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Is the resurgence of eugenics ideologies influencing today's global policies? Join me for a compelling conversation with Dr. Lee Vliet as we explore the historical roots and modern implications of the eugenics movement, from the early 2000s to the present day. We'll dissect the roles played by global organizations and political figures in perpetuating these disturbing agendas, and provide you with a historical map that uncovers hidden truths about the global depopulation agenda and the impacts of SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2.

Ever wondered how government control over healthcare might be linked to a broader depopulation strategy? We're scrutinizing policies around contraception, abortion, and healthcare rationing, and discussing the consequences of the 2009 TARP legislation, electronic medical records, and the controversial Independent Payment Advisory Board. Through an examination of Ezekiel Emanuel's philosophy and the reshaping of the physician-patient relationship, we'll reveal how these changes culminated in the enactment of Obamacare in 2010 and reshaped America's healthcare landscape.

Finally, we'll take a hard look at the annual flu shot, the profound impact of President Trump's election on public health policies, and the mysterious events leading up to the COVID-19 pandemic. Get ready for an in-depth exploration of the narratives around COVID-19, the suppression of early treatments, and the push towards experimental vaccines. Concluding with a discussion on the importance of maintaining health through natural means and spiritual well-being, Dr. Vliet and I emphasize rejecting fear and trusting in the body's innate ability to heal.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, welcome to episode number 34.
This is part two of myconversation with the amazing Dr
Leigh Vliet and in case you didnot hear my previous episode
with her, I'd encourage you togo back and listen to that
interview before diving intotoday's show.
In the introduction to thatepisode I told you all about Dr
Vliet's background and how herand I have so many overlapping

(00:22):
interests, and she truly is arare blend of historian and
medical doctor.
As a reminder, in the lastepisode we went all the way back
to the early 1900s to tracesome of the roots of the
American eugenics movementthrough what eventually became
Planned Parenthood, and wetalked about the eugenics that
was actually exported from theUS to Germany and then brought

(00:44):
back to the US after the war.
We talked about what CatherineAustin Fitz refers to broadly as
the great poisoning that hasbeen going on in the US for the
last several decades.
We also talked about howvaccines were used for the
purposes of sterilization andthe coordinated efforts by 179
nations to reduce the population.
In today's episode we pick upwith the continuously rebranded

(01:07):
eugenics movement starting inthe early 2000s and we trace it
to present time.
So let me first say that if theidea that such a movement is
still with us and not somethingrelegated to the waste bin of
history.
If that's hard to swallow, Iget it.
It's unsettling.
It's one thing to realize suchthings happened in the past.
It's another thing to sit withthe reality that it is still

(01:28):
with us today and we'recurrently being manipulated and
lied to about it.
So get ready for some uglyhistory that you probably lived
through and didn't even know washappening.
But be encouraged that thesickness is being brought into
the sunlight and this episodewill give you more discernment
to read the headlines of worldevents.
So here's to entertaining toughconcepts and finding the

(01:50):
resolve to have the hard butnon-hysterical conversations we
need to be having about realevil that walks among us today
as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
If we can face it, god can helpus fix it.
All right, with that said, hereis part two of my conversation
with Dr Lee Vliet.
All right, hello everyone,welcome back to the show.
It is my honor to re-welcome DrLee Vliet to continue our

(02:14):
conversation.
I guess I'd say we're.
We could say we're excited tohave him, but we're more just.
We accept the responsibility tohave this conversation about
some of the ugly things in thehistory of humanity and to do
our best to just bring them intothe sunlight and talk about
some of what we have livedthrough.
So we're part two of ourconversation on eugenics and
just replaying the history so wecan see more clearly an

(02:37):
accurate map of reality and workto build our lives around
what's real, not what's theofficial reality.
And so, dr Vliet, welcome backto the show.
It's great to have you.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Thank you so much, Christian.
It's a pleasure to be back withyou.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Fantastic.
Well, let's dive in.
So we left the listener rightaround the end of the 1990s last
time in this timeline of theeugenics history, and so jump in
for us and kind of just startfrom the 2000s forward, and this
will get a little more personalbecause we've all mostly lived
through this era, and so I guessif there's good news here, it's
that, no matter which politicalparty you may have been a part
of or who you voted for, bothsides of this aisle have let us
down and have participated inthis agenda.

(03:18):
So take heart that we're justgoing to talk about what has
happened and do our best to giveyou some eyes to see things
that may have been in theshadows before.
So take it away, dr Vliet.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, thank you, christian.
And I think the important thingis that, while people may say,
well, why go back over all ofthe bad things that have
happened, I see it more asconnecting the dots of how these
pieces of the puzzle and whatwe've been living through in the

(03:50):
last four years, since COVIDwas unleashed on the world, how
the pieces of the puzzle wereput in place long before 2020,
and how that fit with the100-year plan of depopulation
which has been promoted by theeugenics movement, by the Club

(04:15):
of Rome, the Committee of 300,cairo Population Accords and a
host of the global predators whochoose to subjugate humanity
and kill off humanity to servetheir own purposes.

