June 18, 2025 • 64 mins
A mother of two is found dead in her bed with a gunshot wound to the head. Her seven-year-old son, standing tearfully on a neighbor's doorstep, utters words that would chill anyone to the bone: "He's the one that killed my mom."
The story of Jennifer Corbin's death begins as a suspected suicide but unravels into something far more sinister. The gun's position defies physics. The divorce papers beneath her body seem staged. Her husband, respected dentist Dr. Bart Corbin, shows more irritation than grief when questioned about his wife's death.
Join us for Part One of a two-part series, as we examine a predator hiding in plain sight, and the resilience of those determined to expose the truth.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Amanda Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello, how are you Thriving, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thriving in your summer vacay.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Meanwhile we're waiting for a freaking tornado.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, I know.
So today was the first day ofmy summer break where I actually
didn't have anywhere to go oranywhere to be or anything to do
, which was really nice, exceptit rained all day, which
whatever but yeah, so that wasnice.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So it's finally sinking in not quite, yet still
feels like a vacation, yeah yeahyeah, well, um, for me it's
life as usual, uh sorry aboutthe exception that, yeah,
yesterday was father's day.
Shout out to all the father andfather figures out there hey
(00:54):
shout out to you dads we loveyou guys so we spent father's
day um sheltering in place ohyeah it's not funny at all no,
no, there was a, there was a, agunman on the loose, and
I mean, I'm sure you guys haveheard about it, right yeah, and
(01:14):
it's probably gonna be old newsby the time people hear this,
but any who's all um that kindof put a uh of light on our our
day, but um, it could have been.
You know, I, you know prayersto the families that are
affected and violence is neverthe answer.
Um, and also it was a learningopportunity for my daughter, who
(01:34):
was really interested in thefifty thousand dollar, you know,
prize if you get someinformation that led to the
arrest of this arsehole.
She was like, listen, we have abig tree house in our yard.
He's in the area If he.
You know what if we make itlook super attractive.
And then like, do we have tosplit the money if someone else
(01:56):
has a tip?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
She's like listen, let's lure him to our tree house
, because this is an immaculatehiding spot, sir, and then I can
get some money.
Oh my god, yeah, I wonder ifthe gal that actually like saw
him down by the culvert orwhatever.
I wonder if she will get fiftythousand dollars I hope so.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I hope so too.
I mean first of all just forthe trauma of having to see I
know something like this.
But also I love that there wasa basically it was a drone over
him and he just surrendered whenhe saw the drone and nobody got
hurt.
Yeah, because I was thinking,you know, he had written this
note to his housemate about howhe was gonna die and I was
(02:37):
thinking, oh goodness, death bycops, somebody's gonna get hurt,
somebody else is to get hurt,because obviously we lost two
lawmakers tragically over this.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So, um, yeah, he's in custody um, this is just my own
opinion, that I'm gonna sayquick and we're gonna move on.
Um, wow, his roommate surelikes to talk to the press.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow yeah, I mean we all have our time in the
limelight.
That's not a time that I wouldrevel in necessarily but this is
I'm telling you this when I wasactually kicked out of court on
judge judy, so I'm just gonnaleave everyone with that little
tidbit.
L?
Um I'm not gonna say any more.
(03:21):
Listen, that'll be a patreon.
We'll talk more about how youcan find me on Judge Judy
getting kicked out of thecourtroom.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Little Easter egg for you guys.
Right, I should find a clip ofthat and put it on our social
media.
Just kidding, I won't do thatto you.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, no, please don't put the link on there.
We need some incentive forpeople to see me in the most
shameful moment of my life onpublic television.
Yes, it's worth it.
Um so, do we have anycorrections for your episode?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I feel like I don't think, so I did on your episodes
oh my gosh, stop.
No right, I had um yogurt andsnowmobiling, um.
I did have a lot of peoplereach out and say that they were
laughing along with us and thatit was really fun.
Like fun for like a not a greatthing, right, obviously we're
(04:18):
talking about people that werehurt and taken advantage of and
whatever, but but yeah, peoplewere like, well, I was laughing
along with you guys.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And you were laughing at him, not with him.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I listened to it back also and I started laughing
again so hard.
That was a really fun one.
I mean, yeah, to make fun ofhim.
What a doozy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I mean, what a target .
He made it easy for us woohooget naked just just that
reporter's tone when she waslike then she took a look at him
, she was like holy hell she'slike, I'm like, I spiraled my
eyeballs listen to episode 20.
(05:03):
Um, if you haven't already,it's a hoot and a half.
Um, yeah, hold on to your pantsfor that one.
Um, okay, because someone elsedid episode 20.
We are now at episode 21.
We are old enough to drink oh,cheers clink, clink clink, clink
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A little glass, oh, and I've gotmy aquafina there's miss pure
(05:28):
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champagne glass, because ifanything I am.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
If I had a glass of wine while I was doing this, I'd
have to pee like three timeswell, anyway, here I am being
classy, um so cheers to classy.
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So today we are going to betalking about another deadly
dentist.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh yeah, I forgot we were going back to dentistry,
lol.
Next week we're not, though.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Do you guys, do you watch or have you watched
Seinfeld?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, like not enough to quote it or anything.
Have I seen the show yet?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Have you ever watched the episode about the dentist?
No, oh, jerry was accused ofbeing anti-dentite oh wow.
Well, I'm on summer break, so Ican try and find it, uh okay,
yeah, no, it's super funny, butlike jerry was mad that this
dentist converted to judaism forthe jokes, it's a good episode
(07:45):
anyway.
Um, and then the dentistaccused jerry of being
anti-dentite, which I I didn't.
You know, that's a thing, it'sa made-up thing, but we're not
anti-dentite folks, no, we just.
We just, you know, we lovedentistry.
Yeah, but there is a.
Okay, the primary source fortoday's episode is a book by ann
(08:06):
rule.
Ever heard of her?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
yeah, once or twice stranger in the dark.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, so this book is entitled too late, to say
goodbye.
Um, and there are, um.
There are other sources thatwill be listed in our show notes
.
Um, the trigger warning forthis episode is that there are
going to be mentions of domesticabuse.
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Thank you.
I mean thank you for thewarning, I know.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
On December 4th 2004, in a quiet and well-to-do
neighborhood in Gwinnett County,georgia, a couple named Kelly
Kamo and her husband Steve wereasleep in bed.
It was 7.30 in the morning whenthey awoke to a frantic
knocking at the front door.
Kelly flew down the stairs inher bathrobe in a panic, sensing
the desperation in the knocks.
(08:54):
She discovered little DaltonCorbin, seven years old, sobbing
in his pajamas on her step.
Dalton lived across the streetwith his little brother dylan
and their parents, jen and bartcorbin.
Kelly ushered him into thehouse and folded him in her arms
.
What's wrong, honey, she asked.
Dalton was so upset he hadtrouble choking the words out
(09:18):
there's something wrong with mymom.
Oh my gosh, do you know thisstory?
no, the story okay well, I don'tknow, not yet I think they made
a lifetime movie about it too,so some people may have heard
about it, but I haven't watchedthe movie.
But anyway, kelly felt herheart skip a beat and her
stomach sank with dread.
She and jen were friends andshe knew that jen and bart had
(09:40):
been going through a difficultpatch in their marriage.
She followed dalton across thestreet to the Corbin's house.
Even her intuitive sense ofdread couldn't have prepared her
for what she found in thefamily's master bedroom Jen
lying on her stomach diagonallyacross the four-poster bed, limp
and unmoving blood drippingfrom her nose and her head.
(10:01):
Her platinum blonde, curly hairwas stained red with blood.
She wore only a nightgown withstraps fastened by safety pins.
Kelly didn't need to check forpulse.
It was evident that her friendwas dead.
Kelly immediately grabbedDalton and plucked five-year-old
Dylan from his bed.
She asked Dalton where thefamily phone was, and he pointed
(10:21):
to the cordless phone on theirdining table.
Dalton where the family phonewas, and he pointed to the
cordless phone on their diningtable.
Dalton said that he'd alreadytried to call 911 with it, but
that it didn't work.
Kelly tried as well and thebattery was dead.
The three ran across the streetand called 911 from the Camo's
house.
(10:42):
Investigators discovered agunshot wound to the back of
jen's head, just behind her ear.
The gun was next to heroutstretched right arm, about
three to four inches away fromher fingers, and, interestingly,
the barrel of the gun waspartially covered by the
bedspread on the nightstand.
(11:03):
They noticed an open bottle ofwine and an almost empty glass.
As they examined the bed, theyrealized that there were some
papers underneath Jen's body.
Those papers were laterdiscovered to be divorce papers.
There didn't seem to be anysigns of forced entry to the
house, no defensive wounds onthe victim's body, no signs of
(11:23):
burglary and no indications ofsexual assault.
The investigator's firstconclusion was that this was a
suicide, but there were a fewissues with this assumption.
First of all, the position ofthe gunshot wound posed an
awkward angle for aself-inflicted shot.
And then there was location ofthe gun.
How likely was it that it wouldland underneath the covers if
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Jen had shot herself?
This seemed to defy gravity,and the sad part is that there
was an unlikelihood that Jenwould have killed herself in a
shabby pinned together nightgown.
So obviously this is not a hardand fast rule, but women tend
to not shoot themselves and, atthe very least, if they do,
they're going to think about howthey'll look when their bodies
are found, not for vain reasons,but because they don't want to
(12:06):
leave a mess or traumatize theperson who finds them any more
than they absolutely have to,which is sadly why a lot of
suicides occur in hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh my gosh, I know this is so morbid I always like
wonder, like, oh, I wonder ifthere's ever okay, never mind
yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
When you're in a hotel room, is this one?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
yeah, like if, like, there's like some swanky
business ever going on in there,and then I would never, I've
never thought like oh no, Iwonder if this has happened and
I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's not like they have to disclose it to you.
I know, oh god, I know I'mspoiling a lot of things for a
lot of people um your upstairs.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Neighbors actually aren't loud, that's just ricky
um ricky the ghost um yeah, okay, well, okay, sorry, oh no, it's
okay.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Um, we need a little comic relief now and again with
this tough subject material.
Um, jen's face was covered inblood.
She wore a ratty nightgown andno makeup.
Would she have wanted her twolittle boys to find her in this
condition?
Not likely.
This looks staged to look likea suicide.
The wine, the divorce papers onthe bed.
(13:18):
And then there was the 911 call.
During the call, the dispatcherhad asked Kelly to put Dalton
on the phone.
The dispatcher asked if therewas anything in the house
besides him, his mom and hisyounger brother.
Dalton was matter-of-fact yes,my dad was home.
He said he's the one thatkilled my mom.
When questioned further, hestated he didn't actually see or
(13:40):
hear it, but that he knew itwas true because of the way his
dad had been acting recently,always mad and yelling at his
mom.
Csi swabbed Jen's hands to testfor gunshot residue and
detectives immediately set outto track down Jen's husband, dr
Bart Corbin.
Dds Bart was nowhere to befound.
Jen's devastated family triedto reach out to him to help
(14:02):
provide support in absorbingthis terrible news.
When he was unable to belocated, jen's sister, heather,
and her husband called Bart'syounger brother, bobby.
Bobby's tone was weird.
It was unnatural.
When the family members askedif Bart was with him, he stated
yes.
But when they said, oh okay,well, are you on your way over,
(14:24):
like to get the boys?
He stayed silent.
No response.
Meanwhile, bart's traumatizedlittle boys, dylan and Dalton,
were still at the Camo's houseacross the street.
Like what the hell, bart?
For real, bart, I don't know.
You don't want to check on yourtraumatized kids.
Real quick, my dude.
You know, since they just foundtheir dead mother's body in
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their home, I mean nothing, sushere.
Not a happy Father's Day to you, bart, you dick.
This is how an innocent husbandbehaves when his wife is shot
to death.
Mm-hmm, me thinks not.
Since Bart showed no interestwhatsoever in being with his
boys on the scariest and mosttraumatic day of their lives,
jen's sister, heather went topick them up herself.
