October 29, 2025 • 21 mins
When the mind gets loud and the body goes into alert, thinking harder does not calm anything. Brenda and Catherine guide listeners to slow down. They introduce a gentle body scan practice to shift awareness into regulation. One breath. One sensation. One small shift. These small shifts build trust in the body’s signals.
They share how to use a body scan daily. Before checking a bank balance, during an argument, while parenting, when our inner alarm system fires without a clear cause. Listeners learn what to notice, how to track changes before and after, and simple resources like water, breath, movement, journaling, and truth-telling. Brenda introduces a Qoya movement practice.
This episode supports anyone who feels tired and wired, stuck in comparison, or unsure how to hear the body. Better choices grow from a rooted place. Stronger relationships grow from presence. A connected body keeps you from self-abandonment.
Episode Highlights
• What a body scan is and why it works
• Signs of dysregulation and the runaway train feeling
• Curiosity and compassion instead of fixing
• Practical cues to track during a scan
• Using the scan during money stress, relationship conflict, and busy days
• Movement and nature as pathways back to yourself
• Ego wants versus true desire
• One percent resourcing and integration
• How regulation deepens intimacy and choice
The upcoming episode #115 will be a toolbox episode, with the full guided body scan practice.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
Welcome to Desire is Medicine.
We are two very different womenliving a life led by desire,
inviting you into our world.
SPEAKER_00 (00:16):
I'm Brenda.
I'm a devoted practitioner tobeing my fully expressed true
self in my daily life,motherhood, relationships, and
my business.
Desire has taken me on quite aride, and every day I practice
listening to and following thevoice within.
I'm a middle school teacher,turned coach and guide of the
feminine.
SPEAKER_01 (00:36):
And I'm Catherine, devoted to living my life as the
truest and hopefully the highestversion of me.
I don't have children, I'venever been married, I spent
equal parts of my life incorporate as in some down and
low shady spaces.
I was the epitome of Tired andWired, and my path led me to
explore desire.
I'm a coach, guide, energyworker, and a forever student.
SPEAKER_00 (00:58):
Even after decades of inner work, we are humble
beginners, on the mat, stillexploring, always curious.
We believe that listening to andfollowing the nudge of desire is
a deep spiritual practice thathelps us grow.
SPEAKER_01 (01:12):
On the Desire as Medicine podcast, we talk to
each other, we interview peoplewe know and love about the
practice of desire, bringing ina very important piece that is
often overlooked beingresponsible for our desire.
Welcome back to the Desire asMedicine podcast.
Hello, friends, family,listeners.
(01:33):
So happy to be here with you,with the lovely Brenda as well.
She is here looking beautiful asalways.
So we're super psyched today.
Today we're bringing somethingto you that we normally just
talk to our clients about, butit felt big enough to bring
today.
And to like record a fullepisode just describing what is
(01:55):
this thing.
And today we're talking about abody scan, what it is, why it
matters, and how it helps usregulate and reconnect with
ourselves and others, actually.
I hear from so many women whosay, like, I'm doing all the
mindset work, but my body stillfeels like it's on high alert.
(02:15):
Like my vigilance center is justraring.
It makes me think of that caralarm.
Like whenever there's a storm,all the alarms go bonkers.
It's like that's what'shappening inside our bodies.
Or I hear, I can't even tellwhat I feel anymore until it
explodes.
Like people who suppress,especially, like they suppress,
(02:38):
suppress, suppress.
And the next thing you know,like it's like boom inside of
your body, outside of your body.
And usually there's some form oflike energetic chaos or
explosion that happenspotentially with a partner or
people we're relating to.
Brenda, you want to say moreabout that?
SPEAKER_00 (02:54):
Oh my goodness.
We hear this all the time withclients.
They know they're dysregulated,but they can't seem to get
regulated again.
And then that's even moreupsetting.
And then you're on the ride ofbeing upset, and then you get
even more upset, and itsnowballs.
And it's scary and it'sexhausting, and it can really
take you out.
(03:15):
The body can feel like a runawaytrain.
You're like, what is going onover here?
And you don't have a map to getback into your body to get back
to be regulated so you can feelcalm and be in your life.
It's hard.
It's scary.
