Welcome to Divine Table Talk, where real conversations about faith, life, and spiritual growth take place. Hosted by Jamie Klusacek and Jane Williams, this podcast invites listeners into heartfelt discussions on topics that matter most to women of faith—whether it's navigating life's challenges, diving deep into Scripture, or encouraging one another to live out God’s truth with confidence. With thought-provoking insights, inspiring interviews, and practical tips, Divine Table Talk is your space to be encouraged, empowered, and equipped for your faith journey. Join us around the table for every episode as we seek to grow deeper in our relationship with God and one another.
Final Thoughts on Hebrews: Our Favorite Verses with Jamie and Jane
In this heartfelt wrap-up episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane reflect on their journey through the book of Hebrews—sharing their favorite verses, key takeaways, and the lessons that have most shaped their faith along the way. From Jesus as our High Priest to the call to live by faith and endurance, this conversation captures the beauty, challenge, and encour...
Deep Dive into Hebrews: A Conversation with Dr. Madison Pierce
In this insightful episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane sit down with Dr. Madison Pierce, renowned New Testament scholar and expert on the book of Hebrews. Together, they unpack the rich theology, structure, and spiritual depth found throughout the letter, exploring themes like Jesus as High Priest, the new covenant, and what it means to live out faith with endur...
Steadfast Faith and Grace That Sustains – Hebrews 13:7–25
In this final episode of the Hebrews study, Jamie and Jane walk through Hebrews 13:7–25, reflecting on the closing encouragements of the letter. They discuss the call to remember faithful leaders, guard sound teaching, and live lives centered on Jesus—the same yesterday, today, and forever. Together, they unpack how grace sustains us through every season and why worship, obed...
Faith in Action: Living Out Love – Hebrews 13:1–6
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane begin their study of Hebrews 13 by exploring what everyday faith looks like in action. These verses call believers to live out love through hospitality, compassion, purity, and contentment. Jamie and Jane unpack how genuine faith is revealed not just in what we believe but in how we treat others and trust God to provide. This conve...
An Unshakable Kingdom: Hebrews 12:18–29
In this powerful conclusion to Hebrews 12, Jamie and Jane explore the contrast between Mount Sinai and Mount Zion—a symbol of fear versus freedom, law versus grace. They unpack what it means to belong to an unshakable kingdom and how God is still shaking everything that’s temporary so that what is eternal will remain. This conversation calls believers to live with reverence, gratitude, and con...
Training for Godliness: Daring Joy with Nicole Zasowski
In this inspiring episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane sit down with Nicole Zasowski, author of Daring to Believe in Your Own Joy, to explore what it means to train for godliness and live with joy that’s rooted in faith, not circumstances. Together, they discuss spiritual disciplines, the courage it takes to choose joy in the face of pain, and how to let God transform y...
Strengthened by Discipline: Hebrews 12:3–17
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane unpack Hebrews 12:3–17, diving into the powerful theme of God’s loving discipline and its role in shaping our faith. They explore how hardship is not punishment but preparation—evidence that we are His children being trained for holiness. Through honest conversation and biblical insight, they discuss how to endure trials, pursue peace, a...
Running Your Race with Purpose: A Conversation with Dr. Zoe Shaw – Hebrews 12:1
In this empowering episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane sit down with Dr. Zoe Shaw, licensed psychotherapist, author, and host of The Dr. Zoe Show, to dive into the wisdom of Hebrews 12:1. Together, they explore what it means to run your race with endurance, let go of what holds you back, and embrace God’s unique path for your life. Dr. Zoe bring...
Run with Endurance: Fixing Our Eyes on Jesus – Hebrews 12:1–2
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane unpack Hebrews 12:1–2, one of the most powerful calls to perseverance in Scripture. They explore what it means to throw off everything that hinders, run with endurance, and fix our eyes on Jesus—the author and perfecter of our faith. Through honest reflection and biblical insight, they encourage listeners to stay steadf...