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Gwinnett County police finallygot a hold of Bart at his
brother Bobby's place, but Bartrefused to talk to the police
directly.
Instead, he made them play aridiculous game of phone tag,
with Bobby acting as theintermediary.
Bart, they need you to come infor an interview, etc.
Big stinking coward that he isBart's brother.
(15:25):
I know it's ridiculous.
What do we need?
Bart's brother, bobby, providedan alibi for Bart, stating that
the two of them had been outdrinking the night before, so
Bart had come over to Bobby'splace to sleep it off, and that
was all they would say about it.
No more questions answered.
Thank you very much.
Meanwhile, jen's family wasadamant that she would never
(15:49):
have taken her life, let alonein a situation where the boys
would be the ones to find hernot in a million years.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
A mom would never.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, can you imagine.
No, she had to have beenmurdered.
Eventually, bart showed up atthe police station with a lawyer
in tow for his interview.
Looking extremely put out, herewas a man who just lost his
wife, the mother of his children, but he was just irritated.
Police swabbed his hands forgunshot residue, knowing he had
(16:19):
plenty of time to wash themthoroughly by that time, but
they did it anyway.
But let's put a pin on theinvestigation for now and let's
learn more about the peoplebehind the story Jen and Bart
Corbin.
This is definitely a case withunexpected twists and turns.
We love that, right.
Bart Corbin grew up in the 60sin a typical middle-class
(16:41):
southern family.
He had two brothers, afraternal twin, brad, and a
younger brother, bobby.
There's so many b's brad, bobbyand bart bobby um bart got along
best I'm still using thealliteration here, folks bart
got along best with bobby.
They were both extroverted andpopular, while brad was more
(17:03):
reserved.
And rules theory was that aparticular sex ed class had a
formative effect on bart corbin,helping to shape help you, I
know, wait till you hear this.
She felt this helped to shapethe view of women that he'd
carry on with him for the restof his life.
Oh yeah, so bart had this.
Um, okay, you want to?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
hear it.
Sex ed class was reallyimpactful for him.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Got it he had tell me how you feel about this.
So he had this real southernconservative man as his teacher
and that told the boys in theclass look, girls don't enjoy
sex, they hate it.
So, oh, if you're a considerateboyfriend, you're never gonna
try to talk them into it,because they hate it like poison
.
So have mercy on the poorthings, okay oh my gosh, what.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Okay, like a teacher these days could and would never
so yikes.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I mean, the teacher was very close to an important
conversation about waiting aboutconsent, but he made it so
weird and almost traumatizing.
So, after this, bart was laserfocused on ignoring sex and
impressing his dad about sports,because his dad was super
sports focused and Bart wasembarking on a football career
(18:18):
because he was 6'3 and 240pounds.
If he'd stuck with it heprobably could have played for a
small university, but hedecided he wanted to attend the
University of Georgia in Athens.
He walked on the field duringhis freshman and sophomore years
, but he ended up having to dropfootball because he couldn't
keep up with the rigorouspractice schedule and study at
the same time.
(18:38):
So, born in Gwinnett, georgia,jennifer Barber grew up tall,
statuesque and full of energy,one of those people who stand
out from the crowd everywherethey go.
She was a high achiever and yetdown to earth she was close
with her family, including herparents and her two sisters
Heather.
Heather was her younger sisterand Rial was her older sister.
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Jen was like her mom.
She was creative and passionateabout art.
She got a degree from SCAD,which is an unfortunate nickname
because it stands for theSavannah college of art and
design, but it just sounds likea scab, I don't know, but Jen
was so good at so many things itwas difficult for her to settle
on a career choice.
I will say I go by Jenna and Ispell my name J-E-N-N-E and Jen
(19:26):
Barber spells her name J-E-N-N,and so I had to keep correcting
spell check during this, and theone that I forgot to check
until the very last minute wasJenna was good at so many things
.
Oh well, it's true.
Oh wait, no, I can't say thatso, but Jen was so good at many
(19:48):
things that it was difficult forher to settle on a career.
So she attended nursing schoolfor a while after graduating and
then landed a job as abartender at an oyster bar,
which is weird because I alsohave been a bartender at an
oyster bar.
Wow, I know, I hope you don'tend up moided.
No, me too.
Well, you know what.
I've lived a good life.
(20:15):
I've been there done that I feellike you know what, but but
unfortunately Okay what?
No, we're digressing.
I obviously am not going to getmoited.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So Jen's at the oyster bar making tips.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, she likes it.
She was 25.
Yeah, she was only 25.
She wanted to enjoy life andshe liked working at the oyster
bar.
Am I going to have to cut someof that out?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I think I probably will.
Oh well, I've lived a good life, so fuck it so fucking come and
murder me people you're like.
Invitations on the door maydisturb what?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
what's wrong with me?
What is wrong with me I?
What is wrong with me?
I need my head checked.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Did you have therapy today?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I did and I had therapy today.
What the hell's wrong with mytherapist?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You need to schedule another appointment.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I can't.
Oh man, oh man.
Yeah, that's going to getcoming on for it.
Okay, all right, she was 25.
She wanted to enjoy life andshe liked working at the Oyster
Bar.
She was famous in town for herkick-ass white.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Russians Dessert in a glass.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I love that stuff so good.
It was at the Oyster Bar thatJen met 31-year-old Bart Corbin.
Bart's brother, Bobby, workedat the same restaurant as well,
and Bobby introduced Jen to hisbrother Bart.
By then it was 1995, and he hadgraduated from dental school
and he was now Dr Bart CorbinDoctor.
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Dr Bart Jen found Bart a talldrink of water.
He was taller than her, whichwas difficult to find since she
was a tall lady.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He was good looking, well educated, well off and well
dressed.
Wow, Just very well to do allaround All the wells.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
He worked out regularly and he was a member of
Mensa, which some would say,wow, super smart, others would
say, wow, serial killer.
Um, I don't know, take yourpick.
There's a.
There's a nice smattering ofeach in mensa, but anyway he was
a catch, and at the beginningof their relationship he laid
the romance on with a shovel.
He love bombed the heck out ofjen.
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It worked.
He took her to a conference inItaly not long after they began
dating, so romantic.
Meanwhile, neither Jen nor hisfamily knew that Bart was
secretly seeing other women,including one who was 20 years
his senior and his officesecretary Cliché much His.
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His office secretary was, bythe way, married with kids.
Of course she was, so perhapsdr corbin wasn't as besotted
with jen as he appeared inpublic.
Shortly after their trip toitaly, jen announced to her
family that she was pregnant.
Oh shit.
She said that she and bart hadtalked about it and planned to
get married and raise the childtogether.
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The wedding was hastily planned, yet it was still a beautiful
occasion.
There was a minor fly in theointment, though.
Jen noticed that bart spent alot more money on his wedding
ring than he did on hers.
What weird.
You ever heard that before?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
no, my husband wears silicone wedding bands jen's
ring was pretty but simple.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Bart's was set with big diamonds interesting, what
an ass.
When she mentioned it to him,he said ah well, I have an image
to maintain now that I'mstarting my dental practice.
People expect it and I put inmy notes insert derisive
snorting here.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I mean, yeah, that's interesting, but if you're also
trying to like keep up with thisfacade in public, then wouldn't
you want your wife to have a?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
big old shiny rock too.
Yeah, like what the hell Bart.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Because now you just look like a narcissistic
douchebag.
Oh wait, but his wife was neveraround because he's too busy
sleeping with his secretary Ithink you're getting the picture
here I've known a guy like thisonce.
I'm so sorry to hear that um,also this has shades of um
what's her toes?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
the mercedes car gal clara, I can't clara, yeah yeah,
yeah, shades of clara, there'shubby yeah so after um the
corbin's were married, theymoved to beaufort, georgia,
georgia, sweet georgia, georgia,where bart opened up his own
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practice.
They were all set to have theirbaby and start life as a brand
new family.
Brad continued hisextracurricular activities.
however, one of his girlfriendsadvised Bart that he should
marry Jen when he found out shewas pregnant, the girlfriend,
which was the married one,attended their wedding, and
their families would sometimeshang out together.
(25:24):
This affair went on for decades.
Yikes, did jen know this?
No, another thing jen didn'trealize was that bart was hardly
at the top of his class.
Of course he wasn't Dumb.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's exactly why he had to stop football, because
if you like, when you read thatlike to focus on his studies, I
was like good for him to focuson your studies, but it's kind
of one of those like if youwanted to, you would things Like
you could have done both, butyou didn't have the drive, so
I'm not shocked you weren't atthe top of your class barked.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, when it doesn't serve him anymore, it's not
worth the effort, right?
That's the purpose, like beyondwhat normal people do.
So, all right, I didn't putthis in the warning, but I
probably should have.
It's a warning about dentists,not to be anti-dentite, but if
you have a phobia of dentistsyou might want to skip ahead
like 30 seconds.
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Most dentists are trustworthy,excellent and essential
healthcare practitioners, butthis guy was not Okay.
So one woman saw Bart forcrowns on her front teeth.
She found Bart very reassuring.
At her first appointment.
He assured the patient that hewas skilled at placing crowns
and told her not to worry aboutanything.
So she came back for twosessions, both of which ended up
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lasting twice as long as hesaid they would.
Dr Bart was a hot mess thewhole time.
He kept getting flustered andsweaty, yelling at his hygienist
and swearing in his breath.
He appeared completely off therails.
Not a good look for aprofessional, let alone someone
rearranging your teeth.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah and like right in your face.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I know At one point literally in your mouth the poor
patient started hemorrhagingduring the procedure and choking
on her blood.
Dr Corbin just dropped his headin his hands and said he didn't
know how to stop the bleeding.
He finally said I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, what, what?
I am sorry, that's what you'regonna.
You're just gonna stop.
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Anyway, the patient what?
I know, he just was like I dude,I don't know how to stop the
bleeding, sorry, I'm sorry.
So the patient leapt out of thechair and ran out to find an
emergency dentist who of coursefixed her right up.
And then Bart had the absolutecojones to send her a bill for
two grand for this trauma.
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I cannot with this man.
So she of course disputed andcomplained about this to the
state board, and they wrote offoff the bill.
But why didn't the board?
The board didn't discipline him.
I don't understand that.
That disturbs me.
He just went on practicingincompetently anyway.
Yeah, wow, um.
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So jen was joyful in the firstfew months of her marriage to
bart.
She was so excited to be a mom,and then the love bombing
abruptly stopped.
Now that she was under hiscontrol, bart got to work on his
emotional warfare.
He picked on everything she did.
He controlled what she wore,how much makeup she put on and
told her not to paint her nails.
He got angry when she cleanedthe house when he was home,
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because it was taking time awayfrom him, but yet he expected
the house to be spotless anddinner on the table when he was
home from work.
He criticized her and calledher names, like bimbo, telling
her, oh no, that she'd never behis equal.
He liked to remind her thatalthough he'd chosen her as his
wife, he was a doctor, whichmeant that he was the superior
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being and the one in charge.
What a douchebag.
Additionally, he was anabsolute miser when it came to
money.
Jen was not allowed to spend adime without consulting him
first.
He was known to fly into atantrum over ten dollars, which
is a pittance on a dentist'ssalary.
And just in case you're for adoctor, for a doctor, and just
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in case you're still on thefence on how to feel about this
douchebag and we both chose thatword and I think it's apropos
we're the same Jen had a sweetold yellow lab named Sebastian.
That's so cute.
I know Sebastian had been herdog for years before she ever
met Bart and Sebastian got alongwith everyone Everyone except
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Bart.
They say dogs have a sixthsense about people.
So this is a good example ofspot on intuition.
Anytime Bart got close toSebastian, the dog would snarl
and growl, which was totally outof character for him.
Bart hated Sebastian just asmuch.
One night, not long after thewedding, jen called her parents
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in a panic.
She told her parents theyneeded to take Sebastian because
Bart would kill him if shedidn't get the dog out of the
house right away Wow Shopping.
