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Can Somatic Techniques Revolutionize Your Divorce Recovery Journey?
Have you ever felt like stress and unprocessed emotions might be sabotaging your well-being during or after a divorce? You're not alone, and this episode is here to guide you to freedom.
When Producer Joy, Coach Tiffini, and I dive into the world of somatic practices, you'll discover how these powerful techniques can help release stuck emotions and improve your nervous system health. We know how challenging it can be to navigate emotions post-divorce, and incorporating somatic elements into your routine might be just the game-changer you need.
- Learn how ear massages can rapidly downshift your nervous system, offering instant stress relief.
- Discover the mom sway and other movement techniques that help ground your emotions and promote an empowered state of mind.
- Explore the benefits of foam rolling and body scanning as tools to enhance emotional and physical wellness.
Ready to alleviate stress and start healing? Tune into this transformative episode now and empower your divorce recovery journey
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know that moment when you replay a conversation
in your head, wishing you hadsaid what you really felt, or
when frustration builds but youpush it down because good girls
don't lose their cool.
What if I told you that allthat unspoken emotion is still
in your body?
In this episode, we're breakingthe silence on how your
suppressed emotions affect yourhealth and energy and how to
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release them.
Your health and energy and howto release them.
Hi love.
Welcome to Dear Divorce Diary,the podcast helping divorcees go
beyond talk therapy to processyour grief, find the healing you
crave and build back yourconfidence.
I'm your host, dawn Wiggins, atherapist, coach, integrative
(00:44):
healer and divorcee.
Join me for a fresh approach tohealing grief and building your
confidence after divorce.
Okay, here's the truth abouttrying to keep it all together.
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We've been told our whole livesyou need to calm down or just
be nice or just let it go.
But let's be real.
Where does all that swallowedfrustration actually go?
In just a minute, we're goingto talk about what happens when
you hold onto it all and how tofinally let it out in a way that
feels safe and powerful, andthen we're going to take a look
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at the ways your body is talkingand assess whether or not
you're being a good listener.
You might think the stress isin your head, but the tight jaw,
the heavy chest, thedebilitating exhaustion is all
trying to tell you something andbefore this episode ends, we're
going to talk about how todecode those signals to give
your body exactly what it needsto feel lighter, calmer and free
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.
Let's dig in.
So we talked about adding asomatic element to our day today
because it's such an important,you know, conversation about,
especially for women.
I think about how to move,stuck emotion and energy.
But even just from theperspective of how much we sit I
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sit all day at work and it'snot good for our bodies, it's
not good for our circulation,it's not good for our nervous
systems.
Oftentimes, one of the things Ido in session with clients
there's a whole host of somatictools that I do in session with
clients there's a whole host ofsomatic tools that I use in
session, but one of them,especially when I'm trying to
help people access emotionallywhen they tend towards
dissociation is the ear massage.
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So our ears, all, all, like theentire ear structure and around
our ears, is directly tied toour vagus nerve, which is the
information superhighway in ournervous system and so when we're
feeling stressed or wound up ordissociated, numb or upset,
massaging our ears is a verypowerful way to immediately
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start to shift the nervoussystem.
So I have such an amazing jobthat when I sit with clients and
I say, okay, and now we'regoing to do some ear massage,
and I just start literally witha decent amount of pressure like
not so much that causes pain,right, but a decent amount of
pressure just really rubbing inall these sort of crevices my
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ears feel hot right now.
And it's because I have a lotof nervous system activation.
Right, when we're engaging withpeople or we're presenting
something, we do get somenervous system activation.
It's just how life works, right.
If I was in full rest anddigest, like nothing would be
happening, right.
So because I'm here and I'mthinking and I'm juggling things
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, I'm activated and I can feelmy ears hot.
So by doing this ear massage itreally starts to downshift the
nervous system and what I findwhen I do this in session with
clients is I will feel a yawn,start to build and then there
will be like mutual yawningright.
But it really does create forfolks who are feeling a bit
frozen or a bit dissociated or abit overstimulated or stressed.
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This can help them land in thesession.
It can help them process things.
If there's something that'sparticularly difficult to
process, if we're having somereally extreme releasing in the
session, it can help bring waterto that fire.
So this is just a tool.
See, it's hard to talk and yawnand do ear massage.
So if this isn't a thing thatyou do like, I do ear massage.
So if this isn't a thing thatyou do like, let's start doing
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this all the time right, it'ssomething you can do in a
meeting.
It's something you could do,you know, at the game or in car
line or you know.
It's a great nervous systemtool to just be taking really
good care of yourself.
So from a nervous systemperspective, our nervous systems
are supposed to be like rubberbands.
They're supposed to be able torespond appropriately when
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stressed and then go back to aplace of peace when not under
stress.
And most people in our culturetoday we're just stretched all
the time right and we don'tdownshift.
Our nervous systems don't comeback to this place of
restfulness and it's why we haveso many digestive issues and
why we are so stuck andtraumatized and wound up and
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stressed out and anxious andangry.
So the ear massage is one I'vebeen leaning on a lot lately and
one I love, but one of theother ones I love is going to
feel a little more shocking.
So something that I will oftendo in between session, or just
like, let's say, I wake up onthe wrong side of the bed, or
let's say, you know, something Ifeel like has not gone my way,
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I have found, because I havesuch a tendency towards
dissociation, I really benefitfrom fully discharging any sort
of emotion that I amexperiencing or would tend to
suppress or want to dissociate.
And also, from an astrologicalperspective, I am like a double
air fire sign.
So for me, like I'm just very,very, very cerebral, so for me
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to get into the body and actemotions out physically is
really really, really important.
So oftentimes, right, I will dothis.
Producer Joy calls this themommy rock.
Is that what you call it?
The rock Sway, mom's sway.
So I may start like this, butI'm really going to be listening
to my body and what it's askingfor.
