Unhypnotize Your Mind: 5 Steps to Mental Freedom with Heather Keys

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Aloha, love tribe. Welcome to the show. I have somebody here with me who serendipitously
is doing magical work that I happen to be doing on my personal journey, and it has been
ultra transformative.
And this woman here is the host of Un Hypnotize and she's gonna talk to us today about 5 ways to un hypnotize
our minds. This is Heather Keyes. Welcome, Heather. Woo hoo.

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Thank you so much for having me, DJ Valerie Belo.
Woo hoo. And thanks, Dave Bradley, for introducing us. He was just like, you need to meet Heather, Val. You guys are gonna click. And, of course, it's like, phew, Velcro. Just a match made in heaven. I remember from that first moment that we had a little Zoom, you were at the shopping mall.

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I know. Right? Yeah. We're good. We're good. I know. It was so great. I know. I was getting my gosh. That was, like,
that was in August because I was getting my son ready for him to move go to Portugal for 2 months and we were getting him, you know, a little phone. And I'm like, I'm not missing this call. I'm gonna sit in the middle of the mall with my little earbuds and talk to you. So thank you so much.
So how's it going? You just got back from

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somewhere special. Tell everybody where you just got back from. I was in Victoria, British Columbia at the learning BTC,
so a Bitcoin conference on the West Coast of Canada.
And I guess even since I've been back, people have been like, oh, is that was that for beginners? And then I didn't even really click on that, like, while I was there because I think in the Bitcoin space, especially everyone's learning,

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and there's people of all,
like, lengths of time that they've been orange pill since. Totally.
And like I said, I I sent out an email about this to my peeps too and said, like, I'm bringing that energy that creates worlds back with me. Yay. You know? And that's the way I think of, like, us connecting, and that's the way I think of, like,

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Bitcoin conferences
and, like, the community because
it's so healing. Like, it's so high vibe,
and it's just, like, it's something that you leave reenergized
from instead of drained.
Totally. I know. I always feel like
I get so sad when I have to leave the conferences. Like, I get I have I go through a couple weeks of of,

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like, separation anxiety and depression a little, you know, and I but I I'm not gonna say no to going to the events because they're so powerful and fuel filled with love and hope and wisdom and strength and skills and possibility and great connections. But
it's like, oh my gosh. These are, like, the most cool, wonderful, strong people on Earth who are doing great things,

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you know, and using their their time, treasure, and talent and their gifts and everything to
to truly make the world a better place. And it's like, it's the most uncompetitive
place I've ever been, You know? And and it just makes me feel like it's home. Like, Burning Man is kinda like home to me too, and so is
Bitcoin conferences or just anything Bitcoin. What what do it tell me a a key takeaway that you had, and then I'm gonna go into, like, who you are and your background and everything. I just wanna kinda celebrate that that I know that was a big endeavor for Tristan and the team. Yeah. Go wherever you want. I mean, those guys are awesome. They did a great job.

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You know, and and I think it is really valuable to just notice the low mood that comes from, like, being in such an aligned,
like, I'm home type of community. But I I think we can just, like,
keep tapping into what we know exists, especially, like, talking more with other Bitcoiners
once we're home and doing other things.

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I think for me, the biggest takeaway
was well, it's a little bit of a selfish thing because,
you know, I'm always so
thrilled when people really resonate with, like, the conversation and the theme of the podcast.
Yeah. Like, I get so energized when people are like, oh my gosh. Like, that we need that conversation.

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There's such such a space for that here, like, in the Bitcoin space for that conversation and just seeing people get lit up Yeah. About talking about the mind and consciousness and
money and the intersection
with Bitcoin.
I I I know a lot of people in my audience, you know, were creatives, were entrepreneurs, were coaches, were musicians, were podcasters,

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and a lot of folks are still just like, how does money relate to this, you know, changing the world thing? And I'm like,
I didn't really think it did in the past is I always thought, you know, money was the root of evil and all that stuff with all the the programming,
and we'll talk about all our programming obviously in the show.
But once I started understanding,

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like, the essence that it's the glue that holds all this life together and all of possibilities together, and if you've got this cancerous
soil filled glue or soil, you know, versus,
you know, something that's beautiful and nourishing
and regenerative for all of us to participate in, it creates
different levels of opportunity or different levels

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of manipulation and greed and corruption.
You know? And until those things came to light, I couldn't it just was like, we can't ever get our projects forward to the degree that we want to as changemakers
if we are building on this toxic soil. You know? And so,
and so I think it's super duper important that people consider,

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you know, money and the mind
and consciousness and peace and love are, like, all intertwined.
You know? They're not some separate siloed things.
So let's talk about
you, beautiful, and how on earth did you go from
being, you know, a a sovereign mind, hypnotherapist,

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healer, you know,
to getting Bitcoin in your world and let's talk about both and how they're intersecting for you in these days. Oh, wow. I know and I'm happy to see I'm like streaming on x for the first time and it's working.
Is it working? Yeah. It's working. Yeah. Hi, everyone.

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Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
So,
I guess, like, the short answer is that I, like many healers and people that feel called to help other people,
self heal. You know, I was on a journey of self healing, and one of my favorite things to talk about these days is just about how self healing is still controversial

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when it should just be the norm. Like, of course, our bodies are designed to heal
ourselves and give us symptoms and wisdom
for the directions that we need, but I also
can see how
it wasn't till, like, 12 years after my
I started my healing journey that I found hypnosis,

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and then hypnotherapy
gave me that opportunity
to be one with myself in that place of, like, relaxation
and stillness
to hear those messages coming from my body, coming from my heart, coming from my soul instead of coming from my mind.
Can can you help the the audience understand just so people if they're Yeah. They're confused, if they think hypnosis or hypnotherapy is making you clock like a chicken on stage. Oh, sure. Let's talk about what hypnotherapy and hypnosis is versus what it's not, you know, and how it relates to therapeutic uses versus entertainment purposes kind of thing.

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Yeah. Definitely. There's still such a
what I think is just a programming
about the misconceptions of hypnosis to keep people afraid of it. Like, somehow I'm in control of your mind or the hypnotist is the authority
of the mind.
Whereas,
you know,
while people could be suggestible in that state, what really happens when it's, like,

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done right is
the person that's in hypnosis
has access to their subconscious
mind, so it has access to the imagery and, like, and the information
that will be right for them. So for just a quick example, because sometimes I know that sounds abstract. It's like
it's like if I'm just like say I'm putting someone in hypnosis and I'm, like, counting them down and I'm just, like, giving their subconscious mind direction to just show them anything that they need or release or clear anything or

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anything unknown or known no longer needed,
it's amazing the imagery that comes up to them. Like, it could be like Mike Tyson if the guy was really resonating with Mike Tyson at the moment. Right? Or it could be like a like a phoenix rising from the ashes, or it could even take them back to, like, a younger version of themselves
where they're seeing something. And so I think that,

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you know, with hypnosis,
it is just a state of relaxation,
but I'll also say, like, it really is important to find that type of practitioner
that is, like, what we're talking about. It's not coming from a, like, I'm the authority over you,
but I'll help you tap into your inner authority.

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You know, if that makes sense, because there's still a lot of that in the industry where I'm gonna tell you how to act and what to eat and what to do, and that will cure you.
Totally. And I think, you know, let's talk a little bit about the subconscious so people can understand how the subconscious is such a driver, and it drives most of our decisions and how we operate. A lot of people think, you know, and I was included in this,

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number
of majority of people think like, Oh, I'm in control, my mind is in control, my consciousness,
I know what's going on and I know right from wrong and I'm making this decision and I'm driving the bus.
It wasn't until
8 years ago
that
I discovered I was molested by my uncle when I was 4 years old.

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And
I didn't have that memory. You know, it was gone. It was trapped in here because my mind, my subconscious needed to protect me so I could, you know,
move forward in my life. And so,
you know, but
it wasn't until I was doing EMDR and then I started doing Hypno and all these other things, but it was something that like came out and I was like, Oh, my gosh. This is what's been causing me so much distress. This has been causing me a lot of,

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anxiety. This has been something that's, like, been this, like, little undercurrent of fire inside of me, you know, that I was using substances and other things to try to put out and not even knowing that it was being caused by this old, old thing. And so,
you know, let's talk a little bit about the subconscious and how,

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it it it's really important that we start to understand what it is and how we can get in relationship with our subconscious.
Mhmm. That's a really good point because,
generally speaking,
most of the time, say, someone comes to me and asks me, you know, if hypnotherapy can help them,
they tend to, like, in the logical mind, kinda think they know what's going on or think they know what they need to do.

