Hello, hello everyone! This is a little bit of a mash-up episode with DogEared Book Club and my other podcast, Embody Your Soul. If you haven’t heard of Embody Your Soul, it is an off-shoot of my Psychic Medium practice, and a place to play, learn and expand spiritually. This guest / DogEared Leader is Krista Williams; co-host of Almost 30, Almost30 Membership and the creator of The Life Edit.
I was a part of Krista and her co-host, Lindsey’s, program, Your Podcast Pro. This was a 9-week intensive to either get your podcast off the ground or re-vamp it. At the time, I just had DogEared Book Club. But now that I have Embody Your Soul, and it’s the absolute perfect podcast for Krista to be one, I just had to take the opportunity.
I take the opportunity to dive into books and the important pieces of literature in Krista’s journey. We then get into the spiritual goodness—living with integrity, spiritual red flags, how to live aligned for you and your peers.
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Alexandra (00:10):
Hello.
Hello and welcome todo DogEared Book Club.
I'm your host, Alexandra Shelly also knownas Bebe by many and here on DogEared,
the mission is to connect you all tobooks, thought leaders and avid readers.
Oh my gosh.
I'm so happy to be here.
You guys.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
If you are a regular, thank you.
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You, you really have no ideahow much it means to me.
And if you are new to dog geared, welcome.
Welcome.
So happy that we have United.
So anyways, I'm reallyexcited about this leader.
She is someone that I have beenfollowing for quite some time.
She is also a former podcastcoach of mine, and I just.
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I just love her.
I love how she shows up in the world.
I love her work.
And not only is her work just badass.
She's also a badass person.
So her name is Krista Williams andshe is a co-host of Almost30 podcast.
Not only is it binge worthy, it is.
So beautiful, insightful, and itis just such a joy to listen to.
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It is definitely one of my regulars.
And if you haven't heard of almost30, she's a cohost with Lindsay
SIM kick and their two best friends,and they really just discuss all
the things of self-developmentspirituality, health, you know,
personal development, entrepreneurship.
All the cool shit, all the crazy shit.
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I don't know.
You know, I don't even know where I'mgoing with this, but anyways, Krista
Williams is also the creator of the lifeedit, which is a really badass program
that allows you to kind of unpack your bagwhen it comes to your habits and the ways
of living and showing up in the world.
And she also has one for the digital spacein terms of your phone and your computer
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and you know, how you function and justreally kind of cleaning up the clutter.
And then she also has aprogram for relationships.
And so I just, I love what she's doing.
She's really all about again, like.
That analogy of unpacking your bag andjust allowing yourself to repack it in
the most beautiful and intentional way.
And if you also haven't heard, Almost30has a really cool membership program
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and it comes with bonus episodes.
It comes with keynote speakers and,you know, seminars and also like
healing sessions and programs like it.
So, so cool.
And I also love how excited they are aboutit in terms of how it's been evolving.
And they're just, they're just amazing.
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So anyways, I met Christathrough, joining her and Lindsay's
little podcast, little podcast.
I'm such a Butthead.
Huh, their podcast program for, freshor, you know, current podcasters
like myself and others, it's calledyour podcast pro it was a nine week
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intensive program of 25 other podcasters.
And it was such a beautiful, sacredcontainer where really we just.
Launched ourself or really allowedourselves to kind of find our grounding,
find out kind of where we can, you know,again, edit where we can monetize or we
can kind of rewrite our brand or mission.
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And just, it was just amazing.
I've met honestly, some really some of.
I've met like a couple likelifelong friends through there.
I have been so deeply inspired byall the women and all the podcasters
and creators in this space.
And, now I have like a group of lifelonglike podcasters that I can reach out to,
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but also I now have Krista and Lindsay andmy network, and it's just such an honor.
So anyways, this episode.
A little bit of DogEared Book Club, butalso a little bit into embody your soul.
My other podcast for my mediumship work.
And we dive into the books that reallyinspired her, why reading is so sacred
and so special and so important.
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We also get into, Her ultimate book, thelaw of one and how that's really inspired
her path, how that's inspired her workand just, the key takeaways from there.
And then we also get into a littlebit of spirituality stuff in terms
of, you know, pure embodiment of yourtruth of your mission, you know,
spiritual integrity and just reallyliving out in the world just as.
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Just as a whole being.
So anyways, I really, reallyhope you enjoy this episode.
If you haven't already make sure togive dog yeared book club a follow and
a review and means the world to me, ifyou haven't already make sure to follow
me on instagram at @dogeared.bookclub,and definitely follow Krista at
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itskrista on Instagram and at almost30
on Instagram.
And again, if you haven't alreadymade sure to follow their podcast,
give it a review and give it alisten because it is absolutely worth
every single minute of your time.
And if anything resonates withyou DM me at, again, my handle
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on instagram @dogeared.bookclub,and let's get right into it
you guys.
First of all, thank you!
So great to chat with you again!
Krista Williams (05:28):
It feels like a coaching call.
Like we're just going to ripon and talk about all the
things and yeah, I'm excited.
I really just like, you were such ajoy to have in our accelerator program.
You just made such a difference in theenergy and the enthusiasm and positivity
and brought so much creativity.
And it's been cool to see yourevolution through it because when we
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first met, you were fully on DogEared.
That was going to be your thing.
And then now you're sort of transitioning.
And I think in the accelerator,it's really beautiful because it's.
It opens that opportunity upfor people where it gets people
really clear, really fast.
And that's what I think I sawwith you, you know, where you were
like, wow, I love this, but there'ssomething more, so it's cool to see
you on that step of your journey.
Alexandra (06:11):
Thank you.
Yeah, honestly, I know one one of thegirls I connect with on like a weekly
basis is Andrea and we're like, thiswas literally like the, the energy
we felt like it was, what was it?
We wouldend at 8PM or 7:00 PM.
And I was bouncing off the walls.
I was like, oh my God, I feel so good.
I was always so excitedafterwards, like so energized.
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So yeah.
Thank you for having me on there.
So to our listeners, just to kind ofmake them aware, this is going to be
like a little bit of spirituality,goodness, but then also a little bit
about books and spiritual literacyand the importance of reading
the importance of filling yourmind with really important texts.
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This will be kind of a half, halfa little bit of my passion with
books, half of my mediumship work.
So we're just going to get started.
One of the ways I love to start off thepodcast for embody or soul is what does
it mean to you to embody your soul?
Krista Williams (07:15):
To embody my soul.
Means for me to feel a sense ofpeace within me, you know, I think
for so long, I was so anxious and Ihad depression and I just felt like
my soul was so such an afterthought.
You know, I had such a mental gamein my life and such a mental agenda.
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And I remember when I got my Reikimaster teacher's level attunement,
I felt like for one of thefirst times in my life, my soul.
In my body.
Like I could feel my soul atthe bottom of my feet, through
my crown, in my entire body.
And I hadn't felt that much inmy life, just through trauma.
You know, negative thinking my mindsetand to have my soul really in my
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body just felt so powerful becausefor so many people, it doesn't feel
safe to have your soul in your body.
It's not natural for us.
Humans on earth, experiencing somuch trauma and grief and hard
times to feel like it's safefor that rich heart-centered
soul to be living in our body.
So I think it's when Ifeel that sense of peace.
That's when I really feel.
Alexandra (08:22):
I love that so much.
I really resonate with like, feeling yoursoul and your body and being okay with it.
Cause I was a huge part of my journeyand I had like literally medical things
happening and you know, doctors couldn'tdescribe it, but it was literally because
I was, I did not feel, I was afraid ofmyself, but now, you know, those things
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are gone and they don't happen anymore.
And it's just, I don't know.
It's wild.
So justkind of wanted to dovetailoff that, but I loved what you said.
So what is, oh my God.
Sorry.
The question was like, what is.
One of the most important, like texts thatyou've read and I'll be like, Law of One.
(09:05):
Yeah, I know.
Krista Williams (09:06):
Honestly, she already knows baby.
Alexandra (09:10):
I could change it up though.
Just let it out.
Girls say whatever you want.
Krista Williams (09:17):
So, you know it, but Law of One is a series of
five books and it's a channel textthat was written in the eighties.
In Kentucky, I was born in Ohioand it basically is this six
dimensional consciousness, called Ra.
And it's the same Ra thatwe know from history.
Ra, the Sungod or Ra fromEgyptian from the Egyptian times.
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So it's this being that hasreally existed throughout our
consciousness and existence.
And it talks a lot about how all thingsare one and in all experiences, negative
or positive, it's all part of the creator.
And it's all part of ourmeaning here in life.
And for me, it was reallypowerful to reframe.
Duality in our third dimensionalexperience because I had been so
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caught up in like, if God exists,why does bad things happen?
Why is there negativity on earth?
And that's very valid concernand question, and it's not like
everyday I feel comfortable withthe answer, but really it is that.
It all provides us the learning andgrowth opportunity that we need for
our Ascension and our evolution.
And when I think about the hardesttimes in my life and the most
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challenge I've been through inthe most traumatic experiences,
those have shaped me the most.
And those have changed me the most.
And that's really what we're looking for.
We're not looking for a beautifulexperience in life, on earth to just
have fun and play it's part of it,but it really is for our growth.
So it talks a lot about growth.
So.
Any of the five texts are myfavorite, but that is like the
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most transformative for me.
Alexandra (10:49):
I know that is definitely, I'm like looking out of my book.
So I'm like, I have literally 7million books to read, but that is a
hundred percent a text I need to read.
And what do you think, maybe I'mtrying to think how to phrase this.
What do you think, not enoughpeople know about the Law of One
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and what, maybe not like overrated,but it's like, okay guys, like it's
like what they're focusing on is.
I don't want to say nothing.
The law of one is important, butyou kind of know what I mean.
Krista Williams (11:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of do, because you know,in love one, it talks a lot
about the Ascension process.
And I think so many people getcaught up on Ascension as like
a means to escape or experience.
Really it's like not looking atit as a way to get out or a way
to bypass or a way to avoid all ofthe parts of our Ascension process.
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So I think people get really caught up onthe Ascension process because in of one,
it talks about how to ascend and Ascensionand like what it feels like to ascend.
But I think the part that people.
That really is something.
I think people need to understand moredeeply as freewill and freewill as like
a basic core principle of our universe.
And I think in our planet onearth, there's so much violation
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of freewill where people feel likethey can tell people what to do.
They can judge others for doingthings that they wouldn't do.
They can control people.
They can manipulate people.
They can.
You know, right in theBible, thou shall not.
They can you know, tell peoplethey should or shouldn't do things.
And really those are all violationsof freewill and under the creator's
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experience or watch, we should be able todo whatever we want, even if we totally
don't agree with someone else doing it.
And it goes as, as far as extreme as yourimagination will allow in the law of one.
Not that I'm saying Ican don't any of this.
It's not that it's just like, We needto allow people to do what they have to
do as part of their own unique path toAscension or to, you know, to greater
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love and understanding of the universe.
And so I think free will is like a hugepart of it that people really don't
understand as well as they should.
Alexandra (13:04):
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
You said that because yeah, even Indifferent ways that are so parallel.
Like, you know what, I feel like whatwe've been seeing often, or at least
what I've been seeing often on Instagram,which I really want to speak to a
little bit in this podcast is just,you know, the spiritual red flags,
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you know, I look at like, there's thisone post and I was dying, laughing.
I'm just like, oh my God, this isunreal, but it's so true because.
