March 3, 2025 • 35 mins
Welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party! This week, we are joined by friend of the show Mike Dionne, better known as Eyenine. On this episode, we cover ANOTHER alien encounter in Soviet era Russia. We are headed to the city of Voronezh to discuss one of the more controversial extraterrestrial encounters in modern time, the Voronezh UFO Encounter!
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Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we
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have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown, I'm your host Dave,
joined as always by our wonderful co-host Sarge, how's it going Sarge?
Ahoy mateys.
And we're also joined by special guests of the show, my buddy Mike Dion, better known
as I9, what's going on man?
Hey, how's it going?
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for being on.
Anytime bud, I feel like it's been a long time coming, I feel like this should have happened
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sooner, but it didn't so, whatever, it is what it is.
But how's it going man, what's going on, what's new with you, how's life?
Good, good, I just was out in St. Louis, did a show, was working on a new album with Far
Out and I got another album coming out this year, so a lot of new music for 2025.
So you have a new album coming up and then you're also recording another album or is
this part of the album in St. Louis?
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Two separate albums.
So I have my-
He was, the other one was a feature, I know the lingo, I'm learning it.
Yeah, well it was like a collaboration, it's called Creatives, it's me, Far Out and Van
Ghost, but my solo album, Fast Radio Burst is coming out this year and it's produced
by DC, the Midi Alien, which is awesome.
Can I just say that Van Ghost is hands down one of the best names I've ever heard in my
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entire life.
Yeah.
That's a really good name.
It's so good.
But God damn man, you've been busy huh?
Fuck.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm glad you're staying busy.
And Sarge, how are you doing?
I'm sure you got some sort of tale to tell.
I'm wonderful.
My oldest child turned 16.
Wow.
That's earth shattering.
So I got reminded once again that I'm an elderly fuck at this point.
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I took it to Salem, Massachusetts, one of the greatest cities in this whole goddamn
state.
So yeah, it was good times.
Can I just say something?
I've never been to Salem, Massachusetts.
Is that wild?
You were fucking missing out.
There are crystals everywhere.
I don't-
All right.
You need to find an amethyst, I got 19 spots.
All right.
I've never been and I feel like I lived in New England my whole life.
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I feel like it's someplace I should have been.
It is very cool.
You would think that it's kind of lame and stuff.
It sounds touristy.
It's the worst place on earth in October because all the fucking amateurs show up and they
put on eyeliner that one time a year and wander around the streets.
But in the winter time, it's actually very cool.
The shops are still open.
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There's a lot of stuff to see and the shops have really cool stuff in them.
And then there's like all kinds of museums and haunted houses that run year round.
It's very, very cool.
And the restaurants are incredible.
The Rockefeller was really good.
The Tavern in the Hawthorne.
I stayed in the Hawthorne Hotel and I ate in the Tavern last night.
It was really good.
So the Ledger is another great restaurant.
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I freaking love it there and it's so much fun, especially if you like hit every bar
that you walk past and have a drink while you're out and about.
It just makes the experience so much fun.
Salem to me always, it always just seemed like it was like Hot Topic, Hampton Beach.
Like it's just like that kind of like vibe.
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And I didn't know if I could.
I feel like Hot Topic wants to be Salem.
Yeah, especially in October.
Fair enough.
Because like Salem is a pretty spooky place.
Yeah, you remember our buddy, Ryan Connery.
He used to live down there and do ghost tours and stuff.
I used to go down there every week and hang out with him and it was one of my favorite
places.
And during COVID, I went down and it was just all construction.
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Nothing was open.
It was like towards the end.
It wasn't like during lockdown.
It was like after that when things started opening up.
But like it was it was crazy.
It was like a like a dead zone.
Like I went down there for the was it the Boston Hot Dog Corporation?
That little hot dog shop.
They weren't open and there's just like all construction everywhere.
And I just ended up going to a couple bars.
But my buddy, Matt Hobbs lives down there and he's going to be starting up an open mic
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at one of the bars.
So I just head down there and start performing.
Did you go to Salem just for the hot dogs or was that like did you drive specifically
for like, you know, I'm craving this hot dog.
I've I've gone to Columbus, Ohio, just for the hot dogs.
But so so yes, not every time.
Usually it was for something else, but I would always I would always be honest with you,
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Mike.
I was on your side until you said you drove all the way to Columbus, Ohio for hot dogs.
Well, I mean, I also had like a show out there, but I.
I got nervous for a second because I've driven into Boston.
There was a place near Berkeley called Junkyard Hot Dogs.
Holy shit.
How did we end up here?
You know, some people like hot dogs.
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I have a hot dog tattoo, so that's fair.
All right.
Are you guys ready to you guys ready to dive into today's episode?
Yeah, especially if it's about hot dogs.
It's not about hot dogs.
It's actually it's not.
No, I'll see you guys next week.
Yeah, this place.
I got a show tonight.
So so all right.
Fuck both of you.
But anyways, today, gentlemen, we're going to be heading to.
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The Soviet Union.
I had that audio, so I had to use it again.
But anyway, so anyway, so we're going to head to the Soviet Union.
The year is 1989.
The Cold War is winding down, but, you know, tensions are still very much high.
Now, deep in the heart of the USSR, about 300 miles south of Moscow is the city of Verona's.
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I think I'm pronouncing that right.
It ends with a ZH and I don't know Russian, so that I'm just going to run with it.
Not like super well known for having weird shit happen there outside of I'm assuming
just normal middle of nowhere Russia shit like bear fighting or whatever it is they
do up there.
Most people go there for the hot dogs.
OK, but in American blue jeans.
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What it was well known for, at least to the Russians and I assume the CIA was its industry.
Aircraft production, engineering and military research.
What that research was, I don't know.
But that's what really put this place on the map, at least up until that point.
That all changed when in September of that year, something happened that defied all logic,
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something that would not only leave its mark on Verona's, but would ripple across the
world kind of.
What happened there wasn't simply just another UFO sighting, but a full fledged alien encounter
complete with extraterrestrials, a robotic companion and a demonstration of power that
absolutely ruined the mental health of one, if not all of the witnesses that were there
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to see it.
So today we're going to be discussing the Verona's UFO encounter.
Oh, oh, I thought you were talking about.
I thought you were going to talk about Steven Seagal's first visit.
God damn it.
No.
That would ruin my mental health.
So just a fat guy doing karate.
Did you say robot companion?
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OK, now I've never heard of this.
OK, so the story goes that on the evening of September 27th, 1989, a group of children
were hanging out in a local park that I refused to learn how to pronounce.
And they were playing like just all the best games that Soviet era Russia has to offer.
So it's a hoop and a stick.
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Even from beer.
Now you got the classic children's game called Children's Court, where one child is the judge,
one is the accused and the rest are the jury.
And the accused has to prove they didn't steal the last of the food rations.
But spoiler alert, they're always found guilty.
There's also the other classic Soviet era childhood game called Reds versus Whites.
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It's like a classic cops and robbers style game where half the children are the Bolsheviks
and the other half are.
Purge from society.
How old are these kids?
I don't know.
I made both those games up.
They don't exist.
I think they were playing soccer.
It sounds it sounds.
The problem is Russia is such a horrible place that it sounds accurate.
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Wait, you made those up for real?
Yeah, those are games.
You totally sold me on the Children's Court.
I believe it too.
I was like, wait, is this a real thing?
It seems like it could be Russia during the Soviet era was, I'm going to say, nightmarish
to say the least.
I don't think it was great.
When you said Children's Court, it reminded me of like that Rugrats episode when they
have a courtroom.
