart people
and the moon.
So while believed to be solid, therefore no plate tectonics.
However, the seismic activity is still possible due to the moon's relationship to the earth.
It's a it's a rocky relationship.
What are we like, like, does the gravitational pull like so it's called tidal force.
(32:05):
That's exactly it.
It's called force.
So it's not unique to our moon.
Jupiter's moon, Io, for instance, is a rocky moon, but the fluctuation and gravitational
pull on the near side of the moon where the force is stronger.
Yeah, it causes it to expand.
And actually, interestingly enough, Jupiter's effect on Io is so strong that it creates
heat, which forces Io's rocks to melt into magma.
(32:26):
Yeah, because it fucking it's so strong that it pulls it's almost pulling it apart and
then reforming when it gets further away.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So this this to some small degree is happening on on the moon.
And it's it's also one more interesting point.
So I also looked up the moon's orbit.
And yes, you're 100 percent right.
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The moon's orbit is almost perfectly circular.
However, it is still technically an elliptical orbit.
If you were to take a pencil and draw the.
Look, man.
I had like three hours.
No, I do.
I do.
I'm just messing with you.
Is the hold on.
Hold on.
(33:08):
Hear me out.
Let me finish this part and then you can ask your question.
OK, so if you were to draw the moon's orbit on a piece of paper with a pencil, the variation
in that orbit would only be about a width of the line that that pencil puts on the paper.
So it's not it's not by any means a significant variation, but it's enough of variation to
make a difference.
But so is that like gravitational pull enough to cause like the water vapors to melt to
(33:33):
cause a geyser?
Is that so?
I mean, like, yeah, like so that's what it is.
It's the expanding and the pulling that cause it to evaporate the the water.
Yeah.
So essentially, you know, it just heats it up enough to turn it into gas.
And then that gas.
I actually have a theory, but we'll get to it.
So why hasn't this phenomenon been recorded more than once was another question that I
(33:55):
thought about.
So I did a little bit more digging on on the equipment that we had on the moon.
And as most people know, we kind of avoided the moon after a while because we were like,
it's just there.
We don't really care about it.
Also, nobody wanted to pay for it.
So the instruments used to gather this information were really only active for about five years.
(34:17):
OK.
So if the seismic activity is common on the moon, all of the landing sites were on the
near side of the moon, so the side facing Earth.
And that side of the moon reflects the sun's rays back on Earth.
Essentially, there are only a few days every month where the Earth is significantly blocking
the sun on the surface of the moon.
So it stands to reason that if these instruments remained active, we would probably have a
(34:40):
few more instances because my theory on what happened is weak seismic activity due to tidal
forces caused the water to heat up from ice to gas.
The gas escaped, but was significantly less force than like a geyser on Earth, for instance,
where we have an atmosphere and everything else.
The gas then settled, trapped by the moon's gravity until eventually it was vaporized
(35:03):
by the sun.
So had it been, you know, let's say this thing happened on one of the darker areas of the
moon and the gas sort of traveled across, we're not going to pick it up.
This could be happening on the other side of the moon all the time, but we won't pick
it up because we don't have any instruments.
Let's go back to my original question, which is what if it was just off gas from a nuclear
(35:25):
reactor?
There is not, there is not a unit of measure on Earth right now that could make, could
put into perspective how much I want that to be true.
Well, here's the thing.
Like I really, really want it to be true.
So we talked about the, the, the moon surface being the outer crust maybe of a space station.
(35:48):
So let's dive, let's, how did spaceship moon theory come into existence?
Well, in the 1970s, two Soviet scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov.
Close enough.
I would have said it wrong too.
They had a theory.
All right.
Now, according to them, the moon is a colossal spacecraft constructed by an advanced alien
(36:13):
race.
Like we've been discussing, they put forth the moon's outer shell as a protective layer
while the inside houses machinery, habitats, and possibly inhabitants.
But the theory goes even deeper than that.
It's not just any spaceship.
It's a generational spaceship.
Does that make sense?
It's a yeah.
Yeah.
(36:33):
It's like making, you know, them aliens be fucking, you know, and making baby aliens
pretty much in the moon.
