The Lady of Silence...And Violence (Episode 171)

In this killer episode, the Death in Entertainment crew dives mask-first into the chilling true story of Juana Barraza — a Mexican lucha libre wrestler who moonlighted as a serial killer. Known as The Lady of Silence, Barraza body-slammed her way into infamy by targeting elderly women across Mexico City. Was it a tragic backstory, a botched investigation, or just a lethal heel turn? Step into the ring as Kyle, Ben, and Jerii unravel one of the strangest double lives in true crime history. ¡Ay caramba!

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Episode Transcript

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She wore a pink lucha mask, answered to the Lady of Silence,
and body slammed her way throughMexico's wrestling circuit.
But outside the ring she had a very different finishing move.
Between the suplexes and silver capes.
Juana Barraza had a secret hobby, murdering elderly women.
This wasn't just one case. Mexico City had a full blown

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serial killer on its hands. Was it fame, she wanted justice,
or just a really bad heel turn? Either way, it's the most
terrifying tag team in history. Death and Entertainment This
week's Death and Entertainment starts now.
Live from Los Angeles. 911 What is your emergency?

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Here in Hollywood now. Two counts of murder.
Injury and death, Oh my God. Shocking new details.
That has stunned the entertainment world.
This makes me a little nervous. The hair stood up on my arms
just like in the movies. What do?
You call this thing anyway. Death in.
Entertainment. Greetings Dead O Universe, how
the heck are you? My name is Kyle Plouffe.

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And I'm Jerry Aquino. I am Ben Kissel, check us out
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Exciting. All right, today's topic, Oh my
Lord, this gal is dabbed the little old lady killer for a

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good reason. We're going to get into the
story of Juana Barza. No kayfabe here.
No kayfabe whatsoever. Let's let's get into it.
You want to give a more authentic reading of the name?
What? Is it?
It's Juana. Oh, Juana Barasa.
Oh sweet. Juana Baraza.

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Oh, very good, Kyle. Also known as the Lady of
Silence. Whoa.
Or the little old lady killer. Oh my God.
Yeah, I love that. She was.
Was she the little old lady thatwas killing or did she
specifically kill little old ladies?
Oh, good question. I guess we're going to find.
Out it will be answered in due time.
Yes we, yes we will. Juana Baraza is a former Mexican

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professional wrestler, con artist and convicted serial
killer whom the media nicknamed La Mata Viejitas.
La Mata Viejitas, the Little oldLady Killer.
Wow. Also, all wrestlers are con
artists. I know you're not really hitting
each other. Yeah.
Yeah, but she was, she was busy.She had a lot of things going

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on. Yeah, but ASA was convicted in
the murder of 16 elderly women throughout Mexico City.
Oh. Wow And committed dozens of
other crimes including burglary and robbery.
I mean, to be burgled by a pro wrestler?
Kind of cool. The repo man?
Move over, there's a new thief in town.

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Baraza targeted her elderly victims by either approaching
them in public or knocking on their doors, posing as a nurse
or a social worker from the local government.
Wow, that's messed. Up.
Not a knock you want on the door.
No, no, never. I would just be like, okay,
which one of you kids ratted? Yeah.
Seriously. Yeah.
Even when the government knocks on your door to quote UN quote

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help, that's not a good thing. At first she simply wore white
clothing to create the illusion,but eventually she obtained an
actual nurse's uniform to make her act more convincing.
You know who else wore white? Who?
All of the dudes from A Clockwork Orange.
Oh. Creepy.
They drank milk at the milk bar.Yeah, we didn't.
I didn't believe they were nurses.

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I wouldn't believe she's a nurse.
I don't want to be the janitor that has to clean the bathroom
at the milk bar. No, you got one of those
lactards and they're like, you guys and it's over.
Yeah. Me.
Good luck. Yikes.
Depending on the financial status of her victims, she would
gain their trust by offering things like massages.
OK, Hey, I just, I'm a stranger at your door.

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Can I? Can I rub up on you?
You know what you can. Actually ohh God can you please
there's a spot I just can't reach.
Or assistance in getting medications or welfare benefits.
So this is like a full service lunatic we got here.
Well. It's a full service person
taking advantage of older peoplethat can't help.

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Them, Yeah. Would you like a little massage
or can I get your medications for you or collect your money?
Scum baggery. Well yes, on all 2 and then the
third. I want to keep my cash, but
these massages ain't free. Never.
No. If the victim was caught off
guard, she would strangle them immediately.
So she just goes right in so. She'd open the door and she'd be

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like, look over there. They turn around.
It's a choking woman, right? What kind of massage is this?
It's a tight one. Yes, it is.
If not, she would physically overpower them first, often
using wrestling techniques she had learned for her from her
time in the ring. That's messed up.
And she is a woman, but I will say she looks very, very strong
and very, very scary. Oh, really?

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Yes, does an eye rig. That's illegal.
I'll move. That's an illegal move, ma'am.
Foul. It was very bizarre when all the
police officers, when the policeofficers investigating the crime
wore their ref jerseys, yeah. I didn't think.
I didn't think that was very appropriate.
Ring the bell. Ring the bell.
Like a dead body, they just keepon lifting the hand to see if he

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keeps dropping. 20 This is what She's dead, she's dead, she's
definitely. Dead.
She is dead. Although she carried a bag of
medical supplies as part of her disguise, she typically used her
hands or household items as ligatures to carry out the
killings. I mean, even a heroin addict
carries a carries a bag of medical supplies.
Yeah, for sure. Medical supplies is a pretty

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broad term, yeah. Yeah, seriously, Medical supply.
I could have band aids in my bagand be like, I have medical
supplies and a little bottle, a little bottle of vodka.
Oh, and back in the day, a little vial of cocaine.
There it is, the medical supplies.
Anesthetic. You're a regular old doctor,
Jerry. I got band aids and coke.
Call me Doctor Jerry. Could I get a massage?

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These items included everything from the victims scarves to
belts to bandanas and pantyhose items she would leave behind at
the scene. So she's messing with people.
She's like, I'm going to choke you out with your own pantyhose
and I'm going to leave it right there.
That's messing with people. That's like the opposite of like
a or is that more like? A Messing with investigators
because you're leaving behind your actual weapon.
That's how Brian Koburger got introuble.

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He is. Well then isn't that not messing
with them? Isn't that like playing it
stupid because your DNA is all over it?
Back, back in the deed, I don't think they were.
So they didn't have the DNA evidence.
I would just say if you're goingto strangle me with my
underwear, can you please, God, just get something out of the
dryer because I can't be having all that for.
Real. The embarrassment of being like,

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I'm sorry, yeah, I know. I don't know how to wipe my mom.
I just my brothers raised me. Looks like he was choked.
I think he just choked from the shit in it.
Yeah, I think. He died of embarrassment.
I mean, I told you guys that story when I wanted went into
the laundromat just before when she was still folding my
underwear. It was in Williamsburg,
Brooklyn, and she was holding them up and it was twice her

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size. And I walked in and she knew
they were mine. And I just immediately was like,
I'll come back cause for some reason I just want to imagine a
group of like animated rats foldall your laundry and then just
like singing in humming being like this guy must be cool.
But no, she was so disgusted. And I I was like, I know I
agree. I used to love dropping my
laundry off and just getting it.Just returned all folded up in

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New York City. But you never think about them
actually touching it. No, no, God forbid you lose a
vibrator in your laundry bag andyou forget about it.
Well, you're gonna wash that. You're gonna wash that yourself.
Well, I don't think. I don't think I ever got it
back. Oh, not that it happened to me,
of course. The guys go back brushing their
teeth with it. Oh my God.
After the murder. It's your vibrator.