SPEAKER_01 (03:35):
I love that thought that you just said like, be calm
and just be in your life.
Like, how good does that feel?
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
It's what we're here for.
We're supposed to be in ourlife, right?
And also we're supposed to maybego out a little bit.
Like we are not supposed to havelike, let me put it this way:
life isn't always going to be sosmooth.
It's not meant to be reallysmooth all the time.
We're here to experience bumpsalong the road.
(04:02):
Sorry, folks.
So we can grow and learn.
We're here to evolve.
That's what we're doing here.
SPEAKER_01 (04:09):
You're so kind.
I love the sorry folks.
We're here for the bumps alongthe road.
Sorry.
So true.
I things just happen.
Life with life.
50% of the time, it's just gonnasuck, right?
So today we're going tointroduce you to a body scan.
(04:31):
And I'm sure plenty of people dobody scans and it can be done in
so many different ways.
We're not going to be speakingabout something that is a
mind-bending.
It doesn't require any externalgadgets or, you know, you don't
need anything to be able to dothis.
But it's really powerful.
It's simple and powerful.
(04:53):
It's basically a guidedawareness practice where it
helps you reconnect with what'sactually happening inside of
you.
Not to fix it.
We're not here to fix anything,just to witness it, just to
notice.
Like, oh, this is mine.
This is happening for me in mybody.
And I'm going to be introducingyou.
We're going to eventually recorda guided meditation on this.
(05:15):
And it's not mine.
One of my mentors, Barry Tesla,she wrote, she's the author of
The Art of Money.
And she introduced this bodyscan.
And out of all the ones thatI've done, this has been
extremely helpful.
And I use it with my clients allthe time.
So just to give a great shoutout to her and her work, she
(05:35):
uses it with money.
Like, I mean, can we think abouta topic that is more
dysregulating than money?
I mean, I guess health, right?
When we when we something'shappening in our bodies.
I guess there are like health,wealth, relationships, always
those top three.
Something goes wrong in thatarena, and you're like, ah, I
can't sleep, I can't eat, Ican't breathe, I feel anxious.
(05:58):
Like all these things arise inour physical being where we just
want to check out.
We feel dysregulated, and it'sreally hard to stay grounded.
SPEAKER_00 (06:06):
Amen.
It can be really hard.
And you really hit the nail onthe head when you said about
awareness.
We're not here to fix anything.
There's nothing to fix.
It's about becoming more aware.
And so I that's what I loveabout the body scan is that it
slows you down.
It's a giant pause.
And you can, we we use it allthe time.
(06:28):
You and I both use it incoaching, meditation, breath
work.
And it's great to give a clientlanguage for what's going on in
your body.
This is everything.
And we're not taught this.
So we are all becomingre-educated on how to deal with
(06:48):
the difficult things when lifegets lithing, so to speak.
SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
Yeah, I'm even thinking about, you know, you
have a different practice thatyou do with your clients, COIA,
which is a movement practice tojust be in your body.
There are so many different waysto do it.
I mean, I know that clients willsay to me, like, I don't even
know what I'm looking for.
Like, what am I noticing or whatam I feeling for?
Right.
And that's the point.
Like, we don't have to do itperfectly.
(07:12):
We just have to be curious andstart to lean towards the tool
that we enjoy that works for us,right?
SPEAKER_00 (07:20):
Absolutely.
And I love that you brought upKOI because I do teach
KOIA-inspired movement.
It's wonderful because it'sbased on the idea that through
movement, we remember, we comeback to ourselves and that we
are like nature.
And we talk about that a lot onthis podcast because it's just
true.
We are part of nature and we'realways changing.
We are wise, we are wild, we arefree.
(07:44):
And how do we get back to ouressence?
And let's face it, we live in aworld where we are comparing
ourselves mostly on social mediaand on TV.
When I was growing up, it wasmagazines.
We're comparing ourselves towhat other people are doing.
And the the older I get and themore I learn about people and
myself, we're so very different.
(08:07):
We're wired so differently.
So the whole practice is justcoming back to ourselves.
How can you come back toyourself?
And that's what we're herebringing you today.
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
So excited.
Um you you use these magicwords.
