March 20, 2025 • 51 mins
From floating among glacier ice chunks to soaring down North America's longest zipline, our Alaskan adventure delivered one extraordinary experience after another. The majesty of the Hubbard Glacier left us speechless as we kayaked through what our guide described as "a giant margarita" of floating ice, witnessing the thunderous calving of ice chunks into the crystal-clear waters. Though we missed our kayak excursion in the Indian Islands due to timing confusion, the resulting Zodiac tour took us to breathtaking wilderness areas where we spotted sea lions, otters, and countless seabirds against pristine backdrops.
The adrenaline peak of our journey happened at Icy Straight Point, where we conquered North America's longest zipline – a heart-pounding 5,490-foot ride soaring at 60mph while dangling 1,330 feet above sea level. The emotional release upon landing caught us by surprise; we found ourselves simultaneously laughing and crying, overwhelmed by the beauty and exhilaration of flying above the Alaskan wilderness.
Quaint towns delivered their own magic. In Haines, we discovered the charming Hammer Museum with its passionate docent describing their collection with "craftsmanship out the yang." Juneau captured our hearts with a delightful food tour introducing us to spruce tip products and local delicacies, while teaching us about Tlingit culture, including the fascinating tradition of "shame poles" and the symbolic eagle-raven "lovebirds." But perhaps our most cherished Juneau memory was discovering Deckhand Dave's fish tacos – so incredible we returned three times in one day! Throughout our journey, we experienced what we call "travel magic" – those unplanned moments and serendipitous encounters that transform a trip into something truly special. Come along as we share these unforgettable Alaskan moments and the travel wisdom we gained along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Dead Mom's Scavenger Hunt.
I'm Christmas, I'm Cara, andhere we are.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is Birdie.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are still on the Alaskan tour.
Yep, so we're recapping all ofthis.
I mean, and obviously I thinkit doesn't even need to be said,
if you don't want to hear this,like, skip these episodes.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely.
This is as much for us to justenjoy reliving.
Yes, but I am going to put allbecause we did a great job of
photojournalism, putting it on,if we do say so ourselves, if we
do say so, except when Kara wastaking pictures, because she
sucks absolute donkey dick.
True, but I am going to putthese on our DMSH, instagram, in
(00:38):
Instagram highlights which youcan find at DMSH pod on
Instagram.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, so when we last left off.
We left Sitka.
We got back on the boat, but Ijust want to circle back because
I did just call the P-Bar.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh, the Pioneer Bar, the P-Bar.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, if you're cool people up there called the P-Bar
.
Yeah that's how she answeredthe phone P-Bar.
So I called to remind us whatthe name of the signature shot
was.
It's been confirmed it is wetpussy it is a wet pussy um.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We saw her make 27 of them like at once and we drank
one.
One was enough for me.
Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It kind of tasted like a cosmopolitan I think I
had like some guava and some gin, and no, that was cranberry,
there's no that wasnopolitan.
I think it had like some guavaand some gin and some vodka no,
that was cranberry.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That wasn't tropical, it was like ocean spray
cranberry.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
and regret I mean if you go there, you kind of have
to do it, though.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh, it was fun.
I'd do it again.
Yeah, anytime I'm there.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So I just learned too they have a signature drink in
addition to a signature shot,Because their their signature
drink is a turntable.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
If you have two turntables and a microphone, is
there a?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
microphone.
Okay, Anyway, we digress Onthis episode, on this leg of the
trip, on this at this juncturein our great adventure.
We have left Sitka and we areon the open seas.
I think this is where we wentfrom, like kind of the inland
area.
Oh, when the boat was rocking.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, we had to get up to the.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Hubbard glacier.
So we did spend a bit of timeon the open ocean.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Not in the inside passage and because it is a tiny
boat, you could feel therocking, like we were in bed and
I was like I'm looking this wayand then I wouldn't move and
I'd be like and there's kara,and now I'm looking back this
way and I'm rolling over and I'mall up in kara's nape and yet
it was very safe and cozyabsolutely, I, I was, but I was
(02:34):
glad I had my dorky uh motionsickness patch just during this
point.
This is the only point where itwas even a thought in my brain.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't get seasick and I never felt seasick, so
maybe it wasn't even as bad aswe thought it was you felt the
rocking though, yeah definitelylike it was enough to wake you
up.
You were like rocking androlling.
It's just a little bit of aweird feeling when you don't
have your.
We probably didn't have our sealegs yet either, because do you
remember.
Okay, we'll get there, nevermind okay okay, no, I don't
remember we were like four orfive days, three, four or five
(03:00):
days into this, at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay.
So we were still getting oursea legs.
We had a day at sea and you andI chilled and played cards and
played Yahtzee and had a grandold time.
Yep, there was a party on theLido deck it's not called that
because there's only one deck onthis boat but it was fun.
They had great singers.
(03:23):
Great entertainment music.
It was a good time hung outwith uh, luke and mike.
Oh, michael, I know I shouldn'tcall mike um and next stop.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I believe it was the next morning we did have so.
So, as we alluded to before,there were certain excursions.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We missed our first one.
What do you Remember?
We were booked on an earlierone and we missed it by like 15
minutes because they say youhave to no let me tell this,
because you're not, you'refucking it up.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, we did decide I'm going to have a cracker.
We did so.
There are a ton of excursionsyou can do, excursions you can
do.
We have already discussed inprevious episodes of this
podcast that certain things weopted out of because we felt
like we could do them on our own.
In sitka, we went to thefortress of the bear and we did
the the raptor center he wantedto call it, like the big bird
(04:16):
preserve the raptor percentcenter and so we felt like we
could get to certain places anddo more in a shorter period of
time and have more freedom.
So we did that.
But there are certain thingsthat we knew we could not do
without an official excursion,one of which was kayaking at the
hubbard glacier.
Christmas really wanted tokayak at the hubbard glacier.
(04:37):
I could have taken it or leftit, because it's cold and wet
and freezing and fucking cold.
It was also gorgeous.
So this was when I was likewhen, when?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
are we ever going to be able to do this?
Again and it was like kayakingin a giant margarita, because
there was big chunks of floatingice everywhere.
Kara was afraid that one like achunk of ice was going to
capsize us, because you're inthis tiny two-person kayak.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes, so there was some confusion as to what time
we were supposed to show up inthe morning to get fitted and to
fit in our dry suit.
Dry suit, you got to have a drysuit.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And get out on the water.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, we showed up like an hour early.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yes, we did, we were confused.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We did show up an hour early.
We were signed up for this.
We showed up like an hour early.
The guy was finally like youcan go and come back, like leave
your dry suit here, come backin an hour, whatever.
So we come back, we go hover,we hovered glacier kayak.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's like floating in a, like you just said in a
giant margarita not a blendedone, but just one with ice cubes
ice and and it's absolutelygorgeous freezing cold misting
on you the entire.
But we also got to see what'sit called when a glacier like
loses a little bit.
You could hear it, you couldsee it.
Yeah, echoes.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh yeah, it's like really I forget it's not
sloughing, but it's somethinglike that Vamp while I look it
up.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, um, it is so beautiful and so blue and the
water is so clear.
I remembered it, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Calving.
Yes, it calves.
Yes, the Hubbard Glacier is.
Isn't that glacier?
The Hubbard Glacier is one ofthe only glaciers, or maybe the
only one in North America rightnow that's growing right?
Isn't that something thatsounds familiar?
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It sounds familiar, let's go with that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, we're going to go with that.
We do know that the HubbardGlacier is still growing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Whereas many are receding.
Yes, and this one calves allthe time, so we can only get so
close as a ship.
Well, even in our little babykayaks In a zodiac yeah, in one
of the like motorized zodiac,right?
Yep, it's called a zodiac Inthe water is going to take you
(06:45):
over because it's fucking coldand you do not want to end up in
that water.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No, even with a life vest.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
We had to stop in Ketchikan after the initial
briefing about this trip and wefound out we needed extra warm
beanies and we needed to buysome gloves because, the Thank
goodness we did.
Yeah, then mine got all wet.
It didn't really do me muchgood I did I would have.
If I was to go back in time, Iwould buy waterproof, like
(07:10):
rubber gloves is what I wouldbuy.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm just imagining you and like the, the rubber
thing, rubber like gloves thatyou use to do dishes.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Next, yeah, next time I take my dog for a walk here
in california, where it's 40degrees and it's not even that
cold, I'll send you a picture ofwhat I have to wear to be
comfortable.
It is so many layers, it'sembarrassing.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I believe that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Anyway, so we did do the, we did do the Hubbard
highly recommend the HubbardGlacier um kayaking it was so
fun.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Our, our Zodiac ran out of gas on the way back,
Cause they they take you out ina Z zodiac and then you have to
like, get into the kayak fromthe zodiac boat and throwing
glitter in the air for theseaborne expedition team.
They were so great, so great.
They also gave very cool dorkylectures that we attended on
indigenous people and birds ofthe area and nature and they're
(08:02):
all really smart and really wellinformed and they're, you know,
scientists and naturalists andboat capt.
And they're all really smartand really well informed and
they're, you know, scientistsand naturalists and boat
captains.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
They're super smart super informative, like the the
hiring the level of hiringprowess at seabourn is top notch
hiring prowess I like that termI would take.
I would take any of thosepeople to dinner and hats off
all these people.
Um, so we went on the kayak andyou loved it so much you were
(08:29):
like we got to do this againtomorrow because the next day
stopped with the.
Indian islands.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It was the Indian islands.
Yeah, yeah I.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I N, I A N.
Indian, indian, yeah.
So we went from the Hubbardglacier to the Indian islands,
and there were again Indian.
Yeah.
So we went from the HubbardGlacier to the Indian Islands
and there were again excursionsthat really weren't like you
can't catch a cab to do this, no.
So we wanted to do the kayakingagain.
The only option was like a 7 amtakeoff.
They had a couple spots at 7 am.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yes, we again fucked up the time.
Well, because we had gottenthere an hour early before were
like, oh, we'll just get therehalf an hour early which turned
out to be half an hour too late.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yes, in at this, so we were super confused.
Ended up at the like help deskin the main like lobby area.
Uh, guest, guest servicescrying to guest services because
we missed our kayaking trip andthat guy.
That guy had no time for ourbullshit so like listen here, I
(09:29):
think he was, I think it wasswiss or belgian and he just had
, like he was so neutral and hadno time for our bullshit.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He was like well, I'm sorry you missed your excursion
, I can get you on a zodiac.
Well, he wasn't sure.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We ended up getting a call, oh yeah, yeah.
Later we went back to the roomto drink our coffee and cry
about it, um, that we'd missedour opportunity to kayak in the
indian islands because we hadbeen told by one of the
excursion professionals that'swhere all the animals are.
We would really see we wouldreally see some animals, yeah,
up close.
And we were like, okay, we gotto do this.
(10:05):
We missed our boat.
We literally missed the boat.
We missed the boat, missed themotherfucking boat.
Then we got a call saying wecan get you on one of the Zodiac
tours.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, which we hemmed and hawed about a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Do we want to do this ?
Because we're like other peoplein a boat with other people.
They suck.
They were like 15 minutes, lido, deck go, yeah.
And we were like, okay, fine,we're going on the zodiac boat.
We didn't have to wear a drysuit, we got to wear whatever,
which is where my rain pantscame in really fucking handy.
And you were like I'm notfucking bringing rain pants I
should have brought you when Iwas wearing my rain pants,
because we did get misted onquite a bit, but we were
comfortable.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, it was a heavy mist, but I was I didn't feel
like soaked to the bone.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I would absolutely do a Zodiac again tour again.
Yeah, Because we did get to goout and see a lot of stuff where
they never would have let thekayaks go.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's a hundred percent true.