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What you got? Going on down there, girl.
I happen to know that I if I tossed it in the laundry, it
means I didn't. Watch trust me I know my pussy
and it is disgusting. You don't want to.
You don't want to open up that can of worms.
Literally can of worms. Of flies.
Wow, oh boy. So after the murders, she would

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rob the victims of their money and valuables, keeping some
belongings for personal use and others as keepsakes.
So she really was a psycho. Yeah.
And the whole years. Were the same.
We'll get to it. The date of her earliest
confirmed murder was in 2002. OK.
Early 2000, we just missed Y2K. We all survived and now she's

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taking people out. OK wow, right.
People still shrouded in 911. Maybe the detectives aren't, so
they didn't make me. Stand wiping the suit off their
fucking faces. True, true.
Well, some of the sources trace her first killing back to the
late 1990s, so there is some dispute about if she actually
did kill these people in the late 90s and.

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You know, OK. Yeah, but it's confirmed she
did. She committed the killing in
2002. Got you?
Estimates of her total number ofvictims vary, with figures
ranging from between 42 and 48. People.
People. Old ladies.
Wow. Damn, yeah, there is so many
little lavalitas. I know.
This is super. Sad.
I'm just going to round it up tostraight 50.

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I'm going 50. Yeah, she killed 50.
Although she was only convicted of 16 murders, over 30 cases
remain unsolved but suspected. Wow.
She definitely did them. Yeah, why not?
She's just sitting in the the jail cell being like yeah I
definitely they didn't find those.
It's funny because if they dug like an inch over they would
have found like 3 more anyway. I mean, there might be one

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person who killed one of those 16.
It was just like, thank God they're gonna blame the late the
silent old lady killer. There could be copycat killers,
especially in Mexico. I feel like their investigation
techniques aren't as advanced. Maybe I.
Don't know you haven't seen. Nothing.
It's cartels fucking killing people all the time.
The people that run everything kill.
People, yeah, that's not that would be that would just give a

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lot more reason to. It's not a lack of
investigation, it's more of likea don't ask, don't tell.
Super corruption like gays in the military.
Will kill you. Yeah.
Mm. Hmm.
Authorities closed the investigation after Barraza's
invest after Barraza's arrest in2006.
Juana, Dianara. Bazara Samperio.

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OK. Sampario.
Yeah, Sampario. Hey, she was born December 27th,
1957 in Hidalgo, Where Hidalgo, OH.
Very got you. Very good, Kyle.
Yes. Located north of Mexico City,
her childhood was marked by extreme trauma.

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Her father, Trinidad Trinidad Brasa, was a police officer.
OK, so maybe she's she's got an inside guy that she can get away
with. Maybe she grew up around some
corrupt behaviors. Yes, could be.
You learn how to be a criminal when you're around cops.
Her mother, who's the son, Perio, she happened to be an
alcoholic sex worker. Oh, that means they met on the

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job. Oh, that's right.
He arrested her and he's like, I'll let you go if you fucking
do it for free. That's.
Cute. Sometimes you can marry a
customer. Yeah, sometimes.
If it's love. If it's love.
If it's love, if it's bail. Yeah, well, that is love.
That's a form of love, monetary love.
Three months after Juana's birth, who's to abandon her

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husband to begin an adulterous relationship?
The alcoholic prostitute left the family.
Left the cop husband. Oh my God.
I don't need any of this shit. Your little A+B ways and your 95
job. I'm a free woman there.
You. Go not, I don't cost free.
Yeah, no, it doesn't call. It's not, it's not free.

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I'm I'm free for myself. Free to charge a lot of money.
I'm charging you, yeah. You will pay.
Sounds like you did. So she ended up leaving this guy
for a man named Refugio. Oh, it's always refugio.
Refugio the refuser. A married man who would become
Juana's new stepfather. Oh wow, so they so the the cop

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dad was not really in the picture as much.
Wow, interesting. So maybe if he was, she would
have learned a little more rightfrom wrong.
And now she's learning wrong from Refugio.
Yeah, wrong from wrong. Yeah, he became the only father
figure in Juana's life. Wow.
As a child, Baraza learned to read and had a rocky
relationship with her mother, towhom she barely spoke with

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throughout her early years. It.
Sounds like her mother was a bitof a firecracker.
Yeah, she might have some mommy issues.
Yeah. Definitely.
Oh, elderly ladies killing her mother over and over and over
again could be things we only picture in our brains.
Not me, but all right. At the age of 12, Brasa's mother

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gave Juana away to a man in exchange for not one, not 2, but
trace cervesis. 03 beers is actually kind.
Of what? She gave her away for three
beers. 3 beers? Not even the case.
They better be 20 oz at least. Yeah, tall boys.
Right. 3 beers. That's not even enough to do

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anything, no. I don't understand, gave her.
What was this transaction? Was she at a bar?
Was she trying to get into a bar?
No, the man Jose Lugo kept WANNAfor four years.
Oh my God, that's fucked. Up.
That's more than one year for each beer.
That's bullshit. That's the main problem, yeah.

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You're right. Yeah, that's that's a little.
He just did math just now. That's really bad, yeah.
I just did trauma math. He did wait.
The beers, to the ears, are not adding.
Up. Yeah, You got one year for free.
Sure, every oz is one month, andthat's 12 ounces.
So yeah, you're sure. You know what?
By your math. By your disgusting Bostonian
math? Yeah, you're correct.
Jesus Christ. While she was in his custody,

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Barasa was repeatedly sexually abused and raped.
Shocker. Lugo impregnated her twice, once
when she was 13 and again at 16.Man.
This fucking chick never had a chance, right?
Both pregnancies resulted in miscarriages.
Lugo eventually returned Juana to her mother, where she.
You got a return policy on this.Yeah.

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Yeah, I want to see a receipt. I got the receipt.
Oh my God, Yeah. Oh God, there's nothing I I feel
like. Is it better to escape or is it
better to be returned? I would think that I would just
want to escape and never speak to the woman who sold me for
three beers. Yeah.
Seriously. And when she got back, she was

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tasked with raising the younger siblings that popped up after
she was sold for three beers. That is insane.
How does she not just fucking well?
I mean, she's a kid. Wow, that was so tough.
So nobody raised her and now shehas to raise a bunch of kids
because her mom's not doing shit.
After years of abuse? Yep.
And her mother eventually died of, shocker, some cirrhosis.

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Oh, cirrhosis. Yeah.
Juana finally left Hidalgo for anew life in Mexico City.
Let's go. Wow, I just I want to say I hope
it gets better for her but. I mean, it does get better for
her, just for her, sure. Yeah, yeah.
Now in Mexico City, Juana Barraza underwent several failed
marriages. Several.

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I believe that. Wow.
And from those several failed marriages, she had four
children. Wow.
Throughout the 1980s and 90s, asa single mother in her new home,
Barraza held a variety of jobs. She provided for her family
through a combination of housework, selling goods on the
street and occasionally minor theft.
Little hustler. Hopefully like the the the theft

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was minor, not that she was stealing minors.
She. Wasn't stealing minors, she got
stolen. She was not.
She got borrowed. Yes, and of course, Minor Theft.
That was what they were going tocall the band, but they went
with Minor Threat instead. Neighbors in the mostly middle
class neighborhood in which theylive described her children as
polite and sociable, which is great, and noted that Barraza

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herself was always friendly whenthey saw her in passing.
Yet she was most passionate about one thing more than
anything else. After taking a job as a popcorn
seller and wrestling arenas, Loraza became fascinated with
pro wrestling. Ohh, OK.
I love that. A popcorn salesman?
Yeah. Popcorn.
That's that ain't easy to do. No, not.