(04:37):
And in order to stand against itand to fight back to survive,
we need to understand whatthey've put in place and how we
can begin to expose it and rallymore people to stand against it
.
And so I think that's why theLord has us in this place at

(05:03):
this time, with the knowledgethat you and I each have taken
time and effort to uncover, sothat we can share it with others
and be the watchman on the wallwhich God asked us to do.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Right, yeah, well, that's why we're here.
So start giving the listenersome of the history they may not
know.
We'll go back to 2000, 2001 andtake it from there.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, it was in the time frame of 2001 to 2002 that
the SARS-CoV-1 respiratory virusoutbreak occurred and this was
also a lab leak from Wuhan ChinaInstitute of Virology and it

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was more limited in spread andit did not reach the level of a
global pandemic.
But what is significant aboutthe SARS-CoV-1 viral illness is
that later in 2020, sars-cov-2,or COVID-19 as it was also

(06:19):
called, that viral illness, whenthey did the sequencing of the
actual genome of the viruses,sars-cov-1 and SARS-CoV-2 shared
about 80% of the same genome.

(06:39):
I think medically that issignificant is that the NIH
under Anthony Fauci's agent Imean Anthony Fauci was at NIAID
under the NIH at and lied to thepublic on that as well.
That was in the 80s and mypoint about this is that

(07:17):
research that they did at NIH inthe early 2000s showed
unequivocally that chloroquineand its sister drug,
hydroxychloroquine, had potentantiviral activity against the
SARS-CoV-1 virus.
They did the research around2002 to 2003.

(07:40):
The paper was published in 2005in the Journal of Virology,
which is the publication ofFauci's own agency, that
hydroxychloroquine andchloroquine were potent

(08:04):
antivirals against SARS-CoV-1and SARS-CoV-2 that shared 80%
of the same genetic makeup.
So we had a treatment and Ifound that article from 2005 in
about five minutes on theinternet in March of 2020.
So I knew then that we had drugsthat could work against this

(08:30):
new COVID illness that we werebeing told was a novel virus.
It wasn't novel and it wasman-made in gain-of-function
studies.
And what was interesting abouthydroxychloroquine and
chloroquine is that they blockedthe first two steps in the

(08:54):
establishment of a viral illness.
They blocked the virus entryinto the cells and they blocked
the second step, which isviruses use our cellular
machinery, or animals' cellularmachinery, to replicate and then

(09:14):
spread throughout the body ofthe host.
So hydroxychloroquine andchloroquine blocked viral entry
into the cells and they blockedreplication.
So it's very clear and itworked.
I treated all of my patientswith COVID very quickly three to

(09:37):
five days of symptoms.
We got on treatment right awaycombination approaches that Dr
Zelenko and myself and manyother doctors were using at the
time and put all the combinationmedicines and nutraceuticals
together and everyone I treatedfor COVID recovered.

(09:57):
No one went in the hospital andno one died.
So we didn't need the vaccine.
The COVID injection wasdesigned to be toxic to
reproduction and thecardiovascular and nervous
systems in particular, and itwas, as Dr Mike Yidden has said

(10:20):
so often, toxic by design.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, that's the hard part to swallow is that there
was malicious intent and it wasyou're rewinding like we already
saw this movie back in 2001 and2002 and it didn't.
They didn't hit the scale theywanted.
So they basically pulled it offagain, and this time with more
breadth of uh, I guess mediahype to go with it and on
testing and everything else.

(10:45):
So give us the in-between thesekind of things, or I guess I
don't want to redirect you.
Finish your point on the SARS-1and 2.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I think the point is that the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak
really was like a dry run andthey were already working on the
mRNA vaccine technology.
Then they were working on thatsame technology for the AIDS
virus and they never were ableto accomplish that.

(11:15):
So the mRNA technology has beenin development for at least 25
years.
Technology has been indevelopment for at least 25
years, perhaps a little longerand the lipid nanoparticle
component of the vaccine I wantto emphasize this right here and

(11:35):
we'll probably pick it up againlater that was known to be
damaging to ovaries andtesticles in all animal species
studied 15 years ago.
Mm-hmm.
So when they were working onthis technology and they needed

(11:56):
to coat the mRNA with lipidnanoparticle technology to drive
it across the cell membrane toget into the blood brain barrier
and into the brain to cross theplacental barrier to get the
mRNA inside our cells, that wasthe technology they used and at

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least 15 years ago they knewthat it damaged reproduction in
males and females of all speciesstudied.
So let that sink in.
When you say it's hard to wrapyour mind around the
intentionality of it, of thedamage, you have to look at the
fact that they went ahead usingthe technology they already knew

(12:43):
damaged reproduction.
So it's clear evidence thatdamage to reproduction was known
, planned and delivered in theCOVID shot.
And if you look at the COVIDillness that was so easily

(13:05):
treatable, quickly in theoutpatient setting, you know I
realize people died from COVIDillness.
But they died because they weretold to go home and if they got
worse come back and treat whenit was already past the viral
illness and into catastrophicinflammatory cascade and acute

(13:28):
respiratory distress syndromeand at that point treatment is
very difficult.
But all the early treatmentapproaches for that illness
worked very well.
The reason they were notallowed to be used.
Doctors were prevented fromusing them.

