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John 17: 20-26 - 'Father, may they be completely one.'
Catechism of the Catholic Church Paragraphs:
- 260 (in 'The Divine Works and the Trinitarian Missions') - The ultimate end of the whole divine economy is the entry of God's creatures into the perfect unity of the Blessed Trinity. But even now we are called to be a dwelling for the Most Holy Trinity: "If a man loves me", says the Lord, "he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our home with him"
- 877 (in 'Why the Ecclesial Ministry?') - Likewise, it belongs to the sacramental nature of ecclesial ministry that it have a collegial character. In fact, from the beginning of his ministry, the Lord Jesus instituted the Twelve as "the seeds of the new Israel and the beginning of the sacred hierarchy." Chosen together, they were also sent out together, and their fraternal unity would be at the service of the fraternal communion of all the faithful: they would reflect and witness to the communion of the divine persons. For this reason every bishop exercises his ministry from within the episcopal college, in communion with the bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter and head of the college. So also priests exercise their ministry from within the presbyterium of the diocese, under the direction of their bishop.
- 820 (in 'Toward Unity') - "Christ bestowed unity on his Church from the beginning. This unity, we believe, subsists in the Catholic Church as something she can never lose, and we hope that it will continue to increase until the end of time." Christ always gives his Church the gift of unity, but the Church must always pray and work to maintain, reinforce, and perfect the unity that Christ wills for her. This is why Jesus himself prayed at the hour of his Passion, and does not cease praying to his Father, for the unity of his disciples: "That they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be one in us, . . . so that the world may know that you have sent me." The desire to recover the unity of all Christians is a gift of Christ and a call of the Holy Spirit.
- 690 (in 'The Joint Mission of the Son and the Spirit') - When Christ is finally glorified, he can in turn send the Spirit from his place with the Father to those who believe in him: he communicates to them his glory, that is, the Holy Spirit who glorifies him. From that time on, this joint mission will be manifested in the children adopted by the Father in the Body of his Son: the mission of the Spirit of adoption is to unite them to Christ and make them live in him (abbreviated).
- 2751 (in 'The Prayer of the Hour of Jesus') - Finally, in this prayer Jesus reveals and gives to us the "knowledge," inseparably one, of the Father and of the Son, which is the very mystery of the life of prayer.
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Hi everyone, welcome back to daily gospel exegesis.
And if you've been listening fora while, you know how it works.
We really want to give you the tools to understand the literal
sense of the biblical text. What was the author trying to
say when he use these particularwords in this particular time
period? So really Into the study of the
Bible text itself today. We're continuing in the great
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High Priestly prayer of Jesus. We're looking at John chapter,
17 verses 20 to 26. Jesus raised his eyes to heaven
and said, holy father. I pray not only for these but
also for those who through theirwords will believe in me.
May they all be one father. May they be one in US?
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As you are in me, and I am in you so that the world may
believe it was you who sent me? I have given them the glory you
gave to me. That they may be one.
As we are one with me in them and you in me.
May they be so completely one that the world will realize that
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it was you who sent me. And that I have loved them as
much as you have loved me. Father, I want those.
You have given me to be with me where I am so that they may
always see the glory. You have given me because you
have loved me before the foundation of the world.
Father, righteous one. The world has not known you but
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I have known you and these have known that you have sent me.
I have made your name known to them and will continue to make
it known. So that the love with which you
loved me, may be in them. And so that I may be in them.
So let's start as we always do, by considering the context, what
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is just happened? So the Last Supper has finished,
and they're walking towards the Garden of Gethsemane and it
appears maybe they've stopped topray somewhere.
This prayer that Jesus is praying today.
It started at the start of chapter 17.
It's often called the high Priestly prayer of Jesus.
And when we looked at it yesterday, there's at the the
first part of the prayer has a particular focus on.
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Jesus asking the father to watchover the apostles when they're
faced difficult trials in the world, and we looked at that
yesterday. And as you would have heard,
when I read that passage out, there's some really deep
complex. Trinitarian theology in here.
There's Deep mystical Unity thatJesus is talking about here.
And so in this podcast, we're not going to be able to draw out
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all of the riches that Jesus was, you know, probably
intending. Even we're just going to do our
best to see. What does it mean on the most
literal level of the text. But this is one of those Bible
passages where perhaps the best way to learn from it is to sit
with a meditate on it. Let's start our exploration here
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at the start of verse 20. Now this Phrase here is not
actually in the original. It says Jesus raised his eyes to
heaven and said, holy father. Now, that was part of earlier,
in John chapter 17, but the lectionary has also added it to
the start of today's reading, just to make it a bit clearer
and give it a bit of context before Jesus launches into the
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prayer. Jesus says, I pray not only for
these so Jesus up until now was praying for the apostles.