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We got caramel, we got butter, we got salted.
You gotta really hustle. Yeah, just they go with the
butter. Smell the butter.
I think you. Just pop, it pops and then you
just take it and. You have no idea.
That'll be $3. You think you're the only
popcorn popcorn seller on the beat?
No, there's a lot of folks out there you gotta compete with
what makes your popcorn better than their popcorn.

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Well, I have like the kettle corn stuff.
Now you're selling. Yeah, there you go.
See. You know how difficult it is
now. Oh yeah, yeah, that was a
harrowing 20 seconds. It was.
There's a style of professional wrestling in Mexico known as
Lucha libre. Lucha libre Lucha luras.
Whoa. I love lucha.

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So fun. Me and me and Ben actually went
to go see it live before Money in the Bank.
Amazing triple. It looked so fun.
Mr. Iguana. Yes.
The my favorite new wrestler. I love that.
Yes, he's dressed like an iguanaand he has a fake iguana.
Yeah. Is he a tail?
No, that falls. Off the iguana does.
Oh, he throws it up in the air and then it lands.
He has an actual iguana. Yeah, and then he attacked the

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iguana, gives him superpowers and he iguana attacks people.
It's a what? In the Power Rangers, Oh, it's.
Real. It's real.
Got it, Got it. Cool.
It's really fake. Got it.
Lucha libre typically involves epic battles.
Epic battles between costume fighters who are identified as
either technicos. Oh, those are the faces of the
good guys who play by all the. Rules all, right.

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Technicos. And the rudos, the heels are
villains who break them. Those are always the most fun,
yeah. Yeah, those are the ones you you
can really get into character. Yeah.
And it's always crazy because the good guys backstage are
usually the assholes and the badguys that are like in the ring
are usually like the most fun. That is usually how that works
out, yeah. Kind of works like that in all

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arts as well. That's.
Definitely. True.
Yeah. I feel like that just is, yeah.
The squeaky clean comedian who behind the scenes, is doing
nutty, nutty things. Rest in peace, Bob Saget.
Oh bad too. Many now.
He just had a foul mouth that. He did.
He had a dirty mouth. No, I know a lot of worse
comedians than. That yeah, Vince Champ I.

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Don't know who that is. He's in prison for raping a
bunch of girls. Well, that is not champ
behavior. No.
It's really not. In her spare time, she took to
training in the Mexican style ofmasked wrestling.
She was often seen in the front rows of established arenas and
also organized wrestling events for small town fiestas,
eventually getting in the ring herself.

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Hell yeah. Let's go and this.
Would technically be like a really nice healthy outlet for
her to work her shit out. Exactly.
Yeah, 'cause emotionally, I saw Paul Walker, whatever his name
is, he, he's an actor that has gotten into wrestling and he
said emotional pain is way worsethan physical pain, 'cause
they're like, how do you get thrown through a table?
He's like, it's way worse to getrejected in the entertainment

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industry than to get power bombed to a fucking table.
Yeah. It's just like people like
getting tattooed over going to therapy.
Yeah. Hollywood problems, you know I
got them. I just got a tattoo.
Nice, yeah. Her wrestling persona would be
known in English as the Lady of Silence, La Dama de Silencio, La

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Dama Nice and Alia. She chose herself in reference
to her own shy, silent personality.
Interesting. This is why you can never trust
the shy people. Introverts.
They're up to something. They're.
Quiet ones, man, you got to lookout for them.
They're plotting. They are plotting.
You think the people who did 9/11 were loud?
I don't think so. I don't think anyone said that.

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We don't know. We don't.
Know one thing about those 911 terrorists?
They were fucking loud. Yeah.
We we heard them the entire time.
Well, that doesn't they never shut the fuck up.
Doesn't fit the description verywell, does it?
No it doesn't. No it.
Doesn't so Juana Barraza performed as a Ruda or a
villain? There's a photo that exists

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online of her character, the Lady of Silence.
Dressed in a pink one piece bodysuit with white tiger
stripes, boots, a multi colored face mask and short shocking
blonde hair, she looks. Awesome.
Yeah, it's pretty sick, dude. She sounds like a pink Power
Ranger. That's her right there, that is.
So what I was? Thinking she's.
But she looks like The Ultimate Warrior.

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She's buff. She's.
Buff as hell. What the Pink Power Ranger
should fucking look like. Yep, her mask is dope, She's got
butterflies everywhere. She's got a championship belt.
This chick is awesome. I mean, he will get into it,
yeah. At this point, she's pretty
good, yeah. She's had nothing but fucking
trauma. She's trying to make her way in
the world and she's doing it. On her own terms.

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Probably not the best Mike skills given her nickname, but
yeah. Yeah.
In 1995, while still working as a luchadora, she gave birth to
her fourth child. Wow, she was pregnant and
wrestling. She was good.
You wrestle, you're fucking, you're throwing things around
and you're like, Nah, I can try to still jump.
I'm, I'm just seven months pregnant.

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I'll make a jump. Every match is a handicap match
at that point, pretty much. 21.5against one.
Yep, struggling financially after the birth?
Wanna began shoplifting items from stores this eventually
escalated to breaking into homesby 1996, she and a friend
Aracelli Tapia Martinez, so she.Did have friends?

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At least this one who had 18 names, That's good.
She they both devised A scheme to target elderly victims.
Well, that's not fun. Sometimes a group of friends
should never be together. Yeah, there's everyone has that
one friend where when you get together it's just nothing good
happens. But you guys like?
Each other, that's all my friends from back home.
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely, that's a lot of my old friends.

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You see, all any of my old friends were getting arrested.
Yeah, pretty much nothing but scoundrel activity.
Right, for some reason with Terry, I just like dumpsters
fire or we just. No idea, we just get together
and we just fucking just lighters everywhere.
We. Think it's funny?
We laugh. Fucking that guys, the man.
I would never do that. I watch him do it though.
Yeah. Disguised in white clothing to

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appear as nurses, they would gain entry into the homes of
elderly individuals living aloneto rob them.
I mean, if you're an elderly person, that's the last thing on
your mind probably is that thesetwo gals are gonna rob you.
Right. And it sucks, and it just sucks
to be put in that position whereyou're struggling and you're
trying to do everything the right way.
And it sounds like she did. She's been hustling left to

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right. She's been wronged from the
start, and now she's just like, fuck it, man.
Time to start. Time to start playing this
rigged fucking game we call the system.
Yeah, the world wronged me. I'm gonna wrong back.
Yeah. Unbeknownst to Baraza, Tapia was
romantically involved with a corrupt federal police officer.
Oh no, a narc. Yep.

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Even worse, the two plotted to extort Baraza.
Fucking even worse. Yeah, I can't catch a break.
Yeah. Seriously, this guys name was
Moises Flores Dominguez. Ohh.
So moist. Moist flowers.
Dominican. Wait, moist is a name?

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Moises. Moises.
Yeah, but Moises is a name. Yeah, there was a great baseball
player, Moist Salou. Oh, yeah, of course.
Great. Bless you.
Very good. Nice.
The hits keep on. Coming, you know the two
plotted. Like I said, they to extort
Baraza, this guy Moises confronted her after she carried
out a burglary on her own and hethreatened her with arrest

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unless she paid him 12,000 pesos.
That's crazy. Sounds like a lot.
I mean it is, especially in her shoes.
It's 640 US. Well.
Yeah. It's just, it's, it's still,
it's 12,000 pesos that she doesn't have at all.
And he probably, and he knows that, yeah.
Hence the robberies. Yeah, in the year 2000, Barossa
suffered a spinal injury and hadto retire from lucha libre.

