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February 20, 2025 18 mins

Ever been haunted by the creepy-crawlies of your childhood? We’ve turned our fears into fodder for fun stories, starting with an earwig encounter that spiraled into a lifelong moth aversion. Get ready to laugh along with our Bodega Bay camping tale, where moth earrings serve as a symbol of irony and acceptance. You'll hear how a cousin's story inspired quirky nighttime rituals like covering our ears with hair, and how a moth-in-ear incident brought it all full circle. We promise you’ll find humor and possibly a few relatable moments in the ways we've learned to cope with these irrational fears.

On a lighter note, discover the outrageous world of extreme hair styling with our hilarious "rat balls beard" creation, and explore creative ear protection hacks to keep the bugs at bay. We'll share our mosquito war stories from Costa Rica, complete with tales of daring pharmacy visits for a quick fix. And if you're heading somewhere tropical, you'll want to hear about the miraculous B12 shot that left us buzzing with energy. Packed with amusing anecdotes and practical tips, this episode is your passport to laughter and learning, with a side of insect-induced hilarity.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, are we live?
Do you like how I say are welive?
Right when you have a SquizChase cracker in your mouth?
Good timing, always, always andforever.
So we wanted to circle back toa couple things that we
mentioned in episode one thatpeople were wondering well, what

(00:21):
is that?
I asked Kara to tell a storyand then we just took off on a
tangent and tangent andabandoned that ship yeah, people
were real curious yeah, theinquiry.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
People, inquiring minds want to know cara so we
need to follow up and share thismoth story the moth story that
we, and in honor of which we areboth wearing our moth earrings
yes, kara and I are both fans oflarge beaded earrings tip of
the hat to Lucky Lark cheers toLucky Lark, who is another um

(00:56):
maker here in Sonoma County, andthese are both her moth designs
.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
She made these custom for me, uh, because here's what
mine look like moths um hold avery special and traumatic place
in my heart are they still astraumatic?
Are they getting less still?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
no, absolutely okay and yet I feel really, really
bad when I have to kill themwhen they get in my house.
I try not to, but I also don'twant them breeding in my house.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, you can just take a cup and a piece of paper
and release them outside.
Yeah, that's what I do withspiders and moths, and or you
just go straight to murder Idon't know, I can't talk about
it, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, we're here to talk, so we have to talk about
it.
Yep, so we're going to talk.
Well, let's back up, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Let's back it up.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is the moth story.
When I was like eight, adifferent cousin, which one
Another cousin?
That traumatized me.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think it was my cousin Erin.
Oh okay, she was staying at ourhouse and she told me this
story about how an earwig hadgotten into her ear.
Nope, and her mom had had toput like hot oil in her pour hot
oil in her ear to get theearwig to get out, to come out.
So ever since I was eight yearsold, I've been terrified that
something's going to crawl in myear while I'm sleeping.

(02:19):
Okay, so to this day, I have totake a big chunk of my hair
before I fall asleep.
Oh, don't worry, we're going tomake you demonstrate later.
I have to put it over my ear.
I am aware that it probablymoves when I roll over.
Doesn't matter, I'm exposed, butI cannot fall asleep without a

(02:39):
big chunk of my hair covering myear hole.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know what?
Whatever your anti-moth deviceneeds to be, as long as it makes
you feel good.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I support you.
No, this is an earwig problem.
Oh, sorry, At this point in mylife we only in the fucking
story.
Sorry At this point.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
We only have earwig problems.
This is an earwig problem.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
We got 99 problems, but a moth ain't one yet, and it
is trans.
There's transference herebecause I did assume that
spiders would probably try tocrawl in my ears too, or my
mouth or my nose.
But I can't do much about that.
It's really, I'm afraid of myears, right?
So my whole life, this is afear you actually can do
something about it with yourmouth.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
As you and I now will know, we'll get to that in a
different episode next up, nextmouth tape.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
We're going to talk about mouth tape, okay, okay,
because this is educational.
But right now this I've alwayssaid that right now this is just
story time.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I've always said that .

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Right now, this is just story time.
You guys are going to learn somuch that you did never want to
know, that's true, but you'regoing to learn.
You're going to learn today.
So at this point in my life,okay, then fast forward.
I'm like 21, and I'm withBonnie camping at the coast we
were at Bodega Bay camping witha bunch of her friends and we're
sharing a tent and we go tosleep and we tuck in all cozy.