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And I was like, oh yeah, that's that's a thing.
I never sympathize with the Russians more than the time I had to wait in line to buy
toilet paper during covid.
That's the closest you'll ever get.
I was like, oh, this is what Soviet Russia is like.
Yeah.
Now.
But otherwise, yes, I think I think they legitimately were like playing soccer or something.
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They were kicking some sort of ball around or a can.
I don't know.
Either way, as they were playing, something caught their eye up in the sky.
They noticed what witnesses described as a glowing pink light hovering just above them.
But then it kind of shifted.
The pink glow deepened into a pulsating dark red sphere about 10 feet in diameter.
Now the children, they just stood there frozen as this glowing sphere began to descend slowly
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down into the park.
They noticed that the air changed around them like it is like a like a pressure filled the
air like the atmosphere itself had thickened.
Now some of the kids, they clutched their arms as a sudden chill ran through them, despite
it being a relatively warm evening.
They also noticed that it got eerily silent as the craft approached, like the birds chirping,
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leaves rustling, distant conversations, the traffic, all of that seemed kind of just like
fade away.
Now a few kids, they instinctively took like a step back as if their bodies were reacting
before their tiny minds could even really process like what they were seeing.
But no one ran.
They just like stood rooted in place watching as this craft slowly and deliberately descended
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down into the park.
Yeah.
Polonium poisoning has that effect on people.
They also accidentally fall out of windows periodically in Russia.
It's a weird phenomenon.
It happens.
Now, suddenly without a sound, this fear that they were watching slowly descend.
It just disappeared.
Like it blinked out of existence.
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It was then that the kids were like, fuck this shit.
I'm way too hungry and way too impoverished for this.
I have so much stuff going on.
Like I do not need this in my life.
Yeah.
I got to fall out a window later.
It is time for afternoon vodka.
Yeah.
Like, so they're, they're ready to get the fuck out of there.
And suddenly out of nowhere, the craft just reappeared this time, even closer to the ground,
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eventually landing in the park and not just in front of the kids.
Like there's a group of witnesses at this point.
It's like, like adults, I assume not the parents of these children, but like adults nonetheless
have gathered now like to see this thing descend.
That's where it goes from.
All right.
That's weird to come on, man.
I got enough existential dread living in Soviet Russia.
I don't need this.
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As the witnesses stared to craft a hatch opened up out, stepped, what could only be described
as a full on nightmare.
The entity was at least nine feet tall and it didn't look human, but weirdly enough,
it didn't look entirely like extraterrestrial either.
The creature was dressed in a metallic silvery suit with thick bronze colored boots.
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Like turns out it was just a Harlem globe, globe trotters on a peace mission.
It's like it's the way they described it is like quintessential, like Cold War era sci fi.
You know what I mean?
Like it's like if you ever seen like old pulp magazine covers, it's like that kind of alien.
Like it's not like so it's kind of weird.
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You know, there was like this one, like eight year old who just pulls out a pack of weird
unfiltered cigarettes with Cyrillic writing on it.
And he's like packing it and he's saying, he's like, I'm going to be late to the mines
today.
But the, but that's not like the weirdest part of the creature's true defining feature
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was that it had not one, not two, but three eyes.
It had one normal sized eye on each side of his face, like we normally would.
And then a smaller glowing red eye like smack dab in the middle of its forehead.
Now witnesses said that this third eye, if you were unlucky enough to look into it, it
would cause temporary paralysis to anyone who met his gaze.
And that will come back later.
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Now then to make things worse, a second third-eyed monster came out behind the first one.
And as one source put it, and this was really funny to me, it said, quote, it was clear
they were working together.
End quote.
That is such a KGB thing.
I mean, yeah, they came out of the same craft.
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Why would they not be?
It was clear they were working together.
Moose and squirrel.
It was like, what are the, it was just the funniest line to put into any of the, like,
why would you even say obviously?
No shit, dude.
Unless the other one's like trying to sabotage the mission.
How many three-eyed people do you have in your neighborhood?
How close is this place to Chernobyl?
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Just out of curiosity.
It's not that close.
Okay.
All right.
But, uh, just making sure.
But to add a little fun into the mix, trailing behind these massive entities was a mechanical
being of sorts, much smaller and with a heavier clunkier build.
So Ron DeSantis had also arrived.
It moved in an unnatural kind of like, like a wind up robot toy, but just barely holding
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itself together.
In my mind, the way it was described is it's clap trap from borderlands.
Like that's the only way that I could, the movie or like a, yeah.
Or like what was the gong droids from star wars?
Oh yeah.
It's kind of like, yeah, it's like that vibe.
Now at first the beings didn't even like acknowledge that there was a crowd of people just standing
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there and staring at them.
Instead, they just started taking like a leisurely stroll around the park.
They were like examining the surroundings, moving in a slow but deliberate manner.
The robot followed closely behind them, stopping every once in a while as it was like scanning
the environment, just kind of trying to get a feel for where they were.
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But once the creatures seemed, I guess, satisfied with their findings, they decided, all right,
let's ruin some lives.
So the creatures now very much aware of their audience and the growing unease in the air,
they shifted their posture, their glowing eyes locked into the crowd with a terrifying
and calculated intensity.
Safe to say the mood has now shifted.
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So I mean, Dave, when you think about it, this is an incredibly smart move on the aliens
part because no one in 1989 believed anything that came out of Soviet Russia.
So they literally could have done whatever they wanted because no matter what the government
said, we'd be like, nah, this bullshit.
You're full of it.
That's fair.
All right.
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So before we find out exactly how the mood shifted, I want to get a feel of the room.
Mike, how you feeling so far?
You got three odd aliens.
They are clearly working together, obviously.
Clearly.
Yeah.
And they got a little robot guy.
I'm I'm hooked.
I like how the mood shifted when they looked.
It just reminds me like when I'm halfway through a show and I just like stare at one person
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in the crowd.
I'm like you.
I'm going to ruin your night.
I'm going to make you uncomfortable for this entire song.
Exactly.
True.
But it makes it more memorable for everyone else.
So that's, you know, yeah.
Sarge, how you feeling?
I love that these clearly very advanced aliens thought it would be a super good idea to bring
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a politician from Florida along with them as he hobbles around in his lifts trying to
look like a person.
Well, nice.
All right.
So we got your your mics into it.
Sarge, you're confused about the fucking all about this, man.
I want to know more.
I wish I wish to God I could have been there to watch.
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Yeah, I know.
It's always in places that like we would never be where.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But so one of the boys, a 16 year old named Vasaya Serin, I think that's how you pronounce
it.
I don't really care.
But anyways, he screams but then was frozen in place when the head alien turned its gaze
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toward him, its central eye glowing intensely.
That's when the paralysis set in.
Then the creature pulled out a 20 inch tubular device that witnesses said resembled a gun,
pointed it at another boy while staring still at this kid.
And in an instant, the kid he was pointing this thing at vanished.
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Fucking poof gone.
Just just blinked out of existence.
OK.
The crowd lost it.
So people were screaming, some ran, others were too stunned to move.
But the beings they remained just unfazed.
They just stood there simply like observing the chaos all while that robot is just in
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the background just like scanning shit like hanging out, chilling.
But I what did the kid do?
I don't know.
That he was just vaporized.
Why not?
This does sound like you are describing one of my shows, which is crazy.
It's just people are screaming, just staring still, just vanishing people.
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Stare to people vaporizing children for no reason.
Yeah.
Fuck that kid in particular.
It's not even an all ages show.
There's just a kid there.
A little Russian kid with a pack of cigarettes that no one would believe.