That's what I want to call it,like coming back to ourselves.
Every time we put our attentionoutside of ourselves, whether
it's for validation or what do Ido next, every time we sort of
lean on something else to findour power or our answer, our
(08:39):
clarity.
Unfortunately, the further awaywe get from ourselves, feeling
disconnected is the worst.
The body scan can really helpyou just come back, come back to
yourself.
So you could be in aconversation with a partner, you
could be getting your kids readyfor dinner, you could be
preparing your kids to havedinner, you could be getting
(09:02):
ready to look at your bankbalances, you could be doing any
of the above, um, or somethingelse.
Pick yours.
And really the body checking ispause, listen and notice.
Feel what sensations arehappening for you in your body,
what emotions are coming up foryou?
(09:26):
Are you feeling tingling?
Are you feeling heat?
Are you feeling chills?
Goosebumps?
Are you feeling flat?
Can you feel anything?
Can you feel the saliva in yourmouth?
Can you not?
Does your tongue feel swollen?
Does your body feel swollen?
Like all the differentsensations that can be felt and
(09:48):
sensed by our senses.
The state of our breath.
Are we breathing shallow?
Are we breathing fully?
Emotions.
Emotions are tricky becausesometimes it comes with
thoughts, right?
I'm depressed, I'm sad, I'mhappy, I'm angry.
So we take them with a grain ofsalt.
We just notice and we're notfixing.
(10:09):
I'm angry.
Oh, I don't want to be angry.
Let me not be angry.
I'm this, I don't want to bethat.
Let's none of that.
We just noticing.
What's the thought?
And then when you have theseflying thoughts like bats or
birds, just let them pass.
We are only gathering that data.
We're just noticing.
We just want the information,the cues.
(10:31):
Because these are the thingsthat they're like keys.
They're gonna open up accessthat allow us to go deeper with
ourselves.
So we just have to be open andcurious.
We want to let ourselves get inthere, get into the body, and
we, whatever we notice, we wantto dose it with curiosity and
compassion.
(10:52):
Like, hello, anxiety, moneystory, money pattern, money
shame, or relationship story,relationship pattern, health
story, health shame.
Like, who are you?
What's there?
What are these thoughts tellingme?
What do you have to say?
And we just breathe through itwhile pouring as much compassion
(11:18):
as possible onto it, as muchcuriosity as possible, and just
letting ourselves feel like whatsensations do I feel?
Paying attention to what did Inotice before I started doing
this?
What am I noticing during?
What am I noticing after thisinteraction with myself?
And ultimately we're going torepeat, repeat, repeat as many
(11:42):
times as we can.
Whenever we are just simplyfeeling off, we want to get to
the place where we can askourselves, how can I just be 1%
more resourced in justlistening?
Like, can I hear what's going tohelp me get 1% more resourced?
Do I just need to take a fewmore breaths and be still?
(12:05):
Do I potentially need to journalmy thoughts?
Do I potentially need a glass ofwater, warm water, tea?
Do I need to say my truth tosomeone?
Speak my truth to someone?
Do I just need to check in withsomeone I love and tell them
that I love them?
The variation is just endless,right, Brenda?
(12:28):
Like what we could actually needto get resource in that moment.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
It is endless.
And I love the curiosity thatyou're bringing to this, the
permission for curiosity.
So often we think we have to dosomething about everything, that
we have to take action oneverything, or we have to be in
motion all the time and fixingproblems.
(12:53):
And what we're suggesting hereis a slowing down and a pausing
to just be with yourself andjust get curious.
And this is a priceless practicebecause there is no substitute
(13:14):
or nothing better than knowingyour own body and understanding
your own body and knowing how tobe sovereign in that way and
just be curious, that ispriceless in this world.
If you want to have more money,better relationships, a career
(13:36):
that you love, whatever it isthat you're doing, even if
you're just walking down thestreet, knowing your body and
what's happening in your body iseverything.
So we're really talking aboutthis practice as a reconnection
to yourself.
Because let's face it, we livein a world where we really
(13:59):
haven't been taught to beconnected to our bodies.
We live in a world where we aregenerally disconnected from our
bodies.
And it's painful.
It is painful to be disconnectedfrom yourself.