(13:49):
Is that the agenda was to pushpeople use covid shots?
The covid shots were the werethe end game.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Covid was what was used to scare people to get the
shot yeah, no other thing isimportant to understand the
covid shots the only answer toeverything else that might
impact health.
It's like we do nothing or wedo the shot and there's no other
thing on the table, and it'ssuch a weird thing to rewind and
look at and be like, yeah, whywas it that there were no other

(14:31):
things we were allowed to do?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, and there were other things that were discussed
in the media, because I was oneof the people talking about
hydroxychloroquine, for example.
But we were were suppressed.
We were censored, suppressed,doctors were persecuted, doctors
lost jobs, doctors lost medicallicenses.
So it was clearly a anorchestrated censorship designed

(15:01):
to prevent the larger publicfrom knowing there were
treatments available.
Now, if you fast forward, fromfollowing the SARS-CoV-1
outbreak in 2002, in 2005, theWorld Health Regulatory

(15:32):
Agreement document, pushed bythe World Health Organization,
was signed by 196 countries whogave up their sovereignty and
ceded authority to the WorldHealth Organization to be able
to dictate response to anydesignated and this is the
critical term quote publichealth emergency of
international concern.
End quote, or PHEIC, and somehave pointed out that means fake

(15:56):
if you pronounce it.
But a public health emergencyof international concern was the

(16:19):
buzzword that triggered thelegal framework of the 2005
International Health RegulatoryAgreement to be implemented by
WHO, allowing the World HealthOrganization to have control of
medical delivery, public healthmeasures, media narratives,
medications used, and that hasmajor implications for
population control because bysuppressing treatments that work

(16:39):
later ivermectin was clearlyone of those the world health
organization was participatingin the depopulation, the
long-term depopulation agenda,and then fast forward.
So that's 196 nations agreeingto let the world health

(17:02):
Organization dictate theirresponse in a public health
emergency, rather than localpublic health officials in each
country assessing the situationon the ground in their country
and making decisions for theircountry based on their needs,
which is the way it's had alwaysbeen yeah then, in 2009, when

(17:28):
president obama had just beeninaugurated, ezekiel emmanuel
wrote a new paper on thecomplete live system and he
became the White House seniorhealth policy czar under Obama

(17:50):
and the architect of Obamacare,with billions of dollars cut
from care for the elderly withMedicare and older Americans,
and it provided forgovernment-funded contraception,
government-funded abortion,rationing of care for the

(18:15):
elderly and shifting money intoto treating younger people
between roughly ages 15 to 40.
That was all part of thedepopulation agenda as well.
If you provide freecontraception across the board,

(18:37):
paid for by the government, freeabortion, paid for by the
government, you're preventingpregnancy, you're ending
pregnancy, so you're decreasingthe population.
At that end, you're decreasingthe population in the older age
group by rationing care so theydie sooner.
And then that all goes to thelong range eugenics agenda.

(19:01):
And then also in 2009, whichmost people don't realize is
that that was when the TroubledAssets Relief legislation, or
TARP, was passed as a financialanswer to the economic crash of
2008, in the fall of 2008.

(19:23):
And the TARP legislationunknown to the broader public,
because that was another one ofthose massive bills that nobody
read and how it was ready withina month of Obama's inauguration
is another questionable pointto consider.

(19:45):
This massive legislation wasobviously prepared ahead, but
what they hid in that was twotracks of control of healthcare
and rationing medical services.
The health informationtechnology legislation that
mandated the electronic medicalrecords that allowed tracking of

(20:05):
everything about you, includingwhether or not you were a gun
owner.
So they actually began trackinggun ownership in medical
databases, with directions topediatricians and primary care
doctors to ask children, underthe guise of safety do your

(20:27):
parents have a gun in the home?
So they were already startingto track gun ownership through
the medical records.
And I spoke on that at a majorevent in Idaho about 7,000
people in the audience that day.
And I start telling all ofthese people in Idaho, they're
going to be tracking your gunsin the medical database and the

(20:51):
crowd roared.
I bet they did.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's so invasive.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Well, yes, and I said you watch it's coming, and sure
enough it has.
So the health care information,electronic medical records,
they track everything.
Secondly, in the TARP, theyalso set up the Independent
Payment Advisory Board forrationing of medical care.
Now, later, that was what SarahPalin referred to as the death

(21:18):
panels and everybody mocked herand said, oh no, it's not in
Obamacare.
Well, it wasn't in Obamacare.
Well, it wasn't in Obamacare.
That was passed in 2010.
They had already passed this in2009.
So it was all in place.
Wow.
In case Obamacare didn't getpassed.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
And that's the Independent Patient Advisory
Board, is where they were ableto restrict.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes the.
Independent Payment AdvisoryBoard was a panel of experts set
up to decide what Medicarewould pay for, Medicare Medicaid
would pay for and what theywould not, which, in effect,
rationed care.
For example, if you have acertain body mass index, they

(22:07):
wouldn't pay for a kneereplacement because you're too
fat.
So they could make decisionslike if you're too fat or too
old or you have diabetes, thenwe're not going to pay for these
services.
So they were ratcheting downthe services that would be
allowed.
So, like in the UK, theywouldn't pay.

