May 3, 2019 • 39 mins
Felicia Flewelling (Dovico Administrator) and Shelley Butler (Dovico COO) have decided to make their health a non-negotiable by putting themselves first. And they are loving it!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to girls without a box with Shelly and
Felicia! Even though we justsaid each other's names.
Yeah.
Just to psych you out.
So I am going to be really closeto my mic this entire time
because Jesse told me fort someconstructive criticism.
Jesse is our editorextraordinaire.
(00:24):
So I'm going to do exactly whathe tells me to do.
Yeah, you can't see us.
Uh, well it depends on whatpodcasts you're watching or
where it from.
But Felicia, I have the sameshirts on today.
We're rocking our Dovico purple,loving it.
Absolutely loving it.
Maybe we'll try to make that ora picture.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll take a picture after.
Okay, cool.
(00:44):
Yeah.
All right.
So today is podcast number two.
We are so excited that um, youknow, everyone who listened to
podcast one, we had greatfeedback.
So here we are again.
Yeah.
Um, so if you're a repeatcustomer, thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
Okay.
So it's still about the year ofme, 2019 the year of me.
(01:06):
And, uh, you know, Felicia andI, as you know, if you listened
to our last podcast, we are on ahealth set journey.
We have decided to make ourhealth non negotiable.
We have decided to put ourselvesfirst for once.
Yes.
And it's going to continue to bethat way for the rest of our
lives.
(01:26):
It's a non negotiable.
We're loving it.
It's like, yeah, right.
We're number one.
We're number one.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
And a, so we want to get into alittle bit about how we made
ourselves, number one, and howwe did that without feeling, um,
a whole lot of guilt.
(01:46):
Yeah.
Um, it's hard.
It was hard, wasn't it?
It's not a real easy thing to,um, all of a sudden say to
everybody around you, I'm goingto eat when I'm going to eat and
I'm not gonna have time to worryabout you.
Yeah, yeah.
You need to worry about, youneed to worry about you so I can
(02:07):
worry about me.
Right, exactly.
So we decided that we're goingto do us woo.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, we are.
Yeah.
And I think we're doing a reallygood job of it.
So we talk a little bit aboutwhat we're going to talk about
on this podcast, um, over thelast few weeks.
And it came back to our dailyhabits.
(02:28):
You know, what are we doing orwhat are we not doing?
So for me, um, it's reallyimportant.
My daily habits have made me whoI am today and I just keep
reinforcing these habits.
I only do what fuels my joy.
How about you love that.
How about you?
What do you do?
So I don't, I'm not asdisciplined as you in my day to
(02:51):
day habits per se.
I don't, I don't think I reallyhave a daily habit, but I make
sure that I make, you know, Imake better choices throughout
the day.
So, um,
Speaker 2 (03:00):
part of that includes that weekly meal prep that that
really saves me from, you know,going down that rabbit hole of,
oh, I have nothing to cook.
It's, you know, it's late andI'm in a rush and I'm hungry.
And I don't feel like cookingand it's been a long day at work
and, and, and, and so, yeah,just, just doing that meal prep
and having kind of those go to Ithink recipes in your back
(03:21):
pocket.
Um, and, and you know why I evenhave, like I do have some like
frozen pizzas at home, butthey're gluten and dairy free
for those times where I'm likein a pinch and I need something
quick, it's fine.
Like it's okay once in a whileit's just, it's not every night
now, you know, living off of,uh, you know,
Speaker 1 (03:38):
pizza bites and that's some French fries and
that staff can take you on thatslippery slope, you know, to
just feeling lousy.
Absolutely.
So a little bit of a reminder,you know, Felicia talked about
gluten and dairy free becauseshe's just recently found out
she is
Speaker 2 (03:56):
gluten and dairy braid and tolerant hall or I'm,
I have a high intolerance.
Actually, it's so funny cause Ihad my followup with my natural
path, uh, last week and he's,you know, just how's it going?
And, you know, it's been a whilesince we touched base.
So he's talking, you know, he'slike, man, he's like, most
people come in here with thatblood work and they get like a
three or a five in the glutenand dairy.
(04:17):
And he's like, you got a 23 anda 28 like, no wonder you didn't
feel good.
Like, yeah, it's crazy.
Right?
So, and now you're feeling, andI'm feeling so much better.
Like, oh my God, my energylevel.
And I've, people will come inlike, oh my God, like you look
clear in the face.
Like, you know, your energylevel is higher and you're just
like, look better.
(04:37):
You look healthy on my, I feelbetter.
I feel healthy and
Speaker 1 (04:41):
yeah, it's true.
It's amazing.
You know?
Uh, you know, our doctors, thegeneral practitioners will test
us for, you know, iron levels,celiac and the bigger thing.
Yes.
And maybe it's just a matter ofgoing to that natural past,
spending a moment and, and goingthere and finding out how to eat
for you.
(05:01):
Because, you know, notnecessarily, I mean, people can
do gluten, people can do Derekand fine.
Right?
Absolutely.
It's not everybody.
That's good.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And it could be something else for you might not
be gluten or dairy.
It might be, I, I don't, I can'trelate.
It could be green peppers.
Like honestly, it could beanything.
It could be like an earring.
If you notice that you eat a lotof one type of food and you
constantly don't feel good andlike, oh, well it can't be that,
you know, green peppers are goodfor me.
Well, yes they are.
They have a good nutritionalvalue, but they may not
Speaker 1 (05:31):
be good for you.
Yeah.
Green peppers are super hard todigest.
Oh, compared to the otherpeppers.
Yeah.
So it's weird.
I just picked that into my head.
Yeah.
So it's so interesting.
You know, I've been studyingfood a lot lately and uh, you
know, there's been so manydiscoveries for me.
Um, so I've recently lost 37pounds.
(05:51):
My husband.
Yeah.
My husband's been, ah, doesn'tneed to lose any weight and he's
actually lost 10 poundsthroughout our health set
journey.
And it was just about makingsure that the foods that we're
eating, we're correct for us.
Yeah.
It doesn't necessarily mean it'sgoing to be correct for you or
the others.
So it's difficult.
People, you know, what are youdoing?
How did you do that?
This is what I did, but it maynot be right for you.
(06:14):
So go find out what's right foryou.
Like what's your secret sweetpotatoes and chicken.
So that is, that is one ofFelicia's Daily Habits I've
noticed.
So you may not realize thatdaily habit that you have is
chicken and sweet potatoes.
You need to change that up,baby.
(06:35):
There's more things that you canhave, but you know, one of your
daily habits that you do do.
And, and I believe that this ispart of your energy, is you come
in every day and you have aJames rouse scoop.
You have a healthy scoop everyday, green smoothie.
Mm.
So you may not realize, um, youknow, some of those daily habits
(06:55):
that you are doing that, uh, youknow, giving you some
nutritional value in themorning, but you do, you go down
to Dorma, you have thatbeautiful green smoothie and you
put some scoop in there everyday for that protein.
And I mean, I believe that thatis part of your, uh, your energy
level, you know, taken away thegluten and the dairy of course
helps.
(07:16):
But sometimes what happens to usis we don't even realize the
habits that we're actuallydoing.
So true.
I was like, I don't, I didn'teven think of that as a habit
because, but it is, I mean, youdon't even start your day.
I know until I have that rightnow, sometimes I've noticed
you've gotten into the kitchenor you may be, um, you know,
doing a few dishes around andyou're like, oh, I gotta go get
(07:38):
my smoothie.
Right.
So true.
It's so true.
So that is truly one of yourdaily habits.
You're starting off your morningthat way.
You know, I would actually evensay to you, um, that green
smoothie is wonderful, but youcould actually have that with a
ton of micro Greens in there andthat would, I believe, boost
your energy that much more so itwouldn't be a bad thing.
(07:59):
Just even try.
Right.
Yeah.
Um, daily habits are one ofthose things that I believe has
made my life the way it is.
So my daily habits, I get up inthe morning every morning,
bright and early, and I workout.
I have a group that I work outwith.
I'm on zoom, really lots of funand, uh, it's a super sweaty
(08:21):
workout.
So I do two cardio workouts aweek, Monday, Tuesday, and the
rest of them are mostly strengthtraining.
And, uh, I'm 52 years old.
So I believe that women of myage, we tend to lose our muscle
mass and really, reallyimportant to keep those weights
in your hands.
And so I lift heavy.
And since then, um, I can't eventell you the strength that I
(08:45):
have is wonderful, but I feelthe power for something about
having the muscles that I don'thave to worry about who's going
to open the jar or lift thatthing.
I love that.
I love being strong because Ireally felt over the last five
years my, my muscles waning.
So I worked out a lot, but Ididn't lift heavy.
(09:06):
I mean I lifted eight poundweights, five and eight pound
weights, um, now on listlifting, uh, you know, 20 up to
20 pound weights in each hand.
So squats are all done with 40pounds in my hands and it has
been marvelous, but that's notmy only daily habit.
Um, and I think that you'll findout that you have a whole lot
more daily habits if you journalevery day.
(09:27):
So the, one of the things that Ihave gotten into, and I've
always been a big journaler, butI, um, I do it now right after I
work out.
