November 27, 2023 • 35 mins
Promising radiant skin and a healthier life, I'm thrilled to welcome aesthetician Rachel Varga, founder of the School of Radiance, to share her holistic approach to skin health and wellness. Rachel is ready to debunk some skincare myths, pointing out that effective skincare isn't just about what you put on your skin. It's about understanding the role of diet, sleep, and exposure to environmental toxins. She believes that radiant, glowing skin is a byproduct of overall health and well-being.
Are men exempt from skincare? Absolutely not! We shift gears to discuss the common misconception that beauty and skincare are for women only. We share personal experiences that show how essential it is to involve your partner in the journey towards better skin health. We're opening up about the psychological aspect of self-care and its profound effect on relationships. Tune in as we dive into the world of nutricosmetics and skincare strategies, emphasizing that lasting beauty and health are achievable for both men and women.
Rachel doesn't just leave you with tips - she delivers practical strategies for promoting radiant health and well-being. She emphasizes the need to reduce oxidative stress and environmental toxins, encouraging listeners to purify their air and water. And guess what? The future of medical aesthetics is fascinating. Discover how surface and exterior practices combined with wellness practices such as gut analysis, sauna use, and cryotherapy can improve skin health. Remember, looking good is a byproduct of being well. So, don't miss out on this enlightening conversation. And do visit The School of Radiance for more resources and exclusive savings with the promo code "WilliamDavis".
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You've likely noticed that I have taken a recent
interest in promoting skinhealth and appearance.
With the launch of thegut-to-glow oral
Nutri-cosmeticae formulatedsomething the world has never
seen before an oral formulationwith wonderful effects on skin.
I've therefore been seeking outother people in the skin world
who have novel approaches.
I came across estheticianRachel Varga, founder of the
(00:29):
School of Radiance.
Rachel advocates a cleanapproach to skin products,
urging her followers to avoidsynthetic chemicals like
parabens and phthalates.
And she is especially uniqueamong her colleagues in
advocating a holistic approachto skin health and appearance,
counseling people on lifestyleissues diet, sleep, how to
(00:50):
minimize oxidative injury toskin, even biohacking.
These are typically outside ofthe practices of most
estheticians.
So in this episode of DefiantHealth, I have a free-wheeling
conversation with Rachel, whoshares her unique views on her
holistic approach to skin andoverall health.
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Rachel, thank you for joiningme.
You know I've watched your workand I've been impressed that
you're not just the usualesthetician, or a nurse for that
matter, that you've carved outa unique path.
(01:55):
So of course I talked to someestheticians as I've gotten more
interested in skin healthbecause of some of the products
I formulated.
But I've noticed that you havereally carved out a unique path,
very different.
Can you tell me how that cameabout, how you got away from
just the usual pedestrian thingsand into this more unique world
of your own?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh, absolutely.
Since 2011, I've performed20,000 rejuvenation procedures,
written research articles in thespace of skin and longevity, as
well as teaching other doctorsand nurses and clinic owners how
to provide powerful, consistentrejuvenation.
I would say in about 2016,.
(02:36):
So a couple of years into mycareer, and I'm a double
board-certified esthetic nursespecialist.
So what that means is I have myregistered nursing degree and
then I got a separate boardcertification as a certified
esthetic nurse specialist.
So it's kind of like anesthetician with all the health
stuff too, but very different.
(02:56):
However, what I noticed in 2017,some of my patients were just
recovering very quickly and Ibarely had to do anything for
them.
So if I'm going to think of afew of my lovely patients over
the years aged 60 to 95, theywould come to me with me either
online, like this, or in theclinic, because I had people
(03:17):
flying into see me from all overthe world when I was 28 years
old.
What's unique about me, the waythat I operate.
Then I figured out what thatwas and we can talk about that,
because it's very relevant tothis too.
But some people would justfloat into the treatment share
or we'd connect online and Icould just tell that they were
already doing body, mind, spirit, energy work.
(03:40):
They were looking afterthemselves, they had a beautiful
family unit.
Most of them had some type offaith and they would say to me
Rachel, I would just love tolook as good as I feel.
And these were the individualsthat recovered very quickly.
So, say, for example, skinresurfacing or pigmentation
(04:00):
reduction with lasers and thingslike that, they would heal in
about three days, compared toother people that would take
five to seven days.
And I couldn't help but wonderwhat was going on.
So at a pretty early age in mycareer, I sort of became a
researcher and observer and nowI've been able to put it all
(04:21):
together, basically the subsetof patients that just have the
best results, the best skin, thebest energy, the best
relationships, the best life.
They had a reduction of theiroxidative stress and for you,
being an expert in health,wellness, gut health, all of
(04:42):
those things, it's a hugecomponent because the skin tells
us so much about what is goingon internally.
So if you have a week of treatsor more alcohol, or more dairy
and gluten and things like that,your skin will tell you in just
a few short weeks.
So if you're worried for goingthrough more stress, you might
experience some acceleratedaging almost overnight.
(05:04):
There's hormones as well thatcontribute to that, even hair
loss.
And then I started to take adifferent approach to what is
beauty, not just being able torecreate the foundations in
people's faces with medicalaesthetic procedures, but really
get this transformation fromthe inside out and emit this
(05:27):
glow.
So a few months ago I wasreading a book and it was
actually an Ayurvedic text, andI clued into this whole radiance
thing.
Some people have it, somepeople don't, and they don't
look like the traditional beauty, societal norms it changes
every decade, but they have thisessence to them.
So in Ayurveda, to defineradiance and what I love to
(05:50):
study and help cultivate itmyself and others will talk
about my weight loss.
That came with that too.
It's the electromagneticprojection of all of your other
body systems.
So body, mind, spirit, energy.
Radiance is the 10th body inAyurveda, so there's some deep
things that go along with thatand also some very practical
physical things that I know youare an expert in.
(06:13):
That I'm excited to get into.
And then in my research Iidentified a few really key
environmental things that impactthe skin and those are toxins
in air, water, lighting as wellas electromagnetic, so wireless
cellular radiation, what thatdoes to the eyes and the skin,
and of course, differentmicrobes, pathogens and toxins
(06:36):
like yeast, fungi, parasite,heavy metals and mold.
So we reduce those, we inessence can reduce the oxidative
stress and you get better skinand better rejuvenation outcomes
.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So let's say you do I know you do a lot of individual
counseling.
So you've got someone, let'ssay, who's 60 years old and
struggling with skin health andperhaps other aspects of health.
Can you give us a sense?