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That. Yeah.
Because the subconscious is that data bank, because the subconscious really does have, you know, the the imprints that we took on, the paradigms that we took on
unconsciously,
unknowingly, and unwillingly in a lot of cases
just because of our experiences
and
and our events in our lives. And, you know, sometimes we don't need to let it come out, but one thing I will say that I've been noticing a lot lately with my clients is that

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it's really
the freeing
of suppressed
memories and emotions
that sets them free. Yeah. Like, resolves the condition.
Like, yeah, they come back to me and they're like, oh my gosh. Like, if you told me I was gonna have to feel all this, I might not have said yes. Mhmm. But thank you for helping me do that.

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Yeah. I think it's it's it can be intimidating, you know,
because we don't wanna relive
old traumatic experiences obviously, you know, and we wanna move through them in a way that's safe and obviously, you know, studying a lot of trauma work,
you know, they say the issues are in the tissues. And so literally our bodies are storing

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these subconscious memories and it can cause disease
in many different ways. And so, we can have physical disease and we can have obviously mental disease which leads to emotional
and spiritual disease. And so,
I I think it's important to consider you know, like you said, making sure that there's a lot of trust with the person that you're working with, you know, and knowing that they're not trying to

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put their will on you. Like, I have the answer. It's like,
as any therapist, you know, or a coach, our job is to be the Yoda, you know, and the guide. We're not the one who's gonna say you must do this and all that. And it's because that it disempowers
the client and that disempowers the person. And so,
as far as, like, feeling the feelings, right, let's let's talk about the 5 ways that we were, you know, talking about being un hypnotized. Let's talk about what what it is, you know, in your your context

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to be hypnotized
in, you know, this,
you know, this realm and and how you started this podcast, and then we'll go through the 5 areas.
Yeah. I mean, one thing I will just say
about this sort of, like,
you know, the the diagnosis, I I do just wanna say, like, I
I do think sometimes that the only reason that we need to go back to a moment,

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to get relief or heal a certain condition
is because that's also, like, kinda programmed into us with, like, modern psychology, which I think of as fiat psychology
sometimes.
And so I think, like, if enough times were told,
like, oh, we've gotta go back or it's in the tissues or it's been imprinted,

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then that's why that works so well because
I can usually see someone, you know usually, when I see someone and I think, okay. How can we unhypnotize
them?
It's like I can see that
they don't have the problem they think they have.
Right.
Right? But if they really believe that the problem is because of a past event, well, then I can take them in hypnosis to that past event, heal that child within,

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and then they will be free because they believed that that's what they needed to be free.
So I'm just gonna put that in there for a moment because I don't wanna also create more beliefs
around what we have to do to be free.
Yeah. And I think and and that's the deal. It's like
we've assigned meaning to things. Right? Yeah. And and that's, I think, what we do consciously and subconsciously. There's a in my therapist wall, she has a,

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a there's a pipe on the wall and she's like, what is that? I'm like, it's a pipe. And she's like, are you sure?
And I was like, yeah. It's a pipe. And she's like,
it's a picture of a pipe.
And so
she she and I'm just like, okay. Keep going. You know? And she's just like, this is how
we our minds think that there's all these big things that are out there that are and we assign them these big meanings, and the reality is a lot of the times, they're memories.

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Maybe they're not as big and scary as we thought. You know? And so it's up to us to redefine
what the meaning is of an experience or of a thing
or any of it. And so we get to take that ownership back
and recognize, you know,
that those are past images,
and we can look at them and re reassign them new meaning, you know, in a way that's powerful. The Course in Miracles. Nice. Oh, good. I haven't done A Course in Miracles. Like, this glass of water, say someone gave me this glass that meant a lot to me. You know? This glass has the meaning that I give it. Exactly.

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And and that's, I think, any that's with anything. You know? Like, oh,
I broke up with this person. It's the end of the world. It's like, actually, it's the beginning of a new one that's gonna be better. Which which meaning do I wanna adopt into my my, you know, world? And so Right. So we have so much power that I think we forget. And so I think do you do you think, like, being hypnotized in the words, you know, in the way that you're speaking

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is is is just forgetting the truth
or being just programmed from the external
sources, whether it's religion, society, our schools, our families, our friends,
obviously, the media, like, do you feel like we're hypnotized
under those forces
as a Yeah. Society, as a culture, as individuals?

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Absolutely. I mean, becoming unhypnotized
is more of a subtraction
than it is an addition.
Yeah.
So it's really letting the things fall away that are just keeping us from our innate wisdom and health and well-being.
And that's mental health too. So
that's why it kinda came to me. I think this was probably

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I re like, I rebranded
my corporation
over COVID
because it came became so clear to me that I really wasn't
hypnotizing
anyone,
but I was unhypnotizing
them from whatever
Yep. You know, is keeping them down or holding them back. And
it really just evolved so perfectly once I kind of came into the Bitcoin space and people just got it. And so how did you how what's that what's that,

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what's that bridge? How did you get into the Bitcoin space and and kinda got here? And then we'll come we'll come back to the 5, the 5 ways. Right. Right. Yeah. We're already touching on them, so it'll be perfect to wrap it in a nice little bow. Cool.
Yeah.
So I
I guess moving to Calgary is what really was the impetus

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because,
Dale, my Regina pal from Quickbit,
he was, having a table at the Bitcoin Rodeo, part of the Bitcoin Rodeo last year, like, 2023,
and was like, you should come. I think you'll really like it. Come with you know, work the table. So then I went there, and I just, like,

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loved it, loved the vibe, and then I was in the 1st SAP market. So we had, like, the local market for cash and Bitcoin,
and then just met like, that's when I met even like, spent more time with, like, Dave Bradley and
and Ben Perron and just, like, all the awesome community that they're building in Calgary.
And then there was, like, another sat market, and then I was really geeky going to, like, the YYC

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meetups. And, like, I was just like, give me all the Bitcoin stuff I can take. And then this year at the Bitcoin Rodeo launching the podcast.
Amazing. But but what what was your, like, entry point other than your friend saying here, come here? Like, how did you get an moment that, like, well, Bitcoin is this sovereign money to go along with your sovereign mind,

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philosophy of living?
Good question. Great question. Because I was orange peel, like, a few years before that. Okay. But it wasn't until I was, like,
talking to Bitcoiners on a more regular basis that I was like, oh my god. You know, this is, like, this is one of the people I wanna talk to because they already are unhypnotized

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at least on one level.
Yes. You know? Yes. Like,
you know, at least one level, they're unhypnotized.
It's through, like, the money system and fiat. Like, they're already
un hypnotized, so I'm just like, this is my community.
And then, of course, the more that I had this conversation and the more I saw just how un hypnotized many Bitcoiners are in

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other areas of their life. Never mind being like a creator from collective
consciousness
for solutions like I am. Mhmm. It was just such a perfect fit, and I'll tell you something funny just to to
wrap this up. It's like, I realized this at learning Bitcoin because sometimes I was getting a little bit of, like,
I was getting a little bit of, like, people being like, oh, Heather, like, you're such a you're you've just got the excitement of a newbie kind of like that vibe.

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So what I realized is like, I don't know if you've ever
seen the 3 stages of love by Ram Doss.
I haven't seen that, but Ram Doss is obviously my my number one teacher. Okay. The 3 stages of love. Okay. Let's hear it. So I'm in stage 1 with Bitcoin, which is infatuation.
You know?
Like, I am falling in love with Bitcoin.

