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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome in too, DC on Screen. I'm your host, David C. Robertson.
This is my co host as always, Jason Goss. He
oh man, it's been a couple of weeks news episode.
We're going to do a news episode tonight, and uh,
let's just go ahead and get into it. There's not
a lot and it might be a long episode. Knowing us,
it might be three hours.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Right, we do have an inverse proportion situation going on there,
don't know how yeh less news more news somehow.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, let's start off with what dropped today. A variety
put out an article Jimmy Olsen DC Crime series in
the works at HBO Max from American Vandal Duo first
season focused on Gorilla Grod. That's exactly what it sounds like.
It is DC Studios and HBO Max developing a fictional

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true crime series set in the DC universe. Keep in
mind it says they are developing. That means it has
not been greenlit. True It is titled DC Crime Show
would be presented as a true crime docu series that
would be hosted by Jimmy Olsen. Skylar Gazando from Superman
the first season would focus on Guerrilla Grod of course,

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that's a flash villain. Primarily Tony Yacinda and Dan Perrault
would serve as writers, executive producers and showrunners. James Gunn
and Peter Saffron of DC Studios would also executive produce,
of course, and with DC Studio's Gallon Baseman overseeing the production.
Then very clearly, it says in the Variety article, HBO,

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Max and DC Studios declined to comment.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Where did the story come from? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It came from Variety?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, yeah, where'd they say they got it?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
They didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's weird. I was, for some reason, under the impression
that this came out of a DC Studios thing, that
this was their comment.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, where the hell we get this?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Then, Brady, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Everyone's talking about it like it's real, but I'm sure
it is real. I'm sure it's like I said, Like
they even said it's being developed. It's not greenlit. And
that's very telling that it's not that they didn't get
back to them. They declined to comment. But you know,

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if this thing happens is Sinda and Peralt, they've done
documentary series before.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
It it just is an odd thing. Go ahead, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
They've done documentary series. They famously did the critically acclaimed
Netflix show American Vandal, which spoofed the true crime genre.
The show aired for two seasons at the Netflix and
won a Peabody Award for his first season, in addition
to being nominated for an Emmy for Best Writing for
a Comedy Series. They went on to create the Paramount

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Plus documentary series Players, which was set in the world
of esports. They previously spoofed the sports world on projects
like a parody of ESPN's thirty for thirty series about
the events of Rocky four, and Angels in the Outfit
Outfield for a college humor. Yacinda also worked on Chad
Powers at Hulu and Dave at FX. Dave is the
only thing I know that he's done. And that was

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that was good.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, you've racked heartily about that one.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, that was a good one. So yeah, I don't know.
I'm not especially excited about the Have you.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Seen American Bandal No, neither of Okay, so we're both
just working working with nothing there.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, no, So I am not especially excited about this idea.
It is a fresh idea, for DC. But you know,
if you're going to do a Skylar Xando Jimmy Olsen
show and then and it might be that's what they're
doing as far as what I'm about to suggest, but
I would push more in the Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen,

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like Silver Age era, you know, because dude Jimmy olds
And had some crazy shit going on in those comics
back in the day. So uh yeah, he would get
into some ship. That would be really fun. Now they
still might be doing that. It's still just it might
just have like a mockumentary framing device. M We just

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we don't know. But since Gun and w B aren't commenting, hmm,
do not take this for Gun telling you what's happening,
because if it doesn't happen, I know, a bunch of
motherfucker's gonna be out here crying that there he lied
to you.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, So all right leaves me with a few questions,
one of which I'm gonna try to answer. Well, I'm thinking,
but who's going to be in like if they do
American Vandal is a parody of American Scandal, I think.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Right, Yeah, I guess so something like that.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
So it was a parody series about like we're trying
to catch this small town blah blah blah, and yeah,
you know if you pull up the trailer there, it's
it's someone that painting painting penises on the city's cars. Yeah,
looks funny, But who's if they If they do this
in d C, where does the joke start an end?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Is would Jimmy be doing it as the parody of another?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Is there?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like is there American Scandal?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I don't, And then this is the parody I think.
I don't think that it would be necessarily the joke. Uh.
I don't think there would be like it would the
parody aspect of it, I don't. I think would be
pared down. I clearly these guys have an affinity for
documentary style productions. I think that's what they would be utilizing. Mostly.

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The parody or the comedy part of it would be
just from I would imagine Jimmy getting into situations Jimmy
himself is funny. Yes, yeah, Jimmy tracking down fucking Gorilla
Grod is funny.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Uh, that would be good. I'm just wondering if it's
if the I'm wondering if they're going to be taking
themselves seriously, and this is and the joke is that
it's going to be funny or if they're going to
be doing the joke. And I don't know how many
walls there are.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm not I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
And that's not again, it's in development, so I doubt
anybody actually fucking working on it knows for sure what
it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, I got curious and just ran down guns threads
account for like today, and yeah, all he's announced is
fam you know the other thing. Yeah, but that's that's
all he said today, So yeah, you're dead right. It's
it's in the in the category of deeply substantiated. There's variety,
after all, that's not let's not pretend that doesn't have
some some weight.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
But there's some half there. But it's still just it's
not official. Yeah, it's not official. We're just gonna need
y'all to go ahead and put those dicks back in
your pants.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
M I'm tempted to tempted to go through this author's
Joe Otterson's thing, to go through his cat and see
if we can trust this scout. You know, we just
don't have time.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
We have time I don't want to do it. I
don't want to do I.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Don't want to go through every article he's written on
I don't give a.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Fuck because you know, James Gunn has said if Warner
Brothers or me do not come out and say it,
don't you know, take it with a grain of salt,
just take it with the green of the trip. I
am willing to go with that. That's why I'm like, yes,
this is a big deal. Yes, it's been all over
my timeline and everyone's I can't give it. Uh, I

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can't get excited about it yet because I just don't
know that it's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
No, No, well, I mean, let's okay. I just I
think it's I think it's real. I think it's being
worked on, right, I just don't know that. Yeah, So
to not even make it sound like we're splitting hairs
on that part, just gun did say all that. So
he also said that he'll kind announce when it's real.
So like, yeah, it doesn't mean anything that he didn't

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say on threads today. It just means that he'll say
it when he's actually got to do it for real,
for real. And in the meantime, this guy when I
did just scan his his articles. Does not seem to
be a quack, so he's probably just describing the situation adequately.
And like you said, hold on, hold on, we'll see
if it's actually gonna be a real show.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah. Yeah, And like I said, like when you look
at the article, he's forthcoming, he says it's in development.
They did not comment. They declined to comment. That tells
you everything you need to know for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I do think I like it, you know, I don't know.
I don't know which version of I think it'll be
weirder if there's like if they're doing a parody inside
the show. I don't know which one's weirder, if they're
doing the parody or being the parody. But either way,
I think Skylar Goazander could have a lot of fun
with this.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I think it's a decent vehicle for a jemything where
he's doing like some kind of tiny investigation by himself.
I also think it would be cool. It turns out
that in this universe, one of the reasons he has
so much swagger it when we meet him in Superman
is because he kind of has a bit of a
personality already and we just didn't get to see that
part because well we really got to see him for
like fifteen minutes in the movie. Yeah, we didn't get

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all the time with them.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
What's funny is there's always those guys that have the swagger,
like you know, there's always like the little scrawny guys
who were kind of dirty.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh yeah, for some aloofness for some reason.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, I feel like if you ask him, well, like
Lois does ask him in the movie, like what's your
what's your trick?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I think if you actually really ask him what's your trick,
he's one of those guys it's like I don't really
care and it reminds him of their dads.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I have a sociopath.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I'm just sort of here, you know, here for it,
I guess because the secret sauce is that I don't
actually care.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
That's so funny. That's sad. Yeah, yeah, I think it could.
I think it could be, uh, you know, a really
positive situation. I think it could be a good premise
to base a Jimmy Olsen show around. I hope it would.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think I would have a good time, like pitching
that in a room with you, Like, I think we'd
have a lot of fun just just pitching like I
did for it. Like it just sounds like a juicy concept,
is what I mean it does.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I hope that whatever the show is that he is doing,
I don't even want the show to be called d
C Crime, Like I would want him to be doing
a different show or a show with a different kind
of name if they did. If he did call it
DC crime in the show, I want a funny explanation
for why it's called DC crime.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, that would be awkward enough to we have to
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, like what does d C stand for? And then
just come up with some weird thing.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, yeah, defiantly confusing crime. This is on you know,
like an early MTV definitely candid radio or whatever. They
call it.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Defiantly criminal, So yeah, the show is defiantly criminal crime.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
No, this is too stupid, so for no one to
have said it before, it stands for dastardly crooks.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I feel like they've got to do something that makes
fun of the fact that is DC comics Detective comics comics.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, but I don't want them to.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm just hoping to d c Crime is a placeholder title.
That's my hope if it's a real.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, which would fit the narrative so far. Hey,
by the way, another narrative it does fit is that
there is a like a lingering thread that Guns said,
you know, there's something we're kind of working on that
I haven't announced yet. This would fit the bill if
it if it turns out that that's the one he
was focusing on.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
But I don't think that's it.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
You know, my guy tells me it's not. And even
in that situation, it doesn't mean that, like this could
kind of have come and gone in the time that
he said those sentences, and that wouldn't be a contradictory problem.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I don't think it is. Though.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't think this was it. I think if this
was the thing that we were talking about, it wouldn't
come out in Variety article.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah. I mean when they when they brought up some
time back a short while ago in an interview Gun,
they brought up the Jimmy Olsen Show, and Gun was like,
we'll get there, we'll talk about it. Yeah, So he
doesn't want to talk about it. I don't think he's
I don't think he's not a place where he's happy

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about it yet. No, not where it is, and that's fine,
not terribly worried about it.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I also have a suspicion that he's kind of installed
a little bit of time off here during this break
that's that happens to be happening. Yeah, yeah, maybe he
seems a little less active on threats.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
He oh, he definitely is. He definitely is. Let's hop
over to Supergirl real quick. There is an interview with
Nerd Tropolis and Supergirl actor David Crumbholtz. She killed me,
now killed me with a sword. He placed Zrel, Supergirl's
father in the in the film. He was asked what
he could share about the upcoming film, and he was

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choosing his words very carefully and hinted at a deeper
look at the legacy of Krypton's most famous family. He says, quote,
it's very true to the graphic novel that is based
on Woman of Tomorrow. I'll just say that I'm thrilled
to be the next piece of telling the story of
Krypton and further clarifying what the House of l is
all about. And a lot of people have been saying, like, oh, man,

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what are what is what are they gonna do. They've
got to resolve the fact that the House of l
there are pieces of shit on Krypton. They're in favor of,
you know, colonizing and fucking taking harems and ruling over everybody.
But you know, I'll point out James Gunn has said

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even why would Zorel know anything about Jorrel's house and
what they were doing, Like, and that's absolutely true. I'll
point that out again, like the same way that you
might be sitting in your house wondering what the fuck
is going through your brother's head because he voted for
the wrong person.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, we're gonna have a similar situation on Krypton.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Zororel might be sitting over there going like, yeah, I
don't know what Jorrel's thinking over there, like not everybody's
gonna have to have a harem. Yeah he doesn't have
a harem? What does he think?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's a funny? Yeah, Like we saw the part of
the tape that went out. We did not see a
couple of minutes later when somebody found them taping that
and like called their version of DHR Yeah, and we're like, look,
they've really we've been putting up with this for years,
these delusions of this like grand idea that everything's going
to fail, you were about to like what you were

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about to kill your child over these fantasies. We we
we need we all need to seek help. Yeah, like, yeah,
a whole ass intervention could have been just minutes before it.
We don't know, Yeah, but yeah, very least it could
just be like, all right, so let's say the world's ending.
There's gonna be a few ways you interpret that, and
you know, hey, let's go colonize somewhere else is definitely
a way to do it. You might have another another

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neighbor down the street, or maybe another you know, brother.
In this case, it's more like, you know, hey, look,
we had our time, and I don't think we need
to put our energy back into the universe. If this
is what we did with the planet we were given
with it, Like these are just just two of the
off the top things that you could think. But he
might also be kind of definitely thinking mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah. I mean he could have just been like, look, man,
there are a bunch of savages, a bunch of savages
in that town. To make a Kevin Smith reference, you're
gonna you know we're yeah or something more sophisticated. We
just are. You're involved like us. You're just gonna have
to take control of things over there. Don't get don't

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let them get you wrapped up in all their drama.
Mm hm. You have the power. Just go down there
and fucking tell them what's what? Rule them with kindness
my son.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, there's just a lot of ways people could have
could have There's a lot of things you could have
left your son with as far as advice goes. And
I'll also say this, they were dressed a little too funny,
Like it's hard to believe everybody on Crypton dresses like
that on the daily uh huh. I think even if
you're kind of like into the world situation, like you