But now he says he's probably not only for these but also for
those who through their words will believe in me.
So Jesus is now going to pray for all those who will believe
through the preaching of the Apostles in the apostolic age
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and that probably means by extension.
He's thinking of all future Christian Believers, so probably
we if we're Christians These areincluded in Jesus prayer here.
Verse 21. Now, Jesus starts use this
language of Oneness. May they all be one.
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So Jesus, here is praying that all Christians past present and
future will be United in will, and Mission.
That's the main meaning of will be one United in will and
Mission, some Scholars have pointed out that because Jesus
wants all future Christians to be one.
May they all be one if he reallydoes mean all future Christians,
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Jesus. Might be talking about a deep
Oneness, which actually transcends time and space.
In fact, he probably is, he's probably talking about a Oneness
that derives from the Trinity itself, who is outside of time.
You've probably heard this versebefore.
May they all be one and possiblyin the context of discussions
about relationships between Christian denominations, maybe
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The ecumenical movement, you tend to hear it talked about in
those discussions, where the goal of the ecumenical movement
is so that all Christians might all be one.
And that's okay, but we need to keep in mind the next part of
the verse, the next phrase in this verse because Jesus is
going to tell us what it's goingto take in order to Achieve that
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Oneness father, may they be one in us.
So notice that Jesus prayer is not that Christians would be one
in and of themselves, but ratherbe United to God under the
father and the son, that's the Oneness that Jesus wants.
He goes on as you are in me, andI am in you.
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So the father and the son, this Jesus is talking to the father
here. He's talking about the Deep
Intimacy in unity that they already have as members of the
trinity. Jesus is saying that Christians
are called to share a similar Oneness amongst themselves and
with the Trinity. So, to go over that again,
there's this deep Oneness that already exists between the
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father and the son. And Jesus wants Christians to be
part of that same Oneness. We should never forget the kind
of unity. Jesus is looking for here.
Jesus is praying for a deep mystical Union between
Christians and God himself. A deep mystical Union between
Christians and God. Now that would include being in
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line with God's will. We can't have a deep Unity with
God if we're not in line with his will.
So this is the difficult aspect of the ecumenical movement or at
least using this verse to support The ecumenical movement.
The teaching of this verse is that Christians cannot be one
unless we're in line with God's will.
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That's difficult in the academic, human accomplishment,
because different Christians, have different opinions, and
different understandings of God.And so, it makes it quite
difficult to achieve that particular thing.
So with that said, Jesus now explains what he wants.
The final goal of Christian union, Unity to be so that the
world may believe it was you whosent me?
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Jesus desire. Is that Christians would be
clearly United to the father's will and then the world will
take notice of Christians. And as a result, they will
realize that Jesus was indeed sent from God.
That's the end goal of ChristianUnity for the world to take
notice. And to realize that Jesus has in
fact, been sent by God. The goal of Christian Unity.
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Then According To Jesus is not so much for the church per se as
it is. But so, that more people would
be turned to God and his kingdomand his church.
That's the goal of Christian Unity to bring others into that
Unity. So, one of the early Christian
writers, st. Cyril of Alexandria says this
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about this particular verse Christ Wishes.
The disciples to be kept in a state of Unity by maintaining a
like-mindedness and Identity of will being mingled together as
it were in Soul and Spirit and in the Law of Peace and Love for
one another, he wishes them to be bound together.
Tightly with an unbreakable Bondof love that they may Advanced
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to such a degree of unity that they're freely chosen
Association. Might even become an image of
the natural Unity that is conceived to exist between the
father and the son. So such deep complex, relational
language that's used. Here, even from the church
Fathers as they reflected on this passage.
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One thing that's interesting to consider that Scholars have
pointed out is that if Jesus wants the world, to notice the
church and in terms of noticing the church's Unity, that means
the church has to in some sense.Be visible and organized.
So it tells us at least to an extent.
What Jesus wants the church to look like verse 22.
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I have given them the glory. You gave to me.
Jesus is talking about the apostles.
It appears this appears to be a reference to the Divine
communion which exists between the father and the son.
And so since the apostles have now entered, the kingdom of God.
They have their in fellowship with God.
They have achieved eternal life.Jesus is saying that they have
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experienced this Divine communion of the Trinity also,
which is quite phenomenal. The apostles, According To
Jesus. Are experiencing at this moment
that he's speaking the Divine Union with God.