People forget, like thewhole Ascension thing.
It's like, no, our purposeis to be on planet earth.
Like our feet are on the ground.
And you know how people are like, I don'teven connect with my human self anymore.
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It's like, that's not even real.
Like what?
Your purpose is to live in realityand create change in reality.
But spirituality is just simply a tool.
It's a beautiful tool tolike, you know, assist us.
Process of growing.
So yeah, I love that.
You said, I know the word ascensionis like, definitely over used.
Krista Williams (14:07):
I know it really is, and
honestly, it takes a long time.
So that's the thing is like, whenyou read the texts, it's like we're
in, we're in third dimension ordensity, the Law of One calls them
densities for the shortest amountof time of any of the other octaves.
So it's like, even if it's themost short, it seems so long in
this experience sometimes, youknow, we feel like it's so long.
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What, it's all, when we're lookingat it from the higher perspective,
really on purpose and reallyon time and really meaningful.
But I think sometimes we get so caughtup in the ego, in the human where we're
like, oh my God, get me out of here.
This is like miserableand everything like that.
But yeah.
Yeah, we have it better in historythan ever before, as far as like
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poverty levels, like sickness levels,opportunities for growth and food
and consciousness and all of that.
So I think sometimes we're justlooking at it with a negative lens.
Alexandra (15:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
Also something a practitioner said tome recently was, you know, because I was
talking to him about, you know, In theBible apparently mediumship is not of God.
And he is like an ultimate, sucha beautiful Christian soul.
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And he was.
I don't remember thatat all, to be honest.
And he's like, I also don't think Godis that trivial, which I really loved.
And that also reminded me of likewhat you were saying with Law
of One is it's just semantics.
Like it's a way of really allowing you tovisualize, so you can understand and take
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the lesson, but they're not that trivial.
And I think that's what's happeningis I feel like we're taking these texts
that are just, you know, information andbeauty and source, but then we just kind
of make it, we kind of ingrain our egoand our human in it and make it a little
rough.
Krista Williams (16:01):
Yeah.
That's what happens.
I think too.
People confuse.
Like when we say like, why wouldGod allow all this to happen?
It's like, God allows,but God does not do so.
It's like when people bad things happen.
We are the ones that are doing it.
It's not like, God, is that personthat's going to stop or control.
Like I think we sometimes think thathumans are God and God is humans.
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Like, yes, we are God, butwe're a fractal of God.
So it's like, we sometimes get thatconfused where we're looking for that.
But in the Bible, does it say in a passageabout mediumship, I'm curious about that
Alexandra (16:35):
Apparently, you know I'm not trying to like put anyone on
blast, but In my immediate familywas like Bebe, like my good friends
that are Christian are terrified.
And it's just interesting becauseI mean, I, it made me almost like,
well, should I study the Bible?
Like, should I know more?
And I'm , well, no, like I'm not here touse God as my sword, or as a weapon to
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like defend myself, I'm just gonna use.
Not even use, I'm just going toembody my connection with source,
as I know this is to be true.
And I know it's pure.
Then I think that's probablywhy maybe the whole thing, like
what do you, what do you say?
I feel like with everyone, the kind ofwhere toxicity and ego is getting really
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slippery with spirituality is that'swhere I think people, or Christians or
anyone gets a little terrified of it.
Cause it's like, you're kind oflosing your mind, which yeah.
Like there's , unfortunately there wasJohn of God and his ego got incredibly
slippery, but it's just, yeah.
Krista Williams (17:40):
I think people out, you know, when you're in such a and I
don't, I don't hate on Christianity atall, but you know, But it's like when
you have a control of your experiencethrough this lens of Christianity where
you understand this is good, this is bad.
This is what we say.
This is what we don't say.
This is what I do.
This is what I don't do.
And then you have someonethat's like, actually they're.
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Different realms, differentbeings, different types.
God loves everyone, you know, God alive.
You know, it just is reallydisorienting for someone that's
oriented their entire experienceon these certain set of beliefs.
So mediumship I'm sureis very scary for them.
And also too, when you're a Christianor I grew up Catholic, you have an
idea of good and evil and there is theexperience of good and evil in third
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density, but you also see like, hell,so you think of demons and all of that,
which do, from my perspective exists,there are negative entities, but you
really look at it from that lens.
So anything that is not of God,sort of in that framework is dark,
you know, is the enemy they callit is like something that's bad.
So it makes sense that they would bescared or judgmental, but you really
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have to do whatever you feel calledto do when you're called by spirit.
Alexandra (18:52):
Absolutely.
I'm right there with you.
So when it comes to texts and, youknow, literacy and understanding who
you are, how is, I mean, with, youcan even obviously frame in whatever
way and whatever book calls to you,or if it's like kind of a general
thing, how has that allowed you tocenter into yourself and inspire.
(19:14):
Yeah, I'm really excited to see your,your new tarot deck come out and all
your other beautiful, exciting projects.
But I would love to hear how literacyhas just informed you just as a person,
how that's inspired you and inspiredjust the work you do in the world.
Krista Williams (19:32):
Yeah.
I love that you talk about this so muchbecause, it's been a goal of mine since we
started the podcast, you know, we startedsix years ago when I would hear myself on
the podcast and I'd be like, oh my God.
And the way that I spoke and the wordsthat I said, just felt like, my "not self"
you know, felt like my, not who I was.
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And so over the past six years I've beenreading so much more and practicing being
a great speaker and using my vocabularyand feeling like the words were sufficient
enough for what I was trying to convey.
And so literacy has been huge.
Also, the fact that we interviewauthors all the time and we talk about
health and wellness and spirituality.
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So we have to stay abreast oflike the most beautiful texts
and all of these amazing things.
And, you know, I just find that the morethat I read, the more that I understand
that there are so many messages thatare just repeated in a different way.
And that nothing is really original.
It's all sort of like a differentflavor of something else, which
is actually really beautiful andcomforting from, from a perspective.
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So I think if people want to get aheadin life, if you want to feel like
you're interesting, or you're stayinginterested in your experience or your
learning or growing, you can listento podcasts and YouTube for sure.
But I think there's nothingreally like a book or reading
something that you really, really
love.
Alexandra (20:51):
Oh, my gosh.
Absolutely.
So I'm going to ask like one ofmy favorite questions I usually
ask on DogEared, but what isyour earliest memory of reading?
Krista Williams (21:01):
Oh my God, this is a good one.
Oh my gosh.
I loved Raul doll.
Yes, dude.
We're all doll.
I remember BFG the witchesJames and The Giant Peach.
And, there was a few, I readevery single world bell book.
And I just remember like havingthis experience of just like wonder
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and amazement where I could betotally transported into a different
thing and then that evolved intoHarry Potter and that evolved
into, you know, different things.
But I just was like, I loved itmore than I did anything else.
Like I loved it more than TV.
I loved it more than anything else.
And as like someone that is spiritualand loves to use my imagination, it was
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just so enriching and fulfilling andI loved that I could just be sitting
and totally engulfed in this new thing.
So it was Roald dahl waslike my favorite books ever.
My favorite author.
Alexandra (21:55):
Authors.
I love that.
And it's so I, you even saying like thewitches, I'm like, wait, I read that
book ages ago and I remember loving it.
Yes.
I need to, I need to read that book again.
He kind of, I might be, I might bewrong, but for some reason I, I tie
him like in similarities to what.
(22:16):
Favorite authors, Kurt Vonnegut.
Like he has kind of like that, likesatire black humor kind of thing.
Yeah.
Krista Williams (22:24):
That's weird.
Well, bell was like very, Iactually was going to read , my
mom read about an autobiography.
He was like kind of a weird bird.
There was like a weird, he was kind ofweird and it was, yeah, like someone,
the witches was pretty dark and hisability to tell these really dark sort
of themes and messages at times inthese books was just so fascinating.
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So yeah, I mean, if you're writing abook, I always think to a channeling and
mediumship, like a lot of these authorsthey're tapping into a consciousness.
If they're pulling these experiences,like game of Thrones or like JRR Tolkien,
or like a lot of sci-fi and fantasy,like they're very much channeling
something like Star Wars And so whenwe talk about spirituality, like it,
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can't not be spiritual to write a booklike these books that we read that
are so out there, and so experiential.
Alexandra (23:19):
I love that you said that.
Yeah, I know I was talkingto a friend years ago.
He's one of my dearestfriends from high school.
He's so incredibly giftedand like music and poetry.
And we've really connected.
As you know, just kind of artistic,you know, friends who are like we're
depressed and we love writing or whatever,
Krista Williams (23:41):
That was a whole vibe, I think that was cool then to feel that way.
Alexandra (23:46):
It totally was.
And then honestly, my viewcompletely shifted when I read
Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
And she's like, what,what are we doing guys?
Like, creativity is a dance.
Like it wants to play with you.
Like it's not a battle, you know?
And it made me feel so much betterbecause even just the perspective
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of, our parents' generation is,oh, like the starving artist.
And it's like, no, we actually,it's not a little business.
It's not a little, art business.
It's like, we are creators andthank goodness you have us because
where would like color and magic be?
Krista Williams (24:24):
Big Magic is one of the best.
Like I just really loved it too for.
Being the creative and the entrepreneur,especially because I quit my
full-time job to pursue my passion atthe time was blogging and I failed.
Like I just could not make an incomethat was suspicion enough for me.
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And I remember readingthat book and was it, wow.
I was putting pressure on mycreativity by quitting my job.
And after that, I got anothernine to five and I worked for two
years while we built almost 30.
So we, I was basically doing two full-timejobs and it seriously was like major for
us in our growth that I didn't have tocount on Almost30 for money right away.
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And it could evolve intowhat it was naturally and it
could feel, feel really good.
And so Big Magic is like a must forany creative or entrepreneur, I think.
Alexandra (25:16):
Hundred, a hundred percent agree.
So.
I want to get into a little bitof a, the spiritual juiciness
of what we are seeing today.
I would just love to hear yourview on performative spiritualism,
because it's been so interesting.
And I remember going into I'm amedium, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm
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going to be friends with all theLightworkers , blah, blah, blah.
They're also cool.
Then I'm like, wait, actually.
It's almost like you joina sorority, anything, it'd be
friends with all your sisters, butyou're like, you know, whatever.
But it was just interesting.
And it's actually just like anyone,even just having your bridesmaids,
it's like, okay, like, Girls, thiscommunity is actually so, so small.
(26:05):
And so niche should I always haveseen myself as someone with a
ton of friends, but now I'm like,okay, it's really paring down.
Even one of the things I wasdealing with the last couple of
weeks is like this pre grievanceof like, wow, like my friendships.
Are really going to change.
And my connections are really goingto change based on, integrity and
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you know, I guess I kind of wentin like a few directions, but...
Krista Williams (26:28):
But that's, what's interesting too, you know, so I
think there's so many differentthings there because what happens
when we become spiritual, and thisalso happens in religion, is where we
feel like we're better than people attimes, because we're more spiritual.
And I think that's the trap ofspirituality where you're like, I'm
praying, I'm meditating, I'm connected.
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I'm doing all the things to be spiritual,which could be very truthful where you
like, wow, you are deeply connectedto your soul in God, or you could be.
Using it as a way or yourego sometimes use it as use.
It uses it as a way to make yourselffeel better than people and continue
to keep you separate because when youbecome spiritual or awakened, the ego has
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less of a place to hide because you'restarting to really understand the ego.