I know you can't give yourentire approaching program in a
nutshell, but can you give us asense what that may look like,
say, for Mary Jane who comes toyou for the first time?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yes, well, I do have another few clients named Mary
Jane, and, in fact, one of them.
She has done the work.
She has a regular type ofphysical fitness routine, eats
really well, and just noticesthat she's lost volume in the
face.
She's experiencing some saggingto the jawline, changes to the
(07:28):
eyelids, maybe a little bit moredryness to the skin, a little
bit of redness from sun damage,maybe some broken capillaries,
and there's so much that we cando with that.
But I always love to start withwhat can we do at home, first,
to lay the foundation, and sowhat I would like to do in
someone who's 60, which isprimarily the age group I work
(07:52):
with, 60 and up is start withthe home care foundations, get
on a really good, non-toxicskincare routine that I provide
guidance with.
This isn't going to be what youwould expect, though.
It's actually really simplecleansing, moisturizing, sun
protection, gentle exfoliationwith products that are the final
(08:13):
formulation is actuallyresearch to work.
It's not just using somethingthat's trendy or a new product
that came out or something thatpeople are being heavily
marketed to.
So start on two weeks with abasic skincare protocol, then
start to integrate actives likevitamin C, hyaluronic acid,
which I know you're a huge fanof taking internally.
(08:34):
You can do that topically andinternally, and internally is
going to have beautiful impactson the skin hydration and things
like retinol but you want tointroduce those after the
foundations.
It's like your gut health right, getting your foundations right
with the foods that you'reeating, to support your skin
from the inside out as well.
(08:54):
And then maybe look at thingslike at-home peels, at-home
dermal rolling andmicro-needling which I've worked
with and learned alongside oneof the initial researchers on
and then get into potentiallysome in-clinic rejuvenation and
what that would look like wouldbe very unique to the individual
, based on their values, whatthey want to do, what they don't
want to do and also theirlifestyle right, do they have
(09:18):
the opportunity to potentiallybe down and out and have a red
face for five days or not?
There's lots of differentoptions, so it just comes down
to a customized approach, whichisn't really happening in the
medical aesthetic space.
It's very cookie cutter.
The reason why this ishappening is the medical
(09:39):
aesthetics industry is amulti-billion dollar industry
and a lot of med spas areactually being bought up by
corporate conglomerates andinvestors to diversify their
portfolios.
This is actually why a lot ofyou listening are seeing
advertisements for specificrejuvenation technologies that,
(10:00):
in my opinion, are not the best.
In fact, the best you probablynever even heard about, because
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Yeah, I don't think I've evermet somebody in the aesthetic
space who does what you do, thatis, doesn't just confine their
(13:12):
practice to micro-needling orred light therapy or filler
injection those sorts of thingsYou're actually diving into
health and to other aspects ofradiance and the spiritual
aspect of appearance.
How did you get here?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I sort of fell into it.
My mother's a nurse, and so Ithought out of high school it'd
be a great idea to have a verypractical type of job, and so I
did that.
So after a nurse's, I was likeI'm not quite done yet.
So then I actually went on todo my medical school
prerequisites and then thoughtto myself do I want to become a
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physician or do I want tooperate in a way where I can
really support people's skinfrom the inside out in a way
that nobody's doing?
And so I sort of fell into abit of a leadership role.
I had done the work myself andpeople just were telling me
originally you're the firstperson to blend things like
biohacking and longevity intoskin and rejuvenation, and so it
(14:12):
was very humbling when I kindof came to that conclusion.
But the other thing is I knowwe've talked about this as well
that I was in two car crashesand when I was in the first rear
end or back end or on my wayhome from the clinic, I worked
in an excellent oculoplasticclinic for 11 years with an
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incredible surgeon.
We saw a lot of skin cancersactually around the eyes eyes
age first.
So I went on this whole journeymyself of what can I do to
reduce pain, because I didn'twant to go on prescriptions and
things like that.
There must be things that I cando to reduce inflammation.
And then what happened fromthat?
(14:55):
I got the best skin in my lifeand I noticed in my skin I was
having to laser red acne spotsand pigmentation almost every
month, and now I haven't had alaser session in a year and a
half.
So it's like what's going onhere.
So I sort of stumbled on itmyself through my own work in
self-discovery of technologiesand methods to reduce oxidative
(15:17):
stress, and a byproduct is greatskin.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Now.
So, aside from the corporateconsolidation of the industry,
where do you see your fieldgoing?
Is it going in the directionthat you're kind of pioneering?
That is, the combination ofsurface and exterior practices,
but combined with otherpractices.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I would say it comes down to the passion of the
provider.
So some providers they learnthe bare minimum for what they
need to provide, whateverthey're doing, whatever their
tasks are.
And then other people have thispassion for learning wellness
for themselves and for theirfamilies and for their
communities.
So where I think that themedical aesthetic space is going
(15:59):
well, we're already seeing it.
We're seeing these longevityclinics pop up all over the
place.
So I've been saying this foryears probably about three, four
years now that the future ofmedical aesthetics is a place
where you're also getting yourgut analyzed right and maybe
getting an introduction intosauna use and cryotherapy and
(16:24):
all of these differentmodalities, lymphatic drainage
and energy technologies all inone place, and we're seeing this
more and more.
I was actually at a grandopening with a medical
aesthetics clinic.
I loved the doctor and his wifebehind the team.
She's also a registered nurseand they see this too, so
(16:44):
they're bringing in all theseincredible recovery type of
technologies or biohackingtechnologies into their clinic
too, and I just think this is awin-win for everybody, because
to get excellent, powerfulrejuvenation, the best hair
scannels of your life, greatsleep, balanced hormones, a
healthy gut people look at thesuperficial.
(17:05):
They see things on their skinand it bothers them.
And we're in a click society.
We want fast action.
We can go online and orderanything we want and it's on our
doorstep in two days.
But some people see the realvalue in the approach of doing
more than just a skincareproduct, doing more than just a
laser session, doing more thanjust, say, eyelid surgery, but
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other things along the way too,which everything will have a
percentage type of impact.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
That's so refreshing because I'm so used to the
micro-needling and red lighttherapy and this and that
topical things.
But you get into health Now.
You made a comment last time.
We talked about how you foundthat you are, I won't say
impervious, but much moreresistant to sun damage.
Can you tell us about that?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, well, it's funny you mentioned this.
I was actually playingpick-a-ball with some ladies
earlier today.
They're all retired.
I've tend to get on well withpeople who are decades more wise
than I am for some reason oranother.
I love to listen and gainwisdom along the way.
Actually, after the car crashes,I started to employ very
specific protocols that wereactually used to support our
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body to become resilient tothings that were going on in the
world.
