May 31, 2023 • 37 mins
This week on Disrupting Burnout, I’m joined by Tonya Bailey Jones, a Woman Who Defines Disruption by helping women find a life of beauty beyond shame.
Tonya Bailey Jones is a wife, mother, grand-mother, coach, transformational speaker and a retired Naval Officer. After years of trepidation, apprehension and self-discovery, Tonya turned decades of darkness, depression and despair into obedience and walking in God's calling for her life.
As the creator and host of "Beauty Beyond the Ashes Podcast with Tonya B. Jones", Tonya encourages women of faith to live beyond the guilt, shame and regret of their past choices and live in the fullness of who God created them to be.
03:00 - Tonya’s Story
09:30 - Finding The Courage to Overcome Shame
13:25 - UNMASK Yourself
21:15 - Go Back & Do The Work
29:45 - God Will Use Your Story
Beauty Beyond the Shame Takeaways
● “It was a mistake that I had made, but that mistake became me.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
● “Until I address the thing that is hurting me most, I wouldn't move to that next step.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
● “The emotion that separated us from God from the very beginning is shame.” - Dr. PBJ
● “The lie of the devil that keeps us separated from God.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
● “What my purpose is to help to disrupt the lie of the enemy.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
● “There is nothing you can do to separate yourself from the love of God.” - Dr. PBJ
● “You can not judge the 17 year old Tonya by your 50 year old knowledge.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
● “It might be hard but it’s going to be worth it.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
● “You have to go back and do the work where the injury happened.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
● “God is using the very thing that the devil meant to break me.” - Tonya Bailey Jones
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If you can put that in your mindwhat God said about you, and
meditate that and get that allinto your heart, then you can
really disruptHey friends, welcome to another
episode in our series calledwomen who define disruption.
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leave a comment and let us knowwhat you think. Listen today.
Today, today, I am introducingyou all to a powerhouse of a
woman. Listen, when I thinkabout her I think about a quiet
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storm. That's what I getyourself ready. Get yourself
ready. Tonya Bailey Jones is oneof my sisters. She is a retired
naval officer. She's a wife.
She's a mom. She's a grandmotherwith her fly sail. She's also a
transformational speaker. Shecreated her podcast beauty
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beyond the acids. She's the hostof her past. Listen, this is a
bad woman you hear me? But Oh,does she have a story to tell?
So I am so honored to introduceyou all to my sister. My friend,
Tonya Bailey Jones, welcome todisrupting burnout, Tonya,
oh, my goodness, thank you somuch. First of all that
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introduction. I have to try tolive up to that now.
You created that introduction.
You already live in that system.
Oh my god, I'm so happy to behere. And I'm honored that you
would allow me to take up spacewith your your audience.
I know you have a story. And youhave shared with me. We have
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walked together throughsomething. So the fact that
you're willing to share with ustoday. I definitely want I'm
honored. I'm honored. I willbefore we get started, I want to
give a trigger warning. Foranyone who has been through
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abortion or has experienced itin any way or been connected to
someone. I just wanted wantfolks to take care of
themselves. I want folks to takecare of themselves. But I want
you to tell your story sister inthe way that you always do. So
tell us who you are telling youBailey Jones.
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What are you you've spent such amouthful already. I am a retired
naval officer. I retired back in2015. And it was actually then
that I began to go on a searchto figure out who taught me
what, because I had lost myidentity. In the military, the
military defined me it. It gaveme purpose. And so when I
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retired, I felt who am I? Whatam I doing what's what's my
purpose? So I tried to do allkinds of stuff. I became the
pastor's assistant at my church.
I was in in school with DallasTheological Seminary because I
wanted to teach. Then I became areal estate agent. And then God
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began to poke me. Things thingsneeded to change. I found myself
just just struggling trying tofigure out what my purpose was
in life and sitting in bed onenight, with my husband fast
asleep at my side. And all ofthese thoughts were rolling
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through my head, what is yourpurpose? Why are you even here?
Like these worthless thoughts,and I'm crying in bed and I'm
looking at the hawk and it'sit's moving so quickly. I can
actually hear the tick of theclock even though the clock was
a digital clock. That's how loudmy thoughts were to me. And I
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reached over and awakened myhusband and he was wondering
what was wrong with me? Why wasI crying so much? What I
couldn't even speak and tell himwhat was going on. And it was in
that moment, I really thought Iwas losing my mind. I was having
a nervous breakdown simplybecause the thoughts that were
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in my head, and the lack ofpurpose in my life. Were just
overwhelming to me. And it wasthat night, I promised my
husband that I would seek help.
And you have always said that weneeded three things. community
counseling, andcold coaching. Yeah, yeah,
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counseling and coaching. And Ibegan with counseling. And one
of the things that my counselortold me is, we don't do
superficial, we go deep. And Iknew that I had to go deep, I
knew that there was somethingthere that was blocking me from
going to that next step. And asI began coaching, counseling, I
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started in coaching programsand, and you became my mindset
coach. And I knew that myabortion at 17 had totally
disrupted my life, it hadchanged who I was it it actually
began to define who I was, itwas a mistake I had made, but
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that mistake became me. And Ilooked at myself as the problem,
the bad thing. So I began towear a mask, I put on a mask,
and then being in the military,oh, I could wear that mask very
well. I became commander Bailey.
That's who I was. And I worethat masks very well. And as I
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was trying to get to who I was,you helped me to define things
in my life that had happened,and that it was okay to go back
and really address those things.
And that one thing that had beennagging me was my abortion at
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17. And from that abortion at17, I began to make so many
different choices that were notgood for me. I went on, even in
the military, I was a Christian.
I knew God. I loved God, Iwanted to walk his ways, but I
continued to make decisions thathurt me. And those decisions, I
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had another abortion. And Ithink I had a third one, my
memory is not there of it, Ijust have flashes of something
that makes me think I had that.
So here I am at the age of 50.