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The NHS wouldn't pay forLucentis for macular
degeneration until you'd alreadylost the vision in one eye,
Whereas in the US people couldhave it preventively to prevent
loss of sight in both eyes.
So it's that that was the groupthat was to make those

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decisions now and that wasalready in place.
That's what I wanted people tounderstand.
And it was around 2009 thatpharma research.
So see, a lot of these thingswere coming together right as.
Obama came, took office, theyknew they were going to go for

(23:13):
government control of healthcare, and so all of these pieces
of the puzzle were being putinto place to facilitate that.
And it was around 2009 that thePharma Research Journals
published papers showing thatthe lipid nanoparticle
technology for the mRNA shotsdamaged the ovaries and

(23:36):
testicles in every animalspecies, so they already knew it
caused reproductive damage asearly as 2009.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Maybe earlier.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, there's such patient gradualism that these
people practice of just layingto your point, laying train
tracks.
We're going to need this in 10years, so let's get this in
place and we've got to figureout how to market it and which
buzzwords the people are goingto swallow and it's just a
patient attempt to their agendais set are going to swallow, and
it's just a patient attempt to.
Their agenda is set and it'sjust digging through the rubble

(24:08):
of their uh, the forensic audit,if you will, of what they have
been doing.
You unearth stuff like you canactually see intent, not just
bad judgment oh, exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
No, there's no question.
This was intentional design ofcurtailing life.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, it's also the hubris to say you know what we
need to have some people inWashington decide how long you
should live and which, as ifthey're somehow qualified to be
taking in all the informationrelative to your situation, and
they've thought of everything.
It doesn't even pass the smelltest that we would have a system
like that, yet that's preciselywhat they were building, for a

(24:49):
different purpose.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Exactly.
And then 2010,.
Obamacare was passed, which putthe government the federal
government in control of everydecision made in health care
what insurance you could buy,what the insurance companies
could charge for it, what theycould cover, what they were

(25:11):
required to cover.
There was no longer riskmanagement decided by the
insurance carriers, it wasdecided by the federal
government as to what thestandards would be, and massive
cuts to Medicare services.
So Obamacare has been one ofthe biggest intrusions into the

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physician-patient relationshipand the ability of doctors to
decide independently for apatient what's in that patient's
best interest, and that waspart of Ezekiel Emanuel's
philosophy.
In the complete life system, weneed to do away with the oath
of Hippocrates, focus on theindividual and we need to focus

(25:55):
on the collective good.
That's a Marxist concept.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Right, well, and what we decided is a complete life.
Like, we'll define that for youand then, when you fall outside
of our definition, then youraccess to services are cut off.
Like, what a gross way toapproach anything but carry on.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
So then we come to the years of 2011 to 2015.
And that was the surge of theborder crisis, the first time
under Obama and when the BorderPatrol and I was working
directly with some of the BorderPatrol and counterterrorism

(26:37):
agents here in Arizona at thetime and they were updating me
on what was coming across theborder and I was giving talks
with them about the implicationsmedically of the diseases
coming across the border.
And so, from 2011 through 2015,we had massive numbers of

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illegal aliens from countriesaround the world, particularly
Central America, pakistan, china, middle East, north Africa,
coming across the border.
The southern border, tucsonsector, was particularly hard
hit during that time.

(27:26):
Texas also, california's borderwall was more secure, so there
was less of a problem there.
But that's when a lot of themysterious respiratory illnesses
began cropping up in citiesaround the US and people didn't
understand where it was comingfrom.

(27:46):
That, particularly in 2014, themysterious respiratory
illnesses that popped up inAmerican cities, killing young
children, and that was latertraced to a viral illness
brought in by Central Americanillegals that the DHS planes

(28:08):
Department of Homeland Securitycontracted.
Planes were flying all over theUS.
We tracked some of those.
They would pay for charterflights from Tucson
International Airport betweenmidnight and 3 am nonstop from
Tucson to cities.
We never had nonstop service toand these charter flights.

(28:32):
Then, when we started exposingit in some of our medical and
other activist groups, theystopped listing the flights on
Flight Tracker.
Yep, they caught them with theirhand in the cookie jar and they
have to change tactics becausethey've been brought into the

(28:53):
sunlight even between midnightfor these illegals coming across
the border and one of ourwhistleblowers in Arizona went

(29:18):
back through the federal budgetleading up to that and found in
the federal budget the fundsthat were allocated in 2011 for
the border surge that took placein 2014.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
So what's your sense?
I don't know if this is in yourpurview or not, but how does
the eugenics angle tie into thehuman trafficking and organ
harvesting and those sorts ofthings that are obviously are
still here going on?
But what is the?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
is that correlated or they just yes, I think it is
First of all.
First of all, immigration donelegally always has medical
screening, regardless of whatcountry.
I mean when, when we were legalimmigrants to Chile to get a
visa to live and work, aresidency visa, in Chile, panama

(30:08):
and a couple of other placesaround the same time, we had to
go through medical screening.
Legal immigrants to Americahave to go through medical
screening.
The illegals do not have anyscreening and they come from
countries that don't havevaccination programs for the
kinds of diseases that had beeneradicated in the US,

(30:30):
vaccination programs for thekinds of diseases that had been
eradicated in the US smallpoxand many others.
Tuberculosis was nearlyeradicated in the US until these
border surges of illegals fromcountries that had a high
incidence of drug-resistanttuberculosis, and now that's
skyrocketed in the US.
And it's very expensive, veryhard to treat.