Yeah, we got, to cause we couldhave gotten.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, we were practically on the open ocean at
certain points.
Yes, we were out there by thelast little island before so
many so many birds, so manyseals, sea lions, otters, otters
.
All the things, so many things.
We saw so many amazing thingsand it was really fun.
And again, the tour guide wasso knowledgeable.
(11:23):
We learned a ton of stuff.
Yeah, highly recommend.
So that was day two.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That was our open ocean day.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yes, A couple more open ocean days.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I think we only had.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
we had one at the beginning and one in the middle,
which is to say that we wereonly stuck quote stuck on the
boat for limited days.
Yes, we were never stuck Inever felt like I was trapped a
hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I didn't either that in to be on.
In all honesty, the days thatwe well, the one day that we had
boat day I was like it's kindof nice just to like chill and
have a boat day you know I'mdown with chilling.
I did not always want to Ithink we both wore sweats that
(12:08):
entire day we did remember atthe aquarium in vancouver we
bought orca socks.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh yeah, and when we went out on the kayak we did
wear our orca socks we weretrying to manifest the orca.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We didn't see the orca, but we failed.
We failed, it's all right.
It's all right um, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But then we had another amazing dinner.
That was when you got in thefight with the waiter about
white chocolate, white chocolateum, because I think we can all
agree that white chocolate isnot chocolate yeah, we've got
some great pictures from both ofthose trips.
And then where did we go?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
pains, oh my god I took so many pictures on that
zodiac, holy shit we're notgoing to post all of them,
because we all know about kara'sphotography skills she, I mean
some of them are okay a brokenclock is right twice a day.
Oh wait, is icy point straightnext?
Uh-huh, oh shit, okay, oh shity'all here's the deal with icy
(13:06):
point straight.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Holy shit, fuck.
We were so.
Remember the back to a fewepisodes ago, when we were
talking about the seattle andthe ferris wheel, the big wheel
in the sky and my fear ofheights, and stuff.
Um.
So another way we were going totest this was was that the one
of?
Was that one of the longest ziplines in the world is at Icy
(13:27):
Point Strait?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And I do believe, if memory serves, that it is the
longest zip line in NorthAmerica.
That sounds right If we'rewrong.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Somebody tell us they will, and so we did an
excursion to go out there and dothat.
We wanted to see that.
So we I mean I don't know howreally to lead up to this we did
we did it, but it wasn't a zipline.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I've been on zip lines in Mexico, in Hawaii.
We actually have a zip linehere in Occidental, like through
the Redwoods.
This was so much bigger and somuch higher.
To get to the start of this zipline you take a ski lift
basically a gondola yeah,gondola, gondola, did we figure
it out?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I call it a gondola, I've heard it both ways I was
surprised at how weird you goton the gondola the, the incline
that we were okay also.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Here's why I got weird it was before before you
get on the gondola.
Right before you get on thegondola, they weigh you.
Nobody warned us that they weregoing to make us.
You have to get on a scale.
Yeah, we've also been on an allyou can eat and drink boat for
four days, so we're not at ourlike, we're not at our.
(14:40):
Shove off weight Pounds havearrived in in the time so, and
they have to weigh you, I guess,to make sure you're not going
to break the damn thing, I guess.
So right before we get into thegondola to go up a very steep
incline, I mean, it was almoststraight up.
It was almost 90 degrees.
(15:00):
I'm gonna call that.
It was more than if this is 45degrees you guys can math with
me and this is 90, it's got tobe like 60 something, 70 degrees
.
It was fucking tall andstraight and if you fall you're
gonna die.
And they weigh you to make itfeel like, oh, if you're, if
you're too fat, you're gonnabreak this goddamn thing and
(15:21):
it's gonna fall yes, it was notum, don't weigh me before I get
on a ride, get out of here, yeah.
So I wasn't.
I wasn't stoked about thegondola especially because it
kept stopping.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It stopped.
That's when you really freakedout.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And you're just dangling Um.
Are you looking at how?
How high steepness?
Okay, Kara's going to see.
If my math is correct, I saythere's about a three percent
chance that it's correct.
Okay, so the zip rider has a 25percent grade and that's the
zip line, the zip rider is whatwe rode yeah, god damn, that
(16:00):
thing was fun um, and it hasspeeds of 60 miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So fun it's 5,490 feet long and 1,330 feet above
sea level.
So cool, it was really fuckingcool.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So we get up to the top of this there.
That is that I will say that isyour peak videoing of all time
are you being facetious?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
because I thought that was the best I did on the
whole trip.
It is.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
That's what I'm saying that was peak, that was
the best I did.
You know, whole trip it is.
That's what I'm saying.
That was peak, that was thebest I did.
You know how some people you'relike oh, you peaked in high
school.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, like I peaked at icy point straight.
Yeah, yeah, icy straight point.
Whatever, it's, icy straightpoint.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I've heard it both ways.
I have a Christmas ornamentwith it written on it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I'll tell you in November when I put up my
Christmas tree.
Yeah, so we met a lady while wewere waiting for, while we were
waiting to go over.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
We had to be like escorted off the little gangway.
Yeah, before they release youinto the wild, they make sure
you're not going to just wanderoff.
So, they must have seen it all,and that's where we met Roz.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, roz was a woman that was traveling alone.
Yes, and we were inspired bythat.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
She was traveling alone.
She was in Australia.
She was in australia, she wasin her 70s and she was about to
ride the zipline and we werelike fuck yeah, roz yeah, and so
we went up to the top.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
We did the gondola.
Christmas braved the gondola,we went up to the top.
I braved the being weighed yeahyeah, let's say that yeah got
to the top, um decided to grab abeer, and they have a bar up
top.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Bar up top because we were like, well, if this is how
we go out, we're just going tolike go out together.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I was nervous.
And so you can see in one ofthe videos when you're trying to
talk about how tall the zipline is and how it's like as
tall as the Empire StateBuilding or something like that,
and I'm clearly trying todisassociate yeah, you can see
you disassociating and then wesee Roz come around the corner
and I'm like, hey, roz, yeah,I've never laughed so hard in my
life.
I, looking back now, I think Iwas trying to tune you out
(17:55):
because you were just sayingthings I didn't want to talk
about.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I feel like that's not the first or last time
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That's fair um, so we hooked up with Roz and then all
three of us went down and wehiked down to where you get on
the zip rider.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And it's not a zip Like I imagine, like growing up
we had a real low-rent zip line.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Her Grandpa, my Uncle Bob yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
We had a real low-rent zip line that he
attached from the top of a noteven the top, the midpoint of a
windmill down to a chicken coop.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I thought it was a fence or whatever, but it had a
mattress.
Yeah, Up against the fence orwhatever it was.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah you slam into the mattress to stop yourself.
Low rent.
This was the white trash isstrong in me.
Y'all the white trash is strongin me.
I love it, and this is onewhere you're not holding on.
No, you're sitting in like aseat.
You're sitting in like a seat,you're sitting in like a swing,
but there's four lines.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Four or six, four or more, I think there are six.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And so you go down everyone in their own lane.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
They release you all at the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah and you're each in your individual string, on
your individual line, and theycan kind of control how fast you
go.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
There's like ratchets , there's a setting and they can
control, like, how fast and howabrupt it is and stuff like
that, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Okay, I thought it was just like how, like people
who weigh more have more inertiaand they go faster.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I don't know, but I think they definitely let me go
fast, because I was out wayahead of you and I do weigh more
than you probably.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, but not that much.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
No, I was.
Yeah, I think they were fuckingwith me, but jokes on them
because I had a great time.
Oh, we both had a great time Ihad so much fun.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't know why, when we landed, I was crying.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I was too, but it wasn't great.
I was like I don't know why I'mso emotional.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like it was so therapeutic, it was such a like
release.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I was.
It had built up in my mindbecause it's not something I
would do here at home, knowingthat I was afraid of heights and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sure or was afraid of heights Was.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You see that you hear that past tense Eh, eh, eh, eh,
eh, eh.
So I was on the zipline whenyou hear me screaming and
laughing.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Oh, that is pure joy, it's joy, it's all joy, and it
was absolutely gorgeous, sobeautiful, amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I wanted to do it again.
And then it stops you and itlike jerks you when you stop, it
is an abrupt stop.
That was hilarious.
Then there's a bar at thebottom.
Of course we had to get victorydrinks.
So we went and got victorydrinks and then we're like well,
I said you probably did not sayI said we better get back to
the boat, yeah, Kara's veryconcerned.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
If they say we have to be back on the boat by 530,
kara's like we have to be backthere by five because that boat
is shoving off at 531.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You know, they give themselves a buffer Well now we
know, but I will never show uplate to the boat.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Oh, I hate being late , but I also don't like being
too early.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, in this case.
It was a good thing that wewere a little bit conservative
about that, because we were onthe wrong side of the island.
I thought we were right backthere by the boat.
We were so you know, caught upin the romance of the zipline we
were in the.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
is there such a thing as zipline afterglow?
I?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
line we were in the.
Is there such a thing as zipline afterglow?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I, there is now we were in it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We were in a zip line afterglow.
Yeah, just admit it, I wasbeing held in the warm embrace
of the zip line.
I mean, it was, it was and sowe leave the bar.
We're like we better get back tothe ship.
And we go outside and we'relike, where's the ship?
And then we learned that wehave to get on another gondola
this one was flatter to liketraverse the island to get back
over to where the boat is.
Um, it didn't take that long.
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We discovered there was like awhole obstacle outside obstacle
course obstacle course forhumans.
It was closed at the time but wewould.
I would go back to if I was, Ithink I would like to go back to
icy straight point at somepoint and do the zip line again
and I would like to do that.
Outdoor human obstacle course.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Well, and that is going to be all you're going to
do, because there is nothingelse there.
I don't think there was muchelse and you can't, you can't
drive there, no, you have toeither boat in or fly in.
Well, even even if you werejust live there, you have to.
You know, it's an island untoitself.
Yeah, it was pretty cool though.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So we got back to the ship.
We did make it back on time.
Cheers to us, cheers to us.
No brag, let's see.
Let me get through all theseVamp for a minute while I figure
out what we're doing, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I know I keep saying every time like, oh wait, is
that when we went to Hanes?
Oh, is that when we went toHanes.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think now it actually might be when we're
going to Hanes.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
We're finally in Hanes.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I fucking loved Hanes .
This was where we saw the guysitting on the ground painting
the parking lot lines.
Yeah, by hand.
Yes, by hand with a paintbrushand a bucket.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We thought that is very old school or it was some
kind of community service.
But he had a van that made itseem like that's just what he
did.
It was a painting van.
He was a painter it was.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It was just really interesting.
I think we posted that pictureon instagram too we will, we
will.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, we already did.
It's no, but I mean on our, onour other one, our one that I'm
now posting to, and that's wherewe found Alaska Rods.
Yes, and my dad's name is Rod,uncle Rod.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So we took pictures in front of Alaska Rods and
apparently the story is thatthere's this.
There was this guy, this oldminer named Rod yeah and he
slapped a bear that kept cominginto camp.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
He punched it in the face.
I thought he slapped it eitherway, did he?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I thought he slapped it, but maybe he punched it.
Whatever Anyway he accosted thebear.
It never bothered them again.
Well, that's where we got thepizza.
That's what you do with thebowl.
The artisan pizza?
Mm-hmm, I wish I had the nameof the pizza, but again there's
only one pizza place.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, there's only one.
We got great pizza.
We had.
Well, I had beer in a park.
Kara was scared to get bustedfor drinking in public.
Yeah, Because I imagine this isa lot what the Alaskan police
do they roll up to middle-agedladies in parks and be like
ma'am, are you drinking a beerwith your artisan pizza?