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I am totally got the chemicals.
I'm falling in love with Bitcoin,
and I'm infatuated.
And then the second step is choice, where you choose love. Like, you choose to love the person.
You decide, like, I wanna be in this relationship even if sometimes you break my heart.
Mhmm. You know? And I've had that a little. Like, I'm still, like but I'm really good at coming back from heartbreak, so I have been

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brokenhearted
and scammed by Bitcoin. You know?
And so
and then the third stage, which is, like, where we can all get to after choosing Bitcoin. And some of you are already there, which is, like, you've made the choice. You're in a committed relationship with Bitcoin. And through that committed relationship,
you experience

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the divine again. Like, you come back to the infatuation
and love, but, like,
through your own divinity and devotion.
Love it.
I love it. Oh my god. Ram Dass, like, changed my life when I was Same. Totally. Ugh, man. I love his his,

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you know, just constantly, like, oh, my neurosis my neurosis, all this stuff. He was just so not that he was trying to be self deprecating necessarily, but he was so humble in his humanity and not acting like I'm the guru or any of it. You know? I know that he went through that transformation from being, you know, mister,
professor all the way in, you know, to his whole journey, but I think it's like

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he's definitely somebody who is he's in my grid, in my heart. He's up on my wall right here. I should actually, I'm gonna put him behind the over here. Do it. I'm moving you because I look and see him here, but only on the show. You can't see him on the show. So I'll move my buddy,
in Maharaji, of course.
And so okay. So that's incredible. And you know what? Zen mind, beginner's mind. And so every day,

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I hope to be excited about waking up and jumping out of bed for whatever I'm doing. I don't wanna just get into some old fuddy duddy
mode, whether it's music, whether it's being a mom, whether it's being, you know, a Bitcoin or anything. Like, I wanna
I always wanna be stoked. I don't wanna get into some boring
rut. That vibration, that frequency, that energy is fuel,

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you know, to keep us going. So why
why not? Like, let's hold on. That's that's good stuff.
I know. It's good.
I was very happy to realize it too. I'm like,
I'm kinda fine staying in the honeymoon stage. I'm a I like honeymoons. Let's go on them every day with with our mission and something that fuels our our

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our vision for the future in life. I think it's really, really powerful. So let's talk about
the 5 steps, the 5 keys, Heather Keys,
the the 5 keys to un hypnotizing
our mind. So let's talk about,
number 1. We were talking about awareness of that you might be hypnotized and then also this understanding you you are, like, the that you might be and then the recognition that, oh, I am.

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Yeah. That's kind of the the dark night of the soul in a sense. You know? It's that it's those
it's the awareness that causes you to realize, like, your involuntary
actions or your
your thinking that tends
to drag you down or causes you to self sabotage or whatever it is. You know? It's just that

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realization
that
you might have taken on some beliefs that aren't really making you happy or healthy.
And and are they even yours?
Yeah. That's the thing. Are they your authentic
beliefs, or do you just believe them because you were told that that's the right thing to do or,
you know, however it might have worked from all these external influences like we say? I wrote an article called The Bitcoiner's Dilemma, and it talks a lot about, you know, when your worldview gets shattered because

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once you start to get this truth, it's like, uh-oh,
this is gonna have to go, and then the relationships are gonna have to change. We'll get to that. That's step number 4. But,
but it is it's very
mentally destabilizing
and emotionally destabilizing
when you realize, when you wake up and go, fuck, I've been in the matrix.
You know? And I've been lied to and I've been duped.

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You know? And so that feeling, like, do you find with your clients that you're working with who are
you know, they think they are coming in for one thing, and then the whole new thing comes up. It's like, oh, no. It's this. Like, do you do you how do you help them through that that that collapse, that crumble?
Yeah. That's a great awareness. I love talking to you. I think we talked about this a bit on my episode with you on the podcast too of just even,

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you know, when you realize, like, you sort of took on this hustle culture, say, even with your business of helping or healing people and how unsustainable
that is once you see,
you know, how hypnotized
we can become. And I don't know. Lately, I've been thinking I think that's all I do in 1 on 1 now is just help people through the dark night of the soul. Yeah. You know? Because sometimes it's actually

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it's become really apparent to me how many especially here in Canada,
like, many people are on, if not just one, but more than one antidepressant
or antianxiety.
Yep. And, one of the, you know, tough
awarenesses or awakening that happens is, like, they actually didn't even realize they could come off of them.

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And then
that's just a whole thread.
Like, you know, once you start pulling on that thread,
like, not only that, but they're likely the cause of the anxiety.
Oh, boy. Yeah.
It's
a it's a whole thread. So that's just one example of, like, one area,

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but I think it's really important for people to be able
to process and release,
like, once they see something that is no longer serving them. Yeah. So that, like, what they know now can be embodied.
Totally. No. But that's probably the next. Yeah. That so that's yeah. That'll that's gonna go in number 3. So let's talk about our consumption the consumption model. Number 2. Right? And so you were just mentioning consumption of, obviously,

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prescription pills. You obviously,
we consume social media. We consume mainstream media. We consume
what our, you know, the the guiltiness of, you know, your parent family told us all the things that we've we've
consumed into our our our bodies, our minds, our ears, our mouths, you know.
Let's talk about how does your consumption model impact how hypnotized or unhypnotized

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you are?
Oh, yeah. It kinda came to mind like you are what you eat.
Yes.
Exactly,
dude.
Yep.
Like, you are what you eat. You are what you listen to. You are what you,
like, surround yourself by.

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Yeah. And and I think, like, fear is obviously the number one best seller
of any, you know, product or service. Oh my god. You're not good enough. You don't you know, you're wrinkly or this. You don't have the car.
You're you're not at this status, la la la. You know? And so the fear that you're gonna get left behind,
you know, triggers something, I think, primarily

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about us as humans where we wanna feel like we're a part of something bigger than us because it's a safety mechanism, you know, belonging to a tribe. And so when we feel like we don't have enough or do enough or whatever, and then we're gonna get left out,
that definitely triggers, like, a survival, like, uh-oh,
I better kick into gear. And so I'm sure that kicks in a lot of adrenaline and cortisol and all of the hormones that make us sick, the neurotransmitters

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and stuff. And so how let's talk about that. Like, how
Yeah. You know, like,
it's important that we're educated,
obviously, about what's going on in the world, but it's really easy to get in the doom loops,
you know, of of any of this stuff. So how do you
how do you support people, you know, with their consumption models?

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Yeah. And that's a really good
focus to bring to light because
we saw, especially over the last 4
years, just how the fear of
being ostracized
from the community
caused people to
go against their own morals Yeah. In the way in the decisions that they made and in the way they treated other people. Yeah. And so I think it's really good for us to have compassion,

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you know, for how
how we act when we're
fearful and then also
recognizing
if we are consuming something. Like, if you're consuming something that's causing you to be fearful
of your neighbor or going outside and breathing in the air Yeah.
Or whatever it is,

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or even about the future. You know? Sometimes even Bitcoin content can be really scary about the future. Yeah.
So I think it's like it's like part of it is, like,
you know, not letting your mind to be a wild animal.
Yeah. Like, recognizing, like, you have autonomy over your own mind even if it's, like, giving you a anxious feeling,

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you could pause and at least recognize that whatever you just are thinking about or whatever you consume that caused you to feel like this
is likely untrue in the sense, like,
you know, yeah, nobody wants to think negatively about the future, and I think that's why
we love consuming Bitcoin content because it it really is about a solution.

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Yeah. But at the same time, the the freedom starts first in the mind.
Yeah.
Like, the consumption
is, like, really helpful
to limit if you don't have,
freedom over your own mind.
And then also if you notice, like,
if you notice, when I think about this or when I read about this, like, it really makes me feel bad. I mean, then maybe find something else to read

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or go for a walk in in nature.
Like, I wanna ask you, define
freedom over your mind. What does that mean?
To me, freedom over your mind is
understanding
how
thought works and how you're experiencing
thought
and understanding

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that just because you have a negative response to something that you're thinking,
doesn't mean it's true.
Okay. Right? Because even this whole model that we're talking about regression and don't get me wrong. I mean, I've been a regression hypnotist for, like, 13 years. Like, you know, but I just understand, like, why it works because there is this this model

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that, like, oh, if I'm thinking about something negatively from the past and it's giving me a negative feeling,
then it must be that I need to heal that thing from the past to feel better.
Got it. But that's not really true if you have autonomy over your own mind.
And you recognize that a low mood, like a thought that comes with a low mood, has zero truth to it. Yeah.