A lot of our spiritual journey isreally understanding and working
with our ego because our ego is,is so much of our experience.
And so, you know, we can start tolose friends on our spiritual journey
because we're awakening and becauseit's confusing for people, or it's
scary for people because they're feelingstuck and they're feeling intimidated
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by your light or by your awakening,or it could also be because we start
to become spiritual and we feel like.
Different than people, better than peopleor that they're not aligned or they're
not awakened or they're not conscious.
So it's such a dance that we have to do.
And I often catch myself inthat way sometimes as well.
And I remember when I becamevegan, you know, 12 years ago
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I've been vegan for like 12 years.
I was totally like that.
I was like, oh my God,everyone that eats meat is.
Just so unconscious and so blah, blah.
And I have these judgments and whenwe feel like we're doing something
that's good, this has happens in all ofculture and people, morally superior,
we then feel like we can judge people.
We then feel like we can shame people.
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So it's always being mindful ofwhere we feel like we're morally
superior than everyone because, beinghuman is a spiritual experience and
everyone's path is totally different.
So if we're awakening in thislifetime, it doesn't mean that we're
better than, or worse than people.
So we have to be conscious to be inthe trap, but there is performative
spirituality where people see onInstagram that you can post certain
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posts or say certain things.
And it will garner traction becausemost people are really interested to
know themselves or they want to feelhappy or they want to feel whole.
If you're telling them you're goingto be happy, you're going to know
yourself, you're going to be allthese things by being spiritual,
then they're probably going to followyou and try to do all these things.
And so people can perform to be spiritualand not really be spiritual because
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our idea of spirituality is sometimesconfused with like, self-care where
we're like, okay, meditate, pray, do areel where you're talking about oneness,
do all these things, but maybe in reallife, you're not actually like that.
So it's such a tricky game that we play.
And as someone that is in thisspace, I've met people that, are not
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spiritual, but play spirituality online.
And I've met people that literally wouldnever say that they were spiritual,
but are the most spiritual people.
And for me, that's really like a senseof peace and truth and grounded-ness
and love and gratitude for themselves.
Alexandra (29:33):
Yes.
I, I love, I love that.
And I know that's something, my,my actually my previous mentor told
me is, there's no spiritual lifeor life, it's just life itself.
And it brought me so much comfort because,I thought I was doing things wrong?
I'm like, well, I'm reading, like Oneness,I'm not reading, you know, I don't know.
(29:58):
It just I'm into this and they'reinto that and am I doing this right?
And I know you did an episodeon it's like, should I be dating
someone that's also spiritual?
And it's like, no, definitely not.
There's like this wholeness and justbeing a part of life and holding
these values and embodying it.
So I, I love.
I love that you said that
Krista Williams (30:17):
Yeah, the dating thing.
Do I remember that with my husband?
Because my husband for 10 yearsnow, and I definitely have awakened
as part of our being together.
And I remember I'd be like,why aren't you meditating?
Why aren't you doing yoga?
Like, why aren't you havinggreen juice, all of these things.
And what I didn't realize is that.
I was sort of outside reaching forspirituality because I thought it was
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coming from the outside, but he wasjust like embodying it and being at
peace for themselves and checking inlike, oh, does this feel good for me?
No, it doesn't feel good.
Does this feel good for me?
No, it doesn't feel good.
And actually he was being more spiritualthan I ever was because I kept looking for
outside and he was just always going in.
Alexandra (31:00):
Oh my God.
No, I love that too.
Cause even I know my partner.
He is actually like, he definitelywouldn't describe himself as
spiritual, but he's so observantand so methodical and so empathetic.
I don't even think herealizes how empathetic he is.
And it's like, he is really.
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Such an embodiment of God.
I mean, if, if I told that to him,he'd be like, what, like the best part.
Cause he's like, whatare you talking about?
I'm a shit head.
But like, yeah.
I love that.
Krista Williams (31:34):
I'm so glad you have that
experience, too.
Too.
Alexandra (31:36):
Oh, hardcore.
I mean, I actually did episode on itwith Andrea and she's, she's really good.
So much, beautiful advice on it becauseyeah, I would be like, well, how is,
how is he taking care of his mind?
You know, why is he like, whyis he buying like processed food
when he knows I can't eat that.
And , I would take it personally and it'slike, no, he eats it because he likes it.
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And like, he's gonna,like, he will live with it.
And, you know, If he, I don't know,because so much of me is like, if I had
the ability to just buy the groceries,I would but , you know what, Beebs?
You are not controlling him.
He is an adult.
And you also don't live together.
Krista Williams (32:17):
Freewill and pleading on someone's free will when you're like,
you should do this, Justin, my husband'salways like, don't say you should, because
I'd always be like, you can do this.
And I did learn from that.
I'm like, oh wow, that's so true.
Because I was like, just very muchimpeding on his experience by being like,
you should do this, you should do that.
And yeah, in the Law of One it has thisreally beautiful chapter where , so Ra
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was being channeled through this womannamed Carla and Ra, they were in the
channeled state and Ra was being channeledthrough Carla and Ra was saying how her
energy was low because she had given upbuying new things for that month for lent.
And he said that because she wasgiving it up from a lack mentality,
rather than an abundance mentality,it had lowered her vibration.
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So she did it out of a state ofshame and guilt where she was like,
I shouldn't buy anything for a month.
I shouldn't do anything.
And because her energywas shame and guilt.
That's what Ra was having to be channeledthrough, which was much harder than
if it was like abundance and love.
So we always have to check inwith like our intention behind
things, because those matter.
So with your boyfriend, as an example,it's like him eating processed foods.
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If you have an energy and intentionof like love and joy and expression
and nourishment, when you're doingthat, your experience of that food in
your body is going to be so differentthan probably ours, where we're
like, we're gonna die a slow death.
If we don't process.
Alexandra (33:41):
Oh my gosh.
And so, you know, as someone you've,you've been in like creative space
for a while, you've talked to likeso many amazing people you're even
creating like your own, your ownproject based on your work and like
your inspiration from a spiritual text.
I mean, what has been some keytakeaways, and what has been
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some of the greatest struggles?
Krista Williams (34:07):
Yeah.
So I'm making two decks actually.
So I'm making a tarot deck, a standardtarot, and then a Law of One deck.
So when I started to make the deck, Istarted to make a loved one deck, but then
I realized when I studied the Law of One.
That the Law of One tarot is actuallyvery different than how we do tarot.
It's more so an architectural study.
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So there's these 22 archetypeswithin the Law of One.
That basically document the Ascensionprocess that we're supposed to
study to support our Ascension.
And in tarot, we use it for moredivination purposes, more, you
know, like answering questions.
More just card readingrather than like a study.
So I realized I'm like, oh myGod, I have to make two decks.
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So I've been making thesetwo decks for two years now.
They're finally off to the printerand we're going to be launching
them in the next couple of months.
And what I've learned is like so much,
I've just learned just patience.
And I think we see people onthe internet and we're like, I'm
launching this, I'm doing this.
I have this about.
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It looks so fast.
It looks so overnight, but realthings that we love that are
meaningful to us take a while.
And this has taken a while for me,it's taken a while to write all
the copy to crosscheck, to study,like there's over a hundred pages
of copy with something like this.
So it's like in each deck,there's over a hundred pages.
So it's like, it's just.
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How can we take the pressureoff of us to do something?
And, when are we doing somethingfor the validation rather
than just because we love it?
And so we always have to come backto like, if no one saw this or no
one bought the decks or no one didanything, would I be proud of it?
And I always am tryingto come back to that.
So I've learned so much aboutpatience, and also, I think after we
launched the decks, I want to teachpeople how to do decks because it's
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actually, a lot harder than I thought.
You have to be very specific about theprinting, the edges, the paper type,
you know, the card type, the boxes.
And there's just a lot.
So I want to help people, becauseI feel like a lot of people
have decks in their heart.
They want to bring through whetherit's oracle cards or, you know,
animal totems or anything like that.
(36:15):
So I'd love to support people in doingdecks, but I've learned a lot and I'm
just so excited for it to come outbecause it's been such a long time coming.
Alexandra (36:22):
My
gosh.
So exciting.
I selfishly want to ask more aboutthe deck, but I personally, like, I
don't really know anything about tarot.
I just like have a friendthat does taro for me.
So, I mean, if I were to pick up your deckand just use it today, like how would I go
about it?
Yeah, I think you would useit for readings probably.
(36:43):
So what you would normally do is, youknow, you open up the container for your
reading, kind of set the intention withthe person that you're working with.
And then you'd probably pullcards to clarify or validate what
you what you were picking up on.
So you'd be like, okay, I'mkind of feeling like they need
to Like there's a partner.
They should be working on a projectwith, and you're like, okay.
And then you just pull a card andyou're like, oh, two of cups, perfect.
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Confirmed.
You know, you're like, okay.
I feel like they should quit theirjob, but I don't know how to say this.
Okay.
Tower card.
Perfect.
And so it really helpsconfirm your intuitive hits.
And that's what really tarot is.
It's like, for me, it's beensuch a beautiful practice in
synchronicities and being like,okay, I kind of feel this going on.
Now.
The cards are also saying this to me.
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This is helpful for me.
Bringing confidence to my intuitive hits.
Krista Williams (37:31):
So I would definitely, I, you know, of course I want to
get you a deck when you have it, butuse it for your readings for people
so that it can support you and justbringing the most clarifying message.
Alexandra (37:41):
I love that.
I'm so excited.
And I actually, I wrote somethingabout it the other, the other day,
cause it's just so intriguing.
I think.
You know, people are, especially,honestly, when I was working at
mystic journey, it was so fascinating,you know, watching, I remember
seeing this one customer come in.
Like every time I was there, I mean, Ionly worked there three days a week, so
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I don't know if she came in every day orlike a couple of times a week, but she
would always be getting something new orI remember, one time I stayed a little
bit later because this woman was like,oh, I'm getting these crystals because my,
my brother-in-law or someone has cancer,
and my, my boss was like, Beebs, yougot to kind of ask her to leave.
Cause it's like closing time, but it wasinteresting because not only did I see
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like, you know, oh, wonderful wholenessin the community, but it's like people
reaching for these tools, if they workand I just thought it was so interesting
because really at the end of the day,it's Intention and how you use them.
But I would love to kind of hear yourthoughts on like you're creating a
tool for people and, you know, I think.
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What also happens with what Ibelieve with spiritual performance,
performative spiritualism, pphhf!
Is like, we just make thesekind of the end all be all.
And I was at a point where I'm like, well,I know, first of all, I know nothing.
I know Jack about astrology.
I know like a little bit,but really not anything.
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And I was like, ashamedof , should I know more?
And I'm like, well, no, maybelater, when I'm interested, but.
I knew as I was kind of going off, butI would just love to hear what your
Krista Williams (39:18):
There's so many different modes and methodalities of
spirituality and in the Law of One,
it's interesting because Ra talks abouteither choosing Kabbalah, or astrology
or tarot to study our Ascension.
And so picking one of those,whatever you feel most called to.
And it's interesting that Kabbalahwas in there because I didn't
expect that to be in there.
(39:39):
But yeah, it's reallywhat feels called to you.
And for me, I use tools intermittently.
Like I'm not, I don'tsubscribe to any all the time.
I don't do something forever.
I know astrology, I know human design.
I know, you know, tarot enough,that feels good for me, but
I don't get like obsessed or.
Outsource my intuition to them.