Having that partial nervousbreakdown in the bed, wondering,
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what is my life come to Why haveI made these decisions? Why?
What's going on? And God workedwith me through you and the
other ladies that were in ourgroup and with Patrice, and I
began to understand that, thatthe abortion really it really
tore me in a way from God that Icouldn't, I couldn't explain and
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until I addressed how I felt,there was always a block in
between God and me, no matterhow, how many classes I took,
how many Bible courses I was in,no, no matter how many women's
retreat I went to, until Iaddress the thing that was
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hurting me most. I wouldn't moveto that next step.
Oh, my gosh, okay, I just wantto let me step in here for a
minute. And first of all, justthank you. Thank you for sharing
your story, not just here, buton your podcast on stages. I've
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heard you, Tanya minister, towomen who wear this mask,
especially women in the church,we've got to act like we got it
all together. We've got to actlike we've never been through
anything, that we've never doneanything that our house is
perfect. Our family is perfect.
Our children are perfect. And Ihave heard you minister to say
that we are loved. And we aresignificant, regardless of what
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we have been through. So thankyou for allowing your story to
give us permission to tell ourstory. I also want to talk a
little bit about the shame thatyou mentioned and that you have
described. I noticed somethingthe other day that I've never
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seen before Tanya I was I wasreading I think it's in Genesis
three right where Adam and Evehad bitten the fruit. And you
know, they recognized that theywere naked and they made
coverings for themselves andthey started hiding. And in this
particular translation of theBible is said they felt shame.
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And it hit me like a ton ofbricks in that moment, because I
never put it together that thefirst negative emotion. That man
Phil was saying, Wow, I neversaw it that way before. I don't
know if I've read that verse inthat translation before. But I
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didn't. I think it was newliving, I could be wrong. But it
specifically said, they feltshame. me like, wow, the emotion
that separated us from God, fromthe very beginning, is saying,
yes. And this, and I want to saythis to any woman who has
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experienced abortion or whateveryou've been through, keep
listening. And I want you tohear because you are not
condemned here. You aresupported here. You are loved
here. But I want you to alsoknow that the emotions that we
feel, from the trauma that wehave been through those emotions
can separate us from God.
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Because you described how whatyou've been what you went
through, started to define you,and you lost who you were,
because you begin to identifyyourself by your trauma. That's
right. But then that that rockbottom that you hit that moment,
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in your mental health in yoursoul, that soul breaking moment
that you hit, it caused you tomake the decision to face those
emotions. Yes. And that's not aneasy thing to do, Tanya. So
where did you find the courageto face those emotions.
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Finding the courage was in in mycommunity, my community came
around me. And I remember oneday, you must have felt
something in me because youstopped the entire class and you
pray for me. You prayed for me.
And it was those moments thatgave me the courage. And I'm so
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glad you brought up about Adamand Eve, and how Shane was that
first emotion, because it's,it's the lie of the devil. It is
the lie of the devil that keepsus separated from God. And I
love that you talk aboutdisruption. Because what I do,
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and what my purpose is, is tohelp to disrupt the lie of the
enemy. to women, especiallywomen of faith, as you describe,
who allow the devil to keep themin this shackled to the shame of
of mistakes they've made in thepast, which you can't be all God
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called you to be if you'rebelieving the devil's of the
lie, and living shackled toshame. And he will keep you
there, he will isolate you, hewill continue to pump these lies
into your mind. So until youbring yourself if you need
counseling, get it, bringyourself into community and have
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someone coach you through theseemotions. And one of the things
that I do is a method calledunmask and that's removing all
this stuff. In each eachcategory un ma s k has something
that you do. And I'm going totell you about the first to the
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U is to untangle all these weedsthat we have in our head. And
that's where we're disruptingwe're going to disrupt what the
devil has told us we're going todisrupt and remove all of these
lies, we have to separate thefacts and our feelings from the
feelings that we've we hadduring that mistake and mine was
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that I couldn't be all that Icould be. If I had a child at
that age. Mine was there. My momwouldn't love me anymore if I
had a baby at 17. So I did Imade the choice because I
believe the lies of Satan, Iwasn't able to disrupt those
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lies. So now it's my job to goback and untangle those lies to
take the truth and want on oneside and those lies on the
other. Then we have to defineshame from guilt. Okay. Guilt
means that I feel bad about whatI did. When that guilt gets out
of control. Then we have shame.
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We live in shame that saying Iam what I did. Not that I made a
bad choice. No, I am a badchoice. That's we have to
untangle all of that. And thenfor the end, we have to narrate
your story and tell your truth.
This is again disrupting thelies. Because if we tell our own
truth, tell our ourselves thetruth, then we can begin to
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disrupt with it what Satan hadus believing and walk into what
God has said for us. So I madethe choice of abortion, I have
to, I have to live up to thechoice that I made, and accept
that truth. Sit in that truth,that's not easy to do by
yourself, is not easy to do byyourself. And that's why
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coaching and community are soimportant. And if like me, you
had some depression, you hadsome anxiety, you're going to
need some counseling in that aswell. But when you can take all
of this, and put it together,oh, how you can disrupt the
lives of Satan. You can do whatyou can, you can understand who
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you are in God. And in the Met,the unmask the human, the end,
we talked about that. But thatem, meditate on God's word.
That's where your truth is.
That's where the enemy cannot.
If you can put that in your mindwhat God said about you, and
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meditate that and get that allinto your heart, then you can
really disrupt disruption willhappen.