(24:50):
And we must do this. Oh no.
In the year 2000, Oh my God, it's Conan O'Brien.
Yeah, I got it. Thank you.
Yeah. At the time, she was only
earning between 300 and 500 pesos per match, so 16 to $26 in
US currency. So not great.
So her financial situation had grown drastically dire.

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Yeah, they're not really taking care of her with the company
there. So starting around 1998, Mexico
City saw a rise in the violent killings of elderly individuals,
which led the media to speculateabout a possible serial killer.
Damn. Disguised as a social worker or
city nurse in order to gain the victim's trust, they nicknamed
the suspect the Little Old Lady Killer L.

(25:33):
You want to say it? Yes.
The L suggested that they believed the killer was male.
Despite the pattern, local police dismissed the idea that
the crimes were connected and several people were arrested for
individual murders. As they do, cops are obsessed
with all of this individual killings.

(25:54):
I kind of like the idea of just one person as opposed to.
Everyone. In each case, the victim was an
elderly woman, lived alone and the crime scene showed no signs
of breaking and entering, meaning the victims always
allowed their killer inside. Man, they were.
They were duped. They were trusting, much like
vampires. Oh, do not.

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Murderers have to be invited inside in order to commit the.
Crimes. May I come in?
The answer is no. We can have the conversation
right here where we stand. Yeah.
And Jerry had to explain that part of sinners to me.
Oh. You're so stupid I don't want to
talk about. God, let's not.
Yeah, we're not breaking up the band over your lack of
understanding of vampire lore, which is unbelievably well

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known. I'm not a fucking.
Bird insane dude. Why did they just stand at the
door the whole time they're justloitering?
Literally the entire plot of Sinners was lost on Kyle it.
Was crazy how much I like. The music, I didn't think the
guys were so bad. I was.
I'm like, just go inside. OK.
We're going to move on. OK.
Juana Braza Her first confirmed killing took place on November

(27:00):
25th, 2020 O2 2002 when she murdered Maria de la Luz
Gonzalez Anaya, 64 years old. Damn, so she popped?
At this point she's like, that is fucking enough of this shit.
Right. She's like, it's the new
Millennium, it's a new me. I can't even wrestle anymore.
I got these back problems. Like I got.

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I got all these kids running around.
I got this dude extorting me. Why?
Because I trusted a friend. Right time to rob.
Time to kill. She is a lot like what Eddie
Guerrero, the pro wrestler, saidthat he did, which is Rob.
She didn't steal, she took it toheart.
After entering Gonzalez home, a remark from the victim angered

(27:46):
Baraza, prompting her to physically assault and then
strangle Gonzalez to death with her bare hands.
Wow, she does seem like the kindof person who you don't know how
you made them mad, but you know they're mad.
Oh yeah. Yeah, she just snapped.
One little thing where it's like, hey, do you wanna get
waffles? And the next thing you know,
they're screaming at you. And you didn't know she got hit
by the waffle iron when she was 10.

(28:06):
And it's just the whole thing islike, right, I don't know what I
did. I am sorry.
And then you apologize. And she's like, that's what my
dad said, too. And then she kills you.
And right, right, right, right, right.
Wow, wow. I'm finding some things some
similarities here with myself and this whole wow.
There's always similarities between us people and people who
killed because aren't they all just human too?
Oh. Yes, yes, the answer is yes,

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they are. In December, the police released
a wanted poster with two eyewitnesses sketches of the
Lady of Silence, one more feminine, and another more mask,
more masculine looking. But the sketches were labeled as
persons of interest only, and there was no mention of the
person's attire. OK, so they were like, might
have a Ding Dong, might have a snooch, we don't know.
Let's go with both. Yeah, we don't know, but they're

(28:50):
big. Oh, it was a big person, she
was. Freaking huge.
Seems like it. Following the murder, Baraza
didn't kill again for three months, which is typical.
A lot of times is a little cooling off period.
That's not gonna. You gotta live off the high
first. You gotta be nervous about it.
You'd be like, whoa, what was that?
Was it exhilarating? Did I come?
What's happening? Am I gay?
Am IA killer. I know I'm a killer now.

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Am I gay now too? Am I?
Gay and that is why I've always I stand for LGBTQK rights.
And Killer got it. And we need that.
No, we don't. Yes, we do.
No, we don't. More killers in the community,
that's what I say. Wow.
Why not, right? Michael Alley did enough for us
in the 90s. Oh OK.
On March 2nd, 2003 she strangledto death Guillermina.

(29:35):
Guillermina Leon Oro Pesa, 84 years old.
So she's getting, she's going to.
Life ahead of her. I mean, that's the sad thing
though, when you're old and you made it through all of life and
you look in the mirror and you're like, well at least I
won't be killed. Yeah.
I wonder how else I'm going to die.
Maybe a foot fungus gone wrong and then Nope, turns out I'm

(29:56):
getting choked out with my granny panties still getting.
Murdered. Yeah, come on, dude.
All of those fucking nights thatI was walking from my car to my
house with my keys in between each fucking finger and the
knuckles just for me to be sitting down, having my TV
dinner and getting wiped out with my own pantyhose.
This. Is bullshit.
That is bullshit. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

(30:18):
That's right. That's what I would have said if
I was the detective. I'd be like, this is ridiculous.
It's God damn this is ridiculous.
Now I've this is, I'm not angry.Yeah, this is just ridiculous.
This is annoying. This is a bummer.
Really. Kind of hullabaloo.
There was a guy in New York Citywhen I was living there.
He's like 90 something years old.
He got pushed in front of a train and that's what I was
thinking. It's like, dude, you grow up

(30:38):
your entire life, you have your childhood, you go to war, you're
frigging your kids get married. Their their kids get married and
then all of a sudden you get pushed in front of a fucking
train. Right.
That's where that sucks. That moron who wants to live
forever, the guy who looks like he's really creepy and wearing
other people's skin, He's just Buffalo Bill.
No, it's some dude who, like, takes all these drugs and gives
himself shots and injections every day and he's just going to

(31:01):
end up getting hit by a bicyclist and dying like all of
us. Yeah, yeah, getting a heart
attack. Yeah, sure.
Even if he survived, even if he doesn't get that, something's
going to come for him. The crimes intensified quickly
after this. On July 25th, Maria Guadalupe
Aguilar Cortina, 86 years old. She was robbed and strangled to
death. October 9th, 2003.

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Maria Guadalupe de la Vega Morales, 87 years old.
Starts ramping up. Found dead with two fractured
arms, tied up and fatally strangled.
Oh my God, fractured arms. I mean, she like she was really
fighting. Yeah, Maria del Carmen Munoz
Cote de Galvan, 78 years old, was found on October 24th,
strangled to death with a stethoscope.

(31:43):
So this is all one year. That's part of her costume.
She's leaving behind crucial things for herself.
Wait, what did she do? It this a?
Stethoscope, the thing that checked your heart.
Yeah, yeah, I know what his death.
Is what the ear things? The ear things.
Hell of a checkup. Hell of a checkup.
Yeah, I mean, I guess she knew when she was dead.
Yeah, let's. Put that right on the heart

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there stops. Beating and time of death.
There it is exactly. Clock it 4:15 PM.
Oh, time for Matlock. Nice.
Lucretia Elsa Calvo Mataquin, 85years old.
She was found dead, strangled with a cord on November 4th,
2003. So the youngest victim was 64,
and the oldest one goes all the way up into the late. 80s, that

(32:24):
looks to be correct. Yeah, yeah.
Wow. Yeah, the Lady of Silence kill
count had now reached 6. By November 5th, 2003, police
had enough evidence and witness testimonies to believe that a
serial killer was in fact on theloose in Mexico City.
Duh. This is out of bounds.
This is straight up out of. This is not flavor talent.
This is ridiculous. This isn't just your usual

(32:46):
cocaine stabbings and cartel fights.
This is a court. Yeah, we.
Turn, ladies, we turn a blind eye to those.
Yeah, Yeah, those don't. Those are fine.
Literally, business is normal. Literally it's a blind eye.
The cartels stabbed my eye out when I tried to investigate him.
Last night so I. Kind of let him do it.
They want the murder spree continued between November 19th,
2003 throughout 2004 and all theway to October of 2005.