Cause I think that's what happensa lot of times is people give
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their power away to these tools.
Alexandra (40:03):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I think, I think that's, what'shappening with so many things now.
I mean, even I had an amazingconversation with this one woman
named Chioma and she coins herselfas like the mindful bookkeeper.
And I love it because she, she recentlydid a podcast with Chelsea Riffe on like
is money mindset making people broke.
(40:25):
And it was just so fascinatingbecause it's like, People are
serving these tools, but it's like,no, the tool should serve you.
You know, you should, it'slike a dance with the tools.
It's not like, well, I'mnot manifesting, right.
Or like, I'm not using my crystals right.
It's like, no, it's just,an intention setting.
Krista Williams (40:43):
100%.
Yeah.
I want to listen to thatbecause I feel like.
Yeah.
It's a lot of times it's like peoplejust regurgitating what they hear.
So they're like, I'm amoney mindset, coach.
I know all the steps, but like there'sa difference in embodiment of things and
really like knowing something truthfully.
And a lot of times people that are very,calculated about the way that they move
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are sometimes the people that I trustthe most, because it's very serious.
If you're working with someone on theirmindset or they working with someone on
their money, you know, as an example,like that's very important to people.
So if people are spending moneyto be doing something with you.
It should be very integrated, you know?
And I think that's, what's hard in ourspace is that there's no real regulations.
Not that they want there to be, butthere's no one like keeping an eye
(41:31):
on who's in integrity and who's not,
Alexandra (41:34):
oh my God.
Yeah.
Like even like mentioning that earlier,like that word integrity is coming up.
So, so much for me just seeing,like, I think what happens.
Is the way I've, I've realized basedon, you know, honestly, my psychiatrist
was like Bebe, so you live out in theworld and you tell your story like
(41:56):
100%, which is wonderful and you'revery trusting, but most of the time
people are out in the world and thefirst time you meet them, it's like 20%.
And then he kind of describesit to me as like a snail shell.
It's like me, it's been sucha journey for me, starting out
here instead of in this spiral.
(42:17):
And even like, that actuallyanalogy came with me for dating.
Like when I started, you know, goingon dates and claiming partners,
he's like, you got to startout here and not in the center.
And now I'm realizing that I'm like,wow, I really got to start and be so much
better with starting out here and who Icoin is like, oh my God, they're amazing.
(42:37):
It's like, no, start to havemore of a, like a observant
eye instead of jumping the gun.
Cause I get so excited so easily it,especially now, I think also all this
spiritual stuff is so pretty and exciting.
Like crystals are cute and like, cardsare cute, but it's like, no, what is
like the heart and the soul in it.
Krista Williams (43:00):
Yeah.
I agree with that.
And I think sometimes we kind ofget, when something's beautiful,
we're like, oh, I shouldn'tlike it because it's beautiful.
It's like, no, like God createdbeauty for us to love it.
And for us to be like,whoa, this is beautiful.
Like flowers are unreal.
Flowers are so beautiful.
Crystals are so beautiful andthat's okay to love and experience
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beauty from in this lifetime.
And I think sometimes we thinksomething's frivolous or stupid if
it's beautiful, but it's like, no.
No, no,
Alexandra (43:30):
no, no.
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
Yeah.
I also love that you said flowersbecause flowers are like my favorite,
like when I am walking around myneighborhood, I am like, like smelling
flowers with people's gardens.
Like I wonder if you're watching.
It's so good.
That's what life's about!
So, oh, You could have, and Iwas kind of like going back to
(43:53):
like some book book, goodness.
But if you could have someone writeabout your life, who would it be?
Oh my God.
That's a really, really good question.
Who do I know that's a beautiful writer.
My friend, Jenna Zoe of my humandesign is a beautiful writer.
(44:14):
My friend, Jordan youngeris a beautiful writer.
Yeah.
There's so many beautiful writers.
I think probably them like asmy friends that I really trust
and know deeply and intimately.
Yeah.
What about you?
(44:36):
Oh my gosh.
For some reason, the first person thatcame to mind was like Toni Morrison.
Cause I just, she, when I was likeready to read her, it's it reawakened
this creative fire in me, like, ohmy gosh, you know, she's so poetic.
It's like, she's sewingyou into her skin.
She's so close and it wasfunny, cause I read before I
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write her, I read Joan Didion.
That was like a littlepeeved at Joan Didion.
Cause she keeps you at an armsdistance, which is , so her style
and I was like, oh, I don't like her,but now I'm like, okay, I kind of, I
understand where she's coming from.
And that's like her veryjournalistic style almost.
I also want to say maybetoo, Stephanie Danler.
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I love it because.
Kind of young she's in her thirtiesand her first book, bittersweet was.
Like I've always loved reading andstuff, but when I read Sweetbitter
in college, it was just so classic.
It's like coming of age, moving to anew city, you know, like it was this
girl working in a restaurant and justkind of experiencing like the rough
(45:43):
and toughness and like you know,the it's like, why do I it's like,
I'm rubbing sand between my fingers.
It's like how granular and rough humanexistence can be and just functioning
as a young woman in a new city.
And it's , sounds cliche,but it was just so good.
And then I read her autobiographyStray and just, I loved it because
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she just splays herself open,but her writing is so beautiful.
And I think that's what I'm,that's what I'm starting to do.
Like, not like obviously reveal like deep,dark or personal secrets about myself on
Instagram, but I am so embracing, just
being so real.
Because I'm just so over, when someonesays one thing and then they post
(46:26):
another, I literally, it's just...
it sounds so lame.
It's like icky.
It's like, why?
You're literally reinforcing the bad partabout social media and I'm just, like
these authors, but then also being inthis book community, like literally,
the woman that I've met in this communityare so fricking amazing and brilliant.
(46:50):
And we just embrace each other and allof our flaws and our, nuances and stuff.
So it's almost a combinationof, I would, oh my God.
Sorry.
Oh my God.
I'm so happy.
An animal made a guest appearance.
She did a little energy.
Krista Williams (47:10):
She did a little energy
Alexandra (47:11):
work.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I love it.
But yeah, like a combination of likeeither those authors or even some of the
girlfriends I've made on Bookstagram.
Cause they're such beautiful writers.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Krista Williams (47:26):
I mean being a beautiful writer is such a unique cause it's, it's
writing in your own voice, but more.
And it has its own energy signature,you know, I think that's why Glennon
Doyle's Untamed really resonatedfor people because it felt, so
much of her voice, but then it alsorelated to everyone else's voice.
(47:46):
So yeah, I love your answer to that.
I love how like the specificity of it.
Alexandra (47:51):
Ah, thank you.
Yeah.
You know, it's, it's funny.
I feel like it was, I went to this, Igot a facial from this really, really
cool aesthetician like a month ago.
And she's also like this energyworker, psychic medium, she's such a
trip, but she was like, you're reallybeautiful soul, but a little tormented.
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And I'm like, yeah, that's definitelyme, I'm always reflecting and undoing.
And I think that's like this weird torturepart of the artist or someone just being
really sensitive, as I'm constantly...
us on Bookstagram,
we're always joking about booksthat just like rip our hearts out.
We're like, we love it!
Krista Williams (48:33):
Yeah.
That's
the thing it's like being carefulto not make your personal growth,
masochism where you're just totally.
Yeah.
Cause it also makes you feel morehuman when you are like a masochist.
Alexandra (48:45):
Oh my God, absolutely , a masochist..
Oh my God.
I haven't heard that word in a long time.
That's some good, good stuff.
So, okay, a couple of final questions.
If you could gift a book to someone,anyone dead or alive, who would it be
and why would you give 'em this book?
Krista Williams (49:05):
If I would gift a book to anyone let's see,
who would I give to book to?
This is so weird, but my grandma had areally bad eating disorder and I just,
(49:28):
you know, I think in her generation itwas more normalized and there's a book
that was really powerful for me calledWomen Food and God by Janine Roth and
it's just one of my favorite books ever.
It's like, just talks about moving beyond,you know, the physical and our obsession
with the physical and our obsessionwith our weight and the never ending
goal to always be smaller than we are.
(49:49):
And I feel like it just wouldhave been really beautiful
for her to be able to read it.
Alexandra (49:54):
I love that so much.
I've definitely, definitelyheard of that book.
I forget where, but that's one...
yeah, I know.
That's one.
I would like to read, cause I know notthat like years ago, I definitely, I
wouldn't say I had an eating disorder,but it wasn't the healthiest relationship
with food, but that's just a book.
I just know.
I just want to read and justlearn more about, because I love
Krista Williams (50:16):
that.
It's amazing.
Alexandra (50:19):
I love it so much.
And so this is like embody your soultheme, because that was DogEared-ish.
So, because I don't want to make it sounddark, but when you finally cross over and
you look back at your life and like whatyou've done, how do you want to leave it?
(50:40):
How do you seek to leave people?
And, yeah.
Krista Williams (50:45):
I think, I don't focus on my legacy or how I impacted
others really as much, becausethat's kind of like, we have only
have so little control over that.
And for me sometimes, I don't know.
I'm always like when people are soobsessed with leaving a legacy, it's
like your ego wants to leave a legacy.
I don't think your spirit reallycares about leaving a legacy.
(51:06):
So I always am just focused onlike, what would my soul say to God?
And like, what would God say to me?
I know there's parts of my journeythat I really am sort of avoiding, or,
you know, not fully integrating rightnow or just not fully stepping into.
So I'd want to feel like I did it all.
So.
Maybe I don't have to come back...
Alexandra (51:28):
stop!
Oh my God.
You're like, am I
done yet?
Krista Williams (51:31):
No, honestly, like I am and I've checked in and
been like, Hey, like what's up?
How's it going in there?
Like this, this and this.
I'm like, okay, cool.
I'll be back soon.
Alexandra (51:41):
I am literally dying, that is so funny.
You're like, I thought, I thoughtit was over 47 more lessons later.
Krista Williams (51:49):
Yeah.
Honestly, they're like, and thisis the lessons are so simple.
It's like patients God, you know,compassion and they're, they're
like way more simple than we think.
But yeah, that's what I want.
Alexandra (52:01):
No, I love that too.
That's a, that's a really, reallygreat reminder because even, yeah.
You know, people in my parents' generationthere's so about leaving legacies.
And that's what I just, Iloved about your answer.
Cause it's such a reminder, cause Idon't know if I've like been obsessed
with leaving a legacy as well, but justmore in terms of I just know I'm meant
(52:23):
to really create something beautifuland I'm just excited to share it.
And I just have.
I just want it to matter, evenif it's like to, two people.
But yeah.
I love that, because you vocalizesomething that I really connected with.
Thank you guys, so, so much fortuning in, it means the world to me.
If you haven't already make sureto follow this podcast on Apple
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Make sure to also leave a review, DM me.
I would love to hear your thoughts.
I would love to hear suggestions.
I'm so excited and so ready tojust continue serving you also
definitely make sure to followKrista @itskrista on Instagram and
listen to her and Lindsay's podcast,
it's Almost 30 binge worthy, epic.
(53:06):
It is one of my favorites and oneof my regulars and definitely be
on the lookout for her new upcomingtarot deck Making Tarot Modern.
I am so, so excited and I cannotwait to show up for you guys next
week and the following and justfor the rest of this freaking life.
I don't know.
(53:26):
I love you guys so, so much,and I'll see you next time.
Hello.
Hello and welcome todo DogEared Book Club.