I think it was just like they just want like it was just like the fact that it was still
staring at the one guy, the one kid who screamed while he did this is such a like a baller
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move.
Yeah, for sure.
But then just as suddenly as he disappeared, the boy reappeared like totally unharmed,
but visibly shaken.
Obviously, he naturally he didn't exist for a moment, which is kind of fucked up.
I don't know how you feel after that.
Yeah.
Now, the beings hung around for a little while longer, scanning the park with their glowing
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eyes as of searching for something unseen.
Now the robot is still there.
He's just smelling flowers and looking at trees or some shit.
Then one of the humanoids tilted its head slightly as if communicating to the other
that hey, we should probably like dip before the cops come.
Yeah.
With that, they turned and walked back into their craft, the hatch sealed behind them
without making a sound.
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The red sphere lifted into the sky and instantly vanished.
Now, before we go any further, I'm going to ask again, how we feeling about these aliens
now?
I so you said they were kind of humanoid, but not really.
Like, so they had like arms and legs and like a head and a torso.
Yeah, two, two arms, two legs.
So they were just nine feet tall, had three eyes and like a weird and like a metallic
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suit.
Yeah.
Now there's like varying reports about the size of their head.
So I didn't leave that in there.
One of them, one source said it had really like a big bulbous head.
The other one said they had tiny heads, kind of like the Koopa Troopers from the Super
Mario live action movie.
The best movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's how they kind of described it.
And I didn't know which one to go with.
I just left that out entirely.
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Well, you know, a lot of men have a really difficult time describing size accurately.
That's true.
That's valid.
Valid points.
I like this.
Even the descriptions.
It's it's really bulbous.
It's really it's really big.
I don't know.
No, it's pretty pretty small, actually.
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Yeah.
You said it was a warm night, not a cold night.
I was in the pool.
Yeah.
It was warm, so it appears bigger than it actually is.
Yeah.
So it's a grower, not a shower.
Exactly.
Now, this entire encounter lasts less than 10 minutes.
So but for a lot of people, and I'm assuming the kid who did exist for a moment, it probably
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lasted a little bit longer.
I'm sorry.
Did you you said a moment did the little boy who disappeared come back?
Were you not paying attention?
Well, no, there was a lot to keep track of.
Yeah.
So did he reappear in the same spot that he disappeared?
Yeah.
Do you need to go back?
No, no, no, I go back.
There was a lot to keep track of.
We've got two three eyed aliens.
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Hey, calm the fuck down.
Take that again.
We've got two three eyed aliens, Ron DeSantis, a pink ship, a little boy smoking cigarettes.
I don't know where I am.
You added the last two things in there.
You know it was there.
I know he was doing it.
Yeah, no, he so he he disappeared and then the boy reappeared.
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He was he was unharmed, but visibly shaken, obviously.
Because now that entire encounter lasted less than 10 minutes, which is crazy because it
sounds like they were taking a lot of time to do whatever it is they were trying to do.
Now the day following the event, the story hit the Soviet press like a fucking bombshell.
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The official Soviet state run news agency, the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union,
or TASS for short, ran an article covering the event, not debunking it, but reporting
it as fact, which at the time was crazy historic.
Like that never happens.
Now in the article, TASS quoted Soviet scientists who admitted that there was something strange
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about the physical evidence left behind in the park.
Dr. Genrikh Silinov, head of the Voronezh Geophysical Laboratory, stated that scientists
had found quote, a depression in the ground where the sphere had landed and that they
had recovered two small pieces of unidentified rock from the site.
Silinov claimed that quote, these rocks were not naturally occurring, end quote, and speculated
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that they could have originated from the craft.
They also claimed to have found some metallic fragments at the site, but they quote unquote
vanished before they could be analyzed properly.
Sounds like the aliens just dropped a couple of meth rocks and then took off.
Yeah, yeah, they vanished into the kids' pockets.
Now, the fact that a major Soviet news agency would even entertain the notion of a UFO landing
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was pretty much unheard of at this time, in a sense shockwaves through the international
community.
Western media, including Time Magazine and the New York Times, picked up the story and
they really emphasize the sensational nature of the claims.
And the Voronezh case became like a global debate, not just in media, but UFO researchers
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and skeptics.
They were all arguing, UFO researchers hailed it as quote, the most credible extraterrestrial
encounter in decades, while skeptics, by nature obviously, they weren't convinced.
Skeptics fucking ruin everything.
Just for a second, enjoy it.
Why did they say it was credible?
I don't know, because Tass said it was.
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I mean, if state-run media publishes the story, that's pretty wild.
Okay.
It's kind of surprising.
Whenever you say Tass, I just think of like speed runs in video games.
Well, we'll get to why it kind of seems like a little, it's a little bit more truer than
it's not, kind of, I guess.
I don't know.
But anyways, some skeptics proposed that the whole thing was some sort of Soviet era psychological
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experiment.
For years, they said it was a case of mass hysteria fueled by Cold War tensions and Soviet
propaganda.
And then of course, you got other people saying that the craft and the, like the beings were
part of a military experiment, possibly a classified Soviet project designed to test
public reaction to UAPs.
Kind of like a Project Blue Beam, like they were trying to say was the drones in New Jersey
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was part of Project Blue.
Like kind of like-
Yeah.
Yeah.
Swamp gas.
And the public at large would handle like a UFO invasion.
But what's wild is that even the US government took notice.
So and this is true because if you Google the Verona's UFO incident, there are links
to the CIA's official.gov website with like scanned like shit, like that mentioned this
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case.
Now, the US didn't like make like an official statement on the case publicly, but some intelligence
analysts think the incident was either an elaborate hoax, some sort of like propaganda
thing or maybe just a misinterpretation of some sort of like experimental craft.
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But despite the skepticism, the Verona's UFO incident remains one of the most well-documented
and debated extraterrestrial encounters in modern history.
Now whether or not it's real, you know, it definitely left like an undeniable impact
and not just for those who saw it, especially that one kid that just full on didn't exist
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for a minute.
But it left like a, I was going to say a stain on the world, but it's not a stain.
It left an impact on the world as a whole.
But there you have it.
That is the case of the Verona's UFO encounter.
And that's all I have for you.
I want to know what happened to the kid who vanished.
Yeah.
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Did they interview him ever?
Oh, that I don't know.
I mean, if they did, it wasn't in the Russia propaganda that they put out afterwards.
Where did he go?
Well, that's what I'm thinking.
Like it, clearly it was a threat.
Like if you keep fucking around, you're going to wind up here.
But where could you possibly send a kid that's worse than 1989 Soviet Russia?
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New Jersey?
Florida?
The Bible Belt?
It is true.
Like that's like, I couldn't even imagine like the psychological impact that would have
a view just existing and then not existing.
It just reminds me of like a blackout though, kind of.
I guess, but you never dematerialize because there's people around you when you're blackout
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that can tell you the stories of things you did when you're blackout that you don't want
to hear.
But they could be lying.
As far as I'm concerned, Saturday night, I stop existing.
He had to be conscious when he disappeared.
Right.
So he's like conscious in the shadow realm and then blinks back into existence.
So they had to send him somewhere.
We don't know that.
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We don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe it's like how was it nightcrawler?
Like whenever he like does that fucking like teleportation thing, doesn't he like go to
hell and then come back out?
That's possible.
So maybe it's kind of like maybe he just went to fucking alien hell.
I don't know.
It's all a nightmare.
He could have gone on the ship.
Maybe.
I have no idea.
But anyway, so Mike, how are you feeling?
What are your thoughts, questions, concerns?