(30:52):
So when you have these diseasesyou have, people die from those.
You also are weakening people'simmune system, damaging their
health.
So it's a combination ofdepopulation through death and

(31:12):
through abortion and throughinfertility preventing pregnancy
, but it's also depopulationthrough gradual weakening of
people in their health and theydie earlier than their life
expectancy would otherwise be.
So it all ties together and itties into the replacement of the

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people who were born in America, whether they were Native
Americans or whether they wereAnglo-Saxons, whether they came
from other countries and legallyimmigrated here.
People who were naturalizedcitizens of America were born
here.

(32:04):
Those people with people whohave none of our cultural
history, none of our values,then you are undermining the
fabric of society, which alsoleads to more violence and more

(32:26):
death from criminal action aswell.
So it all serves the long rangeagenda of reducing the
population.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, well, similar to like you're straining the
municipalities, you're strainingthe economics, the workforce,
the housing, like all of it, andmedical services.
Yeah, sure, yeah, it's justyou're it's corrosive to a
society is basically it'scorrosive to a society is
basically the way they're doingit Exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's designed to collapse a society.
It's the Cloward-Bivinsstrategy that was taught as a
Marxist strategy foroverthrowing a Western
constitutional republic orconstitutional democracy or a
Western secular, civilizedsociety.
So then that was going on underObama.

(33:10):
Also under Obama, in 2012, heissued an executive order
changing the Smith-Munt Act,which was a post-World War II
law that prohibited usingpropaganda and lies on the

(33:31):
American public for a politicalagenda.
The Smith-Munt Act had alwaysbeen in effect to prevent the
use of propaganda and deceptionagainst the American people
Reception against the Americanpeople.
Obama issued unilaterally anexecutive order in 2012, called

(33:55):
the Smith-Mont Modernization Act, specifically allowed CIA media
, any government agency, anymedia outlet, to use propaganda

(34:16):
to target Americans, tospecifically support government
narratives.
That was the basis for thecensorship that we've been
experiencing, but we saw onsteroids under the COVID era.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
But what was the pretext for why that was a good
idea?
Did they have one?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Because it serves.
No, it serves the governmentagenda, which was moving towards
control of the population,pushing people in to only a
government narrative.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
So they never had to bother trying to sell this to
the american people.
They just did it in secret anddismissed this act.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
So they don't have to bother with the pretense of
well, exactly, and and that wasthe basis for the coordination
of all of the major mediaoutlets, all having the same
script yeah, I didn't know andit was directed by the federal
authorities yes, censorship wasthe thing that woke me up to.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
This is way bigger than pharma.
Never trusted the covidnarrative from day one, but I
didn't get how they could justcensor and be like, yeah, we did
that, so what?
What are you going to do aboutit?
Like it was just a bully thatcould continue to go on and you
find I didn't know about thisact you're talking about.
But my gosh, they.
They were so thorough andmethodical at getting to the
point of covid.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
All for the same agenda they have been building
the pieces and locking us down,tightening the vice for a
hundred years yeah, but that'sand it's only now that people
are beginning to wake up throughthe activism and the truth

(35:57):
tellers that have risked so muchto bring the truth to the
american people and the world.
And then we move into 2016.
And that election was alsorigged.

(36:24):
But they did not anticipate thelandslide response for Trump
and they had not changed enoughof the votes and the plan was
for Hillary Clinton to bepresident and finish the job
that had started under theprevious New World Order folks,

(36:44):
particularly in the Marxist coupthat Obama was putting in place
and the more draconianHillarycare would have followed
from Obamacare.
Because Hillary's 1993 planthat I mentioned in the previous
show was to eliminate allprivate medicine and no private

(37:07):
care and more intensiverationing of medical services,
particularly for the elderly anddisabled.
And the election of PresidentTrump in 2016 absolutely
disrupted their plan for totalsocialized medicine and
government control totally inthe US.

(37:27):
Control totally in the US.
And he did push for free marketreforms and patient freedom to
import lower cost medicines fromother countries.
He cut US funding to the WorldHealth Organization and his
reforms were threats to thisglobal plan to reduce the world
population.
That's why they one of manyreasons they hated him so much

(37:51):
because he was.
He knew their plans and he wasworking to stop them.
So now it was Sean McCain, ifyou you know, the Republicans
had control of the house, theSenate and the presidency at the
beginning of President Trump'sterm, and it was John McCain who

(38:17):
cast the vote that preventedrepeal of Obamacare.
Was Republican rhinos, newWorld Order loyalists, global
predators, who prevented therepeal of Obamacare?
President Trump worked veryhard to do that, reinstituting

(38:55):
more free market reforms andgiving people more ability to
cost, shop and import medicinesfrom countries like Europe and
Canada that had similarregulatory standards.
There's no reason we shouldn'tbe able to buy them from there,
and he put that into place, butit was the sabotage from within
the Republican Party thatprevented him then, just like we
see him being sabotaged by RINO, republican and name only

(39:18):
Republican snail, who arecompromised by their New World
Order allegiance.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, there's so many different theories and threads
about what's going on at thatlevel, but it is.
You can see that the things wecan look at, the things we can
document, definitely point tougly agendas.
I remember in I think it was2019, somebody I think her name
was Heidi at the World HealthOrganization came out and said
the number one threat to publichealth now is vaccine hesitancy,

(39:46):
like couldn't be, like uncleanwater or lack of food.
It's like there are too manypeople who are kind of starting
to wake up and realize thesethings aren't made by angels and
they might have some damage andall the stuff you talked about
last time with Gates influencein Africa and India and what was
becoming known about thatindustry.