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What's?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
hilarious is that also this was in Haines, which
is where everyone kept offeringme weed.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yes, yes, things are loose.
Haines is really pretty Loose.
In needs Hanes is really pretty.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Beautiful, it was so tiny, you could walk the entire
town in like 10 minutes.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Hammer Museum.
We went to the Hammer Museumwhich, as you know, you've met
Hammer, if you're on the, ifyou've been around.
If Juno Juno, if Juno Juno, theMuseum of Hammers is exactly
what you think it is.
It is all about the tool.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
All the hammers in the world that you could imagine
, and some you never couldimagine.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Absolutely, and the docent there might be one of my
favorite people of all time.
He is such a character.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
He was so excited about all the hammers and when
we walked in there happened tobe no one else in there, so he
gave us a few minutes of aprivate tour.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Where he explains.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You can see on Instagram where we took a video
of him explaining this reallycool like hammer that he thinks
was actually a gift because ithad a secret compartment in the
face of the hammer.
Yeah, and it had what hedescribed, which is one of my
favorite descriptions of alltime craftsmanship out the yang,
yeah, craftsmanship out theyang he Craftsmanship out the
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yang.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He was.
So funny we loved him.
Tip of the hat to the HammerMuseum and it's docent.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, and also I got a limited run hat where they
maybe it'll be worth somethingone day, like the stamps that
have the plane upside down.
They did a run of hats from theHammer Museum but they spelled
Hanes wrong.
They spelled it like theunderwear, yeah.
So I have a hat from the HammerMuseum with a misspelling of
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the city, which is pretty funand pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So we went to the park.
Then we went to the brewerynext door, which is probably
Hanes Brewery, I'm guessing.
Oh, and then we saw this weirdrestaurant that was called um
the chill cat restaurant andbakery oh, that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It had hamburgers and thai food, which also served
thai food.
I took a picture of the menuwas bizarro town yeah, it had
like chinese food, thai food itwas all items, it was all over
the goddamn burgers uh went tothe hammer museum oh, port
chilcote brewery we were.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That was one of the things that you really wanted to
do.
We went.
I wish we had um spent moretime there, because they had
more cocktails that I wanted totry great.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would love to go back to haynes.
Oh, and then when we got backon the boat, that was the night
we had the fancy pants dinner.
Um, we might not have mentionedthis about seaborn, but the
it's in partnership with a localchef.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
We have around my neck of the woods fellow by the
name of thomas keller maybeyou've heard of him, maybe
you've heard of him and they hadthe grill by thomas keller so
we got one night where we got togo eat at this restaurant.
That was fabulous and beautiful.
I will admit, I was a littledrunk by that point of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I think I was too.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I was, I mean, I just remember being like this is
bread and butter is so fuckinggood yeah, I don't really
remember the meal I don't either, but I do remember the bread
and butter I'm sure it was good,but we had been going kind of
hard since haines in the morning.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And we went to the distillery.
Yeah, we were distilled down toour pure essence, I was pickled
by the time we got to dinnerGreat steak, nice yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It was a beautiful environment.
It was lovely.
We had a lovely little cornerbooth.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We did.
It was so romantic, highlyrecommend.
And then I think the next dayis juno, I think we get off the
boat.
The next day we got off theboat um in juno I believe we did
.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
What is this picture here?
Oh yeah, we took a picture inthe hallway of um.
If anyone from seabourn doeslisten to this or you want to
like answer a question for us,where in the world do you get
the giant?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
oh, those lunch bags.
Yeah, those are so cool.
And what goes in them?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, there was the last day.
And again we had to give up ourbags, which I was like.
These fucking things better getoff the boat.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Hopefully we'll find them.
Oh, and I was like is today theday I get my knife back?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, we still had a big question mark as to whether
or not Christmas was going toget her precious knife back.
So here we go, we're gettingoff the boat.
We get off the boat in Juneauand you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You don't walk off with your bags, you get off the
boat and once you're on the boat, you cannot get back on.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No, and that's right.
That was.
The only night I got annoyedwith you on the trip was the
night before we got off the boatbecause you wanted to go out
and party and dance and find ourfriends.
I've blocked this out.
So I was hammered and I knew Ineeded to go to bed.
Okay, and we had to.
We had to put tags on our bagsand put them outside our door,
yeah, before we turned in, likeby 10 PM or something, and then
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we just had our backpack, wejust had a backpack to get like
to have anything like importantthat we needed, like passports,
whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You know, passports, whatever, whatever you forgot
your key.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You didn't have a key and you hadn't dealt with your
bags and I wanted to go to bedbut I had to wait up because I
probably didn't.
I mean, the codependent in mewaited up is what happened?
Because I didn't want.
Why didn't I have a key?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You waited up is what happened sure, because I didn't
want.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why didn't I have a key?
You forgot it, I don't know youjust you fucked up well that
track.
So you went out partying we do.
You didn't have a key, youdidn't fucking deal with your
bags, and so then, at like thelast the 11th hour, while I'm
trying to sleep, she's in therebanging shit around by the the
11th hour is 12 hours beforewe're getting off the boat.
It was like 10 pm, it wasn'tthat.
It's 12 hours to go're gettingoff the boat.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It was like 10 pm, it wasn't that late.
It's 12 hours to go.
I needed to be asleep like waybefore that.
Well, and I will say, you setyour bags out that night and you
don't see them till you get offthe boat and hopefully they're
on the dock waiting for you oron the mainland waiting for you,
because also, once you departthe boat, you cannot go back on.
Yeah, Like the facial scan isdone.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, they have to doa face scan when you get back
on the and you're to make surethere's no interlopers.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You're down you're out, you're out of here, yeah,
so um they.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I think we can all tell by the tone of my voice and
the merriment that they didgive me my knife back.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Your handsome English robe, my handsome.
British head of security Handedit to you and said here you go,
ma'am.
Yep, I've never been so happyto see that knife, but it
sounded way sexier than what Ijust said it did.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm not even going to try.
It would be, it would.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It would sound Scottish if I tried to do it
right now.
I think here you go, mom, hereyou go, it's a disservice to him
and his cute accent.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, okay, sorry sir , sorry, sorry.
Nigel his name might have been,I think it might have been.
Well, it is now.
We walk off the boat.
Our bags are there Bags?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
are there, we don't have a ride to our B&B that
we're staying at, but you hadoverheard someone talking about
the name of the bed andbreakfast that we stayed at.
Yeah, and you secured us a ride.
Yes, but it took like 45minutes for the guy to get back.
He made it sound like it wasgoing to be really fast, but
this turned out to be travelmagic.
Yes, because as we waited forthe guy and wondered if we were
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stranded at the dock, I got aphone call from London, which I
thought was really weird.
So I cleared it, as one doeswhen they get a weird phone call
.
But then London calledChristmas too and I she was like
London calling and I was hereto in her infinite wisdom,
realized that if London wascalling me and then London was
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calling her, one of us shouldprobably and I was thinking is
it Nigel?
London called.
So thank God, christmasanswered her phone and it was
the.
It was escaping.
No, no, no, it was the guy thatwe thought we had annoyed so
badly with our kayak issues.
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The boat ship services guy.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, ship services guy that couldn't care less
about our issues.
The Belgian or maybe Swiss guy.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
He was calling to say , to ask if we had forgotten a
set of eyeglasses in our roomwhich we had, which.
I had and I am blind as a bat.
I'm legally blind.
I can't see shit without mycontacts.
So for me to forget my like, ifI lost a contact I would
fucking freak out.
I wouldn't have, I'd have tohave someone drive me, I think.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
If I luckily we weren't driving but also I was
really happy that.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I didn't.
That would have been a sadscene because we had to wait.
The gentleman from the boat wasable to run down to the
off-boarding area where I ran tomeet him and he handed off my
glasses to me that I hadforgotten.
That is travel magic rightthere.
So I got my glasses and wecontinued upon our way.
Mr Driver man did show up again.
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He did.
I think his name was Ben.
Maybe I know Ben winters intexas and then spends summers in
alaska yes, I believe his namewas ben and he was starting a
like taxi company in juno,because there was really no one
to do it.
There's not a lot of them, yeahso that was his plan and he was
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very cool.
He took us to the bed andbreakfast, we dropped our bags
off and we walked, and then hedropped us downtown and we
walked around everywhere.
That's where we discoveredDeckhand Dave's Tacos.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So fucking good.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
And we had.
Was it that day that we had thetour, the tour?
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Probably because then we went to Deckhand Dave's like
every single day.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, so we had a little bit of time to kill
before we went on this walkingfood tour, A walking food tour
which I recommend, anywhere youtravel in the world, anywhere
you go, if you can do a walkingfood tour, do that.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Juno was the only place in our little stops that
we were at that happened to haveone that we're aware of.
I looked, I looked, but maybethere, maybe I didn't look hard
enough, but juno is also youknow, it's a capital city.
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
It is a big deal, yeah so we did this, we had
signed up for this walking foodtour and, um, again, the link,
the, the address that they hademailed me, um, we were headed
that direction and we kind ofthought it was a little off the
beaten path, which seemed kindof strange, but was a little off
the beaten path, which seemedkind of strange.
But we walked out there.
We walked like half an hour toget to this location and we
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finally got there like 10minutes before it was supposed
to start and it was clearly notwhere we needed to be.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
There's not a soul in sight.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
You kept calling we couldn't get ahold of.
Finally you got ahold ofsomebody and they're like oh
yeah, the email has the wrongaddress in it.
You need to go over tobasically the pier where we got
off the boat, like where we werewhere we had been.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yes, Initially we just dropped our bags and had
been drop us back where it was.
But where Ben dropped us it wasyeah, yeah, we would have been
fine.
Yeah, so we had another.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
We ran, we basically ran, you got a hold of the
actual tour lady, yeah, and youwere like we're coming, wait for
us.
And so we ran through Juneauback to the port where we got
connected with this and this wassome travel magic too, because
we met up with the food tour.
She was like no, it's cool,we'll wait for you.
We were only like 10 minuteslate Cause we were like we ran
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we show up huffing.
We were sweating in Juneau,which was not warm.
No, and it was this beautifulyoung woman who was hosting the
tour, yeah, and three otherwomen, and that was it.
And she, the hosts, actuallysaid she was like is this is
everybody?
Oh my God, this is the firsttime I've ever had just ladies
on the walking tour, and onethat's small, so we felt very,
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very special.
Yeah, and it turned out to betwo sisters, oh, that's right.
And their mom and their mom,and their mom Was had just been
diagnosed with Parkinson's.
And they were doing a bucketlist trip together, yeah, so
that was very fortuitous.
Kind of like kismet typesituation.
I kind of forgot about that.
That was really cool.
We we follow them on instagram.
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I don't see them.
Maybe they don't post veryoften, but they were also very
like, kind of like politicallythe same way that we are, and
one of them was a therapistright the mom was a therapist,
just like bonnie was.
Yeah the mom was a therapist, aretired therapist, yeah, and one
of the daughters worked forplanned parenthood or something
like they both were in, likeadvocacy and male reproductive
rights.
Yeah, they were both very like,aligned with how we would like
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to see the world be.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, it was very cool.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So we went on this walking food tour 100% highly
recommend we all.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
We both bought way too much stuff that so much, so
we had shipped home yeah, um,yeah, so much seaweed themed
pickles they eat a lot ofseaweed, yeah salsas uh, spruce
tips, spruce tip.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I still have to put the spruce tip um syrup on ice
cream.
Oh, I bought a little jar of,or a little bottle of, the
spruce tip syrup that I'msupposed to put on ice cream.