And it's really important to mebecause not only can I reflect
on my workout and how good Ifeel are sweaty, I feel or, or
what came to me, um, during thatworkout.
But I can also see how wonderfulmy week has gone.
(09:52):
So when you reflect on yourjournal over the week, sometimes
you may feel that you've had anawful week.
Oh man, this week has beenreally crappy.
Like I how many things could gowrong cause they all went wrong.
Yup.
And in actuality, when I go backand look at my journal and
reflect on the week and actuallydo a small snippet at the end of
(10:13):
my week, it's been a great week.
Yeah.
There's a few bad moments, but Idon't reflect on though.
Yeah.
So at one time, I think I'vesaid this in the last podcast,
we're made up of negative bias.
That's just how we, we are.
We tend to celebrate for amoment.
And if something bad goes wrong,you stubbed your toe, you're
well bitching about that forlike two weeks.
(10:35):
I swear to God my toe stillhurts.
Oh.
You know.
So what happens to us is that'swhat we tend to carry with us is
the negatives.
And that's why the news doesn'tshow you a whole lot of fluffy
kitties stories.
Um, because that's not what'sgoing to bring their viewers in,
right.
It's going to be the, all thehardships that bring their
viewers in.
(10:55):
So, you know, we have a note nonews policy here at Davico and
I, um, I don't do the news.
I never really done the news.
You know, it just doesn't feelyour joy if anybody thinks
about, um, uh, you know, whathappens on the news.
I think what happens is you geta lot of heart palpitations and
(11:16):
you get yourself tense orworried about why.
Like what are you going to doabout it?
I mean, not to mention the factthat like the news is so twisted
and contorted, you're not reallygetting the real story anyway.
So I don't want to listen to ahalf truth.
Yeah.
Like I'm just not like, no, I'mgood.
Thanks.
(11:36):
And people will say, well,Shelley, how do you stay up on
current events?
If you don't listen to the news?
Well, my soul, you know, openyour ears.
You can certainly keep up oncurrent events.
You know, everybody's been doinga little Trudeau stuff going on
lately.
Google that stuff.
A little thing called Facebook.
Yeah.
We'll think on, um, but, butGoogle what you want to know, do
(11:57):
the more research on what you'reinterested about.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Or you're curious about, youknow, um, politics isn't my
thing.
Um, I tend not to dwell on it.
I do vote.
I always vote and I make surethat I always read the platforms
of each party, absolutely.
To make myself informed when Igo vote.
(12:18):
But no, I don't get caught up inthe day to day grind of the
news.
So, so, you know, that's, that'ssomething that hurts, that, that
Felicia and I don't do.
That's part of our daily, that'spart of our daily habits of
don't do not doing, not doingthat.
Um, so, you know, I, I'm verybig on daily habits.
I believe that everybody should,should have those habits in
(12:41):
place.
Um, uh, you know, one of mymentors is Robin Sharma.
I go to the Titan summit quite abit.
He talks about daily habits.
Those things will form your lifeand I truly believe it.
Now, I, I, uh, it's taken me afew years to have these specific
habits, um, laid out for me,like working out and journaling
(13:02):
and taking time to reflect eachday.
I do meditation each day.
As a matter of fact, I'm doingthe Oprah and, um, uh, Depok
meditation right now.
So good.
So good.
I love them both so much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Journaling.
Ah, I'm, I'm, I'm on and off onthe journaling.
(13:23):
Like I do so good for so longand then it's like, oh, it's
like the rest of my life.
I think it hasn't clicked in yetbecause I'll do so, so good
every day.
So, so, so good.
And then there'll be like twodays I won't.
And then it's like, oh no, Ihaven't journaled for a month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, it's difficult.
You know, habits are a difficultthing to, to make a ritual.
(13:44):
Yes.
Um, I guess I've got myself soset up now, you know, so I
finished that workout.
The Journal is right there.
I've always been a big journalerand I, I, I believe that that is
my way to express my thoughts.
Um, I always worry about, uh,when I die, who's going to look
(14:05):
at my journals though?
Because there are some prettypersonal stuff in there.
Um, but at the same time, youknow, eve mentioned that and
once you're dead, like whoreally cares, right?
Yeah.
What did they, what are theygoing to do?
Yeah.
So I, yeah, so I kind of reallylet that go, but I, I, it always
in the back of my mind when I'mwriting, I hesitate a little
(14:29):
bit.
So I'm really trying to overcomethat piece of me because I do
want to be able to, you know,put out what I want to put out.
Yeah.
So interesting.
I've never, I've never held backin my journal with like, and not
even care if anybody reads it.
Like, if they do, maybe they'llget an insight onto how I
actually think and feel.
Yeah, I would love to look atyour, I think I will swap one
(14:56):
day.
I would pay money for that.
I really would.
So daily habits are somethingthat I would love when this
podcast comes out.
I would love for you guys tocomment what your daily habits
are.
I love learning from others howthey make their day.
There's, yeah.
And if you don't think you haveany, ask somebody else.
(15:17):
Cause yeah, I I like, I didn'teven think about the smoothie
being a habit but it totally is.
Yeah.
And on the weekends I don't haveone.
I'm like Ugh.
So do you think you need one onthe weekends?
I don't know.
I think I, yeah, I think I needto start getting, okay, good.
Cause I ordered you microGreens.
I did.
I think, I swear to God, I'mreally into this now.
(15:38):
So we all get our macros, we allget our macro foods.
That's just like your regularfoods.
But it's, it's these foods thatwe used to eat years ago that we
tend not to eat anymore.
And uh, for some reason, youknow what, it could be the
placebo effect, but I doubt it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Anyways, you'll have to tell me.
(15:59):
So I wanted somebody else onthese things so you can kind of
go, man, is this making you feelgood?
It's making me feel like I haveenergy and my nails are strong
and my ah, like oh wow.
Yeah, I'm feeling, I'm feelingreally good from them and I'm
kind of like, you know, we'retalking like this is like ditch
food, you know, this is like,oh, it's just going to ask you
(16:19):
if there, if it was ditch foodspreads and stuff.
Like it doesn't, you know,anyways, the stuff that we have
as ground so we can do like asmoothie.
I bet you know, maybe we caneven add like a, some Chia or
something so we can make it alittle thicker.
Anyways, we'll let you know whenthe next podcast that goes.
So actually speaking of nextpodcast, so I just want to touch
(16:41):
really quickly on our lastpodcast of course.
So we talked about, um, youknow, how it was always, you
know, Shelly and I in thekitchen doing the dishes and
cutting up the carrots and noneand that, it's so funny.
We, uh, I, so I didn't actuallyask anybody to come do it, but
when the pockets podcast gotreleased, a few of them came and
said, well, if you asked me to,I, I would definitely cut the
(17:02):
carrots.
And I dunno if I reactedproperly or not, but I just
turned, I'm like, well, nobodyasked me to do them, but I do
them anyways, so nobody has toask you.
You can just come and do them.
So men in the office, we'restill waiting for somebody to
come and do that.
Carrots.
Yeah.
And that would be really coolfor us.
You know, we've seen you guyscome in to do the carrots.
(17:23):
I think that would be, yeah.
Although with Nikki here, itmakes a big difference.
Yeah.
She's here early, so we've gotan office chef was spoiled
rotten.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
She made a dip yesterday guys.
It is a ground cashew, a littlebit of onion, a little bit of
garlic powder.
Um, and she added summer savoryto this ground cashew tight mix.
(17:47):
It was this dip to the h lright.
The whole nother level.
Yeah.
She took it there.
She did.
She did.
It is now my signature summerdish that I am going to be
talking to people that, thatwhen they come up they go yum.
Is that good?
And honestly, how Yummy is that?
So soak those cashews overnightand mix that up.
Blend them up in a blender orprocessor or whatever you got.
(18:09):
Yeah.
Add those spices to it.
Little summer savory.
And you got yourself a Veggiedip.
Although, uh, Dominic looked atme and went Rupal ruffles, chips
all.
Yeah.
And I think would go, go withraffles truck, try to get gluten
and dairy free of event.
Actually fun back.
Most potato chips like plainplain potato chips are gluten
(18:31):
gluten free.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The potato, we learned the hardway.
My husband does, he buys themfrom the health food section, so
he does like sea salt andvinegar.
But just recently he went andgot to, they were called a New
York Cheddar.
And, uh, my husband, uh, isgluten and dairy intolerant as
well to the extreme.
And he never thought aboutCheddar being dairy, like hello.
(18:57):
Oh, he was so sick.
He was sick and I couldn'tfigure out, I mean, I'm running
around the house.
What did he eat?
What did he eat?
Cause I mean, I usually feedhim, but yeah, he's like, oh,
the chips, you're like, no,there's salt and vinegar.
No, their Cheddar Cheddar, Iswear to God.
Second, third and fourthingredient.
Dairy, dairy, dairy.
Yeah.
So be very careful.
You know, you gotta, you know,watch that stuff if you don't
(19:20):
read those ingredients.
And that's a thing I read in thelabels.
You have to take a course onreading the labels and the
labels are wrong.
So I just read Mark Hyman, um,this year and it was, oh, what
the heck should I eat?
And he talks about how, youknow, the ingredients are
somewhat okay.