(40:08):
They were starting to sound thealarm that this, this could.
The dam might break here andpeople might start not falling
for this anymore.
I just read today I think itwas that the the uptake on
vaccines right now is belowpre-pandemic levels.
People are backing away fromthese things, being like I just
saw how the sausage is made andI want nothing to do with that
anymore, and so well, I think.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
That's why I think that's reasonable, because, for
the most part, most of thethings that they are pushing so
many vaccines for are treatable.
You don't really need them.
And most people.
Most people don't need anannual flu shot.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Right?
Well, never mind what's in it's, they still have mercury in
those things.
Like what in the world out,where, from what frame of
reality, is injecting yourselfwith mercury going to boost your
health like that?
Nobody's been able to answerthat question.
We went to the most toxic endof the periodic table and we're
going to mix this in with someantifreeze and glyphosate and
this is going to help you gethealthy.

(41:04):
Like no I.
I can't even make sense of that.
So anyway, thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
No, no, you're absolutely right.
And now okay.
So the election of presidentTrump threw a monkey wrench,
major monkey wrench, into theirplans.
But remember, I said it was theend of November 2019, 2016,.
I'm sorry no-transcript.

(42:06):
So that was significant becauseRick Bright single-handedly cost
many hundreds of thousands oflives in sabotaging
hydroxychloroquine and he later,in a whistleblower interview,
bragged about the fact that hedid that, that he countermanded
his commander-in-chief and theSecretary of Health and Human
Services, azar Services, azar herefused to follow their orders

(42:31):
to make hydroxychloroquineavailable through the national
stockpile.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And sabotage that.
He did promote that, and thenremember in 2017 that Fauci was
in a video that circulated allover the internet after COVID
was unleashed and said that thenew President Trump would face

(42:58):
an infectious disease, globalpandemic.
Well, how did he know, unless hehad inside information about
the plants?
And there were some very highlysignificant events then in 2019
, right before the novemberelection of 2020.

(43:22):
So, event 2001 at johns hopHopkins, with China's minister
of health attending, along withUS public health officials, and
they simulated a coronaviruspandemic Very similar to what
ultimately rolled out.

(43:42):
And the military games in Chinawere also held in October 2019.
The US military participatedand that's where many were
likely exposed to the SARS-CoV-2that had already been

(44:04):
circulated in China as early aswhat later came out as August
2019.
And then in October andNovember 2019, military and
intelligence personnel returningto the US after being exposed

(44:25):
to SARS-CoV-2.
For example, there were manymilitary flights into the CIA
facility at Camp Perry,williamsburg, virginia, where I
lived for many years beforemoving to Arizona, and
evacuation of embassy personnel.
Many of them came into the CampPerry facility coming back from

(44:50):
Wuhan.
And what's very interesting isthat the little town of
Williamsburg, virginia, was hitunusually hard by COVID in the
first couple of months of theCOVID pandemic, which is not
usual, except for the.
I mean, it's not.

(45:10):
It's not a big city and it'snot like New York or Washington,
where there are huge crowds ofpeople and it's easier to spread
a respiratory illness.
Williamsburg is more spread out.
It's a small town and for thattown to have been hit as hard as
it was because I still havefriends there and I was there in

(45:32):
October of 2019, and maybe evenexposed myself around that time
so it was quite striking howrampant COVID spread in
Williamsburg, virginia, and itwasn't until about a year later
from some of our military peoplethat I learned that that's

(45:56):
where the evacuees from theintelligence community and the
embassy in Wuhan were broughtinto Camp Perry in Williamsburg
in October, november 2019.
Wow.
So then we come to January 2020,and this is an election year.
So what happens?

(46:19):
Suddenly, there's a novel virus.
Yes, they lied about theasymptomatic spread.
They locked everything down andshut down everything that might
help you stay healthy, likegoing out to parks for exercise,

(46:41):
going to church All sorts ofthings were shut down, but
liquor stores, marijuanadispensary and bars and strip
clubs were all open.
So I'll let you draw your ownconclusions from that and then

(47:03):
we move into.
The only solution is the vaccine.
There's no early treatmentanother lie.
And so, all through 2020,doctors like me and my
colleagues who were speaking outabout we have treatment, we can
treat people early.
All of that was beingsuppressed.

(47:26):
Terrorizing the public withCOVID is untreatable unless you
wait for the vaccine, and sopushing everyone into this
experimental vaccine, lyingabout FDA approval this is
another example where Obama'schange in the Smith-Munt Act

(47:46):
allowed them to lie about thefact that the COVID shots were
FDA approved.
They never were.
They still aren't.
They were all experimental.
They were all developed ascountermeasures, which meant
they were not under regulatoryoversight for clinical trials,

(48:09):
for safety, for disclosures ofingredients.
They were developed ascountermeasures and the DOD
contract was for a prototype.
It's all in the court recordsof the Brooke Jackson case
against Pfizer.
Wow Everything.