I'm your host, Alexandra Shelly also knownas Bebe by many and here on DogEared,
the mission is to connect you all tobooks, thought leaders and avid readers.
Oh my gosh.
I'm so happy to be here.
You guys.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
If you are a regular, thank you.
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You, you really have no ideahow much it means to me.
And if you are new to dog geared, welcome.
Welcome.
So happy that we have United.
So anyways, I'm reallyexcited about this leader.
She is someone that I have beenfollowing for quite some time.
She is also a former podcastcoach of mine, and I just.
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I just love her.
I love how she shows up in the world.
I love her work.
And not only is her work just badass.
She's also a badass person.
So her name is Krista Williams andshe is a co-host of Almost30 podcast.
Not only is it binge worthy, it is.
So beautiful, insightful, and itis just such a joy to listen to.
(01:14):
It is definitely one of my regulars.
And if you haven't heard of almost30, she's a cohost with Lindsay
SIM kick and their two best friends,and they really just discuss all
the things of self-developmentspirituality, health, you know,
personal development, entrepreneurship.
All the cool shit, all the crazy shit.
(01:36):
I don't know.
You know, I don't even know where I'mgoing with this, but anyways, Krista
Williams is also the creator of the lifeedit, which is a really badass program
that allows you to kind of unpack your bagwhen it comes to your habits and the ways
of living and showing up in the world.
And she also has one for the digital spacein terms of your phone and your computer
(01:57):
and you know, how you function and justreally kind of cleaning up the clutter.
And then she also has aprogram for relationships.
And so I just, I love what she's doing.
She's really all about again, like.
That analogy of unpacking your bag andjust allowing yourself to repack it in
the most beautiful and intentional way.
And if you also haven't heard, Almost30has a really cool membership program
(02:21):
and it comes with bonus episodes.
It comes with keynote speakers and,you know, seminars and also like
healing sessions and programs like it.
So, so cool.
And I also love how excited they are aboutit in terms of how it's been evolving.
And they're just, they're just amazing.
(02:41):
So anyways, I met Christathrough, joining her and Lindsay's
little podcast, little podcast.
I'm such a Butthead.
Huh, their podcast program for, freshor, you know, current podcasters
like myself and others, it's calledyour podcast pro it was a nine week
(03:01):
intensive program of 25 other podcasters.
And it was such a beautiful, sacredcontainer where really we just.
Launched ourself or really allowedourselves to kind of find our grounding,
find out kind of where we can, you know,again, edit where we can monetize or we
can kind of rewrite our brand or mission.
(03:23):
And just, it was just amazing.
I've met honestly, some really some of.
I've met like a couple likelifelong friends through there.
I have been so deeply inspired byall the women and all the podcasters
and creators in this space.
And, now I have like a group of lifelonglike podcasters that I can reach out to,
(03:43):
but also I now have Krista and Lindsay andmy network, and it's just such an honor.
So anyways, this episode.
A little bit of DogEared Book Club, butalso a little bit into embody your soul.
My other podcast for my mediumship work.
And we dive into the books that reallyinspired her, why reading is so sacred
and so special and so important.
(04:05):
We also get into, Her ultimate book, thelaw of one and how that's really inspired
her path, how that's inspired her workand just, the key takeaways from there.
And then we also get into a littlebit of spirituality stuff in terms
of, you know, pure embodiment of yourtruth of your mission, you know,
spiritual integrity and just reallyliving out in the world just as.
(04:30):
Just as a whole being.
So anyways, I really, reallyhope you enjoy this episode.
If you haven't already make sure togive dog yeared book club a follow and
a review and means the world to me, ifyou haven't already make sure to follow
me on instagram at @dogeared.bookclub,and definitely follow Krista at
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itskrista on Instagram and at almost30
on Instagram.
And again, if you haven't alreadymade sure to follow their podcast,
give it a review and give it alisten because it is absolutely worth
every single minute of your time.
And if anything resonates withyou DM me at, again, my handle
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on instagram @dogeared.bookclub,and let's get right into it
you guys.
First of all, thank you!
So great to chat with you again!
Krista Williams (05:28):
It feels like a coaching call.
Like we're just going to ripon and talk about all the
things and yeah, I'm excited.
I really just like, you were such ajoy to have in our accelerator program.
You just made such a difference in theenergy and the enthusiasm and positivity
and brought so much creativity.
And it's been cool to see yourevolution through it because when we
(05:48):
first met, you were fully on DogEared.
That was going to be your thing.
And then now you're sort of transitioning.
And I think in the accelerator,it's really beautiful because it's.
It opens that opportunity upfor people where it gets people
really clear, really fast.
And that's what I think I sawwith you, you know, where you were
like, wow, I love this, but there'ssomething more, so it's cool to see
you on that step of your journey.
Alexandra (06:11):
Thank you.
Yeah, honestly, I know one one of thegirls I connect with on like a weekly
basis is Andrea and we're like, thiswas literally like the, the energy
we felt like it was, what was it?
We wouldend at 8PM or 7:00 PM.
And I was bouncing off the walls.
I was like, oh my God, I feel so good.
I was always so excitedafterwards, like so energized.
(06:34):
So yeah.
Thank you for having me on there.
So to our listeners, just to kind ofmake them aware, this is going to be
like a little bit of spirituality,goodness, but then also a little bit
about books and spiritual literacyand the importance of reading
the importance of filling yourmind with really important texts.
(06:57):
This will be kind of a half, halfa little bit of my passion with
books, half of my mediumship work.
So we're just going to get started.
One of the ways I love to start off thepodcast for embody or soul is what does
it mean to you to embody your soul?
Krista Williams (07:15):
To embody my soul.
Means for me to feel a sense ofpeace within me, you know, I think
for so long, I was so anxious and Ihad depression and I just felt like
my soul was so such an afterthought.
You know, I had such a mental gamein my life and such a mental agenda.
(07:39):
And I remember when I got my Reikimaster teacher's level attunement,
I felt like for one of thefirst times in my life, my soul.
In my body.
Like I could feel my soul atthe bottom of my feet, through
my crown, in my entire body.
And I hadn't felt that much inmy life, just through trauma.
You know, negative thinking my mindsetand to have my soul really in my
(08:01):
body just felt so powerful becausefor so many people, it doesn't feel
safe to have your soul in your body.
It's not natural for us.
Humans on earth, experiencing somuch trauma and grief and hard
times to feel like it's safefor that rich heart-centered
soul to be living in our body.
So I think it's when Ifeel that sense of peace.
That's when I really feel.
Alexandra (08:22):
I love that so much.
I really resonate with like, feeling yoursoul and your body and being okay with it.
Cause I was a huge part of my journeyand I had like literally medical things
happening and you know, doctors couldn'tdescribe it, but it was literally because
I was, I did not feel, I was afraid ofmyself, but now, you know, those things
(08:42):
are gone and they don't happen anymore.
And it's just, I don't know.
It's wild.
So justkind of wanted to dovetailoff that, but I loved what you said.
So what is, oh my God.
Sorry.
The question was like, what is.
One of the most important, like texts thatyou've read and I'll be like, Law of One.
(09:05):
Yeah, I know.
Krista Williams (09:06):
Honestly, she already knows baby.
Alexandra (09:10):
I could change it up though.
Just let it out.
Girls say whatever you want.
Krista Williams (09:17):
So, you know it, but Law of One is a series of
five books and it's a channel textthat was written in the eighties.
In Kentucky, I was born in Ohioand it basically is this six
dimensional consciousness, called Ra.
And it's the same Ra thatwe know from history.
Ra, the Sungod or Ra fromEgyptian from the Egyptian times.
(09:41):
So it's this being that hasreally existed throughout our
consciousness and existence.
And it talks a lot about how all thingsare one and in all experiences, negative
or positive, it's all part of the creator.
And it's all part of ourmeaning here in life.
And for me, it was reallypowerful to reframe.
Duality in our third dimensionalexperience because I had been so
(10:04):
caught up in like, if God exists,why does bad things happen?
Why is there negativity on earth?
And that's very valid concernand question, and it's not like
everyday I feel comfortable withthe answer, but really it is that.
It all provides us the learning andgrowth opportunity that we need for
our Ascension and our evolution.
And when I think about the hardesttimes in my life and the most
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challenge I've been through inthe most traumatic experiences,
those have shaped me the most.
And those have changed me the most.
And that's really what we're looking for.
We're not looking for a beautifulexperience in life, on earth to just
have fun and play it's part of it,but it really is for our growth.
So it talks a lot about growth.
So.
Any of the five texts are myfavorite, but that is like the
(10:48):
most transformative for me.
Alexandra (10:49):
I know that is definitely, I'm like looking out of my book.
So I'm like, I have literally 7million books to read, but that is a
hundred percent a text I need to read.
And what do you think, maybe I'mtrying to think how to phrase this.
What do you think, not enoughpeople know about the Law of One
(11:13):
and what, maybe not like overrated,but it's like, okay guys, like it's
like what they're focusing on is.
I don't want to say nothing.
The law of one is important, butyou kind of know what I mean.
Krista Williams (11:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of do, because you know,in love one, it talks a lot
about the Ascension process.
And I think so many people getcaught up on Ascension as like
a means to escape or experience.
Really it's like not looking atit as a way to get out or a way
to bypass or a way to avoid all ofthe parts of our Ascension process.
(11:48):
So I think people get really caught up onthe Ascension process because in of one,
it talks about how to ascend and Ascensionand like what it feels like to ascend.
But I think the part that people.
That really is something.
I think people need to understand moredeeply as freewill and freewill as like
a basic core principle of our universe.
And I think in our planet onearth, there's so much violation
(12:10):
of freewill where people feel likethey can tell people what to do.
They can judge others for doingthings that they wouldn't do.
They can control people.
They can manipulate people.
They can.
You know, right in theBible, thou shall not.
They can you know, tell peoplethey should or shouldn't do things.
And really those are all violationsof freewill and under the creator's
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experience or watch, we should be able todo whatever we want, even if we totally
don't agree with someone else doing it.
And it goes as, as far as extreme as yourimagination will allow in the law of one.
Not that I'm saying Ican don't any of this.
It's not that it's just like, We needto allow people to do what they have to
do as part of their own unique path toAscension or to, you know, to greater
(12:53):
love and understanding of the universe.
And so I think free will is like a hugepart of it that people really don't
understand as well as they should.
Alexandra (13:04):
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
You said that because yeah, even Indifferent ways that are so parallel.
Like, you know what, I feel like whatwe've been seeing often, or at least
what I've been seeing often on Instagram,which I really want to speak to a
little bit in this podcast is just,you know, the spiritual red flags,
(13:25):
you know, I look at like, there's thisone post and I was dying, laughing.
I'm just like, oh my God, this isunreal, but it's so true because.
People forget, like thewhole Ascension thing.
It's like, no, our purposeis to be on planet earth.
Like our feet are on the ground.
And you know how people are like, I don'teven connect with my human self anymore.
(13:47):
It's like, that's not even real.
Like what?
Your purpose is to live in realityand create change in reality.
But spirituality is just simply a tool.
It's a beautiful tool tolike, you know, assist us.
Process of growing.
So yeah, I love that.
You said, I know the word ascensionis like, definitely over used.
Krista Williams (14:07):
I know it really is, and
honestly, it takes a long time.
So that's the thing is like, whenyou read the texts, it's like we're
in, we're in third dimension ordensity, the Law of One calls them
densities for the shortest amountof time of any of the other octaves.