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It's
it's irrelevant.
What what do you mean a thought that comes with a low mood has zero truth to it? Oh, yes. So exact for example, like that. Like, say I'm feeling bad. Say I'm feeling, like, bad today. Right? And I'm just, like, I'm just not feeling good. I'm just feeling, like, I'm not getting stuff done on my to do list, and then my mind starts going,

(33:20):
oh, I shoulda did this before, or, like, I can't believe I haven't done this yet.
I should be, like, doing this, or I should have done this. Or this happens a lot with, like, say, people that wanna lose weight, and they're just like, you know, I they're just so stuck in, like, what they didn't do to get to here. Mhmm. Or even the trauma paradigm, right, of, like, oh, because this happened to me in the past,

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I'm unable to feel better now,
but all of that is just thoughts
because the mind is deciding
this is why I feel bad.
Got it. And so
so feeling bad is a choice?
It's not a choice. You're gonna feel bad if you're gonna feel bad. The the freedom comes from being careful of what you identify

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to the reason why you're feeling bad. Because, again,
like, this is, like, here. Right? This is the analytical conscious mind where there are no solutions and no real
connection to the imagery and the imprints and whatever you might be processing or just feeling as a result.
And so we have to be really careful to not get caught up in the analytical mind of, like, what is wrong with me?

(34:35):
Yeah. And that's a good point. What is wrong with me? Yeah. I I think a lot of us, I don't know, self deprecation
is a big thing that I I know I've experienced in my life and self congratulation. And it's like, why are you thinking this way? Do the,
you know, and I beat myself up a lot. And
I'm I'm definitely learning to have a lot more self compassion

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and a lot more,
grace and patience. And and,
you know, I'm doing the best I can with what I have. I think every human is at the moment, you know? I mean, I hope we all are, but I believe we are.
And so I think that's an important
distinction
too, you know? It's like that we've got these different parts that live in

(35:19):
our
operating system, I call it. You know? That some of them are protectors, some of them are the critics, some of them are the playful child. You know? And,
and so I feel like, you know, parts work is very important to do and integrate into
our lives because it's like, who's holding the mic right now?
You know? Is it you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is it your thing.

(35:41):
Yeah. So I just I I don't know. I think it's a very, very important thing to start understanding,
because if we can't know ourselves, you know, like, what what is it? Know thyself is what one of the most important things that we can do. And if we're not experts on our operating system and how we work,
like, how can we expect, first of all, people in our lives to understand us and be patient or, you know, navigate

(36:05):
the complexities of our own
selves? And then, you know, and then how can we actually be effective?
You know? How can we be the most effective versions of ourselves if we are not experts on ourselves? And so
deep inquiry
for our whole lives
is very important, I think, because
if, you know, when you became a mother, were you the same woman you were prior to motherhood?

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Did your thinking
shift? Like, I know mine sure did. You know?
Like, I didn't know what organic was before I was a mom.
You know? I was like, oh, organic is actually kind of important in this GMO stuff. Maybe I don't want my kids having you know? Like,
all your stuff starts to shift when you have different life experiences. So

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so to think you know yourself
at one point is,
you know, you it's one point in your life. You know, you have to keep
digging deep and getting curious and being an investigator,
you know,
and and
the good and the bad, the shadow and the light. Right?
Yeah. And it's like if to really be unhympitize

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because that's the thing. It's so freeing to understand
that, like, you're just a human being feeling something, and there's not a reason why, and it doesn't even matter. And knowing the reason why wouldn't change the fact that you feel.
Yeah. You know? It doesn't change anything. And then being unhympitized
is like
like you just become aware. Like we said, those first two steps are so massive because,

(37:31):
say, for example, like, I was I wrote this whole email, and then I tweeted a bit about being scammed, and and it started a bigger conversation than I am gonna make an episode about. But what I really learned is that
is that I think it was Adam from Bitcoin Well, he made a comment on my post that said
because I was like, oh my god. I just feel so dumb. Like, I'm a hypnotist, and I got hypnotized.

(37:56):
And then, you know, and then he was like, oh, but the Fiat programming is, like, so multilayered.
Yeah. And then after he said that,
I started to really look at
my thinking and my thinking around money
and, like, my financial
paradigms, and I was like,
woah.

(38:17):
It is really even more multilayered
than I imagined. So I'm so glad that that happened to me because without that happening to me
and without having those feelings of, like, whatever
discomfort,
I would have never
took that journey into myself and realize,
oh,
there's a lot

(38:39):
that is connected
to fiat
programming.
It is. And I think this is where, you know, Seb Bunny's book, I think we might have talked about that on your show,
you know, and just how the whole family unit is programmed because of money
and scarcity and mom and dad not being home or mom and dad getting divorced or all the things, you know, that are

(38:59):
impacting how we're growing and how we're getting
formed, hypnotized,
programmed however we wanna, you know, use those words. I think it's
so, so important. Let me ask you this. So let's go into this 3rd part about,
so first step, awareness.
You might be and you are getting out of the matrix. 2nd step, observe your consumption model. 3rd step, you know, we're talking about professional support and professional help. So, you just named something that I think is very, very important especially for a lot of

(39:28):
healers and
coaches and people who are out there as change makers.
We don't have all the answers and we're not all perfect,
you know? And so to sit and think like, Oh, you're gonna go to somebody and they need to be
pristine and and, you know, that's ridiculous because that's nobody operates that way. And so,

(39:49):
how do you suggest people go about
investigating
and vetting and being discerning when they find professional support, whether it's through hypnotherapy, whether it's EMDR, whether it's
EMDR, whether it's somatic work, whether it's psychedelics? You know, how
do you guide people to make sure that they're finding reputable people that are, you know,

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gonna be very, very safe, 1st and foremost?
I mean, great question, especially in the days of, like, get your certification
in 3 days on the Right. Net.
Number 1,
the number one thing I see that causes
me

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concern
is
just
practitioners
making diagnosis.
That's my less favorite thing is, like, because, especially without really,
you know, I'm fine if that's their process and there's like a process they go through to help

(40:53):
understand
or help the person see what they might be needing help with. Mhmm. That's one thing. But I think to just, like,
say to just kinda look at someone and say, oh, your heart chakra is out of balance,
or, oh, you're this is because of your past trauma.
You know, it's the same thing

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when they didn't come to the insight themselves.
So
that's something I'm very cautious of because the problem with that is, like, it might be that the person sees that for them, but we have to remember that the practitioner or the healer
or the coach is seeing that from their level of consciousness.

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Right? So even if it's correct,
it's not going to be effective
if the client or the patient doesn't see it for themselves or see what they need to see for themselves
from their level of consciousness.
And that's why we have so many people very educated going around as, you know, patients or clients going, I know what's wrong with me, but I can't do it.

(42:00):
And that's because they didn't embody it. Like, they didn't see it for themselves. So I know that this might make it difficult, but I would say always find someone that you resonate with,
that you feel comfortable with. Like, it doesn't matter so much, honestly, the certifications,
unless, like, that gives you more trust.
But it's really about, can

(42:20):
I do I trust this person
and their energy?
And I think how we build trust I actually wrote like, I was I published a chapter in a book about this,
about, like, how to hold transformational
space.
Mhmm. And it's really about this. So I could even share
a a free download for your for your

(42:41):
viewers. That would be great. And for your list, of the ebook,
because I felt it's so important that we have this conversation
about how to hold space, and then the the people also considering who to choose could read that too and go,
oh, right.
Like, there is a vetting process, and I think the number one process is they're they're they're using their gifts to help you as the client realize

(43:09):
and feel through things and see things for yourself. And I might be biased because I know that hypnosis is just the queen at helping people do that or, like, a trance state just makes that easier.
Mhmm. But a lot of people go into, like, a trance state and, like, a consult or a con conversation
or an energy work or a reflexology

(43:29):
or a massage, they can, especially if the practitioner
relaxes and just lets them feel. Mhmm. Right? Like, there's a lot of insight that can be had, and you can always point to things. But I think that's number 1. It's, like,
really
be on the lookout for someone that is
interested in pulling it out of you instead of telling you. Oh, I love that. That is a monster nugget right there.