Then he adds this to the end that they may be one even as we
are one. So Jesus desires that the
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apostles and all Christians would be United, just like the
Trinity is so it's incredible. Standard to look, too.
Isn't it? The unity of the Trinity is what
Jesus wants the unity of Christians to look like.
As far as possible. Verse 23, the he starts to use
even more deep language with me in them and you in me, so it's
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the language of deep abiding. T the Trinity dwells within
Christians both individually andcollectively.
As long as they stay joined to God.
May they be completely one or more?
Literally. There.
It says perfectly one. Notice that Jesus says, he
doesn't want Christians to be sort of one or somewhat one.
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He wants them to be 100% perfectly United, just as the
father and the son are now, naturally that would be
impossible to have fallen humans.
Achieve 100% Unity by themselves, is not possible.
But remember, it's the Trinity'sUnion, which is the source of
this Unity. So it is possible.
Regard. And then Jesus against it is
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that the world will realize thatit was you who sent me and that
I have loved them as much as youlove me.
Now, this is not a very good translation.
It's understandable because there's such a difficult
language. In those different pronouns
being used here. I think our lectionary doesn't
get this line. Right?
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So our lectionary has it as and that I have loved them as much
as you have loved me. What the text actually just says
here is an test. Love them as you have loved me.
And so that would suggest the text is talking about the
father. So the father loves Christians,
As much as the father loves Jesus, that that would be a
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better translation. So that is a profound Truth.
The Father loves Christians justas much as he loves the Sun and
Jesus wants the world to realizethat the father has a special
love for Christians. We should never forget that.
The father loves the world and that's certainly a teaching of
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the Gospel of John and he also loves Christians in particular.
And this verse says he loves them as much as he loves his son
and that is an incredible privilege that we get to be a
part of Verse 24. Father.
I want those. You have given me to be with me,
where I am. Jesus desires, that his
followers can be with him in heaven.
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That's what he means by those. You have given me as we've seen
a few times in this podcast. That's a reference to Christian
followers. This is a desire that his
followers would be with him in heaven.
I want those, you have given me to be with me where I am.
You could also interpret this tomean.
He wants followers to be to havethe Divine Unity.
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To the same extent that Jesus has with the father, something
like that. But notice how strong Jesus
desire is to be with his people.I want those, you have given me
to be with me. Where to be with me, where I am.
Jesus wants us to be with him. Then he adds this so that they
may always see the glory, you have given me.
So if Jesus here is talking about, he wanting Christians to
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be in heaven with him and that would certainly seem to be
what's going on here. Jesus is Desiring.
The Christians can see him in his true form, as the Son of
God. And in fact, that is a Christian
teaching in heaven. Christians will be able to
behold Jesus in His True trinitarian Glory.
We will be able to see Jesus with the glory, that the father
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has given him in Catholic theology.
We call this. A to the beatific Vision.
That is what Christians get access to in heaven.
John the author of this passage would like to reflect on this
teaching by saying beloved. We are God's children.
Now, what we shall be has not yet been revealed.
We do know that when it is revealed we shall be like him
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for. We shall see him as he is.
That's in 1, John 3:2. And then he adds this last
phrase because you have loved mebefore the foundation of the
world. This is an incredible deep
trinitarian truth that you couldspend hours thinking about this,
you have loved me before the foundation of the world.
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The father has begotten. The son and has loved him and
bestowed glory on him, since eternity, before the world, even
existed before time existed, thefather begat, the son and has
loved him and he continues To dothis, as well.
Jesus continues verse 25, father, righteous one.
That's what he calls him in thispassage.
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The world has not known you, so,the world, which is those who
don't believe in in Jesus. They do not understand the
father, or his will, because they've rejected Jesus.
But Jesus says, but I have knownyou.
So Jesus himself knows the father's will and these you have
known that you have sent me. So Jesus.
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It says, Christian, Believers, present, and future are those
who know Jesus is sent by God. That's who Jesus is thinking.
Of those who know Jesus is sent by God.
Verse 26, I have made your name known to them.
So Jesus says I have revealed the father's will to my
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followers and will continue to make it known.
This is interesting because Jesus knows that he's leaving
the world. But he still he promises here to
continue to make the father known to his book to his
followers. So he must be teaching that he's
going to do that from Heaven. He will continue to teach
Christians through the Holy Spirit from heaven.
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And we see that particular. In chapter 16 verse 13.
When Jesus talks about the role of the Holy Spirit.