Uh, but if there's 5% less sugarit anyways, there is some mix up
(19:45):
on or there is some approvalsfrom the government that if
there's 5% or less than 5% orless than they're allowed to say
that it's gluten or sugar freeor dairy.
You know, like what, that'sinsane.
It's insane.
Especially if you think forpeople who are like, you know,
for like full on Celiac like itlike, yeah.
You know, it really, it'sreally, really just terrible.
(20:08):
So eat raw as much as you can.
Yeah.
And a raw, a lot of people, myhusband said you have to stop
telling people that were eatingraw because people think that
reading like tar, tar cooked.
Yeah, steak, tar, tar and stuff.
And we don't dig that.
Like we believe that that a firewas invented for a reason to
cook or one who do, you know, wedon't believe in, in raw food.
(20:29):
We're not really good with Sushiand you know, certain Sushis
love the very vegan from Doma.
So good.
But I'm not, I'm not big intowrong, no fish or, or raw meat.
Raw food would be like, not riseand uncooked, but raw as in um,
natural,
Speaker 2 (20:48):
natural.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just, uh, you know, just toplain canned vegetables, cut
them yourself and, and uh, youknow, by, by your baby carrots.
Like baby carrots are so bad.
They're so processed.
It's crazy.
So just buy a bag of carrots forlike$2 cheaper and cut those
suckers up.
Lazy buggers or just eat itjust,
Speaker 1 (21:10):
okay.
The motion was made, there was alittle carrot carrot rabbit
thing going on there.
Awesome.
We should on video.
I know we do have a recordinggoing, but we need to find some
way because I think that we're,we're, our facial expressions
and whatnot are fabulous.
If I do funny, we'll, we can, wethink we have excellent
(21:30):
[inaudible] humor if you don'tthink so.
You don't have a good one ornot, sorry, sorry.
Not Sorry.
So Felicia, what keeps usmotivated?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know, I think we keep each other motivated.
That's how I feel in a way.
I think we do too.
Also, I think, well, I know forboth of us were, were losing
weight.
Shelly has, uh, certainlysurpassed me, but that's okay.
I'm, I'm on a different journeythan her and that's fine.
Um, Shelley's down 37 pounds andI'm down 23.
(22:04):
Um, Woo.
Yeah, it's, um, it's that goodfeeling of, you know, having
that accountability group andeveryone behind you and, and you
know, as the, I mean, when youchange, when you change your,
your eating habits to somethingbetter, you're naturally going
to lose weight because you havea lot of inflammation in your
body and stuff like that.
So, um, you know, it's likeyesterday I put on a shirt and a
(22:27):
blazer and the shirt was, lasttime I had it on, it was like
really just almost too tight.
And now it's like almost toobig.
It could be the last time.
You could be the last time Iwear it.
Yeah.
And the Blazer I put on in theblazer, it, it was too big.
I'm like, I can't, I can't eventry to get away with it.
Like, it looked sloppy.
So, um, and that's, I mean,that's a nice, that's a nice
(22:49):
feeling.
Like, you know, like man, andit's like, it's, I think we all
have those clothes in our closetwhere we, we, we just surpass
them because, because they don'tfeel our joy.
We, they don't bring happinessto us.
And I've tried actually reallyhard the last few years to, to,
um, to clean out my closet everyJanuary 1st.
And I go through things and ifthey don't bring me joy, they
didn't bring me a Oh man.
(23:10):
Like, oh look so good in that.
Like I like I got rid of ithonestly because I don't wear
it.
So why should I keep it in mycloset?
Um,
Speaker 1 (23:18):
good for you.
It's really important to whyclean out those old clothes.
Yes.
Um, and you know, we have somany places in town that need
those clothes.
Yes.
Especially the work clothes.
How many women just can't affordto put Dubai, that blazer to go
back into the workforce.
Yeah.
Blazers are expensive.
So, so important.
(23:39):
So you can actually, um, rightto Felicia and I, yes.
Anytime dove co.com or on there.
Cause we are dumping clotheslike you would not believe.
And, um, um, now I'm getting ridof them as well because I'm not,
I'm not coming back to those.
I'm never, I'm never going backto those clothes ever.
I'm never going to fit back intothe all that is like, I love
(24:00):
hearing that.
I love hearing that.
Unfortunately I didn't have thebravery to do that, so I
actually took them out of mycloset and I just put my spare
closet at least it on your maincloset anymore.
Third, third step.
Yeah.
It's a step in and I have goneup and down.
I got 20 years on you.
So I've gone up and down so manytimes.
(24:22):
Um, I do believe in myself.
I do a, I guess it's just thatlittle bit of self doubt that is
still talking to me, thatnegative narrative saying, you
know, and I think it's okay tokeep, you know, a sizer two
because you're going to, you'regoing to fluctuate.
It's going to happen, you know,five or 10 pounds.
It's okay.
And especially, you know, youget bloating and all that great
female stuff and not night.
(24:43):
You know what?
No.
Backtrack.
That's not female stuff.
Everyone gets blown.
Everyone gets it.
It happens.
So it's nice to have those,those pants where your, what you
typically would wear doesn't fitand you're like, ah, I need
something else.
But, but the, you know, I get alot of different sizes of those
guys.
Say the higher number.
Yeah.
Get rid of.
Yeah.
Like those size 14, 14, 12th arestill sitting there.
(25:06):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't get rid of them yet.
Cause I'm, I'm going to be a newone.
So yeah, no, no slow swap in.
Love that.
Yeah.
So motivation for us as is keyand last time we talked about
are wasting away group.
We're so thankful to Paula.
Thank you Paula.
Girlfriend of ours that, thatmade sure that that group was up
there and uh, we share, keeps itgoing and she keeps it going.
(25:29):
We share a dirty little secret.
We're trying to make that groupa little bit, um, a little bit
more dynamic.
Um, so anybody looking to beaccountable and you're able to
share your dirty little secretwasting away and just a, it's on
Facebook and you know, we canadd you at any time.
I don't know if the group issecret or not or if it's just a
(25:51):
close, if it's just a close,just a closed group and you can
find it and or you can reach outto or just reach out Shelly
butler, Felicia flow wailing andwe'll make sure that you're
there because having thataccountability and having all of
us girls in that safe spaceplace, cause it really is, it's
a safe place.
Nobody is is bothering you.
If you put on that two pounds orthat five pounds, we are just
(26:15):
high fiving you and saying we'rehere for you.
What do you need from us?
And it's okay.
It happens sometimes.
It's like well you know what,now it's a whole new day
tomorrow.
Oh absolutely.
Pat went away to Mexico and puton five pounds.
I was like, good for you, goodtime.
You know, and you know what, thenext week it was probably
inflammation because the nextweek she took it all off.
You know, she actually won thatweek.
(26:36):
Yeah, she did.
Right.
There's a good way to win.
Go to Mexico for a week, drinkyour face off and then come back
and Ding, Ding, Ding.
Yeah.
So, um, another way Felicia, Ikeep ourselves motivated is
every day we come into work andwe talk about how hot we are
with each other.
Yeah.
And anybody who will listen toanyone who was around.
(26:57):
Yeah.
It's so important.
It's so is, yeah.
That's self love.
And I think sometimes we can'talways, I feel, um, get that
love of ourselves from inside.
Sometimes it has to, um, stemfrom someone else.
Um, you know, constantly tellingyou, no, you're beautiful,
(27:19):
you're hot.
Like girl, check that ass.
Yeah.
It just gets bleeds.
But yeah.
Um, no, I mean it's an, it'sreally important.
Like they'll kept telling meabout my face shrinking.
Right.
Oh my God.
Show me your face.
That's getting smaller andsmaller as it.
Yeah.
Well, when you notice my assgetting smaller than I need a
comment, we'll talk then.
Yeah.
It's, I think it's important to,uh, um, you know, I was being
(27:41):
facetious.
I was being trying to be funny.
Yes, yes, yes.
Um, you know, I think it's soimportant that we uplift.
I think so many women are incompetition with each other and
that's how you mentioned before,we're in no competition.
We are doing each, each other.
It's sort of, um, but what's soimportant for us is to just be,
(28:02):
keep ourselves motivated andjust keep ourselves in a place
yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Of, uh, Vonn beautification.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Can we pause for a moment?
Yes.
I Dunno.
Okay.
Forget it.
We don't need to pause.
My apologies.
My apologies.
He's gonna he can edit this out,right?
Yeah, absolutely.
My fault.
Okay.
I thought I was my surgeoncalling.
I was like, I can't miss again.
Oh my God.
So funny.
(28:33):
Oops.
Sorry.
That's okay.
All right.
So we were talking about, yeah.
Motivation.
Um, and what keeps us motivatedand we keep each other
motivated.
It's okay.
It's okay to reach out to yourfellow coworker, you know, your
best friend and let them knowhow wonderful they look.
(28:54):
[inaudible] let them know howproud you are of them.
Yeah.
Male or female.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I think so many people arein competition with each other.
Like I was just saying, and itscares me a little bit when
people are trying to um, be alittle better than you are.
B and B being a little betterthan him or her.
(29:15):
Yes.
I, I think, I think a healthycompetition is okay.