So it's like, even if it's themost short, it seems so long in
this experience sometimes, youknow, we feel like it's so long.
(14:28):
What, it's all, when we're lookingat it from the higher perspective,
really on purpose and reallyon time and really meaningful.
But I think sometimes we get so caughtup in the ego, in the human where we're
like, oh my God, get me out of here.
This is like miserableand everything like that.
But yeah.
Yeah, we have it better in historythan ever before, as far as like
(14:51):
poverty levels, like sickness levels,opportunities for growth and food
and consciousness and all of that.
So I think sometimes we're justlooking at it with a negative lens.
Alexandra (15:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
Also something a practitioner said tome recently was, you know, because I was
talking to him about, you know, In theBible apparently mediumship is not of God.
And he is like an ultimate, sucha beautiful Christian soul.
(15:22):
And he was.
I don't remember thatat all, to be honest.
And he's like, I also don't think Godis that trivial, which I really loved.
And that also reminded me of likewhat you were saying with Law
of One is it's just semantics.
Like it's a way of really allowing you tovisualize, so you can understand and take
(15:43):
the lesson, but they're not that trivial.
And I think that's what's happeningis I feel like we're taking these texts
that are just, you know, information andbeauty and source, but then we just kind
of make it, we kind of ingrain our egoand our human in it and make it a little
rough.
Krista Williams (16:01):
Yeah.
That's what happens.
I think too.
People confuse.
Like when we say like, why wouldGod allow all this to happen?
It's like, God allows,but God does not do so.
It's like when people bad things happen.
We are the ones that are doing it.
It's not like, God, is that personthat's going to stop or control.
Like I think we sometimes think thathumans are God and God is humans.
(16:25):
Like, yes, we are God, butwe're a fractal of God.
So it's like, we sometimes get thatconfused where we're looking for that.
But in the Bible, does it say in a passageabout mediumship, I'm curious about that
Alexandra (16:35):
Apparently, you know I'm not trying to like put anyone on
blast, but In my immediate familywas like Bebe, like my good friends
that are Christian are terrified.
And it's just interesting becauseI mean, I, it made me almost like,
well, should I study the Bible?
Like, should I know more?
And I'm , well, no, like I'm not here touse God as my sword, or as a weapon to
(16:58):
like defend myself, I'm just gonna use.
Not even use, I'm just going toembody my connection with source,
as I know this is to be true.
And I know it's pure.
Then I think that's probablywhy maybe the whole thing, like
what do you, what do you say?
I feel like with everyone, the kind ofwhere toxicity and ego is getting really
(17:20):
slippery with spirituality is that'swhere I think people, or Christians or
anyone gets a little terrified of it.
Cause it's like, you're kind oflosing your mind, which yeah.
Like there's , unfortunately there wasJohn of God and his ego got incredibly
slippery, but it's just, yeah.
Krista Williams (17:40):
I think people out, you know, when you're in such a and I
don't, I don't hate on Christianity atall, but you know, But it's like when
you have a control of your experiencethrough this lens of Christianity where
you understand this is good, this is bad.
This is what we say.
This is what we don't say.
This is what I do.
This is what I don't do.
And then you have someonethat's like, actually they're.
(18:02):
Different realms, differentbeings, different types.
God loves everyone, you know, God alive.
You know, it just is reallydisorienting for someone that's
oriented their entire experienceon these certain set of beliefs.
So mediumship I'm sureis very scary for them.
And also too, when you're a Christianor I grew up Catholic, you have an
idea of good and evil and there is theexperience of good and evil in third
(18:24):
density, but you also see like, hell,so you think of demons and all of that,
which do, from my perspective exists,there are negative entities, but you
really look at it from that lens.
So anything that is not of God,sort of in that framework is dark,
you know, is the enemy they callit is like something that's bad.
So it makes sense that they would bescared or judgmental, but you really
(18:48):
have to do whatever you feel calledto do when you're called by spirit.
Alexandra (18:52):
Absolutely.
I'm right there with you.
So when it comes to texts and, youknow, literacy and understanding who
you are, how is, I mean, with, youcan even obviously frame in whatever
way and whatever book calls to you,or if it's like kind of a general
thing, how has that allowed you tocenter into yourself and inspire.
(19:14):
Yeah, I'm really excited to see your,your new tarot deck come out and all
your other beautiful, exciting projects.
But I would love to hear how literacyhas just informed you just as a person,
how that's inspired you and inspiredjust the work you do in the world.
Krista Williams (19:32):
Yeah.
I love that you talk about this so muchbecause, it's been a goal of mine since we
started the podcast, you know, we startedsix years ago when I would hear myself on
the podcast and I'd be like, oh my God.
And the way that I spoke and the wordsthat I said, just felt like, my "not self"
you know, felt like my, not who I was.
(19:54):
And so over the past six years I've beenreading so much more and practicing being
a great speaker and using my vocabularyand feeling like the words were sufficient
enough for what I was trying to convey.
And so literacy has been huge.
Also, the fact that we interviewauthors all the time and we talk about
health and wellness and spirituality.
(20:15):
So we have to stay abreast oflike the most beautiful texts
and all of these amazing things.
And, you know, I just find that the morethat I read, the more that I understand
that there are so many messages thatare just repeated in a different way.
And that nothing is really original.
It's all sort of like a differentflavor of something else, which
is actually really beautiful andcomforting from, from a perspective.
(20:36):
So I think if people want to get aheadin life, if you want to feel like
you're interesting, or you're stayinginterested in your experience or your
learning or growing, you can listento podcasts and YouTube for sure.
But I think there's nothingreally like a book or reading
something that you really, really
love.
Alexandra (20:51):
Oh, my gosh.
Absolutely.
So I'm going to ask like one ofmy favorite questions I usually
ask on DogEared, but what isyour earliest memory of reading?
Krista Williams (21:01):
Oh my God, this is a good one.
Oh my gosh.
I loved Raul doll.
Yes, dude.
We're all doll.
I remember BFG the witchesJames and The Giant Peach.
And, there was a few, I readevery single world bell book.
And I just remember like havingthis experience of just like wonder
(21:24):
and amazement where I could betotally transported into a different
thing and then that evolved intoHarry Potter and that evolved
into, you know, different things.
But I just was like, I loved itmore than I did anything else.
Like I loved it more than TV.
I loved it more than anything else.
And as like someone that is spiritualand loves to use my imagination, it was
(21:45):
just so enriching and fulfilling andI loved that I could just be sitting
and totally engulfed in this new thing.
So it was Roald dahl waslike my favorite books ever.
My favorite author.
Alexandra (21:55):
Authors.
I love that.
And it's so I, you even saying like thewitches, I'm like, wait, I read that
book ages ago and I remember loving it.
Yes.
I need to, I need to read that book again.
He kind of, I might be, I might bewrong, but for some reason I, I tie
him like in similarities to what.
(22:16):
Favorite authors, Kurt Vonnegut.
Like he has kind of like that, likesatire black humor kind of thing.
Yeah.
Krista Williams (22:24):
That's weird.
Well, bell was like very, Iactually was going to read , my
mom read about an autobiography.
He was like kind of a weird bird.
There was like a weird, he was kind ofweird and it was, yeah, like someone,
the witches was pretty dark and hisability to tell these really dark sort
of themes and messages at times inthese books was just so fascinating.
(22:48):
So yeah, I mean, if you're writing abook, I always think to a channeling and
mediumship, like a lot of these authorsthey're tapping into a consciousness.
If they're pulling these experiences,like game of Thrones or like JRR Tolkien,
or like a lot of sci-fi and fantasy,like they're very much channeling
something like Star Wars And so whenwe talk about spirituality, like it,
(23:10):
can't not be spiritual to write a booklike these books that we read that
are so out there, and so experiential.
Alexandra (23:19):
I love that you said that.
Yeah, I know I was talkingto a friend years ago.
He's one of my dearestfriends from high school.
He's so incredibly giftedand like music and poetry.
And we've really connected.
As you know, just kind of artistic,you know, friends who are like we're
depressed and we love writing or whatever,
Krista Williams (23:41):
That was a whole vibe, I think that was cool then to feel that way.
Alexandra (23:46):
It totally was.
And then honestly, my viewcompletely shifted when I read
Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
And she's like, what,what are we doing guys?
Like, creativity is a dance.
Like it wants to play with you.
Like it's not a battle, you know?
And it made me feel so much betterbecause even just the perspective
(24:07):
of, our parents' generation is,oh, like the starving artist.
And it's like, no, we actually,it's not a little business.
It's not a little, art business.
It's like, we are creators andthank goodness you have us because
where would like color and magic be?
Krista Williams (24:24):
Big Magic is one of the best.
Like I just really loved it too for.
Being the creative and the entrepreneur,especially because I quit my
full-time job to pursue my passion atthe time was blogging and I failed.
Like I just could not make an incomethat was suspicion enough for me.
(24:45):
And I remember readingthat book and was it, wow.
I was putting pressure on mycreativity by quitting my job.
And after that, I got anothernine to five and I worked for two
years while we built almost 30.
So we, I was basically doing two full-timejobs and it seriously was like major for
us in our growth that I didn't have tocount on Almost30 for money right away.
(25:06):
And it could evolve intowhat it was naturally and it
could feel, feel really good.
And so Big Magic is like a must forany creative or entrepreneur, I think.
Alexandra (25:16):
Hundred, a hundred percent agree.
So.
I want to get into a little bitof a, the spiritual juiciness
of what we are seeing today.
I would just love to hear yourview on performative spiritualism,
because it's been so interesting.
And I remember going into I'm amedium, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm
(25:38):
going to be friends with all theLightworkers , blah, blah, blah.
They're also cool.
Then I'm like, wait, actually.
It's almost like you joina sorority, anything, it'd be
friends with all your sisters, butyou're like, you know, whatever.
But it was just interesting.
And it's actually just like anyone,even just having your bridesmaids,
it's like, okay, like, Girls, thiscommunity is actually so, so small.
(26:05):
And so niche should I always haveseen myself as someone with a
ton of friends, but now I'm like,okay, it's really paring down.
Even one of the things I wasdealing with the last couple of
weeks is like this pre grievanceof like, wow, like my friendships.
Are really going to change.
And my connections are really goingto change based on, integrity and
(26:26):
you know, I guess I kind of wentin like a few directions, but...
Krista Williams (26:28):
But that's, what's interesting too, you know, so I
think there's so many differentthings there because what happens
when we become spiritual, and thisalso happens in religion, is where we
feel like we're better than people attimes, because we're more spiritual.
And I think that's the trap ofspirituality where you're like, I'm
praying, I'm meditating, I'm connected.
(26:50):
I'm doing all the things to be spiritual,which could be very truthful where you
like, wow, you are deeply connectedto your soul in God, or you could be.
Using it as a way or yourego sometimes use it as use.
It uses it as a way to make yourselffeel better than people and continue
to keep you separate because when youbecome spiritual or awakened, the ego has
(27:11):
less of a place to hide because you'restarting to really understand the ego.
A lot of our spiritual journey isreally understanding and working
with our ego because our ego is,is so much of our experience.
And so, you know, we can start tolose friends on our spiritual journey
because we're awakening and becauseit's confusing for people, or it's
scary for people because they're feelingstuck and they're feeling intimidated
(27:33):
by your light or by your awakening,or it could also be because we start
to become spiritual and we feel like.