(03:44):
I put my hair over my ear.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I go to sleep.
I'm sorry to say I was livingin Santa Monica At this point in
time, so I was not on thisparticular Bodega Bay camping
trip.
We missed you deeply, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
So we hang out by the bonfire, we drink wine, we go
go to sleep in the tent.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Wait, didn't she pee on the?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
beach too.
No, this was.
That was a different story.
Okay, that was.
We were just at.
We were at Bodega Bay, though,when we were just drinking wine
on the beach, and she had to peeand she didn't want to go find
a bathroom, so she just hiked upher dress and just peed in the
sand, like she pulled herunderwear aside and just peed in
the sand, and I was, was youknow, back to drinking wine.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's like the world's largest litter box the beach.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean Gross, she was creative, I was.
I appreciated that.
Okay so, but fast forward.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You're in the tent, I'm 21.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I think I'm 21.
I'm visiting her and we're inthe tent sleeping and I hear,
hear, she wakes me up.
She's just Kara.
Kara, there's something in myear.
Can you take a look?
We have our flashlights, orwhatever.
I look and I turn the light onjust in time to see moth a moth
finish burrowing its way intoher ear, just the, just the tips

(04:58):
of the wings back ends of thewings.
I saw moth wings, all, like youknow, put together, because it
had to fit oh, it had to fit itslittle body into a canal-ish
shape.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I'm really proud of you for even being able to tell
the story.
This is how big my eyes were inthe night looking.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm like, oh, my god, there's a moth and it's
crawling, it's burrowing intoyour ear hole and she's like,
okay, well, oh.
And then it starts likeflapping its wings against her
eardrum and she's like, oh, it'sso loud, could you please like
we have to do something right.
She's like here, drown it.
She hands me her water bottleand I pour water in her ear hole
like there's nothing.

(05:36):
It's in there there's nothing Ican do except drown this mom no
, that was there's.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
She went straight to death too.
Well, if it's in your ear thatyou can't do the cup paper trick
, she said it was very loud,like it was flapping against her
.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's flapping against my eardrum.
Make it stop.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
No tweezers.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean, would we have had the fort Like I don't know.
I don't know if I traveled withtweezers back then.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, you don't have the eyebrows, I do.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I hadn't started sprouting chin hairs yet.
Okay, okay.
So I did not travel withtweezers, probably.
Anyway, we didn't think aboutit.
We were like we need a fastsolution here.
We're going to drown it.
Okay, so I poured water out ofa plastic water bottle into her
ear hole and she was like, oh,that's better, it's slowing down
, it's dying, it's like.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
She's just listening to it slowly, slowly, okay, flap
its last.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, okay, I think it's dead.
Okay, let's go back to sleep.
She rolls off.
I'm like what?
Like no, we need to get thatout of your ear somehow.
Like we gotta go to thehospital.
She's like don't go tomorrow,it's fine, just goodnight.
Nothing's gonna happen todayand I was like holy shit, I'm

(06:48):
supposed to sleep now.
I'm already like new fearunlocked.
So I, of course, I grabbed myhoodie and I grabbed my hoodie
up and I'm like yoink, oh andyou just cinched it so tight.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, I just cinched it so tight.
Nothing's coming in your face,just looked like a cat's ass.
That was the only way that Icould get back to sleep.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
That night was with a hoodie on.
That night was with a hoodie on.
It was summer, but it was atthe beach, so I don't think it
was that.
I don't think it was that hot,yeah, but yeah.
So I cinched up my face like abutthole, like it's cat's
butthole, and went back to sleepand in the morning we hopped in
the car and went to Kaiser andwe went into the doctor.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I went into the doctor's room with her.
I'm going to.
I do have a question.
I'm going to even venture tosay it probably wasn't even that
early in the morning.
She probably wasn't thatconcerned about it.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, there was probably tea first.
I'm sure we had breakfast andcoffee and hung out for a while
and I was like this is the onlything on my agenda since
midnight when she woke me up.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Operation Remove moth .
Remove moth Immediately.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
She's like okay, so we make our merry way over to
kaiser.
We sit and we wait and you knowshe's totally fine.
And we get in there and the thedoctor looks in her ear and she
he's like well, I mean, I hateto tell you, there's nothing in
there.
There's nothing in there andI'm like well, there's something
in there oh, I saw it.
Oh, I promise you, there issomething in there.
And she was like yeah, we, weknow that there is something in
there.
And she was like yeah, we knowthat there is something in there