So this mom's sway is actuallyvery, very nervous system
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regulating and grounding and itcan just help the nervous system
sense that, okay, I am safe inthis moment and, let's say,
there's something that I'mreally pissed off about.
I will get really, really intothat emotional expression and I
will act out what I wish I couldhave said or what I wish I
could have done in that momentthat was deemed not appropriate
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and, I think, to all the womenin the room we can really really
relate and resonate to.
There's so much aboutdischarging emotion that is
judged as not appropriate in oursociety and in this world and
for those of us that work behinda desk, we're not properly
discharging that emotion out ofour bodies and then it piles up
and it turns into disease and soI will grunt, growl, groan,
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yell like, scream things.
I will not do that to you rightnow, but I will absolutely when
I am away from the situation.
We'll make sure I complete thatemotional experience and I will
pair it with things like no, no, no, right.
I will literally physically actout boundary setting or
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expression or like what I wish Icould have said, and I have
found that to be just absolutelya game changer in terms of how
I go to sleep that night or howI transition into spending time
with my family in a day, how Iwake up the next morning, I will
absolutely feel such a reliefand I will just go and go and go
until I'm either exhausted or Ifeel a shift right, and I
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finally feel like, oh, thatfeels really, really better.
So just know that when you'refeeling feelings, or you're
thinking feelings, or you'refrustrated or stuck or whatever,
right that even just startingwith this mom's way is so good
and then starting to giveyourself permission to welcome
an emotion and listen to yourbody and what it's asking for,
right, if it's asking for no, ifit's asking for no, if it's
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asking for a hug, or you knowit's acting, asking to stretch a
particular way.
I will tell you there's oneother thing that I do a lot
somatically throughout the day.
I have a foam roller, I have afoam roller downstairs this one
is aggressive and I have a foamroller upstairs that's less
aggressive.
But I do a lot of foam rollingto really upregulate circulation
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and emotional processing,grounding in general, and I will
absolutely concentrate onrolling this on my back, so I
put it on the floor and I rollmy back up and down, and so it's
a little like self chiropractic, right, but also it helps keep
my heart open because as we getstressed and our nervous system
gets dysregulated, we start to,without even realizing it, close
(08:50):
off our heart centers, rightwhen we just have the onslaught
of content that we experience ina day, even from just scrolling
Instagram, absolutely yourheart can close because you get
triggered by whether it's newscontent, political content, the
sufferings in the world.
You saw that that lady that youreally wanted to be friends
with went on vacation and shedidn't invite you, and so when I
foam, roll up and down my backand allow my heart to open, I
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just find that that is a reallygood maintenance tool for me
somatically and to keep the flowgoing in my spine, in my
nervous system and in my heartcenter.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So we're going to do a somatic break and we're going
to do the one of the easiestthings you can do.
Oh, I love an easy thing right,okay, so everybody has pillows,
everybody has something in mold, everybody has a bedroom pillow
, something something so theeasiest thing you can do is
really drop into the feelingthat you're struggling with
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Sometimes.
You can't do it automaticallyLike you can't.
You can't throw things at thegrocery store, you can't scream,
you can't stop your feet, youcan't throw a tantrum in the
grocery store because a youmight get arrested people right.
People would look at you right.
So go home and then putyourself back in that spot until
you connect with it you knowwhat?
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that you connect and you getangrier and you start
perseverating on what you shouldhave said or you could have
said, and then you throw thepillow on the floor and just now
I got chills right, so you putit on the floor, you can fun
fact women in a sepia state arebetter from violent motion.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Ah, so like, where are sepia qualifications?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
here makes a lot of sense, just connecting all the
dots today.
And as you do this, you willfeel yourself release that anger
, like you don't hold onto itanymore, like it's like oh, that
person who made me mad at thegrocery store or hurt my
feelings or whatever activatedpart happened which was a bad
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day.
And it had nothing to do withme and it didn't Right.
Other people have parts You'rejust a victim of somebody else's
form right.
So like get the chills, moveyour shoulders, move your neck.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Do you ever scream things when you're throwing your
pillow?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't because I have neighbors.
I like screaming in the woodswhen it's not necessarily picked
up.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I love this one too.
Yes, obviously.
So I'm a big fan of adding thegrunt or the growl, or the yell.
Yeah, even if it's Sometimes,I'll be in the shower and I'll
make some pretty weird noises.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's like getting it out right.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Whatever it is.
Also, humming is such apowerful one.
I'll hum a lot in the shower orI'll I don't know vocalizing
while I throw a pillow.
It's just up levels.
It it's an excellent tool.
You know, I we have somebody,actually one of our favorite
listeners not that we havefavorite listeners.
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Podcasters don't have favoritelisteners.
What's wrong with you, Dawn?
One of our favorite listenerssent me a text message today.
Also, if we don't DM onInstagram, like come on folks,
like send me a DM.
She texted today and said herkiddo did some pillow throwing
because her kid watched herpillow throw recently.
And this is a kid, a child, whohas had trouble with anger
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management for a very long timeand went to pick up a pillow
recently.
And I think it's just soempowering for any person to
know that they can manage theiremotions.
I think we very often,especially in this very
polarized country where we justseem to have such big feelings
about everything and don't seemto feel like we can manage them
(12:47):
Right, but to be able to do so,it's a.
It's very empowering, yeah,yeah, yeah, Very relieving.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I I'm sure this is probably very relatable but like
when my kids were younger, Iwould just ignore their tantrums
.
I would step over them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I would do.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Because, like they're getting out and they're fine.
Now I encourage my 10 year old,bigger, bigger, like, set your
feet, like you know my, my 10year old Bigger Stomp their feet
Bigger.
I can't stomp her Like stompyour feet.
Like you know, my 10 year oldhad a very heartbreaking
situation the other day and shewas just so and she was feeling
so much shame and she was justin her little head.