What I did was I bumped up myantioxidant use and, in
particular, nac, q-satrin, greentea extract, zinc.
I bumped up my use of Omega'scollagen, introduced cold
therapy for pain, things likered light and then, of course,
(18:38):
the air purification aspects.
What I noticed prior to the carcrashes is I was actually in a
second T-bone on my way to thebeach to do cold therapy at
sunset again for circadianrhythm and recovery.
This was clearly a sign Iwasn't on the right track.
I listened to that.
(18:59):
It's on this jet-set lifestyleof going here, presenting there,
flying all the time every twoweeks.
That's flying is really hard onyour system.
Once I slowed down and tookreally specific nutrients and
reduced oxidative stress, Iwasn't burning in five or 10
minutes.
This was previously up north inCanada I would burn so fast
(19:22):
Then after I would probably saymaybe nine months after
specifically doing parasitecleansing as well.
On top of all of that, I justnoticed I could be outside now
here in the South as far southas I am in North America I can
be outside pretty much all day.
Then it led me to thisunderstanding that in my
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research LEDs, blue light, areactually more damaging to the
skin right now because we'regetting so much of it than UV
light from outside.
When we do all these processesin our lifestyle behind the
scenes to reduce oxidativestress but, yes, do wear mineral
sunscreen on the high-relistedareas face, neck, chest, hands.
(20:06):
Every day I can be outside andenjoy life outside and not be so
concerned about burning orpigmentation because my internal
mechanisms are able to managethat radiation essentially.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Are you actually having your clients and patients
have stool testing done?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This is a huge part.
Gut testing is massive.
I work with a lot of differentcompanies, depending on what
someone's needs are.
I know you do a lot of this aswell, because the gut can tell
us so much, even from anepigenetic level, what foods we
should be eating.
Back then, I was also eatingthe wrong foods.
I was eating a lot of bellpeppers.
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I was eating a lot of kale.
I was eating a lot of peanutbutter.
These are highly inflammatory.
Peanut butter is a lot of moldin it.
Actually, once I started to getquite specific with food
choices after gut testing, thenI also noticed a difference too,
not only just with how I looked, but how I felt and how I slept
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and hormones and just how I wasin relationships and
communication and connectionwith others.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I've heard my audience is largely female,
which always mazes me.
It's the wives or femalepartners who prod the guys into
doing something for their health, and they sometimes do it,
sometimes don't.
I've heard you say that you'restarting to see that men are
beginning to embrace some of thethings you're talking about.
How have you done with that?
Do you have a specific formulafor appealing to males?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, men don't like pain, I'll tell you that right
away.
They don't usually like to dothings that require some
downtime, so a red face for acouple of days.
They don't like pain, theydon't like having a red face.
So there are some differentapproaches I like to take.
But you know what I really feelfor the men?
(21:56):
Because women it's praised inour society to use beauty
products and make up.
Most of them are toxic becausethey contain parabens,
phthalates, sulfates, artificialdyes, fragrances which is the
irony of it.
Right, women do all thesethings for beautification spray
the perfume right over theirthyroid, containing phthalates,
which contains hormonedisruptors.
(22:17):
So the irony is not lost on me.
And then men they kind of neverget the guidance of how to care
for their skin.
So I actually really loveworking with men, especially in
an online setting like this,because it's very discreet and
then I can provide guidance ofsome things to do.
But here's the interesting partis that when partners a really
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great marriage is a partnership,it's teamwork.
And so if one partner valueslooking good, having great skin,
full hair, a great body, butthe other doesn't, there's going
to be a mix match of values aswell as doing all this health
stuff.
If one person is more on thistrain than somebody else and
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they're not going to get it,they're not going to do it.
There could be a mismatch ofboundaries and I'll be totally
honest with you.
In a previous 12-year marriageI had this and I actually had a
previous partner unplug airpurifiers around the home during
renovations in a 1930s home.
So of course, mold and thingslike that were things on my mind
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, especially in preconceptionyears, being very diligent with
that.
But really, my clients, theyget the best success.
They're doing it as a team withtheir partner.
They're doing their at-homedermal rolling together.
They're doing their skincaretogether.
They're sharing their products.
They're both eating great foods, they're both exercising and
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doing things that are fun withthe whole family.
The whole family is doing itand there's some deep
psychological things that's alsogoing on here.
A lot of ladies who arelistening.
You might feel also that you'rethe leader of the household and
you have to do everything andwhat this does is actually age
women.
So there's some programmingalso that needs to be looked at.
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For deep, lasting beauty,longevity, great relationships,
radiance is how can we reallylook after ourselves in the way
that feels right for us andreally go through this journey
with our loved ones, take themalong through the ride, share
the knowledge, but not be like apreacher on a soapbox about it.
(24:31):
I'm sure you've seen thosesince your clients too.
Once they learn all thesethings, they just want to tell
everybody about it, and sothere's some ways to navigate
that as well.
But when you mention wives andpartners and men, it's really
great when both parties do ittogether.
So I actually love to even docouples one-on-one guidance for
at-home and in-clinicrejuvenation too, which is
(24:51):
really great High success rate.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Great, rachel, and by no means, as you know, a skin
expert.
That's why I talk to skinexperts like you, especially
ones with novel ideas.
My entry into this world ofskin has been through this
notion of nutric cosmetics, thatis, sending things you take
orally for systemic effects,including on the skin.
So I was so impressed when youbrought that up without my
prompting.
Can you give me some thoughtson how you manage this, the
(25:16):
whole notion of nutric cosmetics?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Absolutely Well.
Yes, we are in a highly noveltime in human evolution.
By the way, in case you haven'tnoticed, there's always
something new coming out all thetime, and when it comes to
nutric cosmetics, I've actuallyworked with ingestible products
and have done research formultiple companies, using
photography to analyze thebefore and after.
(25:40):
So I'm really looking forwardto utilizing your product as
well and seeing this for thebenefit in my skin too.
So what's really interestingabout the nutric cosmetic space
is there's a lot of reallyheavily marketed products out
there, and this is reallyimportant, because it's always
my aim.
How can we become moreconscious consumers and not buy
(26:01):
things out of fear?
And a number of years ago,there was a gummy that was on
the market and it was dyed bluewhich, of course, is already
about done and you had all thesecelebrities on social media
marketing this all over theplace, and a lot of people felt
prey to this.
But what happened was athird-party lab passed to the
(26:23):
product and you'll never guesswhat they found.
So it was recommended to havetwo of these gummies a day.
Consuming two of those gummiesa day went beyond the daily
allowable limit for lead.
Yeah, ironic, right.
