October 8, 2024 • 15 mins
Many will know that I’ve just published my new book, Digitally Curious: Your Guide to Navigating the Future of AI and All Things Tech, which is now available worldwide.
The reception has been overwhelmingly positive, and I believe it is a book that will help many people better understand the technology surrounding us.
I’ve already been interviewed on several podcasts about the book, and you can find links to these below.
I wanted to showcase the book on the podcast, but it would be strange for me to interview myself.
I recently presented at the Skillsoft London Perspectives event at the Shard on “The future of work in the age of AI.”
I always strive to present the latest thinking in my keynotes, and as part of my research, I wanted to try out the new Google product Notebook LM, which stands for Notebook Language Model.
You can access it via notebooklm.google
In Google’s own words: NotebookLM is your personalised AI research assistant powered by Google's most capable model, Gemini 1.5 Pro.
One cool feature is the ability to upload your data and turn it into a podcast with two AI-generated hosts.
I decided to try this out with the book. I uploaded the book's PDF, which contains 74,000 words, and pushed the button to make a podcast.
I did nothing else. Five minutes later, what you hear on this episode is what was produced verbatim.
I’ve not edited the 12-minute AI-generated episode in any way.
I don’t think this will immediately replace podcasts or podcast hosts. However, it may be a new way to present written information.
We all have different learning styles, and so perhaps this would help people who prefer to listen instead of reading content.
I look forward to your thoughts on this and the content from my AI hosts about the book.
If you’d like to pick up a copy of the book head to curious.click/order, and as always, I encourage you to stay curious.
Resources
NotebookLM
AI in Education Podcast with Nadio Granata
Silicon UK Podcast on Digitally Curious
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Digitally Curious, a podcast to help you
navigate the future of AI andbeyond.
Your host is world-renownedfuturist and author of Digitally
Curious, Andrew Grill.
Every episode is filled withactionable advice about
technology that will helpenhance you and your business.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome to the Digitally Curious podcast, and
today's episode is a littledifferent.
As I'm sure you're aware, I'vejust published my new book,
digitally Curious, and it's nowavailable around the world.
The reception has beenoverwhelmingly positive and I
believe it's a book that willhelp many people better
understand the technology thatsurrounds us.
I've already been interviewedon a number of podcasts about
(00:46):
the book and you can find linksto these in the show notes.
I wanted to showcase the bookDigitally Curious on the podcast
of the same name, but it wouldbe strange for me to interview
myself Today.
I presented at the SkillsoftLondon Perspectives event at the
Shard.
My topic was the future of workin the age of AI.
(01:07):
I always strive to present thelatest thinking in my keynotes
and in preparing.
I wanted to try out the newGoogle product, notebook LM,
which stands for NotebookLanguage Model.
You can access it vianotebooklmgoogle.
In Google's own words, canaccess it via notebooklmgoogle.
(01:29):
In Google's own words, notebookLM is your personalized AI
research assistant, powered byGoogle's most capable model,
gemini 1.5 Pro.
One of the cool features is theability to upload your own data
and have it turned into apodcast with two AI generated
hosts.
I decided to try this out withthe book.
I uploaded the book's PDFcontaining 74,000 words and
(01:49):
pushed the button to make apodcast.
I did nothing else.
Five minutes later, what youhear next is what was produced
verbatim.
I've not edited the 12-minuteAI-generated podcast in any way,
so, mind blown, let's listen tothe deep dive on Digitally
Curious.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Hey everyone and welcome back.
We're diving deep this time onthe deep dive, really getting
into Andrew Grill's DigitallyCurious.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, and we've got a ton to unpack.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We do Excerpts from the book, some related articles,
even podcast appearances.
Really amazing stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
A real treasure trove , exactly.
So we're going to dig into whathe really means by this whole
(02:47):
digital curiosity thing, why itshould matter an ivory tower.