Like a lot of people in abusiverelationships, jen found ways
to explain Bart's behavior toherself, ways to forgive him and
hope things would get better.
I've been there myself.
It's not as cut and dried as itlooks.
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And then Jen had her first child, dalton.
She loved Bart, she lovedDalton and she wanted that
family life.
Like most empaths, she learnedto read the room and avoid Bart
when he was in a mood.
Like any situation, as I said,life isn't black and white.
They had good times.
They got a houseboat which theydocked next to Jen's parents'
houseboat where they would havebarbecues and swimming parties
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together.
However, tensions were high andBart resented the time that Jen
spent caring for baby Dalton.
He was impatient with the baby.
Red flags abound.
Over time, jen began to realizethat her marriage wasn't normal.
She asked her sister Heatheronce do you ever wonder what
your husband did or who he knewbefore you met him?
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Heather was like what do youmean?
You don't know that stuff aboutBart.
I know everything about myhusband.
Another time she said toHeather don't you wish you could
just give your kids cereal forbreakfast sometimes?
And once again Heather told herI do.
I do that all the time.
Jen told her that Bart wouldn'tallow it.
He said to Jen that if shewouldn't cook for their child,
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he would find a woman who would.
Oh my gosh, I mean, he's likethe perfect soap opera villain,
but without the charisma.
Nevertheless, in 1998, jen foundshe was pregnant with her
second child.
She was delighted and she hopedthat Bart was too.
She bought a silver rattle togive to Bart to let him know the
happy news.
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It did not go well.
Instead of getting excited andhugging his wife, he threw the
rattle across the room and leftin a huff.
I mean, this man may have beena dentist, but there's a rotten
cavity where his soul should be.
Shortly after Dylan's birth, hegot a vasectomy and he
continued to grow more and morepossessive of Jen's time and
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resentful of the time she spentwith their children.
Meanwhile, our dude carried onhaving multiple affairs.
While jen was a super mom, shebaked and helped out at the kids
school and drove them around toall their activities, while
bart was an unwelcome presenceat the kids little league games
because he'd scream at his kidsfrom the stands, worried about
how their performance reflectedon him.
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It's little league, what?
Yeah, brother.
Yeah, the other parents wouldroll their eyes and jen was
reflected on him.
It's Little League, yeah,brother.
The other parents would rolltheir eyes and Jen was mortified
.
But Bart may have been extracranky because and this won't
surprise you his work wasn'tgoing great.
Oh, shocking, turnover was high.
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I'm sure he was a stellar boss.
Right, he had a temper like agas leak silent at first and
then explosively volatile.
One moment he'd be calmlypolishing his tools and the next
he'd erupt hurling insults likedental instruments in a storm.
His voice, once soft-spoken forpatient reassurance, became a
weapon wielded against his staffsharp, cutting and
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unpredictable.
New hires would walk in withstarched scrubs and hopeful
smiles, only to leave weekslater with frayed nerves and
whispered warnings to the nextunfortunate replacement.
It wasn't just shouting, it waspublic berating, deliberate
humiliation, a need to assertdominance over anyone within
reach of his volcanic moods.
Some said the autoclave wasn'tthe only thing overheating in
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that office.
As the years passed, all ofthis began to take its toll on
jen and in 2003, seeking anescape from reality, she
discovered an onlinerole-playing game rpg called
everquest.
Everquest was a game where youcould team up with other
adventurers online and go onthese quests, racking up
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treasure, fighting dragons, etc.
Like in online Dungeons Dragons.
At first, jen played mainlywith her mom, who was also into
the game, but then Jen startedinteracting with other players,
especially one with the usernameSirTank she and.
SirTank started chatting abouttheir lives and before long
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their conversations shifted fromthe game to emails.
Oh no, yep.
Jen soon found out that her newfriend SirTank was a sweet,
funny, kind-hearted guy namedChris.
Jen fell hard and fast.
Chris was everything that Bartwasn't Attentive, compassionate,
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understanding and emotionallyavailable.
Soon Jen confided in Chrisabout all the issues she was
having with her marriage.
She told him about theemotional abuse.
Chris was horrified.
It turned out that Chris livedin Missouri with his sister and
he helped her raise her children, which he loved.
Jen began to daydream aboutwhat it would be like to be with
someone like Chris.
Chris seemed to be as into heras she was into him.
They began discussing a futuretogether and making plans.
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Bart began to notice a change inJen and that she wasn't fawning
all over him, trying to calmhim and falling victim to his
moods.
There was no more placating orwalking on eggshells around him
and she stopped sleeping withhim as well.
He slept in a different room.
He made her skin crawl.
Bart cringingly reached out toJen's family, complaining that
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she shunned any physicalaffection from him.
Weird, weird, gross dude.
Jen's sisters blew him off, buther mom, narda, tried to talk
to jen.
Jen told narda that bartdisgusted her and that she was
leaving him.
Jen began discussing thepossibility of moving the boys
to missouri and joining chris.
She was planning an escape.
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She obtained a credit card inher name and squirreled away a
couple thousand dollars insavings.
She bought stuff that she andChris would need when she moved
into her new place.
In early November of that yearshe finally brought up divorced
Bart, but he wheedled and beggedand convinced her to stay with
him through Christmas For theboys' sake, of course it's
always for the kids, for theboys' sake, of course.
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It's always for the kids.
A few weeks later, chrisghosted Jen.
They'd been in the habit ofemailing constantly throughout
each day, and then suddenly,radio silence.
Jen was frantic.
Finally he got back to her, butsomething had changed.
The emails were curt and hedidn't answer questions.
Jen finally let him have it,telling him that he needed to
say to her WTF was going on.
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So the truth came like aflaming dumpster fire.
Chris was really a woman namedAnita Hearn in Missouri.
Although they had been romanticon email, anita pointed out
that she'd been careful to avoidreferences to genitalia, as if
this mattered.
Okay, come on, what?
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No, you still.
Oh, you know, she was justvulnerable and she found someone
who you know.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
No wonder she was most emotionally available
because it was a woman yeah,right, then there's that of
course she was empathetic.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
She was a woman, woman, anyway, we love our guys,
but you know, often I meanmine's great, yeah, yours is
great.
So we're not painting everyonewith the same brush, but
honestly, yeah.
So Jen had felt what shethought was a real connection
with this person for months.
So she cut off contact withAnita and grieved connection
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with this person for months.
So she cut off contact withanita and grieved.
But after a while she reachedout again and she and anita
began corresponding again andshe forgave anita.
This was a surprise to everyonewho knew her because, as far as
anyone knew, she was straightand never expressed any romantic
or sexual interest in otherwomen.
After a while, the two womendiscussed sticking to jen's
original plan to leave Bart andfor Jen and the kids to join
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Anita in Missouri.
So maybe this wasn't a romanticrelationship, but they
definitely had a strong bond intheir friendship.
Author Ann Rule speculated thatJen was clinging to a way out
of her abusive nightmare of amarriage and this was like the
support that could help ithappen.
This could have been thecatalyst and I think there's
something to that.
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At any rate, jen intended toleave bart, and as any true
crime aficionado knows, that'sthe most dangerous time for a
woman when the male in therelationship knows that the
woman is leaving.
Unfortunately, that's justfacts, that's just statistics.
On thanksgiving day, bart foundout about the affair after
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rummaging around and snooping injen's purse he found a stack of
printed out emails from chris.
Oh yeah, everyone could tellsomething was eating at bart
during dinner.
And then that nightmare in anecktie punched her in the face
when everyone had left for theevening.
In front of the kids, terrified, jen packed the bag, scooped up
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the kids and went to stay withher sister Heather.
Poor little Dalton, the olderof the two.
He was so scared and hepractically velcroed himself to
Jen's side for days after this,afraid his dad would hurt her
again.
Bless his little angel heart.
And when Jen went back homeagain, she was terrified of
setting Brad off.
On December 1st Jen returnedfrom a run to find that Bart had
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gone through her personalbelongings again and stolen her
cell phone, calling all of thenumbers in her contact list.
Jen was upset and demanded herphone back, but bart denied
knowledge of what she wastalking about.
When she tried to confront himabout it.
He ran out the front door oftheir house wearing only a towel
.
What?
a treat for the neighbors thatmust have been.
Bart jumped in his car, toweland all while jen called 9-1-1.
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Bart began backing the cartowards her.
Jen tried to jump out of theway but didn't quite make it and
he backed over her foot.
He left a nasty bruise butfortunately there were no broken
bones.
But things were ugly.
Jen took the kids and escapedback to her sisters.
Heather was horrified whenDalton uncannily told her I'm
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scared that dad's going to killmommy, my heart.
Heather tried to take controlof the situation and called
Bart's brother and his mother,but nobody took it seriously.
Even Jen reassured Heather.
Oh no, bart wouldn't kill me,he wouldn't hurt his kids like
that, his kids like that.
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Jen wanted to stay away, but theproblem is that in these cases,
divorce lawyers tell you not toleave the marital home, where
it counts as abandonment, andyou lose everything.
Honestly, this has to change.
I have been in the sameposition and I know many other
women who've been in thissituation as well.
It is so dangerous andunnecessary.
We need to stop this nonsense.
At best it's unnecessarilyuncomfortable and depressing,
and at worse it's risky andtoxic and potentially
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life-threatening to requirepeople to cohabitate in order to
protect your right to your home.
So on December 2nd, since Jendidn't want to risk losing her
house, she went home again.
And on December 3rd, bart madeplans to go out drinking with
his brother, bobby and somefriends, while Jen stayed home
with the kids.
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And we know what Dalton foundthe next morning when he went to
wake his mother up forbreakfast.
From the start Jen's family knewit wasn't suicide.
They knew Jen had no interestin guns and had never owned one
herself.
But Bart owned a shotgun.
Jen had been concerned enoughabout the gun to mention it to
her parents a few days beforeshe died.
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Heather was so convinced thatBart murdered her sister.
She called 911, trying to reachthe sheriff that she knew
personally.
The autopsy put the final nailin the coffin of the suicide
theory.
First, there was no alcohol inJen's system at the time of her
death, making it pretty evidentthat the wine bottle and
half-empty glass were just props, elements of crime scene
staging.
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Plus, the ME medical examinerdetermined that the path of the
bullet had severed Jen'sbrainstem, cutting all motor
function, meaning that it wouldhave been impossible for her to
move after that, and the firstresponders found the gun under
the covers.
Somebody had to have put itthere and that somebody could
not have been Jen.
So Jen's cause of death was asingle gunshot wound and the
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manner of death was homicide.
Since Bart wasn't cooperatingwith the investigation, the
police quietly kept surveillinghim and soon learned an
interesting bit of info.
Bart had filed for divorceshortly before the murder.
As the hours and days went byafter the murder, bart continued
to distance himself from hiskids.
When Heather and her husbandasked Bart if they could come
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and pick some of the boys'clothes up and the Christmas
presents that their mom hadwrapped and put aside for the
boys, bart refused.
That kind of cruelty has achilling weight to it.
It's not just heartless, it'sdeliberately soul heartless,
it's deliberately soul-bruising.
And to make a tragic situationworse, bart insisted on
cremating Jen's remains.
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Jen's poor mother, narda,objected, sharing that she
wanted a chance to say goodbyeto her daughter.
The mortician took pity onNarda and allowed her a few
hours with Jen's body before thecremation took place.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
And afterwards Narda, begged.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Bart for the cremains so they could have a little
ceremony at home with the boys.
He grudgingly allowed this andthen quickly reminded the family
that Jen's remains were hisproperty and they needed to
return them ASAP.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Oh, okay, Sounds good bro.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Dr Carlton Hearn and his wife attended the funeral.
They had driven hours to be atJen's funeral to pay their
respects to a woman they'd nevermet in life.
As people filed out of thechurch after the service, they
expressed their sympathies toJen's mother Narda and father
Max.
Although they had never met Jenin person, they were very
familiar with Bart Corbin.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Oh, I was like who are these people?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Before we learn that it's time for a chart.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
note Chart note oh my gosh, we both dipped down
Unplanned.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Welcome to Chart Notes, the section where we
learn about what's happening inmedicine and health care.