Like of course, you know, likein our group wasting away, like
we have a winner each week that,you know, when's a little pot of
money cause they lost the mostamount of weight.
Like that's a healthycompetition.
But doing it in spite of, oh,like there's no way I can let
her get ahead of me.
Um, you know, that sort of, Idunno, conniving, that's not
(29:38):
really the word I want to say.
But um, hidden agenda, a hiddenagenda.
You know, I had a, I have hadpeople reach out to me and say,
are you eating?
Are you eating?
Uh, I am definitely eating someeating my way skinny.
I'm eating my waist skinny.
(29:59):
Exactly.
Cause I worked out for a longtime and everybody knows that I
worked out for a long time causeI post it and, and, but yeah, I
didn't lose any weight then.
Right.
But it's like, well, like yousay, you know, yes I'm doing the
workouts but I'm still having abag of trips and I always did.
Yeah.
I never tried to hide.
You know, I'm just eating reallycrappy and that was me.
(30:20):
I ate from the moment I finishedsupper until the moment I went
to bed.
Um, so I don't do that anymore.
I've removed those sugarproducts from my life and I saw,
I don't crave it a, so it'sreally important that everybody
understands that sugar is asaddictive as cocaine or heroin.
Not Crazy.
That is crazy.
Yeah.
Like main line in that stuff,right?
(30:42):
Yeah.
Get off the sugar, man.
It's so bad.
And there's, and you know what Ilearned?
I learned, well, I learned aboutcane sugar.
Yeah.
Right.
That was from Dama downstairs.
But I just figured it was justas bad as processed sugar, but
it's not.
It's not.
But I just discovered palmcoconut sugar.
What?
Okay.
I don't know what that is.
(31:03):
So good.
Oh my God.
You got to go buy some, it wasa, I make these a, a millionaire
burrs.
Oh yes.
You were telling me about themand it calls for this, uh, this
coconut sugar and it is, it'slike, it kind of looks like a
brown sugar, but the smell of itis just unbelievable.
So these natural products thatwere, were, you know, dwelling
(31:25):
into now.
Oh my God.
So good.
And I'll tell you somethingelse.
My husband, when he firststarted using, um, using, when
he first started eating theJames to see that main line
stuff, when he first startedeating those James a scoop
cookies, he was like, Oh God,Yuck.
Oh No.
That was me.
I'm like, how dare you call thisa cookie, right?
(31:47):
Blasphemy.
The cookies that Nikki made thatyou and I love so much that have
no sugar in them whatsoever, alittle bit of Maple Syrup.
He thought they sucked.
Oh, now line.
Now he thinks those are the twoof the best cookies he ever.
So isn't that weird?
Once you actually get your tastebuds back, yes.
All of a sudden these foods,you're actually tasting these,
(32:08):
these raw foods, these realfoods.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but even before I went tolike, you know, natural like raw
foods like those cookies thatNikki makes are sorted.
I delicious.
Love.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Best cookies ever fessed cookieagain.
We have to put a big shout outto Nikki and how spoiled we are
because Dova co has their ownpersonal chef.
(32:31):
That's how important food is tous.
So at Dover software we have aculture set like no other and we
truly believe in culture to thepoint where, um, you know, eve
like in debt to, we are aculture company disguised as a
timesheet company.
That's product that we sell.
We Sell Dova Co time sheet andit's great it costing billing,
(32:54):
you know, we can, we can sell itto any industry, uh, because it
really fits in.
If you have a project that needsto be billed, we are the
software for you.
Um, but I think what was soimportant to us and what people
were recognizing us for is ourcompany culture.
And Yeah, we've got a productcoming out that is going to help
others build their companyculture because what was
(33:17):
happening to us as people werereaching out saying, well, where
do you begin?
And we kept saying by answeringthe telephone with a purpose and
cutting carrots, serving thecarrots, but nobody got that
right.
They didn't get what that meant.
And it's such a, uh, but that'sreally where we started.
That really is.
Yeah.
That's really where we startedforeign concept.
(33:37):
But it's really not in a waylike, you know, yeah, yeah.
Feed your people good.
Yeah.
And answer the phone for yourcustomer.
So one thing that we did, andwhen we say answer the phone
with a purpose, uh, we wouldanswer the phone and we would
verify the records.
How can we get your, you know,as a, is that still the primary
contact and is this the correctemail address?
(33:59):
We weren't serving the customerthat was for us, for us.
Yeah.
So you know, don't you deal withthat aside from the phone, you
don't deal with that when thecustomer is calling in for tech
problem word, you know Rogersand Telus and all you people
stop that.
Right.
Because whenever you have todial that toll free number for a
support, do you, it just haslike a feeling of dread.
(34:22):
Oh, you're like hours of yourlife that you're never going to
get back.
Right.
And You wonder if you're evengoing to get an answer.
You do.
You're really, nowadays we areso concerned, um, about that
time that we spend that weactually will deflect that call.
Right.
And it'd be like, oh, did youmake that call yet to, to make
that call?
You're like, no, I know that Iwill never get those hours back.
(34:46):
And it's not moments anymore.
It's like, you know, it's goingto be ours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's awful.
It is awful.
They have to fix that.
Yes, they do.
So going back to what motivatesus is each other.
Each other.
Yeah.
Find your, find your partner,find your person who understands
you.
Find somebody that loves youunconditionally.
(35:07):
Yeah.
Suntans to be your significantother.
I was just going to saysometimes it's not your spouse
know, like, like you're like mysoulmate.
Oh, you are my soulmate shower.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well Felicia always says we'repartners.
Like we're going to packagedeals.
Yeah.
We're going together wherever wego from here on till till the
end of that time.
Yeah.
Till we pluck each other'sfacial hair.
(35:30):
We know who's, who's plugging mychin hair.
That's right.
Do you find them yet?
Did you find them yet?
Right down that to let us knowthat too.
So we want to know your dailyhabits that we want to know your
soul partner and if you foundone, because if you haven't
found one were fabulousmatchmakers, we are, we could
maybe help you out with that andwe can, we can do our best for
sure.
(35:50):
So I wanna end on, um, how proudwe are of ourselves.
Yes.
So proud.
And it's so important.
Do not diminish youraccomplishments.
Shout them out in the rooftops.
Absolutely.
Look what I did.
And that's, you know, reallythat's part of our daily habits
as well is because we do talk toeach other every morning.
(36:13):
We tell each other how fabulouswe are.
Um, and uh, you know, how greator has this right we do.
Um, and even right down to likemy feet, I was talking about my
feet lab, I'm like, oh, I've gotlike big, cutest fee.
Yeah.
Ever.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So I think it's so important tolove yourself and find a way to
(36:33):
love yourself.
Start with one part.
So I'm going to remind you, Ibelieve that I said this in the
last podcast.
Look in the mirror while you'rebrushing your teeth, you're
going to take that two minuteswhile you're brushing your
teeth.
You really shouldn't be spendingtwo minutes and at least, yeah.
And look at yourself in thatmirror with soft eyes.
You're always looking atyourself, you know, or the
(36:55):
pimple or your eyebrows or, orwhatever it is that you think is
imperfection.
Go past that.
And I want you to look atyourself with soft eyes.
And I want you to say in themirror that you love you.
I look in the mirror everymorning and I say, I love you.
It was so difficult at first.
I've given this over to a lot ofmy friends.
(37:16):
They think that I'm crazy.
Within a month they come backand say, wow, that really
worked.
Because we judge ourselves soharshly.
We do.
I feel like the more of us thatcan love ourselves, the more of
you can love yourself.
(37:37):
Uh, we, uh, well I had a commentthe other day about that going,
man, like, you're so confident.
I'm like, I don't know if it'sconfidence, more of just self
love.
I just like, I don't look atmyself and tell me self that
it's telling myself, don't tellme self that 11 itself, it's the
maritime maritime coming out.
No, but I, I don't look atmyself and say, I love you, but
(37:58):
I do walk by and go, girl, youlook in fun.
And I love that.
I love that you're the one whoactually taught me that, um,
that I could be that and I coulddo that.
And, and I so appreciate you forthat.
And I'm so grateful.
Um, you know, uh, another mentorof mine is James Rouse, and I
(38:19):
absolutely love that man.
And he posted the other day,we're so busy being humans doing
that.
We forgot to be human beings.
Oh, I love that.
Oh my God.
I just got like, because he'sbrilliant.
Yeah.
He's absolutely brilliant.
(38:39):
Yeah.
And I think that it's, it's timethat we understand, uh, Monkton
especially, um, that your heartneeds to come first.
Yeah.
So many people think thatintelligence is the do all and
be all.
If you're smart, you will makeit, you can learn anything.
(38:59):
You can be taught and kneeskill.
Absolutely.
But you cannot learnpersonality.
You can't learn love.
You can't, these are not thingstaught from a book that are
taught in universities or inschool.
It's, it's, uh, something thatyou need to do.
That's right.
Yeah.
Have Heart.
(39:19):
But don't be afraid to show yourheart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Be Vulnerable a little bit.
Yeah.
Love that.
And we're going to end therebecause we are now 40 minutes in
or a little, we're a little overour half an hour goal, but still
not bad.