This is a guy who wrote hisfirst program at six years old
Wow, six years old.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I was like playing with dolls at six.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
He's been on the front lines of technology for
over three decades, leadingteams at IBM, living and
breathing the changes most of usjust read about.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Right, it's like his journey as the evolution of tech
.
Yeah, and he's adamant thatdigital curiosity isn't just
about having the latest phone orknowing how to code, it's a
mindset, right.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And girl says you can like kickstart yours by picking
one new technology every weekand just diving in.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Read about it, play with it, see how it works.
It's about being proactive, aseeker of knowledge, not just a
passive consumer of it.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, there's a real reason why.
It points to research showingthat businesses led by digitally
curious people are wellseriously outperforming everyone
else they're not just keepingup.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It sounds like they're gaining a real edge.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He even has this concept.
He calls it the Starbucks test.
Have you ever noticed howyou'll be like overhearing
people at a coffee shop andsuddenly everyone's talking
about some new tech?
That's your cue, grill says.
That means that tech is aboutto hit the mainstream.
So if you're already in theknow, you're already ahead of
the game.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's about spotting the next big thing before it's
everywhere, understanding itspotential impact and being ready
to adapt and even like,capitalize on it before anyone
else.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And speaking of the next big thing, we have to talk
about chat, gpt, oh, yeah.
Grill says that when itexploded onto the scene in 2022,
it was a wake up call foreveryone, even like tech
veterans like himself.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Suddenly, AI wasn't some far off concept.
Concept, it was here and it waschanging everything.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And Grill doesn't just jump on the AI bandwagon,
he takes us all the way back tothe beginning.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
He traces AI from Alan Turing's mind-blowing
question can machines think?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's a big one.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
All the way to the latest breakthroughs in deep
learning.
It's a fascinating journey thatgives us the context to really
understand where AI is going.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I love that he emphasizes that AI isn't about
robots taking over the world,which, let's be honest, we've
all thought about at some point,right.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Of course, but Grill stresses that it's about
understanding both the strengthsand delimitations of this
technology, being able toseparate the hype from the
reality.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So how do we go from AI being this big, mysterious
thing to actually using it inour everyday work lives?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, grill really emphasizes the need for a
strategic approach.
Okay, yeah, he says it's notabout finding some magic AI
button to fix everything Right,but rather like identifying
specific tasks or processeswhere AI can really add value.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
OK, so start small.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Exactly Experiment, see what works.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, he also says something that I think is so
important Don't underestimatechange management.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Bringing in any new technology can be disruptive.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But especially something like AI right.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It's true, people can be resistant to change,
especially if they feel liketheir jobs are on the line.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Grill says it's about bringing everyone on board,
getting them comfortable withthe technology, giving them the
training and support they needto succeed in this new landscape
.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I love how he gives readers those actionable steps.
He calls it the Curious FiveChallenge.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And encourages listeners to engage with AI
directly.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, get your hands dirty.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That could be anything from like testing out
an AI writing tool to actuallyexploring AI use cases in their
own industries.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's about making AI less abstract and more tangible,
yeah, showing you how it can berelevant to your work and your
life.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
OK, so we've covered a ton of ground on AI we have,
but Grill doesn't stop there,right?
Nope, he argues that beingdigitally curious means
understanding the entire techlandscape.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And it's always evolving.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And a big part of that is, like the often
overlooked backbone of it allCloud computing.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
The backbone, absolutely, and he doesn't just
throw out jargon.
No, he's good at that.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
He really breaks down those different cloud models.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, public private hybrid.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And focuses on like one key difference with each one
yeah.
Like with the public cloud.
He says it's all aboutaffordability and scalability.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Makes sense.
Yeah, you only pay for what youuse.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And then he dives into security, which is
something everyone seems toworry about with the cloud right
.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, it comes up a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Grill argues that it's often more secure than
traditional on-premises systems,interesting Especially with all
the advanced security measuresthat cloud providers have in
place.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
They have whole teams dedicated to it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Right.