So you know, just getting herto move her body and stomp and
anger and like.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, because we get so in our head, right, like when
you had my kiddo the otherweekend back in Savannah, right,
and she was feeling all thefeelings about being separated,
yeah, and I had her get up anddo jumping jacks, right.
And then all of a sudden she'sgiggling she shifted so fast.
Somatics, somatics.
We've adopted the jumping jacksas well, but also I gave her a
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random number of jumping jacksto do, because when the brain is
trying to do math, it also it'sgoing to move from the lower
brain, stem right triggeredbrain into the top brain, and so
I gave her a super randomnumber.
I think I said 37, because whenyou're right, it's like what?
And then it just it takes youout of whatever you're feeling.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So Dawn knows this very well.
Joy's learning this about me aswell.
I am the disassociation queen.
In my past, through my journey,through my healing journey, my
favorite way to deal with myproblems would be to completely
just shut down and disassociate.
I had a really hard timedropping into my body.
I had a really hard timefeeling big feelings because my
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managers which we will cover ina little bit in IFS as soon as I
started feeling a feeling, theywould come in and save the day
and they'd be like nope, we'regoing to protect her and take
her over here and she's just notgoing to feel anything.
So to me, my favorite somatictechnique right now is body
scanning.
So this has given me theself-awareness to where, if I'm
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in a situation where I feel likeI'm starting to become
triggered, I immediately justdrop into my body and just take
a quick moment and I'm likewhere am I feeling this?
Am I hot in my chest?
Is my pulse quickening?
Am I starting to feel fuzzy andlightheaded?
Normally that's the cue thatI'm about to disassociate is
when my mind and my thoughtsjust stop completely and I just
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go blank.
It protects me from feeling thebig emotions and then I move
into fight flight mode, so Iwill usually like hang out in
the corner by myself or I wantto leg it the hell out of there.
So what I've started doing isjust taking a breath, just
really going inside and sayingokay, I'm feeling these big
emotions right now.
So what are they feeling likeinside, you know, and how are
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they presenting?
I had a lot of health issuesprior to starting homeopathy and
doing this, because my stresswas actually manifesting in my
body in physical ways.
I had things that were showingup on tests medically that were
very scary.
I had to go through a lot ofvery scary tests because of the
physical signs I was showing.
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My doctor at the time had putme on six antibiotics.
Nothing was touching anything,any of my symptoms, and so I
started using homeopathy withDawn and I started being very
aware of my stress level becausewhat I started noticing was I
felt okay, but clearly my bodywas telling me it's not so.
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If you feel like you're okay inyour mind and you kind of feel
calm, but you're still feelinglike these physical signs of
stress, tiredness, exhaustion,fogginess that's your body
telling you that something'swrong.
It's not so.
I would just encourage everyoneto be able to really take a
little bit of time, drop in,check in with yourself and ask
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what does it feel like in mybody when this is happening to
me?
Can I catch this?
And so it starts giving youthis self-awareness to where I
know when I'm about to trigger,to the point where my body is
about to shut down andeverything else is about to take
over.
It's helped me tremendously instaying very present in the
moment.
Sometimes, if I feel myselfgoing out, I'll start to look at
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things around the room and I'llstart to name them just to keep
myself very, very present.
So the key to preventingdisassociation is staying
present in the moment.
A lot of times I will take anobject and I'll pass it back and
forth through both of my hands,because the part of the brain
that activates yourdisassociation cannot work at
the same time that you're doingsome sort of physical activity.
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So it will actually stop mefrom disassociating as well.
So a couple of my favoritetechniques.
For any of my other fellowsisters out there that just love
to shut off their feelings, Isee you a couple of cool
techniques that I like to try.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You know, when I was in an advanced EMDR training
they did that ball techniquewhere we would throw it back and
forth.
Like you know, between you andI same thing.
It's something about having tohave spatial reasoning or
spatial awareness.
Yeah, it like inhibitsdissociation.
So throwing a ball back andforth right, like a squishy ball
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back and forth across the roomis a great somatic technique.
Yeah To to regulatedissociative tendencies.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So being able to be mindful of stress too.
And then the homeopathy.
It was crazy because in a yearlater, when I went back to my
doctor to rescreen, I had noneof my symptoms.
Um, like some of the massesthat had formed in my body were
completely gone.
Um and I was not having as manyflares or anything like that.
So it's definitely I would tellyou to take charge of your
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health.
That's one of the things and inpart of finding your tribe is
like finding a really gooddoctor that's going to listen to
you and is going to advocatefor you.
This was the first time that Iwent to see my doctor two weeks
ago.
It was a brand new doctor.
I wanted to try her.
She was kind of she's like anosteopath, like natural.
You know, like I was, like I wasso excited I knew I was going
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to love her right away, Causeshe came in the room and she's
sitting Indian style and she waslike all up in my face.
Oh, my goodness, that's amazing.
Oh God, she was so great, Right.
So like it was the first timeI've ever been asked in an
appointment what homeopathicremedies are you on?
That's amazing.
Yes, Like she cared, she wantedto know why do you take this
and what does this do for youand why are you?
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And again, going back to thewhole empowerment thing, you
know I'm very sepia.
I carry a lot of masculineenergy because I had to do all
the things as a single mom andso it's very hard for me to tap
into my womanly nurturing part.
My daughter gets that veryquickly with me, but not a lot
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of other people get my softnessand so, yeah, I mean having
something that I know, like Ialready can tell you guys during
my period week, I justautomatically dose sepia.
I don't even guess, I don'teven play around with it.
It helps the rage the angerthat comes out.
So yeah, for sure, but that'sone thing that I will say about
homeopathy is that it has givenme my power back to feel like I
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no longer have to sit in thesefeelings and that I do have a
solution.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, that's the thing, right, I think homeopathy
has allowed me, when feelingscome up right, they don't get
stuck, they'll move throughright.