Oh, I think we did.
We covered a lot today.
Did Awesome.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
We love you so much.
Get your workout in.
Welcome to girls without a box with Shelly and
Felicia! Even though we justsaid each other's names.
Yeah.
Just to psych you out.
So I am going to be really closeto my mic this entire time
because Jesse told me fort someconstructive criticism.
Jesse is our editorextraordinaire.
(00:24):
So I'm going to do exactly whathe tells me to do.
Yeah, you can't see us.
Uh, well it depends on whatpodcasts you're watching or
where it from.
But Felicia, I have the sameshirts on today.
We're rocking our Dovico purple,loving it.
Absolutely loving it.
Maybe we'll try to make that ora picture.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll take a picture after.
Okay, cool.
(00:44):
Yeah.
All right.
So today is podcast number two.
We are so excited that um, youknow, everyone who listened to
podcast one, we had greatfeedback.
So here we are again.
Yeah.
Um, so if you're a repeatcustomer, thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
Okay.
So it's still about the year ofme, 2019 the year of me.
(01:06):
And, uh, you know, Felicia andI, as you know, if you listened
to our last podcast, we are on ahealth set journey.
We have decided to make ourhealth non negotiable.
We have decided to put ourselvesfirst for once.
Yes.
And it's going to continue to bethat way for the rest of our
lives.
(01:26):
It's a non negotiable.
We're loving it.
It's like, yeah, right.
We're number one.
We're number one.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
And a, so we want to get into alittle bit about how we made
ourselves, number one, and howwe did that without feeling, um,
a whole lot of guilt.
(01:46):
Yeah.
Um, it's hard.
It was hard, wasn't it?
It's not a real easy thing to,um, all of a sudden say to
everybody around you, I'm goingto eat when I'm going to eat and
I'm not gonna have time to worryabout you.
Yeah, yeah.
You need to worry about, youneed to worry about you so I can
(02:07):
worry about me.
Right, exactly.
So we decided that we're goingto do us woo.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, we are.
Yeah.
And I think we're doing a reallygood job of it.
So we talk a little bit aboutwhat we're going to talk about
on this podcast, um, over thelast few weeks.
And it came back to our dailyhabits.
(02:28):
You know, what are we doing orwhat are we not doing?
So for me, um, it's reallyimportant.
My daily habits have made me whoI am today and I just keep
reinforcing these habits.
I only do what fuels my joy.
How about you love that.
How about you?
What do you do?
So I don't, I'm not asdisciplined as you in my day to
(02:51):
day habits per se.
I don't, I don't think I reallyhave a daily habit, but I make
sure that I make, you know, Imake better choices throughout
the day.
So, um,
Speaker 2 (03:00):
part of that includes that weekly meal prep that that
really saves me from, you know,going down that rabbit hole of,
oh, I have nothing to cook.
It's, you know, it's late andI'm in a rush and I'm hungry.
And I don't feel like cookingand it's been a long day at work
and, and, and, and so, yeah,just, just doing that meal prep
and having kind of those go to Ithink recipes in your back
(03:21):
pocket.
Um, and, and you know why I evenhave, like I do have some like
frozen pizzas at home, butthey're gluten and dairy free
for those times where I'm likein a pinch and I need something
quick, it's fine.
Like it's okay once in a whileit's just, it's not every night
now, you know, living off of,uh, you know,
Speaker 1 (03:38):
pizza bites and that's some French fries and
that staff can take you on thatslippery slope, you know, to
just feeling lousy.
Absolutely.
So a little bit of a reminder,you know, Felicia talked about
gluten and dairy free becauseshe's just recently found out
she is
Speaker 2 (03:56):
gluten and dairy braid and tolerant hall or I'm,
I have a high intolerance.
Actually, it's so funny cause Ihad my followup with my natural
path, uh, last week and he's,you know, just how's it going?
And, you know, it's been a whilesince we touched base.
So he's talking, you know, he'slike, man, he's like, most
people come in here with thatblood work and they get like a
three or a five in the glutenand dairy.
(04:17):
And he's like, you got a 23 anda 28 like, no wonder you didn't
feel good.
Like, yeah, it's crazy.
Right?
So, and now you're feeling, andI'm feeling so much better.
Like, oh my God, my energylevel.
And I've, people will come inlike, oh my God, like you look
clear in the face.
Like, you know, your energylevel is higher and you're just
like, look better.
(04:37):
You look healthy on my, I feelbetter.
I feel healthy and
Speaker 1 (04:41):
yeah, it's true.
It's amazing.
You know?
Uh, you know, our doctors, thegeneral practitioners will test
us for, you know, iron levels,celiac and the bigger thing.
Yes.
And maybe it's just a matter ofgoing to that natural past,
spending a moment and, and goingthere and finding out how to eat
for you.
(05:01):
Because, you know, notnecessarily, I mean, people can
do gluten, people can do Derekand fine.
Right?
Absolutely.
It's not everybody.
That's good.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And it could be something else for you might not
be gluten or dairy.
It might be, I, I don't, I can'trelate.
It could be green peppers.
Like honestly, it could beanything.
It could be like an earring.
If you notice that you eat a lotof one type of food and you
constantly don't feel good andlike, oh, well it can't be that,
you know, green peppers are goodfor me.
Well, yes they are.
They have a good nutritionalvalue, but they may not
Speaker 1 (05:31):
be good for you.
Yeah.
Green peppers are super hard todigest.
Oh, compared to the otherpeppers.
Yeah.
So it's weird.
I just picked that into my head.
Yeah.
So it's so interesting.
You know, I've been studyingfood a lot lately and uh, you
know, there's been so manydiscoveries for me.
Um, so I've recently lost 37pounds.
(05:51):
My husband.
Yeah.
My husband's been, ah, doesn'tneed to lose any weight and he's
actually lost 10 poundsthroughout our health set
journey.
And it was just about makingsure that the foods that we're
eating, we're correct for us.
Yeah.
It doesn't necessarily mean it'sgoing to be correct for you or
the others.
So it's difficult.
People, you know, what are youdoing?
How did you do that?
This is what I did, but it maynot be right for you.
(06:14):
So go find out what's right foryou.
Like what's your secret sweetpotatoes and chicken.
So that is, that is one ofFelicia's Daily Habits I've
noticed.
So you may not realize thatdaily habit that you have is
chicken and sweet potatoes.
You need to change that up,baby.
(06:35):
There's more things that you canhave, but you know, one of your
daily habits that you do do.
And, and I believe that this ispart of your energy, is you come
in every day and you have aJames rouse scoop.
You have a healthy scoop everyday, green smoothie.
Mm.
So you may not realize, um, youknow, some of those daily habits
(06:55):
that you are doing that, uh, youknow, giving you some
nutritional value in themorning, but you do, you go down
to Dorma, you have thatbeautiful green smoothie and you
put some scoop in there everyday for that protein.
And I mean, I believe that thatis part of your, uh, your energy
level, you know, taken away thegluten and the dairy of course
helps.
(07:16):
But sometimes what happens to usis we don't even realize the
habits that we're actuallydoing.
So true.
I was like, I don't, I didn'teven think of that as a habit
because, but it is, I mean, youdon't even start your day.
I know until I have that rightnow, sometimes I've noticed
you've gotten into the kitchenor you may be, um, you know,
doing a few dishes around andyou're like, oh, I gotta go get
(07:38):
my smoothie.
Right.
So true.
It's so true.
So that is truly one of yourdaily habits.
You're starting off your morningthat way.
You know, I would actually evensay to you, um, that green
smoothie is wonderful, but youcould actually have that with a
ton of micro Greens in there andthat would, I believe, boost
your energy that much more so itwouldn't be a bad thing.
(07:59):
Just even try.
Right.
Yeah.
Um, daily habits are one ofthose things that I believe has
made my life the way it is.
So my daily habits, I get up inthe morning every morning,
bright and early, and I workout.
I have a group that I work outwith.
I'm on zoom, really lots of funand, uh, it's a super sweaty
(08:21):
workout.
So I do two cardio workouts aweek, Monday, Tuesday, and the
rest of them are mostly strengthtraining.
And, uh, I'm 52 years old.
So I believe that women of myage, we tend to lose our muscle
mass and really, reallyimportant to keep those weights
in your hands.
And so I lift heavy.
And since then, um, I can't eventell you the strength that I
(08:45):
have is wonderful, but I feelthe power for something about
having the muscles that I don'thave to worry about who's going
to open the jar or lift thatthing.
I love that.
I love being strong because Ireally felt over the last five
years my, my muscles waning.
So I worked out a lot, but Ididn't lift heavy.
(09:06):
I mean I lifted eight poundweights, five and eight pound
weights, um, now on listlifting, uh, you know, 20 up to
20 pound weights in each hand.
So squats are all done with 40pounds in my hands and it has
been marvelous, but that's notmy only daily habit.
Um, and I think that you'll findout that you have a whole lot
more daily habits if you journalevery day.
(09:27):
So the, one of the things that Ihave gotten into, and I've
always been a big journaler, butI, um, I do it now right after I
work out.
And it's really important to mebecause not only can I reflect
on my workout and how good Ifeel are sweaty, I feel or, or
what came to me, um, during thatworkout.