Yes. Listen, I know, it's been awhile since I came to you in
this way. But I got something toshare with you, you all know
that I'm in the process ofwriting this book. And as I'm
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doing this, there are strategiesand ideas and, and thoughts that
are coming to me that I've neverhad, and I'm so full, I can't
wait to get it to you. And thebook is coming this year. But I
can't wait until then I'm seeingthe evidence in my life. And in
the lives of folks that I'mcoaching one on one. And God has
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laid it on my heart to createsomething for folks who may be
interested in one on onecoaching, but you can't afford
it. It doesn't fit into yourbudget. Or maybe you're curious
about coaching, but you've neverhad that experience before. This
is for folks who feel likeyou're marching in place. Like
you're putting in all theeffort, but you're not moving
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forward, you feel buried, andyou're ready to move into
brilliance, I'm ready to shareout. I've got some strategies,
I've got some things to workthrough with you. Listen,
friends, this is not going to befancy. There's no fancy sales
page. There's no courseplatform, this is going to be us
meeting once a month throughzoom, for me to pour out to you
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what I have and to support youin your journey. That's it.
That's it. This is 40, not 40.
This is 3030 bucks a month. Andthere has to be some kind of
investment. Or I've learned thatpeople don't show up, right. But
at that level, you deserve $30 amonth, you can find $30 A month.
So if you have wanted to workwith me, but just couldn't find
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it in your budget. If you'vebeen curious about coaching and
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a friend, you ain't seen thisyet. You haven't seen this yet.
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And I'm ready to share with youand I'm ready to support you.
Okay, so listen, if you'reinterested, join with the link
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Nothing fancy, but let's justget it done. It's time for you
to live in brilliance. You needto know what it means to show up
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in practice every day. And I'mready to help you. All right. I
can't wait to hear from you. AndI'm excited to serve you. I'll
see you soon. Bye ahso let's talk about just for a
moment, the lies because I wantwhoever is listening, and maybe
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your story is not abortion,maybe you've been through
something else. Maybe you'vedone something else or maybe
you've been traumatized in someway. Here's the truth. You are
loved. Absolutely. blank,period. End of story. You are
loved. There is nothing that youcan do to separate yourself from
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the love of God. Nothing,nothing. There's nothing. So I
just need to declare that andhave somebody here that garlis
of your own thoughts the enemystarts what others have said to
you or about you. You are loved.
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That's One of the reasons why inevery podcast, you are powerful,
you are significant, and you areloved. And that may sound
strange to some people. But whywould you say you love somebody
you've never met because I do.
And because I know your heavenlyFather loves you. And we don't
hear it often enough. So I wantyou to know that you are
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powerful, you're significant,and you are loved. And you can
turn your pain into purpose,telling you the other thing that
I want to honor you for. Sobecause you just told us, okay,
you are a grown woman, with thewhole family, married, retired,
have done wonderful things inyour life. And you made the
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decision to go back and love on17 year old telling you can we
talk about that for a minute,because there are women who have
passed that phase of life havepassed that season of life, and
they are moving on, and peoplearound them might not even know,
people might not even know whatthey've been through, maybe they
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went through it alone, that isover and may have pushed it into
the past, wipe my hands that I'mdone. What made you go back and
love on 17 year old.
I'm gonna tell you what mycounselor told me. He told me
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you cannot judge the 17 year oldTanya, by your 50 year old
knowledge. When he said that Irejected that. I didn't hear
that. I didn't. Because of whereI was, I had to grow into
understanding that thought. AndI know you talk a lot about hard
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work. My first two podcasts arecalled Hard work is hard work.
Part One and Part Two. That's Ihave to make a two part on that.
Because it is hard work. Butit's so worth it. And being able
to, to go back is a decision. Itis it is a decision. That's not
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an easy decision to make. Butbeing in community, being in
prayer, and having theunderstanding that it might be
hard, but it's going to be worthit in this person is going to
hold my hand through it. I cando it. And that's how I felt.
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That's when he told me that. AndI came to you guys. In the
beginning I only told you guysabout one abortion. So shame. I
was so I was trying to get overthe fat and say the word
abortion. And except that thiswas my plight, this was the
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thing that I had to fight now.
Right? So I had to go back andthink about what was going on at
the time. And when my counselorsaying we don't do superficial
work, this is what he meant. Youhave to go back and do do that
work where the injury happened.
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The injury happened when I was17 years old. And 33 years
later, I was doing it was amonth but it was September 2020.
And I was turning 50 in October2012. And in where I was what I
was feeling, I wanted to feelwhen people would say, Oh, God
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spoke to me and who got this Iwas to meet him that way. Why
can't I feel him? I want to feelhim lightning is not just saying
that all this time God wasn'tusing me because he was is not
to say God was with me becausehe was. But in that moment, I
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knew that I didn't havesomething with God. And I wanted
it so badly. I was willing to gothrough anything to get that
connection. And it was a shame.
It was a shame that I allowed totell myself that you're not
worried. You're not loved thatyou're not lovable. And I want
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the audience to know this is notan audible thing you say to
yourself, you don't sit and say,Oh, I'm unlovable. Oh, no, it's
a feeling that it's the lies atthe enemy that goes into your
head and then meditates downinto your heart. The same way in
order to disrupt those thoughts.
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You have to say, the truth ofGod and when had meditated to
your heart. Oh, that'sgood. That's good. You just gave
us a tool, you just gave us atool. Because what you taught us
is, what we meditate on iswhat's going to manifest. So if
I continue, and the wordmeditate literally means to roll
around in your mind, or tomutter, to say it over and over
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and over. So whatever I say, I'mgoing to have the thing that I
say over and over and over, andif I say, I'm not significant,
if I say I'm not good enough, ifI say I'm bad, then that is
what's going to be in my heart.
That's what I'm going tobelieve. And that is what's
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going to manifest in my action.
But if I begin, that's why wedon't just read the Word of God.
That's why we don't just listento a sermon, but you have to say
it, you have to meditate, youhave to mutter it, you need to
say it, because whatever yousay, over and over, it
transports from your head toyour heart. And once it gets in
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your heart, it's going tomanifest in your hands, it's
going to manifest in yourbehavior. You reminded me of
something I heard, Pastor DariusDaniels recently preaching, and
he was talking about how when hewas a young man, he I think it
was his father, he and his dadwere playing basketball. And his
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father jammed his finger, didn'tgo get medical attention, just
okay, no big deal, whatever. Sonow, his father has a bent
finger. And he went recently tosee if there was anything to be
done with it. And the doctorsaid, I can fix it, but I have
to break it. I can fix it. But Ihave to break it. If he had gone
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to get attention to the injury,when it happened, then he would
not be in the bent state today.