So the somatic techniques areso much more effective because,
well A, I just feel freer to dothem, to be in my body and to be
myself.
But it's so much easier to moveemotion through my body using
the somatic techniques.
Now, the body scan and theawareness right, like being able
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to articulate like, oh, I'mholding my breath, right, when
you were just now body scanningand I was like, oh, I'm holding
my breath, I'm going to breathewith her, okay, oh, I always do
that and if you're someone thatdisassociates, you're always
numbing, you're always holdingyour breath and it's, it's held
and like.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What I find is that I usually hold it down here in my
stomach so it results indigestive issues and like all
kinds of crap that like comes upin here that manifests in all
of these autoimmune diseases.
You know that are really justmy stress coming to the surface.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's one of the very cool byproducts of our
program.
Right Is and we've had this onthe docket to maybe record an
episode about like, divorcerecovery and autoimmune disease
because, like, as a naturalbyproduct of being in our
program, it is more likely thannot that your autoimmune issues
will go into remission.
Yeah, yeah, as mine did, asyours have, as you're right,
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like it's yeah, so remarkablefor sure.
How about a little vagalbreathing?
Like, if we all just do alittle like intentional
breathing together as a group,it'll be co-regulating for our
nervous systems.
And so a vagal breath we havean episode on this, episode
number I don't know, but vagalbreathing is where you take a
nice deep inhale into your core,right, so you want it to touch
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that diaphragm.
The diaphragm is what signalsthe vagus nerve.
And then, where your exhale islonger than your inhale and
something about that exhalebeing longer nice, slow, steady,
long exhale allows the nervoussystem to perceive that it's
actually safe, because so oftenour reticular activating systems
are just scanning theenvironment for threats and we
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perceive threats are threateningeven when they're not right.
Like, oh, I'm hanging out on anInstagram live.
I feel threatened, I'm holdingmy breath Like there's nothing
threatening happening right now.
Right, we're hanging out withsome cool people on the IG, so
let's take some big breaths,cool.
So everybody at their own pace.
But just a nice big inhale,maybe a little hold at the top,
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maybe let your shoulders go andthen a nice slow exhale.
Yes, already I felt a nicerelaxation response.
Nice big inhale, we'll hold atthe top, a nice long exhale.
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If you're sitting there rightnow and you haven't taken some
breaths or you haven't movedyour body, like pop up right,
like let's move together.
What is your body asking for?
What is it?
What is it saying?
It needs to move the emotion,to get unstuck right, like so
often when we're recovering fromemotional things and we feel
stuck in life and we don't know.
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You know what to do next orwhere to go or how to make a
decision.
You know what we do in the body, we do in life, what we do in
the body, we do in mind, what wedo in our right.
So, like, let's move.
You know and trust that the moreyou just listen to what your
body is asking for, the moreyou're going to improve the
relationship between your body,mind and spirit and the more
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you're going to be able to betapped into your intuition and
you're going to know frompracticing none of this stuff
comes overnight, right, but frompracticing all of these things
together.
None of the women in this roomcame to these things overnight.
It's been a journey, it'sbecome a lifestyle and it's
become a joy to live this waytogether.
I think we're living in the waythat we were designed to live
and move and love, and I thinkthe world would have us, you
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know, buy more supplements andmore wrinkle cream, and I'd
rather like laugh and own myhealth, whatever, and pay
attention to what your body'ssaying.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I think that women don't do that.
We would rather just push itall down.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh, yeah, absolutely like one of my earliest things,
when I was recovering fromdivorce and I was a therapist,
right was like, yeah, like howoften did I have to pee?
And I would hold it.
I would just hold it and holdit in deference to like whatever
session I had next or whateverthing I had to take care of, or
I wouldn't eat when I was hungryor I wouldn't you know.
It's like, yeah, just listeningto my body.
(24:36):
So it's interesting if I'mtapping in right now, like I
feel like I got pretty connectedthere when we did some vagal
breathing, but I, you know, wescheduled a whole Instagram live
today from 3 PM to 10 PM.
It's a lot of, it's a lot of askfrom our bodies and from our
minds, and I knew that when wewe talked about this, like
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building in these little somaticmoments, it was going to help
us function better through this.
I actually feel like I couldyawn a little right now, which
I'm going to go with, because itmeans my nervous system is
discharging, and so what are theexpectations I had of us as a
team today?
To perform right.
(25:17):
So much of how we live life isso performative and I didn't
want this to be that I wanted usto connect with you.
I wanted us to you know, likewe produce a podcast every week,
right, but this is sort of likepodcast production live.
It's super cool, right.
It's authentic.
We're just here with you and Idon't want it to be performative
, and so I could feel how mynervous system maybe slipped
(25:40):
into a little of that, right,and just coming back to like,
hey, let me be honest withmyself.
What's going on in this moment?
What's my body asking for?
Just this, mom's way, asproducer Joy calls it, feels so
good.
Yeah, so to anybody who's livewith us right now, if you scan
your body, what are you feeling?
Is it hot?
Is it cold?
Is it tight?
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Is it burning?
Is it sharp?
I don't know what are some ofthe words you find, tiffany,
when you do a body scan.
What are some common ones foryou usually?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
it's.
I'm hot, hot, hot.
My pulse is quickening.
My brain is starting to feelfoggy.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I can't formulate my thoughts, yeah Triggered brain
fog.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, my mouth gets very dry.
Um, I started to feel sick andnauseous.
You know, the problem is my.
My body used to signal and itstill does a great job, but I
hit my snooze button so muchduring my life that now I really
have to pay attention.
And I think that most women arelike that, where we have just
been subjected to situations forso long that we've hit snooze
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on.
Now we don't trust ourselves toknow what's right, we don't
trust our bodies, we don'tlisten to it, and if our body
does sound an alarm, we questionit.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, it's really a thing you know instead of just
trusting it Well and how oftendoes the medical community
gaslight us Like I don't know?