(43:57):
That's another pal podcast.
I know. Well, because you just think about, you know, like, psychiatry versus
this type of work. Psychiatry,
you must have a diagnosis in order, you know, you gotta put it, what is it, DSM 5 something and
you have to have a little code and you have to label the person and then you can do your insurance claims and then you can give them some something from your script pad for the day. And so

(44:22):
it's such a fucked up system, you know, because
there's
studies done. I'm reading a book called The Coaching Habit right now.
And he was talking about and I believe this is true because this is why I created this 11x love model, this love method is
when you call somebody a name,
doesn't matter what it is. You're awesome. You're great. You're an addict. You're a deep you're depressed. You have this. You're whatever, any of it. You're a criminal.

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There was a study done with people who,
were,
getting out of jail.
And so when they did these two groups and one was labeled,
you're criminals,
and other people were labeled, you know, you're recovering and you're gonna get whatever. The people who got labeled as criminals repeated the offense

(45:13):
more regularly
than the people who were
labeled like you're you're in recovery or whatever it was, you know, whatever the positive label was. And so
labels matter
tremendously
because we adopt those identities,
you know? And so when I was doing 12 Step Program, you know, 8 years ago, you know, 7, 8 years ago after I got, you know, out of my divorce and out of rehab, I was like, Ugh, I don't like calling myself an alcoholic because I'm somebody who

(45:41):
misused alcohol because I was depressed and I had all these other things going on in my life and it turned into, you know,
an addiction for a period of time. But I don't identify
as an alcoholic or an addict. I had an addiction and I had the problem, but that's not my identity. Like, I am love. I am God's child, you know? And so That's right. I am light and that's what I identify as. So if you label me as she's clinically depressed

(46:09):
or something, it's like, no. I have depression sometimes or I experience depression sometimes, but I am not I am not depression.
Yes. And so I think that our you know, and so part of, you know,
why I'm the vibe goddess. It's like when I get on stage to DJ, if I'm Val, I'm like, well, it's gonna be good. But if I'm the vibe goddess, it's gonna be fucking great, you know, because I embody this beautiful

(46:34):
identity. And so to me, I think it's so important that we
identify as who we wish to be,
you know, and and our highest selves. And then come up with fun names too. You know? And so That's good. I'm not a diagnosis.
I am, like, my superhero version of me. You know? I mean, Adele does this on stage. Beyonce did that on stage. It's like they step into their their higher alter ego self. And so so this was such a great nugget. I'm so wow. Thank you.

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Yeah. That's a great nugget from you too,
with, like, the alcoholic and the I'll just say one thing about that, which is, like, that's that's a big part of becoming unhypnotized
is, like, that becoming unhypnotized from your diagnosis.
Totally. And it's just it's it's it is crazy. I know. I was bulimic when I was, you know,

(47:23):
like, imagine if you had to carry on. But I don't yeah. I don't identify with that. If somebody, like, you know, got through cancer, are they like, oh, I'm a cancer victim my whole life? It's like, no. I'm moving on. I'm I don't they didn't wanna hold on to that energy. You wanna evolve, you know? How can your soul and spirit and consciousness ever

(47:43):
fly
to where it's supposed to be if you're if you're in this anchor of negativity
in this box? It can't.
Fiat. It's a fiat medicine. I think of it as fiat medicine.
Mhmm.
Yeah. It really is. Let's talk about number number 4. So number 1 is awareness, number 2, consumption model, number 3, professional, number 4 is relationships.

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Let's talk about how can we unhypnitize ourselves through,
rearranging perhaps relationships.
Oh, this is a tough sticky one. Mhmm. You know, because all relationships
are different and Yeah. And we're inevitably
going to be triggered in soul relationships, especially.

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I believe our relationships are teachers.
Yeah. And so sometimes it is hard to know, like, is this better for me to move on from, or is there something still here for me to learn?
Totally,
dude. Oh,
I know.
Right there. Shit.

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I know. I wish I wish I could just with my teacher.
More compassionate
and more patient.
Oh, no.
I wish I could just be that person as I leave. You know? Go where you're loved, but I look at everything as evolutionary.
And
relationships can be so evolutionary,
and they can really shine a light on parts of ourselves that want freedom.

(49:11):
It's true. Well and you had said earlier just, you know, with, you know, being hypnotized and scammed, and you were like, oh, if I didn't get that experience, I wouldn't have got this lesson. Obviously,
every lesson you know, everything's a lesson and a blessing. Right? And so Yeah. Yeah. It's it's but there there is
there's a point at which some relationships

(49:31):
become
dangerous and toxic, you know, to our soul and to our mind and to our mental health and and everything. And so Really.
Do you have any kind of advice for people who are like, at what point in, you know, boundary setting in relationships
is it a time to say adios?
I think the most important thing is to

(49:55):
just
remember
that if you have
to push it or force it, to just let it be. You know? I think it's really important
to have a
like, not have a lack mindset around relationships
because
I it can be really easy to not wanna lose the person, and then you lose yourself

(50:16):
and your own, you know, your,
you we've all done it. I mean, I I I everyone I know, at least my and myself many times, I've done it. You know? Yeah. And I think that
especially when you're in I think we maybe talked about this too. Like, you're in that lonely stage of, like, you awakened,
and now you're facing things and you're seeing what people don't fit into the life you are wanting to create for yourself and where you're going. Yeah.

(50:45):
And so I think there's a lot of compassion for ourselves needed,
but I think the trust piece is massive. Like,
I know for myself, I really just, I think my whole life, if I really look back, I never fit in. I never fit in, and I never felt like this is my community until now. You know how I feel in Calgary.

(51:06):
Yeah. My friends in Bitcoin and even other friendships I've been making, but because I'm able to come from this place of, like,
wholeness in a sense, like, I know
that life will give me whatever I need. And if that's just needing to be alone and feel my feelings for 10 years, I guess that's what it is.
Yeah.

(51:26):
It's it's it's That makes sense. Being comfortable being
alone is very different than being lonely, right? We, you know, can differentiate
loneliness versus being alone. I love being alone a lot. Like, I value my time alone. Sometimes it's too much. Obviously, COVID was a nightmare. And I think some of that residual

(51:47):
separation,
you know, has lingered on a lot of us,
you know, and I think it's altered the way that we relate with each other, you know, because instead of, you know, being able to just, Oh, I'm just going to go to the park or do this thing with somebody, it's like, oh, I had to get in that habit, that pathway
in my mind of, like, oh, I'm just gonna text and I can't go see them. And so now I think a lot of us are defaulting, not everybody, of course, but some people default a little bit, especially the younger generation

(52:16):
with digital, digital, digital. And so that's not, like,
the healthiest connection
consistently. Like, you need human touch and connection and all the things. And so,
I always say I have a deficiency in oxytocin.
Yeah. I know. I like hugs. I want I got a lot. I got it filled up a lot at the conference, so I'm very happy with that. My friend Katie, she just kept giving me the oxytocin dose.

(52:43):
Those.
Yeah.
You know? Just
but I think that you probably have, like, some really good insight into this too because,
you know, when we do get to that point of realizing,
like, let's be honest.
Sometimes the the belief system is just too different, especially when you start really waking up to,

(53:06):
you know, what's really going on in a sense of, like, the parts of the world that
are not for our health and abundance, and you can't unsee it, and you're just now you're orange pilled or
you're awakened
or you're, like, you've levelled up in consciousness.
I think that it does sometimes

(53:28):
make us have to have the courage to, like, just leave old friendships behind.
Yeah. I I agree. And it's sad, you know, and I've I've gone through that. I think many people I have on the show, I asked them how the relationships have changed because of Bitcoin, you know? And
it's the same thing. It's just kind of like we start to get more gravity towards those of us who are aligned and thinking a certain way and operate in a certain way and other people,

(53:54):
it's like,
we love you. We're here. We're not you know, you're always welcome to join the join the the the fun, but you don't have to keep
getting dragged back into the old
paradigm too much because it doesn't feel good. You know? It's like it just feels
like why am I spending my time here? There was a woman I was listening to. I forget. I think

(54:15):
gosh. Who was it? Lewis Howes was interviewing her on the School of Greatness, and she used to be a a secret service agent. She's a Greek woman. I wanna say her name's like Eva Eva something.
Beautiful, beautiful woman, but very, very, like,
just, like, fucking badass warrior woman, you know, but just, like, she's a new mom and everything. She wrote this great book, but she really talks about your circle of influence and the people that are around you.