(08:11):
.
And she's like well, I don'tknow what to tell you, there's
nothing in there.
So we landed on the solutionthey were going to wash her ear
out, so they come in with thewater in the little tub and they
squirt stuff in and blah, blah,blah, blah and after like three
or four flushes out, plops themoth behind it must have been

(08:33):
hiding behind a big chunk ofearwax or something gross.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm sorry, that's the gross part, the wax.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
The wax part is the gross, yeah, so out plops a big
piece of earwax with a mothstuck to it.
Do you think it was stuck, Iwonder I don't know if it got
stuck, but um but it, it wasthis is new technology and moth
trapping it was a silence of thelamb's moth.
Okay, and they let her keep it.
She asked if she could keep it.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Of course she asked you know this, no, but it
totally tracks when she had herhysterectomy.
She wanted to keep that too.
Yes, that does track.
So she was like it was yourhome for nine months.
I couldn't just throw it away.
People wonder why I was likeferal as a child.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
There's two glaring examples, and the doctor's face
too.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh, I'm sure, oh shit , oh shit.
I wonder what she did with it.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
She kept it in her glove box for a long time In
what.
We walked out with it that dayin a biohazard bag.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
In a clear biohazard bag and she kept it like.
She flattened it out in thebiohazard bag and kept it in her
glove compartment for I don'tknow how long.
It was probably there for years, yeah.
So we I mean so, yeah, so I'mnot a huge fan of moths, but we
loved.
She loved to tell that storyand I loved it because she was
so chill about it.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
It was not a chill situation I mean she was pretty
chill about almost a lot ofthings, almost everything.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
People wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah except for, maybe, politics chill about
everything.
That's true.
What I'm gonna need you to doright now and because this is
for most people, unless you're apatronus patreon member um, I'm
gonna need you to take yourhair out of that bun and
demonstrate what you do when yousleep.
I need to wash my hair when youdon't have a hoodie, because I

(10:08):
have seen this so many times andit makes me laugh, so hard,
every single time.
So I'm going to describe, forthe people who aren't patreons,
cara's hair.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It look, it's full of body right now and crazy and
full of dry shampoo um okay,she's gonna.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
She's gonna part it.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm grabbing a big chunk from the right hand side.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes, and I'm like it's basically from her from the
back, the behind, her earsforward.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, section of hair , I would say a quarter of her
head from the right I'm pullingit into like a ponytail and
she's making yeah, so that it'sthick and now I'm gonna pull it
down and just like make surethat it's sitting right over the
ear hole yes and the idea isthat if something does try to
get in my ear, it will tickleand I will know that it's coming

(10:51):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
What she also does.
What Is?
Take the other side.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh, I have done that, haven't I?
Yes, I don't do that all thetime.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
But you can.
This is a bit more of anextreme version.
This is an advanced situation,so she's taking her hair into
two low-ish pigtails and she'sgoing to fashion it like a beard
underneath her, so imagine itlooks like a weird bonnet, it's

(11:26):
a ponytail coming out of thebottom of your chin?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
yes, and it's sourced from two separate ponytails on
either side of your head.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, and it looks like the creepiest, like when
when a 20 year old kid who can'tgrow a beard tries to grow like
a weird, it's rat balls beard.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
You've never heard me say rat balls, grow like a
weird straight.
It's rat balls beard.
You've never heard me say ratballs.
I rat balls is what youdescribe like like picture a
young man coming into his beardyeah, but it's scraggly and oh
yeah, that's what I'm talkingabout.
Yeah, that's called rat ballsoh, I've never heard that.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Did you come up with it or is that a thing?
Katie, tip of the hat to toochcheers to tooch.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Katie tooch and I came up with that in college
because some, some guys wouldjust be kind of scraggly looking
and we're like, oh, he's ratballs, oh okay, that's rat balls
.
I love it yeah, I mean, feelfree everyone to use the term
rat balls, um, and I'm gonnaremove this now because this is
rat balls it it's the she.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
She has done this like we'll be getting ready for
bed and sharing a bed, and allof a sudden, I look over and
she's got this random hairsituation with her ears covered
tightly.
You would definitely feel it,though, so I think they do sell
ear muffs like you can buy theselittle.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yes, they do sell ear muffs.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
That is a thing shut up.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
They sell like.
They're almost like mesh, thatyou could.
They're like ear condoms, butthey're mesh and you can they.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
They tuck over your ear so they're like so and so
that you so like, like, when yougo to tropical places.
It's basically just an insectscreen for your ears so what I
do, though?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
because I'm not buying mosquito net.
For your ears it's a mosquitonet for your ears, yes, but I do
feel like there is somevulnerability in the front
because it's not, uh, becauseyour ears not shaped regularly,
does it?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
look like a very, very tiny shower cap.
Yes, okay, I'll show you, okay,a tiny shower cap made of mesh.
I don't have the same phobia,so I can tell you with 100
certainty that I'm never goingto worry about this.
Look, shower cap for ears.
It's um, wow.
Someone is making $7 offsomething that costs 10 cents to

