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Speaker 1 (00:06):
A former actress and longtime personal fitness coach,
jj Flizanes has focused theselast few years on helping people
identify the reasons they oftenfall short of their goals,
goals such as weight loss,enjoying successful
relationships, successful workor just finding happiness.
Through her several popularpodcasts that include Fit to

(00:28):
Love and Spirit, purpose andEnergy, as well as her books, jj
helps people identify theobstacles to success and how to
manage or correct them tofinally achieve the goals you
desire.
Jj is especially adept atidentifying the internal
dialogues that people conductwith themselves that often
result in self-sabotagedialogues that many are

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completely unaware of.
So in this episode of DefiantHealth, jj therefore describes
her unique approach that shealso shares in her book, the
Invisible Fitness Formula.
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(01:54):
Welcome, jj, great to have youback.
I've been on your podcast,you've been on mine, we've gone
back and forth and learned fromeach other, but I've always
loved your message of removingobstructions to people's success
, whether it was financial orrelationships or weight loss,
whatever.
And then, of course, you'vewritten or re-released your book
, the Invisible Fitness Formula.

(02:16):
So I wanted to get an ideawhere this all came from and
what motivated you to write thisbook in the first place.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, thank you, it's a pleasure to be back.
I always enjoy speaking to you.
An hour is never enough timeand I know you probably keep
your podcasts less than an hour.
I probably want it to stretchyou out a little bit longer than
maybe you're comfortable with.
But love our deep, intricateconversations.
I think they're all veryimportant.
And back in 2017 is when Ipublished the first version of
the Invisible Fitness FormulaFive Secrets to Release Weight

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and End Body Shame, because Iwas already starting to I'd
start the podcast in 2017, in2014.
So in 2014 is when I launchedFit to Love.
And then in 2016 is when Ibranched out from Fit to Love
into five other shows, includingSpirit, purpose and Energy.
So in 2016, I really learnedthat people were craving me to
move in the direction of emotion, of attraction, energy,

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frequency, happiness, againgetting blocks out of the way,
emotional roadblocks out ofsuccess and abundance and money
and the whole thing.
And so, as I was going downthat path and really, really
wanting to talk about and thoseof you that have heard me before
either on Dr Davis or Shara, onmine, I mean I was talking to
all of my clients my weight loss, personal training clients

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about their emotions.
Because I'd have somebody whowas I'd be there twice a week
giving them a great resistancetraining workout.
They would do their one or two,three days of cardio.
Whatever they would do, wewould track their heart rate.
We would make sure it was anefficient use of time.
But there are parts of yourbrain that aren't the
disciplined parts of your brain,right.
So we have our sort of our leftbrain part that says I'm going

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to be disciplined and I'm goingto do the work and that's what
gets you to make the rightchoices about what you're eating
.
But then there are other partsof your brain, your right brain,
holds all the emotions.
And so, let's say, you gettriggered and you're really sad
or you're really mad and youdon't know how to cope with your
emotions.
What do you do?
What do you drink them?
So people kind of fall off thewagon.
It's natural if you don't knowhow to deal with your emotions.

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So to me, the emotionalconversation was always part of
this whole package, because youcan do the best exercise and
have the best diet, but if youdon't know how to deal with your
triggers, you don't know how toheal the wounds of your
emotions, your beliefs, thenwhen you get triggered, it's a
crap show Whether or not we'regoing to be able to stick
through and white knucklethrough all of the ways that we
discipline ourselves in oureating and our exercise in our,

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in our habits.
So I had always been talking tomy clients about the emotional
piece.
But of course, I had a lot ofmen and I had a lot of
successful entrepreneurs andbusiness owners who are too busy
to focus on their emotions orto actually take time.
They don't think it's valuable.
So you know I'm talking to anaudience that isn't really
interested in this work.
So, as I know that I'm movingaway from, I'm moving away from

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the physical sciences.
It's important and to me,epigenetics and quantum physics
is above all of the physicalsciences.
It influences how our bodyreacts to things.
So that's where I want to go.
And but I've done.
I've been a personal trainer for25 years at this point, so I
thought I've learned a fewthings.
I've been in this business along time.

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I've been very successful withmy clients.
I'm a very good personaltrainer.
It's why I stayed longer than Ishould have, because I'm
excellent.
I have all the components, thebiomechanics, of the thing that
keeps your joints from wearingdown.
Oh my gosh, that was so hard tolet go of, because we all
understand break pads.
Your break pads wear.
It's part of what happens whenyou drive a car.
Well, your joints have breakpads, it's your cartilage but

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you only get one set.
So the exercise you do caneither degenerate your break
pads sooner or can help Like ifyou do exercise in certain ways,
you can prevent that fromhappening.
I had a 70 year old client whowent to a physical therapist
after working with me for acouple of years.
I forget what happened to him.
There wasn't anything major,but when he went they looked at

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him and he had a lot ofcartilage.
They were actually verysurprised and all the exercises
that I had done with him theywere giving to him.
So he's like, yeah, I knewyou're on to something.
So I helped preserve his jointslonger by the biomechanics and
the focus that I have on that.
So that's kind of why it washard for me to leave, but I
thought I want to honor my timeas a trainer.
I want to be able to sit backand look at 25 years of what do

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I think is the most successfuland what is the order in which
people want to do the things inorder to get the best results.
So, knowing that the majorityof people were not going to
start with the emotions, I cameup with the five secrets to
release weight and end bodyshame.
So my book is called theInvisible Fitness Formula Five
Secrets to Release Weight andEnd Body Shame.
This is the second edition.
It won't have thisnot-for-resale stripe on it, so,

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other than that it looks likethis, it has red on it.
That's how you know.
It's the new book and Irecorded an audiobook to go
along with it.
So it's the Invisible FitnessFormula.
Invisible Fitness is the name ofmy company and I wanted to just
sort of boil down what Ithought anyone could follow in
terms of the steps and the orderin which to do them.
That's very, very important.
I am very methodical.

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I am very scientific.
I used to give my clientsexercise routines to do on their
own and be surprised when I'dsay did you do it?
They said, yeah, I did a few ofthem and they'd like I write
them one, two, three, four, andthey do like the third one or
the tenth one.
I'm like hold on Now, Iliterally wrote it as a
prescription, you're supposed todo it in the order, in the way
that I wrote it.
That's why I wrote it that way.