But I can also see how wonderfulmy week has gone.
(09:52):
So when you reflect on yourjournal over the week, sometimes
you may feel that you've had anawful week.
Oh man, this week has beenreally crappy.
Like I how many things could gowrong cause they all went wrong.
Yup.
And in actuality, when I go backand look at my journal and
reflect on the week and actuallydo a small snippet at the end of
(10:13):
my week, it's been a great week.
Yeah.
There's a few bad moments, but Idon't reflect on though.
Yeah.
So at one time, I think I'vesaid this in the last podcast,
we're made up of negative bias.
That's just how we, we are.
We tend to celebrate for amoment.
And if something bad goes wrong,you stubbed your toe, you're
well bitching about that forlike two weeks.
(10:35):
I swear to God my toe stillhurts.
Oh.
You know.
So what happens to us is that'swhat we tend to carry with us is
the negatives.
And that's why the news doesn'tshow you a whole lot of fluffy
kitties stories.
Um, because that's not what'sgoing to bring their viewers in,
right.
It's going to be the, all thehardships that bring their
viewers in.
(10:55):
So, you know, we have a note nonews policy here at Davico and
I, um, I don't do the news.
I never really done the news.
You know, it just doesn't feelyour joy if anybody thinks
about, um, uh, you know, whathappens on the news.
I think what happens is you geta lot of heart palpitations and
(11:16):
you get yourself tense orworried about why.
Like what are you going to doabout it?
I mean, not to mention the factthat like the news is so twisted
and contorted, you're not reallygetting the real story anyway.
So I don't want to listen to ahalf truth.
Yeah.
Like I'm just not like, no, I'mgood.
Thanks.
(11:36):
And people will say, well,Shelley, how do you stay up on
current events?
If you don't listen to the news?
Well, my soul, you know, openyour ears.
You can certainly keep up oncurrent events.
You know, everybody's been doinga little Trudeau stuff going on
lately.
Google that stuff.
A little thing called Facebook.
Yeah.
We'll think on, um, but, butGoogle what you want to know, do
(11:57):
the more research on what you'reinterested about.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Or you're curious about, youknow, um, politics isn't my
thing.
Um, I tend not to dwell on it.
I do vote.
I always vote and I make surethat I always read the platforms
of each party, absolutely.
To make myself informed when Igo vote.
(12:18):
But no, I don't get caught up inthe day to day grind of the
news.
So, so, you know, that's, that'ssomething that hurts, that, that
Felicia and I don't do.
That's part of our daily, that'spart of our daily habits of
don't do not doing, not doingthat.
Um, so, you know, I, I'm verybig on daily habits.
I believe that everybody should,should have those habits in
(12:41):
place.
Um, uh, you know, one of mymentors is Robin Sharma.
I go to the Titan summit quite abit.
He talks about daily habits.
Those things will form your lifeand I truly believe it.
Now, I, I, uh, it's taken me afew years to have these specific
habits, um, laid out for me,like working out and journaling
(13:02):
and taking time to reflect eachday.
I do meditation each day.
As a matter of fact, I'm doingthe Oprah and, um, uh, Depok
meditation right now.
So good.
So good.
I love them both so much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Journaling.
Ah, I'm, I'm, I'm on and off onthe journaling.
(13:23):
Like I do so good for so longand then it's like, oh, it's
like the rest of my life.
I think it hasn't clicked in yetbecause I'll do so, so good
every day.
So, so, so good.
And then there'll be like twodays I won't.
And then it's like, oh no, Ihaven't journaled for a month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, it's difficult.
You know, habits are a difficultthing to, to make a ritual.
(13:44):
Yes.
Um, I guess I've got myself soset up now, you know, so I
finished that workout.
The Journal is right there.
I've always been a big journalerand I, I, I believe that that is
my way to express my thoughts.
Um, I always worry about, uh,when I die, who's going to look
(14:05):
at my journals though?
Because there are some prettypersonal stuff in there.
Um, but at the same time, youknow, eve mentioned that and
once you're dead, like whoreally cares, right?
Yeah.
What did they, what are theygoing to do?
Yeah.
So I, yeah, so I kind of reallylet that go, but I, I, it always
in the back of my mind when I'mwriting, I hesitate a little
(14:29):
bit.
So I'm really trying to overcomethat piece of me because I do
want to be able to, you know,put out what I want to put out.
Yeah.
So interesting.
I've never, I've never held backin my journal with like, and not
even care if anybody reads it.
Like, if they do, maybe they'llget an insight onto how I
actually think and feel.
Yeah, I would love to look atyour, I think I will swap one
(14:56):
day.
I would pay money for that.
I really would.
So daily habits are somethingthat I would love when this
podcast comes out.
I would love for you guys tocomment what your daily habits
are.
I love learning from others howthey make their day.
There's, yeah.
And if you don't think you haveany, ask somebody else.
(15:17):
Cause yeah, I I like, I didn'teven think about the smoothie
being a habit but it totally is.
Yeah.
And on the weekends I don't haveone.
I'm like Ugh.
So do you think you need one onthe weekends?
I don't know.
I think I, yeah, I think I needto start getting, okay, good.
Cause I ordered you microGreens.
I did.
I think, I swear to God, I'mreally into this now.
(15:38):
So we all get our macros, we allget our macro foods.
That's just like your regularfoods.
But it's, it's these foods thatwe used to eat years ago that we
tend not to eat anymore.
And uh, for some reason, youknow what, it could be the
placebo effect, but I doubt it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Anyways, you'll have to tell me.
(15:59):
So I wanted somebody else onthese things so you can kind of
go, man, is this making you feelgood?
It's making me feel like I haveenergy and my nails are strong
and my ah, like oh wow.
Yeah, I'm feeling, I'm feelingreally good from them and I'm
kind of like, you know, we'retalking like this is like ditch
food, you know, this is like,oh, it's just going to ask you
(16:19):
if there, if it was ditch foodspreads and stuff.
Like it doesn't, you know,anyways, the stuff that we have
as ground so we can do like asmoothie.
I bet you know, maybe we caneven add like a, some Chia or
something so we can make it alittle thicker.
Anyways, we'll let you know whenthe next podcast that goes.
So actually speaking of nextpodcast, so I just want to touch
(16:41):
really quickly on our lastpodcast of course.
So we talked about, um, youknow, how it was always, you
know, Shelly and I in thekitchen doing the dishes and
cutting up the carrots and noneand that, it's so funny.
We, uh, I, so I didn't actuallyask anybody to come do it, but
when the pockets podcast gotreleased, a few of them came and
said, well, if you asked me to,I, I would definitely cut the
(17:02):
carrots.
And I dunno if I reactedproperly or not, but I just
turned, I'm like, well, nobodyasked me to do them, but I do
them anyways, so nobody has toask you.
You can just come and do them.
So men in the office, we'restill waiting for somebody to
come and do that.
Carrots.
Yeah.
And that would be really coolfor us.
You know, we've seen you guyscome in to do the carrots.
(17:23):
I think that would be, yeah.
Although with Nikki here, itmakes a big difference.
Yeah.
She's here early, so we've gotan office chef was spoiled
rotten.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
She made a dip yesterday guys.
It is a ground cashew, a littlebit of onion, a little bit of
garlic powder.
Um, and she added summer savoryto this ground cashew tight mix.
(17:47):
It was this dip to the h lright.
The whole nother level.
Yeah.
She took it there.
She did.
She did.
It is now my signature summerdish that I am going to be
talking to people that, thatwhen they come up they go yum.
Is that good?
And honestly, how Yummy is that?
So soak those cashews overnightand mix that up.
Blend them up in a blender orprocessor or whatever you got.
(18:09):
Yeah.
Add those spices to it.
Little summer savory.
And you got yourself a Veggiedip.
Although, uh, Dominic looked atme and went Rupal ruffles, chips
all.
Yeah.
And I think would go, go withraffles truck, try to get gluten
and dairy free of event.
Actually fun back.
Most potato chips like plainplain potato chips are gluten
(18:31):
gluten free.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The potato, we learned the hardway.
My husband does, he buys themfrom the health food section, so
he does like sea salt andvinegar.
But just recently he went andgot to, they were called a New
York Cheddar.
And, uh, my husband, uh, isgluten and dairy intolerant as
well to the extreme.
And he never thought aboutCheddar being dairy, like hello.
(18:57):
Oh, he was so sick.
He was sick and I couldn'tfigure out, I mean, I'm running
around the house.
What did he eat?
What did he eat?
Cause I mean, I usually feedhim, but yeah, he's like, oh,
the chips, you're like, no,there's salt and vinegar.
No, their Cheddar Cheddar, Iswear to God.
Second, third and fourthingredient.
Dairy, dairy, dairy.
Yeah.
So be very careful.
You know, you gotta, you know,watch that stuff if you don't
(19:20):
read those ingredients.
And that's a thing I read in thelabels.
You have to take a course onreading the labels and the
labels are wrong.
So I just read Mark Hyman, um,this year and it was, oh, what
the heck should I eat?
And he talks about how, youknow, the ingredients are
somewhat okay.