But because he did not getattention to the injury when it
happened. It created a bentstate. And so many of us are
operating. We're working. We'reserving, we're ministering.
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We're getting married. We'rehaving children. We're doing all
the things, but we're in a badstate. That was me. Yes, ma'am.
We're in a bit state and whatyou did what 50 year old Tonya
decided to do for 17 year oldTonya is even though it might
break me, I'm gonna go back andhe'll go, I'm gonna have to
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revisit this injury that haslong healed, but healed and
correctly. That has a scar. Whatlet me rephrase. It has a scar,
but it didn't heal. Yeah, it hasa scar, just because it has a
scar doesn't mean it's healed.
So I'm gonna have to go back andallow somebody to dig around in
that painful place. Physically,that's your surgeon, but
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psychologically, that's yourcounselor. You see what I'm
saying? And let me just saythis, this is not work that you
do alone. No, hear us. Know,hear us. This is not the kind of
work that you do alone. This isnot the kind of work that you
let the wrong people do for youor with you. You need people who
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are equipped. And I'm not justtalking about your pastor, I'm
talking about the Word of God.
But I'm also talking aboutcounseling therapists, you need
people who are experiencedskilled and equipped to walk you
through this type of healingjourney. So please be wise.
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Please be wise. But I had toidentify that Tonya because you
could have kept going and peoplearound you may not have known
but your soul knew your soulyour mind your wheeling your
emotions, your soul knew. That'swhat that breaking was. That
long night was that's what thatI feel like I'm losing my mind
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was your soul saying, Hey, weare injured, and this has never
healed. This has never healed.
So talk to me, Tonya about nowthat you have and continue to do
the work. Yes, because I knowyou do you share that with me.
You continue to do the work. Sonow that you are on your healing
journey. How has God used yourjourney to allow you to bless
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other women?
Oh my god. Dr. PDGA. I amastonished at how God has used
me that long Anything that I hadthat people would talk about,
like hearing from God and, anddiscernment from God, and he
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shows me like daily, how, justsaying yes to Him surrendering
to Him, and allowing him to useme in the, in the place that
hurt me the most is what he'susing in the world as my
purpose. And I will tell you mymain why I use I use this young
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lady, she was at my firstkeynote speech, she came to it,
and she was pregnant at thetime. This sweet young lady came
to a center that I work at, it'sa pregnancy center. And she This
was her third child, and she wascontemplating abortion. And when
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when we're in that moment, we'reconfused. We're scared. We're
listening to the last Satan ashe's going to do. So we think
the best thing is to have anabortion. I was able to be
there, they called me, I camein, and I sat with her, I took
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her out to the lake for twohours. And we just sat and we
talked. And I shared my storywith her. I shared how I felt a
share what decisions I wish hadI had made. And I also shared
the truth of my situation. Ithought I couldn't do it, but I
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could have, I thought my parentswill be disappointed, but they
will be okay. And that was herbig thing. My mom is going to
disown me, my family has alreadysaid if I bring another baby,
they're not going to you know,do this or they're not going to
do that. I'm so excited to saythat my soon to be God's son,
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she has asked me to be the Godparent of her son is one month.
Anytime that I doubt that, whatGod has brought me through all
the pain all the way back from17. Anytime I doubted, I look at
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that. I'm looking at just thatone thing, because he's shown me
many things. I've had manypeople call me and say different
things. One, a very close friendof mine who was at my keynote, I
didn't know she had an abortionbefore. But she told me she and
her husband had had an abortion.
And they never talked about it.
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Since that night, after sheheard my keynote, she went home
and her husband and her had aconversation about that for the
very first time. For the veryfirst time in 12 years, telling
me that's not healing in amarriage. Just those things,
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just let me know that God isusing the very thing that the
devil meant to break me. Thiswas building me up and God's
kingdom because he can use usfolly, when we come out of
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hiding when we remove the mask,and we do the work to uncover
and disrupt the lies of Satan.
Oh my goodness. Tanya, I'm sograteful for you. And I'm so
grateful for the way you turnyour pain into purpose. And that
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you are allowing other womeninto your journey and supporting
them through this. Yes, Icelebrate you. Thank you.
Oh, honor, and praise to God.
And I thank him for bringing youinto my life. I do because it
was it was a mindset work. Itwas it was what I was telling
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myself the fear and you helpedme to disrupt the field.
Is My honor is my honor is myhonor to work with you to love
you. to journey with you. It ismy honor.
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Such God work is in that's whatit is like you help me then I
help the next person, the nextperson. That's how God works.
That's how his kingdom works.
That'sexactly yes. I know that there
are people who need to hearmore. I know recently on your
podcast, you told your wholestory. So please let people know
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how can they hear more from you?
How can they connect with you?
How can they work with youplease let them Oh,
well I have my podcast, ofcourse is beauty beyond the
ashes with Tanya V. Jones, andit's on all of the listening
platforms. If you're not surewhere to find that, I use
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Buzzsprout. So you will be ableto go to Buzzsprout and find
that. My website is Tanya Bjones.com. I have my program on
there. I have my story on there.
I have my contact information onthere. Facebook, Tonya Bailey
Jones, and Instagram is blessed.
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The number one, underscore t twow yes for Titus two woman,
because that's what I'm herefor. Help the last one.
I love it. I love it. We willhave all of Tonya's information
in the show notes. So make sureyou scroll down and get all of
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that information. Follow herlisten to the podcast, reach
out. If you are on your ownhealing journey, reach out. And
we were unmasking you and comeon reveal your true beauty and
God. Absolutely. Oh, I'm soproud of you. I love it.