I had to take a sip of my winefor this one, because alley cats
and amanda, alley cat amanda um, I was gonna say am I not an
alley cat?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
you are, have I not?
Speaker 1 (44:33):
earned my badge.
You have, you have.
This is an article from NewYork Times from June 6th,
written by Brian Rosenthal, andI'm just going to read you the
article, because I couldn'trewrite it, I couldn't summarize
it in any way.
You just need to hear thisarticle, you ready, you ready.
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A federal investigation found aKentucky nonprofit pushed
hospital workers towards surgerydespite signs of revival in
patients.
Four years ago, an unconsciousKentucky man began to awaken as
he was about to be removed fromlife support so that his organs
could be donated.
Even though the man cried,pulled his legs to his chest and
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shook his head, officials stilltried to move forward.
Now a federal investigation hasfound that officials of the
non-profit in charge ofcoordinating organ donations in
Kentucky ignored signs ofgrowing alertness, not only in
that patient, but also in dozensof other potential donors.
Oh my gosh.
The investigation examinedabout 350 cases in Kentucky over
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the past four years in whichplans to remove organs were
ultimately canceled.
It found that in 73 instances,officials should have considered
stopping sooner because thepatients had high or improving
levels of consciousness.
Although the surgeries didn'thappen, the investigation said
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multiple patients showed signsof pain and distress while being
readied for the procedure.
Most of the patients eventuallydied hours or days later, but
some recovered enough to leavethe hospital, according to an
investigation by Federal HealthResources and Services
Administration, whose findingswere shared with the New York
Times.
The investigation centered on anincreasingly common practice
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called donation aftercirculatory death.
Unlike most organ donors whoare brain dead, patients in
these cases have some brainfunction but are on life support
and not expected to recover.
Often they're in a coma.
If family members agree todonation, employees of a
non-profit called an organprocurement organization begin
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testing the patient's organs andlining up transplant surgeons
and recipients.
Every state has at least oneprocurement organization and
they often station staff inhospitals to help manage
donations.
Typically, the patient is takento an operating room where
hospital workers withdraw lifesupport and wait.
The organs are consideredviable for donation only if the
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patient dies within an hour ortwo.
If that happens, theprocurement organization's team
waits five more minutes and thenbegins removing organs.
Strict rules are supposed toensure that no retrieval begins
before death or causes it.
The investigation criticizedKentucky organ donor affiliates,
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which was coordinatingdonations in the state now
called Network for Hope after amerger.
It has said it always followsthe rules and never removes
organs until a hospital hasdeclared a patient dead.
But the investigation foundthat the organization's
employees repeatedly pressuredfamilies to authorize donation
improperly, took over cases fromdoctors and tried to push
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hospital staff to remove lifesupport and allow for surgery.
Even if there were indicationsof growing awareness in patients
, some employees failed torecognize that hospital
sedatives or illegal drugs couldmask patients' neurological
condition, meaning that theymight be in better shape than
they seemed.
In December 2022, a 50-year-oldoverdose victim began stirring
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less than an hour after beingtaken off life support and he
started looking around.
The retrieval attempt was notimmediately ended, nor was the
patient given any explanation.
The patient had no idea whatwas going on, but was becoming
more aware by the minute recordsnoted.
After 40 more minutes, when thepatient's organs would no
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longer qualify for donation, theattempt was finally called off
and he was moved to an intensivecare unit.
He later sat up and spoke withhis family before dying three
days later, the investigationfound.
Overall, the investigationflagged 103 cases as having
concerning features and saidproblems were more likely to
occur at rural hospitals.
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It noted more than half of thetransplants arranged by the
Kentucky organization were fromcirculatory death patients,
which were above the nationalaverage.
Nationwide officials recoveredabout 20,000 organs from this
type of donor last year, nearlydouble the total in 2021,
according to the OrganProcurement and Transplantation
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Network, which oversees thetransplantation system.
Federal regulators told thenetwork last week that the
Kentucky organization mustincrease training for staff and
conduct neurological assessmentson potential organ donors every
12 hours, among other changes.
On Thursday the organizationsaid it received a report about
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government investigation.
We will fully comply with alltheir suggested recommendations,
it said in a statement.
The federal inquiry began lastfall after a congressional
committee heard testimony aboutthe Kentucky man, anthony Thomas
Hoover II, who had an overdosein 2021.
He was unresponsive for twodays before his family agreed to
donate his organs.
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Over the next two days theprocurement organization moved
towards surgery even as hisneurological condition improved.
The investigation found Duringone exam records show he was
thrashing on the bed.
He was sedated to preventfurther motion.
Oh my gosh.
The hospital staff wasextremely uncomfortable with the
amount of reflexes that thepatient was exhibiting.
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Case notes read hospital staffkept stating that this was
euthanasia.
A procurement organizationcoordinator assured them it was
not.
When Mr Hoover was taken for,the retrieval records show he
cried, pulling his knees to hischest and shaking his head.
A hospital doctor refused towithdraw life support.
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Mr Hoover eventually recovered,now 36, he has lingering
neurological injuries.
In interviews with the Times,two former employees of the
procurement organization saidhigher-ups tried to pressure the
doctor to continue theretrieval attempt.
If it had not been for thatphysician, we absolutely 1,000%
would have moved forward, saidone of them, natasha Miller, who
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was in the room.
Three other former Kentuckyemployees said they'd seen
similar cases.
The investigation did not sayif there was pressure on doctors
who treated Mr Hoover.
The Network for Hope did notsay if there was pressure on
doctors who treated mr hoover.
The network for hope did notrespond to a request for comment
on that case.
I wonder why?
Yeah, shocking.
The kentucky attorney general'soffice also launched an
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investigation into mr hoover'scase on thursday.
The office said that the reviewwas ongoing wow, what the fuck
this is my worst nightmare, canyou?
Speaker 2 (51:38):
I was just thinking like can you imagine someone
running into medical mishap?
Like well, everyone thought Iwas going for organ donation,
but I woke up and people weretrying to take my organs.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Oh my god, I used to.
I used to be like should Idonate my organs?
Because, selfishly, does thatmean they're not going to try to
keep me alive?
Then I was also.
Now I'm like, well, what if I'malready alive?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
they're just like dude, we need your heart oh yeah
, and they're, and they're liketoo bad lady scary oh man, no
organ donations are good.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
This is super rare, but um very scary and um just
happening now.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
So yeah, wow, that's crazy yeah yeah, you, yeah,
you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
You're welcome everyone for that nightmare.
Let's go back to our othernightmare.
So back to the case.
To recap, jen never knewanything much about Bart's past.
It was something that hadalways really bothered her, and
her family was about to learnBart's bestpt secret.
See, dr Carlton Hearn and hiswife Barbara knew Bart Corbin
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extremely well.
14 years ago, when Bart was indental school, their daughter
Dolly had been involved withBart and broken up with him.
Dolly died shortly afterbreaking up with him.
The cause of death was agunshot wound to the head, oh my
God.
And the local police named themanner of death as a suicide.
But the Heron family knewotherwise.
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For 14 years they'd beenwaiting to bring the truth to
light and bring Dr Corbin tojustice.
They knew that Bart Corbin hadkilled their daughter Dolly and
now he'd done it again andkilled Jen.
They wanted to ensure that thistime Bart would pay.
And that's part one Allocats.
We'll have more on this casenext week for part two.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Oh my God, you jerk Right when we're just clinging
on.
Oh my God, bejeweless, I wasnot expecting that.
I've definitely never heard ofthis case.
Well, oh my God, I have so manythat.
I've definitely never heard ofthis case.
Well, oh my god, I have so manythoughts.
Okay, so the Hearns must benearby this guy still.
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If they're keeping tabs on him,maybe I'm sure we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I don't think they're in another state, but they yeah
.
They had spent 14 years reallykeeping an eye on things and, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
So there'll be an integral part to cracking the
case, perhaps, and maybe justicefor Dolly.
Maybe they can change her deathcertificate.
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I don'teven remember.
Did Bart see them?
Did Bart see them?
Did Bart see them?
He's going to poop his pantswhen he sees them.
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Okay Well, I will be lookingforward to part two.
Holy cat's pajamas, this one'swild.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, and I mean mean honestly,wait till part two and then, if
you're still interested, readthe book, because I tell you
what ann rule is such a goodauthor she's so compassionate
and she gets.
She was the only journalistthat was allowed like direct
access to the families becausethey just, you know, bared their
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souls to her and she got toknow everybody as if they were.
She treats the victims andtheir families like long lost
friends.
I don't know, there's somethingto her very tender way of
supporting the victims and theirfamilies that I just find so
heartwarming.
But anyway, yeah, so that's agood book to read.
(55:20):
Too Late to Say Goodbye, byAnne Rowe, anyway, but anyway,
yeah, so that's a good book toread.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Um too late to say goodbye, anyway, shall we?
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You want me to take it on, I do, and I'm so excited
for you to read this, becauseyou've read it, because I picked
it, because it's about a dentalassistant.
It's from a dental assistant.
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, so you guys.
She didn't share this documentwith me until literally before
we started hitting record, so Ihave not heard this before
either.
So let's do it All right, itsays.
Ladies, I am so loving your podand have been telling all my
dental colleagues about it aswell.
Thank you so much for that, anddidn't know we were going to be
(56:09):
so deep versed into the dentalworld.
But happy to be there with youguys.
We love teeth and dentalsystems.
We love teeth.
Oral health care so important.
Oral health care, so important.
Okay.
So then this person goes on tosay you guys wait, you guys
(56:30):
can't get enough of us latelyand we feel the same about you
too.
Lol, I'm here to say that notall dentists are evil, I swear,
okay.
So I've been a dental assistantfor over 15 years.
I've seen it all Peoplefainting at the sight of a
toothbrush, patients who thinkTikTok, oil pulling can replace
flossing.
The works I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Do you want it?
I have to look it up too.
So oil pulling is apparentlysomething that went viral, like
it goes back to like Ayurvedicmedicine, where they claim that,
like swishing essential oils inyour mouth, can get rid of all
your dental problems and cansolve mental fatigue or I don't
know all kinds of stuff that'snot been proven.
(57:07):
So you know, yeah, oh great,good.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
But this person goes on to say but this one still
tops my list.
A few years ago I had a newpatient come in, super chatty,
probably in her late 60s, let'scall her Barbara.
We're doing a full exam and Iask her to remove any dental
appliances.
She says oh sweetie, I don'thave dentures All mine.
Okay, cool, we go ahead withthe cleaning.
(57:36):
I start scaling her teeth, orher lower teeth, and think, wow,
these are in great shape.
Then I moved to the uppers andsomething feels off like
suspiciously off.
So I poke gently and I swear toGod, her entire upper teeth in
quotes come out in one cleanpiece, like a perfect white
dental mask just popped off.
(57:56):
Barbara stares at me wideeyeyed and goes well, I'll be
damned, I forgot I had a partial.
She forgot Her dentures.
Apparently they were sowell-fitted and comfortable that
she hadn't removed them inweeks.
She thought they were just hernew strong teeth.
Thanks to calcium chews andpositive thinking, I had to
(58:18):
excuse myself to go into thehallway because I was laugh
crying so hard that I had to gocompose myself and change my
soggy mask.
Moral of the story when apatient says they're all mine,
ask for a follow-up, becausesometimes they technically are.
They just came from a lab first.
Stay safe and stay suspiciousof your patient's teeth.
Love Molly.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Thank you, molly.
I you, molly, was that, though,we have a little light-hearted
story yeah, and reassurance frommolly that not all dentists are
evil.
Thank you, molly oh well,you've been yawning.
That might be the perfect segueinto our next promo it's like
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our promo code has not had theword stay in it.
Is it just suspicious?
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Interesting.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello, how are you Thriving, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thriving in your summer vacay.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Meanwhile we're waiting for a freaking tornado.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, I know.