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Yeah, I'm concerned with this whole story.
For one, I've never heard of this, which is crazy that it's like you said that I get left
a huge impact because I've heard of a lot of alien encounters and never heard of this.
And yeah, no, please.
And secondly, I think do you think a lot of it was because especially our government involvement
and like reporting on it, do you think it has to do with like Sputnik and all the like
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the space race that we had, like however many years ago before that?
This is no, I know.
But like it was still it was still before the crumbling of the Soviet Union.
So like they were still a rival to our space program, even though even though we beat them.
True.
I think but I think like in 1989, like at that point, like I don't even think space
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was even our fucking we didn't care about that.
Yeah.
Russia was kind of falling apart by this point.
Yeah.
Like it is a weird piece of if it's propaganda from the Russians, it's it's a weird thing
to do.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like in 1989, like that was like 60s shit.
Like why why all of a sudden?
Because like Russia has a very long history of just like suppressing any sort of like
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extraterrestrial encounters or anything like that.
So for this to like be like in the actual state run media is fucking crazy.
The crazy thing is these kids like I don't know, you didn't say how old they were, but
if it was 89, like they're relatively our age.
So these kids might still be alive.
Yeah.
I want to talk to them.
Yeah.
They said they ranged from ages of nine to 60.
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OK, OK.
I believe I read that group of kids.
So I mean, maybe it was just a fucking maybe they hallucinated it from the industrial waste
that was being pumped out into the town because they were known for that.
But I have no idea.
I just want to know where in New Jersey that little boy wound up.
Some Fuddruckers.
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Just the lobby of a Fuddruckers and they won't let him in because he hasn't had parents with
him.
Well, the staff lazily sings Happy Birthday to an ungrateful child.
Yeah.
I don't know if they ever interviewed the boy.
If they did, it's not in any sort of thing.
But like maybe it could be like the Philadelphia experiment.
Like maybe he wasn't like disintegrate.
He became part of a battleship and then blinked back.
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No.
Like maybe like maybe like the USS Philadelphia, like that popped up in fucking another time
or like another city for something like a brief moment.
They came back.
Maybe he was just teleported somewhere and they came back.
Like maybe he didn't not exist because that'd be insane.
He like blinked into like his worst nightmare.
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So he's just like standing naked in front of his classroom and then blinks back and
the classrooms in New Jersey for some reason.
Why am I in Bayonne?
There you have it guys.
That's the story.
It was fun.
It was cool.
I, you know, I panicked for a minute trying to find an episode and I thought this was
a I had never heard of this before I started researching it.
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So it was cool to learn.
OK, so you haven't either.
That's no, this is all new to me.
That's comforting.
All right.
I can't honestly.
I'm not that I'm like trying to make it sound like I do tons and tons of research, but I
know a lot of crazy alien stories.
I can't believe that I've never heard this before.
Same.
Yes.
I'll send you guys some links.
I'll you know, I'll give you some sources that I use and we'll you know, you guys can
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fucking know.
I believe you ever like crazy.
Do you ever like post links at the bottom of the like the podcast thing?
No, because I'm lazy as fuck and I don't do that.
Nice.
Nice.
Well, if you guys need someone to do that for you, I'm good at that.
Awesome.
All right.
With that out of the way, Mike, I nine.
Do you have anything you want to plug before we sign off?
Usually I give Sarge the floor for this, but you're the guy.
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So you can follow me on everything.
If it's EYE and I.
Any just recently, I think like two weeks ago, I got zucked really hard.
They deleted my Instagram.
Yeah.
What happened with that?
Like you don't post anything offensive or anything like that.
Like I don't understand.
No, I don't.
I think it might have to do with the fact that they just like transitioned everything
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into AI for their content moderation.
And I just got a message randomly and they're like, hey, you got flagged for community standards.
I was like, OK, like I literally had just posted a story and it wasn't an offensive
story and I clicked on it and they're like, we need your ID, which is weird because I
didn't think I linked it to my personal account, which I didn't.
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And so I sent my ID and then they had me do like a face scan.
So I do like this 3D up and down left and right face scan.
And then they like it was under review and then they sent me a message.
They're like, yep, you didn't pass.
You were flagged for community standards.
They never said what it was.
And they're like, and all of your shit's deleted forever.
So fuck off.
That's crazy.
They said I can't appeal it.
They said I can't do anything about it.
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But there's a comedian, Ben Palmer, and he happened to him.
Yeah, it just happened to him.
So and he, I guess, sued in small claims court and he got his account back.
And now he has this whole thing set up for other people to do it.
So I just emailed him like my information and hopefully I'm going to sue and get, I
mean, I don't need the money, but like I take them for everything it's worth.
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Yeah.
Well, it can only be up to like nine grand, I think.
But you had like a fairly decent following on there too.
I had thousands of followers, 15 years of memories.
I had like pictures of friends that are no longer around and like family members and
stuff.
And like I, there was around on the old phones that I would upload.
I didn't think that it could ever get deleted.
That's wildly fucked up.
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Yeah.
So everyone back up your Instagram, I guess.
But my new Instagram is at I nine music, E Y E N I N E music.
I'm on Spotify, iTunes.
I got a new album coming out.
I got a YouTube channel.
If you just Google I nine E Y E N I N E, everything comes up.
Oh, and I have a I nine music.com.
Wait, how do you spell it?
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Oh, it's a D E T E R I O R A T I N G.
All right.
Sorry.
That's an inside joke.
Sorry, do you got anything you want to you want to plug before?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, still you can still buy the coloring book.
Probably everyone who listens to this has already done it if they wanted to.
But do it anyway.
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Sages supernormal dot com.
It's a coloring book where you can take out all of your extra central dread and do some
word puzzles as well.
That's that's in there.
It's nine ninety nine.
Sages supernormal.com.
It really just take you to the Amazon page, but it's easier to remember this.
And then, yeah, you can find me on the Internet at Saj the destroyer.
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Just Google it.
You know, I'm pretty much the only one who comes up.
Yeah.
You said it was such authority.
I love it.
Yeah.
If you want to follow us on Instagram or follow us anywhere else, it's at Crypto Cocktail
on Instagram.
Chris, the Costco party on Tick Tock.
We were in the latest issue of Scars magazine.
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Well, yeah, pretty cool.
So definitely get a copy of that.
We're also going to be featured in the upcoming upcoming issue of Para House magazine, which
is pretty cool.
So definitely check them out.
Drink Narragansett.
You better drink Narragansett.
I think legally we have to say that even though we didn't sign anything saying we had to.
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But you know, you know what?
It doesn't matter if it's legal or not.
Yeah, it's the principle.
Yeah.
Especially since Yingling went all Nazi on us.
Narragansett still true blue.
That's fair.
Oh, by the way, crazy that you picked something about the Soviet Union when this whole Zelensky
thing just happened.
I know.
Holy shit.
Dude, that was.
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You know, honestly, though, at this at this stage, I mean, it's kind of impossible not
to find something dystopian and then it have a connection to the super fat orange guy or
his eyeliner wearing lapdog.
Yeah.
But also the the four thousand dollars I got from the Soviet government to do this episode
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didn't hurt either.
So.
Oh, nice.
Well, I'll send you my PayPal.
You wait.
You got four thousand.
Don't worry about it.
All I got was two potatoes.
Oh, damn it, Putin, you fuck.
And with that out of the way, I guess, Mike, would you say like say goodbye and I love
you to the audience?
Yeah.
Goodbye.
I love you and see you in the next episode.
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Listen, I nine.
Yeah.
And listen to me.
