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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The pain of divorce,
can feel impossible to move
through the grief, the fear, theself-doubt that just won't let
go.
But what if the key to healingisn't just in your mind, but in
the energy your body is stillholding onto?
Join our conversation todaywith quantum transformation
therapist, kate Mayer, toexplore how quantum healing can
help you release divorce pain atits root.
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Hi love, welcome to DearDivorce Diary, the podcast
helping divorcees go beyond talktherapy to process your grief,
find the healing you crave andbuild back your confidence.
I'm your host, dawn Wiggins, atherapist, coach, integrative
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healer and divorcee.
Join me for a fresh approach tohealing grief and building your
confidence after divorce.
Today's episode is one of myfavorites and I am really
excited to share with you thatnumber one, that feeling of
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being stuck, like, no matterwhat you do, you just can't
break through or move forward.
Kate is going to break downexactly why that happens and how
quantum healing can shiftthings in a way that traditional
therapy often can't.
And, trust me, what she sharesmight change how you see your
own healing forever.
The second thing we're going totalk about is something Kate
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had said to me about trauma thatstopped me in my tracks.
She asked me if I knew what washappening in the moment.
I was conceived like what wasgoing on with my parents in that
moment and, I'll be honest, itwas a lot.
But when she explained how ourearliest experiences can shape
our entire emotional blueprint,it made so much sense.
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Stick around, because this partis powerful and finally get
ready for something totallydifferent, because Kate is about
to walk us through a quantumhealing session and even if
you're just listening, you mayactually feel the shift.
I know I always do.
So if you've ever wanted toexperience quantum healing
firsthand, don't go anywherebecause it's in here.
Let's dig in Welcome.
(02:12):
Thank you, how are you?
I heard you're having a talky,talky day, doing a lot of
meetings today.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it's been a bit
full on today, but hey, it's
all good.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, welcome.
So tell our audience just alittle bit about who you are,
and then Tiffany's got ourinterview questions back there
she's going to pop in with.
She's going to facilitate us.
We're so lucky to have afacilitator.
We are hi.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Tiffany, so I my name
is Kate Mayer and I am a
quantum transformationpsychotherapist.
So I use quantum healing tohelp people to release all of
the the energetic imprints ofpast events that have happened
in their lives, of past traumas,of belief paradigms that don't
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serve them, of emotions that arestuck in their body that they
haven't been able to process,the negative trapped emotions
that get really stuck.
So what quantum healing does isit gets right to the root of
the problem and shifts all thatis holding people back in terms
of those tricky emotions andbeliefs.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I think that what's
so very cool about the work that
you do is the human body isincredibly complex, right and
and from our belief system overhere and I know yours as well is
that it was designed by anintelligent creator and that it
was designed to heal itself.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And it's incredibly
complex and when you talk about
using quantum healing andgetting to the root, it's
positively impacting all ofthese layers within the body,
mind and spirit that we don'teven fully understand absolutely
and I'm I'm amazed every, everykind of week, there is
something where I'm like, oh wow, that's incredible that this
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person's brain and body has beenable to develop this system to
protect them from seeing acertain thing or, to, you know,
to disconnect the the, todissociate in certain scenarios
and all of these sort of thingslike we are incredibly complex
yeah, well, we're so glad tohave you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Thank you for joining
us from Scotland.
It's been awesome to work withyou.
We've brought you in a coupleof times to work with our team
actually, yeah, which has beenreally really cool and then to
work with the women in ourprogram, and we have a lot more
planned with that.
So, tiffany, talk to us.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, so your
collaboration brings together
powerful healing modalities.
Can you share a bit about yourjourney, each of you, and what
led you to this work and to eachother?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, a little bit
about our journeys.
You want to go?
A little bit about our journeys.
You want to go?
Okay, you want me to go?
Yeah, okay.
So let's say okay, 2010,.
Right, I am getting divorced.
It's going to be like see howquickly I can do this journey.
2010,.
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I'm getting divorced and I'mrealizing how traumatized I was
and that I never dealt with it.
Right, and I commit to myselfthat I'm going to do the work to
transform all the things andalso I'm a to do the work to
transform all the things andalso I'm a therapist.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Super embarrassing to
get, kate.
We've never discussed this.
Were you a therapist when yougot divorced?