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Barossa is suspected of killing an additional 34 elderly
victims, Jesus ranging in age from 59 to 92 years old.
So we got lower, we got to 59. We got all the way to the 50s.
Where do you find? I mean, I know she's older,
maybe doesn't have that much stuff to do, but where do you
find the time? That is a lot of work.

(33:32):
She's also robbing them, so she's got the time to to make
some money. She's unemployed.
Yeah, Yeah. Oh, I see.
Yeah. She doesn't get to work the 9:00
to 5:00. But she's still wrestling at
this time, right? No.
Where she retired. Her demons, yeah, that and
that's, that's all she's wrestling.
That's the toughest match of all, isn't it?
Yeah, she fucking lost it. Clearly.

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Her MO remained mostly the same,beating and strangling, but
there was at least one stabbing,1 bludgeoning and one victim set
on fire post mortem. Jesus, that one must have been a
crime of passion. It's a bad.
Day, Yeah. By mid 2005, Barasa began a
relationship with a taxi driver.Oh.
Jose Francisco Torres Herrero. A rare situation where the taxi

(34:16):
driver was probably the good onein a relationship.
Although he was probably taking her to all the places.
Oh, that's actually great. Wait here, I'm gonna keep the
clock running. Just so you know, I just dropped
some crazy technical bomb on this case like.
Vampires going inside. Right.
Oh my God. I'll be keeping the clock

(34:36):
running. If this gets up to $10, you
you're gonna pay me? I said keep the meter running,
I'll be right back. Jesus Christ, we've been over
this. This taxi driver, Jose, his
nickname was Elfry Hall the Bean.
The Bean. The Bean, The Bean Why does she
have a morning radio show? Raza and the Bean.

(35:01):
Just a lot of death talk. Yeah, he became her accomplice
and getaway driver. So Jerry was correct.
That was not rocket science to figure out I.
Was yeah, that she married a taxi driver.
And I dropped a huge informational bomb on YouTube.
Blew our minds. I mean, that makes sense.
I know it does. Marry someone who can help you

(35:24):
out. Attacks had now increased in
range and frequency and the times when the murders occurred
changed from daytime to the PM. She was doing all of this.
It's in broad daylight. Oh fuck yeah.
That's hilarious. She was like, get it while it's
hot. And, you know, just don't, don't
do it when they think you're gonna do it.
Well, you gotta think daytime isprobably best, especially when

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you're killing the elderly because they're home, everybody
else is at work. It's.
Very true. It's very true.
And. Again, your guard is down.
You just knock on the door and you're like, hi, room service
like this is a hotel too late. Strangled.
Oh my God, that's a good trick. Yeah, yeah.
Barraza went from one murder every month to two or three per
month to two per day. The killing of Wow, he's just

(36:07):
moving on up. She got addicted.
Yes, you really did. But when the guy have a time,
when did the guy have time to pick up people for his taxicab
company? That's very true 2 two people a
day depending on how far away they are from each other,
depending how far away it is from his house versus her house.
I mean, is she giving him gas money at all?
It's. Going to be stressful waiting

(36:27):
outside while, you know, someone's murdering someone in
there, yeah. Yeah, I wonder what you'll
listen to. Baraza and the baby in the
morning, now coming to nighttime.
No, no, no, no nighttime. The killing of 82 year old
Carmen Camilla Gonzalez Miguel on September 28th, 2005.
She was an upper class woman andthe mother of a prominent

(36:48):
Mexican criminologist. This spurred the police into
launching a special investigation.
I like that one. OK, it's special now.
Now it's special. Yes and after each investigation
they do a direct to camera so they can tell the kids not to do
drugs or drink and drive you. See kids, this is what happens

(37:10):
when you were born in a really bad criminalized spot with
people that are poor and criminals.
Were you? Were you sold for three beers?
This could be you. This.
Could be you don't ever get soldfor more than for less than 5.
Exactly. A6.
Pack A6. Rounded out to a solid 6 pack. 3
is just sad. 3 is enough to kindof get you a small buzz, but

(37:33):
that's three is. Enough to start getting you to
go to the bathroom a bunch, but I still haven't noticed that I'm
getting tipsy. Exactly. 3's enough to hurt my
feelings if I'm the one sold, yeah.
Exactly. I wouldn't sell you for three,
Kyle. Oh, thanks.
I would sell you for a whole kegof Michelob Ultra baby.
There it is. Don't have at all.
That's a lot. It is.

(37:53):
So this there's a whole like task force and it was a special
operation and the operation was given the name Operation Parks
and Gardens. Why was this called Operation
Mata Vihitas? Because they didn't know it was
her yet. Actually, no, they did.
That's what they gave her. Operation Parks and Operation
Parks and Gardens does sound like an operation where you

(38:13):
would where you would try to arrest a grandmother.
Yeah. Operation Parks and Gardens
sounds like a community effort to revive the dead tree in the
middle of the town square. What are you talking?
It doesn't. It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, maybe it was a code word. It was supposed to sound that
unassuming. Could be like when they're
filming a big Hollywood movie inyour neighborhood but they don't

(38:34):
tell you what it is. Yeah.
Yeah, police believe that this, you know, serial killer was
praying on elderly woman as theywere walking or sitting alone in
parks near their homes. Oh, I see.
So that's where that all comes from.
So she would follow them home perhaps, and then?
She would plant a garden. She would plan to see it in each
house. Oh my God, that would be kind of

(38:55):
a cool thing. Gardening murderer.
Yeah, there was one dude in Canada who would put the bodies
in gardening and in little flower pots and things like
that, but that was as close as we've gotten to something like
that. Yeah.
During the operation, police increased patrols in the
neighborhoods where the murders were happening.
They were handing out Flyers warning elderly residents to be

(39:16):
cautious of unfamiliar people and released updated suspect
sketches. They went as far as hiring
elderly women to serve as bait in public parks.
That's not great. Wow, if you really need the
money, they're like, hey, listen, the killer's going to
come right up to you, but we gotyour back, kinda just.
Stay. Just stay calm.
Hit that. Hit the emergency button.

(39:38):
You just have to trust they're paying attention and not just
fucking around in the car. Yeah, Jesus.
Christ, most of the time grannies get jobs greeting at
Walmart or something like that. Or you could be bait for a
serial killer sitting on a park bench.
Two profiles had been presented to police, however each
contradicted the other based on over 64 eyewitness sketches and

(39:59):
accounts. A physical description suggested
a man dressed as a woman or a robust woman dressed in white
with a height between 5-6 and five foot 7.
OK, I mean, it sounds like it's a woman.
Yeah. All right, man dressed as a
woman we don't know. A man, I do understand why it's

(40:19):
difficult to imagine a grandma doing this.
Yeah. And they're like, no, that's a
man's job. But women can do everything a
man can do. Yeah.
They said that she also or he orshe also had a robust
complexion, light brown Oval face, wide cheeks, blonde hair,
delineated eyebrows. Approximately 45 years old.

(40:41):
Delineated eyebrows, Yeah. What's that mean?
That means they're like. Not there.
Nated Dilian. Yeah, Dilianated.
They're delinquents. Yeah, they're.
Alien delinquents? Yeah, we'll get them out of this
country right now. I'm kidding.
Maybe they smell like Pickles. Dilianated.