Uh, but if there's 5% less sugarit anyways, there is some mix up
(19:45):
on or there is some approvalsfrom the government that if
there's 5% or less than 5% orless than they're allowed to say
that it's gluten or sugar freeor dairy.
You know, like what, that'sinsane.
It's insane.
Especially if you think forpeople who are like, you know,
for like full on Celiac like itlike, yeah.
You know, it really, it'sreally, really just terrible.
(20:08):
So eat raw as much as you can.
Yeah.
And a raw, a lot of people, myhusband said you have to stop
telling people that were eatingraw because people think that
reading like tar, tar cooked.
Yeah, steak, tar, tar and stuff.
And we don't dig that.
Like we believe that that a firewas invented for a reason to
cook or one who do, you know, wedon't believe in, in raw food.
(20:29):
We're not really good with Sushiand you know, certain Sushis
love the very vegan from Doma.
So good.
But I'm not, I'm not big intowrong, no fish or, or raw meat.
Raw food would be like, not riseand uncooked, but raw as in um,
natural,
Speaker 2 (20:48):
natural.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just, uh, you know, just toplain canned vegetables, cut
them yourself and, and uh, youknow, by, by your baby carrots.
Like baby carrots are so bad.
They're so processed.
It's crazy.
So just buy a bag of carrots forlike$2 cheaper and cut those
suckers up.
Lazy buggers or just eat itjust,
Speaker 1 (21:10):
okay.
The motion was made, there was alittle carrot carrot rabbit
thing going on there.
Awesome.
We should on video.
I know we do have a recordinggoing, but we need to find some
way because I think that we're,we're, our facial expressions
and whatnot are fabulous.
If I do funny, we'll, we can, wethink we have excellent
(21:30):
[inaudible] humor if you don'tthink so.
You don't have a good one ornot, sorry, sorry.
Not Sorry.
So Felicia, what keeps usmotivated?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know, I think we keep each other motivated.
That's how I feel in a way.
I think we do too.
Also, I think, well, I know forboth of us were, were losing
weight.
Shelly has, uh, certainlysurpassed me, but that's okay.
I'm, I'm on a different journeythan her and that's fine.
Um, Shelley's down 37 pounds andI'm down 23.
(22:04):
Um, Woo.
Yeah, it's, um, it's that goodfeeling of, you know, having
that accountability group andeveryone behind you and, and you
know, as the, I mean, when youchange, when you change your,
your eating habits to somethingbetter, you're naturally going
to lose weight because you havea lot of inflammation in your
body and stuff like that.
So, um, you know, it's likeyesterday I put on a shirt and a
(22:27):
blazer and the shirt was, lasttime I had it on, it was like
really just almost too tight.
And now it's like almost toobig.
It could be the last time.
You could be the last time Iwear it.
Yeah.
And the Blazer I put on in theblazer, it, it was too big.
I'm like, I can't, I can't eventry to get away with it.
Like, it looked sloppy.
So, um, and that's, I mean,that's a nice, that's a nice
(22:49):
feeling.
Like, you know, like man, andit's like, it's, I think we all
have those clothes in our closetwhere we, we, we just surpass
them because, because they don'tfeel our joy.
We, they don't bring happinessto us.
And I've tried actually reallyhard the last few years to, to,
um, to clean out my closet everyJanuary 1st.
And I go through things and ifthey don't bring me joy, they
didn't bring me a Oh man.
(23:10):
Like, oh look so good in that.
Like I like I got rid of ithonestly because I don't wear
it.
So why should I keep it in mycloset?
Um,
Speaker 1 (23:18):
good for you.
It's really important to whyclean out those old clothes.
Yes.
Um, and you know, we have somany places in town that need
those clothes.
Yes.
Especially the work clothes.
How many women just can't affordto put Dubai, that blazer to go
back into the workforce.
Yeah.
Blazers are expensive.
So, so important.
(23:39):
So you can actually, um, rightto Felicia and I, yes.
Anytime dove co.com or on there.
Cause we are dumping clotheslike you would not believe.
And, um, um, now I'm getting ridof them as well because I'm not,
I'm not coming back to those.
I'm never, I'm never going backto those clothes ever.
I'm never going to fit back intothe all that is like, I love
(24:00):
hearing that.
I love hearing that.
Unfortunately I didn't have thebravery to do that, so I
actually took them out of mycloset and I just put my spare
closet at least it on your maincloset anymore.
Third, third step.
Yeah.
It's a step in and I have goneup and down.
I got 20 years on you.
So I've gone up and down so manytimes.
(24:22):
Um, I do believe in myself.
I do a, I guess it's just thatlittle bit of self doubt that is
still talking to me, thatnegative narrative saying, you
know, and I think it's okay tokeep, you know, a sizer two
because you're going to, you'regoing to fluctuate.
It's going to happen, you know,five or 10 pounds.
It's okay.
And especially, you know, youget bloating and all that great
female stuff and not night.
(24:43):
You know what?
No.
Backtrack.
That's not female stuff.
Everyone gets blown.
Everyone gets it.
It happens.
So it's nice to have those,those pants where your, what you
typically would wear doesn't fitand you're like, ah, I need
something else.
But, but the, you know, I get alot of different sizes of those
guys.
Say the higher number.
Yeah.
Get rid of.
Yeah.
Like those size 14, 14, 12th arestill sitting there.
(25:06):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't get rid of them yet.
Cause I'm, I'm going to be a newone.
So yeah, no, no slow swap in.
Love that.
Yeah.
So motivation for us as is keyand last time we talked about
are wasting away group.
We're so thankful to Paula.
Thank you Paula.
Girlfriend of ours that, thatmade sure that that group was up
there and uh, we share, keeps itgoing and she keeps it going.
(25:29):
We share a dirty little secret.
We're trying to make that groupa little bit, um, a little bit
more dynamic.
Um, so anybody looking to beaccountable and you're able to
share your dirty little secretwasting away and just a, it's on
Facebook and you know, we canadd you at any time.
I don't know if the group issecret or not or if it's just a
(25:51):
close, if it's just a close,just a closed group and you can
find it and or you can reach outto or just reach out Shelly
butler, Felicia flow wailing andwe'll make sure that you're
there because having thataccountability and having all of
us girls in that safe spaceplace, cause it really is, it's
a safe place.
Nobody is is bothering you.
If you put on that two pounds orthat five pounds, we are just
(26:15):
high fiving you and saying we'rehere for you.
What do you need from us?
And it's okay.
It happens sometimes.
It's like well you know what,now it's a whole new day
tomorrow.
Oh absolutely.
Pat went away to Mexico and puton five pounds.
I was like, good for you, goodtime.
You know, and you know what, thenext week it was probably
inflammation because the nextweek she took it all off.
You know, she actually won thatweek.
(26:36):
Yeah, she did.
Right.
There's a good way to win.
Go to Mexico for a week, drinkyour face off and then come back
and Ding, Ding, Ding.
Yeah.
So, um, another way Felicia, Ikeep ourselves motivated is
every day we come into work andwe talk about how hot we are
with each other.
Yeah.
And anybody who will listen toanyone who was around.
(26:57):
Yeah.
It's so important.
It's so is, yeah.
That's self love.
And I think sometimes we can'talways, I feel, um, get that
love of ourselves from inside.
Sometimes it has to, um, stemfrom someone else.
Um, you know, constantly tellingyou, no, you're beautiful,
(27:19):
you're hot.
Like girl, check that ass.
Yeah.
It just gets bleeds.
But yeah.
Um, no, I mean it's an, it'sreally important.
Like they'll kept telling meabout my face shrinking.
Right.
Oh my God.
Show me your face.
That's getting smaller andsmaller as it.
Yeah.
Well, when you notice my assgetting smaller than I need a
comment, we'll talk then.
Yeah.
It's, I think it's important to,uh, um, you know, I was being
(27:41):
facetious.
I was being trying to be funny.
Yes, yes, yes.
Um, you know, I think it's soimportant that we uplift.
I think so many women are incompetition with each other and
that's how you mentioned before,we're in no competition.
We are doing each, each other.
It's sort of, um, but what's soimportant for us is to just be,
(28:02):
keep ourselves motivated andjust keep ourselves in a place
yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Of, uh, Vonn beautification.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Can we pause for a moment?
Yes.
I Dunno.
Okay.
Forget it.
We don't need to pause.
My apologies.
My apologies.
He's gonna he can edit this out,right?
Yeah, absolutely.
My fault.
Okay.
I thought I was my surgeoncalling.
I was like, I can't miss again.
Oh my God.
So funny.
(28:33):
Oops.
Sorry.
That's okay.
All right.
So we were talking about, yeah.
Motivation.
Um, and what keeps us motivatedand we keep each other
motivated.
It's okay.
It's okay to reach out to yourfellow coworker, you know, your
best friend and let them knowhow wonderful they look.
(28:54):
[inaudible] let them know howproud you are of them.
Yeah.
Male or female.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I think so many people arein competition with each other.
Like I was just saying, and itscares me a little bit when
people are trying to um, be alittle better than you are.
B and B being a little betterthan him or her.
(29:15):
Yes.
I, I think, I think a healthycompetition is okay.
Like of course, you know, likein our group wasting away, like
we have a winner each week that,you know, when's a little pot of
money cause they lost the mostamount of weight.