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So this is a prescription, ifyou will, of what I think is the
most important things, in theorder in which they need to be
taken care of to have the mostsuccess with releasing weight
and ending body shame.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
So this is not a physical exercise program, right
?
It's something entirelydifferent.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, physical exercise is one of the five
steps, of course, but it isn'tthe first step.
Actually, it's the second step.
So I wanted to boil down all ofthe and I had been doing the
podcast at that point for threeyears and all the information
talking about all the thingsthat we've been talking about,
like when I went back to revisitredoing this book, and the
reason why I did it was becausethe publisher that I was working

(08:05):
with sort of changed hands andI didn't really like what was
happening and so you couldn'tget my book if it wasn't used
recently.
And I thought, well, let's fixthat.
And not to mention, I'm writinganother book.
And I thought, well, I shouldprobably do the audiobooks.
Like, I have a podcast, mightbe nice to have an audiobook to
sell to my audience of listeners.
And so all of that meant I justlooked at it and thought, let

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me go through it again.
And as I was reading it andediting it and recording it, I
was surprised by how much of theinformation is still relevant
today.
Again, it's going to give youthe basic steps, it's going to
give you the basic information,but, of course, come back to the
podcast to get up to dateinformation to get the next
level of information.
But this is still today what Iwould recommend to anybody who's

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been struggling with weightloss resistance, with being able
to deal with body shame andweight loss, but from a broader
perspective and a long termcommitment to health, not a
short term commitment.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Can you give us an idea what these steps are?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Absolutely so.
The first one surprise,surprise is about your gut and
about your digestion.
So if you have digestive issues, as I'm sure all of your
audience knows and all of yourpeople, then we're not going to
get too far.
We have to sort of deal withthat heal, that.
Look at that.
And for a lot of people and Idon't go too deep into getting
tested and things at this pointI'm just talking about food

(09:21):
elimination diets and reallyjust trying to remove some food
and reduce some of theinflammation.
It's funny my neighbors we had avery fun holiday season around
here and so the neighbors whoaren't big health people are on
a diet and so I didn't want tosay anything.
When the wife I had asked heryou know I think Doug had asked

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her how's it going and she waswell, I lost eight pounds in two
weeks.
And in my head I thought, right, most of that's water.
You didn't lose eight pounds offat in two weeks.
But to her, so this is reallysuccessful, I've lost eight
pounds, eight pounds.
But the majority of people,when they are looking at the
scale and there's even a chaptercalled divorcing the scale,
because again I think it's avery unhealthy thing that we do

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is to decide to step on thisthing that's going to tell us a
number that we then take andmake it mean something.
We make it mean that we've beengood or bad, or we're good
looking or we're not goodlooking, or we're worthy of love
or we're not worthy of love,and so I think it's a very, very
dysfunctional, not helpfuloverall.
Yes, it's a way to measureengage, but the way that we

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approach the scale is completelydysfunctional.
But so she's looking at thiseight pounds and I'm thinking,
well, it wasn't fat, but I don'twant to tell her that.
I don't want to discourage her,but it isn't fat.
And so I'm looking at how do we?
I've gone through programs ofpeople over the course of.
I took, I did a three monthprogram.
It was online, I had clientsall over the place and you know
and I this is how I did it.
I did.

(10:43):
We're going to deal with yourfood first.
I never made them diet, I nevermade them count calories, I
never made them do right.
They didn't have to follow anyspecific meal plans.
We just looked at what foods doyou crave, what foods do, I
think, irritate you?
Let's try to replace them orcut them out and all of a sudden
they're not having any morecravings, they are losing weight
, they're sleeping better, allthe same signs.

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So again to me, looking atdigestion versus what food plan
should I be eating?
What kind of food should I beeating?
Was more important and neededto be taken care of, because of
course, you can lose weightwithout exercising.
But ultimately that won't lasttoo long either, because your
metabolism over time will change.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Is there a common thread in your diet
prescriptions that most peoplewill follow and works?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, I go gluten free, of course, and dairy free,
because I was more dairy freeat the time.
I'm not as much now.
I kind of go in and out thejury's out on that, because when
you go more grain free, like Iwould like to enjoy my foods,
I'm like, I'm looking at thingsthat taste good, I'm like, and
dairy tastes good, but my systemdoesn't really like it very
much.
It doesn't overreact, but itdoesn't really digest it well.

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So I know that's also a gutissue.
But looking at I'll just say,you know, looking at vegetables,
adding more vegetables, ofcourse, and probiotics, of
course, and more fiber, ofcourse, and gluten free, and
looking down the range of grainfree.
I have a client who she's beenwith me for, let's say, 2011.
So we've been 12 years now.

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She's been my client for 12years and when I first started
working with her, she was seeinga therapist at the time and I'm
sure she's listening orwatching.
She was with a therapist andthey were dealing with food
addiction and like overeatingfood addiction.
But the therapist and themethods which work but they're
again, they're based oncontrolling environments,

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controlling people, controllingstimulus, controlling, you know,
environments that you think aredangerous for you and I, and
that really helped me learn howto do things differently and
look at how actually we heal.
To me I've my quote is healingis when you're different in the
same situation.
You can't control circumstancesall the time.
To me, you are healed when youact and feel differently in the

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same situation.
Not avoid it so, because thenyou give your power away.
But this client?
So I worked with her as apersonal trainer for many years,
but in the first couple yearstwo to three years she lost 100
pounds and she only worked outtwice a week.
And her stories in this bookshe only worked out twice a week
.
So what we did was manipulatethe program because most people
think in order to lose a lot ofweight, I have to, I have to

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really like many hours, I haveto go extreme.
And we didn't do any of that.
In fact, she didn't even followany kind of super diet program
at all.
It was more of looking at whenshe did her exercise, how she
did it, when she got strongerand plateaued, how we make it
harder.
We did, we played with all ofthe things, but it came off
slowly and she kept it off for avery long time.

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Now it came back on later inlife when she, her parents, both
had died and she was dealingwith the stress of that.
But I believe that's because inthe therapy part we didn't
actually learn how to deal withthe emotion, we just learned how
to control situations andcircumstances.
But back to the success storyof that, which is that she was
able to lose 100 pounds in acouple of years, only working
out twice a week.

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So I bust the myths of all ofthe things that people think
they need to do in order to getmassive results.
So, going back to the foodconversation, if somebody isn't
willing or ready to give up allgrains, right then where do we
start?
Well, let's start with glutenfree.
If someone's not willing togive up all dairy and again, I'm
not willing to give up, give upanything, because I love food.

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I'm a Greek Italian for cryingout loud.
So what I do is replace.
But until somebody either wantsto cook, learns to cook, or
wants to buy it, how do Isatisfy this craving that I have
with a healthier version?
I'm the queen of that.
That's why I started thepodcast.
I have cooking videos on Fit toLove.
So if you go to my YouTubechannel jadefilzanetv.
It was called Easy, paleo,gluten and Dairy Free Cooking.