Remember the guy the tour guidesaid her favorite spruce tip
ice cream they don't makeanymore in town but that if you
put the syrup on vanilla icecream it's like a close second.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I did use the spruce tip salt to salt rim a cocktail
not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Okay, I didn't know you bought that.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, so do that Also , she told us the legend of the
lovebirds oh, yeah, which, oh?
And that's where we saw ourfirst shame pole on that tour oh
, yeah, we had okay so in on thezodiac tour in the in the
indian islands is where welearned about what a shame pole
is, yes, and how there are onlylike three of them, still, still
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in existence about yeah,because if you, if you pay your
dues, do your due diligence,they will take down the shame
pole yeah, it's a nativetradition that you can they.
They'll erect a shame pole inhonor of some.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah basically, if you dishonor, yeah, basically if
you fuck up, if you like, sayyou're gonna pay someone and
then you don't, they it's, it isa totem pole.
But is a totem pole of shameand shows you basically being a
shitbag.
Yep, and there are only likebut once you pay your debt or
whatever it is, once you'verighted your wrong, they will
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take down the shame pole.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yep, yep.
And there are only a handful inexistence, like three, I think.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
And we got to see one of them in Juneau and it was
funny because we knew exactlywhat it was.
We were Juno and it was funnybecause we we knew exactly what
it was.
We were like, oh my god, ashame pole.
She was showing us this poleand kind of like this totem, and
telling us the story and we'relike, wait a minute, is this a
shame pole?
And it turned out it's theshame pole for the Exxon mobile
guy.
Fuck that guy.
Yeah, so that was prettyexciting and she.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I felt cool because she was like oh my god, you guys
know what a shame pole is.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
She was like nobody ever knows what a shame pole is.
And we're like, well, we're onthe seaborne adventure, we're
very learned women if Juno Junoyeah, we also trademark.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
We didn't see anywhere any swag, anything
anywhere.
That said, if Juno Juno, whichis a real missed opportunity.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm not a marketing genius, I mean, but hopefully,
by the time this airs, we mighthave like a t-shirt you can buy
that says if Juno, juno becauseI would wear that.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I would wear it too, and I will take credit for it.
If I see it anywhere else, Iwill.
That was us.
That was us.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Absolutely it.
If I see it anywhere else, Iwill.
That was us.
That was us, absolutely.
Yep, yeah.
So we went on the walking foodtour, had some amazing stuff,
learned about the lovebirds,learned about the lovebirds so
you got a little bit obsessedwith the lovebirds, yeah in uh
Tlingit lore, which is the oneof the indigenous tribes of
Alaska and the one that was inthe area that we were mainly in.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
there were basically two not clans, that's our people
Like.
I forget what they two tribestwo, two factions.
I don't know Two differentfamilies yeah, families and one
is a Eagle, bald Eagle, and oneis a Raven.
And I have a very soft spot forravens.
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I've had pet ravens who werenot.
They were injured, theycouldn't be out in the wild.
Kara sends me raven stuff allthe time and it's also very
smart evolutionarily, because ifyou were a raven you had to
marry someone in the from theEagle family and vice versa, and
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they both have their specificattributes, like one is loyalty,
one is intelligence, one is,you know, love, one is valor,
and they say that together theEagle and the Raven are a
perfect union and they call themthe lovebirds.
So there was really cool artand jewelry depicting one eagle
and one raven.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's how we heard about the kindred post, which is
the store that we recommended,I think, in the very first
episode of this, but oh, that'sright, our tour guide was
wearing cool lovebird earrings.
She had these cool like umresin like baccalate almost I
don't know what that means, butthey were cool and they were the
lovebirds.
It was one eagle and one ravenwhich, kind of like at a
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distance, look similar butthey're not.
They're different and they werevery cool airing Very cool, she
said I think I got these atKindred Post.
Yeah, go check it out.
So we went immediately over toKindred Post and shopped there
while we waited for DeckhandDave's to open so we could get
our fish tacos.
Yes, and they were fucking good.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So good yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We got a margarita and some fish tacos.
That first trip.
I think we went there threetimes in one day.
Yeah, like it wasn't just theone, because we were only in
Juneau for two days, but I thinkit was three times in one day.
We went there and got fishtacos.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I believe that, like I said before, I think about
those tacos once a week easily.
Yeah, I think about those fishtacos more than I should.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yep, I do as well.
It's not right, but it is whatit is.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
We also went to a Michelin star restaurant in
Juneau that is a crazy goodwood-fired pizza place that was
our last meal in Juneau.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That is a crazy good wood-fired pizza place.
That was our last meal inJuneau.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, cafe Lupo, something Lupo, something about
a wolf.
That sounds right, so good,really talented pizzaiolos, the
dough perfect.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I think we got like a tomato and we got a caprese
salad.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
We got a margarita pizza, because I judge a pizza
place by their authenticmargarita fair.
It was so good.
The crust was blistery withbeautiful bubbles we got to sit
at the bar but don't.
Yeah, we're total bar dwellers.
Anytime we go to a restaurant,we prefer to sit at the bar.
You're gonna get the bestservice.
Your server slash bartender haseyes on you constantly.
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It's so fun to talk to thelocals.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
That place was so good that was, and it was fun to
watch them like work back there.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You could kind of see the yeah, the bar overlooked
the kitchen and that sexy ass.
Uh, pizza oven, a brick.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I thought you were gonna say sexy ass pizza oven
guy, because you were like wehad a long discussion that night
about how he was managing theheat over there Because he had
like a beanie on and longsleeves and shit and we were
like what is this guy?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
He was not sweating.
No, he was, and he was standingin front of a brick pizza oven,
yeah, and he was doing thingswith the dough with his hands,
like doing things with the doughwith his hands.
Like I can't, I can't toss apizza.
Get your head out of the gutter.
I I'm thinking about the pizzamore than anything, honestly,
but I can't toss a dough likethat.
I wish I could the stretch.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Stop you, stop you, stop it we did have some really
good pizza on this trip.
I mean when I think alaska, Idon't think pizza, but I will.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I do now I think fish tacos first and foremost,
obviously, yeah, yeah, fishtacos.
The halibut, oh my god.
We had some of the best halibut, just for the halibut that's on
a t-shirt for sure, and we weresmart not to toot our own horn.
(43:38):
But we were smart, but a lot ofpeople got off the boat and
then flew home and we took acouple days in Juneau and
explored.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
So did Luke and Michael.
Yeah had a blast Yep.
We'd occasionally see a blueseaborne jacket.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
We would and we clocked it.
Yeah, we clocked it.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
We're like oh, there they are, I'm glad we did that
because I wanted to kind of like, to kind of like decompress
yeah, and that's where the sealegs thing comes in, because
after the week on the boat ohyeah, you felt it.
I really feel it.
I kept feeling like every oncein a while, my whole world was.
It lasted for like three days Ididn't have that everyone's
because of my my dorky motionsickness patch probably yeah,
(44:17):
probably because everyone Istarted to wonder like is
something wrong with me?
Because every once in a whileit felt like the world was kind
of like shifting underneath meand moving around.
Yeah, just out of nowhere huh.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Um, then we flew from Juneau back to Seattle, spent
one night in Seattle at, I thinkwe stayed at the Fairmont.
The Fairmont, um, gorgeous,great, had a lovely time.
Amazing.
Where did we eat that night, doyou remember?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
we went to thai food oh, we walked to thai food.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Oh yeah, my friend kainoa told us about a great
thai food place and he wasthrowing glitter and confetti in
the air for kainoa um yeah, wewalked up.
He's one of those that if youever need to know where to eat.
He's your man.
And yeah, oh, and the room theyput us in was so nice.
They gave us a beautiful roomwith two queen beds.
(45:12):
But I got to say we were bothkind of laying in bed after you
know, sharing a bed for 10 days.
We were both kind of like Imiss you over there, I miss you
over there too, you over theretoo.
Hello, hello, all right.
Well, hello into the void.
I guess we'll see in themorning.
The beds were literally three.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
We did crawl in the same bed at one point with our
wine and chocolate and yeah, andwatch all of our adventures
back, yeah, on instagram.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, so that was pretty fun, yeah and then cara
got in her plane and flew to theSacramento airport and I got in
my plane and flew to the SonomaCounty airport and, um, and we
and that's Alaska guys we saidgoodbye and headed out.
(45:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So and then called each otherwhen we got home safe.
My drive from the airport waslike less than 20 minutes.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Mine's only like 25.
Sacramento to Auburn is onlylike 25 minutes, yeah, so it
wasn't that bad, yeah, but yeah,that was.
I mean, all in all, we had someamazing, like amazing
coincidences, like travel magicand things that just line up the
travel magic is when you don'tplan for things and they just
happen.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And sometimes you think it's a bad thing that
happens, but then something elsehappens and you realize that it
was the best possible thingthat could happen.
Yeah, Like us waiting so longfor the ride to the that you got
your glasses, I got my glasses.
Yeah, cause that would havesucked.
Or that we just happened towalk into that one dive bar
where the lady was obsessed withDolly's house and told us all
about it.
Yep, we had a lot of travelmagic.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
So I guess the moral of the story is you never know.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
And leave room for travel magic.
Don't plan every hour of yourday.
Yeah, leave room for travelmagic to happen.
Stay loose, stay loose.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, room for travel , magic stay loose, stay loose,
stay loose.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, find a dive bar , ask that bartender.
But also, don't miss the boat.
Don't miss the boat, yeah,that's good advice.
And if you're gonna miss a boat, have it be just your kayak and
not your ship it's okay to missthe kayak, but don't miss the
boat, don't miss the ship, yeahyeah well, I guess on that note
we'll wrap up the highlights ofalaska.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Visit us on instagram at dmsh pod or see all the
highlights.
Email us at dmshpod, atgmailcom, or check the show
notes for any relevant links toplaces that you might want to
check out.
I do want to link to theKindred post because I think
they do have an online storethat you can check stuff out.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
They do.
I have looked at their onlinestore.
They have great stationery,they have great jewelry.
They have great little gifts.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
We're still waiting for them to come out with a
sticker that says if Juno Juno,which we might end up beating
them too, We'll see.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
You know what?
They haven't done it by now.
We gave them first dibs andthey didn't take that and run
with it.
So challenge accepted,challenge accepted.
Did people ask you I meant to,I meant to ask you about this
Did people ask you when you gothome, like how did you guys
travel together, do you guys?
(48:18):
Did you guys travel?
Speaker 1 (48:18):
People were worried about if we were going to get
along Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
If, like, we were going to get along okay, me too.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
If, like, we were going to have conflict along the
way or whatever I was notworried, even a little bit, and
you were annoyed with me oncewhen I wasn't in the room which
I also took with a grain of salt, because I know that I once I
hit the wall.
Yeah, I am a kind of an assholeoh, you were not an asshole to
me in my head I'm an asshole, Ilike I'm going to go say goodbye
last night with our friends.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I'm aware that people like to stay up later than 8 pm
, and I'm not one of them.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
So I was trying to be like, not always, but on
vacation, on vacation.
I will stay up later.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I'm an old grandma sometimes.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, I didn't get once.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I mean you're welcome , but I when we got back, I was
like oh, my God, we travel soeasy.
It was really easy.
Yeah, it was really easy and itwas um.
It was fun and exciting and umhighly recommend traveling with
someone you love and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, and travel with someone that, uh, you get along
with really well.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, I will say it's helpful that we both are early
risers.
Yeah, and we like to crawl intobed and put our earplugs in and
go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yes, like we also care about kind of the same
things, like good food, beingchill, flexibility, flexibility,
like I think our temperamentsare pretty similar.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yes, I don't like to be locked into a plan.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
No, but.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
But I also don't want to miss the boat.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Right, and if there's something we you know wanted to
do, like zipline, we're goingto be locked into zipline or
we're going to be locked intoRaptor Center.