And that's another amazing thingto draw out of this passage
Jesus ministry and his service. To Christians does not end at
his death. He is teaching and guiding
Christians for all eternity, particularly through the
guidance of the church. So that the love with, which he
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loved me. May be in them.
And so that I may be in them. So Jesus desires, that Christian
Believers, would be infused withthe love of the father and his
own presence. He wants his own followers to I
love that the father that he's experienced about the father.
So there's so much going on there and it's well worth
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meditating on if we were to summarize, this particular part
of the Great High Priestly prayer.
We could say something like thisthrough the Holy Spirit, the
Divine love with which the father has loved the Sun from
all eternity. Becomes a living reality in
Jesus disciples as they come to know the father whom Jesus has
revealed more deeply through theHoly Spirit.
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Eret. The disciples love and
participation in the Divine communion will increase until at
last. They reached the goal of
remaining forever in the father's house.
So that is the end of the great High Priestly prayer.
And if you've been following this podcast for a while, over
the last three or four weeks. This ends the long section of
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the complex monologues that Jesus gives on Holy Thursday.
For the next few days in the podcast will be looking at
something different. We have finished the complex
sayings of Jesus on Holy Thursday and you're probably
quite excited about that becausealthough there's a lot of
richness in them and we've certainly done our best in the
podcast. There's also a lot of depth in
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them and it can be quite difficult to stay with them for
a long time. So, well done on getting to this
point. So that's the end of chapter 17.
So if you read on from the Gospel of John, after this you
get to chapter 18 and that describes the arrest of Jesus in
the garden and his various trials on, Holy Thursday and
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Good Friday. Now that whole chapter chapter
18 is read on Every Good Friday.If you go to Mass on Good
Friday, but it's never read in small chunks.
So you don't get a chance to really meditate on specific.
Small parts of chapter 18 and 19.
So We want to break down the text of chapter 18 and 19 as
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So let's finish today and let's finish the sayings of Jesus on
Holy Thursday by looking at somecatechism passages, as we always
do, there's quite a few places in the catechism, which make
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reference. So this, we just want to read
out a few of the highlights paragraph, 260.
This is about the Trinity and the works that the Trinity does
the ultimate end of the whole Divine economy is the entry of
God's creatures into the perfectUnity of the Blessed Trinity.
But even now, we are called to be a dwelling for the Most Holy
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Trinity. If a man loves me says the Lord,
he will keep my word and my father will love him and we will
come to him and make our home with him.
That is an incredible Catholic teaching right there.
The whole point of the Divine economy.
The whole point of salvation forhumans is so that we as
creatures could become United tothe Blessed Trinity paragraph
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877. This is about the ecclesial
Ministry. Likewise.
It belongs to the sacramental, nature of ecclesial Ministry
that it have a collegial character.
In fact, from the beginning of his ministry, the Lord Jesus
instituted the 12 as the seeds of the new Israel and the
beginning of the Hierarchy chosen together.
They were also sent out togetherand they're fraternal Unity
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would be at the service of the Fraternal.
Communion of the faithful. They would reflect and witness
to the communion of the Divine persons for this reason.
Every Bishop exercises his ministry.
From within the Episcopal College in communion with the
bishop of Rome, the successor ofst.
Peter and the head of the college.
So also priests exercise their Ministry from within the
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Presbyterian of the diocese. Under the direction of the
bishop. So that particular passage talks
about how Jesus wanted the apostles to work, particularly
as people, who are going to spread the kingdom of God, and
how that extends to priests and Bishops today.
Paragraph 8, 2 0. This is about Unity.
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Of course a key theme of this passage today has been about
Unity Christ. Bestowed.
Unity on his church from the beginning.
This Unity. We believe subsists in the
Catholic church as something shecan never lose and we hope that
it will continue to increase Until the End of Time Christ.
Always gives you this church, the gift of unity, but the
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church must always pray and workto maintain reinforce and
perfect. The unity that Priced Wills for
her. This is why Jesus himself prayed
at the hour of his passion and does not cease praying to his
father for the unity of his disciples that they may all be
one as you father are in me and I am in you may they also be one
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in us. So the world may know that you
have sent me. The desire to recover.
The unity of all Christians is agift of Christ and a call of the
holy spirit. So here, the Catholic teaching
is the desire to do ecumenism is, in fact, a good one one
that's motivated by the holy spirit because Jesus himself
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wants Oneness in the church paragraph 690.
This is about the Son and the spirit, when Christ is finally
glorified. He can in turn, send the spirit
from his place with the father to the Through believe in him.
He communicates to them his glory.
That is the Holy Spirit who glorifies him from that time on
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this joint Mission will be manifested in the children,
adopted by the father, in the body of his son.