I love you.
I love you. Listen, friends,thank you for sharing with us.
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Thank you for listening. Sharethis with somebody who needs to
hear it. Somebody needs to knowthat they're loved. Somebody
needs to know that the shame isa lie. And they are powerful,
and there's purpose in theirpain. So you'll be sure to share
this. And as always, Tonya and Iwant you to know that you are
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powerful. You are significant.
And you are loved. Love alwaysPBJ See y'all later
If you can put that in your mindwhat God said about you, and
meditate that and get that allinto your heart, then you can
really disruptHey friends, welcome to another
episode in our series calledwomen who define disruption.
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the comments. You need to leavea review something to let me
know that these stories areblessing your life. I know they
are. I know. These women are ablessing. But I want to hear
from you. I want these women tohear from you. I want other
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listeners to hear from you ofhow these episodes are impacting
your life. So you be sure toshare this episode, but also
leave a comment and let us knowwhat you think. Listen today.
Today, today, I am introducingyou all to a powerhouse of a
woman. Listen, when I thinkabout her I think about a quiet
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storm. That's what I getyourself ready. Get yourself
ready. Tonya Bailey Jones is oneof my sisters. She is a retired
naval officer. She's a wife.
She's a mom. She's a grandmotherwith her fly sail. She's also a
transformational speaker. Shecreated her podcast beauty
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beyond the acids. She's the hostof her past. Listen, this is a
bad woman you hear me? But Oh,does she have a story to tell?
So I am so honored to introduceyou all to my sister. My friend,
Tonya Bailey Jones, welcome todisrupting burnout, Tonya,
oh, my goodness, thank you somuch. First of all that
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introduction. I have to try tolive up to that now.
You created that introduction.
You already live in that system.
Oh my god, I'm so happy to behere. And I'm honored that you
would allow me to take up spacewith your your audience.
I know you have a story. And youhave shared with me. We have
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walked together throughsomething. So the fact that
you're willing to share with ustoday. I definitely want I'm
honored. I'm honored. I willbefore we get started, I want to
give a trigger warning. Foranyone who has been through
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abortion or has experienced itin any way or been connected to
someone. I just wanted wantfolks to take care of
themselves. I want folks to takecare of themselves. But I want
you to tell your story sister inthe way that you always do. So
tell us who you are telling youBailey Jones.
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What are you you've spent such amouthful already. I am a retired
naval officer. I retired back in2015. And it was actually then
that I began to go on a searchto figure out who taught me
what, because I had lost myidentity. In the military, the
military defined me it. It gaveme purpose. And so when I
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retired, I felt who am I? Whatam I doing what's what's my
purpose? So I tried to do allkinds of stuff. I became the
pastor's assistant at my church.
I was in in school with DallasTheological Seminary because I
wanted to teach. Then I became areal estate agent. And then God
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began to poke me. Things thingsneeded to change. I found myself
just just struggling trying tofigure out what my purpose was
in life and sitting in bed onenight, with my husband fast
asleep at my side. And all ofthese thoughts were rolling
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through my head, what is yourpurpose? Why are you even here?
Like these worthless thoughts,and I'm crying in bed and I'm
looking at the hawk and it'sit's moving so quickly. I can
actually hear the tick of theclock even though the clock was
a digital clock. That's how loudmy thoughts were to me. And I
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reached over and awakened myhusband and he was wondering
what was wrong with me? Why wasI crying so much? What I
couldn't even speak and tell himwhat was going on. And it was in
that moment, I really thought Iwas losing my mind. I was having
a nervous breakdown simplybecause the thoughts that were
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in my head, and the lack ofpurpose in my life. Were just
overwhelming to me. And it wasthat night, I promised my
husband that I would seek help.
And you have always said that weneeded three things. community
counseling, andcold coaching. Yeah, yeah,
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counseling and coaching. And Ibegan with counseling. And one
of the things that my counselortold me is, we don't do
superficial, we go deep. And Iknew that I had to go deep, I
knew that there was somethingthere that was blocking me from
going to that next step. And asI began coaching, counseling, I
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started in coaching programsand, and you became my mindset
coach. And I knew that myabortion at 17 had totally
disrupted my life, it hadchanged who I was it it actually
began to define who I was, itwas a mistake I had made, but
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that mistake became me. And Ilooked at myself as the problem,
the bad thing. So I began towear a mask, I put on a mask,
and then being in the military,oh, I could wear that mask very
well. I became commander Bailey.
That's who I was. And I worethat masks very well. And as I
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was trying to get to who I was,you helped me to define things
in my life that had happened,and that it was okay to go back
and really address those things.
And that one thing that had beennagging me was my abortion at
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17. And from that abortion at17, I began to make so many
different choices that were notgood for me. I went on, even in
the military, I was a Christian.
I knew God. I loved God, Iwanted to walk his ways, but I
continued to make decisions thathurt me. And those decisions, I
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had another abortion. And Ithink I had a third one, my
memory is not there of it, Ijust have flashes of something
that makes me think I had that.
So here I am at the age of 50.
Having that partial nervousbreakdown in the bed, wondering,
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what is my life come to Why haveI made these decisions? Why?
What's going on? And God workedwith me through you and the
other ladies that were in ourgroup and with Patrice, and I
began to understand that, thatthe abortion really it really
tore me in a way from God that Icouldn't, I couldn't explain and
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until I addressed how I felt,there was always a block in
between God and me, no matterhow, how many classes I took,
how many Bible courses I was in,no, no matter how many women's
retreat I went to, until Iaddress the thing that was
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hurting me most. I wouldn't moveto that next step.
Oh, my gosh, okay, I just wantto let me step in here for a
minute. And first of all, justthank you. Thank you for sharing
your story, not just here, buton your podcast on stages. I've
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heard you, Tanya minister, towomen who wear this mask,
especially women in the church,we've got to act like we got it
all together. We've got to actlike we've never been through
anything, that we've never doneanything that our house is
perfect. Our family is perfect.