So we've seen a lot of thesebig beauty products not be so
(26:44):
good over time.
So that's why it's so key towork with third-party,
independent, lab-tested, neutralcosmetics, which I know you're
fully aware of, because there'salways these trendy things right
for hair growth, for healthyskin and nails but a lot of
times they'll say manufacturedin North America, but the
ingredients are actually comingfrom across the globe, and I
(27:06):
mean, I don't have to be.
It's pretty obvious where someof the ingredients that were
tainted with lead was comingfrom, and it was probably coming
from the orient somewhere.
So you just want to watch outfor that too.
And another piece of guidanceis to get to know the people
behind the companies.
Is this like amulti-entrepreneur kind of thing
, or is this a practitioner, oris this just a big company that
(27:29):
wants to make a lot of money?
So that's how you can become amore conscious consumer as well.
And getting back to specificneutral cosmetics, I love
neutral cosmetics that containantioxidants and omegas and
support the gut, because thenyou're daily getting all of
those good things, which formyself and my clients, just
makes a massive difference overtime.
(27:50):
And in fact, in some of myresearch and this study was done
concurrently with a surgeon onthe East Coast I was on the West
Coast at the time in four weekswe saw a reduction of redness
to the skin.
Pigmentation started to fadeand the eyes actually looked
less dark and less red and lesspuffy in four weeks.
(28:12):
And I didn't believe thecompany's claims.
They were like, oh yeah, itdoes all this.
I'm like, yeah, sure, right,sounds to you good to be true.
But then I actually looked atthe photos myself and I was like
whoa, these things are going tobe powerful.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
So part of your one-on-one counseling is to
steer people in the direction ofsafe topical products as well.
That is, in a way, from thingsI know I've seen reports of
containing yes, lead, mercury,of course, parabens and fat
phthalates and those kinds ofthings.
But is that part of yourprocess too?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Oh, 100%.
So I sell about 250 personalcare products, from skincare,
makeup, hair care, groomingproducts, dermal rolling options
, and so I really just startedselling everything I used.
And because it's hard forpeople to find Like, I do have a
year of biochemistry under mybelt as well, so I love NgenKem
(29:04):
and OrganicKem and I love tonerd out on ingredients, and it
is very difficult for theconsumer to really glean which
ingredients are snuck in thatare not so good but are good.
But there's something to alsocover here, which is
greenwashing.
So a lot of products are saidto be all natural or
(29:26):
eco-friendly or green.
You'll see this marketing everylook now.
But the thing is with orchemical free.
Right, they have a claim thatsays chemical free on the
packaging.
So let me break this down toyou.
Anything that's from planetearth is natural, and the last
time I checked, petroleum wasnot great for the skin.
So there's that.
(29:46):
Anything that says all natural,forget it.
The other one is chemical free.
We all drink water, right?
I have a tall glass of filteredstructured water right here.
I didn't ionize it today.
There's lots of things that wecan do to water.
That's pretty cool, but wateris a chemical.
But it's a good chemical.
We want to avoid the badchemicals.
(30:08):
So if you pick up a product, youlook at the ingredients but it
says chemical free on the frontlabel.
The first ingredient is water.
That's a chemical.
But most people say, oh, it'sall natural, it's chemical free,
it's got to be good for me.
But I mean, the regulations onthis stuff is pretty poor.
So that's why I love to help outand not only find clean
(30:29):
products, but also products thatare going to deliver.
So I primarily work with a lotof practitioner grade skincare
products that the companies havedone a really good job at
creating an excellent formulathat asks things like caleronic
acid, vitamin C and peptides.
But they've also researched thefinal formula to make sure it's
stable and that the vitamin Cisn't going ranicin and things
(30:52):
like that.
I'm creating my own behind thescenes too.
I'm doing some really coolthings with that.
That's been a few years in themaking, to do it right, do it
well and not work with investorsthat down the line might want
to say, oh, let's start addingcanola oil into the product to
make it have better margins.
And I'm actually seeing canolaoil in a lot of clean beauty
(31:14):
products that actually in thepast were pretty good, but it's
just that's why I loveone-on-one sessions, because I
go through all my the productsthat my clients are using and
give them the yay or nay ofthings that they should get rid
of or that they can carry onwith.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Rachel, thank you so much for sharing your novel
ideas.
It's really so refreshing.
Is there a message?
So my audience is mostlyinterested.
They're searching for healthsolutions, not so much skin
solutions.
But because it's so femaledominant, a lot of them really
catch on, latch on to that skinmessage.
Is there anything you'd like toadd in closing?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, well, that's just it.
I get people.
People get drawn to me for theskin stuff.
Little do they know I'm goingto be unpacking a lot of things
behind the scenes that theyprobably just didn't know about.
So in closing I would referencemy recent research paper that I
wrote.
I've written multiple papers,peer review, journal board
(32:07):
member, all that stuff onoxidative stress status and its
impacts on the skin.
So my closing words is to notget overwhelmed with all the
things you could do.
It's just every day andthroughout the day.
Take a step in the rightdirection to clean up your
lifestyle, and by starting withpurifying your air, reducing LED
(32:28):
lighting which is actually whyI'm wearing these glasses too as
well as reducing the exposureto electromagnetic, so turning
the router off at night.
Actually, underneath thisbeautiful dress I'm wearing, I'm
even wearing EMF protectiveshorts over my gut and on my bed
behind here I have silverthreaded blankets.
(32:49):
You know, I don't hold my phoneto my ear.
I don't use anything smart, Imean smart technology, I think,
is killing us these days.
It's not making us any smarter,but just little things like
that can really make adifference, as well as purifying
the water and not drinking tapwater anymore and then starting
to do some detoxing, so all ofthose things can sound really
(33:11):
overwhelming, but I do make itsuper simple to begin with, that
and my research paper is opensource, so it's great for
clients, but also clinicians aswell.
Anyone can read it and it's onmy website as well.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So if someone wants to hear more about Rachel with
Margaret's ideas and see thatpaper, for instance, and your
podcast, what's the best placeto start?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, my website is the schoolofradientscom.
The schoolofradientscom, andthat's where you can book a
session.
Use promo code William Davisfor special savings as well.
I'd love to meet you and giveyou that guidance as your mentor
along the way as well, and forfree stuff.
(33:56):
Tune into the School ofRadiance podcast, where we
recently recorded a beautifulepisode together for positive
insights to help you become yourmost radiant version, and lots
of other things on the websitetoo.
I do tutorials.
I have a three 30 minutetraining as well.
Take advantage of that.