(48:30):
I've just said.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, they just took the onerous pretense of some
sort of method and testing andsafety and they just oh, that's
so inconvenient.
If we want to poison the people, this is in the way.
We're going to have to find aclever way to get rid of that
need to pretend, and so we canjust create these shots and roll
them out.
And you probably know waybetter than I do that the

(48:53):
breadth of differences by batchand the shoddy workmanship and
the high death rates in somehotspots around the world
there's just so many things thatdon't make sense.
But speak to that a little bit.
Not only did they just erasethe need to pretend they were
doing real science, they thenjust rushed to market things
they knew were going to poisonus and some of the carnage that

(49:15):
we've seen.
So give us your livedexperience of walking through
that.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Well, it's very clear and I connected with Dr Mike
Yeadon early in all of this.
Mike Yeadon early in all ofthis.
I heard his warnings in thefall of October, november 2020
about the risk to pregnancy andfertility and I knew that we had

(49:41):
a serious problem from all thathe and Professor Wolfgang
Wodarg in Germany were warningabout then.
Then I met Dr Yadin in July2021, and that was the point at
which he brought out thatearlier pharma research that
showed the toxicity of the lipidnanoparticles to ovaries and

(50:04):
testicles and I knew that we hadmassive adverse impact coming
on fertility and reproductionand pregnancy.

(50:31):
Started working with ToddCallender after he had sued the
Department of Defense to stopthe mandates in the military and
stop the use of force toadminister the shots.
I started working with him inthe fall of 2021, and that was
when he asked us to develop themedical freedom program and
legal defense grants to help themilitary service members and

(50:52):
civilians but mainly themilitary, because they didn't
have the same freedom to leave ajob that civilians do and help
defend their constitutionalrights for religious exemptions,
medical exemptions and torefuse an experimental shot.
So that was when we beganreally seeing all of the damage

(51:19):
unfolding and the COVID shotsnot only causing death, sudden
death and death of elderlypeople as well as young people,
but also the rising miscarriagerate, the decline in live births

(51:40):
, the spontaneous abortions thatwere occurring, infertility
problems skyrocketing, men'stesticular function damage.
So it was very clear that thedamage from the shots were
causing death and disability,but also it was fitting the

(52:04):
design to adversely affectreproduction, which was the
long-term populationdepopulation agenda.
And many people don't knowabout.
The DAGEL report and that'sspelled D-E-A-G-E-L was a

(52:36):
website that one of the bigareas was a focus on population
changes to come and the Daiglereport daiglecom in 2023, 2022,
2023, 2022-2023, made theprojection of a 78% decline in

(53:00):
population of the UK by 2025,declines in population of Israel
, australia, us, canada,essentially all of the Western
European and North American andWestern countries like Australia
, new Zealand.
The Daiglecom website hadpopulation declines anywhere

(53:21):
from 35 to 78 percent in thosecountries by 2025.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
In those countries by 2025.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
So they're expecting we are seeing that we are seeing
those declines playing out.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Maybe not at that scale, but what you're saying is
there's a definite reversal ofpopulation growth.
Is that?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
fair Reversal, an actual increase in loss of
population.
The US suffered the biggestinfant mortality increase in 20
years in 2022.
Live births are down anywherefrom 15 to 20 percent across

(54:13):
european countries that areheavily vaccinated.
It's staggering, I mean.
I mean.
The numbers are trulystaggering.
In fact, edward dowd and othershave projected that we may well
be on track to meet the daigleprojections by 2025.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
That's next year, that's not I know 2050.
That's what's shocking about it.
I know I didn't realize thenumbers of live births had gone
down that much, but by gollythey have been effective at
executing this plan.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Oh, it's devastating.
It's absolutely devastating.
Devastating, it's absolutelydevastating.
In fact, some of the expertsthat I've interviewed for our
whistleblower report talk aboutthe danger of population
collapse, not excessivepopulation right which makes the

(55:04):
we are below replacement yeah,across most of the Western
countries.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I knew that was trending down.
I didn't know it was fallingoff a cliff like that.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yes, it's falling off a cliff.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Dang, that is significant.
All right.
Well, let's get us to presentday and we'll start giving the
listeners some hope.
There is always light at theend of the tunnel here.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Well, let's just go back to a couple of other points
OK.
All cause.
Mortality is skyrocketing inheavily vaccinated countries,
and this was just six months ago.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
OK.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Data from Europe Croatia this is all causes of
death.
The percent increase since theshots rolled out.
Croatia 14.6% increase in allcauses of death.
Italy 25%.
Portugal, almost 29%.