Our children are perfect. And Ihave heard you minister to say
that we are loved. And we aresignificant, regardless of what
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we have been through. So thankyou for allowing your story to
give us permission to tell ourstory. I also want to talk a
little bit about the shame thatyou mentioned and that you have
described. I noticed somethingthe other day that I've never
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seen before Tanya I was I wasreading I think it's in Genesis
three right where Adam and Evehad bitten the fruit. And you
know, they recognized that theywere naked and they made
coverings for themselves andthey started hiding. And in this
particular translation of theBible is said they felt shame.
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And it hit me like a ton ofbricks in that moment, because I
never put it together that thefirst negative emotion. That man
Phil was saying, Wow, I neversaw it that way before. I don't
know if I've read that verse inthat translation before. But I
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didn't. I think it was newliving, I could be wrong. But it
specifically said, they feltshame. me like, wow, the emotion
that separated us from God, fromthe very beginning, is saying,
yes. And this, and I want to saythis to any woman who has
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experienced abortion or whateveryou've been through, keep
listening. And I want you tohear because you are not
condemned here. You aresupported here. You are loved
here. But I want you to alsoknow that the emotions that we
feel, from the trauma that wehave been through those emotions
can separate us from God.
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Because you described how whatyou've been what you went
through, started to define you,and you lost who you were,
because you begin to identifyyourself by your trauma. That's
right. But then that that rockbottom that you hit that moment,
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in your mental health in yoursoul, that soul breaking moment
that you hit, it caused you tomake the decision to face those
emotions. Yes. And that's not aneasy thing to do, Tanya. So
where did you find the courageto face those emotions.
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Finding the courage was in in mycommunity, my community came
around me. And I remember oneday, you must have felt
something in me because youstopped the entire class and you
pray for me. You prayed for me.
And it was those moments thatgave me the courage. And I'm so
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glad you brought up about Adamand Eve, and how Shane was that
first emotion, because it's,it's the lie of the devil. It is
the lie of the devil that keepsus separated from God. And I
love that you talk aboutdisruption. Because what I do,
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and what my purpose is, is tohelp to disrupt the lie of the
enemy. to women, especiallywomen of faith, as you describe,
who allow the devil to keep themin this shackled to the shame of
of mistakes they've made in thepast, which you can't be all God
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called you to be if you'rebelieving the devil's of the
lie, and living shackled toshame. And he will keep you
there, he will isolate you, hewill continue to pump these lies
into your mind. So until youbring yourself if you need
counseling, get it, bringyourself into community and have
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someone coach you through theseemotions. And one of the things
that I do is a method calledunmask and that's removing all
this stuff. In each eachcategory un ma s k has something
that you do. And I'm going totell you about the first to the
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U is to untangle all these weedsthat we have in our head. And
that's where we're disruptingwe're going to disrupt what the
devil has told us we're going todisrupt and remove all of these
lies, we have to separate thefacts and our feelings from the
feelings that we've we hadduring that mistake and mine was
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that I couldn't be all that Icould be. If I had a child at
that age. Mine was there. My momwouldn't love me anymore if I
had a baby at 17. So I did Imade the choice because I
believe the lies of Satan, Iwasn't able to disrupt those
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lies. So now it's my job to goback and untangle those lies to
take the truth and want on oneside and those lies on the
other. Then we have to defineshame from guilt. Okay. Guilt
means that I feel bad about whatI did. When that guilt gets out
of control. Then we have shame.
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We live in shame that saying Iam what I did. Not that I made a
bad choice. No, I am a badchoice. That's we have to
untangle all of that. And thenfor the end, we have to narrate
your story and tell your truth.
This is again disrupting thelies. Because if we tell our own
truth, tell our ourselves thetruth, then we can begin to
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disrupt with it what Satan hadus believing and walk into what
God has said for us. So I madethe choice of abortion, I have
to, I have to live up to thechoice that I made, and accept
that truth. Sit in that truth,that's not easy to do by
yourself, is not easy to do byyourself. And that's why
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coaching and community are soimportant. And if like me, you
had some depression, you hadsome anxiety, you're going to
need some counseling in that aswell. But when you can take all
of this, and put it together,oh, how you can disrupt the
lives of Satan. You can do whatyou can, you can understand who
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you are in God. And in the Met,the unmask the human, the end,
we talked about that. But thatem, meditate on God's word.
That's where your truth is.
That's where the enemy cannot.
If you can put that in your mindwhat God said about you, and
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meditate that and get that allinto your heart, then you can
really disrupt disruption willhappen.
Yes. Listen, I know, it's been awhile since I came to you in
this way. But I got something toshare with you, you all know
that I'm in the process ofwriting this book. And as I'm
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doing this, there are strategiesand ideas and, and thoughts that
are coming to me that I've neverhad, and I'm so full, I can't
wait to get it to you. And thebook is coming this year. But I
can't wait until then I'm seeingthe evidence in my life. And in
the lives of folks that I'mcoaching one on one. And God has
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laid it on my heart to createsomething for folks who may be
interested in one on onecoaching, but you can't afford
it. It doesn't fit into yourbudget. Or maybe you're curious
about coaching, but you've neverhad that experience before. This
is for folks who feel likeyou're marching in place. Like
you're putting in all theeffort, but you're not moving
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forward, you feel buried, andyou're ready to move into
brilliance, I'm ready to shareout. I've got some strategies,
I've got some things to workthrough with you. Listen,
friends, this is not going to befancy. There's no fancy sales
page. There's no courseplatform, this is going to be us
meeting once a month throughzoom, for me to pour out to you
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what I have and to support youin your journey. That's it.
That's it. This is 40, not 40.
This is 3030 bucks a month. Andthere has to be some kind of
investment. Or I've learned thatpeople don't show up, right. But
at that level, you deserve $30 amonth, you can find $30 A month.