Different than people, better than peopleor that they're not aligned or they're
not awakened or they're not conscious.
So it's such a dance that we have to do.
And I often catch myself inthat way sometimes as well.
And I remember when I becamevegan, you know, 12 years ago
(27:55):
I've been vegan for like 12 years.
I was totally like that.
I was like, oh my God,everyone that eats meat is.
Just so unconscious and so blah, blah.
And I have these judgments and whenwe feel like we're doing something
that's good, this has happens in all ofculture and people, morally superior,
we then feel like we can judge people.
We then feel like we can shame people.
(28:15):
So it's always being mindful ofwhere we feel like we're morally
superior than everyone because, beinghuman is a spiritual experience and
everyone's path is totally different.
So if we're awakening in thislifetime, it doesn't mean that we're
better than, or worse than people.
So we have to be conscious to be inthe trap, but there is performative
spirituality where people see onInstagram that you can post certain
(28:36):
posts or say certain things.
And it will garner traction becausemost people are really interested to
know themselves or they want to feelhappy or they want to feel whole.
If you're telling them you're goingto be happy, you're going to know
yourself, you're going to be allthese things by being spiritual,
then they're probably going to followyou and try to do all these things.
And so people can perform to be spiritualand not really be spiritual because
(28:57):
our idea of spirituality is sometimesconfused with like, self-care where
we're like, okay, meditate, pray, do areel where you're talking about oneness,
do all these things, but maybe in reallife, you're not actually like that.
So it's such a tricky game that we play.
And as someone that is in thisspace, I've met people that, are not
(29:18):
spiritual, but play spirituality online.
And I've met people that literally wouldnever say that they were spiritual,
but are the most spiritual people.
And for me, that's really like a senseof peace and truth and grounded-ness
and love and gratitude for themselves.
Alexandra (29:33):
Yes.
I, I love, I love that.
And I know that's something, my,my actually my previous mentor told
me is, there's no spiritual lifeor life, it's just life itself.
And it brought me so much comfort because,I thought I was doing things wrong?
I'm like, well, I'm reading, like Oneness,I'm not reading, you know, I don't know.
(29:58):
It just I'm into this and they'reinto that and am I doing this right?
And I know you did an episodeon it's like, should I be dating
someone that's also spiritual?
And it's like, no, definitely not.
There's like this wholeness and justbeing a part of life and holding
these values and embodying it.
So I, I love.
I love that you said that
Krista Williams (30:17):
Yeah, the dating thing.
Do I remember that with my husband?
Because my husband for 10 yearsnow, and I definitely have awakened
as part of our being together.
And I remember I'd be like,why aren't you meditating?
Why aren't you doing yoga?
Like, why aren't you havinggreen juice, all of these things.
And what I didn't realize is that.
I was sort of outside reaching forspirituality because I thought it was
(30:40):
coming from the outside, but he wasjust like embodying it and being at
peace for themselves and checking inlike, oh, does this feel good for me?
No, it doesn't feel good.
Does this feel good for me?
No, it doesn't feel good.
And actually he was being more spiritualthan I ever was because I kept looking for
outside and he was just always going in.
Alexandra (31:00):
Oh my God.
No, I love that too.
Cause even I know my partner.
He is actually like, he definitelywouldn't describe himself as
spiritual, but he's so observantand so methodical and so empathetic.
I don't even think herealizes how empathetic he is.
And it's like, he is really.
(31:20):
Such an embodiment of God.
I mean, if, if I told that to him,he'd be like, what, like the best part.
Cause he's like, whatare you talking about?
I'm a shit head.
But like, yeah.
I love that.
Krista Williams (31:34):
I'm so glad you have that
experience, too.
Too.
Alexandra (31:36):
Oh, hardcore.
I mean, I actually did episode on itwith Andrea and she's, she's really good.
So much, beautiful advice on it becauseyeah, I would be like, well, how is,
how is he taking care of his mind?
You know, why is he like, whyis he buying like processed food
when he knows I can't eat that.
And , I would take it personally and it'slike, no, he eats it because he likes it.
(32:00):
And like, he's gonna,like, he will live with it.
And, you know, If he, I don't know,because so much of me is like, if I had
the ability to just buy the groceries,I would but , you know what, Beebs?
You are not controlling him.
He is an adult.
And you also don't live together.
Krista Williams (32:17):
Freewill and pleading on someone's free will when you're like,
you should do this, Justin, my husband'salways like, don't say you should, because
I'd always be like, you can do this.
And I did learn from that.
I'm like, oh wow, that's so true.
Because I was like, just very muchimpeding on his experience by being like,
you should do this, you should do that.
And yeah, in the Law of One it has thisreally beautiful chapter where , so Ra
(32:41):
was being channeled through this womannamed Carla and Ra, they were in the
channeled state and Ra was being channeledthrough Carla and Ra was saying how her
energy was low because she had given upbuying new things for that month for lent.
And he said that because she wasgiving it up from a lack mentality,
rather than an abundance mentality,it had lowered her vibration.
(33:04):
So she did it out of a state ofshame and guilt where she was like,
I shouldn't buy anything for a month.
I shouldn't do anything.
And because her energywas shame and guilt.
That's what Ra was having to be channeledthrough, which was much harder than
if it was like abundance and love.
So we always have to check inwith like our intention behind
things, because those matter.
So with your boyfriend, as an example,it's like him eating processed foods.
(33:25):
If you have an energy and intentionof like love and joy and expression
and nourishment, when you're doingthat, your experience of that food in
your body is going to be so differentthan probably ours, where we're
like, we're gonna die a slow death.
If we don't process.
Alexandra (33:41):
Oh my gosh.
And so, you know, as someone you've,you've been in like creative space
for a while, you've talked to likeso many amazing people you're even
creating like your own, your ownproject based on your work and like
your inspiration from a spiritual text.
I mean, what has been some keytakeaways, and what has been
(34:04):
some of the greatest struggles?
Krista Williams (34:07):
Yeah.
So I'm making two decks actually.
So I'm making a tarot deck, a standardtarot, and then a Law of One deck.
So when I started to make the deck, Istarted to make a loved one deck, but then
I realized when I studied the Law of One.
That the Law of One tarot is actuallyvery different than how we do tarot.
It's more so an architectural study.
(34:28):
So there's these 22 archetypeswithin the Law of One.
That basically document the Ascensionprocess that we're supposed to
study to support our Ascension.
And in tarot, we use it for moredivination purposes, more, you
know, like answering questions.
More just card readingrather than like a study.
So I realized I'm like, oh myGod, I have to make two decks.
(34:48):
So I've been making thesetwo decks for two years now.
They're finally off to the printerand we're going to be launching
them in the next couple of months.
And what I've learned is like so much,
I've just learned just patience.
And I think we see people onthe internet and we're like, I'm
launching this, I'm doing this.
I have this about.
(35:09):
It looks so fast.
It looks so overnight, but realthings that we love that are
meaningful to us take a while.
And this has taken a while for me,it's taken a while to write all
the copy to crosscheck, to study,like there's over a hundred pages
of copy with something like this.
So it's like in each deck,there's over a hundred pages.
So it's like, it's just.
(35:31):
How can we take the pressureoff of us to do something?
And, when are we doing somethingfor the validation rather
than just because we love it?
And so we always have to come backto like, if no one saw this or no
one bought the decks or no one didanything, would I be proud of it?
And I always am tryingto come back to that.
So I've learned so much aboutpatience, and also, I think after we
launched the decks, I want to teachpeople how to do decks because it's
(35:55):
actually, a lot harder than I thought.
You have to be very specific about theprinting, the edges, the paper type,
you know, the card type, the boxes.
And there's just a lot.
So I want to help people, becauseI feel like a lot of people
have decks in their heart.
They want to bring through whetherit's oracle cards or, you know,
animal totems or anything like that.
(36:15):
So I'd love to support people in doingdecks, but I've learned a lot and I'm
just so excited for it to come outbecause it's been such a long time coming.
Alexandra (36:22):
My
gosh.
So exciting.
I selfishly want to ask more aboutthe deck, but I personally, like, I
don't really know anything about tarot.
I just like have a friendthat does taro for me.
So, I mean, if I were to pick up your deckand just use it today, like how would I go
about it?
Yeah, I think you would useit for readings probably.
(36:43):
So what you would normally do is, youknow, you open up the container for your
reading, kind of set the intention withthe person that you're working with.
And then you'd probably pullcards to clarify or validate what
you what you were picking up on.
So you'd be like, okay, I'mkind of feeling like they need
to Like there's a partner.
They should be working on a projectwith, and you're like, okay.
And then you just pull a card andyou're like, oh, two of cups, perfect.
(37:05):
Confirmed.
You know, you're like, okay.
I feel like they should quit theirjob, but I don't know how to say this.
Okay.
Tower card.
Perfect.
And so it really helpsconfirm your intuitive hits.
And that's what really tarot is.
It's like, for me, it's beensuch a beautiful practice in
synchronicities and being like,okay, I kind of feel this going on.
Now.
The cards are also saying this to me.
(37:27):
This is helpful for me.
Bringing confidence to my intuitive hits.
Krista Williams (37:31):
So I would definitely, I, you know, of course I want to
get you a deck when you have it, butuse it for your readings for people
so that it can support you and justbringing the most clarifying message.
Alexandra (37:41):
I love that.
I'm so excited.
And I actually, I wrote somethingabout it the other, the other day,
cause it's just so intriguing.
I think.
You know, people are, especially,honestly, when I was working at
mystic journey, it was so fascinating,you know, watching, I remember
seeing this one customer come in.
Like every time I was there, I mean, Ionly worked there three days a week, so
(38:03):
I don't know if she came in every day orlike a couple of times a week, but she
would always be getting something new orI remember, one time I stayed a little
bit later because this woman was like,oh, I'm getting these crystals because my,
my brother-in-law or someone has cancer,
and my, my boss was like, Beebs, yougot to kind of ask her to leave.
Cause it's like closing time, but it wasinteresting because not only did I see
(38:27):
like, you know, oh, wonderful wholenessin the community, but it's like people
reaching for these tools, if they workand I just thought it was so interesting
because really at the end of the day,it's Intention and how you use them.
But I would love to kind of hear yourthoughts on like you're creating a
tool for people and, you know, I think.
(38:49):
What also happens with what Ibelieve with spiritual performance,
performative spiritualism, pphhf!
Is like, we just make thesekind of the end all be all.
And I was at a point where I'm like, well,I know, first of all, I know nothing.
I know Jack about astrology.
I know like a little bit,but really not anything.
(39:09):
And I was like, ashamedof , should I know more?
And I'm like, well, no, maybelater, when I'm interested, but.
I knew as I was kind of going off, butI would just love to hear what your
Krista Williams (39:18):
There's so many different modes and methodalities of
spirituality and in the Law of One,
it's interesting because Ra talks abouteither choosing Kabbalah, or astrology
or tarot to study our Ascension.
And so picking one of those,whatever you feel most called to.
And it's interesting that Kabbalahwas in there because I didn't
expect that to be in there.
(39:39):
But yeah, it's reallywhat feels called to you.
And for me, I use tools intermittently.
Like I'm not, I don'tsubscribe to any all the time.
I don't do something forever.
I know astrology, I know human design.
I know, you know, tarot enough,that feels good for me, but
I don't get like obsessed or.
Outsource my intuition to them.
Cause I think that's what happensa lot of times is people give
(40:00):
their power away to these tools.