Like that's a healthycompetition.
But doing it in spite of, oh,like there's no way I can let
her get ahead of me.
Um, you know, that sort of, Idunno, conniving, that's not
(29:38):
really the word I want to say.
But um, hidden agenda, a hiddenagenda.
You know, I had a, I have hadpeople reach out to me and say,
are you eating?
Are you eating?
Uh, I am definitely eating someeating my way skinny.
I'm eating my waist skinny.
(29:59):
Exactly.
Cause I worked out for a longtime and everybody knows that I
worked out for a long time causeI post it and, and, but yeah, I
didn't lose any weight then.
Right.
But it's like, well, like yousay, you know, yes I'm doing the
workouts but I'm still having abag of trips and I always did.
Yeah.
I never tried to hide.
You know, I'm just eating reallycrappy and that was me.
(30:20):
I ate from the moment I finishedsupper until the moment I went
to bed.
Um, so I don't do that anymore.
I've removed those sugarproducts from my life and I saw,
I don't crave it a, so it'sreally important that everybody
understands that sugar is asaddictive as cocaine or heroin.
Not Crazy.
That is crazy.
Yeah.
Like main line in that stuff,right?
(30:42):
Yeah.
Get off the sugar, man.
It's so bad.
And there's, and you know what Ilearned?
I learned, well, I learned aboutcane sugar.
Yeah.
Right.
That was from Dama downstairs.
But I just figured it was justas bad as processed sugar, but
it's not.
It's not.
But I just discovered palmcoconut sugar.
What?
Okay.
I don't know what that is.
(31:03):
So good.
Oh my God.
You got to go buy some, it wasa, I make these a, a millionaire
burrs.
Oh yes.
You were telling me about themand it calls for this, uh, this
coconut sugar and it is, it'slike, it kind of looks like a
brown sugar, but the smell of itis just unbelievable.
So these natural products thatwere, were, you know, dwelling
(31:25):
into now.
Oh my God.
So good.
And I'll tell you somethingelse.
My husband, when he firststarted using, um, using, when
he first started eating theJames to see that main line
stuff, when he first startedeating those James a scoop
cookies, he was like, Oh God,Yuck.
Oh No.
That was me.
I'm like, how dare you call thisa cookie, right?
(31:47):
Blasphemy.
The cookies that Nikki made thatyou and I love so much that have
no sugar in them whatsoever, alittle bit of Maple Syrup.
He thought they sucked.
Oh, now line.
Now he thinks those are the twoof the best cookies he ever.
So isn't that weird?
Once you actually get your tastebuds back, yes.
All of a sudden these foods,you're actually tasting these,
(32:08):
these raw foods, these realfoods.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but even before I went tolike, you know, natural like raw
foods like those cookies thatNikki makes are sorted.
I delicious.
Love.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Best cookies ever fessed cookieagain.
We have to put a big shout outto Nikki and how spoiled we are
because Dova co has their ownpersonal chef.
(32:31):
That's how important food is tous.
So at Dover software we have aculture set like no other and we
truly believe in culture to thepoint where, um, you know, eve
like in debt to, we are aculture company disguised as a
timesheet company.
That's product that we sell.
We Sell Dova Co time sheet andit's great it costing billing,
(32:54):
you know, we can, we can sell itto any industry, uh, because it
really fits in.
If you have a project that needsto be billed, we are the
software for you.
Um, but I think what was soimportant to us and what people
were recognizing us for is ourcompany culture.
And Yeah, we've got a productcoming out that is going to help
others build their companyculture because what was
(33:17):
happening to us as people werereaching out saying, well, where
do you begin?
And we kept saying by answeringthe telephone with a purpose and
cutting carrots, serving thecarrots, but nobody got that
right.
They didn't get what that meant.
And it's such a, uh, but that'sreally where we started.
That really is.
Yeah.
That's really where we startedforeign concept.
(33:37):
But it's really not in a waylike, you know, yeah, yeah.
Feed your people good.
Yeah.
And answer the phone for yourcustomer.
So one thing that we did, andwhen we say answer the phone
with a purpose, uh, we wouldanswer the phone and we would
verify the records.
How can we get your, you know,as a, is that still the primary
contact and is this the correctemail address?
(33:59):
We weren't serving the customerthat was for us, for us.
Yeah.
So you know, don't you deal withthat aside from the phone, you
don't deal with that when thecustomer is calling in for tech
problem word, you know Rogersand Telus and all you people
stop that.
Right.
Because whenever you have todial that toll free number for a
support, do you, it just haslike a feeling of dread.
(34:22):
Oh, you're like hours of yourlife that you're never going to
get back.
Right.
And You wonder if you're evengoing to get an answer.
You do.
You're really, nowadays we areso concerned, um, about that
time that we spend that weactually will deflect that call.
Right.
And it'd be like, oh, did youmake that call yet to, to make
that call?
You're like, no, I know that Iwill never get those hours back.
(34:46):
And it's not moments anymore.
It's like, you know, it's goingto be ours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's awful.
It is awful.
They have to fix that.
Yes, they do.
So going back to what motivatesus is each other.
Each other.
Yeah.
Find your, find your partner,find your person who understands
you.
Find somebody that loves youunconditionally.
(35:07):
Yeah.
Suntans to be your significantother.
I was just going to saysometimes it's not your spouse
know, like, like you're like mysoulmate.
Oh, you are my soulmate shower.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well Felicia always says we'repartners.
Like we're going to packagedeals.
Yeah.
We're going together wherever wego from here on till till the
end of that time.
Yeah.
Till we pluck each other'sfacial hair.
(35:30):
We know who's, who's plugging mychin hair.
That's right.
Do you find them yet?
Did you find them yet?
Right down that to let us knowthat too.
So we want to know your dailyhabits that we want to know your
soul partner and if you foundone, because if you haven't
found one were fabulousmatchmakers, we are, we could
maybe help you out with that andwe can, we can do our best for
sure.
(35:50):
So I wanna end on, um, how proudwe are of ourselves.
Yes.
So proud.
And it's so important.
Do not diminish youraccomplishments.
Shout them out in the rooftops.
Absolutely.
Look what I did.
And that's, you know, reallythat's part of our daily habits
as well is because we do talk toeach other every morning.
(36:13):
We tell each other how fabulouswe are.
Um, and uh, you know, how greator has this right we do.
Um, and even right down to likemy feet, I was talking about my
feet lab, I'm like, oh, I've gotlike big, cutest fee.
Yeah.
Ever.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So I think it's so important tolove yourself and find a way to
(36:33):
love yourself.
Start with one part.
So I'm going to remind you, Ibelieve that I said this in the
last podcast.
Look in the mirror while you'rebrushing your teeth, you're
going to take that two minuteswhile you're brushing your
teeth.
You really shouldn't be spendingtwo minutes and at least, yeah.
And look at yourself in thatmirror with soft eyes.
You're always looking atyourself, you know, or the
(36:55):
pimple or your eyebrows or, orwhatever it is that you think is
imperfection.
Go past that.
And I want you to look atyourself with soft eyes.
And I want you to say in themirror that you love you.
I look in the mirror everymorning and I say, I love you.
It was so difficult at first.
I've given this over to a lot ofmy friends.
(37:16):
They think that I'm crazy.
Within a month they come backand say, wow, that really
worked.
Because we judge ourselves soharshly.
We do.
I feel like the more of us thatcan love ourselves, the more of
you can love yourself.
(37:37):
Uh, we, uh, well I had a commentthe other day about that going,
man, like, you're so confident.
I'm like, I don't know if it'sconfidence, more of just self
love.
I just like, I don't look atmyself and tell me self that
it's telling myself, don't tellme self that 11 itself, it's the
maritime maritime coming out.
No, but I, I don't look atmyself and say, I love you, but
(37:58):
I do walk by and go, girl, youlook in fun.
And I love that.
I love that you're the one whoactually taught me that, um,
that I could be that and I coulddo that.
And, and I so appreciate you forthat.
And I'm so grateful.
Um, you know, uh, another mentorof mine is James Rouse, and I
(38:19):
absolutely love that man.
And he posted the other day,we're so busy being humans doing
that.
We forgot to be human beings.
Oh, I love that.
Oh my God.
I just got like, because he'sbrilliant.
Yeah.
He's absolutely brilliant.
(38:39):
Yeah.
And I think that it's, it's timethat we understand, uh, Monkton
especially, um, that your heartneeds to come first.
Yeah.
So many people think thatintelligence is the do all and
be all.
If you're smart, you will makeit, you can learn anything.
(38:59):
You can be taught and kneeskill.
Absolutely.
But you cannot learnpersonality.
You can't learn love.
You can't, these are not thingstaught from a book that are
taught in universities or inschool.
It's, it's, uh, something thatyou need to do.
That's right.
Yeah.
Have Heart.
(39:19):
But don't be afraid to show yourheart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Be Vulnerable a little bit.
Yeah.
Love that.
And we're going to end therebecause we are now 40 minutes in
or a little, we're a little overour half an hour goal, but still
not bad.
Oh, I think we did.
We covered a lot today.
Did Awesome.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
We love you so much.
Get your workout in.
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