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remember the stories about the Titanic, how there was you know,
one of the captains. Maybe there's a lot of stories
about thinking, like the people who would like put on there,
they're full attire to go drown in their thinking, Like
that's that guy. I don't know what the other people
are doing, but some people are doning in sweatpants right here.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Here's my favorite headcannon. Uh. You know, every time we
see the Kryptonians they're always in these fucking robes and shit.
I just think it'd be funny if that really was
just their like house robe. Yeah, yeah, well do you
think this is a fucking formal gowon. Look, Lara's in
a moo MoU for Fox's sake, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Like the bod like the cloth part is, But she's
wearing like a head situation.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
It's just a normal head situation. I wear a Batman
cap all day.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, but it has I mean it's comfortable. That did
not look that did not look like it was she
was resting easy on whatever the hell was going on
with her head.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
You know, and it might be like helping to align
her spine. You know. You could buy all sorts of shit.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
That would be fun.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
You could buy all sorts of shit from like all
these and Walmart and stuff and be like a scene
on TV.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
No, No, that's just advanced medicine where you don't have
to say, like in our situation right now, you'd have
to put in like a halo and kept in a
hospital for months before you were allowed out, and then
like yeah, they just gave her an at home halo.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Right, Or it could be that Jarelle and Lara were
I don't know, catching up on their favorite like Game
of Thrones type Kryptonian show, and they were like, well,
we'll just send him a little early, just give us
time to watch the finale before the world blows up. Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Another good point that this might have been filmed on
like Kryptonian Halloween.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah they were cosplaying, yeah, or or like that.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Maybe they have. Maybe it's a religious thing. This was Sunday, you.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Know, yeah, I bet, I bet.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Like this our church, our church head dress.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Or you know. They really were just like, you know what,
we're about to send them off. We're gonna have this
hologram playing for him. This is how we'll be remembered.
Might as well dress dress a little nice? Uh? You know.
Jorelle gets out of his fucking he's got a pink
polo shirt with a little tennis racket on it. Yeah, yeah,

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let's get this over the last.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, the last thing they do is like what what
you know? The girl with the mall said, all look
good in this. You were just you were just flirting
with it Like that's that's that's what the argument that
makes it into the first recording.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Uh huh. If we weren't dying in a few hours,
I would divorce Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
All in the last few moments.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Krypton is owned going to explode, just because even it
is tired of hearing your bullshit.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, that would be fun. Actually, just right before they
started the film, they just one of them looked at
the other in the outfit and said, I'm honestly glad
we're gonna blow up anyway, turned the camera. Oh god,
Now that's another good point. There have to be people
out in the streets celebrating. There have to be just

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black pilled motherfuckers out there just going fucking knew it.
We were riding, fuck everybody, let's take about yeah, like
just doomsday drinking out in the middle of the streets,
you know.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna try Heroin today.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Bennye, Kryptonian Heroin. It can't just be regular, It's got
to be Kryptonian.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
And according to that Joreo fellow, we're all going to
be dying in the next few hours from doomsday. How
terribly j June. Yeah, it's like every version of Krypton
we've ever seen. Yeah, all just a bunch of snooty
pseudo Shakespearean talking to motherfuckers, right.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think that's the big danger of doing anything with Krypton.
I think I think we've.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
We've complained about it. That definitely, like just half of
them talking like they're doing performing Shakespeare and the other
half act like they're on Frasier.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, there is just it's a sea
of David Hydpeers's.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
For sure, good God dials.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah. Yeah, But like the other like the issue with
going abauck Krypton in general is what are you gonna
do with it? What?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
What? Like?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
What's your plan? So there's there's a few notes that
you can hit. Everybody seems to relatively hit them. If
you're gonna spend some real time there, that's great, But
you got to really tell me a story every one's
gonna care about, because everyone came here for Superman, not
his grandparents. Yeah, Krypton got canceled after a couple of years,
even though it was actually pretty fucking phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Like it was pretty fucking phenomenal, I want.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
To say, like, oh it had its flaw, it kind
of didn't. It was just genuinely a great show and
it still went away.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, because it cost a little much a bit and.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
It was on the wrong channel to cost a little
bit much. Yeah, but even then it didn't have the
audience it should have had. No one cared because it
wasn't Superman, right.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
It was a bummer, it was. And I know you
didn't watch it. I know you didn't. Not you, but
the listener. Yeah, when I.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Tell you it still probably looks great when I tell
you that.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
We were cliff hung with Ron and Thanagar coming at
each other. Oh god, yeah, we saw hawks and skies.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Man, it's that was a That was a storytelling blue
balls from which I have not fully recovered.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Mm hmm, as if our blue balls weren't in reference
to Wallace Day.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, yeah, truly a good one though, if anyone finds
himself just just short a little bit of comic content.
And this in this waning period between I don't know
what do we got. I haven't remembered that. When the
next event is in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
We'll talk about it. The next one is Supergirl, though
it is super cool. It is Supergirl.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, what is the release? Dan A minute, I need
to just log that I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I should I should just keep these handy because you
asked me every fucking episode. I never know, is it? Everyone? Yeah? God?
June twenty sixth twenty.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Six, thank you, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Moving over to Clay Face. Actually know what, No, stay
on a Supergirl for a minute. I skipped a thing.
I skipped a thing. Fucked me? Fine? Uh, I guess
I gotta mention this real quick. According to scooper Daniel
Wrightman aka Daniel RpK, who we have you know at
least said is hit or miss? Supergirl is reportedly undergoing

(22:58):
two weeks of reshoots that one flue new scenes featuring
David Kors what Superman as always I say, take this
with a grain of salt. If it is happening, it
is probably nothing to worry about. These scoopers, you know,
despite calling themselves insiders, tend to label everything as reshoots
because that word drives clicks, shares and engagement. It is

(23:22):
rage bait. Personally, I don't think it should be called
reshoots if it's actually additional photography. I feel like these
people should be sued by the studio. I think the
studios should sue fucking scoopers claiming reshoots and they're.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Head losing the word incorrectly.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, yeah, I think it.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Would be a nice president to have around for that.
This might be a case where the word might be
applicable because there there's they filmed everything and then to
my mind, man It tomorrow happened. Yeah, like I know
it happened over a period of time, but like he
might be he might have changed a little bit of
how he wanted to do things enough to have made

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a couple of reshoots happen. But like they might have
actually done some adjustments around Manu Tomorrow possibly and not
just to keep saying mat up tomorrow, but is that
what we're calling you right now?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
The next movie it is met up Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Okay, sorry and getting confused with tomorrow Burson got fucked up?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
All right?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, Like there's there's a chance they actually just did legit,
make some decisions and want to do things differently.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
This case, I.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Don't care, would be Yeah, it would not be a
problematic thing even if it happened here.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Most of the time, that's just absolute fucking uh. Libel.
I think it's called when you print it. Yeah, I
want to say it slander if you say it libel,
If you print I could have that entirely backwards.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Uh, yeah, Libel's print.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
We're gonna go with it.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I think, Uh, I'm just going off of that Spider
Man scene that could be slander. Do you remember you
know what I'm talking about? Which one is Spider Man?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Tell me that's that's how I know the different uh?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Or how I know what the character?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Uh's Uh? Peter Parker, you know, trying to I think
he's trying to explain to j Jonah Jamison that Spider
Man is a good guy, like, aren't you afraid of
getting sued for slander? And he goes, uh, of course
not slander, spoken liable something.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I did not know there was a handy aid for it.
It's not there in comic plan. That's help. I like,
I was trying to rememberize it like a fool.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh, by the way, a second ago Supergirl six six
six is what that makes? Right?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I may actually not have to ask you this again
now that I've gotten some kind of okay, it helps
anywhere else though, six six six is very symmetrical.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It tells me, But yeah, I don't I don't know
if this is It might be reshoots and additional photography.
It doesn't matter either way, both are standard of practice
for productions of the scale.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
If it is true, it would explain or it might
explain why the Superman suit suddenly disappeared from the studio.
You the studio tour.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
You remember that.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, I don't remember that, but you know they in
the Warner Brothers studio tour where David Corny sweatsuit was.
And I reported on this a couple of weeks ago
when we talked, Yeah, there was a sign that said,
you know it was it was gone due to production. Yeah,
so that might be why they wouldn't make a totally

(26:24):
new suit for a Supergirl appearance. I don't believe makes
total sense. You know, you see people using this stuff
as proof that the movie's not going well. Reshoots always
get people excited, and I think that stems from fucking
uh X Men Origins Wolverine. That's the first time I

(26:49):
remember seeing any people going like, oh, reshoots are bad
because there were all these reporters. It may have happened before.
I just don't remember it ever happened. I don't remember
ever seeing you think about reshoots until X Men Rigs
Wolverine when people are like it, this move's a fucking mess.
They get reshooting shit.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
That is funny. I have. I haven't the foggiest fucking
idea where I picked up on the idea of that
being a bad thing. I think. I just I think
I'm just the ideal audience. Like I learned about the
word and immediately I learned it as a bad thing.
Mm hmmm, Like I learned about it, yeah, just just
being like, oh, math, you had to reshoot? Oh my god.

(27:31):
Yeah I thought I thought that was just like, yeah,
you shot it and if you didn't get it right,
you had to do it again.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, like fuck, Yeah, I think yeah, I think there
was just a bunch of people who are like, oh
fucking can't get it right the first time?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, they have to red to it too.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, all right, Moving over to clay Face now over
the weekend, I think it was last weekend actually, James
Gunn popped over to social media to commemorate the anniversary
of Clayface's first Aherarents and Detective Comics, writing happy anniversary
to the perennially misunderstood villain clay Face. Can't wait for

(28:05):
you to see Tom Rays Harris bring him to life
on the big screen. Now. The reason I don't normally
bring up stuff like this on the show. This is
a pretty common thing from Gun, but the wording here
carries I feel a subtle but meaningful hint about the
character's portrayal. Perennially misunderstood m hm parentheses slow Newsweek.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Also, we just mentioned earlier he's been pretty sparse on threads.
Got you filling in just a little bit for you context, this.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Is not even the context. Look, you know, if you
look at him and Creature Commando's he was a full
out villain. But here Gun refers to Clayface as perennially
misunderstood he does, which makes me feel like this version
of him is going we're gonna get a little deeper
into him, and we're gonna see that he's more of
a layered tragic figure, not necessarily just a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, I mean all right, So the little bit we've
seen of him, he was just sort of like a
what like a rash, wanna be edge lord personality, kind
of slightly vapid kind of guy. Like it just felt
like a Chad in Creature Commandos. Yeah, like it just
like the person, but like not some someone that I'm like, yeah,

(29:20):
like there's a there's a personality in there. He was
not made to be some like ghoul like the fucking
you know, I'm actually what do you even call the
giant furry uh ginger red thing from the Bugs Bundy cartoons,
because that's what I'm watching. I'm like, yeah, that thing.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
But don't fucking not in the one uh not in the.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
One Halloween episode I was thinking of. But yeah, like
the just some ghoulish, nightmarish shadow creature. No, it's a personality,
Like I watched him crack a joke. It was a
bad one, but at least there's there's something in there.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Look, and I'll point out, you know, Gossamer, he only
went after Bugs Bunny because fucking Peter Lorie offered him
a spider gulatch.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh wow what but uh, I realized I don't think
I told you about this. I realized it recently. But
it was some thread that I saw you on.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh god, yeah, it just just one of those.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
That happened to Cooks. But it was like, hey, what's uh,
what's like a scene that you can't get out of
your head from something?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
But mine was like that is all from Yes, Yeah,
you know, the one Yes from that old all right.
So it turns out it was.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
The ducklings yea final duck.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, yeah, it was that guy and uh and the
and the child's that's that's one's and then uh they
I kept So that was the memory that I realized
I had wrong for a while. Is I keep trying
to make that gossamer that's chasing him around? It's not.
It'sh Gorilla.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah. Two different yeah, two different companies.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
When I went back and listened to the clip, now
it was like John Gorilla, I'm loose. Okay, oh yeah,
I do remember those visual gags now, yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
That is all.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Turns out it happens twice in the bit. Maybe that
in the Maybe that's why it stuck.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
So yeah, if I'm being honest, I'm not sure that
was Peter Lourie. Peter Laurie was. There was an episode
there was a cartoon where Peter Laurie was in charge
of Gosper uh or he wasn't really Peter Laurie. He
just looked like they drew him, and they did Peter
Loriie as a cartoon. But then there was also like
a fat bald guy. He may have offered the Spoder gulage.