Your labs look normal.
You must be fine.
Yeah, like I'm not fine, yeah,yeah.
So yeah, movement, movement,movement, right, the semantics
is so, so, so powerful.
There are a lot of things withneck and emotion, right.
I'm just going to say there'sso much to do with suppressed
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emotion and the body, and so Icannot say enough for doing
really good trauma work, reallygood trauma, informed, somatic
internal family systems,homeopathic work, like that's
how, why we built our 12 monthprogram the way that we did,
that it's so personalized to beable to clear all this shit
that's just built up in yourbody the emotions, the toxins,
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the negative beliefs that havebuilt up in your body and in
your subconscious mind, anddoing this work just will clear
all of that out.
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Okay, here's the truth abouttrying to keep it all together.
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We've been told our whole livesyou need to calm down or just
be nice or just let it go.
But let's be real.
Where does all that swallowedfrustration actually go?
In just a minute, we're goingto talk about what happens when
you hold onto it all and how tofinally let it out in a way that
feels safe and powerful, andthen we're going to take a look
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at the ways your body is talkingand assess whether or not
you're being a good listener.
You might think the stress isin your head, but the tight jaw,
the heavy chest, thedebilitating exhaustion is all
trying to tell you something andbefore this episode ends, we're
going to talk about how todecode those signals to give
your body exactly what it needsto feel lighter, calmer and free
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.
Let's dig in.
So we talked about adding asomatic element to our day today
because it's such an important,you know, conversation about,
especially for women.
I think about how to move,stuck emotion and energy.
But even just from theperspective of how much we sit I
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sit all day at work and it'snot good for our bodies, it's
not good for our circulation,it's not good for our nervous
systems.
Oftentimes, one of the things Ido in session with clients
there's a whole host of somatictools that I do in session with
clients there's a whole host ofsomatic tools that I use in
session, but one of them,especially when I'm trying to
help people access emotionallywhen they tend towards
dissociation is the ear massage.
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So our ears, all, all, like theentire ear structure and around
our ears, is directly tied toour vagus nerve, which is the
information superhighway in ournervous system and so when we're
feeling stressed or wound up ordissociated, numb or upset,
massaging our ears is a verypowerful way to immediately
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start to shift the nervoussystem.
So I have such an amazing jobthat when I sit with clients and
I say, okay, and now we'regoing to do some ear massage,
and I just start literally witha decent amount of pressure like
not so much that causes pain,right, but a decent amount of
pressure just really rubbing inall these sort of crevices my
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ears feel hot right now.
And it's because I have a lotof nervous system activation.
Right, when we're engaging withpeople or we're presenting
something, we do get somenervous system activation.
It's just how life works, right.
If I was in full rest anddigest, like nothing would be
happening, right.
So because I'm here and I'mthinking and I'm juggling things
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, I'm activated and I can feelmy ears hot.
So by doing this ear massage itreally starts to downshift the
nervous system and what I findwhen I do this in session with
clients is I will feel a yawn,start to build and then there
will be like mutual yawningright.
But it really does create forfolks who are feeling a bit
frozen or a bit dissociated or abit overstimulated or stressed.
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This can help them land in thesession.
It can help them process things.
If there's something that'sparticularly difficult to
process, if we're having somereally extreme releasing in the
session, it can help bring waterto that fire.
So this is just a tool.
See, it's hard to talk and yawnand do ear massage.
So if this isn't a thing thatyou do like, I do ear massage.
So if this isn't a thing thatyou do like, let's start doing
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this all the time right, it'ssomething you can do in a
meeting.
It's something you could do,you know, at the game or in car
line or you know.
It's a great nervous systemtool to just be taking really
good care of yourself.
So from a nervous systemperspective, our nervous systems
are supposed to be like rubberbands.
They're supposed to be able torespond appropriately when
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stressed and then go back to aplace of peace when not under
stress.
And most people in our culturetoday we're just stretched all
the time right and we don'tdownshift.
Our nervous systems don't comeback to this place of
restfulness and it's why we haveso many digestive issues and
why we are so stuck andtraumatized and wound up and
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stressed out and anxious andangry.
So the ear massage is one I'vebeen leaning on a lot lately and
one I love, but one of theother ones I love is going to
feel a little more shocking.
So something that I will oftendo in between session, or just
like, let's say, I wake up onthe wrong side of the bed, or
let's say, you know, something Ifeel like has not gone my way,
(05:29):
I have found, because I havesuch a tendency towards
dissociation, I really benefitfrom fully discharging any sort
of emotion that I amexperiencing or would tend to
suppress or want to dissociate.
And also, from an astrologicalperspective, I am like a double
air fire sign.
So for me, like I'm just very,very, very cerebral, so for me
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to get into the body and actemotions out physically is
really really, really important.
So oftentimes, right, I will dothis.
Producer Joy calls this themommy rock.
Is that what you call it?
The rock Sway, mom's sway.
So I may start like this, butI'm really going to be listening
to my body and what it's askingfor.
So this mom's sway is actuallyvery, very nervous system
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regulating and grounding and itcan just help the nervous system
sense that, okay, I am safe inthis moment and, let's say,
there's something that I'mreally pissed off about.
I will get really, really intothat emotional expression and I
will act out what I wish I couldhave said or what I wish I
could have done in that momentthat was deemed not appropriate
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and, I think, to all the womenin the room we can really really
relate and resonate to.
There's so much aboutdischarging emotion that is
judged as not appropriate in oursociety and in this world and
for those of us that work behinda desk, we're not properly
discharging that emotion out ofour bodies and then it piles up
and it turns into disease and soI will grunt, growl, groan,
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yell like, scream things.
I will not do that to you rightnow, but I will absolutely when
I am away from the situation.
We'll make sure I complete thatemotional experience and I will
pair it with things like no, no, no, right.