And, at the end of the day,when you look at caring for
(34:20):
yourself in a very specific waynot just for you, but for you to
be as healthy as possible sothat you have the best
relationships with yourself andothers the more people that
operate in this way of being aspure as possible, I think it's
just going to help the world bea better place, with less
scrambled people psychologicallyand with toxins.
(34:40):
So, at the end of the day,that's what I'm here to do
humble human on a mission hereto help others be radiant.
Because it's completelytransformed the way I look my
waist circumference it's likestaying lean is effortless now.
But it's all these differentlayers that really will have
this fact, maybe one, two yearslater for you looking and
(35:01):
feeling your best.
Looking good is a byproduct ofbeing well.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well, Reggie, you certainly do look terrific and I
love your message.
I hope many of my followersalso latch onto your message
because you're doing such greatwork.
Thank you.
You've likely noticed that I have taken a recent
interest in promoting skinhealth and appearance.
With the launch of thegut-to-glow oral
Nutri-cosmeticae formulatedsomething the world has never
seen before an oral formulationwith wonderful effects on skin.
I've therefore been seeking outother people in the skin world
who have novel approaches.
I came across estheticianRachel Varga, founder of the
(00:29):
School of Radiance.
Rachel advocates a cleanapproach to skin products,
urging her followers to avoidsynthetic chemicals like
parabens and phthalates.
And she is especially uniqueamong her colleagues in
advocating a holistic approachto skin health and appearance,
counseling people on lifestyleissues diet, sleep, how to
(00:50):
minimize oxidative injury toskin, even biohacking.
These are typically outside ofthe practices of most
estheticians.
So in this episode of DefiantHealth, I have a free-wheeling
conversation with Rachel, whoshares her unique views on her
holistic approach to skin andoverall health.
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Rachel, thank you for joiningme.
You know I've watched your workand I've been impressed that
you're not just the usualesthetician, or a nurse for that
matter, that you've carved outa unique path.
(01:55):
So of course I talked to someestheticians as I've gotten more
interested in skin healthbecause of some of the products
I formulated.
But I've noticed that you havereally carved out a unique path,
very different.
Can you tell me how that cameabout, how you got away from
just the usual pedestrian thingsand into this more unique world
of your own?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh, absolutely.
Since 2011, I've performed20,000 rejuvenation procedures,
written research articles in thespace of skin and longevity, as
well as teaching other doctorsand nurses and clinic owners how
to provide powerful, consistentrejuvenation.
I would say in about 2016,.
(02:36):
So a couple of years into mycareer, and I'm a double
board-certified esthetic nursespecialist.
So what that means is I have myregistered nursing degree and
then I got a separate boardcertification as a certified
esthetic nurse specialist.
So it's kind of like anesthetician with all the health
stuff too, but very different.
(02:56):
However, what I noticed in 2017,some of my patients were just
recovering very quickly and Ibarely had to do anything for
them.
So if I'm going to think of afew of my lovely patients over
the years aged 60 to 95, theywould come to me with me either
online, like this, or in theclinic, because I had people
(03:17):
flying into see me from all overthe world when I was 28 years
old.
What's unique about me, the waythat I operate.
Then I figured out what thatwas and we can talk about that,
because it's very relevant tothis too.
But some people would justfloat into the treatment share
or we'd connect online and Icould just tell that they were
already doing body, mind, spirit, energy work.
(03:40):
They were looking afterthemselves, they had a beautiful
family unit.
Most of them had some type offaith and they would say to me
Rachel, I would just love tolook as good as I feel.
And these were the individualsthat recovered very quickly.
So, say, for example, skinresurfacing or pigmentation
(04:00):
reduction with lasers and thingslike that, they would heal in
about three days, compared toother people that would take
five to seven days.
And I couldn't help but wonderwhat was going on.
So at a pretty early age in mycareer, I sort of became a
researcher and observer and nowI've been able to put it all
(04:21):
together, basically the subsetof patients that just have the
best results, the best skin, thebest energy, the best
relationships, the best life.
They had a reduction of theiroxidative stress and for you,
being an expert in health,wellness, gut health, all of
(04:42):
those things, it's a hugecomponent because the skin tells
us so much about what is goingon internally.
So if you have a week of treatsor more alcohol, or more dairy
and gluten and things like that,your skin will tell you in just
a few short weeks.
So if you're worried for goingthrough more stress, you might
experience some acceleratedaging almost overnight.
(05:04):
There's hormones as well thatcontribute to that, even hair
loss.
And then I started to take adifferent approach to what is
beauty, not just being able torecreate the foundations in
people's faces with medicalaesthetic procedures, but really
get this transformation fromthe inside out and emit this
(05:27):
glow.
So a few months ago I wasreading a book and it was
actually an Ayurvedic text, andI clued into this whole radiance
thing.
Some people have it, somepeople don't, and they don't
look like the traditional beauty, societal norms it changes
every decade, but they have thisessence to them.
So in Ayurveda, to defineradiance and what I love to
(05:50):
study and help cultivate itmyself and others will talk
about my weight loss.
That came with that too.
It's the electromagneticprojection of all of your other
body systems.
So body, mind, spirit, energy.
Radiance is the 10th body inAyurveda, so there's some deep
things that go along with thatand also some very practical
physical things that I know youare an expert in.
(06:13):
That I'm excited to get into.
And then in my research Iidentified a few really key
environmental things that impactthe skin and those are toxins
in air, water, lighting as wellas electromagnetic, so wireless
cellular radiation, what thatdoes to the eyes and the skin,
and of course, differentmicrobes, pathogens and toxins
(06:36):
like yeast, fungi, parasite,heavy metals and mold.
So we reduce those, we inessence can reduce the oxidative
stress and you get better skinand better rejuvenation outcomes
.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So let's say you do I know you do a lot of individual
counseling.
So you've got someone, let'ssay, who's 60 years old and
struggling with skin health andperhaps other aspects of health.
Can you give us a sense?
I know you can't give yourentire approaching program in a
nutshell, but can you give us asense what that may look like,
say, for Mary Jane who comes toyou for the first time?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yes, well, I do have another few clients named Mary
Jane, and, in fact, one of them.
She has done the work.
She has a regular type ofphysical fitness routine, eats
really well, and just noticesthat she's lost volume in the
face.
She's experiencing some saggingto the jawline, changes to the
(07:28):
eyelids, maybe a little bit moredryness to the skin, a little
bit of redness from sun damage,maybe some broken capillaries,
and there's so much that we cando with that.
But I always love to start withwhat can we do at home, first,
to lay the foundation, and sowhat I would like to do in
someone who's 60, which isprimarily the age group I work
(07:52):
with, 60 and up is start withthe home care foundations, get
on a really good, non-toxicskincare routine that I provide
guidance with.