(31:43):
Either way, Gossamer is at you know, at the behest
of a of a mad scientist. He's not just coming
after bugs, bunny because he's a dick. Yeah, he's not
a real monster. He's misunderstood.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I mean, bugs in those days had enough people that
were just coming after him just to be a dick
about it. He's gonna catch a stray every once in
a while too.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean, he sat there in his tennis shoes, Rabbit,
he sat there in his tennis shoes and let bugs
give him a manicure. That's not a monster. He's perplexed
and hungry, that's all.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
He's just a character witness for Gossiper.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
For some reason, Gossamer is my favorite Looneyton's character is
he I did not know that. Well. Between Gossamer and
Marvin the Martian.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I mean those are two great option.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Gossamer is a is a very much a dark horse.
Marvin he's also a dark horse, but very very strong
candidates both.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh, how can I ever destroy Earth if I don't
have my Space modulator?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's really not a bad Martian, not a bad Martian.
At also lost myself there for a second.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I love Marva the Martian anyway, Oh what are we
talking about? Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Think the next bit of news, but I don't remember
what it was.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Oh, we're going to Lanterns now. Look so the podcast
Green Lanterns Podcast recently reached out to The Hollywood Reporter
to inquire about a detail included in one of the
outlet's heat Vision newsletters from October. In that piece, the
Hollywood Reporter noted that Supergirl would be the next DCU

(33:22):
installment to debut. Green Lanterns Podcast asked if that meant
Lanterns would debut after the film. In response, THHR said,
you are quite the eagle eyed reader. Yes, we expect
Lanterns will now come after Supergirl. And when this happen.
When this happened, headlines were all over the place that

(33:44):
Lanterns was now delayed. But the only time we got
any idea that Lanterns would be coming before Supergirl was
when he announced. Gunn announced the initial slate and land
Turns was like number four before he announced Supergirl. But

(34:05):
in November of twenty twenty four, Gunn said that they
would come out quote around the same time, and very
recently in one of his multiple interviews a couple of
weeks ago, Gunn said that they didn't have a release
date for Lanterns yet, and that would heavily depend on

(34:25):
HBO Max and their programming schedule, which he was not
completely privy to. The man has not lied to you,
and there was never a definitive plan for Lanterns to
come out before Supergirl. What's more, it doesn't mean that
it's delayed because of some problem because people are saying
people were absolutely a bunch of a lot of people

(34:45):
come out and saying, Oh, it's absolutely it's over. I'm
calling it right now. It's not coming out.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, those those all seem super imposed. I don't know why.
I if you just asked me of my own devices
five minutes ago when Lanterns was coming out, I think
I would have told you. I don't know if there's
an offendive date yet. I don't think I remember one,
because that that's kind of roughly where I've been sitting
with it for a minute.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, there's not.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
So I just fall in the area that this isn't
contentious at all. I just haven't been given a date yet.
M hm.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
So yeah, I just want to bring it up on
the show, because I feel like, generally speaking, we present
a calm rationale in regards to these things. And when
I'm seeing everyone saying, oh, they moved it back, they
moved it, did they? I literally just kept going did they?

(35:36):
Because I don't remember them ever saying when.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember there being a starting date
here to be offended by.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah. So I mean, yeah, it sucks that we're gonna
have to wait until after June for Lanterns. But I mean,
y'all didn't didn't you feel that you needed a break anyway?
Just me? Okay, I mean, I'm so tired, Jason.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Well putting myself in this position. I don't think this
is like an extraordinarily like that. All right, you got
in twenty twenty five, we got an animated series somewhere, No,
that was into twenty twenty four, right, or was it
right at the beginning?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
All right, so we got what we got a little
advertiser with this animated series, and then about the counting Yeah,
and then we got we got a big movie, got
a big, big, big, big, a big fuck off movie.
And then we got like a like a serious let's
get into it, make a like a whole. Like I
felt like we we lived to two straight months of
our lives around the Peacemaker event.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
You know, yeah we did.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I lived inside that show for the for a minute there.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
That is a lot.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
That is a lot. And we're if we're talking about
doing the same thing in twenty twenty six, right, we're
gonna the Hot Summer movie and then we're gonna decompress
with what I'm sure is going to be treated like
another whole last thing and you know there's gonna be
mysteries involved this time.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh well they're worth the lanterns.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm sure gun He Gun, by the way,
did seem to really enjoy he it was doing a
thing on threads. If if anyone listening did not catch this,
he was doing anything on threads.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
That he like.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
It started the first time as hey, when it airs,
we're gonna be sitting down and doing this with you.
And then he kind of didn't like that because it
was distracting. So he's doing a rewatch thing. So you
like it would air on was it Thursdays? And it
was like, yeah, Thursdays on HBO Max. You'd watch it
if you were watching and just kind of watching your phone.
He'd probably maybe tweet something you know somewhere and message

(37:37):
some somewhere in there, but they were gonna do a rewatch,
so like Sundays or Monday nights following you would they
would sit down at eight pm or whatever it is
and do the thing and he would sit there and
you know, him and Steve ag and Jennifer Holland or
whatever would just live message through it. Anyway, the point
being it made it these It was a whole week
of experiences, and then you waited just a couple more
days and the new episode came out. It's a whole

(37:58):
lot of action, a lot of stuff going on. If
I told you there was a big movie and two
two and a half months worth of interaction like that,
you'd be perfectly happy. I don't have to have this
in March of February. But all that to say, I
wouldn't mind it in March of February.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Either, right, You know, to me, we know we're getting
we're gonna get super Girl in June, we're gonna get Lantern.
Somewhere after that, we're gonna get clay Faced. Probably around October,
I would imagine.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
We'll probably be finishing the finale of Lannards about this
time next year. Yeah, just throwing it out.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
There, probably, but also coming out in twenty twenty six
the next season of Might have interest with Superman also
coming out in twenty twenty six, the next next season
of Batman Cape Crusader. No, those two things aren't in DCU,
but they're fucking they're there. Yeah, they're more comic book
material as part of the multiverse, if not that single universe. Yeah.

(38:55):
And also, like, there are plenty of other great things
to watch that aren't dc.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Some animated films that were woefully behind on.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Let me just say blurbos mm hmm, And yes, that's
the way I say it.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Blurbs you you say that like you've developed an eating disorders. Yeah, yep, it'll.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Be all right, y'all. I swear it's like some entire.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
You've had you've had an allergic reaction. Either way, I
feel the need to immediately rush to your home and
help you physically.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
No, you know what I said. I kept saying it
that way, and there's something funny about it, and then
I realized, I told Bethany last night, Oh, it's I
think it's what I hope. Uh, Tracy Morgan yells while
watching the show, I'll be it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
The way you were saying it originally is just so
under annunciate, even for me, is under enunciated in a
way that like it sounds more like you were just
in a weird position on the couch and burned.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Noh yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's spilled out of your arm with accidental syllables.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
You know. It almost sounds like there's some kind of
device you would find on Rick and Morty. But yeah,
uh yeah, no pluribus uh Apple TV. Absolutely go check
that out. It is fantastic. Only two episodes are out,
It's got one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes, has already
been renewed for another season. Uh, it's fucking phenomenal. So

(40:34):
you know, DC fan or no, go go check that out.
I don't even want to tell you what it's about.
Don't look into it, just watch it is good.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, I've only looked at I watched episode one, not two.
I'm gonna watch two premus the moment we're done with this,
Yeah you should. And uh, even then I would say, yeah,
just just believe the hype and go try it. Don't
don't get into it. Beforehand.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I mean it's from Vince Gilligan, a breaking bad and
uh better call Saul though for this, I think it
might be more apropos to say Vince Gilligan of the
X Files, because good lord. Anyway, moving moving on, and.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Uh the side fandom there for you.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, uh, you want to go to a break real
quick and then we'll come back and finish her up.
All right, cool, we'll be right back. Oh right, welcome back.
I have emptied my bladder and I have partaken of
a stroop waffle.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Those are delightful.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
They are delightful. But you know what else is delightful,
d ct M.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Here, you're just empty that bladder. You're feeling it like
a fool. Yeah, all right, well, all right, in their game,
I see.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'm sure not playing anyone's game.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Damn big hydration, big hydration, big urethra, one of the.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
All right, I'm sure everybody or some people, I don't know.
I don't know what anybody's seen. But you know, all
over the place we've been getting reports you know about oh,
Paramount Paramount plus is trying to or Paramount David Ellison
trying to buy uh Warner Brothers. Yeah, and They're like,

(42:42):
well we want to you know, we want to do
twenty three dollars a share, and Ellison and Zad slaps
like fuck you. And now you know, Netflix looked at it,
and Comcast and there all these people are trying to
look and see what's gonna happen here, and and uh,
I know you actually you actually own some stock, don't you.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I about like about like one just so I could
get notifications on some things.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Okay, yeah, I know you. You the other day you
sent me like a picture, like a screenshot, and they
were like, something's about to happen because it was going up.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, it was like after hours, trading went up pretty significantly,
and yeah, that's like, yeah, we're gonna hear about something.
And then the next morning I think it was Netflix was.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, it was Netflix. Uh. I haven't been following it
very closely because at this point we just don't know
what's gonna happen. A lot of people are interested in
Warner Brothers or feigning interest in Warner Brothers. And we
did get a report from Bloomberg, which is what I'm
going to be talking about real quick, that uh, they

(43:55):
were reporting that David Ellison paramount CEO intends to the
existing creative leadership at Warner Brothers intact following any potential merger,
and that would include Gun and Saffron at DC Studios,
which would apparently ensure the continuity of their developing d
C universe. But keep in mind that is a damn liar.

(44:20):
When they took over Paramountain, there was a rather messy
separation with Taylor Sheridan, the creator responsible for a lot
of Paramount Plus's really successful programming. Slate and Sheridan had
been given immense creative control and delivered some massive hits,
and that ultimately left. And then they ultimately left after

(44:44):
clashing with a new leadership over budget and creative freedom
and what he deemed overly political story mandates. Yeah, and
we've already like over on yeah, over on Star Trek Universe.
We've been worried because you know, there have been reporters
that David Ellison uh really wants to you know, shift

(45:04):
it back towards heavily uh right wing talking points and messaging.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah. Yeah, there, I mean there there. I don't see
much point in trying to mince words, uh on the
motivation with it. Really, I suppose I have to thought
about it. But but yeah, the motivation for him buying
it is that the one it makes him a giant
ton of money, and he does it in an arrow
where a Trump wull will just rubber stamp that fucking deal,
because there is no such thing as an anti trust

(45:34):
initiative in America at the moment, So like you'll, you'll
be able to merge whatever you can get away with
merging and send the right money to stamp it. It's
just it couldn't be easier if you're into that. Right now,
he knows this is his best shot. That's the way
to take it, and the it will get more right wing.
It just straight it's it's straight up will He's not
even trying to move it into a moderate territory if

(45:56):
you think it's left right now, he's just straight up
trying to move it into right wing territory. That's what
they're planning. They're they're in Cootes with Sinclair. It's it's
this isn't conspiracy stuff. This is all very much above
board and documented. They said, what the plan is, we
all know what the plan is. Yeah, it's very much
above board. We all know what it is. So that's
that's that's a nightmare scenario, is what it is. Like

(46:17):
we will we'll have a situation, in my opinion, where
we're gonna end up with like you remember, like Superman
in Dark Knight returns.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Like hold on Superman and Dark Knight.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yes, yes, yeah, like the recognized Superman, Like yes, we
might end up with that being the real version because
we will lose creative like full creative freedom will go
away under that deal. Not immediately, it'll corrode, like at first,
it won't feel like much, and then it'll creep in,
and then we'll find things will feel weird for a while,

(46:50):
and then we'll kind of see like we'll see it
shadow boxing at the edges. It'll take years for us
to really feel you know, it's not things won't happen overnight.
This isn't a cartoon, but like it will happen, yeah,
and it'll just be a matter of time.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, I'm worried that Gun will just decide to leave.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
That should be the most immediate worry is that he
just doesn't want to work under those conditions and cause
it a day.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, it might be. You know, there is some level
of hope and you know, you know, when you're dealing
with someonthing like Superman or Star Trek, I feel like
it's appropriate to keep hope on the table at the very.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Least, almost a duty as a fan of these kind
of products.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Right right at the end of the day. My biggest hope,
if you know which Ellison's already bought Star Trek, We're fucked.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
But my hope I know where that bread's better.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Now. Look, man, I mean I've read a lot of
the history of Star Trek, and I know how they
had to get around certain sensors and how they had
to write certain kinds of stories because you know, you
just couldn't say what you meant. But at the end
of the day, it made them more clever. It made
him so much more clever, Like so much so that like,

(48:01):
there are lots of very conservative people who love Star
Trek and never understood just how progressive and lefty it was. Yeah,
but if you're paying attention, if you know what to
look for, you're going, oh shit, they are, aren't they?
And in recent years they honestly like they don't even
write clever stories anymore. They don't They throw a couple