I've lived that pain.
I've seen my clients live thatpain.
(14:22):
And the practice of getting backinto connection with yourself is
everything.
It's everything.
So we're really excited aboutthis.
And you might be thinking, abody scan.
I can't sit for that long.
My mind will never stop racing.
(14:44):
Or I don't even know what I'msupposed to notice.
How do I even know what I'msupposed to notice?
What if I don't do it right?
This isn't about being a monk ordoing anything perfectly.
We're just suggesting toreconnect with yourself.
(15:06):
Learn to listen to your body.
How can you listen to your bodyjust a little bit more?
SPEAKER_01 (15:13):
I love your passion around this.
Like how passionate you areabout being in connection with
your body.
It had me think about otherthings.
I mean, this is a desire asmedicine podcast, and we do help
people reconnect with theirdesires.
It's really hard to be connectedto your desire if you're not
(15:34):
connected to your body.
Desire often, when we're notconnected to our body, shows up
as ego desires, right?
Like what would look good in theworld, what shiny thing we think
will add value to us as humans,so that we can be liked, loved,
wanted, so that we can shapeshift into being more palatable
(16:00):
for someone, for a group ofsomeones, for family, for
friends, for our partners.
The more connected we are withourselves, the harder it is to
abandon ourselves.
Because we can just hear the,hey, where are you going?
What are you doing?
Why are you doing that for?
Why are you shape shifting likethat?
Nope.
Come back.
Remember, you're tired.
(16:22):
You shouldn't be overextending.
You shouldn't be, and it's a loteasier to hear when you're
connected with yourself.
You said you've felt that painwhen you're not connected to
your body.
I've felt the pain when I wouldbe around loved ones and I could
feel like there was adisconnect.
And I thought that in order forme to get more connected to this
other person or other people, tohave deeper friendships and
(16:48):
relationships required moreintimacy, but it had to slow
that down and have more intimacywith myself.
Like be in stillness with selfmore often.
And not just in meditation, notwhere I'm creating a blank
slate.
More of scanning, like what'shappening with me right now?
(17:10):
Like where am I at?
And this is what we want toinvite you to do with us.
We're going to be recordingthis, but we wanted to give you
a real in-depth explanation ofwhy it matters.
Like and how this actuallyultimately helps us regulate
(17:32):
because we're checking in withwhat can I do to to have myself
feel even one percent better?
And that one percent, I know itsounds small, but it's actually
really helpful, right, Brenda?
Like so funny.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
It's so helpful.
What I've experienced and whatI've seen my clients experience
is when we go one percent at atime, we learn how to integrate
it into our bodies and ourlives, and then we get to keep
it.
So giant peak experiences whereyou're like, oh my God, I found
(18:08):
the gold.
This is it, my whole life isdifferent.
That's harder to integrate overtime, but a little bit over
time, one step at a time, babysteps, that's that's really
something that I can get onboard with because I think
that's how it really works inour bodies.
(18:30):
You know, spirit world is quickand fast, earth work and body is
slower.
And this beautiful practice ofreconnecting with yourself.
What's more important than that?
What is more important thanthat?
It's your your connection withyourself is the basis for
everything in your life.
(18:51):
We want you to have what youwant in your life.
That's what we're here for.
Catherine and I want to havewhat we want in our life.
We're in this practice.
We are in this practice, and themore you can be with yourself,
the more you can be with ready,those big desires.
SPEAKER_01 (19:10):
Amen.
Amen.
Thanks so much for reminding usthat we need time for
integration.
And that 1% does make it a loteasier.
It helps us.
Quantum leaping, the idea ofquantum leaping is so delicious,
but the slow incremental babysteps really ensure that we're
(19:31):
becoming the people that we needto become along the way.
It's so much more sustainable.
And for bodies that are alreadyin fight or flight, it's so much
gentler.
It's a lot easier to hold thatlevel of receptivity when you're
just sort of incrementallygrowing.
And if you're curious about whatit looks like to work with us
(19:53):
more deeply, Brenda and I dothis kind of work.
Like we both support womenone-to-one to build more
emotional sobriety.
And we definitely have thesepractices to help you embody who
you're becoming a baby step at atime.