The mission of the spirit of adoption is to unite them to
Christ and make them live in him.
Lastly, paragraph 2751. This is about Jesus prayer.
Finally, in this prayer. Jesus reveals and gives to us
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the knowledge, inseparably one of the father and of the son,
which is the very mystery of thelife of Prayer.
So thank you for sticking with us through these past three or
four weeks, as we've looked at the complex teachings that Jesus
gives on Holy Thursday at the Last Supper in the farewell
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discourse. And now in the great High
Priestly prayer. I hope you'll agree that digging
into it in this way. Gives us so much richness that
we might not get to think about or understand.
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podcast around and we'll see youagain tomorrow.
Hi everyone, welcome back to daily gospel exegesis.
And if you've been listening fora while, you know how it works.
We really want to give you the tools to understand the literal
sense of the biblical text. What was the author trying to
say when he use these particularwords in this particular time
period? So really Into the study of the
Bible text itself today. We're continuing in the great
(00:35):
High Priestly prayer of Jesus. We're looking at John chapter,
17 verses 20 to 26. Jesus raised his eyes to heaven
and said, holy father. I pray not only for these but
also for those who through theirwords will believe in me.
May they all be one father. May they be one in US?
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As you are in me, and I am in you so that the world may
believe it was you who sent me? I have given them the glory you
gave to me. That they may be one.
As we are one with me in them and you in me.
May they be so completely one that the world will realize that
(01:20):
it was you who sent me. And that I have loved them as
much as you have loved me. Father, I want those.
You have given me to be with me where I am so that they may
always see the glory. You have given me because you
have loved me before the foundation of the world.
Father, righteous one. The world has not known you but
(01:45):
I have known you and these have known that you have sent me.
I have made your name known to them and will continue to make
it known. So that the love with which you
loved me, may be in them. And so that I may be in them.
So let's start as we always do, by considering the context, what
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is just happened? So the Last Supper has finished,
and they're walking towards the Garden of Gethsemane and it
appears maybe they've stopped topray somewhere.
This prayer that Jesus is praying today.
It started at the start of chapter 17.
It's often called the high Priestly prayer of Jesus.
And when we looked at it yesterday, there's at the the
first part of the prayer has a particular focus on.
(02:30):
Jesus asking the father to watchover the apostles when they're
faced difficult trials in the world, and we looked at that
yesterday. And as you would have heard,
when I read that passage out, there's some really deep
complex. Trinitarian theology in here.
There's Deep mystical Unity thatJesus is talking about here.
And so in this podcast, we're not going to be able to draw out
(02:54):
all of the riches that Jesus was, you know, probably
intending. Even we're just going to do our
best to see. What does it mean on the most
literal level of the text. But this is one of those Bible
passages where perhaps the best way to learn from it is to sit
with a meditate on it. Let's start our exploration here
(03:14):
at the start of verse 20. Now this Phrase here is not
actually in the original. It says Jesus raised his eyes to
heaven and said, holy father. Now, that was part of earlier,
in John chapter 17, but the lectionary has also added it to
the start of today's reading, just to make it a bit clearer
and give it a bit of context before Jesus launches into the
(03:35):
prayer. Jesus says, I pray not only for
these so Jesus up until now was praying for the apostles.
But now he says he's probably not only for these but also for
those who through their words will believe in me.
So Jesus is now going to pray for all those who will believe
through the preaching of the Apostles in the apostolic age
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and that probably means by extension.
He's thinking of all future Christian Believers, so probably
we if we're Christians These areincluded in Jesus prayer here.
Verse 21. Now, Jesus starts use this
language of Oneness. May they all be one.
(04:20):
So Jesus, here is praying that all Christians past present and
future will be United in will, and Mission.
That's the main meaning of will be one United in will and
Mission, some Scholars have pointed out that because Jesus
wants all future Christians to be one.
May they all be one if he reallydoes mean all future Christians,
(04:41):
Jesus. Might be talking about a deep
Oneness, which actually transcends time and space.
In fact, he probably is, he's probably talking about a Oneness
that derives from the Trinity itself, who is outside of time.
You've probably heard this versebefore.
May they all be one and possiblyin the context of discussions
about relationships between Christian denominations, maybe
(05:04):
The ecumenical movement, you tend to hear it talked about in
those discussions, where the goal of the ecumenical movement
is so that all Christians might all be one.
And that's okay, but we need to keep in mind the next part of
the verse, the next phrase in this verse because Jesus is
going to tell us what it's goingto take in order to Achieve that
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Oneness father, may they be one in us.