(48:24):
of token gays on the bridge and go see we're
still progressive, right y'all.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
And then they make sure somebody gets the press release
in time to catch the episode.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah, a few years ago on Discovery they're like, oh,
we're gonna have the first non binary character in the
first U trans character, and then they did. They had
like three years and they did nothing with those characters.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Tell something you used, so NOI ue in the CW
era was they would congratulate themselves so heartily on some
of these casting decisions, and.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I'm like, make a good character, that's the most important thing. Yeah,
which I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
They also would do in many cases. It's just that
like we would get annoyed sometimes, like you can just
do it and we'll see the product and we'll congratulate
you without you having to do the press release for yourself.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Stop patting yourself on the back.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
You for herself.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
We don't have to do it. Oh god, you did not.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Need Variety to hit that up for you, I promise.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
So yeah, there's a version of this where I could
go like, oh, okay, well, under intense scrutiny, they might
be able. They might just like be forced to be
more creative. And it's a lot like you know, how
Fox Kids used to you know, uh, beat Deani and
Burnett and company with their dicks and be like now
you can't do this and this and this, and then
wound up making them way more creative.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Oh yeah, and like in certain ways rock music gets better,
you know.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, And now you know with with the chains the
shackles taken off, Bruce dem just like I'm going, yeah,
fuck my my kingdom for the old days.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah, yeah at that. So moving on, I guess that
like there's a few things, there are a few people
in the mix. It will change things. And by the way,
the people you just read off these aren't like fly
by night offers, like we don't hear about some of
that stuff. There's a bunch of phone calls happening behind
the scenes that we'll never hear about. There's people just

(50:17):
calling their buddy just to fill out maybe what people
are in the ballpark of whatever. You'll never hear about
that shit. But the ones that you talked about, uh
was it? Uh so paramount obviously Netflix and Comcast they
didn't just I forget what the term is for this,
but they didn't just like passingly say well maybe they are.
They ask for the financials, Like there's a whole actual

(50:37):
legal process for being like it's called the due diligence
period of looking into whatever you're gonna maybe buy. So
they're doing a proper thing here. And one of the
funny parts is I believe Netflix looked into kind of
the whole thing. And yeah, yeah, yeah, there have been
some some manibolnce, but Netflix looked into just sort of

(50:58):
the whole product. And by if if you can all
cross your fingers for that one, I'm you know, I'll
change my mind and I'll go down with the ship
if I'm wrong. I am wholeheartedly saying, out of what
we have at our disposal right now, you need to
vote for Netflix. Of the options we have, that is
the least of the evils. That's the one I'm crossing

(51:18):
my fingers for. But Netflix was kind of looking at,
you know, like buying the whole thing. I think with
Comcast thing they were partly saying I don't want the
broadcast part. They were maybe looking at buying just like
the creative portion and some of the other piz bits,
but they didn't want like CNN and so and so,

(51:39):
Whereas like, yeah, I think Netflix would be maybe getting
into live TV if they tried to buy it and
stuff like that. I don't know. By the way, that's
another issue with Paramount, was that begetting CNN. You know
that's look, you don't want anything controlled by any one side,
including obviously your your news, but your creative things too.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, I'll do. I do want to point out it's
been for like a couple of years at least that
our buddy Pudd, who works in finance, said, oh, yeah,
Zaslav's just going to build it up, break it apart
and sell it.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Pud's right, been right the entire time.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Yeah, oh yeah, we've we've uh, we've discussed that theory
in detail many times because I've that's been my defensive
zees Lav was like, yeah, he's peace shit. We all
know he's best shit, but he's piece of ship with
a with a job that he intended to do and
he's doing an A plus job at it right now,
Like he the the thing that he missed. He's he's

(52:37):
he's done it, it's about to sell. His people probably
going to get it done and like we're Q four
like we'll probably hear something soon in the next couple
of months. Like he did it, and he took the
stot like this thing was at nine ninety seven or
some shit when I looked at it the first time,
It's at twenty three something dollars right now, that's that's
great growth. He trimmed a bunch of like he did

(52:59):
every thing the wrong way, and he's an evil piece
of shit, and I agree about every last bit of that.
But he did get the stock up and make it sellable,
and that's the only thing he was hired to do.
He didn't give a shit about his reputation or his
soul apparently, like he's just gonna write off into the
sunset with a couple million.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I do think he was right to put Gun in
charge of Gun and Saffron in charge.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
He was gonna get a couple of things, right.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yeah. Also there was, like I do want to point out,
I don't think there was any way to do it
one hundred percent right. Warner Brothers was in such a
fucking state.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
No, I mean when I say that, like he he
was gonna make a serious of decisions. I think anyone
would have made. I deeply suspect that, where some people
have been like, oh he's maybe racist, probably like I'm
not willing to discount any of the stuff where like
this he made this particularly shitty decision because he's a
particularly shitty person. Probably maybe, but a lot of the cuts,

(53:52):
like a lot of the cut fair, a fair amount
of the CW and all that kind of cut. I
would have done it too.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I mean, if you put me in charge of the
same thing, I would have to cut probably fifty percent
of what he cut, just in the same meeting.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, as much as I wanted
to see Keaton again, I probably would have cut back girl.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not. I don't think I'm ever. I'm
always gonna be open to evidence. But right now my
verdict is that that was probably God I hate saying this,
that was probably the right decision.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Oh, I absolutely think it was the right decision. It
was part of a universe that they had no intention
of continuing. Yeah, and they had filmed it for a
streaming service. There's no way it was going to look
good enough to be put out into theaters. There was
absolutely no way to save it. I know.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
The reason I hate saying it, though, was because there
was also some shitty stuff going behind them out of it.
Because they didn't just do anything. It's not a cartoon.
They didn't do anything for one single reason. There's only
three or four, right, and like a couple of them
are shitty, and maybe the shitty ones were a primary
this time.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
And I don't know, man, I mean, give it a
couple of years or I mean you could probably get
away with it. Now. Release the shit, Release the shit,
Release back Girl on some street being service somewhere. And
just like they have like a thing that says this is,
you know, part of a dead universe. Don't don't put
in too much you know whatever behind it.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah, it's making a DVD extra for Supergirl.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, be clear, Like I don't know, have Whoopy Goldberg
come out and say this was made in an older time.
Do you remember that. No, Yeah, it was a big
kerfuffle about it back when it happened. But when they
put out the d the Looney Tunes DVDs, you know
they would have uh, they would have you know on

(55:33):
the car on the cartoons where they you know, did
like black faces and stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah, it would like somebody else come out and apologize
for it.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Specifically Whoopy Goldberg would like pop up and be like
this was made and up in a certain kind of
time what you're about to see.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, I appreciate the preface. Mm hmm, you're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
All right. Uh do you remember the Jenoline YouTube channel?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I know that name.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
This is a This is a girl. I can't remember
what she called, what her show is called, but you
can find her at Hey is Jennoline on threads. She does.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
She did the cameo and Superman. I want to say
she got a little cameo and Superman.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
She may have, she may have. James Gunn likes her.
He and he reposted one of her shows, her videos,
and I did watch it. He said, great video, and yes,
the Brainiac stuff is cool. She did like a whole
breakdown of who Brainiac is and gave like lots of
different versions of Brainiac across multiple continuities. And he says, yes,

(56:41):
the Brainiac stuff is cool. Don't read too much into
that part of me reposting. But what I love is
Jenna Lynn talking about fandom, flanderization and how many fans
believe some aspect of a character is the only quote
unquote true version, usually dependent on when they first came
upon the stories. Think Yellow Oval on Batman's chest all

(57:02):
powerful Superman, wonder Woman made from clay, and how for days, absolutely,
and how that potentially diminishes our enjoyment of stories outside
of what we expect. I absolutely agree with that, And
her video did talk about all about that. It's basically
what it was about, and how you close yourself off
to enjoying a new version of a thing when chances

(57:24):
are the thing that you watched that you're over here
yelling I like the original wasn't the original to begin with?
There are lots of different versions of these characters. We've
preached on this, you know, several times, many a day,
and bitterly I lament that Gun has never retweeted anything
of ours, but.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Fundamentally we agree on the issue.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
No, she's doing the lure's work over there. I've enjoyed
her videos. I just can't remember what it's called. Go
read a comic book or something like that.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Are you able to able to educate me on flanderization
as a term.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Oh, oh, it's it's totally talking about Ned Flanders.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah, that's what I was hoping.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
And how Yeah, they just boiled his character down to
some tropes I did they just? Yeah, they took away
all of his development.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Flanderization has completely worked on me because I didn't realize
that's a thing at all.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah, at some point the Simpsons, they really.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Did just like a verb for it.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Oh yeah, yeah. But at some point in the Simpsons,
like he did just get down to just like a
really do you know he was just like, it's just
Flanders and there's not an actual character behind it anymore. See.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah, in my head, Canada, Flanders is the only thing
he's ever done that was in any way a break
of character is burned the math equation that proves God
doesn't exist, and it's like a one time break in
his hardware. That that's the joke. And then he goes
back to Diddley do you know right?

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I mean there there are a few. There was a
recent episode apparently that did a really good job of
addressing him losing his faith and having some issues.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
But told me about that one. Yeah, he told me
that was a good one. That was a good episode.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, it made me cry too. Yeah, of course it's oversimplified,
and sometimes, you know, certain characters fall through the cracks
for a few seasons and they go, wait a minute,
we need to do something better with this. Yeah, but uh, anyway, Yeah,
it is I think very important to understand that, you know, you,
especially if you're our age. You know, maybe maybe not

(59:42):
if you're like ninety. Maybe you were sitting there going,
I remember what Lex Luthor was a redheaded guy, and
then that one panel changed everything. Yeah, when they accidentally
gave Lex's line to the bold guy.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Well, question, just how how the world with as many
podcasts like ours that do nothing but bitch about things
exactly like that, how is media literacy such an issue
at the moment when we seem flooded with people just
talking about these things?

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But it oh because the people who are having such
issues with media literacy, they don't listen to podcasts because
they're spending all of their time writing shitty, hateful comments.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
It's on the bus, are off the bus experience.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And you know, I have a situation where I don't
like go. We would have more listeners if I would
get online more and argue with people. I've watched my
contemporaries do this. I cannot bring myself to it. I try,
and I do succeed sometimes, but my god, I it's
just it's everything within me. It takes everything. It is

(01:00:55):
like fucking mask on. Do the job for a second.
Try to be nice. God, it's like I almost had
a stroke trying to be nice to a guy earlier
on Reddit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Like that is that that that that place can press you? Yeah,
you know it's bad if you look at your notifications
on Reddit and by the time you look at the comment,
it's no longer showing. Like I've done that and looked
at the down and like the notification on my fatal
show the blurb and a notification and then like the
first sentence or whatever, and say like four minutes and

(01:01:30):
then I try to go to it, search everywhere I can,
but god, nothing not the mod already took it down.
She booted mm hmm, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
I had a I had a comment from a guy
who claimed he didn't understand at all what I was saying.
And his response started, I don't know what copium you're smoking,
but dot dot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
God, that's a great start.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Yeah, and I'm so fucking sick of that word. And uh.
I actually started to write the thing, and then I
was like, Nope, I like this line, but I need
to just like I've got so much more to say.
I need to transfer over to computer and so I
saved this part and I actually literally started it. No copium,
and yes, I too, am thrilled that so many denizens

(01:02:14):
of the Star Trek fandom are clever enough to have
glombed to that dead horse of a term like you
fucking pissed me off. I hate that shit so much.
Like stop saying copium. Oh you're on copium. Oh you're
not clever.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
No, I know that one's an annoying one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Fucking stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Although, just to be a dick, I've started on threads
telling people to write me a five paragraph essay expressing
their feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I could.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, well that's the you can't do that show and
read it, they might.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah, you know what, I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I did well. I got in a very wordy argument
about some science thing the other day on Reddit, and
uh he did eventually give up. Yeah, you know what,
like redd, it is the place where you can just
like you, both of you are writing like a pagraph
back and forth, and it's it's a it's an actual like,
it's not just shouting over each other. There's a little
bit back and forth of responding to points here, but

(01:03:08):
there there are moments where you're like, I'm not sure
if I won with that paragraph or they just gave up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
On it, and I have I have definitely given up
yeah a lot, because there's just a point and I
know it bugs me because I know that they're sitting going, no,
you didn't have not to say back to me because
that I beat them. Yeah, And I'm just I went, oh, no,
you're you were in you were arguing with a wall. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
This is a person who does not have any capability
of understanding what you are actually saying to them anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
This, Yeah, it doesn't make you want to ask, like,
describe just let's pause this argument. Describe as a scenario
in which you would admit defeat. What would that sound
like to you? Like, what is the sentence that I
could possibly say where you would go shucks?