It's their bread and butter andto really bring it home.
He talks about Origo, a companythat's developing those.
What are they called?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yes, autonomous vehicles, and they're using
cloud services combined with a5G network to allow for remote
supervision of their vehicles.
This is fascinating.
It's a real-world example ofhow these technologies are
converging to create somethingtotally new.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It's amazing to see it in action.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Speaking of real-world impact, we have to
talk about the Internet ofThings.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh yeah, or as the cool kids call it, IOT.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
IOT Right Grill points out that IOT is already
deeply embedded in our lives.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Even if we don't always realize it.
It's everything from smarthomes and fitness trackers to
the smart refrigerators that canlike order groceries for you.
I know, I know my fridge ordersme more oat milk than I could
ever drink.
But on a serious note, Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Grill points out that the real power of IoT lies in
its potential across industries.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right, it's bigger than just our kitchens.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He talks about healthcare with remote patient
monitoring, retail with likepersonalized shopping experience
.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Oh yeah, those targeted ads are getting scary.
Good, I know.
Like, how do they know I neededthat?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Even manufacturing, with real time data analysis to
optimize production.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's revolutionizing so many fields.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And, of course, we can't talk about interconnected
devices without mentioning 5G.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
It's the glue that holds it all together mentioning
5G.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's the glue that holds it all together.
Grill takes the time to explain5G in a way that even like your
tech challenged uncle couldunderstand.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
That's a high bar.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He walks us through each generation of mobile
technology, like clearly layingout what makes 5G different.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It's about time someone did.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He also clears up some confusion around those
standalone and non-standalone 5Gnetworks which I think a lot of
us, myself included, find a bitconfusing.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He really breaks it down and makes it crystal clear.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I like that.
No jargon.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
He doesn't shy away from the challenges either, like
the need for a lot moreinfrastructure if we want to
unleash the full potential of 5G.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We need those cell towers.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And the security concerns that come with having,
like billions of devicesconnected to the internet.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, security is always a moving target.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Right.
But he's also really optimisticabout the possibilities like
using 5G to power smart cities.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Imagine that.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Create truly immersive entertainment
experiences.
Oh man, Even enable remotesurgery.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
The possibilities are mind boggling.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's about looking beyond the hype to see the real
world applications andunderstanding how those
applications impact our dailylives, but it sounds like Grill
is all about prepping us forwhat's next thought this was
(10:06):
something straight out of StarTrek, until I really dug into it
.
Yeah, it does sound a bit likescience fiction.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It does.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But Grill actually makes it surprisingly accessible
.
Okay, even if you don't have,you know, a physics degree.
He explains how these quantumcomputers use things called
crebits, which can be both azero and a one at the same time.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Wait what?
How is that even possible?
It's quantum mechanics.
It's like they operate onanother level entirely, which
lets them tackle problems thatwould take traditional computers
well, basically forever.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So much faster.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Exponentially faster.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
He uses this really interesting example of
fertilizer production.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Oh yeah, it's not something like most of us think
about every day, not exactly aglamorous topic, I know right,
but it's actually a hugelyenergy intensive process.
Oh, wow.
And Grill says that quantumcomputers could be the key to
designing, like way moreefficient enzymes for this
process.
Okay, making a real impact on,you know, energy consumption in
(11:05):
the environment.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
That's amazing.
So it's not just about, likemaking computers faster, it's
about solving real worldproblems.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Exactly, and that's just you know.
One example Drug discovery,material science, financial
modeling, quantum computingcould completely revolutionize
all of them.
It's a lot to take in, it is,it is, and you know, grill
doesn't shy away from thepotential downsides either.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Because there always are some Right, always.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
He talks about something called Q-Day, which
you know sounds a little ominous, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It does what is?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Q-Day.