(14:36):
Easy was the term.
Okay, how do I go shopping?
How do I make things that arehealthy, easy and delicious?
And that is what I did for thefirst couple of years of the Fit
to Love podcast.
So it's really looking at allthe different ways we can
manipulate this information andhow to do it.
And I start off with the Foodand the next thing, of course,
is the exercise and and I wantedto Address that when you reduce

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inflammation, you reducecravings.
And since that's the thing thatmost people Don't understand,
when they want to dye it like Ithink they're going like low fat
, I'm thinking, oh my god, don'tdo that.
You know the fat.
I didn't say anything.
No one asked.
They're not asking, so they'renot listening, but they know
what I do.
If they want some informationfrom me, they'll ask me, but in
terms of and you know this, ofcourse, you teach this that if

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we have inflammation and it'sfood related and it's going to
cause cravings, and I had tolook at over time how much of
this is psychological and howmuch of this is biochemical.
And there's a huge part of thisbiochemical that, when we
reduce inflammation.
We, we, I had the experiencewith pizza, so Notice everybody
if you're listening or watchingthat I said the word pizza.
What happens to you?
Did you start to salivate?

(15:41):
I used to salivate at thethought of pizza and then, after
going gluten-free for a month,I lost six pounds in a week
because it was water weight.
And then I went buy a pizzaplace and I didn't salivate.
I thought that was so uniqueand interesting.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
Well, psychologically, I cancrave it.
My body is reacting differentlybecause I'd taken it out of my

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diet.
So that's one of the things Iam.
I want to impress upon peoplewhen they're looking at how they
eat, and Not everyone's goingto be willing and ready to start
with getting rid of everythingor learning how to replace
everything.
I take people through astep-by-step process of what a
food elimination diet looks likeand how to do it, and I offer
again videos and support.
I even created a five monthprogram, a video program, to go

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along with this.
It was called the InvisibleFitness Formula transformation,
and so you could go so that way,each section of the book,
rather than reading it, youcould do it, and and that was an
important piece because that'swhat I focus on now.
I don't just teach information.
I do three, six or twelve monthprograms of people so you can
embody it.
You can deal with what happenswhen you get triggered or it's

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uncomfortable for you becauseotherwise learning information
Does not change your behavior oryour habits until you integrate
it into your daily Living,which takes time.
You're not going to learnsomething today and then all of
a sudden change your whole lifetomorrow, even if you want to do
that, if you're going to haveto, over time, test it out,
create neural pathways, createneural plasticity in your brain

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In order for those things toshift and for them to change.

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What do you call it invisible?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
so back in 2001, when I started my company, I Worked
with with the best branding Ilove, jack.
Shout out to Jack, if you'restill alive, I'm Jack, you're
amazing.
And when we talked about whatmy specialty was as a trainer so
go back to this is me as atrainer and I said, well, most
trainers and again, I was muchyounger than I am now but I was

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still extremely passionate aboutI only mentioned the age thing
because I was it was likemisplaced.
I was a young person really,really, really interested in
your joints and the biomechanicsof your joints and the things I
explained earlier about thebrake pads.
I Was looking at people andit's very easy to do just look
around.
Look around at people who areaging and Aging well and people

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who are aging and not aging well.
You're looking at your future.
What you do today is going toimpact what happens to in five
or ten years from now.
If you're someone who exercisessort of without understanding
how to apply Resistance to thebody in a safe and effective way
for your muscles and yourjoints without putting your
joints at risk, which mostpeople don't know I got super

(21:11):
excited about biomechanics.
I could see like, when I lookat a body, I'm looking at the
biomechanics.
I'm looking at where the forceis is hitting the, the joint,
and whether or not the positionof the joint is going to be able
to Receive that force well.
Or if I'm going to pull amuscle or I'm going to wear down
my brick like like walkinglunges.
I'll just give you a goodexample.
I hate walking lunges.

(21:31):
They're dumb.
Let me tell you why they'redumb because if you're looking
to build muscle, that first ofall, there's no reason we need
to walk and do this motion.
There's no thing in life thatwe walk and do this motion.
Okay, now, most of exercisedoesn't mimic life anyway.
So there's a reason to do somethings, but you're, you're the
compression and what happens towhen you, when you rub your

(21:52):
bones together, that wears downyour joints.
So we have compression, whichis normal.
We all live in gravity, butwhen you move, with it right,
and now we have Translation.
Translation is another scienceor another another force in your
joints Train.
We don't want translation.
Translation is rubbing it inthis direction.
Compression, fine, translation,not awesome.

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So when we're looking atresistance training, my goal for
you to do resistance trainingis to build your skeletal muscle
, to get Hypertrophy to make themuscle more dense yes, stronger
, but more dense, because it'sgoing to increase your
metabolism.
It's gonna increase yourresting metabolism.
It's gonna increase yourworking metabolism.
It's going to increase yourbone.
It's going to help you not getinjured, because you'll be able

(22:35):
to do things in life and notlose muscle strength.
So if I'm looking to buildmuscle, there is a way to do it.
There's a physiological way toapply force to the body to get
the desired result that you want.
And most people don't know thateither.
So they're doing little weightslike women.
Oh, I don't want that big of amuscle.
So I'm gonna pick up littleweights and do lots of times I'm

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like, well, you're not gonnabuild any muscle that way
because you're not gonna adapt,because you can do it if it's
easy, then you, your body,doesn't need to change.
Let me say that again withexercise, if you can do it and
it's easy, there's no need forthe body to adapt into anything
better.
Your exercise routine needs tostimulate you into failure,

(23:18):
controlled failure, with goodBiomechanics, so you don't wreck
your joints.
So this was sort of thecombination of, of Making sure
that when someone's doing aprogram, that they understand
all these components right.
So so that was why you see howgeeked out again I get, geeked
out about biomechanics andpreserving your joints.
And again, I was in my likeearly 20s.
So and I'm talking to peoplewho want to lose weight, they

(23:40):
don't care about their joints.
You know, cares about theirjoints, people with joint
problems, that's who cares abouttheir joints.
So so when I look, when I workedwith Jack and we talked about
what my specialty was, it was onthe things that create the
visible.
It was all the invisible forcesthat create the visible and it
was making sure that, regardlessof whether it was biomechanics
or biochemistry or, at thispoint, everything else

(24:03):
underneath that, evenepigenetics I mean I grew into
this brand very well.
It really I can do all thethings under invisible fitness.
I still obviously have thatname because it's a corporation,
but invisible fitness formula.
It's everything from mental tophysical.
But all the things that we'retalking about, even what you're
talking about is invisible.
You can't see it.
You can't see it's inside thebody, it, these are things that
are happening, these chemicaland electrical and you know,