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Like well, and then the first question can't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Even really drum anything up, just just walk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Away the first question. The first part of this is
before you even get there, you go say potato, make
sure they're not a bot? Yeah, and then you move
back like okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
It was one of the five paragraph thing though, is
because even if they do like, there's a part of
me it's like if they if you gpt me a
five paragraf essay by the end of that, I can
tell I know how they write one. I write the
five pair of essay plus like you got at least
prompted a little bit. Yeah, but there's gonna be like
a you know, I want to fuck with you a
little bit, like there's gonna be a long dash somewhere

(01:04:43):
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
By the fucker, if y'all don't get off that fucking
M dash. I've been using M dash for decades and
all of a sudden accidentally and now I used now
now because I'm using M dasher. But I thinks I'm
an AI, and I'm like, fuck you, yeah everybody. And also,
by the way, everybody thinks they know what an AI
rights like or draws like or those.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
And they do not, not you always. And by the way,
how do you think the the what was it called?
How do you think that motherfucker landed in in the
AI's playbook? It's it's it's an L L M. It
was because of you writing with it all those years before,
specifically me and having yes and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
And I stopped years ago because like I think it
was live journals stopped supporting the bit where the M
dash where it like becomes one long ass dash, and
it just like it just stayed two small dashes, and
I was like, oh funk that. I hate that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yeah, it's aesthetically weird.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
It's it's terrible, it's it's upsetting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
So it has it reeks of ASKI.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
I don't know, well, I don't even know what that means. Ask.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
ASK is like a s C I or whatever. It's
like it yes, yes, okay, yeah, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah,
drawing pictures with parentheses and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Ship yes, yes, yes, yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah, so god, that feels like a fucking Taylor Swift
lyric drawing pictures with penth.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
A little bit. Yeah, all right, I would like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Her, by the way, don't I'll take that too hard.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Sorry. Oh yeah, dude, I remember one time you said
something about Taylor Swift joking, and like we got like
three responses from people who just fucking hate her, and
we're like finally, and we're like, what the fuck. It's
like just fucking people like DC's on screen listeners waiting
in the ways, going just say something about Taylor Swift.
So I know it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I like her just fine. I mean, like, I think
writing a song about your fiances dick should have been
a private matter, not just because I mean well I
say that it was actually a pretty good song for it.
It's just that once I realized it's a dick joke,
it mm hmm. Now I wish it was like now
I wish it wasn't something I have to be like

(01:07:02):
picturing the entire time slash skip. It just changes the
flavor of it. It's it was a it was a
very different situation before.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Yeah, I don't I don't want to know about changing
the flavor of Travis Kelsey's dick. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
It's like the moment I caught on it felt like
a I know, there's a little bit of its like, oh okay,
this is kind of a joke, and like comedy's not
as funny the second time. It's like there's a little
bit of me just pushes at like the end of
the album. So I could be like listen to it occasionally,
but like it's not like it's gonna throw this album
on it anytime soon. I'm basically going to hear it
because it's gonna be playing out my house a lot,

(01:07:36):
and I like, which is fine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah, sorry, I've downright loved some of her stuff, and
the new stuff isn't, you know, my favorite. But it's
not terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah, I have a range of emotions from oh to
I don't. There's a lot of ratings here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
I will say it's not as bad as some of
my favorite musical origin is worst albums.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
That is actually yeah, that's deeply true.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, I'm looking at those Christian albums. Bob, Yeah, yeah,
Bob Dylan's He Got a Shot of Love, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, oh hey, while we're in pop star land. I
don't know if this sign your agenda, but the fucking
variety whatet variety?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
It never is, but I always expected.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Which whatever is the agendas? Yeah, you saw and Gun
even responded to this. I think it was Variety that
put out on Halloween Sabrina Carpenter did a concert, did
a little bit of an in costume, of course, and
did some of it according to Variety as Superwoman, and

(01:08:45):
I think it was a Gun hit back or Gun
reposted that Superwoman. Yeah, he just hit like a question mark.
It was funny, but it was funny to me because
like I had seen them do that earlier, that day
and thought really and then a few hours later, I uh,
you know, I'll pop back on and there's him reposting
it again. It's like, come on, now, okay, this is

(01:09:06):
and it had got enough traction for it to beerly
they did, by the way, like later that day I
did see something like they had reposted it with Wonder Woman,
as though the first one had never happened. It was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Mm hmm, yeah, I saw though I saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
It was a great bit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I'll tell you this. She looked good enough. I'd be
like castor yeah, yeah, no, no, far too short, and
I know she doesn't have the dark hair, but I
think she's good to go. Let's just do this all right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
She is a she has a bit short of stature
for that role. But now you can you can shoot
up right. There's nothing from Citizen King.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I learned a few things, but nothing. This helped me
in my real life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, her and Eric Adams either. That was a hilarious
rabbit hole to go down last week. I had some
fun with. There was a there was some fun in
pop Land. I also cannot turn on radio without hearing
Manchild right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yeah, yeah, she's the whole thing, dude, and I love
her music, so, uh, you know, again here for it.
You know, I'm sorry you few DC on screen listeners
waiting in the wings, waiting for us to trash Sabrina
Carpenter so that you know you too can be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
I'll tell you what, Here's I have an olive branch though.
I bet if you name a couple of songs you hate,
I probably hate a couple of them too, because there's
a couple of uh, there's a couple of songs absolutely
fucking loath, but there's a couple of their fucking bangers.
I mean Carpenter, Uh, well, Serena, I don't know her.
I don't actually don't know her cannonballl enough to say
that I hate any of them. I should just just
go like straight through the album here and there and

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just fine, you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I don't know. I don't think. I don't think I've
heard any songs that I hate of Sabrina's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Now, Like in Taylor's, there's a couple that are deeply skippable,
but like, yeah, it's just any band, man, It's just
any band.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yeah, I mean Tom, look, Tom Painney and the Heartbreaker
is my favorite band. Of all time, not my favorite
musical artist because that's Bob Dylan. But I mean, like
I said, if I never hear don't come around here
no more again in my life. All Right, you talk
about skippable, I will like fall over coffee tables to
skip that song.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
I'd be like, nope, I haven't plugged shit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Sorry. Dave Stewart. Yeah, Like I was literally like I've
read books on Tom Penny. The first time I was
reading through that, I got to the part where they
were talking about that album, which is Full Moon Fever,
and I started seeing Dave Stewart from The Rhythmics was

(01:11:48):
helping out, and I was like, oh, that's why I
hate that song. And it's funny because it's like the
exact thing that you always bitch about with all eighties,
like the fucking the snare drum echo or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Yeah, the mic over the stare drum is a huge Yeah,
the genesis Phil Collins echoed snare. And then another major
contention is that there was a lot of major there
was a lot of new toys, and we used some
sounds that were not ready for air.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, and that that song starts out with some fucking
seagulls and the like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah, yeah, all that kind of stuff. People pople just
did more tasteful thing, like you listen to some of
like a lot of the talking head stuff he used,
some of the sense that synth sounds that were just
a little ahead of their time a little better, you
had better taste.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I think people just kind of also forgive David Byrne
a little more because it's just clear that he's a
little weird.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
He is a bit weird.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
I mean, he's gonna come out in oversize suit and
be like and you're like, oh, okay, well he's singing
like he's a robot now, right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Yeah, even that, even that, when I've I've listened to
his book, there was it was he had been listening
to a lot of Southern preachers and he'd been ripping
the cadence off that he'd turned the tone down super
low so he couldn't he did. It's because he wasn't
listening for the words. He was listening for the rhythm
and like the dynamics of how they went about the words.
So that yelping he called it, I like the like

(01:13:19):
psycho like he was. He was calling that yelping. But
like that was a lot of a lot of ways
trying to mimic was that preacher cadence and stuff like
you can hear it when I Know pointed out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Hey, dude, Bowie was doing that too, like Bowie did
that before he did He's like, yeah, change, Yeah, I
do think we could have. My friend Amy has often
said that me and her could have a music podcast.
I think you and I could too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Yeah, I would enjoy it. I would enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I don't feel qualified by any stretch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Uh, the fact that I feel qualified for that conversation
means that I'm not allowed to have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
It, right. I feel like, if O, look, it means.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
That no one wants to hear what I have to
say about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
It, right. I don't think that. I think that's true
of this show, and there's no reason for it me
to ever be talking because like I know, I know
what I'm talking about. But like I have said things
that were just factually accurate, like that I knew absolutely
because I read the article and I understood it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
And reported it sincerely and dutifully.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
And read it will down vote me to fucking filth, Yeah,
because it's just not what they wanted to hear. I'm like,
I'm sorry, I've done extensive research on these things. I
really hate to inform you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
I did that. Well, that was the where I ended
up in that science. The conversation with somebody the other
day was I simply stated a thing. It's it's just
simply a thing. And I was voted to helen back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
One person was like, wait, what about this thing? And
I was like, well, this is about that thing. I mean,
I'm being downvoted, but that's just absolute nonsense up there.
That is clearly people not understanding the premise at all
of what was being disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Yeah, all right, uh okay, so let's get to the
last bit of this. And I knew, I knew we
didn't have much news. I knew we'd get to an
hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, that times about right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Speaking with screen rant, Alan rich.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
You had less pages, we would have done more time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Yeah, it's true. Alan Richson detailed the talks he's had
with DC. He didn't really detail anything, but he did
say that he's not interested in playing a clean cut protagonist.
He says, that's the conversation I've been having with him,
like I want to play somebody a little mess here,
and I told them, I said, if I'm going to

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do this, I described them the kind of personality that
I would want to play and what that would mean
to their world. And I think it's something everybody wants
to see right now over there. So yes, I want
to play somebody a little dirtier than your typical, clean
cut protagonist. Who do you think he's looking at playing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
I don't know. I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
He's already said. It's not going to be Batman. He's
already said it's not going to be that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Yeah, I hate to make that the spoiler because that
it won't be. But that is a bit of a
shame because he would look the He would look the part, obviously,
and he wants to play it a bit angry, and
I don't think that would be the wat I don't
think that would be a bad thing in this situation.
I think I'm angry Batman would match the Superman real well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
I do too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
But but I don't think that is the road we're
going down with with Alan. In the end of the day,
I do not believe that is going to be a
man dressed in black and yellow, gray blue, which of
the man which secondary color you want? Mm hmmm hmm,
black and lesser black. Sometimes it's black and more black.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
It's more of a a a superman like I charcoal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah, yeah, Hypervanta and BATMANA.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Now they're not going to pay that price for to
use Fanta.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
That's that's true. What was the freemian version that that
guy invented?

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
There's a Yeah. Vanta black was something that was was
some pretentious dude made, some pretentious dude made. It was
very talented, but it was the blackest black. He used
like fucking nano tubes yea to like block out the
fucking light. So when you're looking at Vanta something that's
fantom black, it just looks like a hole in the universe.

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It's fucking weird.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
It literally takes in the light and does not reflect
it at appropriate rate to your eye. Has no idea
what to do with it, but.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
He like patented it so that no one can use
it but him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
My understanding is that the only the only part you
can give him credit for in this part of the
story is that he did at least make a breakthrough
that was genuine breakthrough material. But then he was a
dick about everything. He did with it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah, but then like someone else went oh, well fuck
you and then turned around and black or black yeah yeah,
and allowed it for use.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
And my understanding about that guy was was he's just
more egalitarian in his general nature but just thinks things
should be more free than they typically are, but also
hadn't really dealt with black, but was just a bit
of a color's genius in general and basically got pissed
off about the black thing and went, oh, you didn't
want me to play with you, did you? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Yeah, because if you're an art you're bad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
And then you see someone gatekeeping art or something that
could be used for art, sometimes you just got to
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, And if you happen to be also deeply talented,
that may be the wrong motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
So that was a fun story of just like the
right guy getting come up there. I love that story.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
It's a great story.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Yes, Batman would have another black, he would have a
bat black.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah, that would be black. I'm gonna go out on
limb here. I'm gonna say that Alan Richarson is looking
at playing power Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
It would fit most of the anger storyline. Yeah, but
I think him and Alcock have very little in common
and uh yeah, I don't know. That's actually not true.
It's true they could be cousins.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Mm hmm. It would be funny if he wound up
being like, I don't know, Shazam or something like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Yeah. So he's one of the ones that got pictur
around earlier too, And.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I loved him for Captain Marvel Man. I love him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Yeah, yeah, like he looks good that way. My problem,
I'm really having trouble fitting someone that's angry like that,
like Captain Adam was a good situation. Maybe he's definitely
got the build, like I mean, Captain Adams just a giant,
you know, triangle with a star on on front, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Well I think it was as an atom, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I mean the shape of that man is a giant triangle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Though, oh he yeah, but you said a star in
his chest.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Yeah whatever that Yeah, it's the Adam thing on his chest. Yeah,
you're right. The molecule symbol yeah yeah yeah, or the
atomic symbol.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
That's what the fucker it's called, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
There's no molecule symbol, you fucking fool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
I don't like, he's maybe the closest I can really
get along with. But it is just I'm I'm really
having trouble getting the angry part of what he wants
to do because I keep wanting to make that villains.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Yeah he's yeah, he's saying dirtier, he's saying, you know, messier.
That sounds like anti hero to me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
It's it is mostly that, and a lot of people
that are dirty and messy aren't built like that, like
you don't because writers typically make big characters simpler and
smaller characters more deceitful. That's how writers have done things
since the beginning of time, Like you need to be
smaller or you need to be deceitful if you're smaller
in order to get get it, you know, get around

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in the universe problem all about itself. But yeah, I mean,
I guess really like cap Mountain is about about the angers.
But he's not interesting enough for me to carry yet.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
What if he was hit man?

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Also good?