Uh, I was just becoming one.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yes embarrassing to
be a therapist and getting
divorced.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah well, you know,
we, we're living proof that we,
we understand what people havebeen going through you know,
right, that's right, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And so I also had a
lot of chronic disease.
And so, as I was sort ofthrowing myself into my work
post-divorce and throwing myselfinto my healing, every time I
learned a new modality.
I wanted to see how much of myhealth I could reclaim, right,
how much mental health and howmuch physical health I could
reclaim.
And every time I integrated anew tool or a new ideology right
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, whether it was yoga ormeditation or past life
regression, hypnosis or Al-Anon,or I mean acupuncture, like all
, like the list goes on and onEMDR and cognitive behavior,
like all the things, right, Istill would have dissociative
processes, I would still havecluster headaches, I would still
have these things Right.
And so I just kept going,adding modalities until finally,
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right, I don't have clusterheadaches anymore and I don't
have arthritis anymore and Idon't dissociate very often at
all anymore and when I do, I cancatch it and sort of get
reconnected really quickly.
And so where that journey led mewas to launching this podcast,
working with women and wantingto share the tools that I know
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fundamentally move the needlearound dissociation and trauma.
Really, right, because how canwe truly know that we're
changing our patterns and we'regoing to attract a different
partner unless we've changedthose underlying things.
So fast forward to last year,kate and I met mutually another,
marty Winder Adams, right.
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She has a couple of books andan amazing podcast and we both
were guests on her podcast rightand she introduced us.
She just knew who we needed toconnect.
She knew there was going to bemagic, and there is and it was,
it was like pretty instant right.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, your turn uh,
yeah, so and and and.
Then we have used each other'smodalities since then and you
know know, helped each otherheal, and then I've done some
great, you know some lovely workon your program.
So it's been brilliant and lotsto come, I'm sure.
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You know, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Right.
So as soon as we met, like you,what you do has the word
quantum in it.
So I'm like duh, but what?
And so we were on a zoom rightlike a zoom coffee and you said,
well, let me just show you.
And so I, you had me close myeyes right and you just did a
little quantum healing and, um,and I could feel my nervous
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system shift from the words thatyou were speaking and that was
so cool, like I was sold.
And then, yeah, we've sort ofbeen trading services right and
it's been really powerful.
Yeah, yeah I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So my journey, um, so
I started off, I, I did a
psychology degree, I didcounseling.
Like you, I've kind of wastrying everything, you know I I
knew I wanted to help peopleheal, but I was also on a
journey to heal myself.
And I think that's the thing,isn't it, that your purpose is
always in your pain, you know,and so so I started off in quite
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a kind of traditional therapy,therapeutic kind of way.
But I learned acupuncture, likeyou and all of that sort of
thing.
And I began and I realized thatyou can't get so far with with
the traditional therapy always,you know you could, you could
get people to a place where theycould start to believe in their
you know conscious minds thatthey were maybe worth something.
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But then a few months down theline, something would trigger
them and they would be back toyou know a difficult or anxious
place again.
And it's because you can't, youcan very rarely get to the root
of of the issue because it'sburied so deep in your
subconscious.
And so I was on this journey tofind whatever modalities I
could that would heal both meand my clients at a much deeper
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level.
I, I couldn't feel good in myheart.
I couldn't feel like I wasworthy in my heart.
I couldn't feel good in myheart.
I couldn't feel that I wasworthy in my heart.
I couldn't feel that I waslovable.
You know, I I knew that mynervous system was still quite
wired and I really wanted to bein a place of peace and where I
could feel love in my heart.
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And but it was when I addedquantum healing into the mix.
Oh, my goodness, shifted.
I could.
I could literally feel mynervous system kind of unwinding
and all of the so I used tohave.
Like my back used to beabsolutely rock hard, um, you
couldn't get anything in undermy shoulder blades or anything.
It was like properly rock hard.
And using quantum healing, youknow, all of that just started
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to shift.
I used to have an autoimmunedisease.
I used to have infections thatjust nothing would shift them.
I, I had a tick.
I had all sorts of likeautomatic behaviors which
basically were aimed at tryingto keep people away from me.
You know, I didn't.
People hurt me so much that Ididn't want people to connect
with me.
I and it and it upset me somuch because I wanted to connect
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with people but I it and itupset me so much because I
wanted to connect with peoplebut I, you know, at the same
time I was like pushing peopleaway automatically, and so these
are very deep layered, umcomplex issues.