It's this idea that quantumcomputers will get so powerful
that they could actually crackthe encryption that protects,
well, basically everythingonline.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Everything Our bank accounts, our email, like
everything.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Pretty much yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's a scary thought.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It is, and Grill is very upfront about this threat,
you know, encouraging everyoneto start thinking about
quantum-resistant encryption now, but he also reassures us that
Q-Day is still a while away,maybe a decade or more.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Okay, so their eye is time to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
There is, it's not an immediate crisis.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's a relief.
So, as always with likeemerging tech, it's about being
aware of both the amazingpossibilities and, you know, the
potential downsides.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Right.
And speaking of possibilities,Grill doesn't just stop at
quantum computing.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
No.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
He takes us even further into the future with
this idea of, well, the linesbetween the digital and physical
worlds, you know, blurringcompletely.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
OK, now, this is where it gets really sci-fi.
What does that even look like?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, he paints this really vivid picture of a world
with things like digital pillsthat can, like, perform full
body scans from the inside.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
What.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Smart watches that can predict health problems
before you even have symptoms.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
No way.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Even information beamed directly to our retinas.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay, that's a little freaky, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It sounds both incredible and a little
unnerving.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, yeah, like are we ready to live in a world
where technology is thatintegrated into our lives?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
That's exactly the question Grill leaves us with.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
He does like to make us think, doesn't he?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
He does.
Are we going to just be sweptalong by these technological
waves or are we going toactively participate in shaping
this future?
It's a powerful challenge.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It is, and it kind of brings us back to that core
idea of digital curiosity,doesn't it?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Absolutely.
It's not just about, you know,staying ahead of the curve or
impressing your friends withyour knowledge of the latest
gadgets.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
It's about understanding how these
technologies are going to impactour lives, our work, our
societies even, and using thatunderstanding to make informed
choices about the future that wewant to create.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's like Gorilla saying look, the future is being
written right now and you havea chance to grab the pen and,
like add your own chapter.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's exciting, it's daunting and, honestly, it's a
little bit terrifying.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Well, at the same time.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But it's up to us to decide what role we want to play
.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And that's the beauty of it, right.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It is.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It's about embracing that constant learning, that
drive to understand, thatwillingness to engage with the
unknown.
It's what makes this wholejourney so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Absolutely so.
Go out there, get curious andlet's shape this future together
.
That's our deep dive for today.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So what did you think ?
I don't think this willimmediately replace podcast or
podcast host.
However, it may be a new way topresent written information.
We all have different learningstyles, and so perhaps this
would help people learn whoprefer to listen instead of
reading content.
I look forward to your thoughtson this and also the content
(14:37):
from my AI host about the book.
If you'd like to pick up a copyof the book, head to
curiousclick forward.
Slash order and, as always, Iencourage you to stay curious.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thank you for listening to Digitally Curious.
You can find all of ourprevious shows at
digitallycuriousai.
Until next time, we invite youto stay digitally curious.
Welcome to Digitally Curious, a podcast to help you
navigate the future of AI andbeyond.
Your host is world-renownedfuturist and author of Digitally
Curious, Andrew Grill.
Every episode is filled withactionable advice about
technology that will helpenhance you and your business.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome to the Digitally Curious podcast, and
today's episode is a littledifferent.
As I'm sure you're aware, I'vejust published my new book,
digitally Curious, and it's nowavailable around the world.
The reception has beenoverwhelmingly positive and I
believe it's a book that willhelp many people better
understand the technology thatsurrounds us.
I've already been interviewedon a number of podcasts about
(00:46):
the book and you can find linksto these in the show notes.
I wanted to showcase the bookDigitally Curious on the podcast
of the same name, but it wouldbe strange for me to interview
myself Today.
I presented at the SkillsoftLondon Perspectives event at the
Shard.
My topic was the future of workin the age of AI.
(01:07):
I always strive to present thelatest thinking in my keynotes
and in preparing.
I wanted to try out the newGoogle product, notebook LM,
which stands for NotebookLanguage Model.
You can access it vianotebooklmgoogle.