(24:24):
these processes that our bodyhas.
It's invisible before it'sbefore it's visible.
All this invisible forces andstuff that goes on creates what
we see.
So I'm looking at what'sunderneath the hood.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So resistance or strength training is an
important component of your, ofyour approach.
How do you do that in the book?
Are there specific exercises?
Are there specific ways to?
If I'm gonna do a lat pulldown,for instance, and that's my way
of building back muscles, howdo you convey that message?
Jj?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, on my YouTube channel I have literally the
correct form for all exercisesfor free.
So everybody can go to JJ's ans T TV and go to the fit to
love Movement Mondays soplaylist, because that's where
all of the videos got put in.
I also have a, like I said, aprogram that goes with this that
someone can buy and actuallyfollow along, and I get a little

(25:14):
bit more specific in there.
But if you're just looking fora form, you can go to JJ's a ns
TV and and get it for free.
But I go over the plan.
There's a really simple planand now I will explain it a
little here.
But I do want you to get thebook.
It's called the fit principleand I've been using it forever
FITT, frequency, intensity, timeand type.
This is what you're going toevaluate about your exercise

(25:37):
program.
You're gonna evaluate yourcardio and you're gonna evaluate
your resistance training andthis is why I was so.
I was very successful as atrainer like 50 to 80 percent
close rate, because all I had todo was show you the fit
principle.
I would get people especiallyagain men successful, busy man
who said, no, I'm verydisciplined to exercise every
day or five days a week.
I'm like great.
And I would go over what theydid exactly and I would say and

(26:00):
what kind of results do you get?
And they look at me and saywhat results?
Well, what results are yougetting from your exercise?
And because they've been doingthe same thing for so long, they
weren't getting any moreresults.
In fact, I could even guaranteethat they were backsliding
because they weren't movingforward.
Now, I couldn't, that wasn'tthe conversation.
But then when I went to well,here are some other things that

(26:20):
we could change to get you moreresults.
How about we build more muscle?
How about you increase yourmetabolism?
How about we increase your bone?
How about we fix your knees?
I'm like the queen of fixingknees, especially in person,
because exercises that peopledon't do normally are at the gym
and they don't understand andat home.
I focused on being a personaltrainer at home because it was
easy to help people with bodyweight exercises and a lot of

(26:41):
things that you can do at hometo stimulate new muscles.
Let me tell you one more quickstory about a woman that I had.
She was well at the time.
She must have been in herseventies Crooked oh my gosh,
that woman.
She just walked very crooked,she was overweight.
And of course here's somebodywho is overweight and crooked
and has pain and when I meetwith her, what does she want?
Weight loss?
I'm like, oh my God, okay.

(27:02):
So you're kind of like so themachine is a little broken, it's
not put together well and if wemake it work harder it's going
to keep breaking down.
I kind of need to put you backtogether before we can make this
whole thing work harder to loseweight.
Yes, and she was like okay, soI had her on the floor doing we
were activating the inner thighmuscles, the adductors, and we

(27:26):
were doing some core work on thefloor.
We were doing some quad work.
We were doing some, anyway,some hip work on the floor.
Two weeks I come in on thefourth session.
So I saw her three times on thefourth session.
She walked in and she waswalking better.
She was like gliding and shewas limping before and I said,
lee, you look like you'rewalking better.
She goes, I am, she's like it'samazing.

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Did I build muscle in two weeks?
I said no, we activated muscle.
What we did was we used yourbrand to turn on muscle fibers
that you haven't used in a while.
So now they're turned on, theycan help you walk, and she was
like, oh my God, that's amazing.
So, yes, resistance training isa big part of it, but obviously
in this case, in other cases,that's where a trainer and an

(28:08):
educated, very well-educatedtrainer becomes very important
for someone to work with forthat specific programming for
them.
I became known because of thejoint situation and because I
could handle most injuries.
Unfortunately, I became reallywell known for people that had
like six and seven injuriesbecause I could still work them
out and help them get strongerand help them through some of
that.
But then I didn't want to workwith those people because some

(28:30):
of those things were stressrelated and emotional related.
So I just focused on the peoplewho had like one injury, like
the back pain or the knee painor the shoulder pain, like I can
work with those and thenhelping people sort of rehab
through that and not everybody,but a lot of people, especially
a lot of men with knees.
Don't ask me if I can't showyou right now, but a lot of
exercise that I can say help tohelp people's knees.

(28:50):
But I do have them on my fit tolove or jedifloseinstv.
So there are a couple of videoslike to help with knees, to
help with ankles, to help withmaybe not back, but lots of
hours and hours and hours offree content.
You guys can go through to seeall the exercises.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Now I know you have a special interest In an era I'm
very lax about and that isidentifying obstructions or
impediments to success.
Can you give us some red flagsso that you see that, tell you
somebody is blocking their ownsuccess?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Are we talking about in weight loss and in health, or
just in life in general?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Both.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Okay, well, again, even today is hard for me to go
to the gym I mean, we were thereyesterday because I look around
and I wanna scream.
I wanna scream at these peoplewho are doing things and they
really don't know what they'redoing and they're either gonna
hurt themselves or they're notgonna get the results that they
want.
Because it used to be my job,it was very easy for me to go hi
.
Can I ask?
I'm the trainer.

(29:48):
Can I ask a question?
What do you hope to get fromthis exercise, this very
specific machine that you're onand the way that you're doing it
?
Do you know how many peoplecan't answer that?
Most people can't answer that.
They would say, oh, because I'msupposed to, or because that's
what he told me to do, orbecause I saw that other guy and
he looks good and so I'mfollowing what he's doing.
But, like, there's a lot ofscience that goes into your

(30:09):
exercise routine and so some ofthe red flags would be, if you
don't take that intoconsideration and ask the right
questions Over the years, Iwould laugh at people.
Not laugh at them, but likelaugh at the fact that people
would go to like, let's say, aPilates class or a Hatha yoga
class and they would expect alot of weight loss.
And I'm like why would youexpect a lot of weight loss in a

(30:30):
Hatha yoga class, which is theeasiest, simplest, low key, low
impact exercise?
Half the time you're stretchingand laying on the floor, like
why would you think you weregonna get a lot of weight loss
from that?
Well, because it's exercise.
Because I spent an hour outsideof my house taking a class.
Well, all classes aren't thesame, just like all calories
aren't the same.
So we have to look at, like, bedetailed about your program and

(30:51):
find the information, find thesciences about what, ask the
very basic question why am Idoing what I'm doing and am I
getting results?
Buy the book, go to page thefit principle page I'll tell you
what it is right now and fillit out and see where you're
lacking, because I promise thatit's this idea that all exercise
.
Oh, I'm just gonna exercise.