This isn't going to be what youwould expect, though.
It's actually really simplecleansing, moisturizing, sun
protection, gentle exfoliationwith products that are the final
(08:13):
formulation is actuallyresearch to work.
It's not just using somethingthat's trendy or a new product
that came out or something thatpeople are being heavily
marketed to.
So start on two weeks with abasic skincare protocol, then
start to integrate actives likevitamin C, hyaluronic acid,
which I know you're a huge fanof taking internally.
(08:34):
You can do that topically andinternally, and internally is
going to have beautiful impactson the skin hydration and things
like retinol but you want tointroduce those after the
foundations.
It's like your gut health right, getting your foundations right
with the foods that you'reeating, to support your skin
from the inside out as well.
(08:54):
And then maybe look at thingslike at-home peels, at-home
dermal rolling andmicro-needling which I've worked
with and learned alongside oneof the initial researchers on
and then get into potentiallysome in-clinic rejuvenation and
what that would look like wouldbe very unique to the individual
, based on their values, whatthey want to do, what they don't
want to do and also theirlifestyle right, do they have
(09:18):
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face for five days or not?
There's lots of differentoptions, so it just comes down
to a customized approach, whichisn't really happening in the
medical aesthetic space.
It's very cookie cutter.
The reason why this ishappening is the medical
(09:39):
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corporate conglomerates andinvestors to diversify their
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This is actually why a lot ofyou listening are seeing
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(10:00):
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Yeah, I don't think I've evermet somebody in the aesthetic
space who does what you do, thatis, doesn't just confine their
(13:12):
practice to micro-needling orred light therapy or filler
injection those sorts of thingsYou're actually diving into
health and to other aspects ofradiance and the spiritual
aspect of appearance.
How did you get here?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I sort of fell into it.
My mother's a nurse, and so Ithought out of high school it'd
be a great idea to have a verypractical type of job, and so I
did that.
So after a nurse's, I was likeI'm not quite done yet.
So then I actually went on todo my medical school
prerequisites and then thoughtto myself do I want to become a
(13:48):
physician or do I want tooperate in a way where I can
really support people's skinfrom the inside out in a way
that nobody's doing?
And so I sort of fell into abit of a leadership role.
I had done the work myself andpeople just were telling me
originally you're the firstperson to blend things like
biohacking and longevity intoskin and rejuvenation, and so it
(14:12):
was very humbling when I kindof came to that conclusion.
But the other thing is I knowwe've talked about this as well
that I was in two car crashesand when I was in the first rear
end or back end or on my wayhome from the clinic, I worked
in an excellent oculoplasticclinic for 11 years with an
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incredible surgeon.
We saw a lot of skin cancersactually around the eyes eyes
age first.
So I went on this whole journeymyself of what can I do to
reduce pain, because I didn'twant to go on prescriptions and
things like that.
There must be things that I cando to reduce inflammation.
And then what happened fromthat?
(14:55):
I got the best skin in my lifeand I noticed in my skin I was
having to laser red acne spotsand pigmentation almost every
month, and now I haven't had alaser session in a year and a
half.
So it's like what's going onhere.
So I sort of stumbled on itmyself through my own work in
self-discovery of technologiesand methods to reduce oxidative
(15:17):
stress, and a byproduct is greatskin.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Now.
So, aside from the corporateconsolidation of the industry,
where do you see your fieldgoing?
Is it going in the directionthat you're kind of pioneering?
That is, the combination ofsurface and exterior practices,
but combined with otherpractices.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I would say it comes down to the passion of the
provider.
So some providers they learnthe bare minimum for what they
need to provide, whateverthey're doing, whatever their
tasks are.
And then other people have thispassion for learning wellness
for themselves and for theirfamilies and for their
communities.
So where I think that themedical aesthetic space is going
(15:59):
well, we're already seeing it.
We're seeing these longevityclinics pop up all over the
place.
So I've been saying this foryears probably about three, four
years now that the future ofmedical aesthetics is a place
where you're also getting yourgut analyzed right and maybe
getting an introduction intosauna use and cryotherapy and
(16:24):
all of these differentmodalities, lymphatic drainage
and energy technologies all inone place, and we're seeing this
more and more.
I was actually at a grandopening with a medical
aesthetics clinic.
I loved the doctor and his wifebehind the team.
She's also a registered nurseand they see this too, so
(16:44):
they're bringing in all theseincredible recovery type of
technologies or biohackingtechnologies into their clinic
too, and I just think this is awin-win for everybody, because
to get excellent, powerfulrejuvenation, the best hair
scannels of your life, greatsleep, balanced hormones, a
healthy gut people look at thesuperficial.
(17:05):
They see things on their skinand it bothers them.
And we're in a click society.
We want fast action.
We can go online and orderanything we want and it's on our
doorstep in two days.
But some people see the realvalue in the approach of doing
more than just a skincareproduct, doing more than just a
laser session, doing more thanjust, say, eyelid surgery, but
(17:29):
other things along the way too,which everything will have a
percentage type of impact.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
That's so refreshing because I'm so used to the
micro-needling and red lighttherapy and this and that
topical things.
But you get into health Now.
You made a comment last time.
We talked about how you foundthat you are, I won't say
impervious, but much moreresistant to sun damage.
Can you tell us about that?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, well, it's funny you mentioned this.
I was actually playingpick-a-ball with some ladies
earlier today.
They're all retired.
I've tend to get on well withpeople who are decades more wise
than I am for some reason oranother.
I love to listen and gainwisdom along the way.
Actually, after the car crashes,I started to employ very
specific protocols that wereactually used to support our
(18:16):
body to become resilient tothings that were going on in the
world.
What I did was I bumped up myantioxidant use and, in
particular, nac, q-satrin, greentea extract, zinc.
I bumped up my use of Omega'scollagen, introduced cold
therapy for pain, things likered light and then, of course,
(18:38):
the air purification aspects.
What I noticed prior to the carcrashes is I was actually in a
second T-bone on my way to thebeach to do cold therapy at
sunset again for circadianrhythm and recovery.
This was clearly a sign Iwasn't on the right track.
I listened to that.
(18:59):
It's on this jet-set lifestyleof going here, presenting there,
flying all the time every twoweeks.
That's flying is really hard onyour system.
Once I slowed down and tookreally specific nutrients and
reduced oxidative stress, Iwasn't burning in five or 10
minutes.
This was previously up north inCanada I would burn so fast
(19:22):
Then after I would probably saymaybe nine months after
specifically doing parasitecleansing as well.