It's a, it's a, it's a self-sustaining, it's like a colony almost.
Yeah.
It's a self-sustaining craft designed for long-term space travel designed by an ancient
civilization that was possibly facing extinction.
They hollowed it out like a planet size object and turn it into a space station pretty much.
(36:57):
And like, it's like Wally.
Yeah, exactly.
Like they were, they're able to survive on it for a long period of time.
And then they traveled through the cosmos and eventually decided that earth looks like
a good driveway for them to just park in.
So they just threw a bunch of beefy boys and hover rounds in the moon.
Pretty much.
(37:18):
Are we not like going full Wally?
We're just going like partial Wally.
We'll go partial Wally.
But uh.
Okay.
So they probably exercise in a little bit.
Yeah.
But what if it wasn't ancient aliens?
What if it was us?
What if humanity far in the future faced a cataclysmic event that required the moon's
existence for survival?
So using advanced technology, they traveled back in time to construct the, to construct
(37:42):
and position the moon just in the right spot to stabilize earth's rotation and climate,
ensuring the conditions necessary for earth's survival.
Whoa.
Could be.
That is some Joe Rogan level nonsense right there.
And I love it.
I dig it.
Could be.
I'm in.
I mean.
Here's my only bugaboo.
All right.
What'd you got?
(38:02):
Uh, if, if we were, if we were advanced enough to travel back in time and construct, uh,
this giant spacecraft, right?
Wouldn't we be advanced enough to avert our extinction entirely and not require a giant
spacecraft that can travel back in time?
(38:24):
But what if this, what is this the first go around?
Like they didn't know this was going to happen.
So in the future, this is the, this is the, this is the, this is the first of its kind.
And then they were able to.
Oh, it's like a prototype.
Yeah.
Well, it's not, it's not, it's not a prototype.
Like you do it once, you don't need to do it again.
(38:44):
What if it was originally a moon and the moon got fucked up?
Oh, I get what you're saying.
Okay.
So you're trying to put the moon, this moon here and then it's not, it's not standing
up on the scrutiny.
It's not trying.
I'm trying to explain the rantings of a lunatic in reasonable ways.
(39:09):
And I appreciate it.
I, you were, you were doing really well.
I was following you all the way until I saw the light.
I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying to not be skeptical here.
I'm trying to be, I'm trying to dive, I'm trying to be in it.
No one wants this to be truer than I do.
Like I want to go to fucking space.
Yeah.
I mean, it bothers me that only knobs like fucking Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos
(39:36):
get to play around up there.
I'm like, dude, I've been fucking pretending GI Joe guys were in space for like fucking
20 years.
You sons of bitches.
I still do it.
Piss me off.
Fucking nerds.
I'm sorry, Sarge.
That's okay.
It's all right.
I should have invested all my money into inventing things that already existed like Elon Musk.
(39:56):
Yeah.
But there's a sort of go back on track.
I'm sorry for your back on track.
Sorry about that rant.
I just had a moment.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I'm okay now.
Drama.
We're back into it.
But so the, so the ancient aliens bringing the moon here and also the human travel back
(40:18):
in time, there might be some weight to that theory.
I say that with the heaviest of quotations.
Some gravitational quotations.
So there are, there are many cultures like ancient cultures that have myths and stories
about a time when there was no moon in the sky.
Like it just kind of like showed up one day.
(40:40):
Ancient Greek philosophers like Aristotle have referenced a quote unquote pre lunar
time indigenous tribes in South America, the Zulu people of Africa and the Chibcha people
of Columbia and many others all that last one sounds made up.
It's not.
No, it just sounded like you were like, I can't remember.
(41:01):
I'm just going to say this.
No, that's what I'm just going to make a noise with my mouth.
No, I believe you.
I believe you.
But they all, they all have legends of there being no moon in the sky.
And then like, bam, there's a moon.
Like, so it's, I mean, it could be possible that the moon was built and then delivery
place there either by ancient aliens, modern aliens or future.
(41:27):
Who knows humans maybe.
I know one thing's for sure.
We're not going to get to the bottom of it today.
Well, we might.
Okay.
Because, sorry, this episode's been so it's been funny games.
Yeah.