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Yeah, I mean that dude has you know, he's not
exactly the same physically, but uh, I can see it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Yeah man maybe, but again huge like Alan, just he's
an entire unit. I know, I know, I genuinely don't
know who other than Batman in that universe has that
level of anger and size that I'm really like, I'm
blanking gunfire.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
He was on the he was on the the mural
in the Hall of Justice, church or literature. Yeah, I
mean he could actually he could beep wanna beast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Yeah he could. But I do have like a very
brave and the bold flavored wanna beast in my head.
That's just he's a good He's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
A good dude. He's a good lad.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
That would be a trouble. What happened? You know, you
got some fun and like us, his size, like the
robot man m who says we have to make him human.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
He don't. You don't. You don't have to make him
human at all. I don't know. You know, my first
thought would be uh, freaking warrior. But we've already got
Guy Gardner, so it's not going to be that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Well that see that's another one. Like again, you know,
you could maybe shoot him down or something like that,
maybe make him not appear as big as he is,
but like Guy would have been somebody, would you, well
Guy Gardner? Like all right, so Guy was another person
that I was like God.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
No, I mean like no, I mean, why would you
in terms of why would you want to not utilize
his bigness? Why would you shoot him down? No? No,
as anybody, if you got Alan Richson, you're going to
use his size.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Well that's my point. Yeah, So that that was my
objection though, was that, like, guys not, you have to
be known for being big for Alan Rixon to be
playing you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Oh all right, we might be overlooking the obvious here, messy, dirty, big,
grundy motherfucker's hawk man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Yeah, it's true. Yeah, but I have seen that picture
around already. Yeah, I mean I maybe it might have
been nice. I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I mean, I'm sure somebody has come up with it.
I mean I'm not claiming originality here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
No, no, no, I don't mean that part. I mean
like I might have already, Like I might have seen
that flutter around a couple weeks ago and hadn't thought
about it since.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I could see him doing death stroke too. Death Stroke's
an anti hero sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Now. Actually, in Ricon's quote, does he say hero or
does he just.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
He said character? He said dirtier and grittier, but he
didn't say I was assuming.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
We're overlaying the word hero here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
No. Yeah, that's why I said anti hero. And also
he said he's not interested in a clean cut protagonist.
So to me that sounds like I mean, which you know,
a protagonist doesn't have to be a hero. If you're
looking at just their story from their perspective, they are
the protagonist, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
If we open it up completely, if we don't have
to have it, it can be a complete baby face. We
can have some fun then, I mean, like we can
have some real fun you want to have, like a Jonahs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
That'd be okay. I'm kinda if he about JOONAHX sometimes Yeah,
I'm a little gun shy, if you'll excuse the uh
the expression.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Also, I just don't see him going back for the
Old West at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
I don't either. I don't either. I don't like he
won't Oh god, I mean and the one that's gonna
be off bounds that. The other one that's just you
want to is aquamaned.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
That's the one you want to because he's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
A bit, you know, a bit of a twatever once
in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
But like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Again, yeah, but he's not gonna do that again.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
I mean he might, we don't know, Yeah, maybe, I
mean that's just begging to be, you know, confused, because
people will like throw out all everything they know about
the universe and be like it's so small little universe.
No it's not. He just happens to be playing the
same character. Yeah, kind of, but yeah, no, I absolutely

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I would love to see him play Aquaman. Absolutely. Yeah.
I mean also, if we did like a hard they're
not gonna do it because they're doing that with lanterns
with the hard ball detective thing. But if they did,
like a hard ball detective Martian Manhunter, that'd be kind
of cool, true, and I wouldn't mind seeing Alan playing

(01:25:30):
Like I'm looking at a Martian Manhunter on my wall
right now and I'll post a picture of it. Uh, motherfucker,
looks like Alan.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Richson, Is this true?

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Just the ball, Alan Richson?

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
All right, let me throw two at you though, Uh huh.
No reason it can't be Oliver Queen.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Oh yeah no, I mean he's a little thick. He's
a little big for Olie.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
I think, I mean, maybe maybe not. I don't really
see a reason that Oliver Queen can't be thick and
it all be Cannon. I mean, he can't be a
bit swollen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I don't see a reason he can't. I just don't
think of him that way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
I agree. I think of him as a bit more
spelt than that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Sure, a bit live.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Yeah he's not Welter White or anything. But but yeah,
Green Arrow very much possibility. And I did think about
this a couple weeks ago, and I forgot. I don't
know who they got from mister Miracle yet.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Oh, Scott Free, as far as we know, it's just
animated so far, we don't know. I don't know that
we're gonna get him in live action just yet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Well, I would take him a live action by him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Well, you know, Scott Free is. I don't want someone
so big for Scott because Scott, you know, I want
him to look very diminutive next to Barda.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Okay, yeah, i'll give you that. I'll give you that,
all right. But he I kind of hate, would fill
out the leotard very well. And I would definitely buy
him as a new god.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I'll be honest. I'm kind of annoyed there's a Dick
or O'Ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Yes, right, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Uh. I am aggravated that Paul Rudd already played it man,
because he would be great for Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
For you are a dead fucking god. Damn, that was
such a good thought. It almost killed you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
M My throat gave out.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Yeah, simply too much.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Simply too much.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
That is a really good call though, But I mean,
you know, there's a part of me it still wants Booster.
But boosters not angry, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
I don't Yeah, no, I don't want him to be Booster.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Neither Blue and Gold could be that they fit the
bill on a great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
I mean, look, we're talking about a guy. We're talking
about guy who's already played Hawk in the DC universe.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Yeah, there's another character that would fit this bill. He like,
he really is now that I'm thinking about it. He's
just asking me to play the same kind of thing
he's played in the DC over and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Yeah, I mean, and he also I think he was
a Raphael and Michael based him and Tea.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Sons of bitches. Yeah he is, all right, So he's
trying to get himself cast in this role in in
the DC, and uh, we're all here for it because
he's doing a good job with that role. All right.
I'm really I'm re understanding what we're doing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Uh huh huh. Who else could he play that's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Yeah, if we just did him exactly as him and
threw him and you know what would be fun Red Tornado.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
It would be No, I don't want that at all.
It would be fun if he played Baine. Yes, it'd
be fun if he played Baine. And then at some
point he's some have him hanging out with with Batman
in some capacity like anti heroing it up, and then

(01:28:51):
like there's clear animosity, you know, and he's like, hey,
remember when I broke everyone out of Arkham and then
broke your back, like you shut the fuck up Bane?
Yeah that was pretty funny, right, Yeah, No, no, it wasn't,
and we could just skip that in the DCU and
just have it be part of like the vague history
of like they just have this animosity because of that time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Yeah, it's behind him now, but we know, we know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
That was one of my favorite things in the comics
that they did. I think it was in the Gotham
Knight's line where there just came to be a point
where like Bain was just they had they had sort
of an uneasy thing going on where it was like, yeah, well,
you know, I don't like crime either. I just felt
like I had to destroy you, right right, I get it,
you know, to take your throat, yeah right, yeah, all right,

(01:29:38):
so like you're gonna keep your nose clean, right, yeah,
I'll be all right, all right, cool, And they just
kind of did their own thing, and Bain, on his
quest to figure out who his father was, came upon
the possibility that see, yeah, they got pretty close that
his dad might have been Thomas Wayne. So then he's
like hanging out with fucking Batman for a for an

(01:29:58):
arc and being like, oh, we might be brothers. Fuck
you okay, uh, I think we have to figure this
one out.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
It was a fun bit I.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
That lore.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Yeah, I think they think. I want to say that.
They wound up the investigation, took them to Nanda Parbat
or some ship, and they were dealing with rayshaw Ghul
for a minute and kind of working together. It was
a fun dynamic though. It was fun because it was
like Bain was just like we might be brothers, and
He's like, I don't want us to be brothers. Yeah,

(01:30:38):
it was a little Spider Man Deadpool. It was a bit,
but you know in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
That I mean, yeah, but you know, come on, we
all adore a begrudging buddy comedy. Yeah, it's It's one
of the best genres.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
That's what I would love to see, is you have
all of the Nightfall ship in the background or some
version of it. Yeah, and just have this like buddy
comedy adventure with Bane and Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Like Nightfall has happened, but also we're living in We're
living in a present where somewhere in the history is Nightfall,
but also somewhere in the history someone broke the ice
and sent somebody a Christmas card just one twenty three
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Yeah, but it happened. By this point, it would just
all it would have to really be is Batman realizing
that Baine is serious about what he says, which is
I also believe in justice we were take down all
the people fucking with the Gotham give me back my
posta maker.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Yeah, you know, I mean he could go magical, but
like you can get big like Spector or something like that.
But like it might be interesting, that would be funny.
That would be actually really funny because he could fill
out both well enough. And you know, nobody's saying Jason
Blood couldn't be a unit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
M I feel like in comic book movies. You know
what really for God, what I really want is I
want Alan Richson as Batman and that big motherfucker from
Jack Reacher the last season who was like way bigger
than Jack Reacher. I want him to beat Billy and Bain.
That's what I really want.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Yeah, yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Not supposed to just like disavow size when you have
the chance. In the comic book movie, I know, if
you got a big guy, you make him up a
big character, a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Big guy that's that big a name at the moment,
it'd be an absolute fucking waste. It's another character that
just like you know he'd want to is like Constantine,
like and I feel like you do a pretty good
job because he's got an aloofness to pretty much any
role I've seen him in, well, especially in Reatree. He's
got this kind of like i'll talk when I feel
like it kind of thing that Constantine could do really
well with a cigarette, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
But it's just you're not gonna pull off the eighties
scene punk guitar vibe like I It's just Allan doesn't
look like a man who's had a heroin addiction. Nah
like it, Like you said, it's a waste of his size.
We'd just be downplaying that and throwing it all in
the trash and then making me like swallow version of
the character that he could do as he could do
seventy eighty percent of the character's coolness extremely well, and

(01:33:11):
then there'd be that twenty twenty five thirty percent just
what a waste on that bed.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Yeah, it's gonna be really funny if he was that,
they'd come out and be like, Okay, yeah he's Batman,
Like yeah, I really man.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
I'll be a little b annoyed.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
The thing that made more sense was the thing we
were gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Yeah, we looked at all the options and just went, yeah,
let's just do Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Yeah, we're just gonna make him a pretty aggressive Batman.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Okay. Yeah, it's like, look, man, I know that you're
like openly Christian and shit, then you do Jack Riacher.
You're not gonna like come out and be all of
a sudden, like really problematically maga are you no? No, no, okay,
all right, you can be Batman. Yeah yeah, Chris, Yeah,
you're not gonna go zach Levi on us righty. Because
I thought maybe we had something and you know, he
was very firmly in another universe.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Okay, yeah, you a Allen. I forget what he exactly said.
He's got some quote from a few months ago that
was pretty pretty deliberately uh Anti.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Maga, Oh yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
I favor that. God, I don't remember the paraphrase version
of what it was right now, but it was it was.
It was not coy. Yeah, so I think that's part
of the recruiting strategy. He's probably qualified already.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Yeah. I just remember uh stroking an imaginary cat and
going excellent accident.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Actually, I do remember that because that was around the
time that the Batman rumors were hitting, and I kind
of saw the adline and I saw the poll quotes
and was like, m m yep, my boy come definitely
play Batman. Then yeah, same cat.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Yeah yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Had to borrow the cat for a seget to do
that part of the bit. I did stroke something in
the air just now while I was talking. I think
you could hear me doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Frankly, Ah, it's hard to say, you know, when I
actually heard and when I just imagined I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
You can just feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
I definitely didn't feel it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Yeah, I mean the funny part is like, I don't
I don't know how I moved my hands because I'm
just doing them. But like I bet at this point,
as long as we've known that's there are probably points
where you could just close your eyes. But yeah, your
hands are like in the air right now, right, yeah,
I just you're you're pointing at like this whole wall,

(01:35:24):
like yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. How'd you know that? Because
the fucking known you for two decades? Ship, Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Know your gesticulations, sir. I read your book, you magnificent bastard. Yeah.
Last piece of news, James Gunn did announce today that uh,
the the animated show, the newest animated series from BC
Batfam is streaming on Prime Video. I don't care what

(01:35:53):
you guys say and cry into your little cum socks
and do whatever the fuck you do. I think it
looks fun. And if I ever get around to watching
that Batman Christmas movie that basically served as a pilot, yeah,
I'll definitely watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
I'm gonna do both in short order, you know. Again,
even sticking to my Christmas rule, I'm really only a
couple of weeks shy of that kicking in so it's
just not it's not gonna be a big deal. Also,
I don't know how many people. I've had a number
of people tell me already this year that they're just
kind of more than normal feeling like putting out Christmas

(01:36:31):
decorations early.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Uh huh, I might as well just go ahead and
get used to it. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
I don't know what that vibe is. But for some
reason this year, I've had a couple of people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
I never do this, but I just I want to
put up the tree. I don't I get a life
when I don't want to put up two trees this year.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
But ill you think it might be the people who
love Christmas are like keying into the notion that there
were not going to be around for Christmas. That fucking
do you think? Uh whatever? That fucking thing is the rapture? No, No,
what is that thing that's floating around up there that

(01:37:07):
everyone's freaking out about three Eyes something?