On top of all of that, I justnoticed I could be outside now
here in the South as far southas I am in North America I can
be outside pretty much all day.
Then it led me to thisunderstanding that in my
(19:45):
research LEDs, blue light, areactually more damaging to the
skin right now because we'regetting so much of it than UV
light from outside.
When we do all these processesin our lifestyle behind the
scenes to reduce oxidativestress but, yes, do wear mineral
sunscreen on the high-relistedareas face, neck, chest, hands.
(20:06):
Every day I can be outside andenjoy life outside and not be so
concerned about burning orpigmentation because my internal
mechanisms are able to managethat radiation essentially.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Are you actually having your clients and patients
have stool testing done?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This is a huge part.
Gut testing is massive.
I work with a lot of differentcompanies, depending on what
someone's needs are.
I know you do a lot of this aswell, because the gut can tell
us so much, even from anepigenetic level, what foods we
should be eating.
Back then, I was also eatingthe wrong foods.
I was eating a lot of bellpeppers.
(20:45):
I was eating a lot of kale.
I was eating a lot of peanutbutter.
These are highly inflammatory.
Peanut butter is a lot of moldin it.
Actually, once I started to getquite specific with food
choices after gut testing, thenI also noticed a difference too,
not only just with how I looked, but how I felt and how I slept
(21:05):
and hormones and just how I wasin relationships and
communication and connectionwith others.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I've heard my audience is largely female,
which always mazes me.
It's the wives or femalepartners who prod the guys into
doing something for their health, and they sometimes do it,
sometimes don't.
I've heard you say that you'restarting to see that men are
beginning to embrace some of thethings you're talking about.
How have you done with that?
Do you have a specific formulafor appealing to males?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, men don't like pain, I'll tell you that right
away.
They don't usually like to dothings that require some
downtime, so a red face for acouple of days.
They don't like pain, theydon't like having a red face.
So there are some differentapproaches I like to take.
But you know what I really feelfor the men?
(21:56):
Because women it's praised inour society to use beauty
products and make up.
Most of them are toxic becausethey contain parabens,
phthalates, sulfates, artificialdyes, fragrances which is the
irony of it.
Right, women do all thesethings for beautification spray
the perfume right over theirthyroid, containing phthalates,
which contains hormonedisruptors.
(22:17):
So the irony is not lost on me.
And then men they kind of neverget the guidance of how to care
for their skin.
So I actually really loveworking with men, especially in
an online setting like this,because it's very discreet and
then I can provide guidance ofsome things to do.
But here's the interesting partis that when partners a really
(22:44):
great marriage is a partnership,it's teamwork.
And so if one partner valueslooking good, having great skin,
full hair, a great body, butthe other doesn't, there's going
to be a mix match of values aswell as doing all this health
stuff.
If one person is more on thistrain than somebody else and
(23:06):
they're not going to get it,they're not going to do it.
There could be a mismatch ofboundaries and I'll be totally
honest with you.
In a previous 12-year marriageI had this and I actually had a
previous partner unplug airpurifiers around the home during
renovations in a 1930s home.
So of course, mold and thingslike that were things on my mind
(23:27):
, especially in preconceptionyears, being very diligent with
that.
But really, my clients, theyget the best success.
They're doing it as a team withtheir partner.
They're doing their at-homedermal rolling together.
They're doing their skincaretogether.
They're sharing their products.
They're both eating great foods, they're both exercising and
(23:47):
doing things that are fun withthe whole family.
The whole family is doing itand there's some deep
psychological things that's alsogoing on here.
A lot of ladies who arelistening.
You might feel also that you'rethe leader of the household and
you have to do everything andwhat this does is actually age
women.
So there's some programmingalso that needs to be looked at.
(24:10):
For deep, lasting beauty,longevity, great relationships,
radiance is how can we reallylook after ourselves in the way
that feels right for us andreally go through this journey
with our loved ones, take themalong through the ride, share
the knowledge, but not be like apreacher on a soapbox about it.
(24:31):
I'm sure you've seen thosesince your clients too.
Once they learn all thesethings, they just want to tell
everybody about it, and sothere's some ways to navigate
that as well.
But when you mention wives andpartners and men, it's really
great when both parties do ittogether.
So I actually love to even docouples one-on-one guidance for
at-home and in-clinicrejuvenation too, which is
(24:51):
really great High success rate.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Great, rachel, and by no means, as you know, a skin
expert.
That's why I talk to skinexperts like you, especially
ones with novel ideas.
My entry into this world ofskin has been through this
notion of nutric cosmetics, thatis, sending things you take
orally for systemic effects,including on the skin.
So I was so impressed when youbrought that up without my
prompting.
Can you give me some thoughtson how you manage this, the
(25:16):
whole notion of nutric cosmetics?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Absolutely Well.
Yes, we are in a highly noveltime in human evolution.
By the way, in case you haven'tnoticed, there's always
something new coming out all thetime, and when it comes to
nutric cosmetics, I've actuallyworked with ingestible products
and have done research formultiple companies, using
photography to analyze thebefore and after.
(25:40):
So I'm really looking forwardto utilizing your product as
well and seeing this for thebenefit in my skin too.
So what's really interestingabout the nutric cosmetic space
is there's a lot of reallyheavily marketed products out
there, and this is reallyimportant, because it's always
my aim.
How can we become moreconscious consumers and not buy
(26:01):
things out of fear?
And a number of years ago,there was a gummy that was on
the market and it was dyed bluewhich, of course, is already
about done and you had all thesecelebrities on social media
marketing this all over theplace, and a lot of people felt
prey to this.
But what happened was athird-party lab passed to the
(26:23):
product and you'll never guesswhat they found.
So it was recommended to havetwo of these gummies a day.
Consuming two of those gummiesa day went beyond the daily
allowable limit for lead.
Yeah, ironic, right.
So we've seen a lot of thesebig beauty products not be so
(26:44):
good over time.
So that's why it's so key towork with third-party,
independent, lab-tested, neutralcosmetics, which I know you're
fully aware of, because there'salways these trendy things right
for hair growth, for healthyskin and nails but a lot of
times they'll say manufacturedin North America, but the
ingredients are actually comingfrom across the globe, and I
(27:06):
mean, I don't have to be.
It's pretty obvious where someof the ingredients that were
tainted with lead was comingfrom, and it was probably coming
from the orient somewhere.
So you just want to watch outfor that too.
And another piece of guidanceis to get to know the people
behind the companies.
Is this like amulti-entrepreneur kind of thing
, or is this a practitioner, oris this just a big company that
(27:29):
wants to make a lot of money?