(54:42):
And she's, like, that's the number one thing. Like, it will poison you and bring you down if you are around toxic
humans who,
you know, don't,
you know, see what you're up to or if they try to cut you down or insult you in any way or any of it. It's just kinda like,
get that out of your life because all that does is drama.

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And so she was just talking about how the the vetting,
mechanism for the Secret Service is so
fierce.
Hi, Katie.
Hi, Katie.
That it's so hardcore
because they understand, like, one person
can take down a whole operation,
it can mess up stuff, and people's lives are at stake. And so you can't have, you know, you know, negative Nellie over here complaining about x, y, or z, you know? And so she was very much

(55:33):
like, if I could get that into people's heads, you know, because Lewis was asking, like, the 3 most important things that she got out. 1 was just like the people that are around you
influence you so much, so, so, so much, you know? It doesn't mean you're not gonna love your mom and dad. It doesn't mean you're not gonna have love for these folks if you're shifting gears into a new crew,

(55:54):
but
you have to be, like,
so discerning
because of the energy, like, they're vampires, you know, and and they don't even mean it sometimes. Like, I have people in my life who I love dearly, and I'm like,
we have to have small doses,
you know, of these folks because
it's just like, oh, I get Velcroed into their nonsense, and I'm like, fuck. That took me 3 hours to kinda take a shower

(56:19):
and clean myself.
You know, that's like a good point because right off the top, you said,
you said
how you love the Bitcoin space because it's noncompetitive.
And, you know, my friend Katie that she lives in Victoria, so we we connected really for the first time in person, like, for a long amount of time. We've only ever met one time other in person, and we met synchronistically

(56:41):
online.
Nice. But she's like the perfect that's a perfect example of how, like,
we're both like Capricorns, and so we're both ambitious and especially in business. And, you know, I didn't even feel for a second like, oh, I don't want her in this space because, like, I know
that everyone like, it's the it's really the first time, and I know I'm generalizing.

(57:03):
I'm sure that we're human and we can all have moments of, like, jealousy or whatever it is, but I'm not talking about being human. I'm talking about, like, genuinely wanting
the thriving and success of everyone because we recognize that as the thriving and success for our world. Yeah. And Bitcoin
is full of that. Like, I have been in many spaces entrepreneurship

(57:24):
wise, women wise, women focus spaces and I have never felt
like the same retro
like, what is it, reciprocity?
Reciprocity. Reciprocity. Yeah. Reciprocity.
Mhmm. That like I because I've always wanted that success for others, but I, for the first time, feel it back.

(57:44):
Yes. Oh, wow. I love hearing that, Heather. Oh my gosh. Because Like, seriously, I'm just like I'm outing myself maybe of just, like, how I feel about lots of spaces I've been in. Yeah. But it's like it's like for the first time, I feel like I knew I needed to receive, but now I can actually

(58:06):
receive. And it's authentic
Yeah. Receiving. It's not like there's something like, oh, you owe me something or I did you a favor. It's I completely resonate with that. It's true because I feel like there's so many people in this space, you know, and I'm the same way. I'm like the old I am a spiritual cheerleader. Like, I am like, rah, rah, let's go. You can do it. Here we go. La la la. Like, that's my jam. I love it. Being a DJ, I get to do that, you know, when I'm a sailing charter boat person, when I do women's groups, when I do circles. Yeah. It's wonderful. But, like,

(58:37):
having that reciprocity, like you just said,
just because it's just and because you're fucking awesome too. You deserve it and you've earned it, but it's like Yeah. It's so it's such a cool feeling. You know? Because, like, I noticed that kicking in where I was like, oh, do I have to be cautious?
Because, like, I had I've had people, like, just steal parts of my business or, you know, like, that I was, like, wanting to work together to uplift.

(59:03):
And then I realized, like, well, one, I am in my I'm being more my authentic self, so I have people in my life that, like, love me for me.
Yeah. And so I I do take responsibility
for what I was part of creating because I was also programmed in this kind of, like, well, people pleasing, kinda scratch my back, I'll scratch your back fiat business model.

(59:25):
Yeah. So I take responsibility for that. And then once I unhypnotize
myself from that,
now I have people in my life that not only love me for me, and I don't have to put any sort of a mask or any kind of a thing on, but not only that, it's like, we want the success for each other.
Totally. Well and and that's the game theory, obviously, of Bitcoin. Right? And so I think it's changed our consciousness

(59:51):
because when Bitcoin wins, we all win. Right? And so when we're all moving that
that that boulder forward, it's really important. I think a lot of people
are used to the zero sum game of sports or a business and it's kinda like, oh, if if I'm gonna take these customers away, that means you don't get any kind of thing. And it's like, no. The more people, like our all of our goals, I think, as Bitcoiners and to me, certainly, and I know you too as a healer and a love warrior, it's like we want everybody lit up, activated, and we want everybody using Bitcoin, and we want everybody

(01:00:21):
living their highest unhypnotized
love warrior selves. Right? And so it's not about,
you know,
us versus them. It's just like it's a big giant super we, you know, and and I think that's very, you know and it's not to say that there's not competition in business
because there should be,
but it should be because we're all trying to do the best we can, not because we're trying to squash someone else and hurt them all. You know? Us better.

(01:00:48):
Yeah. You know, it makes us better, not
not, like,
worse. No. I think that's like an odd that's such a great conversation.
It's yeah. It's it's it's so important. And I know, unfortunately, I think a lot of it's fiat. It's a fiat operating system. Right? And so let's talk about number 5. So Number 5. You know, relationships, we're gonna let it be sometimes, let things go and Yeah. Go with the flow and be magnetized. Conscious about who you choose to have in your life. Right? Be conscious about who you choose to have in your life. Totally. Good good stuff. And so, number 5 is, you know, we were talking about cleansing and I just said like, Oh, if you're around the wrong,

(01:01:26):
people or, you know, negative Nellies, vampires, energy vampires, sometimes it takes hours to kind of get that energy, that mood, that vibration out. And so, let's talk about cleansing as one of the 5 ways to unhypertize your mind and so we can be free. Okay. I mean, you are what you eat.

(01:01:47):
So
I am definitely gonna be doing some episodes about this on the podcast, like food, medicine,
like, actually what you eat
and what you consume in your body, and then, of course,
cleansing yourself of,
oh, we could just get into so much. But just, like, of, like, the

(01:02:10):
toxicity in the sense of, like,
what you might believing about yourself or life
that's making you feel bad.
Right? Cleansing our old beliefs
that are holding us down. That's so I am. Oh my god.
Because even if we believe, like, people don't want my success, that's like toxicity.

(01:02:31):
It is. It's a program.
It is. Every little belief, everything that we say is code. It's little codes that we're putting in, you know, whether they're getting stored back here in our subconscious or wherever the subconscious lives,
or if it's at the top of mind.
And, like, I important. Yeah. And I do have to say emotions because
I think that the best way to cleanse is, like, just let yourself feel how you feel,

(01:02:56):
but just really be cautious about, like, what you're deciding about how you feel
and instead try to with as
much non judgment. And this is like a tip only usually my clients, you know, really get. But
this is, like, number one tip for, like, any new client that I have, which is just
as much as you can, let yourself feel how you feel.

(01:03:18):
Even if your mind starts to judge it or try to find out why, just come back to feeling how you feel.
Just let yourself feel. Because if you let yourself feel, you're you'll cleanse.
You know? You won't be running from your feelings. You won't be trying to numb your feelings. You won't be trying to think, oh my god. I gotta do better. I gotta hustle. I should've did this. I should've did that. I gotta figure out this. I've gotta learn this. I have to do all of these things before I can buy Bitcoin.

(01:03:42):
You know?
Because this is the way that our stressed mind works. We
pile on. Like, I'll have so many people say, Heather,
help me do this, this, and this so then I can lose weight. And I said, well, what if you could just lose weight without doing all of those things? Would you be okay with that?