But the beautiful thing aboutquantum healing is it's able to
get to them right at the rootand, bit by, I've been able to
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peel off the layers.
This is, this is how it works.
It's kind of there's these bigcore issues and then there's all
these layers around them andyou can kind of release bit by
bit until you start getting tothe real core of the issues
thing that I learned fromworking with you that was so
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profound, liberating, empoweringwas.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
one of the things you
know we've been working on me
around is stuff around when Iwas conceived, right, when we
talk about generational traumaand the vectors that get passed
down from generation togeneration and I knew I had
trauma around growing up in youknow some pretty traumatic
circumstances but reallythinking about, wow, what was
happening in the moment ofconception and how that gets
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woven into someone's energy,energetic imprint, right, and
knowing that there is a processfor um unlocking that and
releasing it, has been reallyremarkable.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, it's so
interesting because actually
what happens in the womb is itcan be a massive building block
in for for people, in terms ofif you're, if your mother who is
hosting you at this stage yeahis, is anxious, is like her
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nervous systems all over theshop.
If, if, even worse, she is verynarcissistic and has, is hateful
and angry and, you know, hasall these very difficult
emotions.
You're, you're growing in allof that environment, energy, yes
, in all of that energy, and ithas a massive effect on people
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and, and you know, quantumhealing is immense, that at
releasing all of that pain, that, as a baby you're, you don't
know what's going on, but theworld outside there feels very
scary because you're getting allof this negative emotion
flooding at you.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's beautiful,
beautiful work, tiffany.
Did we cover it, do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
yes, awesome, I think
.
So what's next?
Okay, so quantum healing workswith energy at a deep level.
How does it help women releasetrauma from divorce?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
wow, well, divorce
has.
It brings up all sorts of bigemotions, you know it brings up
I mean, for starters, it'sprobably not what any of us
might have wanted when we startout in a marriage, you know.
So all of that kind of hope,hopes and dreams that you might
have had for your future arekind of being dashed and you're
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facing a very different futureahead and that can bring up a
lot of big emotion, which is,it's very hard to process.
Quantum healing is amazing atreleasing that.
And then you'll have you mighthave all sorts of other really
big emotions.
There might be shame, theremight be, um, just loneliness,
deep loneliness.
There might be rejection, theremight be, you know, all sorts
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of difficult pain there andthat's that's just if it's been
a fairly amicable breakup, rightforget about high contact and
yeah, yeah, if there's, ifthere's narcissism or some sort
of abuse, and there can be muchmore um at play there and so.
But it's not just the emotions,I mean, there'll be all sorts of
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beliefs.
So what happens is when we have, when we experience these big
emotions, our brains become veryneuroplastic.
So so in these big life events,our brains adapt very much to
the thoughts we're thinking atthose times.
So obviously we might be stuckin a kind of feeling helpless,
feeling powerless, feeling likeour futures are going to be
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desperate, you know, feeling allof these sort of very difficult
thought processes that canbecome quite imprinted and and
leave us kind of stuck in ourown little cages.
You know, we kind of cageourselves with these negative um
beliefs and emotions, and soit's a, you know, these really
key times and and they can leaveus struggling for a long time
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to come out of these places.
But quantum healing can do thatreally really fast and just
have you facing, thinkingsomething really positive about
your future, seeing this as aclean start, seeing this as a
time to create something new andbetter, you know, rather than
thinking of all the lot thatyou've lost.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Right, Like that is
one of the things I think
consistently comes up is likethis sort of frozenness in the
cage that you mentioned.
Right, this frozenness about Idon't know how to let go of what
I envisioned could have been.
I don't know how to let go ofthat and even get momentum in a
forward direction.
A lot of like I don't know howto get there, I don't know how
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to break out of where I am toget where.
I don't even know where I wantto go Right, because there's
such a fear around makingchoices or trusting oneself.
I think this sort of feararound can I even trust myself.
It's.
It's really creates a lot offrozen stuckness.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yes, absolutely,
myself it's.
It's really creates a lot offrozen stuckness.
Yes, absolutely yeah.
And trust is such a such a bigissue, isn't it?
I mean, especially if there'sbeen some narcissistic behaviors
going on, you know, becauseyou've been programmed basically
to doubt yourself over and overand over.