So that's how you can become amore conscious consumer as well.
And getting back to specificneutral cosmetics, I love
neutral cosmetics that containantioxidants and omegas and
support the gut, because thenyou're daily getting all of
those good things, which formyself and my clients, just
makes a massive difference overtime.
(27:50):
And in fact, in some of myresearch and this study was done
concurrently with a surgeon onthe East Coast I was on the West
Coast at the time in four weekswe saw a reduction of redness
to the skin.
Pigmentation started to fadeand the eyes actually looked
less dark and less red and lesspuffy in four weeks.
(28:12):
And I didn't believe thecompany's claims.
They were like, oh yeah, itdoes all this.
I'm like, yeah, sure, right,sounds to you good to be true.
But then I actually looked atthe photos myself and I was like
whoa, these things are going tobe powerful.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
So part of your one-on-one counseling is to
steer people in the direction ofsafe topical products as well.
That is, in a way, from thingsI know I've seen reports of
containing yes, lead, mercury,of course, parabens and fat
phthalates and those kinds ofthings.
But is that part of yourprocess too?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Oh, 100%.
So I sell about 250 personalcare products, from skincare,
makeup, hair care, groomingproducts, dermal rolling options
, and so I really just startedselling everything I used.
And because it's hard forpeople to find Like, I do have a
year of biochemistry under mybelt as well, so I love NgenKem
(29:04):
and OrganicKem and I love tonerd out on ingredients, and it
is very difficult for theconsumer to really glean which
ingredients are snuck in thatare not so good but are good.
But there's something to alsocover here, which is
greenwashing.
So a lot of products are saidto be all natural or
(29:26):
eco-friendly or green.
You'll see this marketing everylook now.
But the thing is with orchemical free.
Right, they have a claim thatsays chemical free on the
packaging.
So let me break this down toyou.
Anything that's from planetearth is natural, and the last
time I checked, petroleum wasnot great for the skin.
So there's that.
(29:46):
Anything that says all natural,forget it.
The other one is chemical free.
We all drink water, right?
I have a tall glass of filteredstructured water right here.
I didn't ionize it today.
There's lots of things that wecan do to water.
That's pretty cool, but wateris a chemical.
But it's a good chemical.
We want to avoid the badchemicals.
(30:08):
So if you pick up a product, youlook at the ingredients but it
says chemical free on the frontlabel.
The first ingredient is water.
That's a chemical.
But most people say, oh, it'sall natural, it's chemical free,
it's got to be good for me.
But I mean, the regulations onthis stuff is pretty poor.
So that's why I love to help outand not only find clean
(30:29):
products, but also products thatare going to deliver.
So I primarily work with a lotof practitioner grade skincare
products that the companies havedone a really good job at
creating an excellent formulathat asks things like caleronic
acid, vitamin C and peptides.
But they've also researched thefinal formula to make sure it's
stable and that the vitamin Cisn't going ranicin and things
(30:52):
like that.
I'm creating my own behind thescenes too.
I'm doing some really coolthings with that.
That's been a few years in themaking, to do it right, do it
well and not work with investorsthat down the line might want
to say, oh, let's start addingcanola oil into the product to
make it have better margins.
And I'm actually seeing canolaoil in a lot of clean beauty
(31:14):
products that actually in thepast were pretty good, but it's
just that's why I loveone-on-one sessions, because I
go through all my the productsthat my clients are using and
give them the yay or nay ofthings that they should get rid
of or that they can carry onwith.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Rachel, thank you so much for sharing your novel
ideas.
It's really so refreshing.
Is there a message?
So my audience is mostlyinterested.
They're searching for healthsolutions, not so much skin
solutions.
But because it's so femaledominant, a lot of them really
catch on, latch on to that skinmessage.
Is there anything you'd like toadd in closing?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, well, that's just it.
I get people.
People get drawn to me for theskin stuff.
Little do they know I'm goingto be unpacking a lot of things
behind the scenes that theyprobably just didn't know about.
So in closing I would referencemy recent research paper that I
wrote.
I've written multiple papers,peer review, journal board
(32:07):
member, all that stuff onoxidative stress status and its
impacts on the skin.
So my closing words is to notget overwhelmed with all the
things you could do.
It's just every day andthroughout the day.
Take a step in the rightdirection to clean up your
lifestyle, and by starting withpurifying your air, reducing LED
(32:28):
lighting which is actually whyI'm wearing these glasses too as
well as reducing the exposureto electromagnetic, so turning
the router off at night.
Actually, underneath thisbeautiful dress I'm wearing, I'm
even wearing EMF protectiveshorts over my gut and on my bed
behind here I have silverthreaded blankets.
(32:49):
You know, I don't hold my phoneto my ear.
I don't use anything smart, Imean smart technology, I think,
is killing us these days.
It's not making us any smarter,but just little things like
that can really make adifference, as well as purifying
the water and not drinking tapwater anymore and then starting
to do some detoxing, so all ofthose things can sound really
(33:11):
overwhelming, but I do make itsuper simple to begin with, that
and my research paper is opensource, so it's great for
clients, but also clinicians aswell.
Anyone can read it and it's onmy website as well.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So if someone wants to hear more about Rachel with
Margaret's ideas and see thatpaper, for instance, and your
podcast, what's the best placeto start?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, my website is the schoolofradientscom.
The schoolofradientscom, andthat's where you can book a
session.
Use promo code William Davisfor special savings as well.
I'd love to meet you and giveyou that guidance as your mentor
along the way as well, and forfree stuff.
(33:56):
Tune into the School ofRadiance podcast, where we
recently recorded a beautifulepisode together for positive
insights to help you become yourmost radiant version, and lots
of other things on the websitetoo.
I do tutorials.
I have a three 30 minutetraining as well.
Take advantage of that.
And, at the end of the day,when you look at caring for
(34:20):
yourself in a very specific waynot just for you, but for you to
be as healthy as possible sothat you have the best
relationships with yourself andothers the more people that
operate in this way of being aspure as possible, I think it's
just going to help the world bea better place, with less
scrambled people psychologicallyand with toxins.
(34:40):
So, at the end of the day,that's what I'm here to do
humble human on a mission hereto help others be radiant.
Because it's completelytransformed the way I look my
waist circumference it's likestaying lean is effortless now.
But it's all these differentlayers that really will have
this fact, maybe one, two yearslater for you looking and
(35:01):
feeling your best.
Looking good is a byproduct ofbeing well.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well, Reggie, you certainly do look terrific and I
love your message.
I hope many of my followersalso latch onto your message
because you're doing such greatwork.
Thank you.
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