In Google's own words, canaccess it via notebooklmgoogle.
(01:29):
In Google's own words, notebookLM is your personalized AI
research assistant, powered byGoogle's most capable model,
gemini 1.5 Pro.
One of the cool features is theability to upload your own data
and have it turned into apodcast with two AI generated
hosts.
I decided to try this out withthe book.
I uploaded the book's PDFcontaining 74,000 words and
(01:49):
pushed the button to make apodcast.
I did nothing else.
Five minutes later, what youhear next is what was produced
verbatim.
I've not edited the 12-minuteAI-generated podcast in any way,
so, mind blown, let's listen tothe deep dive on Digitally
Curious.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Hey everyone and welcome back.
We're diving deep this time onthe deep dive, really getting
into Andrew Grill's DigitallyCurious.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, and we've got a ton to unpack.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We do Excerpts from the book, some related articles,
even podcast appearances.
Really amazing stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
A real treasure trove , exactly.
So we're going to dig into whathe really means by this whole
(02:47):
digital curiosity thing, why itshould matter an ivory tower.
This is a guy who wrote hisfirst program at six years old
Wow, six years old.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I was like playing with dolls at six.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
He's been on the front lines of technology for
over three decades, leadingteams at IBM, living and
breathing the changes most of usjust read about.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Right, it's like his journey as the evolution of tech
.
Yeah, and he's adamant thatdigital curiosity isn't just
about having the latest phone orknowing how to code, it's a
mindset, right.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And girl says you can like kickstart yours by picking
one new technology every weekand just diving in.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Read about it, play with it, see how it works.
It's about being proactive, aseeker of knowledge, not just a
passive consumer of it.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, there's a real reason why.
It points to research showingthat businesses led by digitally
curious people are wellseriously outperforming everyone
else they're not just keepingup.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It sounds like they're gaining a real edge.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He even has this concept.
He calls it the Starbucks test.
Have you ever noticed howyou'll be like overhearing
people at a coffee shop andsuddenly everyone's talking
about some new tech?
That's your cue, grill says.
That means that tech is aboutto hit the mainstream.
So if you're already in theknow, you're already ahead of
the game.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's about spotting the next big thing before it's
everywhere, understanding itspotential impact and being ready
to adapt and even like,capitalize on it before anyone
else.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And speaking of the next big thing, we have to talk
about chat, gpt, oh, yeah.
Grill says that when itexploded onto the scene in 2022,
it was a wake up call foreveryone, even like tech
veterans like himself.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Suddenly, AI wasn't some far off concept.
Concept, it was here and it waschanging everything.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And Grill doesn't just jump on the AI bandwagon,
he takes us all the way back tothe beginning.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
He traces AI from Alan Turing's mind-blowing
question can machines think?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's a big one.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
All the way to the latest breakthroughs in deep
learning.
It's a fascinating journey thatgives us the context to really
understand where AI is going.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I love that he emphasizes that AI isn't about
robots taking over the world,which, let's be honest, we've
all thought about at some point,right.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Of course, but Grill stresses that it's about
understanding both the strengthsand delimitations of this
technology, being able toseparate the hype from the
reality.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So how do we go from AI being this big, mysterious
thing to actually using it inour everyday work lives?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, grill really emphasizes the need for a
strategic approach.
Okay, yeah, he says it's notabout finding some magic AI
button to fix everything Right,but rather like identifying
specific tasks or processeswhere AI can really add value.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
OK, so start small.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Exactly Experiment, see what works.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, he also says something that I think is so
important Don't underestimatechange management.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Bringing in any new technology can be disruptive.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But especially something like AI right.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It's true, people can be resistant to change,
especially if they feel liketheir jobs are on the line.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Grill says it's about bringing everyone on board,
getting them comfortable withthe technology, giving them the
training and support they needto succeed in this new landscape
.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I love how he gives readers those actionable steps.