So today was the first day ofmy summer break where I actually
didn't have anywhere to go oranywhere to be or anything to do
, which was really nice, exceptit rained all day, which
whatever but yeah, so that wasnice.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So it's finally sinking in not quite, yet still
feels like a vacation, yeah yeahyeah, well, um, for me it's
life as usual, uh sorry aboutthe exception that, yeah,
yesterday was father's day.
Shout out to all the father andfather figures out there hey
(00:54):
shout out to you dads we loveyou guys so we spent father's
day um sheltering in place ohyeah it's not funny at all no,
no, there was a, there was a, agunman on the loose, and
I mean, I'm sure you guys haveheard about it, right yeah, and
(01:14):
it's probably gonna be old newsby the time people hear this,
but any who's all um that kindof put a uh of light on our our
day, but um, it could have been.
You know, I, you know prayersto the families that are
affected and violence is neverthe answer.
Um, and also it was a learningopportunity for my daughter, who
(01:34):
was really interested in thefifty thousand dollar, you know,
prize if you get someinformation that led to the
arrest of this arsehole.
She was like, listen, we have abig tree house in our yard.
He's in the area If he.
You know what if we make itlook super attractive.
And then like, do we have tosplit the money if someone else
(01:56):
has a tip?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
She's like listen, let's lure him to our tree house
, because this is an immaculatehiding spot, sir, and then I can
get some money.
Oh my god, yeah, I wonder ifthe gal that actually like saw
him down by the culvert orwhatever.
I wonder if she will get fiftythousand dollars I hope so.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I hope so too.
I mean first of all just forthe trauma of having to see I
know something like this.
But also I love that there wasa basically it was a drone over
him and he just surrendered whenhe saw the drone and nobody got
hurt.
Yeah, because I was thinking,you know, he had written this
note to his housemate about howhe was gonna die and I was
(02:37):
thinking, oh goodness, death bycops, somebody's gonna get hurt,
somebody else is to get hurt,because obviously we lost two
lawmakers tragically over this.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So, um, yeah, he's in custody um, this is just my own
opinion, that I'm gonna sayquick and we're gonna move on.
Um, wow, his roommate surelikes to talk to the press.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow yeah, I mean we all have our time in the
limelight.
That's not a time that I wouldrevel in necessarily but this is
I'm telling you this when I wasactually kicked out of court on
judge judy, so I'm just gonnaleave everyone with that little
tidbit.
L?
Um I'm not gonna say any more.
(03:21):
Listen, that'll be a patreon.
We'll talk more about how youcan find me on Judge Judy
getting kicked out of thecourtroom.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Little Easter egg for you guys.
Right, I should find a clip ofthat and put it on our social
media.
Just kidding, I won't do thatto you.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, no, please don't put the link on there.
We need some incentive forpeople to see me in the most
shameful moment of my life onpublic television.
Yes, it's worth it.
Um so, do we have anycorrections for your episode?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I feel like I don't think, so I did on your episodes
oh my gosh, stop.
No right, I had um yogurt andsnowmobiling, um.
I did have a lot of peoplereach out and say that they were
laughing along with us and thatit was really fun.
Like fun for like a not a greatthing, right, obviously we're
(04:18):
talking about people that werehurt and taken advantage of and
whatever, but but yeah, peoplewere like, well, I was laughing
along with you guys.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And you were laughing at him, not with him.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I listened to it back also and I started laughing
again so hard.
That was a really fun one.
I mean, yeah, to make fun ofhim.
What a doozy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I mean, what a target .
He made it easy for us woohooget naked just just that
reporter's tone when she waslike then she took a look at him
, she was like holy hell she'slike, I'm like, I spiraled my
eyeballs listen to episode 20.
(05:03):
Um, if you haven't already,it's a hoot and a half.
Um, yeah, hold on to your pantsfor that one.
Um, okay, because someone elsedid episode 20.
We are now at episode 21.
We are old enough to drink oh,cheers clink, clink clink, clink
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A little glass, oh, and I've gotmy aquafina there's miss pure
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champagne glass, because ifanything I am.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
If I had a glass of wine while I was doing this, I'd
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So today we are going to betalking about another deadly
dentist.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh yeah, I forgot we were going back to dentistry,
lol.
Next week we're not, though.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Do you guys, do you watch or have you watched
Seinfeld?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, like not enough to quote it or anything.
Have I seen the show yet?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Have you ever watched the episode about the dentist?
No, oh, jerry was accused ofbeing anti-dentite oh wow.
Well, I'm on summer break, so Ican try and find it, uh okay,
yeah, no, it's super funny, butlike jerry was mad that this
dentist converted to judaism forthe jokes, it's a good episode
(07:45):
anyway.
Um, and then the dentistaccused jerry of being
anti-dentite, which I I didn't.
You know, that's a thing, it'sa made-up thing, but we're not
anti-dentite folks, no, we just.
We just, you know, we lovedentistry.
Yeah, but there is a.
Okay, the primary source fortoday's episode is a book by ann
(08:06):
rule.
Ever heard of her?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
yeah, once or twice stranger in the dark.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, so this book is entitled too late, to say
goodbye.
Um, and there are, um.
There are other sources thatwill be listed in our show notes
.
Um, the trigger warning forthis episode is that there are
going to be mentions of domesticabuse.
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Thank you.
I mean thank you for thewarning, I know.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
On December 4th 2004, in a quiet and well-to-do
neighborhood in Gwinnett County,georgia, a couple named Kelly
Kamo and her husband Steve wereasleep in bed.
It was 7.30 in the morning whenthey awoke to a frantic
knocking at the front door.
Kelly flew down the stairs inher bathrobe in a panic, sensing
the desperation in the knocks.
(08:54):
She discovered little DaltonCorbin, seven years old, sobbing
in his pajamas on her step.
Dalton lived across the streetwith his little brother dylan
and their parents, jen and bartcorbin.
Kelly ushered him into thehouse and folded him in her arms
.
What's wrong, honey, she asked.
Dalton was so upset he hadtrouble choking the words out
(09:18):
there's something wrong with mymom.
Oh my gosh, do you know thisstory?
no, the story okay well, I don'tknow, not yet I think they made
a lifetime movie about it too,so some people may have heard
about it, but I haven't watchedthe movie.
But anyway, kelly felt herheart skip a beat and her
stomach sank with dread.
She and jen were friends andshe knew that jen and bart had
(09:40):
been going through a difficultpatch in their marriage.
She followed dalton across thestreet to the Corbin's house.
Even her intuitive sense ofdread couldn't have prepared her
for what she found in thefamily's master bedroom Jen
lying on her stomach diagonallyacross the four-poster bed, limp
and unmoving blood drippingfrom her nose and her head.
(10:01):
Her platinum blonde, curly hairwas stained red with blood.
She wore only a nightgown withstraps fastened by safety pins.
Kelly didn't need to check forpulse.
It was evident that her friendwas dead.
Kelly immediately grabbedDalton and plucked five-year-old
Dylan from his bed.
She asked Dalton where thefamily phone was, and he pointed
(10:21):
to the cordless phone on theirdining table.
Dalton where the family phonewas, and he pointed to the
cordless phone on their diningtable.
Dalton said that he'd alreadytried to call 911 with it, but
that it didn't work.
Kelly tried as well and thebattery was dead.
The three ran across the streetand called 911 from the Camo's
house.
(10:42):
Investigators discovered agunshot wound to the back of
jen's head, just behind her ear.
The gun was next to heroutstretched right arm, about
three to four inches away fromher fingers, and, interestingly,
the barrel of the gun waspartially covered by the
bedspread on the nightstand.
(11:03):
They noticed an open bottle ofwine and an almost empty glass.
As they examined the bed, theyrealized that there were some
papers underneath Jen's body.
Those papers were laterdiscovered to be divorce papers.
There didn't seem to be anysigns of forced entry to the
house, no defensive wounds onthe victim's body, no signs of
(11:23):
burglary and no indications ofsexual assault.
The investigator's firstconclusion was that this was a
suicide, but there were a fewissues with this assumption.
First of all, the position ofthe gunshot wound posed an
awkward angle for aself-inflicted shot.
And then there was location ofthe gun.
How likely was it that it wouldland underneath the covers if
(11:45):
Jen had shot herself?
This seemed to defy gravity,and the sad part is that there
was an unlikelihood that Jenwould have killed herself in a
shabby pinned together nightgown.
So obviously this is not a hardand fast rule, but women tend
to not shoot themselves and, atthe very least, if they do,
they're going to think about howthey'll look when their bodies
are found, not for vain reasons,but because they don't want to
(12:06):
leave a mess or traumatize theperson who finds them any more
than they absolutely have to,which is sadly why a lot of
suicides occur in hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh my gosh, I know this is so morbid I always like
wonder, like, oh, I wonder ifthere's ever okay, never mind
yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
When you're in a hotel room, is this one?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
yeah, like if, like, there's like some swanky
business ever going on in there,and then I would never, I've
never thought like oh no, Iwonder if this has happened and
I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's not like they have to disclose it to you.
I know, oh god, I know I'mspoiling a lot of things for a
lot of people um your upstairs.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Neighbors actually aren't loud, that's just ricky
um ricky the ghost um yeah, okay, well, okay, sorry, oh no, it's
okay.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Um, we need a little comic relief now and again with
this tough subject material.
Um, jen's face was covered inblood.
She wore a ratty nightgown andno makeup.
Would she have wanted her twolittle boys to find her in this
condition?
Not likely.
This looks staged to look likea suicide.
The wine, the divorce papers onthe bed.
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And then there was the 911 call.
During the call, the dispatcherhad asked Kelly to put Dalton
on the phone.
The dispatcher asked if therewas anything in the house
besides him, his mom and hisyounger brother.
Dalton was matter-of-fact yes,my dad was home.
He said he's the one thatkilled my mom.
When questioned further, hestated he didn't actually see or
(13:40):
hear it, but that he knew itwas true because of the way his
dad had been acting recently,always mad and yelling at his
mom.
Csi swabbed Jen's hands to testfor gunshot residue and
detectives immediately set outto track down Jen's husband, dr
Bart Corbin.
Dds Bart was nowhere to befound.
Jen's devastated family triedto reach out to him to help
(14:02):
provide support in absorbingthis terrible news.
When he was unable to belocated, jen's sister, heather,
and her husband called Bart'syounger brother, bobby.
Bobby's tone was weird.
It was unnatural.
When the family members askedif Bart was with him, he stated
yes.
But when they said, oh okay,well, are you on your way over,
(14:24):
like to get the boys?
He stayed silent.
No response.
Meanwhile, bart's traumatizedlittle boys, dylan and Dalton,
were still at the Camo's houseacross the street.
Like what the hell, bart?
For real, bart, I don't know.
You don't want to check on yourtraumatized kids.
Real quick, my dude.
You know, since they just foundtheir dead mother's body in
(14:44):
their home, I mean nothing, sushere.
Not a happy Father's Day to you, bart, you dick.
This is how an innocent husbandbehaves when his wife is shot
to death.
Mm-hmm, me thinks not.
Since Bart showed no interestwhatsoever in being with his
boys on the scariest and mosttraumatic day of their lives,
jen's sister, heather went topick them up herself.
(15:04):
Gwinnett County police finallygot a hold of Bart at his
brother Bobby's place, but Bartrefused to talk to the police
directly.
Instead, he made them play aridiculous game of phone tag,
with Bobby acting as theintermediary.
Bart, they need you to come infor an interview, etc.
Big stinking coward that he isBart's brother.
(15:25):
I know it's ridiculous.
What do we need?
Bart's brother, bobby, providedan alibi for Bart, stating that
the two of them had been outdrinking the night before, so
Bart had come over to Bobby'splace to sleep it off, and that
was all they would say about it.
No more questions answered.
Thank you very much.
Meanwhile, jen's family wasadamant that she would never
(15:49):
have taken her life, let alonein a situation where the boys
would be the ones to find hernot in a million years.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
A mom would never.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, can you imagine.
No, she had to have beenmurdered.
Eventually, bart showed up atthe police station with a lawyer
in tow for his interview.