I'm going to go on my new Instagram so I can get some followers back.
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we
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have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown, I'm your host Dave,
joined as always by our wonderful co-host Sarge, how's it going Sarge?
Ahoy mateys.
And we're also joined by special guests of the show, my buddy Mike Dion, better known
as I9, what's going on man?
Hey, how's it going?
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for being on.
Anytime bud, I feel like it's been a long time coming, I feel like this should have happened
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sooner, but it didn't so, whatever, it is what it is.
But how's it going man, what's going on, what's new with you, how's life?
Good, good, I just was out in St. Louis, did a show, was working on a new album with Far
Out and I got another album coming out this year, so a lot of new music for 2025.
So you have a new album coming up and then you're also recording another album or is
this part of the album in St. Louis?
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Two separate albums.
So I have my-
He was, the other one was a feature, I know the lingo, I'm learning it.
Yeah, well it was like a collaboration, it's called Creatives, it's me, Far Out and Van
Ghost, but my solo album, Fast Radio Burst is coming out this year and it's produced
by DC, the Midi Alien, which is awesome.
Can I just say that Van Ghost is hands down one of the best names I've ever heard in my
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entire life.
Yeah.
That's a really good name.
It's so good.
But God damn man, you've been busy huh?
Fuck.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm glad you're staying busy.
And Sarge, how are you doing?
I'm sure you got some sort of tale to tell.
I'm wonderful.
My oldest child turned 16.
Wow.
That's earth shattering.
So I got reminded once again that I'm an elderly fuck at this point.
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I took it to Salem, Massachusetts, one of the greatest cities in this whole goddamn
state.
So yeah, it was good times.
Can I just say something?
I've never been to Salem, Massachusetts.
Is that wild?
You were fucking missing out.
There are crystals everywhere.
I don't-
All right.
You need to find an amethyst, I got 19 spots.
All right.
I've never been and I feel like I lived in New England my whole life.
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I feel like it's someplace I should have been.
It is very cool.
You would think that it's kind of lame and stuff.
It sounds touristy.
It's the worst place on earth in October because all the fucking amateurs show up and they
put on eyeliner that one time a year and wander around the streets.
But in the winter time, it's actually very cool.
The shops are still open.
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There's a lot of stuff to see and the shops have really cool stuff in them.
And then there's like all kinds of museums and haunted houses that run year round.
It's very, very cool.
And the restaurants are incredible.
The Rockefeller was really good.
The Tavern in the Hawthorne.
I stayed in the Hawthorne Hotel and I ate in the Tavern last night.
It was really good.
So the Ledger is another great restaurant.
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I freaking love it there and it's so much fun, especially if you like hit every bar
that you walk past and have a drink while you're out and about.
It just makes the experience so much fun.
Salem to me always, it always just seemed like it was like Hot Topic, Hampton Beach.
Like it's just like that kind of like vibe.
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And I didn't know if I could.
I feel like Hot Topic wants to be Salem.
Yeah, especially in October.
Fair enough.
Because like Salem is a pretty spooky place.
Yeah, you remember our buddy, Ryan Connery.
He used to live down there and do ghost tours and stuff.
I used to go down there every week and hang out with him and it was one of my favorite
places.
And during COVID, I went down and it was just all construction.
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Nothing was open.
It was like towards the end.
It wasn't like during lockdown.
It was like after that when things started opening up.
But like it was it was crazy.
It was like a like a dead zone.
Like I went down there for the was it the Boston Hot Dog Corporation?
That little hot dog shop.
They weren't open and there's just like all construction everywhere.
And I just ended up going to a couple bars.
But my buddy, Matt Hobbs lives down there and he's going to be starting up an open mic
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at one of the bars.
So I just head down there and start performing.
Did you go to Salem just for the hot dogs or was that like did you drive specifically
for like, you know, I'm craving this hot dog.
I've I've gone to Columbus, Ohio, just for the hot dogs.
But so so yes, not every time.
Usually it was for something else, but I would always I would always be honest with you,
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Mike.
I was on your side until you said you drove all the way to Columbus, Ohio for hot dogs.
Well, I mean, I also had like a show out there, but I.
I got nervous for a second because I've driven into Boston.
There was a place near Berkeley called Junkyard Hot Dogs.
Holy shit.
How did we end up here?
You know, some people like hot dogs.
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I have a hot dog tattoo, so that's fair.
All right.
Are you guys ready to you guys ready to dive into today's episode?
Yeah, especially if it's about hot dogs.
It's not about hot dogs.
It's actually it's not.
No, I'll see you guys next week.
Yeah, this place.
I got a show tonight.
So so all right.
Fuck both of you.
But anyways, today, gentlemen, we're going to be heading to.
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The Soviet Union.
I had that audio, so I had to use it again.
But anyway, so anyway, so we're going to head to the Soviet Union.
The year is 1989.
The Cold War is winding down, but, you know, tensions are still very much high.
Now, deep in the heart of the USSR, about 300 miles south of Moscow is the city of Verona's.
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I think I'm pronouncing that right.
It ends with a ZH and I don't know Russian, so that I'm just going to run with it.
Not like super well known for having weird shit happen there outside of I'm assuming
just normal middle of nowhere Russia shit like bear fighting or whatever it is they
do up there.
Most people go there for the hot dogs.
OK, but in American blue jeans.
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What it was well known for, at least to the Russians and I assume the CIA was its industry.
Aircraft production, engineering and military research.
What that research was, I don't know.
But that's what really put this place on the map, at least up until that point.
That all changed when in September of that year, something happened that defied all logic,
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something that would not only leave its mark on Verona's, but would ripple across the
world kind of.
What happened there wasn't simply just another UFO sighting, but a full fledged alien encounter
complete with extraterrestrials, a robotic companion and a demonstration of power that
absolutely ruined the mental health of one, if not all of the witnesses that were there
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to see it.
So today we're going to be discussing the Verona's UFO encounter.
Oh, oh, I thought you were talking about.
I thought you were going to talk about Steven Seagal's first visit.
God damn it.
No.
That would ruin my mental health.
So just a fat guy doing karate.
Did you say robot companion?
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OK, now I've never heard of this.
OK, so the story goes that on the evening of September 27th, 1989, a group of children
were hanging out in a local park that I refused to learn how to pronounce.
And they were playing like just all the best games that Soviet era Russia has to offer.
So it's a hoop and a stick.
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Even from beer.
Now you got the classic children's game called Children's Court, where one child is the judge,
one is the accused and the rest are the jury.
And the accused has to prove they didn't steal the last of the food rations.
But spoiler alert, they're always found guilty.
There's also the other classic Soviet era childhood game called Reds versus Whites.
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It's like a classic cops and robbers style game where half the children are the Bolsheviks
and the other half are.
Purge from society.
How old are these kids?
I don't know.
I made both those games up.
They don't exist.
I think they were playing soccer.
It sounds it sounds.
The problem is Russia is such a horrible place that it sounds accurate.
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Wait, you made those up for real?
Yeah, those are games.
You totally sold me on the Children's Court.
I believe it too.
I was like, wait, is this a real thing?
It seems like it could be Russia during the Soviet era was, I'm going to say, nightmarish
to say the least.
I don't think it was great.
When you said Children's Court, it reminded me of like that Rugrats episode when they
have a courtroom.
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And I was like, oh yeah, that's that's a thing.
I never sympathize with the Russians more than the time I had to wait in line to buy
toilet paper during covid.
That's the closest you'll ever get.
I was like, oh, this is what Soviet Russia is like.
Yeah.
Now.
But otherwise, yes, I think I think they legitimately were like playing soccer or something.