He calls it the Curious FiveChallenge.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And encourages listeners to engage with AI
directly.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, get your hands dirty.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That could be anything from like testing out
an AI writing tool to actuallyexploring AI use cases in their
own industries.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's about making AI less abstract and more tangible,
yeah, showing you how it can berelevant to your work and your
life.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
OK, so we've covered a ton of ground on AI we have,
but Grill doesn't stop there,right?
Nope, he argues that beingdigitally curious means
understanding the entire techlandscape.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And it's always evolving.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And a big part of that is, like the often
overlooked backbone of it allCloud computing.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
The backbone, absolutely, and he doesn't just
throw out jargon.
No, he's good at that.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
He really breaks down those different cloud models.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, public private hybrid.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And focuses on like one key difference with each one
yeah.
Like with the public cloud.
He says it's all aboutaffordability and scalability.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Makes sense.
Yeah, you only pay for what youuse.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And then he dives into security, which is
something everyone seems toworry about with the cloud right
.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, it comes up a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Grill argues that it's often more secure than
traditional on-premises systems,interesting Especially with all
the advanced security measuresthat cloud providers have in
place.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
They have whole teams dedicated to it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Right.
It's their bread and butter andto really bring it home.
He talks about Origo, a companythat's developing those.
What are they called?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yes, autonomous vehicles, and they're using
cloud services combined with a5G network to allow for remote
supervision of their vehicles.
This is fascinating.
It's a real-world example ofhow these technologies are
converging to create somethingtotally new.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It's amazing to see it in action.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Speaking of real-world impact, we have to
talk about the Internet ofThings.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh yeah, or as the cool kids call it, IOT.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
IOT Right Grill points out that IOT is already
deeply embedded in our lives.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Even if we don't always realize it.
It's everything from smarthomes and fitness trackers to
the smart refrigerators that canlike order groceries for you.
I know, I know my fridge ordersme more oat milk than I could
ever drink.
But on a serious note, Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Grill points out that the real power of IoT lies in
its potential across industries.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right, it's bigger than just our kitchens.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He talks about healthcare with remote patient
monitoring, retail with likepersonalized shopping experience
.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Oh yeah, those targeted ads are getting scary.
Good, I know.
Like, how do they know I neededthat?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Even manufacturing, with real time data analysis to
optimize production.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's revolutionizing so many fields.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And, of course, we can't talk about interconnected
devices without mentioning 5G.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
It's the glue that holds it all together mentioning
5G.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's the glue that holds it all together.
Grill takes the time to explain5G in a way that even like your
tech challenged uncle couldunderstand.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
That's a high bar.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He walks us through each generation of mobile
technology, like clearly layingout what makes 5G different.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It's about time someone did.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He also clears up some confusion around those
standalone and non-standalone 5Gnetworks which I think a lot of
us, myself included, find a bitconfusing.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He really breaks it down and makes it crystal clear.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I like that.
No jargon.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
He doesn't shy away from the challenges either, like
the need for a lot moreinfrastructure if we want to
unleash the full potential of 5G.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We need those cell towers.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And the security concerns that come with having,
like billions of devicesconnected to the internet.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, security is always a moving target.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Right.
But he's also really optimisticabout the possibilities like
using 5G to power smart cities.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Imagine that.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Create truly immersive entertainment
experiences.
Oh man, Even enable remotesurgery.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
The possibilities are mind boggling.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's about looking beyond the hype to see the real
world applications andunderstanding how those
applications impact our dailylives, but it sounds like Grill
is all about prepping us forwhat's next thought this was
(10:06):
something straight out of StarTrek, until I really dug into it
.
Yeah, it does sound a bit likescience fiction.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It does.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But Grill actually makes it surprisingly accessible
.
Okay, even if you don't have,you know, a physics degree.
He explains how these quantumcomputers use things called
crebits, which can be both azero and a one at the same time.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Wait what?
How is that even possible?
It's quantum mechanics.