So if you have wanted to workwith me, but just couldn't find
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it in your budget. If you'vebeen curious about coaching and
just not sure if it was a goodfit for you jump in on the
HEartwork Academy 2023 I have aneven if we work together before
a friend, you ain't seen thisyet. You haven't seen this yet.
I am so ready. I'm so thankful.
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And I'm ready to share with youand I'm ready to support you.
Okay, so listen, if you'reinterested, join with the link
here. Fill out the form, join usin the HEartwork Academy will
kick off in May. We'll meet oncea month on Zoom. And we're gonna
walk this thing out together.
Nothing fancy, but let's justget it done. It's time for you
to live in brilliance. You needto know what it means to show up
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in practice every day. And I'mready to help you. All right. I
can't wait to hear from you. AndI'm excited to serve you. I'll
see you soon. Bye ahso let's talk about just for a
moment, the lies because I wantwhoever is listening, and maybe
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your story is not abortion,maybe you've been through
something else. Maybe you'vedone something else or maybe
you've been traumatized in someway. Here's the truth. You are
loved. Absolutely. blank,period. End of story. You are
loved. There is nothing that youcan do to separate yourself from
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the love of God. Nothing,nothing. There's nothing. So I
just need to declare that andhave somebody here that garlis
of your own thoughts the enemystarts what others have said to
you or about you. You are loved.
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That's One of the reasons why inevery podcast, you are powerful,
you are significant, and you areloved. And that may sound
strange to some people. But whywould you say you love somebody
you've never met because I do.
And because I know your heavenlyFather loves you. And we don't
hear it often enough. So I wantyou to know that you are
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powerful, you're significant,and you are loved. And you can
turn your pain into purpose,telling you the other thing that
I want to honor you for. Sobecause you just told us, okay,
you are a grown woman, with thewhole family, married, retired,
have done wonderful things inyour life. And you made the
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decision to go back and love on17 year old telling you can we
talk about that for a minute,because there are women who have
passed that phase of life havepassed that season of life, and
they are moving on, and peoplearound them might not even know,
people might not even know whatthey've been through, maybe they
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went through it alone, that isover and may have pushed it into
the past, wipe my hands that I'mdone. What made you go back and
love on 17 year old.
I'm gonna tell you what mycounselor told me. He told me
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you cannot judge the 17 year oldTanya, by your 50 year old
knowledge. When he said that Irejected that. I didn't hear
that. I didn't. Because of whereI was, I had to grow into
understanding that thought. AndI know you talk a lot about hard
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work. My first two podcasts arecalled Hard work is hard work.
Part One and Part Two. That's Ihave to make a two part on that.
Because it is hard work. Butit's so worth it. And being able
to, to go back is a decision. Itis it is a decision. That's not
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an easy decision to make. Butbeing in community, being in
prayer, and having theunderstanding that it might be
hard, but it's going to be worthit in this person is going to
hold my hand through it. I cando it. And that's how I felt.
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That's when he told me that. AndI came to you guys. In the
beginning I only told you guysabout one abortion. So shame. I
was so I was trying to get overthe fat and say the word
abortion. And except that thiswas my plight, this was the
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thing that I had to fight now.
Right? So I had to go back andthink about what was going on at
the time. And when my counselorsaying we don't do superficial
work, this is what he meant. Youhave to go back and do do that
work where the injury happened.
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The injury happened when I was17 years old. And 33 years
later, I was doing it was amonth but it was September 2020.
And I was turning 50 in October2012. And in where I was what I
was feeling, I wanted to feelwhen people would say, Oh, God
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spoke to me and who got this Iwas to meet him that way. Why
can't I feel him? I want to feelhim lightning is not just saying
that all this time God wasn'tusing me because he was is not
to say God was with me becausehe was. But in that moment, I
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knew that I didn't havesomething with God. And I wanted
it so badly. I was willing to gothrough anything to get that
connection. And it was a shame.
It was a shame that I allowed totell myself that you're not
worried. You're not loved thatyou're not lovable. And I want
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the audience to know this is notan audible thing you say to
yourself, you don't sit and say,Oh, I'm unlovable. Oh, no, it's
a feeling that it's the lies atthe enemy that goes into your
head and then meditates downinto your heart. The same way in
order to disrupt those thoughts.
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You have to say, the truth ofGod and when had meditated to
your heart. Oh, that'sgood. That's good. You just gave
us a tool, you just gave us atool. Because what you taught us
is, what we meditate on iswhat's going to manifest. So if
I continue, and the wordmeditate literally means to roll
around in your mind, or tomutter, to say it over and over
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and over. So whatever I say, I'mgoing to have the thing that I
say over and over and over, andif I say, I'm not significant,
if I say I'm not good enough, ifI say I'm bad, then that is
what's going to be in my heart.
That's what I'm going tobelieve. And that is what's
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going to manifest in my action.
But if I begin, that's why wedon't just read the Word of God.
That's why we don't just listento a sermon, but you have to say
it, you have to meditate, youhave to mutter it, you need to
say it, because whatever yousay, over and over, it
transports from your head toyour heart. And once it gets in
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your heart, it's going tomanifest in your hands, it's
going to manifest in yourbehavior. You reminded me of
something I heard, Pastor DariusDaniels recently preaching, and
he was talking about how when hewas a young man, he I think it
was his father, he and his dadwere playing basketball. And his
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father jammed his finger, didn'tgo get medical attention, just
okay, no big deal, whatever. Sonow, his father has a bent
finger. And he went recently tosee if there was anything to be
done with it. And the doctorsaid, I can fix it, but I have
to break it. I can fix it. But Ihave to break it. If he had gone
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to get attention to the injury,when it happened, then he would
not be in the bent state today.
But because he did not getattention to the injury when it
happened. It created a bentstate. And so many of us are
operating. We're working. We'reserving, we're ministering.
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We're getting married. We'rehaving children. We're doing all
the things, but we're in a badstate. That was me. Yes, ma'am.