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They were kicking some sort of ball around or a can.
I don't know.
Either way, as they were playing, something caught their eye up in the sky.
They noticed what witnesses described as a glowing pink light hovering just above them.
But then it kind of shifted.
The pink glow deepened into a pulsating dark red sphere about 10 feet in diameter.
Now the children, they just stood there frozen as this glowing sphere began to descend slowly
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down into the park.
They noticed that the air changed around them like it is like a like a pressure filled the
air like the atmosphere itself had thickened.
Now some of the kids, they clutched their arms as a sudden chill ran through them, despite
it being a relatively warm evening.
They also noticed that it got eerily silent as the craft approached, like the birds chirping,
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leaves rustling, distant conversations, the traffic, all of that seemed kind of just like
fade away.
Now a few kids, they instinctively took like a step back as if their bodies were reacting
before their tiny minds could even really process like what they were seeing.
But no one ran.
They just like stood rooted in place watching as this craft slowly and deliberately descended
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down into the park.
Yeah.
Polonium poisoning has that effect on people.
They also accidentally fall out of windows periodically in Russia.
It's a weird phenomenon.
It happens.
Now, suddenly without a sound, this fear that they were watching slowly descend.
It just disappeared.
Like it blinked out of existence.
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It was then that the kids were like, fuck this shit.
I'm way too hungry and way too impoverished for this.
I have so much stuff going on.
Like I do not need this in my life.
Yeah.
I got to fall out a window later.
It is time for afternoon vodka.
Yeah.
Like, so they're, they're ready to get the fuck out of there.
And suddenly out of nowhere, the craft just reappeared this time, even closer to the ground,
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eventually landing in the park and not just in front of the kids.
Like there's a group of witnesses at this point.
It's like, like adults, I assume not the parents of these children, but like adults nonetheless
have gathered now like to see this thing descend.
That's where it goes from.
All right.
That's weird to come on, man.
I got enough existential dread living in Soviet Russia.
I don't need this.
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As the witnesses stared to craft a hatch opened up out, stepped, what could only be described
as a full on nightmare.
The entity was at least nine feet tall and it didn't look human, but weirdly enough,
it didn't look entirely like extraterrestrial either.
The creature was dressed in a metallic silvery suit with thick bronze colored boots.
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Like turns out it was just a Harlem globe, globe trotters on a peace mission.
It's like it's the way they described it is like quintessential, like Cold War era sci fi.
You know what I mean?
Like it's like if you ever seen like old pulp magazine covers, it's like that kind of alien.
Like it's not like so it's kind of weird.
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You know, there was like this one, like eight year old who just pulls out a pack of weird
unfiltered cigarettes with Cyrillic writing on it.
And he's like packing it and he's saying, he's like, I'm going to be late to the mines
today.
But the, but that's not like the weirdest part of the creature's true defining feature
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was that it had not one, not two, but three eyes.
It had one normal sized eye on each side of his face, like we normally would.
And then a smaller glowing red eye like smack dab in the middle of its forehead.
Now witnesses said that this third eye, if you were unlucky enough to look into it, it
would cause temporary paralysis to anyone who met his gaze.
And that will come back later.
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Now then to make things worse, a second third-eyed monster came out behind the first one.
And as one source put it, and this was really funny to me, it said, quote, it was clear
they were working together.
End quote.
That is such a KGB thing.
I mean, yeah, they came out of the same craft.
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Why would they not be?
It was clear they were working together.
Moose and squirrel.
It was like, what are the, it was just the funniest line to put into any of the, like,
why would you even say obviously?
No shit, dude.
Unless the other one's like trying to sabotage the mission.
How many three-eyed people do you have in your neighborhood?
How close is this place to Chernobyl?
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Just out of curiosity.
It's not that close.
Okay.
All right.
But, uh, just making sure.
But to add a little fun into the mix, trailing behind these massive entities was a mechanical
being of sorts, much smaller and with a heavier clunkier build.
So Ron DeSantis had also arrived.
It moved in an unnatural kind of like, like a wind up robot toy, but just barely holding
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itself together.
In my mind, the way it was described is it's clap trap from borderlands.
Like that's the only way that I could, the movie or like a, yeah.
Or like what was the gong droids from star wars?
Oh yeah.
It's kind of like, yeah, it's like that vibe.
Now at first the beings didn't even like acknowledge that there was a crowd of people just standing
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there and staring at them.
Instead, they just started taking like a leisurely stroll around the park.
They were like examining the surroundings, moving in a slow but deliberate manner.
The robot followed closely behind them, stopping every once in a while as it was like scanning
the environment, just kind of trying to get a feel for where they were.
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But once the creatures seemed, I guess, satisfied with their findings, they decided, all right,
let's ruin some lives.
So the creatures now very much aware of their audience and the growing unease in the air,
they shifted their posture, their glowing eyes locked into the crowd with a terrifying
and calculated intensity.
Safe to say the mood has now shifted.
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So I mean, Dave, when you think about it, this is an incredibly smart move on the aliens
part because no one in 1989 believed anything that came out of Soviet Russia.
So they literally could have done whatever they wanted because no matter what the government
said, we'd be like, nah, this bullshit.
You're full of it.
That's fair.
All right.
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So before we find out exactly how the mood shifted, I want to get a feel of the room.
Mike, how you feeling so far?
You got three odd aliens.
They are clearly working together, obviously.
Clearly.
Yeah.
And they got a little robot guy.
I'm I'm hooked.
I like how the mood shifted when they looked.
It just reminds me like when I'm halfway through a show and I just like stare at one person
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in the crowd.
I'm like you.
I'm going to ruin your night.
I'm going to make you uncomfortable for this entire song.
Exactly.
True.
But it makes it more memorable for everyone else.
So that's, you know, yeah.
Sarge, how you feeling?
I love that these clearly very advanced aliens thought it would be a super good idea to bring
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a politician from Florida along with them as he hobbles around in his lifts trying to
look like a person.
Well, nice.
All right.
So we got your your mics into it.
Sarge, you're confused about the fucking all about this, man.
I want to know more.
I wish I wish to God I could have been there to watch.
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Yeah, I know.
It's always in places that like we would never be where.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But so one of the boys, a 16 year old named Vasaya Serin, I think that's how you pronounce
it.
I don't really care.
But anyways, he screams but then was frozen in place when the head alien turned its gaze
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toward him, its central eye glowing intensely.
That's when the paralysis set in.
Then the creature pulled out a 20 inch tubular device that witnesses said resembled a gun,
pointed it at another boy while staring still at this kid.
And in an instant, the kid he was pointing this thing at vanished.
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Fucking poof gone.
Just just blinked out of existence.
OK.
The crowd lost it.
So people were screaming, some ran, others were too stunned to move.
But the beings they remained just unfazed.
They just stood there simply like observing the chaos all while that robot is just in
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the background just like scanning shit like hanging out, chilling.
But I what did the kid do?
I don't know.
That he was just vaporized.
Why not?
This does sound like you are describing one of my shows, which is crazy.
It's just people are screaming, just staring still, just vanishing people.
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Stare to people vaporizing children for no reason.
Yeah.
Fuck that kid in particular.
It's not even an all ages show.
There's just a kid there.
A little Russian kid with a pack of cigarettes that no one would believe.
I think it was just like they just want like it was just like the fact that it was still
staring at the one guy, the one kid who screamed while he did this is such a like a baller
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move.
Yeah, for sure.
But then just as suddenly as he disappeared, the boy reappeared like totally unharmed,
but visibly shaken.