(01:04:03):
They're like, really? Yeah. So that's the first on hypnosis
we gotta do. Right? Stop thinking. We gotta do all these things.
And so I think cleansing, if you're doing it on your own, especially, it's just let your feelings
exist.
Yeah. Let yourself feel,

(01:04:23):
and you'll get your own wisdom.
Let yourself feel to heal, baby. Reveal the feel to heal. That's what I say. And so it's a No way. It's look. A lot of times we do we spend so much time
trying to avoid, like, you know, the avoidant attachment style and the avoidant behavior with a lot of people
is very prominent, you know, and it's just

(01:04:46):
that's a coping mechanism, you know? It's a coping mechanism, like, Uh-oh,
I don't have time to feel emotional today because I've got a big meeting or I got to do this, whatever. And it's like
some of us, we just keep putting that under the rug and under the rug and under the rug and then all of a sudden, the rug is really big and then we snap and we have this big giant life shit shows, you know? And so it's very important to do maintenance regularly. It's not like, oh, I'm gonna do my yearly cleanse. It's like, no. You have a daily practice of energy hygiene, I like to call it. Like That's a good way to say it. We all brush our teeth every day. Like, why wouldn't you brush your your energy and your negativity and the things that might be, you know, stuck on you like a little spur, a little sticker pricker thing when you go hiking?

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Like, you don't wanna let those things accumulate
because it does start to turn into this bigger, bigger problem that it could have just gotten handled
as if you were brushing your teeth each day.
You know? And so Yeah.
Yeah. One of my favorite areas that I've been doing a ton of work in right now is the psychosomatic,
like, the metaphysical reasons behind physical illnesses.

(01:05:51):
Mhmm.
And I've been saying, like, how many people get upset at me for suggesting it's possible. Like, it's crazy.
Louise Hay. Hello. I mean, her whole thing. You know, Louise Hay? Yeah. Of course. That's like,
yeah. That's, like, where it's began. You know, Louise Hay was such a
trailblazer.
That's why I love that self healing,

(01:06:12):
conversation, and that's actually what I'm gonna bring
more to the panel at the conference in Calgary. Yeah. It's a perfect segue. Let's go to the Sovereign Minds Conference.
Well, this is exactly what I'm gonna bring to the panel. I shouldn't say exactly, but this that's an element.
Cool. Of, like, what I'm gonna bring to my panel, but also that understanding

(01:06:34):
of how the mind works so that
your freedom like, while Bitcoin, of course, and different healing modalities can give you freedom,
freedom really starts in the mind. Yep.
And part of
mind, the rest will follow.
We're like out of this era.

(01:06:54):
And well, and, like, that whole
you can heal yourself. Like, Louise, hey, you know, heal your life.
Yep. And this idea that, like, the wisdom of your symptoms
and your conditions is the direct door to your healing.
Yeah.
Like, when we start to look at symptoms as, like, healing reactions or healing

(01:07:17):
information
for healing
Yeah. It becomes less about diagnosis
and disease
and more about,
I mean, just perfect health.
Well, you think about, like, you don't have, like, a giant panic attack when the check engine light comes on on your dashboard. You're like, oh, something's going on. I need to pay attention.

(01:07:38):
I need to give this this system here, this car system some attention and we need to go figure something out and give it,
like, supplement something or get rid of something or whatever we have to do. And so, there's not some like, oh, no, the car, we gotta get rid of it. Like, it's damaged forever. No. No. We're gonna Or like the thing. Gonna have this problem forever.

(01:08:00):
Totally. No. It's like, no. It's it's fixable. So I think, yeah, it's it's such a good point. So let's talk about Sovereign Minds Conference a little bit. I mean, I'll share the screen. About it. And thank you so much. Yeah. Just give a little time because it's happening in this, like, high vibe in
Calgary.
You know? And, I mean, it really does bring together visionaries

(01:08:21):
and thought leaders who are pushing boundaries in finance, health,
consciousness, and autonomy.
There's tons of great speakers. You can definitely keep scrolling. We've got, like, some Canadian
legends on these panels.
And Wow. Yeah.
I know. This is great. Oh my gosh. You guys Yeah. Like, we we're just so pleased with the lineup.

(01:08:43):
Yeah. And we do. We have people, like, in the freedom,
you know, in the freedom community, like Marty up north or Corey Morgan, and then we've also got the Bitcoiners like Dave Bradley and Ben Perrin and Art.
And then and Dakota, the farming. He was on one of my episodes too, farming and healing that was really well received.

(01:09:04):
David Harter is one of he's psychedelics,
and there's a whole psychedelic panel.
And just, like, really look at, you know, how
all of these transformative forces are reshaping
humanity and society, like,
at
the at the innate or, like, intrinsic
level of being.

(01:09:26):
It's so, so important. And I love gosh. I wish I could come up and do this. That's
right. Ultra FOMO here.
It's so cool. I know we had a regenerative
a sovereignty summit a couple weeks ago at,
our friend Ajiray's 100 Acre Yellow Barn Farm here. And I think it's just such an important thing that a lot of people don't really understand.

(01:09:49):
Like,
once you start falling down the the rabbit hole, obviously, of Bitcoin as we talked about, it's very,
you know,
you
all these new things start to show themselves to, like, oh,
I guess I gotta look at this thing here and, Oh, oops, the veil has been removed over here on this system. And it's all about systems, you know, I think. And so, when we're looking at it at that lens,

(01:10:14):
you know, the health and wellness system has been, you know, co opted by big, you know, chemical companies. You know? They're not there trying to heal you. There's a conveyor belt of let's spray the food. Let's give the people cancer. Let's give them this thing, and let's keep rinsing. Then take away the symptoms so they don't really realize the cause.

(01:10:35):
And you know what? This conference is actually really affordable. It's only $99
a ticket, but anyone who wants can use my promo code for 40%
off.
Oh, what was your promo code? Hypnotized.
Unhypnotized
here. Okay. Cool. Of course, it's unhypnotized.
So I think I can get 40% off, which is, like or it was already affordable at $99,

(01:11:00):
and that's Canadian.
So that's, like, nothing in the world. No. That's great.
I think it's isn't it great though? You think about, like, nobody needs permission to go. We need to go check with the CEO of Bitcoin to do a conference or to do the thing. It's like everybody's like, here's an idea. Let's go do the thing. And I love it because everyone's not gonna go to a Bitcoin conference, but they might go to a Sovereign Minds conference.

(01:11:24):
You know what I mean? And so that was, I think, really fun because you're cross pollinating. Same thing. Everyone's not going to a Bitcoin for podcasters conference, but they might lots of people are going to podcasting conferences or music music conferences or wellness things. And so perfect,
you're right. Like, because a person that's already seen through, like, the the veil of the medical industrial complex, a person that's already seen through the veil of

(01:11:52):
of of
I don't know. There's so many areas. Political systems. Political systems. Food.
Like, they're, in my opinion, just like they're it's just like they're waiting for Bitcoin.
They're primed for this. Yeah. Or like the homeschoolers. They're just like, they're just like, oh, we don't care with anything. Bitcoin like I am.

(01:12:15):
Get that infatuation
honeymoon going, girl. That's my oxytocin.
Oh my god. I love it. I wanna bring up your website now too, Heather, because your website is beautiful.
And my website, I it really is just,
I love it. Look at how beautiful and radiant you are. Wonderful. Tell people, like, what could they get from working with you and going with Hypno Heading? I mean, the main thing is probably to just, like,

(01:12:42):
have access to the things that I'm doing sort of even outside of my one to one work because
Mhmm. I do do consults for 1 to 1, but it's pretty limited space, to be honest. And Yeah. And I do do, like, training and, like, if practitioners really wanna learn how to work more in the subconscious or, you know, aligned with that way of

(01:13:06):
holding transformational
space, like,
really a like, sovereign
transformational space. That's the new stuff I'm gonna be doing. So the main thing is to just, like, get on my email list
because,
yeah, I'm sure that there's somewhere on there, but it's not super set up for this. Like, this is kind of the new stuff I'm doing, but, like, yeah, you could sign up and get a free resource pack here and, like, start to be on my list,

(01:13:38):
because that's, to me, the future of hypnotherapy, but it's also just the future of healing,
which is really conscientiously
holding transformational
space
to
like, for yourself
also, but, like,
for others.
You know? Because I really think if as practitioners, change makers, light workers,

(01:14:02):
you go through the door of yourself, like, you go through the door of your own
self,
you're you're much more equipped
to hold that space for other people.
Oh, and there is an audio there too. That's probably the best thing to sign up for because I'm gonna make one
for the from the Bitcoin for the Bitcoiners too, and I'll send it out to that list.