The God You Need to Know: A Conversation with Margaret Feinberg – Hebrews 11 & 12
In this uplifting episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane are joined by Margaret Feinberg, Bible teacher, author, and podcast host, for a powerful discussion on Hebrews 11 and 12. Together, they unpack what it means to know The God You Need to Know—the One who meets you in both your faith and your struggles. Margaret shares deep wisdom on trusting...
Faith That Faces Fire: Unshakable Trust in Hebrews 11
In this episode, Jamie and Mallory wrap up Hebrews 11 with a powerful look at verses 30–40 — a portrait of unshakable faith under fire. From the walls of Jericho to the fiery furnace, this passage reminds us that true faith doesn’t always lead to comfort, but it always leads to God’s glory. Join the conversation as they unpack how ordinary believers faced extraordinary trials, tr...
The Night Is Normal: A Conversation with Dr. Alicia Britt Chole – Hebrews 11
In this powerful episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane sit down with Dr. Alicia Britt Chole, author of The Night Is Normal, to explore the timeless truths of Hebrews 11. Together, they discuss what it means to live by faith when life feels dark or uncertain and how to wait well when God’s promises seem distant. Dr. Chole shares profound insights on s...
Faith in Action: Hebrews 11:17–29
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane dive into Hebrews 11:17–29, highlighting the bold faith of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and the Israelites. From Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac to Moses leading God’s people through the Red Sea, each story demonstrates what it means to trust God against all odds. This powerful passage reminds us that faith isn’t passive—it moves us to a...
A Better Country: Hebrews 11:8–16
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane continue through Hebrews 11 by looking at the faith of Abraham, Sarah, and the patriarchs. These verses highlight what it means to live as strangers and exiles on earth while longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Through their stories, Jamie and Jane unpack how faith calls us to trust God’s promises, even when they seem far off, and to fix ...
Living by Faith: Hebrews 11:1–7
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane begin their journey through Hebrews 11, the great “Hall of Faith.” They unpack the definition of faith as confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. Looking at the examples of Abel, Enoch, and Noah, they explore what it means to live a life that pleases God through trust and obedience. This conversation will encourage you...
Faith That Endures: Hebrews 10:26–39
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane close out Hebrews 10 with a sobering yet hope-filled passage. They unpack the warning against willful sin, the call to perseverance, and the powerful reminder that we are not of those who shrink back but of those who believe and are saved. This conversation encourages listeners to hold fast to faith, even in trials, and to walk boldly in the co...
Relationships That Reflect Christ: A Conversation with Natalie Runion
In this special episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane welcome Natalie Runion—author, speaker, and founder of Raised to Stay—for a heartfelt conversation about relationships. Together, they discuss what it means to cultivate Christ-centered connections, navigate conflict with grace, and build communities rooted in love and authenticity. Natalie shares wisdom...
Draw Near, Hold Fast, Spur On – Hebrews 10 part 3
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane walk through Hebrews 10:19–25, one of the most practical and encouraging passages in the book. Because of Jesus’ sacrifice, we can draw near to God with confidence, hold fast to our hope without wavering, and encourage one another toward love and good works. This conversation unpacks what it means to live boldly in community, stay ...
Once and For All: Hebrews 10 Part 2
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane continue through Hebrews 10:11–18, highlighting the radical difference between the endless sacrifices of the old covenant and the once-for-all sacrifice of Jesus. They unpack what it means that Christ is seated at the right hand of God and how His finished work secures our forgiveness and new identity. This conversation is a reminder that you do...
The Perfect Sacrifice – Hebrews 10 Part 1
In this episode of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane dive into Hebrews 10 Part 1 to explore how Jesus fulfilled the law through His perfect and willing sacrifice. They unpack the contrast between the repeated animal offerings of the old covenant and the once-for-all sacrifice of Christ, showing how His obedience opened the way for true forgiveness and transformation. Join them for a powerful...
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.
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