Obviously, he naturally he didn't exist for a moment, which is kind of fucked up.
I don't know how you feel after that.
Yeah.
Now, the beings hung around for a little while longer, scanning the park with their glowing
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eyes as of searching for something unseen.
Now the robot is still there.
He's just smelling flowers and looking at trees or some shit.
Then one of the humanoids tilted its head slightly as if communicating to the other
that hey, we should probably like dip before the cops come.
Yeah.
With that, they turned and walked back into their craft, the hatch sealed behind them
without making a sound.
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The red sphere lifted into the sky and instantly vanished.
Now, before we go any further, I'm going to ask again, how we feeling about these aliens
now?
I so you said they were kind of humanoid, but not really.
Like, so they had like arms and legs and like a head and a torso.
Yeah, two, two arms, two legs.
So they were just nine feet tall, had three eyes and like a weird and like a metallic
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suit.
Yeah.
Now there's like varying reports about the size of their head.
So I didn't leave that in there.
One of them, one source said it had really like a big bulbous head.
The other one said they had tiny heads, kind of like the Koopa Troopers from the Super
Mario live action movie.
The best movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's how they kind of described it.
And I didn't know which one to go with.
I just left that out entirely.
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Well, you know, a lot of men have a really difficult time describing size accurately.
That's true.
That's valid.
Valid points.
I like this.
Even the descriptions.
It's it's really bulbous.
It's really it's really big.
I don't know.
No, it's pretty pretty small, actually.
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Yeah.
You said it was a warm night, not a cold night.
I was in the pool.
Yeah.
It was warm, so it appears bigger than it actually is.
Yeah.
So it's a grower, not a shower.
Exactly.
Now, this entire encounter lasts less than 10 minutes.
So but for a lot of people, and I'm assuming the kid who did exist for a moment, it probably
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lasted a little bit longer.
I'm sorry.
Did you you said a moment did the little boy who disappeared come back?
Were you not paying attention?
Well, no, there was a lot to keep track of.
Yeah.
So did he reappear in the same spot that he disappeared?
Yeah.
Do you need to go back?
No, no, no, I go back.
There was a lot to keep track of.
We've got two three eyed aliens.
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Hey, calm the fuck down.
Take that again.
We've got two three eyed aliens, Ron DeSantis, a pink ship, a little boy smoking cigarettes.
I don't know where I am.
You added the last two things in there.
You know it was there.
I know he was doing it.
Yeah, no, he so he he disappeared and then the boy reappeared.
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He was he was unharmed, but visibly shaken, obviously.
Because now that entire encounter lasted less than 10 minutes, which is crazy because it
sounds like they were taking a lot of time to do whatever it is they were trying to do.
Now the day following the event, the story hit the Soviet press like a fucking bombshell.
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The official Soviet state run news agency, the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union,
or TASS for short, ran an article covering the event, not debunking it, but reporting
it as fact, which at the time was crazy historic.
Like that never happens.
Now in the article, TASS quoted Soviet scientists who admitted that there was something strange
(21:43):
about the physical evidence left behind in the park.
Dr. Genrikh Silinov, head of the Voronezh Geophysical Laboratory, stated that scientists
had found quote, a depression in the ground where the sphere had landed and that they
had recovered two small pieces of unidentified rock from the site.
Silinov claimed that quote, these rocks were not naturally occurring, end quote, and speculated
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that they could have originated from the craft.
They also claimed to have found some metallic fragments at the site, but they quote unquote
vanished before they could be analyzed properly.
Sounds like the aliens just dropped a couple of meth rocks and then took off.
Yeah, yeah, they vanished into the kids' pockets.
Now, the fact that a major Soviet news agency would even entertain the notion of a UFO landing
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was pretty much unheard of at this time, in a sense shockwaves through the international
community.
Western media, including Time Magazine and the New York Times, picked up the story and
they really emphasize the sensational nature of the claims.
And the Voronezh case became like a global debate, not just in media, but UFO researchers
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and skeptics.
They were all arguing, UFO researchers hailed it as quote, the most credible extraterrestrial
encounter in decades, while skeptics, by nature obviously, they weren't convinced.
Skeptics fucking ruin everything.
Just for a second, enjoy it.
Why did they say it was credible?
I don't know, because Tass said it was.
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I mean, if state-run media publishes the story, that's pretty wild.
Okay.
It's kind of surprising.
Whenever you say Tass, I just think of like speed runs in video games.
Well, we'll get to why it kind of seems like a little, it's a little bit more truer than
it's not, kind of, I guess.
I don't know.
But anyways, some skeptics proposed that the whole thing was some sort of Soviet era psychological
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experiment.
For years, they said it was a case of mass hysteria fueled by Cold War tensions and Soviet
propaganda.
And then of course, you got other people saying that the craft and the, like the beings were
part of a military experiment, possibly a classified Soviet project designed to test
public reaction to UAPs.
Kind of like a Project Blue Beam, like they were trying to say was the drones in New Jersey
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was part of Project Blue.
Like kind of like-
Yeah.
Yeah.
Swamp gas.
And the public at large would handle like a UFO invasion.
But what's wild is that even the US government took notice.
So and this is true because if you Google the Verona's UFO incident, there are links
to the CIA's official.gov website with like scanned like shit, like that mentioned this
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case.
Now, the US didn't like make like an official statement on the case publicly, but some intelligence
analysts think the incident was either an elaborate hoax, some sort of like propaganda
thing or maybe just a misinterpretation of some sort of like experimental craft.
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But despite the skepticism, the Verona's UFO incident remains one of the most well-documented
and debated extraterrestrial encounters in modern history.
Now whether or not it's real, you know, it definitely left like an undeniable impact
and not just for those who saw it, especially that one kid that just full on didn't exist
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for a minute.
But it left like a, I was going to say a stain on the world, but it's not a stain.
It left an impact on the world as a whole.
But there you have it.
That is the case of the Verona's UFO encounter.
And that's all I have for you.
I want to know what happened to the kid who vanished.
Yeah.
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Did they interview him ever?
Oh, that I don't know.
I mean, if they did, it wasn't in the Russia propaganda that they put out afterwards.
Where did he go?
Well, that's what I'm thinking.
Like it, clearly it was a threat.
Like if you keep fucking around, you're going to wind up here.
But where could you possibly send a kid that's worse than 1989 Soviet Russia?
(25:46):
New Jersey?
Florida?
The Bible Belt?
It is true.
Like that's like, I couldn't even imagine like the psychological impact that would have
a view just existing and then not existing.
It just reminds me of like a blackout though, kind of.
I guess, but you never dematerialize because there's people around you when you're blackout
(26:08):
that can tell you the stories of things you did when you're blackout that you don't want
to hear.
But they could be lying.
As far as I'm concerned, Saturday night, I stop existing.
He had to be conscious when he disappeared.
Right.
So he's like conscious in the shadow realm and then blinks back into existence.
So they had to send him somewhere.
We don't know that.
(26:29):
We don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe it's like how was it nightcrawler?
Like whenever he like does that fucking like teleportation thing, doesn't he like go to
hell and then come back out?
That's possible.
So maybe it's kind of like maybe he just went to fucking alien hell.
I don't know.
It's all a nightmare.
He could have gone on the ship.
Maybe.
I have no idea.
But anyway, so Mike, how are you feeling?
What are your thoughts, questions, concerns?
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Yeah, I'm concerned with this whole story.
For one, I've never heard of this, which is crazy that it's like you said that I get left
a huge impact because I've heard of a lot of alien encounters and never heard of this.
And yeah, no, please.