All right.
Up until this point.
But now it's time to get serious.
And we're going to talk about we're going to talk about space lasers.
(41:49):
We're going to talk about the moon really is.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
It's not a celestial.
Nope.
We're going to talk about space lasers.
I'm really disappointed.
It's not a celestial body.
It's not a spaceship or a space station.
It's not even there at all because the moon is in fact a hologram.
Oh, of course.
(42:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
You're right.
It's a, it's a projection designed to hide what's really going on up there and what's
actually going on up there.
You might be wondering, I don't know.
Could be an alien base, some sort of hidden operation controlled by powerful governments
that are using it to control the narrative about space and hide secret technology.
(42:33):
It's really whatever you want it to be.
Okay.
I like that you call them gummins.
I had a mini stroke.
Now, now, God damn gum.
This, this idea of the moon being a hologram gained traction pretty recently.
Thanks to quote unquote amateur astronomers like YouTuber Crowe 777, a prominent voice
(42:57):
and a very serious man, a prominent voice in the hologram moon community who have claimed
to have captured quote unquote lunar waves on video.
So what is a lunar wave?
Well, it's basically a ripple like distortion that looks like it's moving across the moon
surface from the bottom of the time.
It's like when, when a VHS from the tracking is off, that one wave that goes up.
(43:21):
It's pretty much that.
Or like a weird anomaly with perhaps a digital recording device.
No, no, no, no, no.
Proponents of the theory argue that the waves are glitches in the hologram.
I mean, that's all the proof I need.
Do you want to see the video?
Yeah, please, please.
And I just want to preface this by saying that there are literally millions of people
(43:45):
every day who look out at the moon.
And so the fact that you can only see this with a digital camera, it tracks.
Hey, it doesn't.
Tracking is off, bro.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Swamp gas, obviously.
Yeah.
So this is this is this is Crow777 YouTube page.
(44:06):
And this is the analysis of the moon hologram UFO.
I don't know what that means.
It means nothing because it's insane.
Thank you to the jungle surfer for the narration request and getting this out to his viewers.
My hope is that a lot of people get to see this.
It's the real deal.
Give me a second.
Let me get the clip started here.
(44:30):
Sounds like me.
We're not that different, are we?
So the so for those listening, the screen says, having spent over a year viewing the
moon on a regular basis, I've come to the conclusion that the moon may not be what we
think it is.
There are other YouTube users who have also made some interesting lunar observation, JiveBop
(44:53):
and GridKeeper as examples.
This clip is a mind bender and I'm seeking anybody else who shot this or similar footage
to contact me and compare footage and dates.
So let's let's just scrub right to the I'm so excited.
Night looking for objects.
I pan my camera down and the wave starts this hologram wave.
(45:15):
I don't notice it.
You see it?
I do notice it.
It's so clearly his fucking camera.
You don't know whether it's your eyes or what you're fucking moron.
At this point, you're being so fucking stupid that you're filming the moon in a digital
camera and cannot for the life of you fathom why there would be an art like it's got to
(45:38):
be a hologram wave or I don't know, maybe the piece of technology shooting the phenomenon
that you've never seen with your naked eyes, even though you definitely would be able to.
I just love that.
He keeps replaying the video in different colors and then he changed.
What a moron.
(45:58):
But I mean, it's kind of cool looking, right?
Like it looks like a very cool.
It's super cool.
Looks like a wave.
Yeah.
I mean, but it's because you're your digital camera.
You fucking nutsack.
Oh my God.
Out of 20 something million sperm, this guy was the fastest.
I will say this though.
(46:18):
I don't know what digital camera he's using, but God damn, that's a very high def digital
camera.
You know, he got real far.
This is from September 2012, dude.
Like that's okay.
That's that's really impressive because I was going to say like I've taken actually with
my with my Samsung phone, some pretty amazing photographs of the moon.
Yeah.
(46:39):
So I like I've got a pretty good view in my backyard.
So I go out and take pictures of the moon every once in a while.
Like if I'm letting the dog out, I'm just standing out there waiting for her to come
back in.
Yeah.
I'll just like zoom in because my camera has a hundred times zoom and I'll just zoom in
on the moon and just take a quick picture.