(41:02):
I have no idea, Maybe they're barely there.
What's this dilianate mean? It means it's clearly defined or
outlined. Oh, so she's got like them?
Like penciled in, markered in eyebrows.
So that would let you think thatwould make you imagine it's a
woman. Could be I mean, or a guy if
it's if they're markered in. If they're metrosexual.
Sure, that was popular back in the day.

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The investigation drew criticismwhen authorities announced they
were searching for a homosexual man.
Wow, they are just moving right along the spectrum here.
Possibly a transvestite or transgender person.
So on So on top of looking for her, they're also roasting her
the entire time. Fucked.

(41:45):
I'm a woman. Get over here.
It's. Pissing her off more and more.
Yep. Yeah, it's shaming the community
as well. I know.
Right. Police announced that that, you
know, the killer is probably a man dressed as a woman who cons
his way into homes by pretendingto be a social worker or a
nurse. So they're like, right there.
They're almost there. This isn't US.

(42:05):
Men didn't do this. I'm dead.
Come on, give us a break. Yeah, this actually led to the
false arrest of 49 transvestite sex workers.
I think that I don't think transvestite is the right word,
Kyle. No, it is 'cause.
Transgender. No 'cause back in the day they
called themselves. They were people.
But the modern. But they were.

(42:25):
But they were trans sex workers.OK, trans sex workers, all of
whom were released after their fingerprints didn't match the
evidence from the crime scenes. Oh, there you go.
Yeah, let them do their regular sex crime, selling crimes.
Let them just go fool some guys or not fool some guys into
getting some blur drags guys. Are always going to be like I
had no. Idea I didn't know.

(42:45):
I didn't know. Like Eddie Murphy when he was
just like, I was trying to give her a ride.
When the killing seemed to have stopped in October 2005,
investigators began to suspect that the murderer might have
committed suicide. Easy peasy.
Murderer committed suicide. Case closed.
Keep your doors unlocked. They even compared fingerprints
taken from the crime scenes withthose taken off recent suicide

(43:08):
victims in the morgue. Zero matches were found.
Oh. Boy.
In reality, Juana was just laying low, feeling the heat
from the increased media attention.
And the hot flashes. Despite this, and the multiple
eyewitnesses and police sketchesavailable to the public, Juana
appeared on Mexican television in mid January 2005, interviewed

(43:30):
for a piece on her career as a wrestler.
Sometimes you got to hide in plain sight.
Smartest place to be I. Guess so.
During the interview for TV Azteca, Barrasso was asked
whether she identified more withwrestlers who lacked proper
schooling and act on impulse, orthose who perform with technique
and play it by the rules. She responded.

(43:52):
Villain from the bottom of my heart.
Ruda del Corazon, yeah. Cool, well I like wrestlers that
don't injure other wrestlers because that's not real
wrestling, that's just being a little bit outlandish and outlaw
ish. Yeah, villain, from the bottom
of my heart, get out of here. She kind of is, though.
She. Definitely is.
She was. Probably like, that was so cool.
Sounded. Yeah, I was really talking about

(44:12):
me. It's kind of cool sounding.
Well, it's cool for wrestling, but it's corny being like that.
I really mean it. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah. Just one week later, on January
25th, 2006, Barrasso was spottedby a tenant leaving the home of
her last victim, landlady Anna Maria de Los Reyes Alfaro. 84
years old, Alfaro had been strangled to death with a

(44:35):
stethoscope. Again.
She's just got a a stethoscope budget.
Ohh my just out of this world. Really likes those things.
I think it's the same stethoscope.
It's. Like no, she's been leaving them
behind. She wants to hear your heartbeat
as it slows to a stop. Ohh it's so fucking dark.
It's. Creepy.
It's creepy, yeah. A nearby police officer spotted
Baraza and arrested her after a brief foot chase.

(44:57):
Yeah, I'm sure a. Brief foot trace that that was
that was like a scurrying, kind of like a hurried little walk
there. It wasn't.
They didn't run. The Pee Wee Herman music it.
Was like 2 blocks a brief. Foot chase.
I'm not in ring shape no more it.
Was slight speed walking. The officer, the officer, I

(45:21):
mean, really good job, officer. Yes, Yeah.
What? What an accomplishment.
Barasa was carrying a stethoscope, pension forms and a
card identifying her as a socialworker.
I do want to hear him at the bars.
Laters be like and then the perpran I had I was in a hot
pursuit. That torto was fast, man.
That wow. Like bro, didn't you chase her
from 46 to 48th St. Yeah, but it was down an

(45:45):
alleyway. It was really hard to see.
Uphill, Uphill both ways. At the time she was finally
caught, she was 48 years old. Although Barrasso was unable to
read or write, the search of herhome uncovered a trophy room
filled with newspaper articles about the murders, as well as
personal belongings taken from her victims.
That's pretty crazy. You can't even read, but you're
still collecting. Yeah, I was just going to say

(46:06):
that. Like how does she know that
about her? She just sees like her name.
Maybe is she having people translate it to her?
She says she's like, well, I know that word.
Dead, dead. You know?
Matas. Matas, that's me.
I'm sure she could piece together.
Mata Yehitas Yeah, yeah, I'm sure she couldn't like fully
read, but that's and that's so sad.

(46:27):
That's. Just sad.
And at this time of her arrest, she is now the primary suspect
in at least 40 murders. Yeah.
I mean, and you think it's early2000s and is someone growing up
their entire life without learning how to read or write,
right? Yeah, that still happens.
That is crazy. You think that's that's more of
an old timey situation. Yeah.
I just don't think when you're sold for three beers, your

(46:48):
parents cared about your education.
Yeah, it doesn't seem like it. The press treatment of Barossa
changed dramatically after she was arrested, whereas the
unidentified presumed male killer was said to be very
intelligent and was compared to American serial killer Ted
Bundy. Please, he was also a moron.
You see Ted Bundy? Check out Ted Bundy defending

(47:09):
himself. Oh my God, it's so classic.
Well, yeah. Seriously.
He wants he's getting hard the entire time because he's like go
into more details about the killings the entire time he's
coming in his pants. He's like eating everything up
about that whole thing and the. He looks at the jurors like he's
like sex pot, like he's like thinks he's really charming and
it's just like, buddy, it's not working.
Dude, you look psychotic. You're really scary.

(47:31):
And he looks like George W Bush for some reason.
Ted Bundy. Barasa.
Instead of being compared to TedBundy, she was then defined as
pathological and compared to Aileen Warnos.
Oh. Eileen sure.
I will say the movie monster is dog shit.
It is not at all accurate. Didn't seem very accurate.

(47:52):
No super dramatized in like the wrong ways.
Yes, but Eileen did not have a great childhood.
No, she fucked the main singer of Fog Hat and because she was
out there patrolling the streetsoff her in her pussy and
butthole, up and mouth, and she said he had a very, very small
penis. Slow, Ripe.

(48:14):
Wow. That's why it had to go real
slow. Yes, my.
Dick's too small, slow it. Down.
Get it going. Get it going real slow.
It'll work. It'll work, but it takes little
time. Authorities presented that Juana
Barrasa was a psychopath who felt no remorse.
They claimed she associated her elderly victims with her mother
and suggested she believed that she was helping society by

(48:35):
killing them. Come on, there ain't no Angel.
Angel of death. No one.
Well, sometimes old women can beannoying, but for the most part,
they're fine. Oh, sometimes they can be
annoying. OK, My grandmother would kill
you. Well, yeah.
Yeah. Sometimes they can be grumpy
older ladies for sure. Oh, for sure.
They've seen it all. They've done it all.