We're in a bit state and whatyou did what 50 year old Tonya
decided to do for 17 year oldTonya is even though it might
break me, I'm gonna go back andhe'll go, I'm gonna have to
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revisit this injury that haslong healed, but healed and
correctly. That has a scar. Whatlet me rephrase. It has a scar,
but it didn't heal. Yeah, it hasa scar, just because it has a
scar doesn't mean it's healed.
So I'm gonna have to go back andallow somebody to dig around in
that painful place. Physically,that's your surgeon, but
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psychologically, that's yourcounselor. You see what I'm
saying? And let me just saythis, this is not work that you
do alone. No, hear us. Know,hear us. This is not the kind of
work that you do alone. This isnot the kind of work that you
let the wrong people do for youor with you. You need people who
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are equipped. And I'm not justtalking about your pastor, I'm
talking about the Word of God.
But I'm also talking aboutcounseling therapists, you need
people who are experiencedskilled and equipped to walk you
through this type of healingjourney. So please be wise.
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Please be wise. But I had toidentify that Tonya because you
could have kept going and peoplearound you may not have known
but your soul knew your soulyour mind your wheeling your
emotions, your soul knew. That'swhat that breaking was. That
long night was that's what thatI feel like I'm losing my mind
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was your soul saying, Hey, weare injured, and this has never
healed. This has never healed.
So talk to me, Tonya about nowthat you have and continue to do
the work. Yes, because I knowyou do you share that with me.
You continue to do the work. Sonow that you are on your healing
journey. How has God used yourjourney to allow you to bless
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other women?
Oh my god. Dr. PDGA. I amastonished at how God has used
me that long Anything that I hadthat people would talk about,
like hearing from God and, anddiscernment from God, and he
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shows me like daily, how, justsaying yes to Him surrendering
to Him, and allowing him to useme in the, in the place that
hurt me the most is what he'susing in the world as my
purpose. And I will tell you mymain why I use I use this young
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lady, she was at my firstkeynote speech, she came to it,
and she was pregnant at thetime. This sweet young lady came
to a center that I work at, it'sa pregnancy center. And she This
was her third child, and she wascontemplating abortion. And when
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when we're in that moment, we'reconfused. We're scared. We're
listening to the last Satan ashe's going to do. So we think
the best thing is to have anabortion. I was able to be
there, they called me, I camein, and I sat with her, I took
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her out to the lake for twohours. And we just sat and we
talked. And I shared my storywith her. I shared how I felt a
share what decisions I wish hadI had made. And I also shared
the truth of my situation. Ithought I couldn't do it, but I
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could have, I thought my parentswill be disappointed, but they
will be okay. And that was herbig thing. My mom is going to
disown me, my family has alreadysaid if I bring another baby,
they're not going to you know,do this or they're not going to
do that. I'm so excited to saythat my soon to be God's son,
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she has asked me to be the Godparent of her son is one month.
Anytime that I doubt that, whatGod has brought me through all
the pain all the way back from17. Anytime I doubted, I look at
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that. I'm looking at just thatone thing, because he's shown me
many things. I've had manypeople call me and say different
things. One, a very close friendof mine who was at my keynote, I
didn't know she had an abortionbefore. But she told me she and
her husband had had an abortion.
And they never talked about it.
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Since that night, after sheheard my keynote, she went home
and her husband and her had aconversation about that for the
very first time. For the veryfirst time in 12 years, telling
me that's not healing in amarriage. Just those things,
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just let me know that God isusing the very thing that the
devil meant to break me. Thiswas building me up and God's
kingdom because he can use usfolly, when we come out of
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hiding when we remove the mask,and we do the work to uncover
and disrupt the lies of Satan.
Oh my goodness. Tanya, I'm sograteful for you. And I'm so
grateful for the way you turnyour pain into purpose. And that
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you are allowing other womeninto your journey and supporting
them through this. Yes, Icelebrate you. Thank you.
Oh, honor, and praise to God.
And I thank him for bringing youinto my life. I do because it
was it was a mindset work. Itwas it was what I was telling
(34:05):
myself the fear and you helpedme to disrupt the field.
Is My honor is my honor is myhonor to work with you to love
you. to journey with you. It ismy honor.
(34:26):
Such God work is in that's whatit is like you help me then I
help the next person, the nextperson. That's how God works.
That's how his kingdom works.
That'sexactly yes. I know that there
are people who need to hearmore. I know recently on your
podcast, you told your wholestory. So please let people know
(34:50):
how can they hear more from you?
How can they connect with you?
How can they work with youplease let them Oh,
well I have my podcast, ofcourse is beauty beyond the
ashes with Tanya V. Jones, andit's on all of the listening
platforms. If you're not surewhere to find that, I use
(35:12):
Buzzsprout. So you will be ableto go to Buzzsprout and find
that. My website is Tanya Bjones.com. I have my program on
there. I have my story on there.
I have my contact information onthere. Facebook, Tonya Bailey
Jones, and Instagram is blessed.
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The number one, underscore t twow yes for Titus two woman,
because that's what I'm herefor. Help the last one.
I love it. I love it. We willhave all of Tonya's information
in the show notes. So make sureyou scroll down and get all of
(35:54):
that information. Follow herlisten to the podcast, reach
out. If you are on your ownhealing journey, reach out. And
we were unmasking you and comeon reveal your true beauty and
God. Absolutely. Oh, I'm soproud of you. I love it.
I love you.
I love you. Listen, friends,thank you for sharing with us.
(36:19):
Thank you for listening. Sharethis with somebody who needs to
hear it. Somebody needs to knowthat they're loved. Somebody
needs to know that the shame isa lie. And they are powerful,
and there's purpose in theirpain. So you'll be sure to share
this. And as always, Tonya and Iwant you to know that you are
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powerful. You are significant.
And you are loved. Love alwaysPBJ See y'all later
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