I think that was key that weagreed on what we wanted to be
locked into ahead of time andthat we were both pretty
flexible.
I think we each only pickedlike two things and there was
overlap within those two things.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
So that's it for the Alaska trip.
All right, call at us.
Let us know what you think ofhow we're doing, if we sounds
okay, you know, like all thatnonsense.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Are you guys amazed at how much my dog can sleep?
We've been, we've recordedmultiple episodes today.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
We're batching because I'm in Santa Rosa
visiting and, uh, my dog hasbeen asleep the entire time.
My butt's asleep, my legs areasleep.
It's time to start movingaround all right, love you guys.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Bye.
Welcome back to Dead Mom's Scavenger Hunt.
I'm Christmas, I'm Cara, andhere we are.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is Birdie.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are still on the Alaskan tour.
Yep, so we're recapping all ofthis.
I mean, and obviously I thinkit doesn't even need to be said,
if you don't want to hear this,like, skip these episodes.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely.
This is as much for us to justenjoy reliving.
Yes, but I am going to put allbecause we did a great job of
photojournalism, putting it on,if we do say so ourselves, if we
do say so, except when Kara wastaking pictures, because she
sucks absolute donkey dick.
True, but I am going to putthese on our DMSH, instagram, in
(00:38):
Instagram highlights which youcan find at DMSH pod on
Instagram.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, so when we last left off.
We left Sitka.
We got back on the boat, but Ijust want to circle back because
I did just call the P-Bar.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh, the Pioneer Bar, the P-Bar.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, if you're cool people up there called the P-Bar
.
Yeah that's how she answeredthe phone P-Bar.
So I called to remind us whatthe name of the signature shot
was.
It's been confirmed it is wetpussy it is a wet pussy um.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We saw her make 27 of them like at once and we drank
one.
One was enough for me.
Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It kind of tasted like a cosmopolitan I think I
had like some guava and some gin, and no, that was cranberry,
there's no that wasnopolitan.
I think it had like some guavaand some gin and some vodka no,
that was cranberry.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That wasn't tropical, it was like ocean spray
cranberry.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
and regret I mean if you go there, you kind of have
to do it, though.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh, it was fun.
I'd do it again.
Yeah, anytime I'm there.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So I just learned too they have a signature drink in
addition to a signature shot,Because their their signature
drink is a turntable.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
If you have two turntables and a microphone, is
there a?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
microphone.
Okay, Anyway, we digress Onthis episode, on this leg of the
trip, on this at this juncturein our great adventure.
We have left Sitka and we areon the open seas.
I think this is where we wentfrom, like kind of the inland
area.
Oh, when the boat was rocking.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, we had to get up to the.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Hubbard glacier.
So we did spend a bit of timeon the open ocean.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Not in the inside passage and because it is a tiny
boat, you could feel therocking, like we were in bed and
I was like I'm looking this wayand then I wouldn't move and
I'd be like and there's kara,and now I'm looking back this
way and I'm rolling over and I'mall up in kara's nape and yet
it was very safe and cozyabsolutely, I, I was, but I was
(02:34):
glad I had my dorky uh motionsickness patch just during this
point.
This is the only point where itwas even a thought in my brain.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't get seasick and I never felt seasick, so
maybe it wasn't even as bad aswe thought it was you felt the
rocking though, yeah definitelylike it was enough to wake you
up.
You were like rocking androlling.
It's just a little bit of aweird feeling when you don't
have your.
We probably didn't have our sealegs yet either, because do you
remember.
Okay, we'll get there, nevermind okay okay, no, I don't
remember we were like four orfive days, three, four or five
(03:00):
days into this, at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay.
So we were still getting oursea legs.
We had a day at sea and you andI chilled and played cards and
played Yahtzee and had a grandold time.
Yep, there was a party on theLido deck it's not called that
because there's only one deck onthis boat but it was fun.
They had great singers.
(03:23):
Great entertainment music.
It was a good time hung outwith uh, luke and mike.
Oh, michael, I know I shouldn'tcall mike um and next stop.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I believe it was the next morning we did have so.
So, as we alluded to before,there were certain excursions.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We missed our first one.
What do you Remember?
We were booked on an earlierone and we missed it by like 15
minutes because they say youhave to no let me tell this,
because you're not, you'refucking it up.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, we did decide I'm going to have a cracker.
We did so.
There are a ton of excursionsyou can do, excursions you can
do.
We have already discussed inprevious episodes of this
podcast that certain things weopted out of because we felt
like we could do them on our own.
In sitka, we went to thefortress of the bear and we did
the the raptor center he wantedto call it, like the big bird
(04:16):
preserve the raptor percentcenter and so we felt like we
could get to certain places anddo more in a shorter period of
time and have more freedom.
So we did that.
But there are certain thingsthat we knew we could not do
without an official excursion,one of which was kayaking at the
hubbard glacier.
Christmas really wanted tokayak at the hubbard glacier.
(04:37):
I could have taken it or leftit, because it's cold and wet
and freezing and fucking cold.
It was also gorgeous.
So this was when I was likewhen, when?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
are we ever going to be able to do this?
Again and it was like kayakingin a giant margarita, because
there was big chunks of floatingice everywhere.
Kara was afraid that one like achunk of ice was going to
capsize us, because you're inthis tiny two-person kayak.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes, so there was some confusion as to what time
we were supposed to show up inthe morning to get fitted and to
fit in our dry suit.
Dry suit, you got to have a drysuit.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And get out on the water.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, we showed up like an hour early.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yes, we did, we were confused.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We did show up an hour early.
We were signed up for this.
We showed up like an hour early.
The guy was finally like youcan go and come back, like leave
your dry suit here, come backin an hour, whatever.
So we come back, we go hover,we hovered glacier kayak.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's like floating in a, like you just said in a
giant margarita not a blendedone, but just one with ice cubes
ice and and it's absolutelygorgeous freezing cold misting
on you the entire.
But we also got to see what'sit called when a glacier like
loses a little bit.
You could hear it, you couldsee it.
Yeah, echoes.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh yeah, it's like really I forget it's not
sloughing, but it's somethinglike that Vamp while I look it
up.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, um, it is so beautiful and so blue and the
water is so clear.
I remembered it, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Calving.
Yes, it calves.
Yes, the Hubbard Glacier is.
Isn't that glacier?
The Hubbard Glacier is one ofthe only glaciers, or maybe the
only one in North America rightnow that's growing right?
Isn't that something thatsounds familiar?
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It sounds familiar, let's go with that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, we're going to go with that.
We do know that the HubbardGlacier is still growing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Whereas many are receding.
Yes, and this one calves allthe time, so we can only get so
close as a ship.
Well, even in our little babykayaks In a zodiac yeah, in one
of the like motorized zodiac,right?
Yep, it's called a zodiac Inthe water is going to take you
(06:45):
over because it's fucking coldand you do not want to end up in
that water.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No, even with a life vest.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
We had to stop in Ketchikan after the initial
briefing about this trip and wefound out we needed extra warm
beanies and we needed to buysome gloves because, the Thank
goodness we did.
Yeah, then mine got all wet.
It didn't really do me muchgood I did I would have.
If I was to go back in time, Iwould buy waterproof, like
(07:10):
rubber gloves is what I wouldbuy.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm just imagining you and like the, the rubber
thing, rubber like gloves thatyou use to do dishes.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Next, yeah, next time I take my dog for a walk here
in california, where it's 40degrees and it's not even that
cold, I'll send you a picture ofwhat I have to wear to be
comfortable.
It is so many layers, it'sembarrassing.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I believe that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Anyway, so we did do the, we did do the Hubbard
highly recommend the HubbardGlacier um kayaking it was so
fun.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Our, our Zodiac ran out of gas on the way back,
Cause they they take you out ina Z zodiac and then you have to
like, get into the kayak fromthe zodiac boat and throwing
glitter in the air for theseaborne expedition team.
They were so great, so great.
They also gave very cool dorkylectures that we attended on
indigenous people and birds ofthe area and nature and they're
(08:02):
all really smart and really wellinformed and they're, you know,
scientists and naturalists andboat capt.
And they're all really smartand really well informed and
they're, you know, scientistsand naturalists and boat
captains.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
They're super smart super informative, like the the
hiring the level of hiringprowess at seabourn is top notch
hiring prowess I like that termI would take.
I would take any of thosepeople to dinner and hats off
all these people.
Um, so we went on the kayak andyou loved it so much you were
(08:29):
like we got to do this againtomorrow because the next day
stopped with the.
Indian islands.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It was the Indian islands.
Yeah, yeah I.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I N, I A N.
Indian, indian, yeah.
So we went from the Hubbardglacier to the Indian islands,
and there were again Indian.
Yeah.
So we went from the HubbardGlacier to the Indian Islands
and there were again excursionsthat really weren't like you
can't catch a cab to do this, no.
So we wanted to do the kayakingagain.
The only option was like a 7 amtakeoff.
They had a couple spots at 7 am.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yes, we again fucked up the time.
Well, because we had gottenthere an hour early before were
like, oh, we'll just get therehalf an hour early which turned
out to be half an hour too late.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yes, in at this, so we were super confused.
Ended up at the like help deskin the main like lobby area.
Uh, guest, guest servicescrying to guest services because
we missed our kayaking trip andthat guy.
That guy had no time for ourbullshit so like listen here, I
(09:29):
think he was, I think it wasswiss or belgian and he just had
, like he was so neutral and hadno time for our bullshit.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He was like well, I'm sorry you missed your excursion
, I can get you on a zodiac.
Well, he wasn't sure.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We ended up getting a call, oh yeah, yeah.
Later we went back to the roomto drink our coffee and cry
about it, um, that we'd missedour opportunity to kayak in the
indian islands because we hadbeen told by one of the
excursion professionals that'swhere all the animals are.
We would really see we wouldreally see some animals, yeah,
up close.
And we were like, okay, we gotto do this.
(10:05):
We missed our boat.
We literally missed the boat.
We missed the boat, missed themotherfucking boat.
Then we got a call saying wecan get you on one of the Zodiac
tours.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, which we hemmed and hawed about a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Do we want to do this ?
Because we're like other peoplein a boat with other people.
They suck.
They were like 15 minutes, lido, deck go, yeah.
And we were like, okay, fine,we're going on the zodiac boat.
We didn't have to wear a drysuit, we got to wear whatever,
which is where my rain pantscame in really fucking handy.
And you were like I'm notfucking bringing rain pants I
should have brought you when Iwas wearing my rain pants,
because we did get misted onquite a bit, but we were
comfortable.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, it was a heavy mist, but I was I didn't feel
like soaked to the bone.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I would absolutely do a Zodiac again tour again.
Yeah, Because we did get to goout and see a lot of stuff where
they never would have let thekayaks go.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's a hundred percent true.
Yeah, we got, to cause we couldhave gotten.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, we were practically on the open ocean at
certain points.
Yes, we were out there by thelast little island before so
many so many birds, so manyseals, sea lions, otters, otters
.
All the things, so many things.
We saw so many amazing thingsand it was really fun.
And again, the tour guide wasso knowledgeable.
(11:23):
We learned a ton of stuff.
Yeah, highly recommend.
So that was day two.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That was our open ocean day.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yes, A couple more open ocean days.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I think we only had.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
we had one at the beginning and one in the middle,
which is to say that we wereonly stuck quote stuck on the
boat for limited days.
Yes, we were never stuck Inever felt like I was trapped a
hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I didn't either that in to be on.