And so then all of a sudden allof of that framework of the
marriage is gone and you're kindof out there on your own and
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you know, the crazy thing isthat you go from because you're
so trained to sort of looking atwhat you know, using them as a
guide for how you need to be, orlike watching what they, how,
what their responses are to yourbehaviors and all of those sort
of things.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Suddenly you're out
on your own and you can actually
feel like you don't know how tobe you know you're so used to
yeah, yeah, exactly yeah, and soI have experienced certainly
with you and I've watched youknow our team experience that
sometimes in one or two or threequantum sessions you're already
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seeing some shifts.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Right, sometimes
within 10 minutes.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, we could even
do a little bit.
I was thinking that, right,like could we do a little bit?
Yeah, let's, let's, let's chata little more, right.
And then like, yeah, let's do alittle bit.
Okay, I love that.
All right, what you got for us,tiffany.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Okay, so, kate, what
is your experience using
homeopathy been like and whatshifts have you noticed, and how
are they different from otherhealing modalities?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I, I love homeopathy.
So the first, my firstexperience of homeopathy was
when my son was six months old.
He oh, it was such hard workreally.
He bless him.
I mean, I didn't know it at thetime but he had silent reflux,
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so his stomach acid was comingup into his throat and he would
scream like constantly.
I have you know, first time,mom, I didn't know what was
going on.
I didn't know what the problemwas.
Nobody, nobody was giving meany advice.
I just knew that I had a veryunhappy boy and I never knew
what the problem was.
He, he would wake up every hour, he wanted to breastfeed all
the time because breast milk wasalkaline, so it would help him.
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But obviously that wasexhausting for me and exhausting
for him.
And you know we were just, andyou know, obviously the the
mother child born.
You know we were, we wereinfluencing each other massively
and we were both completelyyeah so I tried everything, um,
you know, craniosacral and allsorts I can't even remember now,
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but I took him to anything Icould possibly try.
And then I took him to ahomeopath and within so she gave
him a remedy and the next 24hours was an absolute nightmare
because his symptoms got a wholelot worse.
But that's what tends to happenwhen it's like the exact right
remedy.
And so, yeah, the 24 hours werehorrible.
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And then it was like I had awhole new boy, like the tension
in his little body just relaxedcompletely and, um, literally
within 24 hours, it it wasreally amazing, um, and within
two weeks, you know, he was calm, he was able to nap in his cot,
which had never happened before, you know, he started sleeping,
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thank goodness it.
And and then she gave me someremedies as well, because
obviously I was exhausted andyeah, and, and I find it quite
difficult just describe thefeeling of healing with
homeopathy, because it happensat such a deep level, quantumly.
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Yeah, exactly, it's kind of likejust feeling more peace in your
body somehow, or feeling morepresent or feeling more
connected.
Um, yeah, I mean that that's myexperience anyway, but my and so
then I took it myself for aboutthree years after that and gave
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it to my children and, you know, could just notice like my, my
boy, had some quite autistictendencies as a, as a young boy.
Um, so he would do things likeif we ever walked past, you know
, a gravel driveway and therewere some stones out, we would
not be able to walk on untilevery single stone had been put
back into that driveway.
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So walks could take quite along time, um, and you know, but
then I would give himhomeopathy and all of this just
disappeared, you know, and, andit amazed me because I was like,
well, this is, you know, he's,there's no placebo effects
happening here.
He doesn't know what, what's upbeing right, he's just shifting
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.
So that was amazing.
So it really helped him to justloosen up a whole lot and he
now is very good at maths andthings like that, but he doesn't
have, you know, he can be verysocial.
He doesn't have any of the, youknow, maybe more difficult
sides of the, of autism, um, butuh, yeah, and so I have just
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been using your remedy, dawn,which has been magical for me so
um.
I used Dawn's trust remedy thelast two weeks or so, um, and
I've had a lot of like abuse anddifficult stuff in my childhood
, um, and my adulthood, um, andand I've always found it very
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hard to get to that final stageof really trusting people and
really being able to lean onpeople, and last two weeks I
have been able to do that andthat's been really, really
amazing and, um, oh, it's reallychanged my life.
So I am, I am incrediblygrateful for that.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I love how these two
different tools that we use are
so complimentary, how they justwork so deeply and profoundly
and quickly, right.