(31:12):
I used to joke that doctorswould say to the patients well,
just exercise more.
I'm like, what the hell doesthat mean?
Just exercise more?
That could be anything fromtaking a walk to running a
marathon.
Those two things are not thesame.
Exercise more.
That is the dumbest thing I'veever heard and the most
irresponsible way to tellsomebody to get results, because
we don't take exerciseseriously, like a real science

(31:33):
and it is so.
Some of the red flags would bethat you just jump from thing to
thing to thing and you reallynever stay put to do a proper
plan.
I'm telling you and you don'tneed me necessarily, but the
book will help you with thisproper plan you will start to
think about things differentlyin terms of your application, of
your food for sure, yourexercise for sure, and then all

(31:53):
the other things that I talkabout in the book.
So if you're a classic starterand you do all the different
programs, all the differentthings, then there may be
something else going on.
Now, when it comes toemotionally, if you tend to beat
yourself up because you startsomething, you get results, then
you fall off.
Don't beat yourself up.
You're looking at the wrongthing.
You're trying to overcome notloving yourself by losing weight

(32:18):
and thinking that's gonnaautomatically make you love
yourself, which is why I do whatI do now, which is called
rewiring your core woundpatterns.
That's my newest program.
It's a three month programwhere people rewire their core
wound patterns.
We get to the bottom.
It's like looking at.
To me it's the same applicationas blood work.
You're looking, or a gut test.
Here's the data.
Well, what's my data?

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To look at the things of thefoundation of your entire
existence that you are livingfrom, the beliefs that were
created between the ages of zero, while you were in the womb, up
until maybe nine or 10, andthen any traumas, major traumas
that happened after that thatreally created your belief about
yourself in the world, and themodels that you had, and the

(32:59):
parenting or lack of parentingthat you had, and the wounds
that were created by yourcaregivers.
We can't ignore these.
That's why, if you go to liketherapy for 10 years and
nothing's changed, you're notlooking at the right thing.
We haven't gotten to.
How do you so?
Here's what I've been developingover time.
It's called the Corwin map andthat you know I don't do the
Corwin work in this book, but Imentioned that the emotional

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piece is in there, right, it'slike down the line.
It's after the physical pieces,because once people deal with
their food and nutrition andtheir exercise and their
hormones and they're in balance,now we can tell whether or not
something is emotional orbiochemical.
Now, when you had some resultsand a little bit of a bigger
foundation.
Now we're willing to go intothe deeper work, potentially.
So if you've done all of thephysical things, you know where

(33:44):
your hormones are and you'veseen your doctor and you're
great and you're optimally.
You know your cortisol, you'reall in check with your adrenal
hormones, you're not in adrenalfatigue and you're still
suffering, it's because yourhabits and choices are coming
from a place of, let's say, froma wounded place of trying to
get love and attention.
And if you don't ever want tolook at that, then you're

(34:04):
probably gonna stay in the cyclefor a long time.
Because ultimately and I don'tmean any disrespect by this who
cares?
Who cares if you are thin orlook good or what?
Who cares?
A lot of people live just fine.
I'm not saying quality of life,but literally who cares?
What does that mean for you andfor a lot of people, what they
look like means whether they getlove or not, and that's

(34:25):
actually not true.
But that's what we're chasing.
So the diets and the weightloss programs are often chasing
if I look better, someone willlove me.
If I look better, I will loveme.
Well, guess what?
You have to love you, beforeyou start any of this, to be
successful, because otherwise,when it's gonna be a constant,
you're constantly in victimmentality and circumstance.

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You're in a control situation ofsaying, well, I gained five
pounds, I'm no longer lovable,it's exhausting, which is why
people give up and they stoptrying.
Because they do the thing,thinking, oh, my God, I lost
some weight, I'm feeling reallygood.
They get triggered and they go,oh, I'm terrible.
Then they eat because theydon't know how to sue their
emotions or process them.
And then they start again.
They go okay, I feel betterabout myself, I'm gonna do
another program.
Okay, I lost weight, I feelgreat.

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I get triggered, oh man again.
And then eventually you give upbecause you think this is a lot
of work and it doesn't last.
And the reason it doesn't lastisn't because you never have a
good plan.
The reason is because thestimulus and the triggers that
you have underneath this yourown self-worth issues, your own
commitment to your self-care ona much, much deeper level needs
to be handled.
So that's why I'm doing thework that I'm doing now.

(35:29):
I still do physical things and Iasked my community if they
wanted to do.
You know, hey, do you guyswanna revisit that program I
made to go along with this bookand they're like, yeah, because
they're ready for some physicallike attention to their physical
again.
I'm not saying the physical'snot important, of course it is,
it's very important.
But why you do anything isbecause you wanna feel better
and that's a mental thing thathas nothing to do with whether

(35:49):
you have high blood pressure ornot.
You wanting to feel emotionallybetter is something that we do
not talk enough about.
We do not have enough tools forI do, but the majority of the
population doesn't get supportedin those tools.
They think, oh, go to therapy,take some medication.
Please don't do the medicationpiece like, deal with your stuff
.
Deal with your stuff and itdoesn't have to be painful.

(36:09):
I've helped people transformtheir lives in three months, six
months.
You know they wanna keep.
A lot of people keep goingcause they feel so good.
I get people that say I'venever been happier in my entire
life after three or six months.
So you know, really value thewhole part of you, the physical
part of you and the emotionalpart of you.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
What does that process look like?
Jj, You've got somebody whoclearly is booby trapping or
self-sabotaging.
How do you go about puttingyour finger on exactly what the
issue is?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well, I have a process the Corbun map.
We create a Corbun map andthere is an exercise that sort
of.
It's a six to seven pageexercise.
It takes about well, dependingon how much you can remember.
I've got some tools in case youhave blocked out some things,
to sort of go deep into thesubconscious a little bit to
allow some of the memories tocome up.
But if you put down what youcan remember and it takes about

(37:00):
30 minutes to an hour and thenfrom that Corbun map, what's so
exciting is here's what weextract from it and here's why
this is unique and different.
So the first thing we extractis your top three Corbuns, and
those were the things that youfeel because of the way that
your caregivers were with you.
So maybe you felt devalued,maybe you felt abandoned, maybe

(37:22):
you felt ignored, maybe you feltcontrolled.
Okay, so there's some of theCorbuns.
We determine what those topthree Corbuns are.
Next step we look at so we allunderstand like electric
circuits, right, like you plugsomething in and the electricity
goes from the cord into themachine to make it work.
Well, our brain circuits workthe same way and when we have a

(37:44):
stimulus, that's like the socketbeing plugged in and then we
have a circuit that runs.
So we look at what that circuitmeans and what the pattern is.
So the first is when the woundof abandoned gets triggered.
What happens next?
What does that circuit looklike?
So we identify the top threeemotions.
So for a lot of people it'sprobably angry, sad, frustrated,

(38:05):
whatever we fill in the blanksand we figure out.
But it's all based onextracting the information from
this one exercise that you do.
So we look at the top three.
So it's the wound, then theemotion and then your go-to
reaction.
And that could be somethinglike I withdraw, I eat, I
overeat, I spend money, I fightback, I become rebellious.