(13:30):
make Ear caps, for it does lookexactly like a tiny, tiny
shower Cap for your ear.
Shower cap for your ears, yeah,okay so, but what I do.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
when, like when I went to Costa Rica, I was very
concerned about this rightBecause the spiders are and I
have beef way before the mothsituation happened.
Um, I've always been like superscared of spiders.
I just it's like a visceralthing.
I can't help it.
I'm so sorry, I know.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
I know Poor me.
I mean, you're not alone.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
There's a lot of people who share that, but Costa
Rica is full of giant spiders,right?
So I yeah the mosquitoes?
There are no joke I had to getall the things there.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I had to get a giant needle in my ass cheek for the
mosquitoes yeah okay, we'll comeback to that.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Sure, um, but I do bring a big, thick headband and
when I'm in tropical places Isleep with a big thick headband
over my ears and it seems tomake me feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I would like something like under my chin,
like no, it's not, it's notunder my chin, it's not under my
chin.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh it's, it's just pulled forward, enough on my
forehead Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
So that it's like but it still comes from the back.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Does it go under your hair orover top of your hair?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
In that scenario I sleep with my hair in like a bun
.
Okay, and the headband is likearound, okay, like as if I was
working out and trying to keepsweat from coming onto my face
like, okay, headband, likeheadbands, go, so anyways.
Yeah, that's the moth story.
That is how headbands work.
That's how headbands work, incase anybody needed to know.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Um, yeah, so that's probably a good place to stop,
unless you want to talk aboutgetting stung by what happened
to you in costa rica oh, themosquitoes were just out of
control and normally they likeme, but they like Raina better,
and Raina and I were together,so usually if there's a plethora
of mosquitoes, I just have tostand near her and they go to

(15:16):
her instead of me, which is kindof evil.
I mean, they're going to biteher regardless of whether I'm
there or not.
They they really, really loveher.
But when we were in Costa Ricathey loved both of us and we got
blasted so bad.
I had hundreds on my legs, somuch so that I would wake in the
night and literally feel like Iwanted to claw my skin off.

(15:39):
So we went to the pharmacy toget just something for the bites
that were already there, andthe lady asked how many days we
were still going to be in CostaRica, and at the time I think we
were going to be there like sixor something more days.
And she said well, there is ashot you can get.
And I was like I don't care,I'll take it, I don't, I don't
care, I don't care how much itis, I don't, because in the

(16:04):
night I would wake up so itchy.
Then I thought maybe it wasbedbugs, and then I freaked out
about bedbugs.
So I was like, yep, I'm doingit.
And Raina said, okay, I'll do ittoo, and I went first and it
was fine.
What I should not have done waslook at the needle first.
No, never, I don't have a weirdneedle phobia, but it was a big
fucking needle.
It was long, was long, and itwas pretty girthy, it seemed

(16:25):
like to me, but luckily it wassuper, super sharp, so it didn't
hurt going in when she pulledout.
When she pulled out, you couldfeel it a little bit, stung a
little.
It stung a little during pullout, but I'll tell you what it
worked.
Okay, I would do it again in aheartbeat b12 oh, oh okay yeah,
and both reina and I saidanytime we go anywhere tropical,
we are definitely gonna go geta b12 shot, a big fat one, right

(16:50):
in my ass cheek, because ithelped amazingly well.
You heard it here first yeah,b12.
See, we told you guys you weregonna learn stuff.
I just learned something Ididn't.
And it's cheap.
It's a b12 shot even at like amed spa is, you know, 25, 30
bucks here in Sonoma County.
All right, yeah Well, all right.

(17:10):
Well, that's it for this one.
Thanks for joining us, bye, bye.
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