Looking extremely put out, herewas a man who just lost his
wife, the mother of his children, but he was just irritated.
Police swabbed his hands forgunshot residue, knowing he had
(16:19):
plenty of time to wash themthoroughly by that time, but
they did it anyway.
But let's put a pin on theinvestigation for now and let's
learn more about the peoplebehind the story Jen and Bart
Corbin.
This is definitely a case withunexpected twists and turns.
We love that, right.
Bart Corbin grew up in the 60sin a typical middle-class
(16:41):
southern family.
He had two brothers, afraternal twin, brad, and a
younger brother, bobby.
There's so many b's brad, bobbyand bart bobby um bart got along
best I'm still using thealliteration here, folks bart
got along best with bobby.
They were both extroverted andpopular, while brad was more
(17:03):
reserved.
And rules theory was that aparticular sex ed class had a
formative effect on bart corbin,helping to shape help you, I
know, wait till you hear this.
She felt this helped to shapethe view of women that he'd
carry on with him for the restof his life.
Oh yeah, so bart had this.
Um, okay, you want to?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
hear it.
Sex ed class was reallyimpactful for him.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Got it he had tell me how you feel about this.
So he had this real southernconservative man as his teacher
and that told the boys in theclass look, girls don't enjoy
sex, they hate it.
So, oh, if you're a considerateboyfriend, you're never gonna
try to talk them into it,because they hate it like poison
.
So have mercy on the poorthings, okay oh my gosh, what.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Okay, like a teacher these days could and would never
so yikes.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I mean, the teacher was very close to an important
conversation about waiting aboutconsent, but he made it so
weird and almost traumatizing.
So, after this, bart was laserfocused on ignoring sex and
impressing his dad about sports,because his dad was super
sports focused and Bart wasembarking on a football career
(18:18):
because he was 6'3 and 240pounds.
If he'd stuck with it heprobably could have played for a
small university, but hedecided he wanted to attend the
University of Georgia in Athens.
He walked on the field duringhis freshman and sophomore years
, but he ended up having to dropfootball because he couldn't
keep up with the rigorouspractice schedule and study at
the same time.
(18:38):
So, born in Gwinnett, georgia,jennifer Barber grew up tall,
statuesque and full of energy,one of those people who stand
out from the crowd everywherethey go.
She was a high achiever and yetdown to earth she was close
with her family, including herparents and her two sisters
Heather.
Heather was her younger sisterand Rial was her older sister.
(19:00):
Jen was like her mom.
She was creative and passionateabout art.
She got a degree from SCAD,which is an unfortunate nickname
because it stands for theSavannah college of art and
design, but it just sounds likea scab, I don't know, but Jen
was so good at so many things itwas difficult for her to settle
on a career choice.
I will say I go by Jenna and Ispell my name J-E-N-N-E and Jen
(19:26):
Barber spells her name J-E-N-N,and so I had to keep correcting
spell check during this, and theone that I forgot to check
until the very last minute wasJenna was good at so many things
.
Oh well, it's true.
Oh wait, no, I can't say thatso, but Jen was so good at many
(19:48):
things that it was difficult forher to settle on a career.
So she attended nursing schoolfor a while after graduating and
then landed a job as abartender at an oyster bar,
which is weird because I alsohave been a bartender at an
oyster bar.
Wow, I know, I hope you don'tend up moided.
No, me too.
Well, you know what.
I've lived a good life.
(20:15):
I've been there done that I feellike you know what, but but
unfortunately Okay what?
No, we're digressing.
I obviously am not going to getmoited.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So Jen's at the oyster bar making tips.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, she likes it.
She was 25.
Yeah, she was only 25.
She wanted to enjoy life andshe liked working at the oyster
bar.
Am I going to have to cut someof that out?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I think I probably will.
Oh well, I've lived a good life, so fuck it so fucking come and
murder me people you're like.
Invitations on the door maydisturb what?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
what's wrong with me?
What is wrong with me I?
What is wrong with me?
I need my head checked.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Did you have therapy today?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I did and I had therapy today.
What the hell's wrong with mytherapist?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You need to schedule another appointment.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I can't.
Oh man, oh man.
Yeah, that's going to getcoming on for it.
Okay, all right, she was 25.
She wanted to enjoy life andshe liked working at the Oyster
Bar.
She was famous in town for herkick-ass white.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Russians Dessert in a glass.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I love that stuff so good.
It was at the Oyster Bar thatJen met 31-year-old Bart Corbin.
Bart's brother, Bobby, workedat the same restaurant as well,
and Bobby introduced Jen to hisbrother Bart.
By then it was 1995, and he hadgraduated from dental school
and he was now Dr Bart CorbinDoctor.
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Dr Bart Jen found Bart a talldrink of water.
He was taller than her, whichwas difficult to find since she
was a tall lady.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He was good looking, well educated, well off and well
dressed.
Wow, Just very well to do allaround All the wells.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
He worked out regularly and he was a member of
Mensa, which some would say,wow, super smart, others would
say, wow, serial killer.
Um, I don't know, take yourpick.
There's a.
There's a nice smattering ofeach in mensa, but anyway he was
a catch, and at the beginningof their relationship he laid
the romance on with a shovel.
He love bombed the heck out ofjen.
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It worked.
He took her to a conference inItaly not long after they began
dating, so romantic.
Meanwhile, neither Jen nor hisfamily knew that Bart was
secretly seeing other women,including one who was 20 years
his senior and his officesecretary Cliché much His.
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His office secretary was, bythe way, married with kids.
Of course she was, so perhapsdr corbin wasn't as besotted
with jen as he appeared inpublic.
Shortly after their trip toitaly, jen announced to her
family that she was pregnant.
Oh shit.
She said that she and bart hadtalked about it and planned to
get married and raise the childtogether.
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The wedding was hastily planned, yet it was still a beautiful
occasion.
There was a minor fly in theointment, though.
Jen noticed that bart spent alot more money on his wedding
ring than he did on hers.
What weird.
You ever heard that before?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
no, my husband wears silicone wedding bands jen's
ring was pretty but simple.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Bart's was set with big diamonds interesting, what
an ass.
When she mentioned it to him,he said ah well, I have an image
to maintain now that I'mstarting my dental practice.
People expect it and I put inmy notes insert derisive
snorting here.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I mean, yeah, that's interesting, but if you're also
trying to like keep up with thisfacade in public, then wouldn't
you want your wife to have a?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
big old shiny rock too.
Yeah, like what the hell Bart.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Because now you just look like a narcissistic
douchebag.
Oh wait, but his wife was neveraround because he's too busy
sleeping with his secretary Ithink you're getting the picture
here I've known a guy like thisonce.
I'm so sorry to hear that um,also this has shades of um
what's her toes?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
the mercedes car gal clara, I can't clara, yeah yeah,
yeah, shades of clara, there'shubby yeah so after um the
corbin's were married, theymoved to beaufort, georgia,
georgia, sweet georgia, georgia,where bart opened up his own
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practice.
They were all set to have theirbaby and start life as a brand
new family.
Brad continued hisextracurricular activities.
however, one of his girlfriendsadvised Bart that he should
marry Jen when he found out shewas pregnant, the girlfriend,
which was the married one,attended their wedding, and
their families would sometimeshang out together.
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This affair went on for decades.
Yikes, did jen know this?
No, another thing jen didn'trealize was that bart was hardly
at the top of his class.
Of course he wasn't Dumb.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's exactly why he had to stop football, because
if you like, when you read thatlike to focus on his studies, I
was like good for him to focuson your studies, but it's kind
of one of those like if youwanted to, you would things Like
you could have done both, butyou didn't have the drive, so
I'm not shocked you weren't atthe top of your class barked.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, when it doesn't serve him anymore, it's not
worth the effort, right?
That's the purpose, like beyondwhat normal people do.
So, all right, I didn't putthis in the warning, but I
probably should have.
It's a warning about dentists,not to be anti-dentite, but if
you have a phobia of dentistsyou might want to skip ahead
like 30 seconds.
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Most dentists are trustworthy,excellent and essential
healthcare practitioners, butthis guy was not Okay.
So one woman saw Bart forcrowns on her front teeth.
She found Bart very reassuring.
At her first appointment.
He assured the patient that hewas skilled at placing crowns
and told her not to worry aboutanything.
So she came back for twosessions, both of which ended up
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lasting twice as long as hesaid they would.
Dr Bart was a hot mess thewhole time.
He kept getting flustered andsweaty, yelling at his hygienist
and swearing in his breath.
He appeared completely off therails.
Not a good look for aprofessional, let alone someone
rearranging your teeth.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah and like right in your face.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I know At one point literally in your mouth the poor
patient started hemorrhagingduring the procedure and choking
on her blood.
Dr Corbin just dropped his headin his hands and said he didn't
know how to stop the bleeding.
He finally said I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, what, what?
I am sorry, that's what you'regonna.
You're just gonna stop.
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Anyway, the patient what?
I know, he just was like I dude,I don't know how to stop the
bleeding, sorry, I'm sorry.
So the patient leapt out of thechair and ran out to find an
emergency dentist who of coursefixed her right up.
And then Bart had the absolutecojones to send her a bill for
two grand for this trauma.
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I cannot with this man.
So she of course disputed andcomplained about this to the
state board, and they wrote offoff the bill.
But why didn't the board?
The board didn't discipline him.
I don't understand that.
That disturbs me.
He just went on practicingincompetently anyway.
Yeah, wow, um.
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So jen was joyful in the firstfew months of her marriage to
bart.
She was so excited to be a mom,and then the love bombing
abruptly stopped.
Now that she was under hiscontrol, bart got to work on his
emotional warfare.
He picked on everything she did.
He controlled what she wore,how much makeup she put on and
told her not to paint her nails.
He got angry when she cleanedthe house when he was home,
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because it was taking time awayfrom him, but yet he expected
the house to be spotless anddinner on the table when he was
home from work.
He criticized her and calledher names, like bimbo, telling
her, oh no, that she'd never behis equal.
He liked to remind her thatalthough he'd chosen her as his
wife, he was a doctor, whichmeant that he was the superior
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being and the one in charge.
What a douchebag.
Additionally, he was anabsolute miser when it came to
money.
Jen was not allowed to spend adime without consulting him
first.
He was known to fly into atantrum over ten dollars, which
is a pittance on a dentist'ssalary.
And just in case you're for adoctor, for a doctor, and just
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in case you're still on thefence on how to feel about this
douchebag and we both chose thatword and I think it's apropos
we're the same Jen had a sweetold yellow lab named Sebastian.
That's so cute.
I know Sebastian had been herdog for years before she ever
met Bart and Sebastian got alongwith everyone Everyone except
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Bart.
They say dogs have a sixthsense about people.
So this is a good example ofspot on intuition.
Anytime Bart got close toSebastian, the dog would snarl
and growl, which was totally outof character for him.
Bart hated Sebastian just asmuch.
One night, not long after thewedding, jen called her parents
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in a panic.
She told her parents theyneeded to take Sebastian because
Bart would kill him if shedidn't get the dog out of the
house right away Wow Shopping.
Like a lot of people in abusiverelationships, jen found ways
to explain Bart's behavior toherself, ways to forgive him and
hope things would get better.
I've been there myself.
It's not as cut and dried as itlooks.
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And then Jen had her first child, dalton.
She loved Bart, she lovedDalton and she wanted that
family life.
Like most empaths, she learnedto read the room and avoid Bart
when he was in a mood.
Like any situation, as I said,life isn't black and white.
They had good times.
They got a houseboat which theydocked next to Jen's parents'
houseboat where they would havebarbecues and swimming parties
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together.
However, tensions were high andBart resented the time that Jen
spent caring for baby Dalton.
He was impatient with the baby.
Red flags abound.
Over time, jen began to realizethat her marriage wasn't normal.
She asked her sister Heatheronce do you ever wonder what
your husband did or who he knewbefore you met him?
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Heather was like what do youmean?
You don't know that stuff aboutBart.
I know everything about myhusband.