I will literally physically actout boundary setting or
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expression or like what I wish Icould have said, and I have
found that to be just absolutelya game changer in terms of how
I go to sleep that night or howI transition into spending time
with my family in a day, how Iwake up the next morning, I will
absolutely feel such a reliefand I will just go and go and go
until I'm either exhausted or Ifeel a shift right, and I
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finally feel like, oh, thatfeels really, really better.
So just know that when you'refeeling feelings, or you're
thinking feelings, or you'refrustrated or stuck or whatever,
right that even just startingwith this mom's way is so good
and then starting to giveyourself permission to welcome
an emotion and listen to yourbody and what it's asking for,
right, if it's asking for no, ifit's asking for no, if it's
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asking for a hug, or you knowit's acting, asking to stretch a
particular way.
I will tell you there's oneother thing that I do a lot
somatically throughout the day.
I have a foam roller, I have afoam roller downstairs this one
is aggressive and I have a foamroller upstairs that's less
aggressive.
But I do a lot of foam rollingto really upregulate circulation
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and emotional processing,grounding in general, and I will
absolutely concentrate onrolling this on my back, so I
put it on the floor and I rollmy back up and down, and so it's
a little like self chiropractic, right, but also it helps keep
my heart open because as we getstressed and our nervous system
gets dysregulated, we start to,without even realizing it, close
(08:50):
off our heart centers, rightwhen we just have the onslaught
of content that we experience ina day, even from just scrolling
Instagram, absolutely yourheart can close because you get
triggered by whether it's newscontent, political content, the
sufferings in the world.
You saw that that lady that youreally wanted to be friends
with went on vacation and shedidn't invite you, and so when I
foam, roll up and down my backand allow my heart to open, I
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just find that that is a reallygood maintenance tool for me
somatically and to keep the flowgoing in my spine, in my
nervous system and in my heartcenter.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So we're going to do a somatic break and we're going
to do the one of the easiestthings you can do.
Oh, I love an easy thing right,okay, so everybody has pillows,
everybody has something in mold, everybody has a bedroom pillow
, something something so theeasiest thing you can do is
really drop into the feelingthat you're struggling with
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Sometimes.
You can't do it automaticallyLike you can't.
You can't throw things at thegrocery store, you can't scream,
you can't stop your feet, youcan't throw a tantrum in the
grocery store because a youmight get arrested people right.
People would look at you right.
So go home and then putyourself back in that spot until
you connect with it you knowwhat?
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that you connect and you getangrier and you start
perseverating on what you shouldhave said or you could have
said, and then you throw thepillow on the floor and just now
I got chills right, so you putit on the floor, you can fun
fact women in a sepia state arebetter from violent motion.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Ah, so like, where are sepia qualifications?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
here makes a lot of sense, just connecting all the
dots today.
And as you do this, you willfeel yourself release that anger
, like you don't hold onto itanymore, like it's like oh, that
person who made me mad at thegrocery store or hurt my
feelings or whatever activatedpart happened which was a bad
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day.
And it had nothing to do withme and it didn't Right.
Other people have parts You'rejust a victim of somebody else's
form right.
So like get the chills, moveyour shoulders, move your neck.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Do you ever scream things when you're throwing your
pillow?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't because I have neighbors.
I like screaming in the woodswhen it's not necessarily picked
up.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I love this one too.
Yes, obviously.
So I'm a big fan of adding thegrunt or the growl, or the yell.
Yeah, even if it's Sometimes,I'll be in the shower and I'll
make some pretty weird noises.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's like getting it out right.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Whatever it is.
Also, humming is such apowerful one.
I'll hum a lot in the shower orI'll I don't know vocalizing
while I throw a pillow.
It's just up levels.
It it's an excellent tool.
You know, I we have somebody,actually one of our favorite
listeners not that we havefavorite listeners.
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Podcasters don't have favoritelisteners.
What's wrong with you, Dawn?
One of our favorite listenerssent me a text message today.
Also, if we don't DM onInstagram, like come on folks,
like send me a DM.
She texted today and said herkiddo did some pillow throwing
because her kid watched herpillow throw recently.
And this is a kid, a child, whohas had trouble with anger
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management for a very long timeand went to pick up a pillow
recently.
And I think it's just soempowering for any person to
know that they can manage theiremotions.
I think we very often,especially in this very
polarized country where we justseem to have such big feelings
about everything and don't seemto feel like we can manage them
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Right, but to be able to do so,it's a.
It's very empowering, yeah,yeah, yeah, Very relieving.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I I'm sure this is probably very relatable but like
when my kids were younger, Iwould just ignore their tantrums
.
I would step over them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I would do.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Because, like they're getting out and they're fine.
Now I encourage my 10 year old,bigger, bigger, like, set your
feet, like you know my, my 10year old Bigger Stomp their feet
Bigger.
I can't stomp her Like stompyour feet.
Like you know, my 10 year oldhad a very heartbreaking
situation the other day and shewas just so and she was feeling
so much shame and she was justin her little head.
So you know, just getting herto move her body and stomp and
anger and like.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, because we get so in our head, right, like when
you had my kiddo the otherweekend back in Savannah, right,
and she was feeling all thefeelings about being separated,
yeah, and I had her get up anddo jumping jacks, right.
And then all of a sudden she'sgiggling she shifted so fast.
Somatics, somatics.
We've adopted the jumping jacksas well, but also I gave her a
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random number of jumping jacksto do, because when the brain is
trying to do math, it also it'sgoing to move from the lower
brain, stem right triggeredbrain into the top brain, and so
I gave her a super randomnumber.
I think I said 37, because whenyou're right, it's like what?
And then it just it takes youout of whatever you're feeling.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So Dawn knows this very well.
Joy's learning this about me aswell.
I am the disassociation queen.
In my past, through my journey,through my healing journey, my
favorite way to deal with myproblems would be to completely
just shut down and disassociate.