(48:55):
I. Don't know.
I mean, I got one grandmother that is like, she's always very
sad. She's always very like, my life
has been all woes. And then my other grandmother,
my great grandmother would be like, man, that other grandma of
yours kind of miserable fuck, isn't she?
It's not about he's always laughing and laughing.
My life has been all woes. Yeah, she is like.

(49:19):
Yeah, my grandmother, she was not.
My life has been all woes. She's like my life has been full
with idiots. Yeah, you all are fucking
morons. I'll call her.
Hey, Grandma, how you doing? She's like ready to go.
Yeah, kind of over it. And like, that's good.
That's good for you. Well, it's coming.
That's. Good, yeah.
My Nana was nice to me, but she hated women all the time.

(49:41):
We would go out in public and she'd be like, look.
At those Why did you separate yourself from the women she
hated? Because I viewed her as a very,
very nice, loving person, but she was very competitive and
didn't like women. That's old school.
A lot of old school female thinkers.
Yeah, definitely. Oh yeah.
Women against women. Classic, classic patriarchy.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nothing to do with us.

(50:04):
Yeah. This is about women.
In 2008, Juana Barossa stood trial for 30 of these murders
and was ultimately convicted of 16.
That's only just over half. That's still good.
It's enough. It's enough to keep her away
forever. But she was also convicted on 12
counts of robbery. Most most of the convictions

(50:26):
were based on fingerprint evidence linking her to the
crime scenes. After the conviction, she begged
the court. May God forgive you and not
forget me. I don't think what.
I thought that, isn't that something that the judge would
say to her? Right.
Seems like she's not taking responsibility.
Do we know she did it? Oh, he's having.
Yeah, no, we definitely fingerprints.

(50:48):
Fairly. Fingerprints something.
I'll but I'll fingerprint something right now.
May God forgive. I mean it sucks because it
sounds like she's like she's working from this pace of of
pain that just never healed. It just got worse and worse.
Yeah, well, so it is kind of scary.
She's an old woman. You never want to be cursed by
an old woman. I've seen the movie Thinner.
I've read Steven King books audio I've.
Listened to audio books? And when an old woman curses

(51:09):
you, it's real and you will die.She received the total sentence
of 759 years in prison. Well, that's a lot.
Yeah, it's a record for the longest sentence ever handed
down in Mexican history. Damn.
Good for her setting records till the day she dies this is.
This is crazy. Despite the lengthy sentence,

(51:30):
she's actually scheduled to be eligible for parole in 2058,
when she will be 100 years old. Oh, her Centennial.
Let her out and let someone killher at home.
She's still alive. That's pretty insane, yes.
She's hanging out, she's wrestling in the old courtyard
with all the other inmates. She actually only confessed to
one of the murders, that of Al Farah, her final victim, but

(51:54):
that's because she was caught red handed with the stethoscope
and all the all the stuff that proved she was you know a
fucking nurse or right court officer or whatever.
During her first court appearance she stated I only
killed 1 little old lady, not the others.
Just one little old lady. It isn't right to pin the others
on me, she said. Just one little tiny little old

(52:16):
lady. Oh my God, now all these are
those ladies came out of the No.No, they're not even good enough
for me to kill them. That was the there was this guy,
Anthony Schofield, who stole panties from my old university
and he was disgusting. He ended up getting busted for
trying to have sex with a 13 year old, I think.

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I think he's in prison to this day.
You can Google him. But he was really handsome and
all the girls like them because he skateboarded.
But he was speaking with one, one of my friends, Katie, one
time and she was like, get the fuck out of here because we all
knew. And he's like, yeah, I wouldn't
even steal your panties. You're not even pretty enough
for me to steal your pants. And I was like, that is so
that's an insult, bro. You're insulting her.
Yeah, but I feel like that's what she was saying where it's
like, I don't even kill those bitches.

(52:57):
They're just old Grandma's. So gross.
Yeah, man, it's not even the panty rate I was looking for.
No, it's a strange, strange fetish out there.
She continues to deny involvement in all of the other
crimes she was either convicted for, connected to or suspected
of. Today, she's 67 years old, still
serving her sentence at a prisonin Mexico City.

(53:19):
OK, so she. Could live another 20 years or
so. Oh.
For sure, yeah. Wow, this is very recent.
That's. Fucking crazy.
Whatever the true motivation wasbehind her murder spree.
Terrible life. Yeah, that's definitely, I think
we nailed it. Yeah.
Barossa has never sought of fameand has kept a very low profile
during her time in prison, refusing interviews and staying

(53:41):
out of the spotlight. Well.
She was always quiet. That's true.
She's an introvert. I really, she really was.
She wasn't doing all I want to be known as one of the most
famous. It really seems like she just
snapped one day. Yeah, one day.
Kind of did it out of necessity,not that it's ever.
Right. Some kind of survival mechanism
in her brain told her to start doing it.
What if she doesn't even? What if she doesn't even

(54:02):
remember the murder? So like in her brain, she's
genuinely like, I didn't kill all of those other people.
I only remember that one and therest is a blackout.
It's possible. Yeah, it is.
That's scary. It is.
She briefly returned to public attention in 2015 when rumors
emerged that she had married married a fellow inmate.
Lesbian. Oh, look at that, love is in the

(54:25):
air sharing tacos. Do you now?
Do you pronounce her? We now pronounce you wife and
really scary grandma kill her wife.
Yes. Nice.
The rumors were true. The man she married was Miguel
and Helen. What the hell is going?
She still married a man. Who is this man?

(54:46):
All these fucking people in prison, they're all getting
married, they're all getting hooked up.
Why what? Well, what?
What? Where did he come from?
Where did he go? We're not singing that right.
No, not Kai. Night, Joe.
He got on his knee and gave her 3 beers instead of a ring.
Wow. That's kind of nice, yeah.
You're you're mine for at least four years, lady.

(55:07):
Wow. Oh my God.
No, this guy was a psychopath. He was a prisoner known for his
extremely violent behavior. Oh, their relationship had
developed over a period of a year, solely written through
letters. So she had to learn how to write
at some point. Yeah, that's true.
What the fuck? Yeah, she broke something.
And I bet you The thing is much like letters from Vietnam.

(55:27):
Yeah, it was a horrible situation, but they were
romantic. You ever hear those World War 2
letters? Dear Dorothy, I think of you
every night before I go to sleep.
Please, you know, whatever. Touch your touch your thing for
me once. I don't freaking know what.
I don't know what romance is, but I know that prisoners and
fighters have it. Please romance your being while

(55:49):
I am away. Yes, and I'll be back, but like,
not without PTSD and maybe in a lag, Yeah.
She was hanging out with a guy named the Bean.
Exactly. That's right, L3 Hall.
She was romancing the bean. Whatever happened to that guy?
Who knows? Yeah, fuck that guy.
I. Couldn't like that guy.
No, he didn't do nothing wrong. He was, yes, he did what?
He ate it and abetted. He was driving her to all of the

(56:12):
spots. All of the murders.
Driving Miss Wrestler. Yeah, he was.
Driving Miss Wrestler. He was doing what he had.
He was a taxi. Driver, yes, yeah.
The media framed the wedding as a romantic story, drawing
significant coverage. Ridiculous.
Why? Honestly, their couple is better
than whatever Meghan Markle has going on.
Don't, no. I had to bring her up.

(56:33):
No, not. But Rasa and the man had never
met before their wedding day, and she was seriously
underwhelmed when she met him for the first time.
Lol stated every woman ever. She stated once we saw each
other, the love vanished. That's Oh my God, that's why you
got to meet your Tinder dates, homie.
You got to fucking meet him in real life.