Alexandra (40:03):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I think, I think that's, what'shappening with so many things now.
I mean, even I had an amazingconversation with this one woman
named Chioma and she coins herselfas like the mindful bookkeeper.
And I love it because she, she recentlydid a podcast with Chelsea Riffe on like
is money mindset making people broke.
(40:25):
And it was just so fascinatingbecause it's like, People are
serving these tools, but it's like,no, the tool should serve you.
You know, you should, it'slike a dance with the tools.
It's not like, well, I'mnot manifesting, right.
Or like, I'm not using my crystals right.
It's like, no, it's just,an intention setting.
Krista Williams (40:43):
100%.
Yeah.
I want to listen to thatbecause I feel like.
Yeah.
It's a lot of times it's like peoplejust regurgitating what they hear.
So they're like, I'm amoney mindset, coach.
I know all the steps, but like there'sa difference in embodiment of things and
really like knowing something truthfully.
And a lot of times people that are very,calculated about the way that they move
(41:08):
are sometimes the people that I trustthe most, because it's very serious.
If you're working with someone on theirmindset or they working with someone on
their money, you know, as an example,like that's very important to people.
So if people are spending moneyto be doing something with you.
It should be very integrated, you know?
And I think that's, what's hard in ourspace is that there's no real regulations.
Not that they want there to be, butthere's no one like keeping an eye
(41:31):
on who's in integrity and who's not,
Alexandra (41:34):
oh my God.
Yeah.
Like even like mentioning that earlier,like that word integrity is coming up.
So, so much for me just seeing,like, I think what happens.
Is the way I've, I've realized basedon, you know, honestly, my psychiatrist
was like Bebe, so you live out in theworld and you tell your story like
(41:56):
100%, which is wonderful and you'revery trusting, but most of the time
people are out in the world and thefirst time you meet them, it's like 20%.
And then he kind of describesit to me as like a snail shell.
It's like me, it's been sucha journey for me, starting out
here instead of in this spiral.
(42:17):
And even like, that actuallyanalogy came with me for dating.
Like when I started, you know, goingon dates and claiming partners,
he's like, you got to startout here and not in the center.
And now I'm realizing that I'm like,wow, I really got to start and be so much
better with starting out here and who Icoin is like, oh my God, they're amazing.
(42:37):
It's like, no, start to havemore of a, like a observant
eye instead of jumping the gun.
Cause I get so excited so easily it,especially now, I think also all this
spiritual stuff is so pretty and exciting.
Like crystals are cute and like, cardsare cute, but it's like, no, what is
like the heart and the soul in it.
Krista Williams (43:00):
Yeah.
I agree with that.
And I think sometimes we kind ofget, when something's beautiful,
we're like, oh, I shouldn'tlike it because it's beautiful.
It's like, no, like God createdbeauty for us to love it.
And for us to be like,whoa, this is beautiful.
Like flowers are unreal.
Flowers are so beautiful.
Crystals are so beautiful andthat's okay to love and experience
(43:21):
beauty from in this lifetime.
And I think sometimes we thinksomething's frivolous or stupid if
it's beautiful, but it's like, no.
No, no,
Alexandra (43:30):
no, no.
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
Yeah.
I also love that you said flowersbecause flowers are like my favorite,
like when I am walking around myneighborhood, I am like, like smelling
flowers with people's gardens.
Like I wonder if you're watching.
It's so good.
That's what life's about!
So, oh, You could have, and Iwas kind of like going back to
(43:53):
like some book book, goodness.
But if you could have someone writeabout your life, who would it be?
Oh my God.
That's a really, really good question.
Who do I know that's a beautiful writer.
My friend, Jenna Zoe of my humandesign is a beautiful writer.
(44:14):
My friend, Jordan youngeris a beautiful writer.
Yeah.
There's so many beautiful writers.
I think probably them like asmy friends that I really trust
and know deeply and intimately.
Yeah.
What about you?
(44:36):
Oh my gosh.
For some reason, the first person thatcame to mind was like Toni Morrison.
Cause I just, she, when I was likeready to read her, it's it reawakened
this creative fire in me, like, ohmy gosh, you know, she's so poetic.
It's like, she's sewingyou into her skin.
She's so close and it wasfunny, cause I read before I
(44:58):
write her, I read Joan Didion.
That was like a littlepeeved at Joan Didion.
Cause she keeps you at an armsdistance, which is , so her style
and I was like, oh, I don't like her,but now I'm like, okay, I kind of, I
understand where she's coming from.
And that's like her veryjournalistic style almost.
I also want to say maybetoo, Stephanie Danler.
(45:20):
I love it because.
Kind of young she's in her thirtiesand her first book, bittersweet was.
Like I've always loved reading andstuff, but when I read Sweetbitter
in college, it was just so classic.
It's like coming of age, moving to anew city, you know, like it was this
girl working in a restaurant and justkind of experiencing like the rough
(45:43):
and toughness and like you know,the it's like, why do I it's like,
I'm rubbing sand between my fingers.
It's like how granular and rough humanexistence can be and just functioning
as a young woman in a new city.
And it's , sounds cliche,but it was just so good.
And then I read her autobiographyStray and just, I loved it because
(46:05):
she just splays herself open,but her writing is so beautiful.
And I think that's what I'm,that's what I'm starting to do.
Like, not like obviously reveal like deep,dark or personal secrets about myself on
Instagram, but I am so embracing, just
being so real.
Because I'm just so over, when someonesays one thing and then they post
(46:26):
another, I literally, it's just...
it sounds so lame.
It's like icky.
It's like, why?
You're literally reinforcing the bad partabout social media and I'm just, like
these authors, but then also being inthis book community, like literally,
the woman that I've met in this communityare so fricking amazing and brilliant.
(46:50):
And we just embrace each other and allof our flaws and our, nuances and stuff.
So it's almost a combinationof, I would, oh my God.
Sorry.
Oh my God.
I'm so happy.
An animal made a guest appearance.
She did a little energy.
Krista Williams (47:10):
She did a little energy
Alexandra (47:11):
work.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I love it.
But yeah, like a combination of likeeither those authors or even some of the
girlfriends I've made on Bookstagram.
Cause they're such beautiful writers.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Krista Williams (47:26):
I mean being a beautiful writer is such a unique cause it's, it's
writing in your own voice, but more.
And it has its own energy signature,you know, I think that's why Glennon
Doyle's Untamed really resonatedfor people because it felt, so
much of her voice, but then it alsorelated to everyone else's voice.
(47:46):
So yeah, I love your answer to that.
I love how like the specificity of it.
Alexandra (47:51):
Ah, thank you.
Yeah.
You know, it's, it's funny.
I feel like it was, I went to this, Igot a facial from this really, really
cool aesthetician like a month ago.
And she's also like this energyworker, psychic medium, she's such a
trip, but she was like, you're reallybeautiful soul, but a little tormented.
(48:12):
And I'm like, yeah, that's definitelyme, I'm always reflecting and undoing.
And I think that's like this weird torturepart of the artist or someone just being
really sensitive, as I'm constantly...
us on Bookstagram,
we're always joking about booksthat just like rip our hearts out.
We're like, we love it!
Krista Williams (48:33):
Yeah.
That's
the thing it's like being carefulto not make your personal growth,
masochism where you're just totally.
Yeah.
Cause it also makes you feel morehuman when you are like a masochist.
Alexandra (48:45):
Oh my God, absolutely , a masochist..
Oh my God.
I haven't heard that word in a long time.
That's some good, good stuff.
So, okay, a couple of final questions.
If you could gift a book to someone,anyone dead or alive, who would it be
and why would you give 'em this book?
Krista Williams (49:05):
If I would gift a book to anyone let's see,
who would I give to book to?
This is so weird, but my grandma had areally bad eating disorder and I just,
(49:28):
you know, I think in her generation itwas more normalized and there's a book
that was really powerful for me calledWomen Food and God by Janine Roth and
it's just one of my favorite books ever.
It's like, just talks about moving beyond,you know, the physical and our obsession
with the physical and our obsessionwith our weight and the never ending
goal to always be smaller than we are.
(49:49):
And I feel like it just wouldhave been really beautiful
for her to be able to read it.
Alexandra (49:54):
I love that so much.
I've definitely, definitelyheard of that book.
I forget where, but that's one...
yeah, I know.
That's one.
I would like to read, cause I know notthat like years ago, I definitely, I
wouldn't say I had an eating disorder,but it wasn't the healthiest relationship
with food, but that's just a book.
I just know.
I just want to read and justlearn more about, because I love
Krista Williams (50:16):
that.
It's amazing.
Alexandra (50:19):
I love it so much.
And so this is like embody your soultheme, because that was DogEared-ish.
So, because I don't want to make it sounddark, but when you finally cross over and
you look back at your life and like whatyou've done, how do you want to leave it?
(50:40):
How do you seek to leave people?
And, yeah.
Krista Williams (50:45):
I think, I don't focus on my legacy or how I impacted
others really as much, becausethat's kind of like, we have only
have so little control over that.
And for me sometimes, I don't know.
I'm always like when people are soobsessed with leaving a legacy, it's
like your ego wants to leave a legacy.
I don't think your spirit reallycares about leaving a legacy.
(51:06):
So I always am just focused onlike, what would my soul say to God?
And like, what would God say to me?
I know there's parts of my journeythat I really am sort of avoiding, or,
you know, not fully integrating rightnow or just not fully stepping into.
So I'd want to feel like I did it all.
So.
Maybe I don't have to come back...
Alexandra (51:28):
stop!
Oh my God.
You're like, am I
done yet?
Krista Williams (51:31):
No, honestly, like I am and I've checked in and
been like, Hey, like what's up?
How's it going in there?
Like this, this and this.
I'm like, okay, cool.
I'll be back soon.
Alexandra (51:41):
I am literally dying, that is so funny.
You're like, I thought, I thoughtit was over 47 more lessons later.
Krista Williams (51:49):
Yeah.
Honestly, they're like, and thisis the lessons are so simple.
It's like patients God, you know,compassion and they're, they're
like way more simple than we think.
But yeah, that's what I want.
Alexandra (52:01):
No, I love that too.
That's a, that's a really, reallygreat reminder because even, yeah.
You know, people in my parents' generationthere's so about leaving legacies.
And that's what I just, Iloved about your answer.
Cause it's such a reminder, cause Idon't know if I've like been obsessed
with leaving a legacy as well, but justmore in terms of I just know I'm meant
(52:23):
to really create something beautifuland I'm just excited to share it.
And I just have.
I just want it to matter, evenif it's like to, two people.
But yeah.
I love that, because you vocalizesomething that I really connected with.
Thank you guys, so, so much fortuning in, it means the world to me.
If you haven't already make sureto follow this podcast on Apple
(52:44):
Podcast, Spotify, wherever you listen.
Make sure to also leave a review, DM me.
I would love to hear your thoughts.
I would love to hear suggestions.
I'm so excited and so ready tojust continue serving you also
definitely make sure to followKrista @itskrista on Instagram and
listen to her and Lindsay's podcast,
it's Almost 30 binge worthy, epic.
(53:06):
It is one of my favorites and oneof my regulars and definitely be
on the lookout for her new upcomingtarot deck Making Tarot Modern.
I am so, so excited and I cannotwait to show up for you guys next
week and the following and justfor the rest of this freaking life.
I don't know.
(53:26):
I love you guys so, so much,and I'll see you next time.
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