I think that if there wassomething that I could just
convey to women about the workthat you and I do
collaboratively is that so oftenwomen spend years chasing
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solutions to release their pain,years in therapy, years like
cold plunginging and I don'tknow all these very hard things,
right, and it's not thatquantum healing and homeopathy
are easy because, like you said,very often these deep
modalities they bring things upright that have that feel very,
very acute for a short period oftime and that can be very, very
, very challenging.
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But then there's this intenseamount of relief and
recalibration that doesn't takeyears and years, and years and
years.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Awesome what you got,
tip tip.
Okay, what happens when womenheal in a group setting versus
on their own, and how does thecollective energy amplify the
healing process?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I love this
conversation right, because
we've been talking about, um.
Well, I don't know about you,kate, but when I got divorced I
joined a lot of groups and itwas I think I did that because I
was estranged from a lot offamily, like I just didn't have
a lot of family close by.
You know, the ones that I didhave were in other states, far
away, and whatnot.
And so I joined Al-Anon and Ijoined a women's group, women's
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group therapy and whatnot, andso I joined Al-Anon and I joined
a women's group, women's grouptherapy, and like one of those
personal development workshopslike, oh, the one I did was
called the living course, butthere are others like I can't
think of them now but and Ifound it very, very helpful for
me to have it was.
It was embarrassing and I had toconfront a lot of shame and
learn how to do vulnerability,but I found that when I was
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vulnerable and people receivedme and supported me, especially
post-divorce, down to some ofthese women I'm still so close
with I go to their children'sweddings and we raise our kids
together and the bonds that Icreated.
But a lot of women are veryintimidated by group work, and
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so it's such an interestingconversation.
Why group work?
Why is that valuable?
What's your experience beenwith that case?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I absolutely love
group work.
Something really deep happenswhen a group comes together with
a kind of shared intention toheal and transform.
You know like the energyalready from that intention is
immense, and then when you seesomebody else in the group being
vulnerable, it kind of givesyou permission to be vulnerable,
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and that's that's when peoplebond at the deepest level, you
know.
So that's when deep connectionsare made and and it's so lovely
to see somebody who's goingthrough something that you might
be going through and sharingyour journeys together and
celebrating successes together.
But in terms of quantum healing, something deep, deep happens
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when there's a group quantumhealing session.
It really like the energy seemsto move faster and deeper.
It's really interesting thatyou know in a group you get lots
of people going from, so so Idon't do quantum healing.
We tend to start with a numberand then you know towards the
end, see, you see what thatnumber is in terms of how
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triggering it.
Yeah, exactly, and you know somany people in a group situation
will go down incredibly fast.
It's, it's amazing, happens ingroup situations, but it's just
like we're not meant to do anyof this stuff alone.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
We're not.
We're neurobiologically wiredfor love and belonging
connection, right, and I thinkwe can see this in a lot of
different I don't know.
I'll call it spiritual spaces,right?
We know that there's some realresearch about group meditation,
that the energetic momentumthat comes from group meditation
can be measured, that the Biblesays where two or more are
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gathered, right, that God is intheir presence.
There's something about that,the momentum that gets created
in a group.
I recently read an Instagrampost that I just love so much,
but it talked about how AbrahamMaslow did research around.
When there's a shared positivepeer culture, that it really
supercharges the results.
There's sort of this if you cando it, I can do it.
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It's so much easier for us toadopt new, healthy beliefs about
ourselves, the world around us,about relationships.
It just helps thosetransformations happen more
deeply and more quickly.
Totally, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
But to do that, to get thosebenefits right, because there's
always an energy exchange but todo that, to get those benefits
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right, because there's always anenergy exchange, you have to be
willing to expose yourself, tobe vulnerable, and that is
sometimes throws us so far outof our window of tolerance,
right.
It's so dysregulating, it's sotriggering to share ourselves
with other people and to riskjudgment.
Because we do judge, we judge,because we do judge, we judge,
and so it's like learning how tostand to I don't know take the
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risk to get the love, theacceptance, the support.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The thing is, what's
a life if you're not able to be
fully vulnerable as well?
You know, because it's in invulnerability is where the deep
connections happen.
It's where you can be authentic.
It's where you can be authentic.
It's where you can be in yourheart space.
It's where you can experiencereal deep love.