(56:55):
It's. Called getting catfished.
Wow, there this guy. He must have had the power of
the pen. Real romantic.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, thick writing.
Yeah, so the picture just stomp his balls on each page.
That's his watermark. Sticky Mark.

(57:15):
Yeah. Their marriage lasted only a
year, so only a year I would expect.
If someone showed up and was like, I'm very underwhelmed with
you, we're getting married rightnow.
I wouldn't think that the wedding would happen at all, no.
You have all the prisoners therethat you already.
Told you give tickets already here.
You're like, people are watching.
It's also getting us out for like a couple hours tops.
You know, that's true. Something to do today.

(57:36):
You spent all that and then and then what?
He goes back to his cell. You spent all that money on
burner plates. Yeah.
Charger plates, Yeah. You know, you probably had the
kitchen prison staff cook up a little extra guacamole and
whatever it might be. Yeah, the notary come all the
way down from downtown. Yeah, yeah, a year.
I'm actually proud of them. 12 full months.

(57:58):
Yeah. They do say that marriages are
going to be more successful if you sleep in two different beds.
So Oh yeah, yeah, there it is. That doesn't apply here, but for
most other people it does. Two different cells.
Yeah, exactly. Even better than two different
beds. Right.
She was like I'm not really feeling them but I only have to
say I do to him and then he kindof goes away again so fuck it.
I mean, many people say marriageis a prison.

(58:20):
It is. So when you're married in
prison, strangely enough, it can't.
What's the difference? It might cancel it.
So it might cancel it out and make marriage a freedom thing.
Free freedom. In the in the year they spent
together married, they spent a total of 40 minutes together
during three different visits. See, she did not have to.

(58:43):
She did not have to put that much work in less than an hour.
And she was like, absolutely not.
I tried. I tried with this fucking guy.
Can you believe him? Can you believe him?
He said 510 in the letters fucking 54.
He. Probably lied a lot.
Seems like he was a sociopath too. 40 minutes.
Yeah. And she's and she's like, where

(59:04):
did I go wrong? Why do I keep meeting these
crazy guy? Yeah.
What is it? Me.
Am I the problem? Is that the Taylor Swift song is
the problem. It's me.
It's me. Yes, I wouldn't be so Oh my God,
what if Taylor that's the story are for T Swift?
She's like serial killer. It'd be kind of cool.
Well, these days Juana Barasa supports herself behind bars by

(59:26):
making tacos, which have become very popular among the fellow
inmates. OK, there you go.
She's doing nice. She's being nice.
Yeah. I wouldn't necessarily trust the
food. Seems like it might be dangerous
or poisoned. Could be, yeah.
What if you're an old lady inside?
Right. Yeah, yeah.

(59:46):
She's able to sell her tacos twice a week on Mondays and
Wednesdays, which is odd becauseshe went to prison and to sell
tacos, but her mother sold her tacos and went to prison.
Right. Oh wow.
They don't do it on Tuesday. No Taco Tuesdays.
Tuesdays for her. That's prison, I guess.
Wow. Nothing is.
It's fucked. Up.
Nothing is going to be a symbiotic like that.

(01:00:07):
Yeah, because usually it's a Wings Wednesday.
Yeah, You know, Margarita Mondays.
I. Don't know Taco Mondays?
Yeah, Taco, Taco Wednesdays. See how that doesn't even go it?
Doesn't go at all. It's.
Well, you're going to eat the fucking tacos, aren't you?
Yeah, I was when I was growing up.
We used to do Whopper Wednesdayswhen Burger King would have the
dollar Whopper. Oh, whop, whop, whop.
Pretty exciting. Yeah.
And it worked. I mean, that kind of rhymes to
Costa talking. Whop, whop, whop.

(01:00:29):
What whopper? Oh.
Yeah. And that'll take us to.
Final thoughts I am really upsetnow that Burger King never
worked with who Was it Cardi B who made?
Whopper. They really should have whopped
it. The The Whopper.
Yeah, yeah, the whopper. The.
Whopper. She's a She's a good old
whopper, that one. Again, as final thoughts.

(01:00:50):
Again, I've I've said this before, it can't trust the
elderly. That's yeah, of course.
What the fuck? No, that's my final thought.
Have you ever said that I've. Said it all.
I'm sitting right now. And also this is another final
thought. When people are like, oh, don't
swear there's an old people person around.
They're all, they've all been gang banged.
They've all gaped. Old people have done the
nastiest shit. They look at us like we're a

(01:01:12):
bunch of pussies. They look at us like, Oh my God,
we used to do orgy after orgy after orgy St.
DS. If you didn't have one, you were
a fucking loser. So you can swear around old
people. They are sick in the head.
Don't let them fool you when they're asking, Oh, I need oh, I
need to get some chocolate cake or whatever.
Don't even let them fool you so old people watch out for them.

(01:01:35):
Final thoughts. So how old are you going to be
when I should stop trusting you?You can trust me.
When, when are you? When are you going to enter this
old era where it's like? When I'm 92 and I tell you
you're still attractive, yeah, Jerry's going to grow up to be a
woman. Wow, I don't trust this behavior

(01:01:56):
at all. I'm sorry.
I apologize for that right now. I apologize for future me.
No, it's fine. I don't have to.
Yeah, no, I actually think if anyone's going to kill, it would
be you, Yeah. So I'm never going to say any.
Knee snapping later on, I'm killing.
You. I'm retracting that right now,
yeah. Boy, here's.
My confession now yeah, you finda scalped Ben Kissel sometime in
the future I'll. Allow it, yeah.

(01:02:17):
Has a sign in front of him that says he allowed it.
He allowed it. Well, my final thought is that
just because you've. Been a final thought.
So you fucking do it then? So I he just got me up, riled up
with his old age bullshit. Yeah.
And then he accused me of murdering him in the future,
which I most likely did do. Slash will do.
Yeah. Final thought, the the lady

(01:02:38):
never had a chance. It's really sad.
And it definitely like, screams out like, life trauma unhealed
all over the place. Yeah.
And then the system just, like, threw her back into herself and
did nothing about it. So that's really sad.
Yeah, but just because you get hurt early on in life doesn't
mean you need to manifest it andtake it out on other.
People. I mean, she was sold for three
beers. Very true.

(01:02:59):
You gotta hail yourself, heal yourself.
Heal yourself, sure, but also, Imean, yeah, you could bring it
into corporate America. You could become ACEO, get into
broadcast, be a boss bitch. But.
To choke out 90 year old women was.
Anyone here ever sold for three beers I was not and then held
kidnapped for hostage for four years like I.
Was given away. You were.
You weren't given away. Given to anyone giving away.

(01:03:22):
People having a stepfather. They were given a forced hand
and that's called Kyle. I love your stepfather.
I would like to hear his thoughts.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. You know what we are gonna hear?
What are we gonna hear? Screams from the elderly.
Oh no. This is how I always thought I

(01:03:45):
was gonna die. You've got mail.
We got ourselves a mailbag, all right.
This time, we're going to come straight from the Patreon
comments right on this episode. Patreon.com slash dot.
Live Mail. Live mail.
All right, what are, what's thismailbag you speak of?
Yeah, historic at saying they said not on Tuesday because fuck

(01:04:08):
you in prison. Yeah, they don't have to explain
themselves. They just fucking me, do
whatever they want. Exactly.
Piano says that I came free witha six pack.
Well, that's not bad then. Also you you also weren't free.
Yeah, you were six pack. The Wagner logic says awesome
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So if you guys want to see it, you can check us out on YouTube

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A look. It's so cute.
Yeah, Jerry and Kyle. Bonafide baby.
Boners. Yes, bonafide.
All right, everyone, thank you all so much for listening to
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