It's like they operate onanother level entirely, which
lets them tackle problems thatwould take traditional computers
well, basically forever.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So much faster.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Exponentially faster.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
He uses this really interesting example of
fertilizer production.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Oh yeah, it's not something like most of us think
about every day, not exactly aglamorous topic, I know right,
but it's actually a hugelyenergy intensive process.
Oh, wow.
And Grill says that quantumcomputers could be the key to
designing, like way moreefficient enzymes for this
process.
Okay, making a real impact on,you know, energy consumption in
(11:05):
the environment.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
That's amazing.
So it's not just about, likemaking computers faster, it's
about solving real worldproblems.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Exactly, and that's just you know.
One example Drug discovery,material science, financial
modeling, quantum computingcould completely revolutionize
all of them.
It's a lot to take in, it is,it is, and you know, grill
doesn't shy away from thepotential downsides either.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Because there always are some Right, always.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
He talks about something called Q-Day, which
you know sounds a little ominous, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It does what is?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Q-Day.
It's this idea that quantumcomputers will get so powerful
that they could actually crackthe encryption that protects,
well, basically everythingonline.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Everything Our bank accounts, our email, like
everything.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Pretty much yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's a scary thought.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It is, and Grill is very upfront about this threat,
you know, encouraging everyoneto start thinking about
quantum-resistant encryption now, but he also reassures us that
Q-Day is still a while away,maybe a decade or more.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Okay, so their eye is time to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
There is, it's not an immediate crisis.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's a relief.
So, as always with likeemerging tech, it's about being
aware of both the amazingpossibilities and, you know, the
potential downsides.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Right.
And speaking of possibilities,Grill doesn't just stop at
quantum computing.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
No.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
He takes us even further into the future with
this idea of, well, the linesbetween the digital and physical
worlds, you know, blurringcompletely.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
OK, now, this is where it gets really sci-fi.
What does that even look like?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, he paints this really vivid picture of a world
with things like digital pillsthat can, like, perform full
body scans from the inside.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
What.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Smart watches that can predict health problems
before you even have symptoms.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
No way.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Even information beamed directly to our retinas.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay, that's a little freaky, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It sounds both incredible and a little
unnerving.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, yeah, like are we ready to live in a world
where technology is thatintegrated into our lives?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
That's exactly the question Grill leaves us with.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
He does like to make us think, doesn't he?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
He does.
Are we going to just be sweptalong by these technological
waves or are we going toactively participate in shaping
this future?
It's a powerful challenge.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It is, and it kind of brings us back to that core
idea of digital curiosity,doesn't it?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Absolutely.
It's not just about, you know,staying ahead of the curve or
impressing your friends withyour knowledge of the latest
gadgets.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
It's about understanding how these
technologies are going to impactour lives, our work, our
societies even, and using thatunderstanding to make informed
choices about the future that wewant to create.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's like Gorilla saying look, the future is being
written right now and you havea chance to grab the pen and,
like add your own chapter.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's exciting, it's daunting and, honestly, it's a
little bit terrifying.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Well, at the same time.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But it's up to us to decide what role we want to play
.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And that's the beauty of it, right.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It is.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It's about embracing that constant learning, that
drive to understand, thatwillingness to engage with the
unknown.
It's what makes this wholejourney so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Absolutely so.
Go out there, get curious andlet's shape this future together
.
That's our deep dive for today.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So what did you think ?
I don't think this willimmediately replace podcast or
podcast host.
However, it may be a new way topresent written information.
We all have different learningstyles, and so perhaps this
would help people learn whoprefer to listen instead of
reading content.
I look forward to your thoughtson this and also the content
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from my AI host about the book.
If you'd like to pick up a copyof the book, head to
curiousclick forward.
Slash order and, as always, Iencourage you to stay curious.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thank you for listening to Digitally Curious.
You can find all of ourprevious shows at
digitallycuriousai.
Until next time, we invite youto stay digitally curious.
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