You can find our links in theshow notes to book a call with
us to explore what it's like todo this kind of nervous system
(20:16):
work where you can transformyour relationship to yourself.
Please look out for the nextdrop of the actual body scan and
the meditation that we're goingto be dropping.
If you resonated with anythingthat we spoke about today,
please subscribe to our podcast,like, share, rate.
(20:37):
It is the best way for you tosupport our work.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
Bye for now.
SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
Thank you for joining us on the Desire is
Medicine podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (20:53):
Desire invites us to be honest, loving, and deeply
intimate with ourselves andothers.
You can find our handles in theshow notes.
We'd love to hear from you.
Welcome to Desire is Medicine.
We are two very different womenliving a life led by desire,
inviting you into our world.
SPEAKER_00 (00:16):
I'm Brenda.
I'm a devoted practitioner tobeing my fully expressed true
self in my daily life,motherhood, relationships, and
my business.
Desire has taken me on quite aride, and every day I practice
listening to and following thevoice within.
I'm a middle school teacher,turned coach and guide of the
feminine.
SPEAKER_01 (00:36):
And I'm Catherine, devoted to living my life as the
truest and hopefully the highestversion of me.
I don't have children, I'venever been married, I spent
equal parts of my life incorporate as in some down and
low shady spaces.
I was the epitome of Tired andWired, and my path led me to
explore desire.
I'm a coach, guide, energyworker, and a forever student.
SPEAKER_00 (00:58):
Even after decades of inner work, we are humble
beginners, on the mat, stillexploring, always curious.
We believe that listening to andfollowing the nudge of desire is
a deep spiritual practice thathelps us grow.
SPEAKER_01 (01:12):
On the Desire as Medicine podcast, we talk to
each other, we interview peoplewe know and love about the
practice of desire, bringing ina very important piece that is
often overlooked beingresponsible for our desire.
Welcome back to the Desire asMedicine podcast.
Hello, friends, family,listeners.
(01:33):
So happy to be here with you,with the lovely Brenda as well.
She is here looking beautiful asalways.
So we're super psyched today.
Today we're bringing somethingto you that we normally just
talk to our clients about, butit felt big enough to bring
today.
And to like record a fullepisode just describing what is
(01:55):
this thing.
And today we're talking about abody scan, what it is, why it
matters, and how it helps usregulate and reconnect with
ourselves and others, actually.
I hear from so many women whosay, like, I'm doing all the
mindset work, but my body stillfeels like it's on high alert.
(02:15):
Like my vigilance center is justraring.
It makes me think of that caralarm.
Like whenever there's a storm,all the alarms go bonkers.
It's like that's what'shappening inside our bodies.
Or I hear, I can't even tellwhat I feel anymore until it
explodes.
Like people who suppress,especially, like they suppress,
(02:38):
suppress, suppress.
And the next thing you know,like it's like boom inside of
your body, outside of your body.
And usually there's some form oflike energetic chaos or
explosion that happenspotentially with a partner or
people we're relating to.
Brenda, you want to say moreabout that?
SPEAKER_00 (02:54):
Oh my goodness.
We hear this all the time withclients.
They know they're dysregulated,but they can't seem to get
regulated again.
And then that's even moreupsetting.
And then you're on the ride ofbeing upset, and then you get
even more upset, and itsnowballs.
And it's scary and it'sexhausting, and it can really
take you out.
(03:15):
The body can feel like a runawaytrain.
You're like, what is going onover here?
And you don't have a map to getback into your body to get back
to be regulated so you can feelcalm and be in your life.
It's hard.
It's scary.
SPEAKER_01 (03:35):
I love that thought that you just said like, be calm
and just be in your life.
Like, how good does that feel?
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
It's what we're here for.
We're supposed to be in ourlife, right?
And also we're supposed to maybego out a little bit.
Like we are not supposed to havelike, let me put it this way:
life isn't always going to be sosmooth.
It's not meant to be reallysmooth all the time.
We're here to experience bumpsalong the road.
(04:02):
Sorry, folks.
So we can grow and learn.
We're here to evolve.
That's what we're doing here.
SPEAKER_01 (04:09):
You're so kind.
I love the sorry folks.