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Uh oh, we got another satellite or some shiit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
No, it's like a comment, and then everybody's saying, that's
no comment, the conspiracy thing three Eyes something or another guy.
Uh yeah, because it's like there's showing like they keep
showing all the video. It's like, it doesn't really look
like a comment. Yeah, it's not behaving like a comment. Hmmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
Yeah. We also got like the Black Knight satellite stuff
like that that's out there and not behaving like stuff
and including whole planets occasionally and just being relatively confusing
and no, not having much of an explanation. I don't
put a huge amount of attention to incoming rock storylines
in general, just like coming rock story look but but

(01:37:57):
they hear me out. Version of that is is roughly
that like this, the speed with which we'll see this coming,
we just we won't know we like the the the
the amount of deadening we're gonna do at the speed
we're gonna do it is you know, it won't even
at the speed of of posting. It's not gonna make

(01:38:17):
it my way. We're just we're just gonna be hanging
out and then and then not. So.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
I just kind of don't worry about most of the
asteroid headlines.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, I kind of think like, oh,
well it's three I three I ad lits by the way.
Uh now, yeah, if it is like because some people
are saying like some people are getting on the internet
and being like it's a mothership and it's bringing us
frequencies that'll if we're open to it, we'll uh figure
out how to heal ourselves and trans Uh what was

(01:38:47):
one of them I'm looking for, uh transcend the next
plane into the fourth dimension and like just a oh man, woof,
we're getting we're getting heady up in here.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
I love that there's a competing theory because there's always
that guy. There's always that guy that comes in and
says like, yeah, other ears show us the way. And
then there's always another guy who goes like, yeah, they
didn't come here. If somebody came and found us, they
came for something.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
I think it might be something, but I think it
might just go right by us and go like nope.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Yeah, yeah. I do love that there's a third guy saying, yeah,
they're just gonna kick the tires and bounce. Trust me,
don't worry about it. He won't be around very long.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
I promise they came through just in time to see
Trump at the ballgame, be like say name here, We're good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Now, that's we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
We do we're done, We're done.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Yeah. I love that there's a couple of just obvious
interpretations for what could be happening if we were to
run across something like this and all of them are there,
It's it's it's a rorshack test. It's just a window
into your soul. Which one do you think happening? Like
if you looked up at this guy and it was like,
I don't know, they're probably here for something, I don't

(01:40:04):
want to maybe lend you money, right, but if they
if the other guys like you know, like you know,
they're definitely here to like show us the way and
blah blah blah, like I definitely want to ask that
guy to lend me money. Uh huh doesn't keep track?
Oh if he does, I'll never say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
So do you want to give me money or not?
Because I'm I'm not really of either one of those.
I'm like, yeah, something weird that it's not a comment, but.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Yeah, those are just probably the people who would be like,
I don't know, let's sit down and take a look
at the numbers. Se if it makes sense, I can't
scam you don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
I was just like, yeah, let's see, it might be
might be that something else you know. Anyway, so Supergirl's
coming out next year, and you know, I kind of
fall on Uh, I don't know you I do know,
you know Jason Pargin Uh for the listeners, Uh, Jason Parson.
He's a influencer to some degree. He it was primarily

(01:41:04):
a writer, used to go by the name David Wong.
He's you know, he wrote John Dies at the End
and several other books, several other books, and they're all
pretty good. But he does these incredibly interesting internet videos
and one of the things that he on one of
his videos, he made some great points that I somewhat

(01:41:26):
mostly agree with, where he's discussing how there are a
lot of people, a lot of the younger generations today
are saying the world's ending. There's not going to be
a world who fucking cares? And his point is, okay, yeah,
don't count on that, because that's what I thought, That's

(01:41:48):
what my generation thought. We were like, you know, as
a matter of course, practicing getting under our discs for
when the nuclear bombs hit. We did not believe that
there was going to be a tomorrow. We did not
plan for a future. Yeah, and then we turned it
turned out we were wrong. Yeah, and now we're all
in our fifties and sixties, I'm wondering, what the fuck
are we gonna do? Yeah, we're supposed to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
I know many a person myself included, who are planless
at this age because half suspected that we are ten
to fifteen years past the expiration date already. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Like and it's one of those things too, that like
it's one of the like the divots in the whole,
like uh, or maybe it would be better described as
a feather in the cap for those who don't believe
in global warming, because you know, in the seventies they
said that we were about to have a new All
the scientists kept saying it was going to be a

(01:42:47):
next ice age just coming.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
And then in the eighties the temperature kept changing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
And like eighty four they came out and said, oh,
it's global warming now and we're going to be dead
in twenty years, and none of that shit happened.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
So in the nineties, the burbage change to change is
that way, you can't be wrong now it'll change.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Yeah, Well, I feel like they kind of really really
leaned hard into that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Yeah, in the ear in the aughts again, it went
back and warming, and then it was it was a
funny thing to watch the like, like, you can make
fun of that. But there's a legitimate reason for every
stage of the Yes, actually that is all true, and yes,
there is a legit reason for all of that because science,
science moves.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Yeah, but science moves. That is a thing. Yeah, science moves.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
And then the very buge around it changes at a
different rate, sometimes sometimes a weird artificially inflated one, especially
if I have a bunch of news cycles that do
some weird ship around.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Right. Yeah, it's the verbiage is I think, less scientific
and more pr yeah, related.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
It's what it's stuck like for every for the for
the couple of scientists who are like, oh cool, they
use my term, there's you know, like for every one
scientist you can find, it's like, I'm honored, man, I
can't believe they used the term. There another guy who's like,
I invented that term to mean the exact fucking opposite
of what they.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Used it for, and they mispronounced it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
Yeah, and then for every one of those two you know,
that's two that's that's two percent. Go find the other
ninety eight of those hundred who were like I had
a better term, and no one cared. And and I've
heard them pitch there sometimes and you know, podcast or whatever,
and like you'll hear occasionally, Yeah, I wish we'd call
it this, and I would have been more appropriate. Goddamn,

(01:44:27):
I wish that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Would have made Yeah, but this was illiterative.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, audibly.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
They weren't both hard hard hard seas.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I was thinking about this second ago when you were
talking about aliens, but like, you know, it's kind of
the shrug emoji vibe, Like I love the idea that
they could come and and hop in here, and like
the first thing we'd start showing them if they showed
up in certain areas, one of the first things we'd
start showing them is we'd pull out a bunch of
pictures of them, and we'd pull up a bunch of

(01:45:00):
like movies and TV and stuff that we would show
them cultural like things to show them about them. And
they would get here and be like, y'all are just
a planet full of fucking children. I'm when to bounce
and get back on the ship and leave. And then
you just have one weird story about a guy who

(01:45:22):
and this may sound familiar. You'll have a weird story
about a guy who's been obsessed with aliens his whole
life and has every piece of culture and wears a
I Believe shirt every morning, and then that guy meets
him one day. They met him, and yeah, they bounced,
but he's right, he didn't need him and they were
not impressed.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
I mean yeah, I mean, like the little gray alien
thing comes from, like the one that one couple, the
Betty and Barney Hill. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, who described
the aliens with the bug eyes And now everybody who
gets subducted sees that and no one ever did before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
That the hypnosis, the you know, repressed memory, all that
shit was. That was the story. That was where this
came from.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
That happened for a long time. That happened in nineteen
sixty one, lost time.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
That was another trope that appeared then. Mm hmm, yeah
it wouldn't. Yeah, we've been telling that for a second.
I would love them to show up though, and just
maybe even watch five minutes of that movie with a
with them in it and just a y'all or we.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Misunderstood yeah, because we found.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
This like discout in space with some binary on it
and apparently there. We thought that would be a planet
full of that. But if this is still going on,
we gotta we're gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
I mean yeah, So nineteen sixty one was that Benny
and Barney Hill, Yeah, bullshit. And I think Valiant Thor predates.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
That Valiant Well, I mean, I know, like Roswell does
it was forty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
But the production storyline in the well, so the little
Grays were around for Roswell like that was the picture
we had in Roswell was the Little Gray Man.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
I was under the impression of the Little Gray Men
actually came from Betty and Barney.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Hill, probably earlier in sixty one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
Though no, no, no, no, I don't think they were
from Roswell. I think we retroactively put them into storylines
about Roswell because that's what we think of as aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
We'll see, I don't have them in the aliens, well,
I have them in the Tiny Grays area. But so
the part of the the part of the trope then
they must have set would be like the abduction part,
the repressed memories, the lost time, the you know, and
the look the flashing lights. But no, but the little
gray men, though I'm almost certain was part of the
nineteen forty seven era, like Roswell part, I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Don't think so. I think the nineteen forty seven shit.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Was just just just the sorcer.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
A craft some kind of craft crashed, and then the
government came out and said it was, you know whatever,
the weather balloon.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Yeah, yeah, all right, So we just had the saucer
trope going on at that time, and then they put
literally a face to it in sixty one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Yeah, okay, But Valiant Thor came to earth in nineteen
fifty seven supposedly, and he just looked like us. He
just looked like human, Yeah, supposedly, and lived at the
Pentagon for three years.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
That would be a fun story. So fifty seven, he
comes in, fifty seven, he lives at the Pentagon to
sixty and then at some point the government just sort
of basically finds a random couple and installs this story
in there so he can bootleg the idea of aliens
into the public vernacular without having to actually go out

(01:48:33):
there himself. And also he's probably given us a basic
idea of how to digest that so that we can
see him as something.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Maybe I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Would make at least as much sense as like a
Pentagon plot at that spot.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Then, I mean, you know, you know, first might actually
also be like, I don't know, different races of aliens,
Like valiant Thora was supposed to be from Venus. He
was Venusian. Yeah, maybe there are Reptilian aliens and grays and.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
Well that's what I'm saying. It's like if he might
have seeded the idea of a race that he needed
just to maybe be aware of or worry about.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Yeah, or we're just a zoo and all these fuckers
just keep floating around and just watching us. Yeah, except
for valiant Thor, who was like, eh, they're about to
kill kill themselves with nukes. We gotta go down and
say something to him. Yeah, all injured.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Yeah, but that doesn't that doesn't like contradict the the
you know, watching ants theory, like some of some kids
would use magnifying glasses some like some kids would see
an ants and in a death spiral and just you know,
point them maybe out of it. He would just help
a bug because you just see him on his back
and you're like, yeah, to day's your lucky day. Yeah,
flip him over beyond your merry way. What the fuck's

(01:49:44):
that guy think about life right now? Goddamn, Like, I'm
almost very happy for him that they don't have any
kind of neurology they could really consider anything like that
with because it must it must be absolutely mind blowing.
It's a giant, fucking creature that was supposed to step on.
He just wanders in and for some reason just drops
you off safely and moves about his day. We would
we would be nothing but God's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
I like the idea that, uh, because we most of
us do think like, oh, if aliens notice, they're coming
to kill us, Yeah, coming to to subjugate us and
enslave us. And I like, I really do love the
idea that the aliens are just like, why do you
you know what, That's why we don't come because we
know that all of you think that. And the day

(01:50:28):
that most of you think, well, maybe they're they're gonna
hear they'll come to help, is the day that will
come to help.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Now, all right, So now you've kind of wandered into
the idea that they're just kind of the aliens from
the Simpsons, just sort of watching from like briefly on
the like they're just kind of bumping in and out
of satellites the whole time. They're just chilling out them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Yeah, those motherfuckers were evil.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Well yeah a little bit. But like I'm just imagining
like they've because I do. They don't have like a
like a den of TV's in the background the whole time,
just watching the media. Am imagining that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Maybe am imagining that, but anyway, so that would be
what we'm imagining as like you've just got you know,
well few dramas got them, you know. Uh, there's that
episode where they're trying to watch the it's that calysta
flock cart show from back in the day. Yeah, they're
trying to there's like an Ally mcbill. This is back
in the fucking nineties version of you drama. But like

(01:51:18):
they're ger and whatever, all of them are like they're
trying to watch this show when it gets canceled. Anyway,
long story short, but they were watching an American show
mini meaning Menie me years away. But yeah, like maybe
it's like that and they're just watching our ship and
then you know when they turn it on one day
and it's a little more hopeful.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
The shows the show was single female lawyer and she
was McMeel.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
Yeah that was great.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Yeah, I know it was something weird like that. Look.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Look, there's a brilliant, brilliant joke from the Bill Hicks
I mentioned earlier about maybe the reason that Jesus hadn't
come back is because y'all are still on all those crosses. Yeah,
and every time he's like, Dad, I don't think they learned.
I don't want to go back yet, and he's like, yeah,
we'll keep an eye on it, like I'm not ready.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Yeah, they're not ready.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
That was the painful part. Why would you remember that
when they start wearing fishes, I'll pay attention. Oh and
there are some fishes, to be fair. We accidentally did
like a paranormal podcast that, in my heart, I kind
of wish we've done for years.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Yeah, yeah, you know again, and I'll say this again,
like if we ever get around to doing an actual
paranormal podcast, I really got to try to figure out
how to get my sister on that show as a
co host, because ye, Brittany is the one who will
be like, now, Buffy, all are stupid, Yeah this is
what happened. Well, yeah, but you're forgetting this like, oh shits.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
As you pointed out earlier, knowledge is not requisite, right,
we own a hundred dollars and that's really all you got.
It's really that's the entry point.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
So my sister, my sister Brittany though, like she would
be the one, like if I ever wanted to do
like a podcast about old movies, She's the go to,
right of course. Uh, we are planning a twilight Zone pod,
a rewatch podcast, because we're both obsessed with the original
Twilight Zone. But yeah, like I this week she did