I had a really hard timedropping into my body.
I had a really hard timefeeling big feelings because my
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managers which we will cover ina little bit in IFS as soon as I
started feeling a feeling, theywould come in and save the day
and they'd be like nope, we'regoing to protect her and take
her over here and she's just notgoing to feel anything.
So to me, my favorite somatictechnique right now is body
scanning.
So this has given me theself-awareness to where, if I'm
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in a situation where I feel likeI'm starting to become
triggered, I immediately justdrop into my body and just take
a quick moment and I'm likewhere am I feeling this?
Am I hot in my chest?
Is my pulse quickening?
Am I starting to feel fuzzy andlightheaded?
Normally that's the cue thatI'm about to disassociate is
when my mind and my thoughtsjust stop completely and I just
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go blank.
It protects me from feeling thebig emotions and then I move
into fight flight mode, so Iwill usually like hang out in
the corner by myself or I wantto leg it the hell out of there.
So what I've started doing isjust taking a breath, just
really going inside and sayingokay, I'm feeling these big
emotions right now.
So what are they feeling likeinside, you know, and how are
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they presenting?
I had a lot of health issuesprior to starting homeopathy and
doing this, because my stresswas actually manifesting in my
body in physical ways.
I had things that were showingup on tests medically that were
very scary.
I had to go through a lot ofvery scary tests because of the
physical signs I was showing.
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My doctor at the time had putme on six antibiotics.
Nothing was touching anything,any of my symptoms, and so I
started using homeopathy withDawn and I started being very
aware of my stress level becausewhat I started noticing was I
felt okay, but clearly my bodywas telling me it's not so.
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If you feel like you're okay inyour mind and you kind of feel
calm, but you're still feelinglike these physical signs of
stress, tiredness, exhaustion,fogginess that's your body
telling you that something'swrong.
It's not so.
I would just encourage everyoneto be able to really take a
little bit of time, drop in,check in with yourself and ask
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what does it feel like in mybody when this is happening to
me?
Can I catch this?
And so it starts giving youthis self-awareness to where I
know when I'm about to trigger,to the point where my body is
about to shut down andeverything else is about to take
over.
It's helped me tremendously instaying very present in the
moment.
Sometimes, if I feel myselfgoing out, I'll start to look at
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things around the room and I'llstart to name them just to keep
myself very, very present.
So the key to preventingdisassociation is staying
present in the moment.
A lot of times I will take anobject and I'll pass it back and
forth through both of my hands,because the part of the brain
that activates yourdisassociation cannot work at
the same time that you're doingsome sort of physical activity.
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So it will actually stop mefrom disassociating as well.
So a couple of my favoritetechniques.
For any of my other fellowsisters out there that just love
to shut off their feelings, Isee you a couple of cool
techniques that I like to try.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You know, when I was in an advanced EMDR training
they did that ball techniquewhere we would throw it back and
forth.
Like you know, between you andI same thing.
It's something about having tohave spatial reasoning or
spatial awareness.
Yeah, it like inhibitsdissociation.
So throwing a ball back andforth right, like a squishy ball
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back and forth across the roomis a great somatic technique.
Yeah To to regulatedissociative tendencies.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So being able to be mindful of stress too.
And then the homeopathy.
It was crazy because in a yearlater, when I went back to my
doctor to rescreen, I had noneof my symptoms.
Um, like some of the massesthat had formed in my body were
completely gone.
Um and I was not having as manyflares or anything like that.
So it's definitely I would tellyou to take charge of your
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health.
That's one of the things and inpart of finding your tribe is
like finding a really gooddoctor that's going to listen to
you and is going to advocatefor you.
This was the first time that Iwent to see my doctor two weeks
ago.
It was a brand new doctor.
I wanted to try her.
She was kind of she's like anosteopath, like natural.
You know, like I was, like I wasso excited I knew I was going
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to love her right away, Causeshe came in the room and she's
sitting Indian style and she waslike all up in my face.
Oh, my goodness, that's amazing.
Oh God, she was so great, Right.
So like it was the first timeI've ever been asked in an
appointment what homeopathicremedies are you on?
That's amazing.
Yes, Like she cared, she wantedto know why do you take this
and what does this do for youand why are you?
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And again, going back to thewhole empowerment thing, you
know I'm very sepia.
I carry a lot of masculineenergy because I had to do all
the things as a single mom andso it's very hard for me to tap
into my womanly nurturing part.
My daughter gets that veryquickly with me, but not a lot
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of other people get my softnessand so, yeah, I mean having
something that I know, like Ialready can tell you guys during
my period week, I justautomatically dose sepia.
I don't even guess, I don'teven play around with it.
It helps the rage the angerthat comes out.
So yeah, for sure, but that'sone thing that I will say about
homeopathy is that it has givenme my power back to feel like I
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no longer have to sit in thesefeelings and that I do have a
solution.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, that's the thing, right, I think homeopathy
has allowed me, when feelingscome up right, they don't get
stuck, they'll move throughright.
So the somatic techniques areso much more effective because,
well A, I just feel freer to dothem, to be in my body and to be
myself.
But it's so much easier to moveemotion through my body using
the somatic techniques.
Now, the body scan and theawareness right, like being able
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to articulate like, oh, I'mholding my breath, right, when
you were just now body scanningand I was like, oh, I'm holding
my breath, I'm going to breathewith her, okay, oh, I always do
that and if you're someone thatdisassociates, you're always
numbing, you're always holdingyour breath and it's, it's held
and like.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What I find is that I usually hold it down here in my
stomach so it results indigestive issues and like all
kinds of crap that like comes upin here that manifests in all
of these autoimmune diseases.
You know that are really justmy stress coming to the surface.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's one of the very cool byproducts of our
program.
Right Is and we've had this onthe docket to maybe record an
episode about like, divorcerecovery and autoimmune disease
because, like, as a naturalbyproduct of being in our
program, it is more likely thannot that your autoimmune issues
will go into remission.