You know everything happens inthat space and so if you're in
that, in protection all of yourlife, you know it's gonna be.
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It's gonna be it's gonna feellonely, it's gonna feel you
don't get those deep connections.
It's gonna feel like you'rehaving to support yourself all
the time.
That's not, that's going to bea hard life, and so that's so
interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I would guess that
what you just said I want to
highlight it right, like I wantto take out my big fat
highlighter and highlight itthat if we're not able to do
vulnerability with other women,other people, that we're going
to feel like we have to supportourselves all of our life.
Because I think that women don'trealize that that's connected,
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that we consider support asbeing someone to help me fold
the clothes and drop off thekids and pay the bills and fix
the toilet.
We think of support in the sortof I don't know, dare I even
call it transactional.
But when we, when we connectthe dots, that deep connection
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is what actually feels the mostsupportive and gives us the
energy to tackle all the things.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's something I
don't know that people realize
no, I think that's right, and Ithink there's so many women who
say I'm strong, I can doeverything myself, I'm
independent, and sort of wear itas a badge, but it, you know,
it doesn't bring happiness.
You know, really, we're meantto live in a tribe, we're meant
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to connect deeply with peoplewhere we're not meant to hold
all of that pain inside and doit all ourselves.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, and even just
even doing the things we love,
right?
I love doing what I do with youwith.
Coach Tiffany with Producer Joy.
It's so much more fun to servewomen in this tribe with you,
ladies right, it's not nearly asfun to do it solo.
So yes, we want to have ourtribe to do the pain with.
But also.
I love my tribe for doing thecool shit, totally, totally.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Awesome.
What's next?
Many women struggle with thefear of investing in themselves
after divorce, so what would yousay to someone on the fence
about joining the program aprogram like ours?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I would say you
probably haven't looked after
yourself for a long time.
You probably haven't putyourself as focus for a long
time, you know maybe ever.
Yeah, it's probably all abouteither your husband, husband or
your family.
This is a whole new way ofbeing for you.
And say, putting the intentionout there and saying you know
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what I matter and I'm gonnaallow myself to be looked after
and I'm gonna allow this to bean easy process for me and I'm
gonna allow myself to besupported, is such an immense
thing and it transforms thatwhole process of what could be a
really difficult scenario foryou.
You know, and I it's.
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It's interesting because whenI've taken on these, done these
group programs, um, somethingimmense happens at the point.
You know, each time I've doneit, I've been like I don't know
if I can afford this.
Quite honestly, this is reallystretching, this doesn't feel
very comfortable.
But as soon as I've done it andI've gone all in something
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shifts massively in me and youknow, and I and I've never, ever
regretted it, it's I've, youknow, because what happens, you,
you, you go on to a differenttrajectory, don't you?
Basically, you know, if youbumble along on your own, you
kind of, you're kind of, youknow going along like this, but
you put yourself on.
So a year later, after being onthis program, you're like in a
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whole different place and it'sjust worth its weight in gold to
not sit and struggle and tryand manage everything on your
own.
I think.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
It's so hard for
people to believe that life
unfolds based on our beliefs.
And what is a belief other thana thought that we've rehearsed
over and over and over again,right?
And so I know for me that everytime I've invested or joined
something or taken that leap offaith right, a leap of faith is
that it's belief in somethingthat I cannot yet see, but I'm
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trusting that it's going to bethere.
And when I live life from thatbelief system, things that I
could never dream of right Startto unfold, and it is.
It's very scary.
It's very scary.
It's like do I have enoughmoney?
Do I have enough time?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Am.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I enough.
Are they going to like me?
Enough Am.
I doing it right.
Do I belong here?
You know, and that was a themethat really came up when, when
we were working with you overthe holidays right, this idea
about belonging and how oftenmany of us feel like we don't
belong, many of us feel like wedon't belong and then that
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subconsciously is driving ourchoices not to join, and then
that reinforces and it's likewow, if I just take a leap of
faith that I do belong and thenI live into that, it will come.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And in the coming of
it, right is is where all those
nooks and crannies of love andconnection and support fill in
and it, it's, it's, it's like itwill feel uncomfortable at the
beginning because it's it, it is, it's, it's like it will feel
uncomfortable at the beginningbecause it's, it is.
It's uncomfortable.