(01:14:25):
Oh. And I do have, like, a special Bitcoin list, but if someone wants to be on that, it's better if they just DM me or, yeah, DM me their email because it's
just for the Bitcoiners and the Un Hypnotized
podcast.
Yeah. Amazing. I love it.
Yeah. So everyone listening, if you're not watching this, go to hypnoheather.com,

(01:14:45):
and you can find that. And then sovereignminds.ca
is where the,
you guys can sign up for the conference and check that out up in, Calgary on November 16th.
And then everybody can find you on x@unhypnotizedbtc
or Instagram at hypnoheather.
And your Instagram page is gorgeous. It looks really nice. Like, you've got really beautiful style. Like, it's just like when I like, it's funny because my style obviously is big and bold and super, you know, rich rainbowy colors and stuff, and yours is very I mean, yours, it's so pretty and it makes you feel

(01:15:20):
at ease. You know? There's, like, a nice ease energy, and and I love it. And,
so, yeah, it's a it's a beautiful
I always say, like, go to Instagram. Yeah. If you wanna see my my self and my style and go to x if you wanna hear my thoughts.
Yeah. If you wanna hear my sassiness. It's so true. Like, you know, it's funny because,

(01:15:41):
you know, my my kids are just like, mom, why are you on Twitter? Twitter is so negative and toxic. And it's just like,
actually,
you know, it depends on who you're subscribed to, of course, if you're just subscribed to a bunch of negative stuff,
but it's a town hall. It truly is a town square, a town hall where, you know, if you wish to start a space and have a bunch of people come up and start talking, you can do it at 3 o'clock in the morning and there's gonna be people who wanna converse about hypnotherapy

(01:16:09):
or Bitcoin or what's going on in the Middle East or the Earth or anything. And, like, you can't really do that on these other channels. You know? Instagram, you can have some live stuff, but, like, nobody's talking about,
like, the the current events and the culture and the things that people are scared to talk about. Even if you are so censored and you can't just have the same, like, authentic conversations,

(01:16:34):
now I'm with you. I I think it's so fun to just be able to
even just talk some shit.
Totally. And not feel like you're gonna get,
you know, deplatformed,
you know? And it's like, I was just on the phone yesterday with Google because I tried to run a quick ad, and they're like, the word Bitcoin can't be in anything, and you have Bitcoin on your website. So we can't do YouTube ads and we can't do Google ads. And I was like, because I have the word Bitcoin,

(01:17:05):
you know, and I kinda knew that Bitcoin is censored everywhere, but I'm just like,
that's just ridiculous, you know, especially with the mainstream here in the United States.
Like, hi. It's like BlackRock and all these company and Fidelity. Everybody's got Bitcoin. So now you're gonna we can't have that. It's just such a bizarre
it's bizarro land. But
anyway,

(01:17:26):
so any final thoughts on
the the 5 ways to unhypnotize ourselves and wrapping this up? Thank you so much for taking time, Heather. This has been
super insightful as always.
Any final words for people out there who might be struggling,
who might be a little bit intimidated
to,
you know, look for some alternative ways to to get their their mind, un hypnotized.

(01:17:50):
Yeah.
Yeah. I think number 1 is just be very gentle with yourself
because it it is hard.
It is hard when these when when,
you know, we're starting to just realize
what we thought might be true isn't true, and

(01:18:13):
a lot of the world doesn't have our best interest at heart.
And it's heartbreaking.
You know? And so I think that
if you're at that point in the journey, just be very gentle with yourself and see if you can find communities or spaces or places or people where you can feel comforted even if that comfort is from mother nature herself.

(01:18:38):
And then I think the second thing
is,
you know, being being, spending time in in silence or just even in relaxation
with yourself can really help your nervous system,
slow down, and it can give you more of, like, the connection and the wisdom to the light.

(01:18:58):
And so I guess, like, this is maybe vague, and you can probably add to this. But, you know, just seek the light.
Yeah.
Like Yeah.
Be the love and seek the light. Be the love. Yeah. To be love. You know? Love and seek the light. It's so true. And it's and it's really, really and you can microdose yourself with that. It doesn't mean you need to go do it for an hour and meditate or an hour. You know, it's like literally

(01:19:29):
for 15 seconds,
you can shift your situation. You can shift your mind. You can shift your vibe.
And then it's like, if it feels good, do it for another 15 seconds. Oh. Keep stacking that. Stack that love. Stack those good vibes. Like, we like to stack stats. Let's stack that. Yeah. Stack stats. Stack love. Join the community. Like, you have a beautiful community, don't you?

(01:19:51):
We all do. Yeah. Like, it's just like community of people that, like, help raise your vibration.
Big, big time. And, again, thank you so much, Heather. This has been, of course, always
enlightening as usual, and I'm gonna plug an event that I am doing to raise your vibration this weekend.
I am doing,

(01:20:11):
just a little small little group with maybe 10 people or so. I'm I've got room for a few more folks.
We're gonna be working on designing our love warrior code and designing a daily practice.
Because
as love warriors and light workers, it's really, really important that we have something that we can
turn to each day that will fuel us, that will cleanse us, that's in alignment with our big vision, our big mission. You know? So it's it's kinda like doing a big vision board on steroids,

(01:20:39):
doing it with people that you love, and then
now executing on it. So it's gonna be a really fun weekend, and it's free. It's a value for value. And so my only ask is that if people wanna do it, you show up, you do the work.
Give me a little feedback and review so I can keep refining it and making it better because I really wanna turn this into something that's,

(01:20:59):
I don't know how I'm gonna do this, but it's gotta be something, hopefully, at scale, possibly all value for value. We'll see how that works, but it's gonna be an experiment. And,
if you're going through a big transition in life, especially, this is perfect for you. If you're going through a breakup, if you've lost a career, if you're moving, anything, these are really great times to kinda take a moment for yourself and tune in, drop in, and, start to work on your MeHD, as I like to call it.

(01:21:26):
And so that's gonna be really cool. And then the other thing we've got coming up on November 2nd, we're gonna be doing a Bitcoin for domestic violence summit.
And this is a very important summit, and we're just starting to get some speakers to talk.
A lot of people don't know that you can use Bitcoin to escape, whether it's authoritarian regime of your government or perhaps,

(01:21:46):
a domestic situation that is unsafe. And so,
the people that we're gonna have, we're gonna
talk about,
how to use Bitcoin very safely
to get out of situations. If you're not using it right and you get caught, you could die, you know, unfortunately, if your partner is not happy with you trying to escape.
So, Linda Parker from Women in Distress is gonna be co hosting this with me, and it's gonna be a really, really cool summit. So mark your calendars, and it's gonna be great. I can put that link too. I'll put that link under our episode because we talked

(01:22:21):
you know, our the episode on our hypnotize with you, that's what we talked about. So I'll just put that link,
in that episode show notes too for anyone that just comes across it.
Mhmm. Yeah. That would be great. And, yeah, just even if it's just djvaleriebeloved.comforward/event,
it'll be there. It's easy to go. That's an easy link.

(01:22:41):
So I'm so excited. So thank you again. And,
you guys, make sure you go check out Heather at Hypno Heather. Go to the Sovereign Minds conference and use
unhypnotized
as your code and get 40% off and make sure you go have some fun. And, and, again, thanks so much, Heather, for all the work you're doing. I'm so happy to know you. And thanks again, Dave Bradley. Woo hoo.

(01:23:02):
And, everybody who's listening,
keep rocking and keep breathing. Keep focusing on that light in the future. Remember, be the light, be the love, and,
let's do this together. So until next time, everyone. Peace, love, and warm aloha. Woo hoo. Thanks.

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