(01:53:26):
come up and we watched Arsenic and Old Lace with
Kerry Grant.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
That's a great one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Fantastic with Peter Lorie, by the way. Uh, I don't
want to do this. Please let let's just do it
the quick way. I don't want to see anymore. Oh no,
you can't do It's so fantastic, like Peter Lorie as
doctor Einstein who just wants Jonathan to stop killing. Oh

(01:53:53):
my god, it's so fun there.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
But you can when you watch that era movies, you
really understand the word pacing in a way you don't
under stand today.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
That movie the way I even remember it now is
just clicking away, just fucking coming at you the whole
fucking thing. Now, it's basically it's so obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
And it's long, and it's relentless, and it doesn't by us,
doesn't break. No, it doesn't break the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Same era though. You can turn on and watch a
Hitchcock movie and like seventy five percent of the film
is just people breathing and like taking a moment before
and after things happened.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Yeah. Well, watching Arsenic and Old lace Man, I felt
like I had gone to a party. Yeah, like I
was exhausted by the end of it. I was just like, yeah,
I kind of do want it to be over, but
but not in a bad way. It's like it's just
anxiety inducing, but in a way like after it's over,
I'm just thinking I'm still thinking about it and going
that was good. Yeah, oh the faces Grant had, Yeah,

(01:54:50):
just like his reactions to like, if you haven't seen it,
go fucking watch it. I've already said.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Too much but well written script, too very good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
And also Apple TV is the one to get it
from because I'm has it an SD for three ninety nine,
don't do that bounce for the four K and in
this three ninety nine on Apple TV four K three
ninety nine, same prize, better quality, looks phenomenal, gorgeous, gorgeous,
fucking quality.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
I thought about old cinema really would be worth that
transition if you can, because I mean have film quality
and all that. M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
And like one of the things, it's like there's a
character named Jonathan and he's had his face worked on
and people keep saying that he looks like Boris Karloff
and it pisses him off. It keeps making it one
of murder people and hilariously, and you can only find
it like one place, and it's like really bad quality,
but hilariously. They did a TV movie version of that

(01:55:47):
play Arsenicon Old Lace, and instead of Carry Grant playing
the main character of Mortimer, it was Tony Randall and
in instead of well, I can't remember who played the
Jonathan character who looks like Boris Karloff in the original,

(01:56:07):
but they actually got Boris Karloff to play him in
the in the TV movie, So that's fun too, And
I'm I found that. I'm like, oh, and Tom Bosley's
in it. Yeah. Go check out nineteen forty four's Arsenic
and Old Lace with Carry grant.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
It's phenomenal, a movie that weirdly we have both somehow
managed to digest in our time from eighty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
Well you know, it's Frank Capra's same director of It's
a Wonderful Life.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
I do not remember how I managed to grab arsenic
and off. I mean, well I kind of do.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
I spent some time as a theater kid, so I
did a lot of watching stuff that was adaptations and
stuff like that. But that is probably how that entered
my lex kan. But I still have a very fond
memory of God Like it's staged.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Well, oh yeah, the blocking is just on fucking point.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Keeps the entire fucking screen moving the whole time. It's yeah,
just great. Characters moved around a lot more then some
Gun has pointed out recently. Just bring it back that
Gun has really harped on, especially in the Peacemaker podcast
and some other stuff, that he just thinks that that's
the big loss in directing these days. I think this
is his new push, and genuinely I think something he

(01:57:26):
might be right to push. He's probably gonna be well
thought of for pointing it out, I think. But yeah,
like a lot of TV shows in particular, the trend
is to kind of set people across from each other
and really let the camera do the moving around and
let them and but no, like Gun's instinct is like, no,
we're gonna block this. There's tape over here, here, here,

(01:57:47):
here's your points, let's rehearse, We're gonna move around. The
screen's gonna come with you. They do a lot of talking.
You know, there was a lot in the podcast about
like crossing the line and stuff like that and editing.
I had to go look up what all the hell
that meant. But yeah, the uh yeah, then wonderful tutorials
out there, of course, but.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
That was one of the That was one of the
things we talked about on the the Theatrical Suicide Squad
is they crossed the line too much into editing because
they had a trailer house fucking editing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, and it makes sense that
I would have been like uh huh m hm and
just trying to keep up with you on that one.
So the in this case though, he really all right.
So the scene with you know, Chris and hardcore hardcore
either at the end where there's one scene where they're
kind of god, I forget exactly when this happened, maybe

(01:58:38):
like episode three. It's a long scene just those two together.
It's before all the breakthrough in the in the fifth,
sixth episodes, all the shit, but like long scene just
those together quietly in a room for like ten minutes,
and they sit on every chair in the fucking room
and they stand in front of the mirror for a
minute while they're at it. Like if you go watch
the scene again, they're moving the entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
The only one that I know of where they're just
really really like still still is in the park, where
you know, I think they're only still for the sake
of its just being a conversation in a park and
we're about to have a go blow up. And then
also a conversation in a park where it's a there
are guns pointed to everyone and we're being still for
a reason. Yeah, But other than that, and just like

(01:59:17):
being stuck in a van, he keeps things moving. But yeah,
I think that blocking is gonna the old stage blocking
and stuff like that's really gonna. I think I think
it does liven things up when he's focusing on that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely, you realize what you're describing
is what Sorcin did.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Yes, yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Yeah. It was always moving with you. I mean he
physically would just like build a hallway that was camera ready, Yeah,
strolling motherfucker down the thing with you, like most of
watching early sorc And stuff, which is like how are
they not tracks everywhere?

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Mmmm?

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
That was one of the first things I when I
was watching that stuff, that was I couldn't figure out
how the fuck he's doing. I just didn't know how
any of the camera works at the time. Yeah, and god,
you know his early stuff, it was way your cameras
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
And it was something I've noticed in doing my rewatching
Star Trek the original series too. It's like there and
I don't you don't see that as much. But they
did do a lot of like you know, pulling down
the hallway, doing tracking shots, watching the car as the
characters are like walking along rapidly having a conversation like

(02:00:23):
they had like the fucking that big circular bridge and
you'd have the camera up over the wall and like
panning around. I mean, they kept it moving and they
knew when to like have these pregnant pauses. Is the
ship is the enemy ship gonna shoot is very submarine,
very like everything's quiet, we're just waiting on whatever is

(02:00:46):
gonna happen. Now.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Yeah, I think a little bit of it gets in
your head, like all right, try this though once, uh,
once you've watched the scene and watched for a scene
where people are moving around like that, uh huh, and
especially on a little bit more like Gun what Gun
did where the camera stationary and a lot of the
shots that we're talking about, he's having the characters move,

(02:01:07):
the camera's tracking them with the camera like in a
West Wing shot, the camera's moving down the hallway with
you the entire time. Characters in in the Uh, it's
in the choreography basically, and this one it's just sitting there,
not crossing its line or whatever. But like it's it's
just chilling, capturing and moving to pan whatever, but not
doing anything with you. I think, though, if you focus

(02:01:27):
on that kind of thing and then you immediately go
watch pretty much anything else, it will look very still. Yeah,
you notice it after he's ruined.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
There are certain Yeah, there are certain definitely certain things
that I notice.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Like go watch only murders in the building, Like it's
mostly Martin Short moving a lot and everyone else being
very still around him, really, which is probably how his
life generally goes.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Yeah, now you're just making me think of Martin Short
and I just like, I'm gonna just laugh about it as.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
You gotta check out Marin Ttore for a while I have.
I don't know if I mentioned this to you as
a as a segue, I'll just to button it into
DC again. At least I have a little I wish
this is one of the things where I wish Gun
had seen my little message, because I really think it'd
be fun and I might just throw it out there
a couple of times to see if he bites, just

(02:02:26):
just see if I get away with it. So if
anyone sees me repost it, just forget me. But I
really Gun has a very particular kind of laugh, and
I kind of just wanted to throw it into a
crowd scene somewhere in like an upcoming product, and see
if we can spot it. Just throw it into the
background of a scene, just a bar scene, and in
the back someone will laugh just like him, and see
if we figure out when that happens in twenty twenty

(02:02:48):
seven in some fucking episode of something.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
Sure, he does have a distinctive laugh.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
It's I think I'll catch it, especially if he told
me it was coming inside like a year, like, if
he told me it'll be in lantern somewhere, I think
I'll fuck It's about it. It's a very particular kind
of howl. It's a breathless thing.

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
All right, Should we wrap it?

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
Yeah? Oh man, oh yeah. But what I was gonna
say is, if I ever did an old old movie
podcast or a paranormal podcast, i'd want you and all right,
I want Brittany on either of those things, but a
paranormal you and her, because yeah, y'all know shit that

(02:03:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
I mean, you can't. I don't think you can know
anything in those realms. You're familiar with stories, familiar with
allegations stories. Yeah, I think if you start saying you
know things and that you're doing a different kind of
podcast than the one I would want to do, I
most soon take the piss on the entire subject.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
Yeah, I'm like a Paul Simon song, man, I only
know hints and allegation.

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
Well, Brittany's a dick about it, though, Like you didn't know,
you didn't know about I.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
I think that would be the dynamic. If it was
us three on it, it would just be that it
would just be her schooling us, and I would know
the terms. Whether I'm that I'm being schooled with better
than you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
Well, I don't know what she's referring to.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
That I also got wrong? Is this thing?

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
Well, once you get past the admonishment portion where she's
just like, you don't know about that? Oh my god?
All right, So these little girls who were reincarringate and
put a metal mask on their face and got a latric,
you know, it would be some kind of fucking weird
shit you just never heard of in your life. Yeah,
And I'm like, I'll be damn. I've listened to every
episode of Supernatural with Ashley Flowers. I still haven't heard
of this. What you got? Throw it at me? All right?

(02:04:46):
Thank you guys so much for listening to DC on
Screen and whatever the hell this has been for the
past thirty minutes. Sure, I hope you had fun. Hope
you enjoyed it. Patreon dot com slash DC on screen
if you want to whatever, join for free or throw
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exclusive episodes. I really want to get back to doing

(02:05:08):
comic castaways. Also, I believe next week in case and
unless something really big comes up in the news, which
it might, it might. I think, you know, we were
doing the Tomorrow Verse. I think we've we've gotten to
a point when I started doing my research and looking
into it, it looks like we're getting back to the
previous universe. It's like Constantine and Miss and House of

(02:05:31):
Mystery and all this shit picking up where Constantine left
off from the previous reality, and they're gearing up for
Crisis on Infinite Earths. So we decided we're just gonna
go back. We've gotta put a pin in Tomorrow Verse,
go back and hit Superman, dooms Day, and just take
care of the other animated films. I don't know, that's
what's we got to do it anyway, Yeah, I might

(02:05:51):
as well go ahead and understand what we're looking at
from from there on in Tomorrow Verse, and might have
some other stuff as I mentioned earlier coming. But uh
oh yeah, I'd love to do more comic castaways for
the Patreon anyway. Five dollars a month for the episodes,

(02:06:12):
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If you just want to get rid of the ads
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Speaker 1 (02:06:25):
Or come in and suggest things and possibly influence it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
Yeah, well you know, oh well you know what. I
hadn't really thought about it, but yeah, I guess the
free people can can suggest shit and that I'd say,
how do you know we haven't done that already? I mean, yeah,
you got to pay to know. I mean, we listened
to it. You know, we'll listen to you. You can

(02:06:48):
just show up on Twitter and be like hey, and
then like in six months when I check Twitter, I'd
be like, hey, someone said this, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:06:56):
Five and three quarter months ago. Whoops.

Speaker 2 (02:06:58):
Yeah, I look, I don't have a spider sense. My
teddies don't tingle when when you leave me a message,
you just gotta you know, Threads is probably your best bet.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
But it really has shifted over the years. But yeah,
right now, it's definitely Threads.

Speaker 2 (02:07:13):
Right now it's Threads mostly and Reddit. Weirdly, I've gotten
into Reddit. You can find me over there. David Underscore
see Underscore robertson where you can find us on DC
on screen on Reddit yeah, and uh, you can also
find me on substack David C. Roberson dot substack dot com.

(02:07:33):
All of this is linked in the in the note
in the show, Well not the Reddit stuff that's not linked,
and I'm not gonna change it now for fox sake,
But so substack is there threads? I think? Yeah, tired,
I'm gonna go. Thanks for listening, We'll be around. Yeah,
bye mate,

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