So notice that Jesus prayer is not that Christians would be one
in and of themselves, but ratherbe United to God under the
father and the son, that's the Oneness that Jesus wants.
He goes on as you are in me, andI am in you.
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So the father and the son, this Jesus is talking to the father
here. He's talking about the Deep
Intimacy in unity that they already have as members of the
trinity. Jesus is saying that Christians
are called to share a similar Oneness amongst themselves and
with the Trinity. So, to go over that again,
there's this deep Oneness that already exists between the
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father and the son. And Jesus wants Christians to be
part of that same Oneness. We should never forget the kind
of unity. Jesus is looking for here.
Jesus is praying for a deep mystical Union between
Christians and God himself. A deep mystical Union between
Christians and God. Now that would include being in
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line with God's will. We can't have a deep Unity with
God if we're not in line with his will.
So this is the difficult aspect of the ecumenical movement or at
least using this verse to support The ecumenical movement.
The teaching of this verse is that Christians cannot be one
unless we're in line with God's will.
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That's difficult in the academic, human accomplishment,
because different Christians, have different opinions, and
different understandings of God.And so, it makes it quite
difficult to achieve that particular thing.
So with that said, Jesus now explains what he wants.
The final goal of Christian union, Unity to be so that the
world may believe it was you whosent me?
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Jesus desire. Is that Christians would be
clearly United to the father's will and then the world will
take notice of Christians. And as a result, they will
realize that Jesus was indeed sent from God.
That's the end goal of ChristianUnity for the world to take
notice. And to realize that Jesus has in
fact, been sent by God. The goal of Christian Unity.
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Then According To Jesus is not so much for the church per se as
it is. But so, that more people would
be turned to God and his kingdomand his church.
That's the goal of Christian Unity to bring others into that
Unity. So, one of the early Christian
writers, st. Cyril of Alexandria says this
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about this particular verse Christ Wishes.
The disciples to be kept in a state of Unity by maintaining a
like-mindedness and Identity of will being mingled together as
it were in Soul and Spirit and in the Law of Peace and Love for
one another, he wishes them to be bound together.
Tightly with an unbreakable Bondof love that they may Advanced
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to such a degree of unity that they're freely chosen
Association. Might even become an image of
the natural Unity that is conceived to exist between the
father and the son. So such deep complex, relational
language that's used. Here, even from the church
Fathers as they reflected on this passage.
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One thing that's interesting to consider that Scholars have
pointed out is that if Jesus wants the world, to notice the
church and in terms of noticing the church's Unity, that means
the church has to in some sense.Be visible and organized.
So it tells us at least to an extent.
What Jesus wants the church to look like verse 22.
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I have given them the glory. You gave to me.
Jesus is talking about the apostles.
It appears this appears to be a reference to the Divine
communion which exists between the father and the son.
And so since the apostles have now entered, the kingdom of God.
They have their in fellowship with God.
They have achieved eternal life.Jesus is saying that they have
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experienced this Divine communion of the Trinity also,
which is quite phenomenal. The apostles, According To
Jesus. Are experiencing at this moment
that he's speaking the Divine Union with God.
Then he adds this to the end that they may be one even as we
are one. So Jesus desires that the
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apostles and all Christians would be United, just like the
Trinity is so it's incredible. Standard to look, too.
Isn't it? The unity of the Trinity is what
Jesus wants the unity of Christians to look like.
As far as possible. Verse 23, the he starts to use
even more deep language with me in them and you in me, so it's
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the language of deep abiding. T the Trinity dwells within
Christians both individually andcollectively.
As long as they stay joined to God.
May they be completely one or more?
Literally. There.
It says perfectly one. Notice that Jesus says, he
doesn't want Christians to be sort of one or somewhat one.
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He wants them to be 100% perfectly United, just as the
father and the son are now, naturally that would be
impossible to have fallen humans.
Achieve 100% Unity by themselves, is not possible.
But remember, it's the Trinity'sUnion, which is the source of
this Unity. So it is possible.
Regard. And then Jesus against it is
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that the world will realize thatit was you who sent me and that
I have loved them as much as youlove me.
Now, this is not a very good translation.
It's understandable because there's such a difficult
language. In those different pronouns
being used here. I think our lectionary doesn't
get this line. Right?
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So our lectionary has it as and that I have loved them as much
as you have loved me. What the text actually just says
here is an test. Love them as you have loved me.
And so that would suggest the text is talking about the
father. So the father loves Christians,
As much as the father loves Jesus, that that would be a
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better translation. So that is a profound Truth.