We're here for the bumps alongthe road.
Sorry.
So true.
I things just happen.
Life with life.
50% of the time, it's just gonnasuck, right?
So today we're going tointroduce you to a body scan.
(04:31):
And I'm sure plenty of people dobody scans and it can be done in
so many different ways.
We're not going to be speakingabout something that is a
mind-bending.
It doesn't require any externalgadgets or, you know, you don't
need anything to be able to dothis.
But it's really powerful.
It's simple and powerful.
(04:53):
It's basically a guidedawareness practice where it
helps you reconnect with what'sactually happening inside of
you.
Not to fix it.
We're not here to fix anything,just to witness it, just to
notice.
Like, oh, this is mine.
This is happening for me in mybody.
And I'm going to be introducingyou.
We're going to eventually recorda guided meditation on this.
(05:15):
And it's not mine.
One of my mentors, Barry Tesla,she wrote, she's the author of
The Art of Money.
And she introduced this bodyscan.
And out of all the ones thatI've done, this has been
extremely helpful.
And I use it with my clients allthe time.
So just to give a great shoutout to her and her work, she
(05:35):
uses it with money.
Like, I mean, can we think abouta topic that is more
dysregulating than money?
I mean, I guess health, right?
When we when we something'shappening in our bodies.
I guess there are like health,wealth, relationships, always
those top three.
Something goes wrong in thatarena, and you're like, ah, I
can't sleep, I can't eat, Ican't breathe, I feel anxious.
(05:58):
Like all these things arise inour physical being where we just
want to check out.
We feel dysregulated, and it'sreally hard to stay grounded.
SPEAKER_00 (06:06):
Amen.
It can be really hard.
And you really hit the nail onthe head when you said about
awareness.
We're not here to fix anything.
There's nothing to fix.
It's about becoming more aware.
And so I that's what I loveabout the body scan is that it
slows you down.
It's a giant pause.
And you can, we we use it allthe time.
(06:28):
You and I both use it incoaching, meditation, breath
work.
And it's great to give a clientlanguage for what's going on in
your body.
This is everything.
And we're not taught this.
So we are all becomingre-educated on how to deal with
(06:48):
the difficult things when lifegets lithing, so to speak.
SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
Yeah, I'm even thinking about, you know, you
have a different practice thatyou do with your clients, COIA,
which is a movement practice tojust be in your body.
There are so many different waysto do it.
I mean, I know that clients willsay to me, like, I don't even
know what I'm looking for.
Like, what am I noticing or whatam I feeling for?
Right.
And that's the point.
Like, we don't have to do itperfectly.
(07:12):
We just have to be curious andstart to lean towards the tool
that we enjoy that works for us,right?
SPEAKER_00 (07:20):
Absolutely.
And I love that you brought upKOI because I do teach
KOIA-inspired movement.
It's wonderful because it'sbased on the idea that through
movement, we remember, we comeback to ourselves and that we
are like nature.
And we talk about that a lot onthis podcast because it's just
true.
We are part of nature and we'realways changing.
We are wise, we are wild, we arefree.
(07:44):
And how do we get back to ouressence?
And let's face it, we live in aworld where we are comparing
ourselves mostly on social mediaand on TV.
When I was growing up, it wasmagazines.
We're comparing ourselves towhat other people are doing.
And the the older I get and themore I learn about people and
myself, we're so very different.
(08:07):
We're wired so differently.
So the whole practice is justcoming back to ourselves.
How can you come back toyourself?
And that's what we're herebringing you today.
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
So excited.
Um you you use these magicwords.
That's what I want to call it,like coming back to ourselves.
Every time we put our attentionoutside of ourselves, whether
it's for validation or what do Ido next, every time we sort of
lean on something else to findour power or our answer, our
(08:39):
clarity.
Unfortunately, the further awaywe get from ourselves, feeling
disconnected is the worst.
The body scan can really helpyou just come back, come back to
yourself.
So you could be in aconversation with a partner, you
could be getting your kids readyfor dinner, you could be
preparing your kids to havedinner, you could be getting
(09:02):
ready to look at your bankbalances, you could be doing any
of the above, um, or somethingelse.
Pick yours.
And really the body checking ispause, listen and notice.