In all honesty, the days thatwe well, the one day that we had
boat day I was like it's kindof nice just to like chill and
have a boat day you know I'mdown with chilling.
I did not always want to Ithink we both wore sweats that
(12:08):
entire day we did remember atthe aquarium in vancouver we
bought orca socks.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh yeah, and when we went out on the kayak we did
wear our orca socks we weretrying to manifest the orca.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We didn't see the orca, but we failed.
We failed, it's all right.
It's all right um, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But then we had another amazing dinner.
That was when you got in thefight with the waiter about
white chocolate, white chocolateum, because I think we can all
agree that white chocolate isnot chocolate yeah, we've got
some great pictures from both ofthose trips.
And then where did we go?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
pains, oh my god I took so many pictures on that
zodiac, holy shit we're notgoing to post all of them,
because we all know about kara'sphotography skills she, I mean
some of them are okay a brokenclock is right twice a day.
Oh wait, is icy point straightnext?
Uh-huh, oh shit, okay, oh shity'all here's the deal with icy
(13:06):
point straight.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Holy shit, fuck.
We were so.
Remember the back to a fewepisodes ago, when we were
talking about the seattle andthe ferris wheel, the big wheel
in the sky and my fear ofheights, and stuff.
Um.
So another way we were going totest this was was that the one
of?
Was that one of the longest ziplines in the world is at Icy
(13:27):
Point Strait?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And I do believe, if memory serves, that it is the
longest zip line in NorthAmerica.
That sounds right If we'rewrong.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Somebody tell us they will, and so we did an
excursion to go out there and dothat.
We wanted to see that.
So we I mean I don't know howreally to lead up to this we did
we did it, but it wasn't a zipline.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I've been on zip lines in Mexico, in Hawaii.
We actually have a zip linehere in Occidental, like through
the Redwoods.
This was so much bigger and somuch higher.
To get to the start of this zipline you take a ski lift
basically a gondola yeah,gondola, gondola, did we figure
it out?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I call it a gondola, I've heard it both ways I was
surprised at how weird you goton the gondola the, the incline
that we were okay also.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Here's why I got weird it was before before you
get on the gondola.
Right before you get on thegondola, they weigh you.
Nobody warned us that they weregoing to make us.
You have to get on a scale.
Yeah, we've also been on an allyou can eat and drink boat for
four days, so we're not at ourlike, we're not at our.
(14:40):
Shove off weight Pounds havearrived in in the time so, and
they have to weigh you, I guess,to make sure you're not going
to break the damn thing, I guess.
So right before we get into thegondola to go up a very steep
incline, I mean, it was almoststraight up.
It was almost 90 degrees.
(15:00):
I'm gonna call that.
It was more than if this is 45degrees you guys can math with
me and this is 90, it's got tobe like 60 something, 70 degrees
.
It was fucking tall andstraight and if you fall you're
gonna die.
And they weigh you to make itfeel like, oh, if you're, if
you're too fat, you're gonnabreak this goddamn thing and
(15:21):
it's gonna fall yes, it was notum, don't weigh me before I get
on a ride, get out of here, yeah.
So I wasn't.
I wasn't stoked about thegondola especially because it
kept stopping.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It stopped.
That's when you really freakedout.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And you're just dangling Um.
Are you looking at how?
How high steepness?
Okay, Kara's going to see.
If my math is correct, I saythere's about a three percent
chance that it's correct.
Okay, so the zip rider has a 25percent grade and that's the
zip line, the zip rider is whatwe rode yeah, god damn, that
(16:00):
thing was fun um, and it hasspeeds of 60 miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So fun it's 5,490 feet long and 1,330 feet above
sea level.
So cool, it was really fuckingcool.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So we get up to the top of this there.
That is that I will say that isyour peak videoing of all time
are you being facetious?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
because I thought that was the best I did on the
whole trip.
It is.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
That's what I'm saying that was peak, that was
the best I did.
You know, whole trip it is.
That's what I'm saying.
That was peak, that was thebest I did.
You know how some people you'relike oh, you peaked in high
school.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, like I peaked at icy point straight.
Yeah, yeah, icy straight point.
Whatever, it's, icy straightpoint.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I've heard it both ways.
I have a Christmas ornamentwith it written on it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I'll tell you in November when I put up my
Christmas tree.
Yeah, so we met a lady while wewere waiting for, while we were
waiting to go over.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
We had to be like escorted off the little gangway.
Yeah, before they release youinto the wild, they make sure
you're not going to just wanderoff.
So, they must have seen it all,and that's where we met Roz.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, roz was a woman that was traveling alone.
Yes, and we were inspired bythat.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
She was traveling alone.
She was in Australia.
She was in australia, she wasin her 70s and she was about to
ride the zipline and we werelike fuck yeah, roz yeah, and so
we went up to the top.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
We did the gondola.
Christmas braved the gondola,we went up to the top.
I braved the being weighed yeahyeah, let's say that yeah got
to the top, um decided to grab abeer, and they have a bar up
top.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Bar up top because we were like, well, if this is how
we go out, we're just going tolike go out together.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I was nervous.
And so you can see in one ofthe videos when you're trying to
talk about how tall the zipline is and how it's like as
tall as the Empire StateBuilding or something like that,
and I'm clearly trying todisassociate yeah, you can see
you disassociating and then wesee Roz come around the corner
and I'm like, hey, roz, yeah,I've never laughed so hard in my
life.
I, looking back now, I think Iwas trying to tune you out
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because you were just sayingthings I didn't want to talk
about.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I feel like that's not the first or last time
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That's fair um, so we hooked up with Roz and then all
three of us went down and wehiked down to where you get on
the zip rider.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And it's not a zip Like I imagine, like growing up
we had a real low-rent zip line.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Her Grandpa, my Uncle Bob yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
We had a real low-rent zip line that he
attached from the top of a noteven the top, the midpoint of a
windmill down to a chicken coop.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I thought it was a fence or whatever, but it had a
mattress.
Yeah, Up against the fence orwhatever it was.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah you slam into the mattress to stop yourself.
Low rent.
This was the white trash isstrong in me.
Y'all the white trash is strongin me.
I love it, and this is onewhere you're not holding on.
No, you're sitting in like aseat.
You're sitting in like a seat,you're sitting in like a swing,
but there's four lines.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Four or six, four or more, I think there are six.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And so you go down everyone in their own lane.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
They release you all at the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah and you're each in your individual string, on
your individual line, and theycan kind of control how fast you
go.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
There's like ratchets , there's a setting and they can
control, like, how fast and howabrupt it is and stuff like
that, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Okay, I thought it was just like how, like people
who weigh more have more inertiaand they go faster.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I don't know, but I think they definitely let me go
fast, because I was out wayahead of you and I do weigh more
than you probably.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, but not that much.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
No, I was.
Yeah, I think they were fuckingwith me, but jokes on them
because I had a great time.
Oh, we both had a great time Ihad so much fun.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't know why, when we landed, I was crying.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I was too, but it wasn't great.
I was like I don't know why I'mso emotional.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like it was so therapeutic, it was such a like
release.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I was.
It had built up in my mindbecause it's not something I
would do here at home, knowingthat I was afraid of heights and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sure or was afraid of heights Was.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You see that you hear that past tense Eh, eh, eh, eh,
eh, eh.
So I was on the zipline whenyou hear me screaming and
laughing.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Oh, that is pure joy, it's joy, it's all joy, and it
was absolutely gorgeous, sobeautiful, amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I wanted to do it again.
And then it stops you and itlike jerks you when you stop, it
is an abrupt stop.
That was hilarious.
Then there's a bar at thebottom.
Of course we had to get victorydrinks.
So we went and got victorydrinks and then we're like well,
I said you probably did not sayI said we better get back to
the boat, yeah, Kara's veryconcerned.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
If they say we have to be back on the boat by 530,
kara's like we have to be backthere by five because that boat
is shoving off at 531.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You know, they give themselves a buffer Well now we
know, but I will never show uplate to the boat.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Oh, I hate being late , but I also don't like being
too early.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, in this case.
It was a good thing that wewere a little bit conservative
about that, because we were onthe wrong side of the island.
I thought we were right backthere by the boat.
We were so you know, caught upin the romance of the zipline we
were in the.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
is there such a thing as zipline afterglow?
I?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
line we were in the.
Is there such a thing as zipline afterglow?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I, there is now we were in it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We were in a zip line afterglow.
Yeah, just admit it, I wasbeing held in the warm embrace
of the zip line.
I mean, it was, it was and sowe leave the bar.
We're like we better get back tothe ship.
And we go outside and we'relike, where's the ship?
And then we learned that wehave to get on another gondola
this one was flatter to liketraverse the island to get back
over to where the boat is.
Um, it didn't take that long.
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We discovered there was like awhole obstacle outside obstacle
course obstacle course forhumans.
It was closed at the time but wewould.
I would go back to if I was, Ithink I would like to go back to
icy straight point at somepoint and do the zip line again
and I would like to do that.
Outdoor human obstacle course.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Well, and that is going to be all you're going to
do, because there is nothingelse there.
I don't think there was muchelse and you can't, you can't
drive there, no, you have toeither boat in or fly in.
Well, even even if you werejust live there, you have to.
You know, it's an island untoitself.
Yeah, it was pretty cool though.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So we got back to the ship.
We did make it back on time.
Cheers to us, cheers to us.
No brag, let's see.
Let me get through all theseVamp for a minute while I figure
out what we're doing, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I know I keep saying every time like, oh wait, is
that when we went to Hanes?
Oh, is that when we went toHanes.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think now it actually might be when we're
going to Hanes.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
We're finally in Hanes.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I fucking loved Hanes .
This was where we saw the guysitting on the ground painting
the parking lot lines.
Yeah, by hand.
Yes, by hand with a paintbrushand a bucket.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We thought that is very old school or it was some
kind of community service.
But he had a van that made itseem like that's just what he
did.
It was a painting van.
He was a painter it was.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It was just really interesting.
I think we posted that pictureon instagram too we will, we
will.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, we already did.
It's no, but I mean on our, onour other one, our one that I'm
now posting to, and that's wherewe found Alaska Rods.
Yes, and my dad's name is Rod,uncle Rod.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So we took pictures in front of Alaska Rods and
apparently the story is thatthere's this.
There was this guy, this oldminer named Rod yeah and he
slapped a bear that kept cominginto camp.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
He punched it in the face.
I thought he slapped it eitherway, did he?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I thought he slapped it, but maybe he punched it.
Whatever Anyway he accosted thebear.
It never bothered them again.
Well, that's where we got thepizza.
That's what you do with thebowl.
The artisan pizza?
Mm-hmm, I wish I had the nameof the pizza, but again there's
only one pizza place.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, there's only one.
We got great pizza.
We had.
Well, I had beer in a park.
Kara was scared to get bustedfor drinking in public.
Yeah, Because I imagine this isa lot what the Alaskan police
do they roll up to middle-agedladies in parks and be like
ma'am, are you drinking a beerwith your artisan pizza?
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What's?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
hilarious is that also this was in Haines, which
is where everyone kept offeringme weed.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yes, yes, things are loose.
Haines is really pretty Loose.
In needs Hanes is really pretty.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Beautiful, it was so tiny, you could walk the entire
town in like 10 minutes.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Hammer Museum.
We went to the Hammer Museumwhich, as you know, you've met
Hammer, if you're on the, ifyou've been around.
If Juno Juno, if Juno Juno, theMuseum of Hammers is exactly
what you think it is.
It is all about the tool.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
All the hammers in the world that you could imagine
, and some you never couldimagine.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Absolutely, and the docent there might be one of my
favorite people of all time.