(38:25):
And once we understand thebeginning of the map, here's
what the circuit looks like.
Now we can be able to be awareof it and identify it when we're
out in the world as, oh, thatjust triggered a core wound.
So now we get to be an observerand, like, step back a second
and see our pattern and behaviorand see it for what it is,
which is that I trust me when Isay everything that triggers you
, everything sends back to acore wound.

(38:47):
It's not just because yourhusband or your boss or your kid
.
I promise, I promise, I promiseit stems back to a core wound.
So when we understand that nowwe have something we can do
about it.
So after we get the circuit kindof laid out, then we look at if
something bad happened to youlong time ago and it didn't.
And it didn't, yes, it createda circuit in the brain, it

(39:09):
created a pattern, but if it wasa one-time event it probably
wouldn't have the same intensity, if it was just a one-time
event.
But what happens is because ourparents, our situations make us
believe that we're not worthy,that I'm devalued, I'm not
valuable, we take that on as ourreality and then we do things
to stimulate those core wounds.

(39:29):
So we go back to those topthree core wounds and then I ask
you, how do you do that toyourself?
So let's just I mean again,let's just play a game.
Give me a top core wounddoesn't have to be yours, but
somebody who maybe you see in,if you see in your patients or
in your community or things thatkeep coming up for people.
What do you think a top corewound would be?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Me.
I see a lot of verbally abusivePeople who've been verbally
abused by somebody might be aparent, might be a spouse and
the read I get from that is theyfeel that they don't deserve to
succeed at whatever they'retrying to do.
Has that been your experiencetoo?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, so that could be somewhere between devalued,
ignored, ostracized, right oneof those.
So someone that feels that theywere devalued, that could
equate to want to feel goodenough about myself, right?
So then I would ask you thequestion well, how do you
devalue yourself?
And then we look at the topthree ways you keep that core
wound alive, and that in itselfis very telling.

(40:26):
And so this program hascontinued to keep developing and
I've gotten more fine tuningevery time I do it.
And the rewire came out ofafter even just that realization
for people but most peoplethat's not how they are.
The awareness is there, butit's hard to change the pattern.
So we need to go in andunderstand that your brain.
So imagine that we have acted.

(40:47):
There are certain patterns.
The patterns are these corewounds that when I see something
, this is how I emotionallyreact, this is how I react, this
is what I believe.
Those are really strong in yourbrain.
It's like exercise If you dothe same thing over and over
again, you get strong in thatarea and then you do a different
exercise and the body goes whoa, what'd you do today?
That feels different?
Why?
Because all of a sudden weactivated new fibers.

(41:09):
Well in the muscle, but in thebrain we need to rewire that in
a different direction.
But we have to know what we'redoing and we have to choose what
we're doing in order to beaware of what we're looking at.
So, after assessing all theways that you, the person, keep
your core wounds alive, then thenext, last and most important
step is we choose proactive waysto reprogram a new belief.

(41:35):
Doug and I rented an RV recentlywell, october and we've never
neither one of us has ever beenin an RV, traveled with an RV,
and I took two of my cats withus.
And this was neuroplasticity inlike right there, right then.
And there the cats, when theygot in the RV of course, when it
wasn't moving were like oh,what's over here?
This is really cool.
And but the minute the RVstarted to move, they were in

(41:57):
terror.
They went to the bed and theywere hiding like in the corner
where the window was.
They didn't want to see out,they wanted to bury their head.
They were traumatized in a way.
Okay, very, very scared.
Five days we were gone andevery time we'd stop the RV
they'd be like oh, it stoppedand they'd come out and they'd
be curious again and checkingthings out.
I even put my cats on a leashBoth of them got one on a leash

(42:18):
and I walked them outside for alittle while to get them excited
about going outside.
By the end of the trip, theywere sitting on my lap while we
were driving.
They didn't choose to be there,but we had to stretch their
brain.
You have to stretch into, youhave to do the thing that scares
you.
You have to do the thing youdon't think you can do in order
for the brain to go.
Oh, because here's what'shappening in the brain that

(42:38):
whatever that thing is for youokay.
It could be as simple as askingyour parent if they're proud of
you and you might go.
Oh, I can't do that.
Oh, my God, what if they say no, okay, so that thing.
That's what we need to do torepatter the brain.
So the first thing that happensis the brain goes no, no, no,
danger, danger, you're gonna die.
You're gonna die.
Now, most of the things thatwe're gonna choose are not going

(43:00):
to threaten your life.
So this is just part of yourbrain protecting you from doing
anything new or different.
So once you do it the firsttime and you get over it.
The brain goes oh, huh, Ididn't die.
Then you do it again and thebrain goes wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, I'm scared, it's
okay.
You do it.
The brain goes oh, I'm notgonna die again.
You do it again.
The brain goes okay, I did thisbefore.

(43:20):
It's getting easier.
Then you do it again.
The brain goes oh, this is kindof cool, I kind of like this.
Then you do it again.
The brain goes wow, I reallyenjoy this.
So that's how neuroplasticityworks, is that you have to push
yourself into situations thatliterally you're afraid of, but
we choose very specific thingsbased on your problems.
So things from saying nicethings to yourself, things like

(43:41):
I pushed one of my recentclients out into the world.
She's a chef, she's a privatechef.
For 20 years she's wanted to doher own thing and I said you're
gonna write the bio, you'regonna send the email out to 20
people or more, you're gonna dothe blah, blah, blah, whatever.
She now has three clients,she's now done, she's now has a
business, she's opened up herbusiness, but it took 20 years
and me pushing her and herpaying the money to be pushed in

(44:03):
order for her to commit to it.
So and now her self-esteem ismore, she's happier, she's nicer
to herself, she doesn't talkbadly to herself, she commits to
all of her self-care.
So that's in a nutshell how itworks.
It's just having a supportivecommunity to do it with, having
someone to help you work throughwhat you're going to choose.
It's not just bungee jumping forbungee jumping right.