Another time she said toHeather don't you wish you could
just give your kids cereal forbreakfast sometimes?
And once again Heather told herI do.
I do that all the time.
Jen told her that Bart wouldn'tallow it.
He said to Jen that if shewouldn't cook for their child,
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he would find a woman who would.
Oh my gosh, I mean, he's likethe perfect soap opera villain,
but without the charisma.
Nevertheless, in 1998, jen foundshe was pregnant with her
second child.
She was delighted and she hopedthat Bart was too.
She bought a silver rattle togive to Bart to let him know the
happy news.
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It did not go well.
Instead of getting excited andhugging his wife, he threw the
rattle across the room and leftin a huff.
I mean, this man may have beena dentist, but there's a rotten
cavity where his soul should be.
Shortly after Dylan's birth, hegot a vasectomy and he
continued to grow more and morepossessive of Jen's time and
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resentful of the time she spentwith their children.
Meanwhile, our dude carried onhaving multiple affairs.
While jen was a super mom, shebaked and helped out at the kids
school and drove them around toall their activities, while
bart was an unwelcome presenceat the kids little league games
because he'd scream at his kidsfrom the stands, worried about
how their performance reflectedon him.
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It's little league, what?
Yeah, brother.
Yeah, the other parents wouldroll their eyes and jen was
reflected on him.
It's Little League, yeah,brother.
The other parents would rolltheir eyes and Jen was mortified
.
But Bart may have been extracranky because and this won't
surprise you his work wasn'tgoing great.
Oh, shocking, turnover was high.
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I'm sure he was a stellar boss.
Right, he had a temper like agas leak silent at first and
then explosively volatile.
One moment he'd be calmlypolishing his tools and the next
he'd erupt hurling insults likedental instruments in a storm.
His voice, once soft-spoken forpatient reassurance, became a
weapon wielded against his staffsharp, cutting and
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unpredictable.
New hires would walk in withstarched scrubs and hopeful
smiles, only to leave weekslater with frayed nerves and
whispered warnings to the nextunfortunate replacement.
It wasn't just shouting, it waspublic berating, deliberate
humiliation, a need to assertdominance over anyone within
reach of his volcanic moods.
Some said the autoclave wasn'tthe only thing overheating in
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that office.
As the years passed, all ofthis began to take its toll on
jen and in 2003, seeking anescape from reality, she
discovered an onlinerole-playing game rpg called
everquest.
Everquest was a game where youcould team up with other
adventurers online and go onthese quests, racking up
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treasure, fighting dragons, etc.
Like in online Dungeons Dragons.
At first, jen played mainlywith her mom, who was also into
the game, but then Jen startedinteracting with other players,
especially one with the usernameSirTank she and.
SirTank started chatting abouttheir lives and before long
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their conversations shifted fromthe game to emails.
Oh no, yep.
Jen soon found out that her newfriend SirTank was a sweet,
funny, kind-hearted guy namedChris.
Jen fell hard and fast.
Chris was everything that Bartwasn't Attentive, compassionate,
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understanding and emotionallyavailable.
Soon Jen confided in Chrisabout all the issues she was
having with her marriage.
She told him about theemotional abuse.
Chris was horrified.
It turned out that Chris livedin Missouri with his sister and
he helped her raise her children, which he loved.
Jen began to daydream aboutwhat it would be like to be with
someone like Chris.
Chris seemed to be as into heras she was into him.
They began discussing a futuretogether and making plans.
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Bart began to notice a change inJen and that she wasn't fawning
all over him, trying to calmhim and falling victim to his
moods.
There was no more placating orwalking on eggshells around him
and she stopped sleeping withhim as well.
He slept in a different room.
He made her skin crawl.
Bart cringingly reached out toJen's family, complaining that
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she shunned any physicalaffection from him.
Weird, weird, gross dude.
Jen's sisters blew him off, buther mom, narda, tried to talk
to jen.
Jen told narda that bartdisgusted her and that she was
leaving him.
Jen began discussing thepossibility of moving the boys
to missouri and joining chris.
She was planning an escape.
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She obtained a credit card inher name and squirreled away a
couple thousand dollars insavings.
She bought stuff that she andChris would need when she moved
into her new place.
In early November of that yearshe finally brought up divorced
Bart, but he wheedled and beggedand convinced her to stay with
him through Christmas For theboys' sake, of course it's
always for the kids, for theboys' sake, of course.
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It's always for the kids.
A few weeks later, chrisghosted Jen.
They'd been in the habit ofemailing constantly throughout
each day, and then suddenly,radio silence.
Jen was frantic.
Finally he got back to her, butsomething had changed.
The emails were curt and hedidn't answer questions.
Jen finally let him have it,telling him that he needed to
say to her WTF was going on.
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So the truth came like aflaming dumpster fire.
Chris was really a woman namedAnita Hearn in Missouri.
Although they had been romanticon email, anita pointed out
that she'd been careful to avoidreferences to genitalia, as if
this mattered.
Okay, come on, what?
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No, you still.
Oh, you know, she was justvulnerable and she found someone
who you know.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
No wonder she was most emotionally available
because it was a woman yeah,right, then there's that of
course she was empathetic.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
She was a woman, woman, anyway, we love our guys,
but you know, often I meanmine's great, yeah, yours is
great.
So we're not painting everyonewith the same brush, but
honestly, yeah.
So Jen had felt what shethought was a real connection
with this person for months.
So she cut off contact withAnita and grieved connection
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with this person for months.
So she cut off contact withanita and grieved.
But after a while she reachedout again and she and anita
began corresponding again andshe forgave anita.
This was a surprise to everyonewho knew her because, as far as
anyone knew, she was straightand never expressed any romantic
or sexual interest in otherwomen.
After a while, the two womendiscussed sticking to jen's
original plan to leave Bart andfor Jen and the kids to join
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Anita in Missouri.
So maybe this wasn't a romanticrelationship, but they
definitely had a strong bond intheir friendship.
Author Ann Rule speculated thatJen was clinging to a way out
of her abusive nightmare of amarriage and this was like the
support that could help ithappen.
This could have been thecatalyst and I think there's
something to that.
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At any rate, jen intended toleave bart, and as any true
crime aficionado knows, that'sthe most dangerous time for a
woman when the male in therelationship knows that the
woman is leaving.
Unfortunately, that's justfacts, that's just statistics.
On thanksgiving day, bart foundout about the affair after
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rummaging around and snooping injen's purse he found a stack of
printed out emails from chris.
Oh yeah, everyone could tellsomething was eating at bart
during dinner.
And then that nightmare in anecktie punched her in the face
when everyone had left for theevening.
In front of the kids, terrified, jen packed the bag, scooped up
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the kids and went to stay withher sister Heather.
Poor little Dalton, the olderof the two.
He was so scared and hepractically velcroed himself to
Jen's side for days after this,afraid his dad would hurt her
again.
Bless his little angel heart.
And when Jen went back homeagain, she was terrified of
setting Brad off.
On December 1st Jen returnedfrom a run to find that Bart had
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gone through her personalbelongings again and stolen her
cell phone, calling all of thenumbers in her contact list.
Jen was upset and demanded herphone back, but bart denied
knowledge of what she wastalking about.
When she tried to confront himabout it.
He ran out the front door oftheir house wearing only a towel
.
What?
a treat for the neighbors thatmust have been.
Bart jumped in his car, toweland all while jen called 9-1-1.
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Bart began backing the cartowards her.
Jen tried to jump out of theway but didn't quite make it and
he backed over her foot.
He left a nasty bruise butfortunately there were no broken
bones.
But things were ugly.
Jen took the kids and escapedback to her sisters.
Heather was horrified whenDalton uncannily told her I'm
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scared that dad's going to killmommy, my heart.
Heather tried to take controlof the situation and called
Bart's brother and his mother,but nobody took it seriously.
Even Jen reassured Heather.
Oh no, bart wouldn't kill me,he wouldn't hurt his kids like
that, his kids like that.
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Jen wanted to stay away, but theproblem is that in these cases,
divorce lawyers tell you not toleave the marital home, where
it counts as abandonment, andyou lose everything.
Honestly, this has to change.
I have been in the sameposition and I know many other
women who've been in thissituation as well.
It is so dangerous andunnecessary.
We need to stop this nonsense.
At best it's unnecessarilyuncomfortable and depressing,
and at worse it's risky andtoxic and potentially
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life-threatening to requirepeople to cohabitate in order to
protect your right to your home.
So on December 2nd, since Jendidn't want to risk losing her
house, she went home again.
And on December 3rd, bart madeplans to go out drinking with
his brother, bobby and somefriends, while Jen stayed home
with the kids.
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And we know what Dalton foundthe next morning when he went to
wake his mother up forbreakfast.
From the start Jen's family knewit wasn't suicide.
They knew Jen had no interestin guns and had never owned one
herself.
But Bart owned a shotgun.
Jen had been concerned enoughabout the gun to mention it to
her parents a few days beforeshe died.
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Heather was so convinced thatBart murdered her sister.
She called 911, trying to reachthe sheriff that she knew
personally.
The autopsy put the final nailin the coffin of the suicide
theory.
First, there was no alcohol inJen's system at the time of her
death, making it pretty evidentthat the wine bottle and
half-empty glass were just props, elements of crime scene
staging.
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Plus, the ME medical examinerdetermined that the path of the
bullet had severed Jen'sbrainstem, cutting all motor
function, meaning that it wouldhave been impossible for her to
move after that, and the firstresponders found the gun under
the covers.
Somebody had to have put itthere and that somebody could
not have been Jen.
So Jen's cause of death was asingle gunshot wound and the
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manner of death was homicide.
Since Bart wasn't cooperatingwith the investigation, the
police quietly kept surveillinghim and soon learned an
interesting bit of info.
Bart had filed for divorceshortly before the murder.
As the hours and days went byafter the murder, bart continued
to distance himself from hiskids.
When Heather and her husbandasked Bart if they could come
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and pick some of the boys'clothes up and the Christmas
presents that their mom hadwrapped and put aside for the
boys, bart refused.
That kind of cruelty has achilling weight to it.
It's not just heartless, it'sdeliberately soul heartless,
it's deliberately soul-bruising.
And to make a tragic situationworse, bart insisted on
cremating Jen's remains.
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Jen's poor mother, narda,objected, sharing that she
wanted a chance to say goodbyeto her daughter.
The mortician took pity onNarda and allowed her a few
hours with Jen's body before thecremation took place.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
And afterwards Narda, begged.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Bart for the cremains so they could have a little
ceremony at home with the boys.
He grudgingly allowed this andthen quickly reminded the family
that Jen's remains were hisproperty and they needed to
return them ASAP.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Oh, okay, Sounds good bro.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Dr Carlton Hearn and his wife attended the funeral.
They had driven hours to be atJen's funeral to pay their
respects to a woman they'd nevermet in life.
As people filed out of thechurch after the service, they
expressed their sympathies toJen's mother Narda and father
Max.
Although they had never met Jenin person, they were very
familiar with Bart Corbin.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Oh, I was like who are these people?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Before we learn that it's time for a chart.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
note Chart note oh my gosh, we both dipped down
Unplanned.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Welcome to Chart Notes, the section where we
learn about what's happening inmedicine and health care.
I had to take a sip of my winefor this one, because alley cats
and amanda, alley cat amanda um, I was gonna say am I not an
alley cat?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
you are, have I not?
Speaker 1 (44:33):
earned my badge.
You have, you have.
This is an article from NewYork Times from June 6th,
written by Brian Rosenthal, andI'm just going to read you the
article, because I couldn'trewrite it, I couldn't summarize
it in any way.
You just need to hear thisarticle, you ready, you ready.
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A federal investigation found aKentucky nonprofit pushed
hospital workers towards surgerydespite signs of revival in
patients.
Four years ago, an unconsciousKentucky man began to awaken as
he was about to be removed fromlife support so that his organs
could be donated.
Even though the man cried,pulled his legs to his chest and
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shook his head, officials stilltried to move forward.