He is such a character.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
He was so excited about all the hammers and when
we walked in there happened tobe no one else in there, so he
gave us a few minutes of aprivate tour.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Where he explains.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You can see on Instagram where we took a video
of him explaining this reallycool like hammer that he thinks
was actually a gift because ithad a secret compartment in the
face of the hammer.
Yeah, and it had what hedescribed, which is one of my
favorite descriptions of alltime craftsmanship out the yang,
yeah, craftsmanship out theyang he Craftsmanship out the
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yang.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He was.
So funny we loved him.
Tip of the hat to the HammerMuseum and it's docent.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, and also I got a limited run hat where they
maybe it'll be worth somethingone day, like the stamps that
have the plane upside down.
They did a run of hats from theHammer Museum but they spelled
Hanes wrong.
They spelled it like theunderwear, yeah.
So I have a hat from the HammerMuseum with a misspelling of
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the city, which is pretty funand pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So we went to the park.
Then we went to the brewerynext door, which is probably
Hanes Brewery, I'm guessing.
Oh, and then we saw this weirdrestaurant that was called um
the chill cat restaurant andbakery oh, that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It had hamburgers and thai food, which also served
thai food.
I took a picture of the menuwas bizarro town yeah, it had
like chinese food, thai food itwas all items, it was all over
the goddamn burgers uh went tothe hammer museum oh, port
chilcote brewery we were.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That was one of the things that you really wanted to
do.
We went.
I wish we had um spent moretime there, because they had
more cocktails that I wanted totry great.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would love to go back to haynes.
Oh, and then when we got backon the boat, that was the night
we had the fancy pants dinner.
Um, we might not have mentionedthis about seaborn, but the
it's in partnership with a localchef.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
We have around my neck of the woods fellow by the
name of thomas keller maybeyou've heard of him, maybe
you've heard of him and they hadthe grill by thomas keller so
we got one night where we got togo eat at this restaurant.
That was fabulous and beautiful.
I will admit, I was a littledrunk by that point of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I think I was too.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I was, I mean, I just remember being like this is
bread and butter is so fuckinggood yeah, I don't really
remember the meal I don't either, but I do remember the bread
and butter I'm sure it was good,but we had been going kind of
hard since haines in the morning.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And we went to the distillery.
Yeah, we were distilled down toour pure essence, I was pickled
by the time we got to dinnerGreat steak, nice yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It was a beautiful environment.
It was lovely.
We had a lovely little cornerbooth.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We did.
It was so romantic, highlyrecommend.
And then I think the next dayis juno, I think we get off the
boat.
The next day we got off theboat um in juno I believe we did
.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
What is this picture here?
Oh yeah, we took a picture inthe hallway of um.
If anyone from seabourn doeslisten to this or you want to
like answer a question for us,where in the world do you get
the giant?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
oh, those lunch bags.
Yeah, those are so cool.
And what goes in them?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, there was the last day.
And again we had to give up ourbags, which I was like.
These fucking things better getoff the boat.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Hopefully we'll find them.
Oh, and I was like is today theday I get my knife back?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, we still had a big question mark as to whether
or not Christmas was going toget her precious knife back.
So here we go, we're gettingoff the boat.
We get off the boat in Juneauand you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You don't walk off with your bags, you get off the
boat and once you're on the boat, you cannot get back on.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No, and that's right.
That was.
The only night I got annoyedwith you on the trip was the
night before we got off the boatbecause you wanted to go out
and party and dance and find ourfriends.
I've blocked this out.
So I was hammered and I knew Ineeded to go to bed.
Okay, and we had to.
We had to put tags on our bagsand put them outside our door,
yeah, before we turned in, likeby 10 PM or something, and then
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we just had our backpack, wejust had a backpack to get like
to have anything like importantthat we needed, like passports,
whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You know, passports, whatever, whatever you forgot
your key.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You didn't have a key and you hadn't dealt with your
bags and I wanted to go to bedbut I had to wait up because I
probably didn't.
I mean, the codependent in mewaited up is what happened?
Because I didn't want.
Why didn't I have a key?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You waited up is what happened sure, because I didn't
want.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why didn't I have a key?
You forgot it, I don't know youjust you fucked up well that
track.
So you went out partying we do.
You didn't have a key, youdidn't fucking deal with your
bags, and so then, at like thelast the 11th hour, while I'm
trying to sleep, she's in therebanging shit around by the the
11th hour is 12 hours beforewe're getting off the boat.
It was like 10 pm, it wasn'tthat.
It's 12 hours to go're gettingoff the boat.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It was like 10 pm, it wasn't that late.
It's 12 hours to go.
I needed to be asleep like waybefore that.
Well, and I will say, you setyour bags out that night and you
don't see them till you get offthe boat and hopefully they're
on the dock waiting for you oron the mainland waiting for you,
because also, once you departthe boat, you cannot go back on.
Yeah, Like the facial scan isdone.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, they have to doa face scan when you get back
on the and you're to make surethere's no interlopers.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You're down you're out, you're out of here, yeah,
so um they.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I think we can all tell by the tone of my voice and
the merriment that they didgive me my knife back.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Your handsome English robe, my handsome.
British head of security Handedit to you and said here you go,
ma'am.
Yep, I've never been so happyto see that knife, but it
sounded way sexier than what Ijust said it did.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm not even going to try.
It would be, it would.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It would sound Scottish if I tried to do it
right now.
I think here you go, mom, hereyou go, it's a disservice to him
and his cute accent.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, okay, sorry sir , sorry, sorry.
Nigel his name might have been,I think it might have been.
Well, it is now.
We walk off the boat.
Our bags are there Bags?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
are there, we don't have a ride to our B&B that
we're staying at, but you hadoverheard someone talking about
the name of the bed andbreakfast that we stayed at.
Yeah, and you secured us a ride.
Yes, but it took like 45minutes for the guy to get back.
He made it sound like it wasgoing to be really fast, but
this turned out to be travelmagic.
Yes, because as we waited forthe guy and wondered if we were
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stranded at the dock, I got aphone call from London, which I
thought was really weird.
So I cleared it, as one doeswhen they get a weird phone call
.
But then London calledChristmas too and I she was like
London calling and I was hereto in her infinite wisdom,
realized that if London wascalling me and then London was
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calling her, one of us shouldprobably and I was thinking is
it Nigel?
London called.
So thank God, christmasanswered her phone and it was
the.
It was escaping.
No, no, no, it was the guy thatwe thought we had annoyed so
badly with our kayak issues.
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The boat ship services guy.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, ship services guy that couldn't care less
about our issues.
The Belgian or maybe Swiss guy.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
He was calling to say , to ask if we had forgotten a
set of eyeglasses in our roomwhich we had, which.
I had and I am blind as a bat.
I'm legally blind.
I can't see shit without mycontacts.
So for me to forget my like, ifI lost a contact I would
fucking freak out.
I wouldn't have, I'd have tohave someone drive me, I think.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
If I luckily we weren't driving but also I was
really happy that.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I didn't.
That would have been a sadscene because we had to wait.
The gentleman from the boat wasable to run down to the
off-boarding area where I ran tomeet him and he handed off my
glasses to me that I hadforgotten.
That is travel magic rightthere.
So I got my glasses and wecontinued upon our way.
Mr Driver man did show up again.
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He did.
I think his name was Ben.
Maybe I know Ben winters intexas and then spends summers in
alaska yes, I believe his namewas ben and he was starting a
like taxi company in juno,because there was really no one
to do it.
There's not a lot of them, yeahso that was his plan and he was
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very cool.
He took us to the bed andbreakfast, we dropped our bags
off and we walked, and then hedropped us downtown and we
walked around everywhere.
That's where we discoveredDeckhand Dave's Tacos.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So fucking good.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
And we had.
Was it that day that we had thetour, the tour?
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Probably because then we went to Deckhand Dave's like
every single day.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, so we had a little bit of time to kill
before we went on this walkingfood tour, A walking food tour
which I recommend, anywhere youtravel in the world, anywhere
you go, if you can do a walkingfood tour, do that.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Juno was the only place in our little stops that
we were at that happened to haveone that we're aware of.
I looked, I looked, but maybethere, maybe I didn't look hard
enough, but juno is also youknow, it's a capital city.
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
It is a big deal, yeah so we did this, we had
signed up for this walking foodtour and, um, again, the link,
the, the address that they hademailed me, um, we were headed
that direction and we kind ofthought it was a little off the
beaten path, which seemed kindof strange, but was a little off
the beaten path, which seemedkind of strange.
But we walked out there.
We walked like half an hour toget to this location and we
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finally got there like 10minutes before it was supposed
to start and it was clearly notwhere we needed to be.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
There's not a soul in sight.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
You kept calling we couldn't get ahold of.
Finally you got ahold ofsomebody and they're like oh
yeah, the email has the wrongaddress in it.
You need to go over tobasically the pier where we got
off the boat, like where we werewhere we had been.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yes, Initially we just dropped our bags and had
been drop us back where it was.
But where Ben dropped us it wasyeah, yeah, we would have been
fine.
Yeah, so we had another.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
We ran, we basically ran, you got a hold of the
actual tour lady, yeah, and youwere like we're coming, wait for
us.
And so we ran through Juneauback to the port where we got
connected with this and this wassome travel magic too, because
we met up with the food tour.
She was like no, it's cool,we'll wait for you.
We were only like 10 minuteslate Cause we were like we ran
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we show up huffing.
We were sweating in Juneau,which was not warm.
No, and it was this beautifulyoung woman who was hosting the
tour, yeah, and three otherwomen, and that was it.
And she, the hosts, actuallysaid she was like is this is
everybody?
Oh my God, this is the firsttime I've ever had just ladies
on the walking tour, and onethat's small, so we felt very,
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very special.
Yeah, and it turned out to betwo sisters, oh, that's right.
And their mom and their mom,and their mom Was had just been
diagnosed with Parkinson's.
And they were doing a bucketlist trip together, yeah, so
that was very fortuitous.
Kind of like kismet typesituation.
I kind of forgot about that.
That was really cool.
We we follow them on instagram.
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I don't see them.
Maybe they don't post veryoften, but they were also very
like, kind of like politicallythe same way that we are, and
one of them was a therapistright the mom was a therapist,
just like bonnie was.
Yeah the mom was a therapist, aretired therapist, yeah, and one
of the daughters worked forplanned parenthood or something
like they both were in, likeadvocacy and male reproductive
rights.
Yeah, they were both very like,aligned with how we would like
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to see the world be.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, it was very cool.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So we went on this walking food tour 100% highly
recommend we all.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
We both bought way too much stuff that so much, so
we had shipped home yeah, um,yeah, so much seaweed themed
pickles they eat a lot ofseaweed, yeah salsas uh, spruce
tips, spruce tip.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I still have to put the spruce tip um syrup on ice
cream.
Oh, I bought a little jar of,or a little bottle of, the
spruce tip syrup that I'msupposed to put on ice cream.
Remember the guy the tour guidesaid her favorite spruce tip
ice cream they don't makeanymore in town but that if you
put the syrup on vanilla icecream it's like a close second.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I did use the spruce tip salt to salt rim a cocktail
not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Okay, I didn't know you bought that.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, so do that Also , she told us the legend of the
lovebirds oh, yeah, which, oh?
And that's where we saw ourfirst shame pole on that tour oh
, yeah, we had okay so in on thezodiac tour in the in the
indian islands is where welearned about what a shame pole
is, yes, and how there are onlylike three of them, still, still
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in existence about yeah,because if you, if you pay your
dues, do your due diligence,they will take down the shame
pole yeah, it's a nativetradition that you can they.
They'll erect a shame pole inhonor of some.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah basically, if you dishonor, yeah, basically if
you fuck up, if you like, sayyou're gonna pay someone and
then you don't, they it's, it isa totem pole.