It's meant to feeluncomfortable because it's you
taking that leap and and it's inthat risk that everything
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changes.
You know, like life isn'tsupposed to be just doing the
same old thing over and over.
You know it's not.
You're supposed to be in aspace where you go.
Do you know what I think I need?
I need to put it all out there.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I need to try this
you know, I think one of the
reasons I've always well sincesince my divorce right, because
I would say that pre-divorce Idid not do vulnerability, like I
did not and and it was sort oflike in the getting divorced and
feeling like I had failed thatI sort of checked my ego at the
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door and was like I clearlydon't have this.
And so I think that in thatmoment where I was just like
okay, I have to learn and I haveto put myself in situations to
learn.
But there's also this otherthing I said to my therapist at
the time like, well, thank Godyou're in charge now, because I
am not doing an adequate jobhere.
But I think that there'sprobably something inside of me
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that when I join a group, I'malmost like turning over part of
the responsibility, like I'mgoing to let this experience and
this group carry the parts ofme that feel like they can't
right now.
And I don't know it's workedfor me.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
That may be coming
from like I don't know, not like
a straight, pure place, but Ithink that I've allowed myself
to just get relief from the ideathat when I didn't know,
someone else would know yeah,and that's yeah, but also you're
kind of, you know in that, inthat, never showing any
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vulnerability, you're basicallyoperating from a place of
keeping everything quitecontrolled and you know, and as
you step into that groupscenario, it's kind of like a
letting go, and as you let go,you know of the control like
control, doesn't you we?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
can't control
everything produce abundance.
Control doesn't produceabundance absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
So as we let down
some of that type control and we
just let ourselves be supportedand let go a little bit and
enjoy the ride, you know, that'swhere life happens.
That's the joyful stuff yeah,it really is.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And and that idea
that abundance comes from
letting go and the relationshipbetween risk and reward right,
it's like the bigger we canreach, the bigger we can receive
.
Yeah, yeah, very cool.
You want to do a little quantumwork, a little quantum healing?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I don't like yeah,
quantum play, let's do it.
But so what we're going to do is, in a minute I'm going to ask
everybody to focus on an issue,and I don't want don't think
about your whole divorce, forexample.
Think of maybe, um you know howyou feel about your ex, maybe,
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or um your guilt about your kids, or you know quite a specific
issue, something that feelstriggering at the moment.
And then what happens is I amgoing to, I've muscle tested and
um channeled and worked outexactly the commands that I need
to give tonight for this groupof people in order to to make
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some real shifts, to releasewhat is holding people stuck in
these particular areas.
So, as I talk through thesecommands, people might feel some
physical sensations in theirbodies.
They might find that bigemotion comes up.
It will be passing its waythrough, so don't worry too much
(36:19):
, but you might find yourselfprying, you might find you feel
anger, all of these sort ofthings, um, you might find that
old memories come in, becausewhat we'll be doing is we'll be
releasing these at it, at theirvery roots.
So you'll probably find thatthe things that are triggering
you in your divorce process youknow if you're, if you're
suddenly feeling very lonely orvery rejected.
(36:41):
They very likely things thatyou know stem back to your
childhood, those, those oldimprints, and so you might find
that, as this goes throughyou're, you're taken back to a
memory from where you felt quiterejected as a child and that
will be all of the negativecharge from that event being
released and you might find thatyou feel sleepy.
(37:02):
And you might find that youfeel sleepy or you might find
that, um, your brain goes veryclear, okay, okay okay so very
percolating over here okay.
So if everybody wants to justclose their eyes and close their
eyes just because, then you canreally be in touch with what's
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happening in your body and feelinto all that comes up around
this issue for you, and justbring an issue to mind and allow
yourself to feel that asstrongly as you can and as you
feel into that, just notice whatemotions are coming up and
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notice what thoughts coming uparound it and notice too where
you feel all of that in yourbody.
And notice too where you feelall of that in your body, maybe
in your chest or your stomach.
Just notice where it feelstight or tense or hot, and just
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mentally give that response.
The number out of 10, with 10being it couldn't be any bigger,
and we'll check in a little bitand see where things are Okay.
So, superconscious, pleasetreat the structure of all
dissociation processes.
(38:39):
Let me just allow a little bitof time between each command for
the processing to work its waythrough.
Superconscious, please tag andtreat all memories causing
disorganization, disorganization.