And then if you just mess around with some of the I don't use filters, but I use like
(47:02):
the different editing software tools within the camera app.
And you can, you know, you can highlight it and make it look a little bit brighter.
I'll send you a couple of pictures that I took, but yeah, bro, that's just a fucking
camera artifact.
You fucking moron.
I mean, you should be embarrassed that you thought that was a thing.
I mean, it's all the proof I need.
So yeah, right.
I'm good.
(47:23):
I'm good with it.
Thank you, crow and skip Bob and grease train, whatever the fucking other guy's name was
in Spock lover 69.
You guys all really nailed it.
You got to the bottom of it.
Can I, I want to ask just one question.
If you're going to be a YouTuber trying to push these types of theories and ideas, maybe
(47:44):
come up with a more credible sounding name than crow with two Rs.
Seven, seven, seven, like I've Bob probably doesn't strike a lot of confidence in most
people.
What was your question?
So if the moon and all other celestial bodies are a hologram, well, no, just the moon.
(48:08):
Okay.
So, um, why to hide the alien spaceship and or the governments of the world's powerful
governments of the world are hiding behind them.
How long have they been doing that?
I remember like maybe what?
200 years ago we thought that the cold was just ghosts in people's blood.
(48:29):
So it doesn't matter.
Sarge.
Okay.
When did we invent hologram technology?
Well, I guess what I'd want to know.
I mean, you've seen the Truman show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, there you go.
Ah, okay.
So we're all in a simulation.
Yeah.
Duh.
(48:49):
Have you not been paying attention this whole time?
Fuck.
So thank you.
Crow and jive Bob for your deep and thorough investigation into this matter.
I really appreciate it.
Exactly.
All right.
So yeah, but that's it.
That's a, that's hollow moon, spaceship moon, holograph moon theory.
Yeah.
You feel it.
(49:10):
I feel like the people who believe this probably have a higher than usual lead content in their
water.
It might live under power lines as well.
Okay.
So you're not vibing with it is what you're saying.
No.
Most of their family trees are probably just a full circle.
Okay.
(49:31):
So it's a wreath, family wreath.
Yeah.
This is a product of profound inbreeding over generations.
Okay.
All right.
I mean, that's your pain.
I kind of fuck with it.
I like the idea that the moon might be.
I want it to be true.
I do.
I need more evidence than a broken digital camera.
Well, that's just a hologram.
I'm talking about all the whole thing in general.
Oh, okay.
(49:51):
The whole thing.
I'm sorry.
I thought you were talking about it.
I'm talking about everything.
I don't know.
Okay.
I mean, I would fucking love that.
And honestly, like if you just suspend a little bit of disbelief, reasonable disbelief, you
know, like that's, it's kind of fun.
It's like a fun idea.
(50:12):
How cool would that be?
It's not bad.
It's pretty good.
It's not bad at all.
It's not bad at all.
Yeah.
I like the idea of the hollow moon or that it's a spaceship.
Holograph moon is just the way things of people with brain damage.
Yeah.
I mean, the hollow moon, you can like literally send a balloon through our atmosphere, the
(50:32):
hollow moon and the space station.
But like I fuck with that.
Holograph moon is a little too much.
Where's it projecting from?
You think it would see it.
You think that heavy cloud cover like, why would they do that?
Why would they do it?
What's the value there?
What's the point to hide the spaceship?
(50:53):
But like there was clearly a time where there wasn't a moon and everybody was fine.
So just one day you turned on the moon and you were like, there it is.
Here you go.
Deal with it.
Yeah.
Or maybe the Alcoa less.
Maybe some, maybe like the, the, maybe, oh, all right.
Hear me out.
Maybe we're living in two different timelines.
Okay.
(51:14):
Okay.
So hear me out.
So this is the shit that I could get into different timelines, different dimensions.
We're living in two.
All right.
So simultaneously the moon doesn't exist.
There was a cataclysmic event and we have to project the moon into the sky to make people
still feel like there is a moon while we in the current time are building the new moon
(51:41):
to replace that moon, but it's to go back in time from when the shit happened.