And secondly, I think do you think a lot of it was because especially our government involvement
and like reporting on it, do you think it has to do with like Sputnik and all the like
(27:13):
the space race that we had, like however many years ago before that?
This is no, I know.
But like it was still it was still before the crumbling of the Soviet Union.
So like they were still a rival to our space program, even though even though we beat them.
True.
I think but I think like in 1989, like at that point, like I don't even think space
(27:35):
was even our fucking we didn't care about that.
Yeah.
Russia was kind of falling apart by this point.
Yeah.
Like it is a weird piece of if it's propaganda from the Russians, it's it's a weird thing
to do.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like in 1989, like that was like 60s shit.
Like why why all of a sudden?
Because like Russia has a very long history of just like suppressing any sort of like
(27:59):
extraterrestrial encounters or anything like that.
So for this to like be like in the actual state run media is fucking crazy.
The crazy thing is these kids like I don't know, you didn't say how old they were, but
if it was 89, like they're relatively our age.
So these kids might still be alive.
Yeah.
I want to talk to them.
Yeah.
They said they ranged from ages of nine to 60.
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OK, OK.
I believe I read that group of kids.
So I mean, maybe it was just a fucking maybe they hallucinated it from the industrial waste
that was being pumped out into the town because they were known for that.
But I have no idea.
I just want to know where in New Jersey that little boy wound up.
Some Fuddruckers.
(28:44):
Just the lobby of a Fuddruckers and they won't let him in because he hasn't had parents with
him.
Well, the staff lazily sings Happy Birthday to an ungrateful child.
Yeah.
I don't know if they ever interviewed the boy.
If they did, it's not in any sort of thing.
But like maybe it could be like the Philadelphia experiment.
Like maybe he wasn't like disintegrate.
He became part of a battleship and then blinked back.
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No.
Like maybe like maybe like the USS Philadelphia, like that popped up in fucking another time
or like another city for something like a brief moment.
They came back.
Maybe he was just teleported somewhere and they came back.
Like maybe he didn't not exist because that'd be insane.
He like blinked into like his worst nightmare.
(29:26):
So he's just like standing naked in front of his classroom and then blinks back and
the classrooms in New Jersey for some reason.
Why am I in Bayonne?
There you have it guys.
That's the story.
It was fun.
It was cool.
I, you know, I panicked for a minute trying to find an episode and I thought this was
a I had never heard of this before I started researching it.
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So it was cool to learn.
OK, so you haven't either.
That's no, this is all new to me.
That's comforting.
All right.
I can't honestly.
I'm not that I'm like trying to make it sound like I do tons and tons of research, but I
know a lot of crazy alien stories.
I can't believe that I've never heard this before.
Same.
Yes.
I'll send you guys some links.
I'll you know, I'll give you some sources that I use and we'll you know, you guys can
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fucking know.
I believe you ever like crazy.
Do you ever like post links at the bottom of the like the podcast thing?
No, because I'm lazy as fuck and I don't do that.
Nice.
Nice.
Well, if you guys need someone to do that for you, I'm good at that.
Awesome.
All right.
With that out of the way, Mike, I nine.
Do you have anything you want to plug before we sign off?
Usually I give Sarge the floor for this, but you're the guy.
(30:33):
So you can follow me on everything.
If it's EYE and I.
Any just recently, I think like two weeks ago, I got zucked really hard.
They deleted my Instagram.
Yeah.
What happened with that?
Like you don't post anything offensive or anything like that.
Like I don't understand.
No, I don't.
I think it might have to do with the fact that they just like transitioned everything
(30:56):
into AI for their content moderation.
And I just got a message randomly and they're like, hey, you got flagged for community standards.
I was like, OK, like I literally had just posted a story and it wasn't an offensive
story and I clicked on it and they're like, we need your ID, which is weird because I
didn't think I linked it to my personal account, which I didn't.
(31:19):
And so I sent my ID and then they had me do like a face scan.
So I do like this 3D up and down left and right face scan.
And then they like it was under review and then they sent me a message.
They're like, yep, you didn't pass.
You were flagged for community standards.
They never said what it was.
And they're like, and all of your shit's deleted forever.
So fuck off.
That's crazy.
They said I can't appeal it.
They said I can't do anything about it.
(31:41):
But there's a comedian, Ben Palmer, and he happened to him.
Yeah, it just happened to him.
So and he, I guess, sued in small claims court and he got his account back.
And now he has this whole thing set up for other people to do it.
So I just emailed him like my information and hopefully I'm going to sue and get, I
mean, I don't need the money, but like I take them for everything it's worth.
(32:04):
Yeah.
Well, it can only be up to like nine grand, I think.
But you had like a fairly decent following on there too.
I had thousands of followers, 15 years of memories.
I had like pictures of friends that are no longer around and like family members and
stuff.
And like I, there was around on the old phones that I would upload.
I didn't think that it could ever get deleted.
That's wildly fucked up.
(32:24):
Yeah.
So everyone back up your Instagram, I guess.
But my new Instagram is at I nine music, E Y E N I N E music.
I'm on Spotify, iTunes.
I got a new album coming out.
I got a YouTube channel.
If you just Google I nine E Y E N I N E, everything comes up.
Oh, and I have a I nine music.com.
Wait, how do you spell it?
(32:46):
Oh, it's a D E T E R I O R A T I N G.
All right.
Sorry.
That's an inside joke.
Sorry, do you got anything you want to you want to plug before?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, still you can still buy the coloring book.
Probably everyone who listens to this has already done it if they wanted to.
But do it anyway.
(33:09):
Sages supernormal dot com.
It's a coloring book where you can take out all of your extra central dread and do some
word puzzles as well.
That's that's in there.
It's nine ninety nine.
Sages supernormal.com.
It really just take you to the Amazon page, but it's easier to remember this.
And then, yeah, you can find me on the Internet at Saj the destroyer.
(33:32):
Just Google it.
You know, I'm pretty much the only one who comes up.
Yeah.
You said it was such authority.
I love it.
Yeah.
If you want to follow us on Instagram or follow us anywhere else, it's at Crypto Cocktail
on Instagram.
Chris, the Costco party on Tick Tock.
We were in the latest issue of Scars magazine.
(33:53):
Well, yeah, pretty cool.
So definitely get a copy of that.
We're also going to be featured in the upcoming upcoming issue of Para House magazine, which
is pretty cool.
So definitely check them out.
Drink Narragansett.
You better drink Narragansett.
I think legally we have to say that even though we didn't sign anything saying we had to.
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But you know, you know what?
It doesn't matter if it's legal or not.
Yeah, it's the principle.
Yeah.
Especially since Yingling went all Nazi on us.
Narragansett still true blue.
That's fair.
Oh, by the way, crazy that you picked something about the Soviet Union when this whole Zelensky
thing just happened.
I know.
Holy shit.
Dude, that was.
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You know, honestly, though, at this at this stage, I mean, it's kind of impossible not
to find something dystopian and then it have a connection to the super fat orange guy or
his eyeliner wearing lapdog.
Yeah.
But also the the four thousand dollars I got from the Soviet government to do this episode
(34:58):
didn't hurt either.
So.
Oh, nice.
Well, I'll send you my PayPal.
You wait.
You got four thousand.
Don't worry about it.
All I got was two potatoes.
Oh, damn it, Putin, you fuck.
And with that out of the way, I guess, Mike, would you say like say goodbye and I love
you to the audience?
Yeah.
Goodbye.
I love you and see you in the next episode.
(35:18):
Listen, I nine.
Yeah.
And listen to me.
I'm going to go on my new Instagram so I can get some followers back.
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