The Father loves Christians justas much as he loves the Sun and
Jesus wants the world to realizethat the father has a special
love for Christians. We should never forget that.
The father loves the world and that's certainly a teaching of
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the Gospel of John and he also loves Christians in particular.
And this verse says he loves them as much as he loves his son
and that is an incredible privilege that we get to be a
part of Verse 24. Father.
I want those. You have given me to be with me,
where I am. Jesus desires, that his
followers can be with him in heaven.
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That's what he means by those. You have given me as we've seen
a few times in this podcast. That's a reference to Christian
followers. This is a desire that his
followers would be with him in heaven.
I want those, you have given me to be with me where I am.
You could also interpret this tomean.
He wants followers to be to havethe Divine Unity.
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To the same extent that Jesus has with the father, something
like that. But notice how strong Jesus
desire is to be with his people.I want those, you have given me
to be with me. Where to be with me, where I am.
Jesus wants us to be with him. Then he adds this so that they
may always see the glory, you have given me.
So if Jesus here is talking about, he wanting Christians to
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be in heaven with him and that would certainly seem to be
what's going on here. Jesus is Desiring.
The Christians can see him in his true form, as the Son of
God. And in fact, that is a Christian
teaching in heaven. Christians will be able to
behold Jesus in His True trinitarian Glory.
We will be able to see Jesus with the glory, that the father
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has given him in Catholic theology.
We call this. A to the beatific Vision.
That is what Christians get access to in heaven.
John the author of this passage would like to reflect on this
teaching by saying beloved. We are God's children.
Now, what we shall be has not yet been revealed.
We do know that when it is revealed we shall be like him
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for. We shall see him as he is.
That's in 1, John 3:2. And then he adds this last
phrase because you have loved mebefore the foundation of the
world. This is an incredible deep
trinitarian truth that you couldspend hours thinking about this,
you have loved me before the foundation of the world.
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The father has begotten. The son and has loved him and
bestowed glory on him, since eternity, before the world, even
existed before time existed, thefather begat, the son and has
loved him and he continues To dothis, as well.
Jesus continues verse 25, father, righteous one.
That's what he calls him in thispassage.
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The world has not known you, so,the world, which is those who
don't believe in in Jesus. They do not understand the
father, or his will, because they've rejected Jesus.
But Jesus says, but I have knownyou.
So Jesus himself knows the father's will and these you have
known that you have sent me. So Jesus.
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It says, Christian, Believers, present, and future are those
who know Jesus is sent by God. That's who Jesus is thinking.
Of those who know Jesus is sent by God.
Verse 26, I have made your name known to them.
So Jesus says I have revealed the father's will to my
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followers and will continue to make it known.
This is interesting because Jesus knows that he's leaving
the world. But he still he promises here to
continue to make the father known to his book to his
followers. So he must be teaching that he's
going to do that from Heaven. He will continue to teach
Christians through the Holy Spirit from heaven.
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And we see that particular. In chapter 16 verse 13.
When Jesus talks about the role of the Holy Spirit.
And that's another amazing thingto draw out of this passage
Jesus ministry and his service. To Christians does not end at
his death. He is teaching and guiding
Christians for all eternity, particularly through the
guidance of the church. So that the love with, which he
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loved me. May be in them.
And so that I may be in them. So Jesus desires, that Christian
Believers, would be infused withthe love of the father and his
own presence. He wants his own followers to I
love that the father that he's experienced about the father.
So there's so much going on there and it's well worth
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meditating on if we were to summarize, this particular part
of the Great High Priestly prayer.
We could say something like thisthrough the Holy Spirit, the
Divine love with which the father has loved the Sun from
all eternity. Becomes a living reality in
Jesus disciples as they come to know the father whom Jesus has
revealed more deeply through theHoly Spirit.
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Eret. The disciples love and
participation in the Divine communion will increase until at
last. They reached the goal of
remaining forever in the father's house.
So that is the end of the great High Priestly prayer.
And if you've been following this podcast for a while, over
the last three or four weeks. This ends the long section of
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the complex monologues that Jesus gives on Holy Thursday.
For the next few days in the podcast will be looking at
something different. We have finished the complex
sayings of Jesus on Holy Thursday and you're probably
quite excited about that becausealthough there's a lot of
richness in them and we've certainly done our best in the
podcast. There's also a lot of depth in
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them and it can be quite difficult to stay with them for
a long time. So, well done on getting to this
point. So that's the end of chapter 17.