(56:07):
Greece 31%.
Spain 37%.
Iceland, 56%.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Where can people go?
Look this up.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Well, it was quoted in our whistleblower report that
aired in November 2023, and itwas presented at the European
Parliament by a former judge andmember of the European

(56:40):
Parliament.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Wow, I've been pretty decent about keeping up with
things and I had not heard that.
That's concerning, and ifthere's anything that can maybe
start waking up some more people, that would be a great set of
statistics to do that, mygoodness.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
So tell people listening to your program to go
back and look at the archive ofour whistleblower reports and
all of the topics and thestatistics that we've been and
the damage that we've beenreporting on for the last two
years.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah, I think so many of us just like we have the
COVID hangover, we just I don'twant to even talk about it
anymore.
I just want to move on with mylife and not deal with that.
And if we don't understandwhat's happening, it's there's a
blind spot there.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Well and Christian.
To your point about coming totoday and what do we do and
what's a hopeful message as weneed to wrap up this program.
First of all, my unequivocalmessage is the COVID shots were

(57:43):
toxic by design, as Dr Mike Edenhas said thousands of times,
and I agree.
I have looked into the researchextensively.
I've been treating people whogot the shots, who were healthy
until they did and now arehaving all kinds of problems.
People I've had as patients for25 years who have just their

(58:05):
health has fallen off a cliffsince they got the shots and the
boosters.
So point number one stop gettingthe experimental COVID shots.
Don't get the avian flu shots,because they're the same mRNA
technology, they're the sameexperimental types of injections

(58:26):
.
They aren't studied types ofinjections.
They aren't studied, theyhaven't had field trials and
they have ingredients that wereknown to be toxic from previous
years.
For example, with the swine fluthere's a squalene ingredient
that was toxic.
That was one of the reasonsthat the swine flu vaccine was
pulled off the market.

(58:48):
And so you've just got to lookat doing the things you can do
to be healthy Eat right,exercise, stress management,
prayer and meditation,nutraceuticals, vitamins and do
your best to take care of thehealth of your body and you

(59:09):
don't need all of theseexperimental injections.
We have the Vaccine InjuryTreatment Guide on our website.
We have the COVID EarlyTreatment Guide.
All of those guides, theRadiation Injury Treatment Guide
all of those treatment guidesgive you a roadmap to stay

(59:32):
healthy, to repair damage and totake the steps to improve your
health and resilience.
And, fundamentally, we need toall look at the fact that our
bodies, our mind, our spiritualconnection with our creator are
God's design.

(59:52):
And all of these pharma,vaccines and many of the
medications that are beingpushed to treat the
complications of the shots, manyof them are altering the design
of our body and furtherimpairing our health, altering
the design of our body andfurther impairing our health,

(01:00:13):
while they're making money forbig pharma and while they are
driving us on the road to a slowdeath.
So I really think it'simportant that people need to
read the information that we'veworked hard to create for you,
to give you a step-by-stepaction plan of what you can do
to improve your health andresilience and not give in to

(01:00:36):
the lies and the deception thatsomehow there's a magic drug or
a magic vaccine that's going tofix you.
Most of them just end upcausing more side effects and
more damage and more problemsjust end up causing more side
effects and more damage and moreproblems.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah Well, as a health coach who I'm jumping up
and down in my seat saying yesto all of the lifestyle things
you're talking about that's thework I do every day is helping
people master the basics and getsuch a solid foundation of
health that all these othermedications and superfluous
things that we add can just fallto the wayside because you
don't need them anymore.
You have a clear understandingof what's really going on, you

(01:01:13):
can enjoy health and you canactually get back in the fight
rather than living from a placeof fear, and you can get on with
a life that's meaningful andmake a difference where you can.
So thank you so much for doingthe work you do.
Thank you for the relentlessfight, for having the courage to
have this discussion.
It's hard to find a doctor, onewho knows this that well, but

(01:01:33):
two who's willing to talk aboutit at length and just lay down
and say, look, this is ugly,folks, but we've got to face it
and once we do, we can actuallydo something about it.
So thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
You have to know the plans of the enemy if you are
going to put on the full armorof God and stand against them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Right, you can't fight an enemy.
You can't see.
This is the art of war here andwe're hoping to give you some
more tools and armor andperspective.
Just to when you hearnarratives now, just say maybe
and question things and don't beafraid that you can't overcome
this, that your body is somehowflawed and the body can't fix
things.
It knows how to heal, but youhave to do your part in the

(01:02:12):
effort to live that life.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
So any final thoughts or comments?
You want to leave the listenerwith no.
I just want to remind everyonethat at our core, we are
spiritual beings and we werecreated by God, not government.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
We were created by God, not government and I urge
everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
We are under assault and there are those who want to
end our life.
We need to turn back to God andwe need to pray that God will
guide us through the deeds ofthe evildoers and help us all
stand against them the deeds ofthe evildoers and help us all

(01:02:52):
stand against them and that ournation will turn back to God so
that we can continue to goforward in all of the positive
ways that have, over our history, made America great.
So thank you for having me,christian.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Just for anybody who's listening, tell them where
they can find your workwwwtruthforhealthorg, for the
public charity work that I doand all of the resources I've
just been talking about.
And then my medical website iswwwvive.
That's V-I-V-E lifecentercom.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Fantastic, All right folks and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I do still see patients.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yes, all these years later, you are still in the
trenches, and that's why it'ssuch an honor to have you.
I know your time is valuable,so thanks for spending it with
me today.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Thank you very much, god bless.
Keep up the great work.
All right Thank you very much.
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