But is a totem pole of shameand shows you basically being a
shitbag.
Yep, and there are only likebut once you pay your debt or
whatever it is, once you'verighted your wrong, they will
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take down the shame pole.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yep, yep.
And there are only a handful inexistence, like three, I think.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
And we got to see one of them in Juneau and it was
funny because we knew exactlywhat it was.
We were Juno and it was funnybecause we we knew exactly what
it was.
We were like, oh my god, ashame pole.
She was showing us this poleand kind of like this totem, and
telling us the story and we'relike, wait a minute, is this a
shame pole?
And it turned out it's theshame pole for the Exxon mobile
guy.
Fuck that guy.
Yeah, so that was prettyexciting and she.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I felt cool because she was like oh my god, you guys
know what a shame pole is.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
She was like nobody ever knows what a shame pole is.
And we're like, well, we're onthe seaborne adventure, we're
very learned women if Juno Junoyeah, we also trademark.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
We didn't see anywhere any swag, anything
anywhere.
That said, if Juno Juno, whichis a real missed opportunity.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm not a marketing genius, I mean, but hopefully,
by the time this airs, we mighthave like a t-shirt you can buy
that says if Juno, juno becauseI would wear that.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I would wear it too, and I will take credit for it.
If I see it anywhere else, Iwill.
That was us.
That was us.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Absolutely it.
If I see it anywhere else, Iwill.
That was us.
That was us, absolutely.
Yep, yeah.
So we went on the walking foodtour, had some amazing stuff,
learned about the lovebirds,learned about the lovebirds so
you got a little bit obsessedwith the lovebirds, yeah in uh
Tlingit lore, which is the oneof the indigenous tribes of
Alaska and the one that was inthe area that we were mainly in.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
there were basically two not clans, that's our people
Like.
I forget what they two tribestwo, two factions.
I don't know Two differentfamilies yeah, families and one
is a Eagle, bald Eagle, and oneis a Raven.
And I have a very soft spot forravens.
(39:45):
I've had pet ravens who werenot.
They were injured, theycouldn't be out in the wild.
Kara sends me raven stuff allthe time and it's also very
smart evolutionarily, because ifyou were a raven you had to
marry someone in the from theEagle family and vice versa, and
(40:09):
they both have their specificattributes, like one is loyalty,
one is intelligence, one is,you know, love, one is valor,
and they say that together theEagle and the Raven are a
perfect union and they call themthe lovebirds.
So there was really cool artand jewelry depicting one eagle
and one raven.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's how we heard about the kindred post, which is
the store that we recommended,I think, in the very first
episode of this, but oh, that'sright, our tour guide was
wearing cool lovebird earrings.
She had these cool like umresin like baccalate almost I
don't know what that means, butthey were cool and they were the
lovebirds.
It was one eagle and one ravenwhich, kind of like at a
(40:47):
distance, look similar butthey're not.
They're different and they werevery cool airing Very cool, she
said I think I got these atKindred Post.
Yeah, go check it out.
So we went immediately over toKindred Post and shopped there
while we waited for DeckhandDave's to open so we could get
our fish tacos.
Yes, and they were fucking good.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So good yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We got a margarita and some fish tacos.
That first trip.
I think we went there threetimes in one day.
Yeah, like it wasn't just theone, because we were only in
Juneau for two days, but I thinkit was three times in one day.
We went there and got fishtacos.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I believe that, like I said before, I think about
those tacos once a week easily.
Yeah, I think about those fishtacos more than I should.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yep, I do as well.
It's not right, but it is whatit is.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
We also went to a Michelin star restaurant in
Juneau that is a crazy goodwood-fired pizza place that was
our last meal in Juneau.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That is a crazy good wood-fired pizza place.
That was our last meal inJuneau.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, cafe Lupo, something Lupo, something about
a wolf.
That sounds right, so good,really talented pizzaiolos, the
dough perfect.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I think we got like a tomato and we got a caprese
salad.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
We got a margarita pizza, because I judge a pizza
place by their authenticmargarita fair.
It was so good.
The crust was blistery withbeautiful bubbles we got to sit
at the bar but don't.
Yeah, we're total bar dwellers.
Anytime we go to a restaurant,we prefer to sit at the bar.
You're gonna get the bestservice.
Your server slash bartender haseyes on you constantly.
(42:24):
It's so fun to talk to thelocals.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
That place was so good that was, and it was fun to
watch them like work back there.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You could kind of see the yeah, the bar overlooked
the kitchen and that sexy ass.
Uh, pizza oven, a brick.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I thought you were gonna say sexy ass pizza oven
guy, because you were like wehad a long discussion that night
about how he was managing theheat over there Because he had
like a beanie on and longsleeves and shit and we were
like what is this guy?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
He was not sweating.
No, he was, and he was standingin front of a brick pizza oven,
yeah, and he was doing thingswith the dough with his hands,
like doing things with the doughwith his hands.
Like I can't, I can't toss apizza.
Get your head out of the gutter.
I I'm thinking about the pizzamore than anything, honestly,
but I can't toss a dough likethat.
I wish I could the stretch.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Stop you, stop you, stop it we did have some really
good pizza on this trip.
I mean when I think alaska, Idon't think pizza, but I will.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I do now I think fish tacos first and foremost,
obviously, yeah, yeah, fishtacos.
The halibut, oh my god.
We had some of the best halibut, just for the halibut that's on
a t-shirt for sure, and we weresmart not to toot our own horn.
(43:38):
But we were smart, but a lot ofpeople got off the boat and
then flew home and we took acouple days in Juneau and
explored.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
So did Luke and Michael.
Yeah had a blast Yep.
We'd occasionally see a blueseaborne jacket.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
We would and we clocked it.
Yeah, we clocked it.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
We're like oh, there they are, I'm glad we did that
because I wanted to kind of like, to kind of like decompress
yeah, and that's where the sealegs thing comes in, because
after the week on the boat ohyeah, you felt it.
I really feel it.
I kept feeling like every oncein a while, my whole world was.
It lasted for like three days Ididn't have that everyone's
because of my my dorky motionsickness patch probably yeah,
(44:17):
probably because everyone Istarted to wonder like is
something wrong with me?
Because every once in a whileit felt like the world was kind
of like shifting underneath meand moving around.
Yeah, just out of nowhere huh.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Um, then we flew from Juneau back to Seattle, spent
one night in Seattle at, I thinkwe stayed at the Fairmont.
The Fairmont, um, gorgeous,great, had a lovely time.
Amazing.
Where did we eat that night, doyou remember?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
we went to thai food oh, we walked to thai food.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Oh yeah, my friend kainoa told us about a great
thai food place and he wasthrowing glitter and confetti in
the air for kainoa um yeah, wewalked up.
He's one of those that if youever need to know where to eat.
He's your man.
And yeah, oh, and the room theyput us in was so nice.
They gave us a beautiful roomwith two queen beds.
(45:12):
But I got to say we were bothkind of laying in bed after you
know, sharing a bed for 10 days.
We were both kind of like Imiss you over there, I miss you
over there too, you over theretoo.
Hello, hello, all right.
Well, hello into the void.
I guess we'll see in themorning.
The beds were literally three.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
We did crawl in the same bed at one point with our
wine and chocolate and yeah, andwatch all of our adventures
back, yeah, on instagram.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, so that was pretty fun, yeah and then cara
got in her plane and flew to theSacramento airport and I got in
my plane and flew to the SonomaCounty airport and, um, and we
and that's Alaska guys we saidgoodbye and headed out.
(45:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So and then called each otherwhen we got home safe.
My drive from the airport waslike less than 20 minutes.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Mine's only like 25.
Sacramento to Auburn is onlylike 25 minutes, yeah, so it
wasn't that bad, yeah, but yeah,that was.
I mean, all in all, we had someamazing, like amazing
coincidences, like travel magicand things that just line up the
travel magic is when you don'tplan for things and they just
happen.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And sometimes you think it's a bad thing that
happens, but then something elsehappens and you realize that it
was the best possible thingthat could happen.
Yeah, Like us waiting so longfor the ride to the that you got
your glasses, I got my glasses.
Yeah, cause that would havesucked.
Or that we just happened towalk into that one dive bar
where the lady was obsessed withDolly's house and told us all
about it.
Yep, we had a lot of travelmagic.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
So I guess the moral of the story is you never know.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
And leave room for travel magic.
Don't plan every hour of yourday.
Yeah, leave room for travelmagic to happen.
Stay loose, stay loose.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, room for travel , magic stay loose, stay loose,
stay loose.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, find a dive bar , ask that bartender.
But also, don't miss the boat.
Don't miss the boat, yeah,that's good advice.
And if you're gonna miss a boat, have it be just your kayak and
not your ship it's okay to missthe kayak, but don't miss the
boat, don't miss the ship, yeahyeah well, I guess on that note
we'll wrap up the highlights ofalaska.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Visit us on instagram at dmsh pod or see all the
highlights.
Email us at dmshpod, atgmailcom, or check the show
notes for any relevant links toplaces that you might want to
check out.
I do want to link to theKindred post because I think
they do have an online storethat you can check stuff out.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
They do.
I have looked at their onlinestore.
They have great stationery,they have great jewelry.
They have great little gifts.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
We're still waiting for them to come out with a
sticker that says if Juno Juno,which we might end up beating
them too, We'll see.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
You know what?
They haven't done it by now.
We gave them first dibs andthey didn't take that and run
with it.
So challenge accepted,challenge accepted.
Did people ask you I meant to,I meant to ask you about this
Did people ask you when you gothome, like how did you guys
travel together, do you guys?
(48:18):
Did you guys travel?
Speaker 1 (48:18):
People were worried about if we were going to get
along Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
If, like, we were going to get along okay, me too.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
If, like, we were going to have conflict along the
way or whatever I was notworried, even a little bit, and
you were annoyed with me oncewhen I wasn't in the room which
I also took with a grain of salt, because I know that I once I
hit the wall.
Yeah, I am a kind of an assholeoh, you were not an asshole to
me in my head I'm an asshole, Ilike I'm going to go say goodbye
last night with our friends.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I'm aware that people like to stay up later than 8 pm
, and I'm not one of them.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
So I was trying to be like, not always, but on
vacation, on vacation.
I will stay up later.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I'm an old grandma sometimes.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, I didn't get once.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I mean you're welcome , but I when we got back, I was
like oh, my God, we travel soeasy.
It was really easy.
Yeah, it was really easy and itwas um.
It was fun and exciting and umhighly recommend traveling with
someone you love and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, and travel with someone that, uh, you get along
with really well.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, I will say it's helpful that we both are early
risers.
Yeah, and we like to crawl intobed and put our earplugs in and
go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yes, like we also care about kind of the same
things, like good food, beingchill, flexibility, flexibility,
like I think our temperamentsare pretty similar.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yes, I don't like to be locked into a plan.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
No, but.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
But I also don't want to miss the boat.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Right, and if there's something we you know wanted to
do, like zipline, we're goingto be locked into zipline or
we're going to be locked intoRaptor Center.
I think that was key that weagreed on what we wanted to be
locked into ahead of time andthat we were both pretty
flexible.
I think we each only pickedlike two things and there was
overlap within those two things.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
So that's it for the Alaska trip.
All right, call at us.
Let us know what you think ofhow we're doing, if we sounds
okay, you know, like all thatnonsense.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Are you guys amazed at how much my dog can sleep?
We've been, we've recordedmultiple episodes today.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
We're batching because I'm in Santa Rosa
visiting and, uh, my dog hasbeen asleep the entire time.
My butt's asleep, my legs areasleep.
It's time to start movingaround all right, love you guys.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Bye.
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