So the moon's there and then it comes and then it blows up or whatever and then we project
the hologram moon until we can rebuild the moon again.
Does any of that make sense?
I don't know, dude.
(52:02):
Only because we can like accurately predict solar eclipses and the tides.
Yeah, but we can do that from the hologram.
How?
Jesus Christ.
Now.
Doesn't matter.
(52:26):
You're cooking with gas.
Jesus, fuck yeah.
You see the rest of the stack?
Yeah.
Everything's like a Matterport build like they're gonna go full talk about what's happening
in the use of who gives this fuck that's it?
Oh yeah.
It was like a whole movie series about it.
Yeah, there was, well, I don't know the series, but there's a-
(52:48):
What was it called? Iron Skies or something like that?
There was a new movie that came out. Yeah, it had a fucking
Samwell Tarly from Game of Thrones and a-
Yeah.
Yeah, I haven't seen it. It looks terrible.
But that's why I want to watch it. It's like, it hits every point.
Yeah, it's a great-
It hits all the points.
(53:09):
You know what's weird is halfway through recording this episode, I had a panic attack thinking that I had already covered this.
Well, when you cover enough crazy shit, you start to worry that you covered all of it.
I was super, I was like, oh fuck, did we do this?
And then I realized, no, it's just me just remembering that I knew all of a lot of this stuff before researching it.
(53:32):
Yeah.
Yeah. So that was a fun little existential crisis I had in the middle of the episode.
We'll just start redoing episodes.
Well, so here's the thing. So for those of you listening, we're coming up on two years and actually the two year anniversary of this show will be our 100th episode.
So my thing was when I first started this show, I had my buddy Colby on it.
(53:55):
I gave him two options to choose from.
And they were the first two episodes we ever did together.
And I kind of want to do it because I still have those scripts and I kind of want to redo both those episodes, not because they were bad.
They're arguably two of my, of our better episodes.
But just to see the two different reactions from the two different people that have been on the show the most, does that make sense?
(54:19):
Yeah, that'd be really fun. Maybe bonus episodes.
Well, I mean, we got to pull this 100th episode. We got to do at least one of them proper.
OK, yeah, just go all the way through.
I think it'd be fun because there are two there are two of the most iconic.
We'll just call it cryptid, whatever the name and then redo R.E.D. U.X.
(54:41):
Like like hot shots with two extra Rs in it to add to add to the legitimacy.
Yeah, it'll be great. All right, Sarge, you got the old plug.
Yeah, I'm on the Internet.
Follow me on different social media platforms except for X, which is actually just Twitter.
(55:02):
But worse, because I don't ever really go on there anymore.
Buy my coloring book at Sarges supernormal dot com.
It will take you to an Amazon page. The coloring book is nine ninety nine.
But there's a lot there's a lot of stuff to do in there.
There's coloring and there's activities.
And it's a great way to, you know, take out your fear and frustration on the incoming shit storm that America is about to face.
(55:28):
Or you can roll it up and burn it to cook food because eventually fuel will become increasingly expensive
because of our horrible corporate overlords. Yeah.
And then we'll have to mine the moon and the moon will become unstable, it'll collapse in on itself.
And then exactly future humans will have to now build the moon and then send it back in time.
(55:52):
Yeah. So I think I think we're on to something here.
Yeah. Sarges supernormal dot com. Do it by the by the coloring book.
I'd appreciate it. Yeah. But that's all I got. Yeah.
Yes. Buy his coloring book.
Follow us on Instagram at Crypto Cocktail.
Follow us on TikTok, Crypto Cocktail Party for however long that's going to last.
(56:13):
Because the government's. We're on blue sky.
We're on blue sky. I don't. Yeah. I got to give Sarge to handle that because I don't post.
I'm bad at text posts. I'm not a text post guy.
I'm Sarge the Destroyer on blue sky. Find me and then and then you'll see me posting Cryptid Cocktail Party stuff as well.
Yeah. And then leave us a rating and review, please. That'd be awesome.
(56:35):
It definitely helps out the show. I think that's it.
I don't know anything else. Yeah. I guess, you know, with that out of the way, Sarge, do you want to say goodbye and I love you to the audience?
Goodbye and I love you.
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