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March 14, 2025 44 mins

In Episode #88 of Don't Pick the Scab Podcast, host David welcomes guest Jack Kammer, a seasoned advocate for male gender issues with over 40 years of experience. Together, they tackle the complex landscape of divorce recovery, fatherhood, and co-parenting for men over 40. Jack shares his unique perspective as a social worker and former Executive Director of the National Congress for Men, shedding light on the societal pressures and evolving roles of fathers in the aftermath of divorce. Despite not being a father himself, Jack passionately discusses the importance of fatherhood and the societal challenges men face, such as the stigma of being secondary parents and the struggles of shared custody arrangements.


The conversation delves into emotional recovery, with Jack highlighting how anger often masks deeper emotions like sadness and grief. He recounts transformative moments from his career, including workshops that helped angry fathers confront their pain and rebuild their emotional health. David and Jack also explore the challenges of co-parenting, the backlash against shared parenting initiatives, and societal shifts in gender roles over time. Jack advocates for the rebuttable presumption of shared parenting, emphasizing its benefits for children and the importance of fathers in their development.

This episode is a powerful mix of personal anecdotes, professional insights, and actionable advice for navigating the emotional and practical hurdles of divorce recovery. Whether you're a divorced dad or an ally, this episode offers hope, healing, and a fresh perspective on fatherhood’s evolving role in modern society.


Top 10 Topics Discussed

  1. The concept of "Don't Pick the Scab" as a metaphor for men's emotional healing post-divorce.

  2. The importance of moving past anger and confronting deeper emotions like sadness and grief.

  3. Challenges of co-parenting and the prevalence of "shit show" dynamics.

  4. The benefits of shared parenting and the case for rebuttable presumption laws.

  5. The societal undervaluing of fathers and its long-term impact on families.

  6. Personal anecdotes about navigating co-parenting challenges, including financial disputes.

  7. Cultural perceptions of masculinity and their influence on divorce recovery.

  8. The backlash against fathers seeking equal parenting roles post-divorce.

  9. Historical shifts in fatherhood roles, from pre-industrial times to the modern era.

  10. The emotional toll of divorce and tools for rebuilding a positive future for men and their children.


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