Now a federal investigation hasfound that officials of the
non-profit in charge ofcoordinating organ donations in
Kentucky ignored signs ofgrowing alertness, not only in
that patient, but also in dozensof other potential donors.
Oh my gosh.
The investigation examinedabout 350 cases in Kentucky over
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the past four years in whichplans to remove organs were
ultimately canceled.
It found that in 73 instances,officials should have considered
stopping sooner because thepatients had high or improving
levels of consciousness.
Although the surgeries didn'thappen, the investigation said
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multiple patients showed signsof pain and distress while being
readied for the procedure.
Most of the patients eventuallydied hours or days later, but
some recovered enough to leavethe hospital, according to an
investigation by Federal HealthResources and Services
Administration, whose findingswere shared with the New York
Times.
The investigation centered on anincreasingly common practice
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called donation aftercirculatory death.
Unlike most organ donors whoare brain dead, patients in
these cases have some brainfunction but are on life support
and not expected to recover.
Often they're in a coma.
If family members agree todonation, employees of a
non-profit called an organprocurement organization begin
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testing the patient's organs andlining up transplant surgeons
and recipients.
Every state has at least oneprocurement organization and
they often station staff inhospitals to help manage
donations.
Typically, the patient is takento an operating room where
hospital workers withdraw lifesupport and wait.
The organs are consideredviable for donation only if the
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patient dies within an hour ortwo.
If that happens, theprocurement organization's team
waits five more minutes and thenbegins removing organs.
Strict rules are supposed toensure that no retrieval begins
before death or causes it.
The investigation criticizedKentucky organ donor affiliates,
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which was coordinatingdonations in the state now
called Network for Hope after amerger.
It has said it always followsthe rules and never removes
organs until a hospital hasdeclared a patient dead.
But the investigation foundthat the organization's
employees repeatedly pressuredfamilies to authorize donation
improperly, took over cases fromdoctors and tried to push
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hospital staff to remove lifesupport and allow for surgery.
Even if there were indicationsof growing awareness in patients
, some employees failed torecognize that hospital
sedatives or illegal drugs couldmask patients' neurological
condition, meaning that theymight be in better shape than
they seemed.
In December 2022, a 50-year-oldoverdose victim began stirring
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less than an hour after beingtaken off life support and he
started looking around.
The retrieval attempt was notimmediately ended, nor was the
patient given any explanation.
The patient had no idea whatwas going on, but was becoming
more aware by the minute recordsnoted.
After 40 more minutes, when thepatient's organs would no
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longer qualify for donation, theattempt was finally called off
and he was moved to an intensivecare unit.
He later sat up and spoke withhis family before dying three
days later, the investigationfound.
Overall, the investigationflagged 103 cases as having
concerning features and saidproblems were more likely to
occur at rural hospitals.
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It noted more than half of thetransplants arranged by the
Kentucky organization were fromcirculatory death patients,
which were above the nationalaverage.
Nationwide officials recoveredabout 20,000 organs from this
type of donor last year, nearlydouble the total in 2021,
according to the OrganProcurement and Transplantation
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Network, which oversees thetransplantation system.
Federal regulators told thenetwork last week that the
Kentucky organization mustincrease training for staff and
conduct neurological assessmentson potential organ donors every
12 hours, among other changes.
On Thursday the organizationsaid it received a report about
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government investigation.
We will fully comply with alltheir suggested recommendations,
it said in a statement.
The federal inquiry began lastfall after a congressional
committee heard testimony aboutthe Kentucky man, anthony Thomas
Hoover II, who had an overdosein 2021.
He was unresponsive for twodays before his family agreed to
donate his organs.
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Over the next two days theprocurement organization moved
towards surgery even as hisneurological condition improved.
The investigation found Duringone exam records show he was
thrashing on the bed.
He was sedated to preventfurther motion.
Oh my gosh.
The hospital staff wasextremely uncomfortable with the
amount of reflexes that thepatient was exhibiting.
(50:22):
Case notes read hospital staffkept stating that this was
euthanasia.
A procurement organizationcoordinator assured them it was
not.
When Mr Hoover was taken for,the retrieval records show he
cried, pulling his knees to hischest and shaking his head.
A hospital doctor refused towithdraw life support.
(50:43):
Mr Hoover eventually recovered,now 36, he has lingering
neurological injuries.
In interviews with the Times,two former employees of the
procurement organization saidhigher-ups tried to pressure the
doctor to continue theretrieval attempt.
If it had not been for thatphysician, we absolutely 1,000%
would have moved forward, saidone of them, natasha Miller, who
(51:05):
was in the room.
Three other former Kentuckyemployees said they'd seen
similar cases.
The investigation did not sayif there was pressure on doctors
who treated Mr Hoover.
The Network for Hope did notsay if there was pressure on
doctors who treated mr hoover.
The network for hope did notrespond to a request for comment
on that case.
I wonder why?
Yeah, shocking.
The kentucky attorney general'soffice also launched an
(51:25):
investigation into mr hoover'scase on thursday.
The office said that the reviewwas ongoing wow, what the fuck
this is my worst nightmare, canyou?
Speaker 2 (51:38):
I was just thinking like can you imagine someone
running into medical mishap?
Like well, everyone thought Iwas going for organ donation,
but I woke up and people weretrying to take my organs.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Oh my god, I used to.
I used to be like should Idonate my organs?
Because, selfishly, does thatmean they're not going to try to
keep me alive?
Then I was also.
Now I'm like, well, what if I'malready alive?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
they're just like dude, we need your heart oh yeah
, and they're, and they're liketoo bad lady scary oh man, no
organ donations are good.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
This is super rare, but um very scary and um just
happening now.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
So yeah, wow, that's crazy yeah yeah, you, yeah,
you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
You're welcome everyone for that nightmare.
Let's go back to our othernightmare.
So back to the case.
To recap, jen never knewanything much about Bart's past.
It was something that hadalways really bothered her, and
her family was about to learnBart's bestpt secret.
See, dr Carlton Hearn and hiswife Barbara knew Bart Corbin
(52:39):
extremely well.
14 years ago, when Bart was indental school, their daughter
Dolly had been involved withBart and broken up with him.
Dolly died shortly afterbreaking up with him.
The cause of death was agunshot wound to the head, oh my
God.
And the local police named themanner of death as a suicide.
But the Heron family knewotherwise.
(53:00):
For 14 years they'd beenwaiting to bring the truth to
light and bring Dr Corbin tojustice.
They knew that Bart Corbin hadkilled their daughter Dolly and
now he'd done it again andkilled Jen.
They wanted to ensure that thistime Bart would pay.
And that's part one Allocats.
We'll have more on this casenext week for part two.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Oh my God, you jerk Right when we're just clinging
on.
Oh my God, bejeweless, I wasnot expecting that.
I've definitely never heard ofthis case.
Well, oh my God, I have so manythat.
I've definitely never heard ofthis case.
Well, oh my god, I have so manythoughts.
Okay, so the Hearns must benearby this guy still.
(53:48):
If they're keeping tabs on him,maybe I'm sure we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I don't think they're in another state, but they yeah
.
They had spent 14 years reallykeeping an eye on things and, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
So there'll be an integral part to cracking the
case, perhaps, and maybe justicefor Dolly.
Maybe they can change her deathcertificate.
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I don'teven remember.
Did Bart see them?
Did Bart see them?
Did Bart see them?
He's going to poop his pantswhen he sees them.
(54:23):
Okay Well, I will be lookingforward to part two.
Holy cat's pajamas, this one'swild.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, and I mean mean honestly,wait till part two and then, if
you're still interested, readthe book, because I tell you
what ann rule is such a goodauthor she's so compassionate
and she gets.
She was the only journalistthat was allowed like direct
access to the families becausethey just, you know, bared their
(54:59):
souls to her and she got toknow everybody as if they were.
She treats the victims andtheir families like long lost
friends.
I don't know, there's somethingto her very tender way of
supporting the victims and theirfamilies that I just find so
heartwarming.
But anyway, yeah, so that's agood book to read.
(55:20):
Too Late to Say Goodbye, byAnne Rowe, anyway, but anyway,
yeah, so that's a good book toread.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Um too late to say goodbye, anyway, shall we?
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You want me to take it on, I do, and I'm so excited
for you to read this, becauseyou've read it, because I picked
it, because it's about a dentalassistant.
It's from a dental assistant.
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, so you guys.
She didn't share this documentwith me until literally before
we started hitting record, so Ihave not heard this before
either.
So let's do it All right, itsays.
Ladies, I am so loving your podand have been telling all my
dental colleagues about it aswell.
Thank you so much for that, anddidn't know we were going to be
(56:09):
so deep versed into the dentalworld.
But happy to be there with youguys.
We love teeth and dentalsystems.
We love teeth.
Oral health care so important.
Oral health care, so important.
Okay.
So then this person goes on tosay you guys wait, you guys
(56:30):
can't get enough of us latelyand we feel the same about you
too.
Lol, I'm here to say that notall dentists are evil, I swear,
okay.
So I've been a dental assistantfor over 15 years.
I've seen it all Peoplefainting at the sight of a
toothbrush, patients who thinkTikTok, oil pulling can replace
flossing.
The works I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Do you want it?
I have to look it up too.
So oil pulling is apparentlysomething that went viral, like
it goes back to like Ayurvedicmedicine, where they claim that,
like swishing essential oils inyour mouth, can get rid of all
your dental problems and cansolve mental fatigue or I don't
know all kinds of stuff that'snot been proven.
(57:07):
So you know, yeah, oh great,good.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
But this person goes on to say but this one still
tops my list.
A few years ago I had a newpatient come in, super chatty,
probably in her late 60s, let'scall her Barbara.
We're doing a full exam and Iask her to remove any dental
appliances.
She says oh sweetie, I don'thave dentures All mine.
Okay, cool, we go ahead withthe cleaning.
(57:36):
I start scaling her teeth, orher lower teeth, and think, wow,
these are in great shape.
Then I moved to the uppers andsomething feels off like
suspiciously off.
So I poke gently and I swear toGod, her entire upper teeth in
quotes come out in one cleanpiece, like a perfect white
dental mask just popped off.
(57:56):
Barbara stares at me wideeyeyed and goes well, I'll be
damned, I forgot I had a partial.
She forgot Her dentures.
Apparently they were sowell-fitted and comfortable that
she hadn't removed them inweeks.
She thought they were just hernew strong teeth.
Thanks to calcium chews andpositive thinking, I had to
(58:18):
excuse myself to go into thehallway because I was laugh
crying so hard that I had to gocompose myself and change my
soggy mask.
Moral of the story when apatient says they're all mine,
ask for a follow-up, becausesometimes they technically are.
They just came from a lab first.
Stay safe and stay suspiciousof your patient's teeth.
Love Molly.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Thank you, molly.
I you, molly, was that, though,we have a little light-hearted
story yeah, and reassurance frommolly that not all dentists are
evil.
Thank you, molly oh well,you've been yawning.
That might be the perfect segueinto our next promo it's like
um seven o'clock is my pumpkintime.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
Tell me, tell me about why this is perfect.
Listen, cozyearthcom, I amstill on that train.
I'm telling you, I have washedmy Cozy Earth bed set I don't
know how many times now.
And you know I had the idea oflike doing rotation with, like
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Especially in the summer it'skind of humid and I can't figure
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You get 41% off if you go toCozyEarthcom and use promo code
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suspicious, that's CozyEarthcompromo code S-U-S-P-I-C-I-O-U-S.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Just to clarify, because this is the first time
our promo code has not had theword stay in it.
Is it just suspicious?
Nope, it's just suspicious.
Interesting.
Okay, just wanted to clarifybefore people go shopping.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
The point I would say we may have a correction
section.
I don't remember changing that.
So if suspicious doesn't giveyou 21 or 41 off, uh add the
word stay add the word stay yeah, I'm glad somebody's on point.
This is what happens when it'seither um stay suspicious or
suspicious.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
So, yeah, just try both.
Hi, okay, well, um, I guessyou'll have us on the edge of
our seats until next week.
So until then, don't miss abeat.
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