Feel what sensations arehappening for you in your body,
what emotions are coming up foryou?
(09:26):
Are you feeling tingling?
Are you feeling heat?
Are you feeling chills?
Goosebumps?
Are you feeling flat?
Can you feel anything?
Can you feel the saliva in yourmouth?
Can you not?
Does your tongue feel swollen?
Does your body feel swollen?
Like all the differentsensations that can be felt and
(09:48):
sensed by our senses.
The state of our breath.
Are we breathing shallow?
Are we breathing fully?
Emotions.
Emotions are tricky becausesometimes it comes with
thoughts, right?
I'm depressed, I'm sad, I'mhappy, I'm angry.
So we take them with a grain ofsalt.
We just notice and we're notfixing.
(10:09):
I'm angry.
Oh, I don't want to be angry.
Let me not be angry.
I'm this, I don't want to bethat.
Let's none of that.
We just noticing.
What's the thought?
And then when you have theseflying thoughts like bats or
birds, just let them pass.
We are only gathering that data.
We're just noticing.
We just want the information,the cues.
(10:31):
Because these are the thingsthat they're like keys.
They're gonna open up accessthat allow us to go deeper with
ourselves.
So we just have to be open andcurious.
We want to let ourselves get inthere, get into the body, and
we, whatever we notice, we wantto dose it with curiosity and
compassion.
(10:52):
Like, hello, anxiety, moneystory, money pattern, money
shame, or relationship story,relationship pattern, health
story, health shame.
Like, who are you?
What's there?
What are these thoughts tellingme?
What do you have to say?
And we just breathe through itwhile pouring as much compassion
(11:18):
as possible onto it, as muchcuriosity as possible, and just
letting ourselves feel like whatsensations do I feel?
Paying attention to what did Inotice before I started doing
this?
What am I noticing during?
What am I noticing after thisinteraction with myself?
And ultimately we're going torepeat, repeat, repeat as many
(11:42):
times as we can.
Whenever we are just simplyfeeling off, we want to get to
the place where we can askourselves, how can I just be 1%
more resourced in justlistening?
Like, can I hear what's going tohelp me get 1% more resourced?
Do I just need to take a fewmore breaths and be still?
(12:05):
Do I potentially need to journalmy thoughts?
Do I potentially need a glass ofwater, warm water, tea?
Do I need to say my truth tosomeone?
Speak my truth to someone?
Do I just need to check in withsomeone I love and tell them
that I love them?
The variation is just endless,right, Brenda?
(12:28):
Like what we could actually needto get resource in that moment.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
It is endless.
And I love the curiosity thatyou're bringing to this, the
permission for curiosity.
So often we think we have to dosomething about everything, that
we have to take action oneverything, or we have to be in
motion all the time and fixingproblems.
(12:53):
And what we're suggesting hereis a slowing down and a pausing
to just be with yourself andjust get curious.
And this is a priceless practicebecause there is no substitute
(13:14):
or nothing better than knowingyour own body and understanding
your own body and knowing how tobe sovereign in that way and
just be curious, that ispriceless in this world.
If you want to have more money,better relationships, a career
(13:36):
that you love, whatever it isthat you're doing, even if
you're just walking down thestreet, knowing your body and
what's happening in your body iseverything.
So we're really talking aboutthis practice as a reconnection
to yourself.
Because let's face it, we livein a world where we really
(13:59):
haven't been taught to beconnected to our bodies.
We live in a world where we aregenerally disconnected from our
bodies.
And it's painful.
It is painful to be disconnectedfrom yourself.
I've lived that pain.
I've seen my clients live thatpain.
(14:22):
And the practice of getting backinto connection with yourself is
everything.
It's everything.
So we're really excited aboutthis.
And you might be thinking, abody scan.
I can't sit for that long.
My mind will never stop racing.
(14:44):
Or I don't even know what I'msupposed to notice.
How do I even know what I'msupposed to notice?
What if I don't do it right?
This isn't about being a monk ordoing anything perfectly.
We're just suggesting toreconnect with yourself.
(15:06):
Learn to listen to your body.
How can you listen to your bodyjust a little bit more?
SPEAKER_01 (15:13):
I love your passion around this.