So if you read on from the Gospel of John, after this you
get to chapter 18 and that describes the arrest of Jesus in
the garden and his various trials on, Holy Thursday and
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Good Friday. Now that whole chapter chapter
18 is read on Every Good Friday.If you go to Mass on Good
Friday, but it's never read in small chunks.
So you don't get a chance to really meditate on specific.
Small parts of chapter 18 and 19.
So We want to break down the text of chapter 18 and 19 as
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bonus episodes by becoming a patreon supporter.
So, if you've enjoyed the way that we've been analyzing these
small parts of texts from the Gospel of John and you'd like to
see the same thing happen to chapter 18 and 19.
You won't get a chance as part of the regular podcast because
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you never hear small chunks of chapter 18 and 19 in the litter.
Here, but if you are willing to become a regular monthly donor,
to help support the work of thispodcast, then you can get access
to these bonus episodes where wedo in exegesis of parts, of
chapter, 18 and chapter 19. We break it down into smaller
parts, so we can keep going through it and really mind the
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riches of this text. So, please prayerfully consider
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more information about that in the show notes.
So let's finish today and let's finish the sayings of Jesus on
Holy Thursday by looking at somecatechism passages, as we always
do, there's quite a few places in the catechism, which make
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reference. So this, we just want to read
out a few of the highlights paragraph, 260.
This is about the Trinity and the works that the Trinity does
the ultimate end of the whole Divine economy is the entry of
God's creatures into the perfectUnity of the Blessed Trinity.
But even now, we are called to be a dwelling for the Most Holy
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Trinity. If a man loves me says the Lord,
he will keep my word and my father will love him and we will
come to him and make our home with him.
That is an incredible Catholic teaching right there.
The whole point of the Divine economy.
The whole point of salvation forhumans is so that we as
creatures could become United tothe Blessed Trinity paragraph
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877. This is about the ecclesial
Ministry. Likewise.
It belongs to the sacramental, nature of ecclesial Ministry
that it have a collegial character.
In fact, from the beginning of his ministry, the Lord Jesus
instituted the 12 as the seeds of the new Israel and the
beginning of the Hierarchy chosen together.
They were also sent out togetherand they're fraternal Unity
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would be at the service of the Fraternal.
Communion of the faithful. They would reflect and witness
to the communion of the Divine persons for this reason.
Every Bishop exercises his ministry.
From within the Episcopal College in communion with the
bishop of Rome, the successor ofst.
Peter and the head of the college.
So also priests exercise their Ministry from within the
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Presbyterian of the diocese. Under the direction of the
bishop. So that particular passage talks
about how Jesus wanted the apostles to work, particularly
as people, who are going to spread the kingdom of God, and
how that extends to priests and Bishops today.
Paragraph 8, 2 0. This is about Unity.
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Of course a key theme of this passage today has been about
Unity Christ. Bestowed.
Unity on his church from the beginning.
This Unity. We believe subsists in the
Catholic church as something shecan never lose and we hope that
it will continue to increase Until the End of Time Christ.
Always gives you this church, the gift of unity, but the
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church must always pray and workto maintain reinforce and
perfect. The unity that Priced Wills for
her. This is why Jesus himself prayed
at the hour of his passion and does not cease praying to his
father for the unity of his disciples that they may all be
one as you father are in me and I am in you may they also be one
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in us. So the world may know that you
have sent me. The desire to recover.
The unity of all Christians is agift of Christ and a call of the
holy spirit. So here, the Catholic teaching
is the desire to do ecumenism is, in fact, a good one one
that's motivated by the holy spirit because Jesus himself
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wants Oneness in the church paragraph 690.
This is about the Son and the spirit, when Christ is finally
glorified. He can in turn, send the spirit
from his place with the father to the Through believe in him.
He communicates to them his glory.
That is the Holy Spirit who glorifies him from that time on
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this joint Mission will be manifested in the children,
adopted by the father, in the body of his son.
The mission of the spirit of adoption is to unite them to
Christ and make them live in him.
Lastly, paragraph 2751. This is about Jesus prayer.
Finally, in this prayer. Jesus reveals and gives to us
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the knowledge, inseparably one of the father and of the son,
which is the very mystery of thelife of Prayer.
So thank you for sticking with us through these past three or
four weeks, as we've looked at the complex teachings that Jesus
gives on Holy Thursday at the Last Supper in the farewell
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discourse. And now in the great High
Priestly prayer. I hope you'll agree that digging
into it in this way. Gives us so much richness that
we might not get to think about or understand.
If we just listen to a sermon atchurch, Thanks again for
listening. Please continue to share this
podcast around and we'll see youagain tomorrow.
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