(44:25):
It's like anytime we dosomething really hard.
The first time you're afraid,but then you go, oh, that wasn't
a big deal.
And then you would do it againand be like, okay, cool, no
problem.
But we have to get you over thehump, to reprogram the brain to
say, no, I am worthy.
Oh, no, I am valuable.
No, my voice does matter, whatI think and what I feel does
matter.
I am important too.
But we have to make thosechoices proactively about those

(44:47):
things in order to rewire thebrain.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Can you give us a handful of examples, jj, on the
kinds of things that people endup using as obstructions or
excuses for not succeeding, sobeing devalued, you won.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
So other core wounds?
Well, not feeling this isn't acore wound, well, it kind of is
feeling fundamentally flawed.
Okay, that's feeling likethere's something innately wrong
with me.
So if I feel there's somethinginnately wrong with me that I'm
never going to actually pushthrough because I don't believe
in myself, okay, that's onething Feeling well, like I said,
ostracized, devalued, abandoned, ignored, controlled.

(45:22):
So what's really interestingabout a lot of people that have
a control wound is that they'resuper controllers.
They just rebel in the areaswhere their parents controlled
them, but they control on theother side other things, or they
control other people, becauseit's really hard to grow up in
an environment where you don'tabsorb those patterns, energies
and behaviors.
It's called your.
It's like your inheritedepigenetics and your inherited

(45:44):
DNA, like the lineage, does havepower over if you have a parent
that doesn't think they'reworthy or doesn't, or shows you
that it's not, that other peopleare more important than you are
, that you're to always give andnever to receive, if you're to
be generous but you're not totake anything if you judge money
.
So I think we blame ourcircumstances a lot and it comes

(46:05):
down to whether we're okaybeing where we are and even just
the act of investing inyourself to do a program, like
definitely one of mine, alreadystarts the process.
This client that I was talkingto and Karen I'm sure it's Chef
Karen she's in New Jersey.
You can look her up onInstagram, so she'll be very
thrilled that I mentioned her.
So when Karen has been in mycommunity for a little while and

(46:28):
I did a sort of beta program ofthis which means it was $1,500
less the first time around shewas like, oh no, no, I can't do
that because scarcity came in.
She's like, oh no, I can'tspend that money on myself
because she's never spent thatkind of money on herself in that
way.
But she is in the community andshe saw people who did it grow
and she thought, oh, I'm seeingthese people change, so now I'm

(46:48):
ready.
So she spent $1,500 more, butwe'll still tell you what was
the best money she ever spent.
So there's that first act ofinvesting in yourself, because
if you look at what you spendmoney on, I'm sure people can
find other things that you careless about or that you value
equally to or more than Likeyour emotions, your health and
well-being, your quality of life.

(47:10):
If you don't value that, thenyou're not going to be doing any
of this, right, but if you wantto value that, there are steps
you have to take.
And some of that whether it bemy program or somebody else's
your programs just stepping outto say I'm going to invest in
this sends a message to yourbrain as well as the universe.
It says I'm worthy of this.
And that's what happens.
In fact, in this year, mymastermind, one of my clients
who did this program last yearshe has been in business for

(47:34):
three years has had one clientthat has been telling everybody
about her and no one has evercalled.
And all of a sudden, now she'scommitted my mastermind and
somebody's called and she's likeno, she's, no one's ever called
.
I said, well, you stepped upand said I'm ready, yeah, I'm
ready to receive, and so now theclients are coming.
So, but that takes you doing theuncomfortable thing.
You're not going to sit in yoursame pattern, in your same

(47:55):
energy and expect things tochange.
It's literally the definitionof insanity, right, doing the
same thing over and over again,expecting different results.
It's called you have to dosomething different.
So this is something that youcan do differently.
And when it comes to yourhealth and back to the whole
picture.
There's a lot we have to juggleand there's a lot of things
that we ask ourselves to do andsometimes we overcommit.

(48:16):
We overcommit to how much weexercise or what kind of food
plan we're on or what we'redoing for others or what we're
doing for ourselves, and webecome really depleted and we
don't understand why we can'tkeep going.
It's because we think we'rerobots, but we're humans and
what we most of the time setaside is when we have our own
self care, when we have our ownkind of quiet time, when we have
our own value time like what,what matters to you.

(48:40):
I can guarantee that everyperson on their deathbed with
who's conscious will say in fact, I know Brani where wrote a
book called the Five Regrets ofthe Dying.
If you haven't read the FiveRegrets of the Dying, it's
things like I wish I would havebeen happier.
I wish I would have spent moretime doing things that made me
happy.
I wish I would have spent timewith people that I wanted to
spend time on.
I mean, these are.
You don't want to get to theend of your life and think what

(49:01):
is I working so hard for?
Why couldn't I have found a wayto do this that supported every
aspect of my life.
So if you're out there andyou're somebody who struggles
with all of it, look at whatyou've done in the past and see
what you've missed.
Maybe there's maybe there again.
I'm always, of course, on thedo the emotional work at the

(49:23):
same time as you're doing yourhealth stuff, but if you're
dealing with some kind ofdisease or some kind of well,
that's that too.
I deal with plenty of cancerpatients who's to me.
They're reoccurrences of canceror 100% stress related, because
they'll have four recurrencesof the same cancer and they have
the best, most updatedscientific, naturopathic, the
whole thing.
They got the whole works Everypart of the terrain.

(49:45):
They've hit it, except they'rerepressed emotion in their body.
So please just remember thatit's the whole package.
While I know it can make itsound really complicated,
ultimately is really simple whenyou start to look at the
science of all the differentthings and how you put that into
place.
So get some help, don't beoverwhelmed.
Reach out to me or somebodyelse, dr Davis, join his program

(50:07):
and get some support becauseyou're worth it and if you
haven't felt like you've hadsuccess thus far, that might be
part of it is that you needsomebody in your corner to be
accountable to, to hold youaccountable to yourself and to
help you love yourself in a newway, so that you can keep doing
whatever it is you want to bedoing.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
And you've come a long way and your career has had
multiple phases.
Can you give us some idea?
How did you go from being apersonal trainer and your focus
on joint health to this moreholistic, emotional, social
support kind of message?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Well, because I saw that people who were exercising
and doing all the right thingswould fall off the wagon.
Right, it's that story about myclients who would do I mean, I
was there twice a week They'd dotheir cardio, they would be
gluten-free whatever They'd dothe things, but then they'd want
to relax.
And how they would how theywould deal with their stress is
eating and drinking.
So if you really want change,you have to look at why, like

(51:03):
how do we deal with lifedifferently?
And that's where, if you'resomeone who is super, it's a big
red flag for me when someonehas a control issue.
That's why I never reallyrelated to the whole personal
training and fitness industry,because all control freaks, this
whole idea of like there's noflow, that's not how we work,
that's how part of us works, butthat's not how we all work.
That's why it'll never go away.