Yeah, yeah, as mine did, asyours have, as you're right,
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like it's yeah, so remarkablefor sure.
How about a little vagalbreathing?
Like, if we all just do alittle like intentional
breathing together as a group,it'll be co-regulating for our
nervous systems.
And so a vagal breath we havean episode on this, episode
number I don't know, but vagalbreathing is where you take a
nice deep inhale into your core,right, so you want it to touch
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that diaphragm.
The diaphragm is what signalsthe vagus nerve.
And then, where your exhale islonger than your inhale and
something about that exhalebeing longer nice, slow, steady,
long exhale allows the nervoussystem to perceive that it's
actually safe, because so oftenour reticular activating systems
are just scanning theenvironment for threats and we
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perceive threats are threateningeven when they're not right.
Like, oh, I'm hanging out on anInstagram live.
I feel threatened, I'm holdingmy breath Like there's nothing
threatening happening right now.
Right, we're hanging out withsome cool people on the IG, so
let's take some big breaths,cool.
So everybody at their own pace.
But just a nice big inhale,maybe a little hold at the top,
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maybe let your shoulders go andthen a nice slow exhale.
Yes, already I felt a nicerelaxation response.
Nice big inhale, we'll hold atthe top, a nice long exhale.
(22:53):
If you're sitting there rightnow and you haven't taken some
breaths or you haven't movedyour body, like pop up right,
like let's move together.
What is your body asking for?
What is it?
What is it saying?
It needs to move the emotion,to get unstuck right, like so
often when we're recovering fromemotional things and we feel
stuck in life and we don't know.
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You know what to do next orwhere to go or how to make a
decision.
You know what we do in the body, we do in life, what we do in
the body, we do in mind, what wedo in our right.
So, like, let's move.
You know and trust that the moreyou just listen to what your
body is asking for, the moreyou're going to improve the
relationship between your body,mind and spirit and the more
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you're going to be able to betapped into your intuition and
you're going to know frompracticing none of this stuff
comes overnight, right, but frompracticing all of these things
together.
None of the women in this roomcame to these things overnight.
It's been a journey, it'sbecome a lifestyle and it's
become a joy to live this waytogether.
I think we're living in the waythat we were designed to live
and move and love, and I thinkthe world would have us, you
(23:59):
know, buy more supplements andmore wrinkle cream, and I'd
rather like laugh and own myhealth, whatever, and pay
attention to what your body'ssaying.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I think that women don't do that.
We would rather just push itall down.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh, yeah, absolutely like one of my earliest things,
when I was recovering fromdivorce and I was a therapist,
right was like, yeah, like howoften did I have to pee?
And I would hold it.
I would just hold it and holdit in deference to like whatever
session I had next or whateverthing I had to take care of, or
I wouldn't eat when I was hungryor I wouldn't you know.
It's like, yeah, just listeningto my body.
(24:36):
So it's interesting if I'mtapping in right now, like I
feel like I got pretty connectedthere when we did some vagal
breathing, but I, you know, wescheduled a whole Instagram live
today from 3 PM to 10 PM.
It's a lot of, it's a lot of askfrom our bodies and from our
minds, and I knew that when wewe talked about this, like
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building in these little somaticmoments, it was going to help
us function better through this.
I actually feel like I couldyawn a little right now, which
I'm going to go with, because itmeans my nervous system is
discharging, and so what are theexpectations I had of us as a
team today?
To perform right.
(25:17):
So much of how we live life isso performative and I didn't
want this to be that I wanted usto connect with you.
I wanted us to you know, likewe produce a podcast every week,
right, but this is sort of likepodcast production live.
It's super cool, right.
It's authentic.
We're just here with you and Idon't want it to be performative
, and so I could feel how mynervous system maybe slipped
(25:40):
into a little of that, right,and just coming back to like,
hey, let me be honest withmyself.
What's going on in this moment?
What's my body asking for?
Just this, mom's way, asproducer Joy calls it, feels so
good.
Yeah, so to anybody who's livewith us right now, if you scan
your body, what are you feeling?
Is it hot?
Is it cold?
Is it tight?
(26:00):
Is it burning?
Is it sharp?
I don't know what are some ofthe words you find, tiffany,
when you do a body scan.
What are some common ones foryou usually?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
it's.
I'm hot, hot, hot.
My pulse is quickening.
My brain is starting to feelfoggy.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I can't formulate my thoughts, yeah Triggered brain
fog.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, my mouth gets very dry.
Um, I started to feel sick andnauseous.
You know, the problem is my.
My body used to signal and itstill does a great job, but I
hit my snooze button so muchduring my life that now I really
have to pay attention.
And I think that most women arelike that, where we have just
been subjected to situations forso long that we've hit snooze
(26:42):
on.
Now we don't trust ourselves toknow what's right, we don't
trust our bodies, we don'tlisten to it, and if our body
does sound an alarm, we questionit.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, it's really a thing you know instead of just
trusting it Well and how oftendoes the medical community
gaslight us Like I don't know?
Your labs look normal.
You must be fine.
Yeah, like I'm not fine, yeah,yeah.
So yeah, movement, movement,movement, right, the semantics
is so, so, so powerful.
There are a lot of things withneck and emotion, right.
I'm just going to say there'sso much to do with suppressed
(27:14):
emotion and the body, and so Icannot say enough for doing
really good trauma work, reallygood trauma, informed, somatic
internal family systems,homeopathic work, like that's
how, why we built our 12 monthprogram the way that we did,
that it's so personalized to beable to clear all this shit
that's just built up in yourbody the emotions, the toxins,
(27:36):
the negative beliefs that havebuilt up in your body and in
your subconscious mind, anddoing this work just will clear
all of that out.
Dear Divorce Diary is a podcastby my coach, dawn.
You can find more atmycoachdawncom.
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