Like how passionate you areabout being in connection with
your body.
It had me think about otherthings.
I mean, this is a desire asmedicine podcast, and we do help
people reconnect with theirdesires.
It's really hard to be connectedto your desire if you're not
(15:34):
connected to your body.
Desire often, when we're notconnected to our body, shows up
as ego desires, right?
Like what would look good in theworld, what shiny thing we think
will add value to us as humans,so that we can be liked, loved,
wanted, so that we can shapeshift into being more palatable
(16:00):
for someone, for a group ofsomeones, for family, for
friends, for our partners.
The more connected we are withourselves, the harder it is to
abandon ourselves.
Because we can just hear the,hey, where are you going?
What are you doing?
Why are you doing that for?
Why are you shape shifting likethat?
Nope.
Come back.
Remember, you're tired.
(16:22):
You shouldn't be overextending.
You shouldn't be, and it's a loteasier to hear when you're
connected with yourself.
You said you've felt that painwhen you're not connected to
your body.
I've felt the pain when I wouldbe around loved ones and I could
feel like there was adisconnect.
And I thought that in order forme to get more connected to this
other person or other people, tohave deeper friendships and
(16:48):
relationships required moreintimacy, but it had to slow
that down and have more intimacywith myself.
Like be in stillness with selfmore often.
And not just in meditation, notwhere I'm creating a blank
slate.
More of scanning, like what'shappening with me right now?
(17:10):
Like where am I at?
And this is what we want toinvite you to do with us.
We're going to be recordingthis, but we wanted to give you
a real in-depth explanation ofwhy it matters.
Like and how this actuallyultimately helps us regulate
(17:32):
because we're checking in withwhat can I do to to have myself
feel even one percent better?
And that one percent, I know itsounds small, but it's actually
really helpful, right, Brenda?
Like so funny.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
It's so helpful.
What I've experienced and whatI've seen my clients experience
is when we go one percent at atime, we learn how to integrate
it into our bodies and ourlives, and then we get to keep
it.
So giant peak experiences whereyou're like, oh my God, I found
(18:08):
the gold.
This is it, my whole life isdifferent.
That's harder to integrate overtime, but a little bit over
time, one step at a time, babysteps, that's that's really
something that I can get onboard with because I think
that's how it really works inour bodies.
(18:30):
You know, spirit world is quickand fast, earth work and body is
slower.
And this beautiful practice ofreconnecting with yourself.
What's more important than that?
What is more important thanthat?
It's your your connection withyourself is the basis for
everything in your life.
(18:51):
We want you to have what youwant in your life.
That's what we're here for.
Catherine and I want to havewhat we want in our life.
We're in this practice.
We are in this practice, and themore you can be with yourself,
the more you can be with ready,those big desires.
SPEAKER_01 (19:10):
Amen.
Amen.
Thanks so much for reminding usthat we need time for
integration.
And that 1% does make it a loteasier.
It helps us.
Quantum leaping, the idea ofquantum leaping is so delicious,
but the slow incremental babysteps really ensure that we're
(19:31):
becoming the people that we needto become along the way.
It's so much more sustainable.
And for bodies that are alreadyin fight or flight, it's so much
gentler.
It's a lot easier to hold thatlevel of receptivity when you're
just sort of incrementallygrowing.
And if you're curious about whatit looks like to work with us
(19:53):
more deeply, Brenda and I dothis kind of work.
Like we both support womenone-to-one to build more
emotional sobriety.
And we definitely have thesepractices to help you embody who
you're becoming a baby step at atime.
You can find our links in theshow notes to book a call with
us to explore what it's like todo this kind of nervous system
(20:16):
work where you can transformyour relationship to yourself.
Please look out for the nextdrop of the actual body scan and
the meditation that we're goingto be dropping.
If you resonated with anythingthat we spoke about today,
please subscribe to our podcast,like, share, rate.
(20:37):
It is the best way for you tosupport our work.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
Bye for now.
SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
Thank you for joining us on the Desire is
Medicine podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (20:53):
Desire invites us to be honest, loving, and deeply
intimate with ourselves andothers.
You can find our handles in theshow notes.
We'd love to hear from you.
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