(51:25):
That's why the fitness industrywill always make a ton of money
, because you're appealing tothe control side of people, to
the discipline side of people,to the left brain side of people
, but you're not appealing tothe right side of people.
But we need both of them.
We can't do it with just thewhite knuckling.
Be disciplined, do all theright things count.
My things make sure I you knowyou're human, you're a human
being and you're a human beingbefore you're doing.

(51:47):
And I believe that, especiallyafter, again, all the clients
that I've worked with over theyears, which is, again, I just
asked the right questions.
I'm a problem solver, so I comeand hear my tools.
My tools are the exercise,they're the food, they're the
blah, blah, blah, whatever.
And then I see someone getresults, great.
Then I see two other people getresults, but then they fall off
and they can't get well.
Why?
What's the difference betweenthem?
The difference is what'sunderneath?

(52:08):
What's driving this?
What is underneath all this?
That's why I wrote Fit to Love.
That's my first book which isavailable.
Just don't have an audiobookfor that.
Fit to Love how to GetPhysically, emotionally and
Spiritually Fit to Attract Loveof your Life.
The love of your life is you.
If you use self-care, I don'tcare what it is, if your
discipline is fueled by yourself-hate and disgust, you will

(52:31):
not succeed.
Your inner being knows thatyou're supposed to love yourself
.
So every time you punishyourself and you use exercise
and restriction to do it, yourbody will literally reject it
because it'll say this isn'tright.
I shouldn't reject myselfbecause of what it says on the
scale.
I shouldn't reject myselfbecause I have a few extra

(52:53):
pounds.
I shouldn't beat myself up andshame myself.
Oh, shame is another core wound.
I shouldn't shame myself.
That's a big one in thisindustry, right?
The shame?
Oh, let me talk badly to myself, punish myself and then I'll
get it better.
That's kind of ridiculous,right?
If I was mean to you, would youwant to keep talking to me?
If I called you names anddisrespected you on a regular
basis, would you ever return myemails?

(53:14):
No, so why do we think thatwhen it comes to ourselves, we
can do that to ourselves?
That is not how we win.
People flourish and grow inenvironments where they feel
safe, where they feel valued,where they feel loved, where
they love themselves.
The shame tactics and the blametactics will not create
long-term care and thatlong-term results.
And that was the difference.

(53:35):
I didn't want to be in thisindustry, where you're looking
at the fitness models and you'relike, oh, this is what I should
look.
Like, yeah, they're 20.
They have.
Like they're 20.
They don't have to do too muchbecause they have good genetics,
right?
Oh, I had a beautiful black manin one of my classes when I was
teaching the trainers, Iremember G would get up and he

(53:56):
showed me his abs.
He's like well, jj.
I'm like, yeah, whatever, yoursis genetics, dude.
I know you eat cheeseburgersand you don't like in fries and
pizzas and you don't do anycardio, right, because it was
genetics.
So don't tell me that, becausethat's what we have to look at
our body and say we're alldifferent.
We have to honor and value ouruniqueness and our differences
and then create a plan, all theplans the food plan, the

(54:18):
exercise plan, the emotionalplan based on us, based on our
unique expression, which I thenbelieve starts with, on the
emotional piece, the core wounds.
So if you're looking at someonewho's used to being controlled,
they're probably going to haveand that's why their core wounds
is controlled.
They're going to have alove-hate relationship with
exercise, because they're goingto do it for a long time.
They're going to fall off.
Or same thing with theirdiscipline, with their food

(54:39):
they're going to do it for awhile and then they're going to
fall off because they're goingto rebel, because they don't
feel free, because it remindsthem of their parents, it
reminds them of feelingrestricted and they want to feel
free.
We all have a feeling wantingto feel free.
It comes out differently, butso it's been over time.
I didn't start this trying tofind this as the solution.
It became a solution when I sawthe pattern of all the people

(55:00):
who wanted to lose weight beingdisconnected from the mental,
emotional piece that drove theirchoices in the first place.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Thank you, JJ.
You bring a dimension to livingand life and loving yourself
and succeeding in the thingsyou're trying to do that I've
not been very good at providingand you're an expert at
providing.
So, I appreciate that You'readding a lot of knowledge to my
listeners, who may be lacking inthis aspect of healthy living.
Now, if someone wants to knowmore about JJ Flizzane's world

(55:29):
and thinking what are the bestplaces to go, JJFlizzanecom.
Okay, and of course InvisibleFitness.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Well Invisible.
Fitness redirects toJJFlizzanecom because I'm not
personal training any longer.
I work with people differently.
Again, I still in a programwith anyone 12, 6, or 3 months,
would help them with a physicalprogram if need be, but I
wouldn't be the trainer.
I would help you create theprogram but I wouldn't help

(55:57):
execute it every two weeks, oncea week, twice a week, three
times a week, whatever, Iwouldn't be doing that piece,
but I could help put the plantogether for you.
In fact, that client that lost100 pounds was just here this
last weekend.
She's in my mastermind and shedid a two-day VIP with me and we
worked on her.
You know we worked on herputting back together her
fitness plan and where she needsto stretch into a little bit
more of these days and lookingat her food in the whole nine

(56:18):
yards.
But again, but she's part of abigger program.
So JJFlizzanecom will take youto all my podcasts.
It will take you to my socialmedia.
It'll take you to any kind offree gifts that I have on the
front page of other classes thatyou can take.
It'll take you to my.
Jjflizzanetv is where all thevideos I talked about, all the
exercise videos under the Fit toLove Movement Monday playlist.

(56:41):
But yeah, that's it.
And again, I've a ton of contentand free resources, so much you
will not be able to get throughall of it, I promise, because
it's at this point, almost 10years of me pumping out content
like I'm an ad person.
So, unless you do not work andyou have hours and hours to
spend, there is plenty to dofirst to make sure that, if I'm
somebody you would like to workwith, just make sure of that by

(57:03):
diving into the free stuff firstbefore you reach out.
Of course, I welcome anyonewho's interested to take this
conversation further.
I just want to make sure youknow who I am and what you're
getting into and that youunderstand and feel that it
comes from love, not me beingbossy or pushy or arrogant or
any of those things that Iliterally am in your corner, but
I'm going to be your personaltrainer for all of it and push

(57:24):
you harder than you're willingto go, even if you scream back
at me because it's what you wantand you're not willing to do it
for yourself.
But I'll help you get there.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Anyone who dives into your material will have to
agree you have beenspectacularly prolific, jj,
thanks once again for taking thetime to educate my audience and
me.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Thank you, dr Davis, it's been a pleasure.

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