(39:05):
So we're going to just treatthe decision making processes
and all associated parts andbeliefs and then do a massive
change, history and everythingelse needed.
Superconscious, please treatthe structure of predispositions
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and if barriers are encountered, please treat them and any
associated traumas.
After that, superconscious,please tag and treat all fear
and resistance.
And superconscious, pleasetreat all programs that create
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unnecessary challenges.
Okay, so, just keeping your eyesclosed for a moment, just check
in again on that original issue, see how things are now, see if
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you still feel the emotion inthe same way or in the same
place.
I'm just going to take a littleminute for that to integrate a
little, and then I'm going to doanother few commands and then
we'll check in and see howeverybody is there.
(40:39):
So just notice at the momentwhat number you might give that
out 10 for how big that responsefeels to you.
And then let's go again.
Super conscious, please treatthe structure of all conflicts,
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judgments, resentments and blame.
Superconscious, please treatthe heart centre and repeat this
procedure until there are nobarriers to experiencing peace
around this issue.
(41:24):
Superconscious, please do astructure of associations
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procedure on guilt and treat allmemories associated with
holding on and resisting andthen do a sentence procedure on
I am grateful and at peace andthen do a massive change,
history and everything afterthat, and then do a massive
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change in history and everythingafter that.
Okay, so when you feel ready,just check in on all that comes
up when you think of thatoriginal issue.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Just see what number
you would give that out of 10.
Now, how did you get on withthat long dawn?
So, um, I mean, I'll tell youwhere I landed, right, which is,
oh my goodness, we're live oninstagram right now and I don't
know how many people arewatching.
But because everything's energy, how much did we you, we us
shift the collective energy on apeople who have Instagram open
(42:54):
right now?
I?
don't know we can't answer thatquestion, but like, clearly I
went from thinking aboutsomething stressful and
triggering to thinking somethingso exciting and positive.
Yeah, right, that that's that'swhat I experienced.
I did have a handful of likememories and associations come
up, and I love it when you saythings like and repeat until
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there's no whatever's left,because I'm like, oh, even when
she's gone, I'm still at process.
Right, it will be, yeah, and Ican still at process.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Right, it will be.
Yeah, and I can see at onepoint your eyelids going yeah,
that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I see that when I'm
doing EMDR with people right,
and I know you've seen that inEMDR too like you just see
energy moving through thephysical body.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
It's amazing, yeah,
yeah it's pretty interesting
because a client had a he's gotone of those watches, that kind
of measures what your body'sdoing, and she sent sent me the
visual picture of her dayyesterday and it was like stress
, stress, stress, stress, stress, and then the hour that we've
done the session, it was likecomplete relaxation.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Literal peace.
It's so interesting.
Yeah, you know, because I justmentioned the EMDR piece.
I think there's a fascinatinghistory to quantum healing In
the book.
You turned me on to a theory oftreatment of your personality.
I have it on my desk there.
I was just reading right thatone of the people who originally
tapped into quantum healing wasan EMDR therapist and started
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using quantum healing to makeEMDR a less dysregulating
experience for his clients.
Which am, I repeating thatright?
And so that's so interesting,right?
Because when we're treatingtrauma and re-experiencing it is
very, very stressful.
And eventually, as he did moreand more quantum healing, he
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sort of forewent EMDR.
Yes, yeah completely yeah, andand just right so.
So it's so interesting tocombine all of these modalities,
right?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
it's very very cool
but, yeah, yeah, it's an amazing
package you're putting together, dawn.
It really is.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
It's really special
for anyone who's considering
joining our program.
You'll get to work with Kate inthe program for over the course
of a year, and it is a very,very cool experience.
She also has created, kate.
You've created some tracks forus that you can find in our
premium podcast content.
Yeah, yeah.
And we have found the women inour program have said that when
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they listen to the tracks overand over again and I think at
least one or two of them havedone it in their sleep and they
really experienced a lot ofshifts from listening to the
same programs over and overagain and I think you said,
because it's able to penetrate alittle deeper each time.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Super cool, Kate.
It is always such a joy to sitwith you.
Thank you so much for beingyour amazing self for being
being on our team, for offeringyour connection and your wisdom
with the world.
It's it's just such a joy toknow you and be with you.
Thank you well back at you dawnall right, talk soon, be well
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thank you okay bye.
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