EPISODE 19: Screaming for Danny Rolling (part 2)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Jesse.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello Lindsay, hey Lindsay, hey, hey, hey Lindsay,
hey Lindsay, hey Lindsay.
Get your ass back in here inthe house, lindsay.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's my bestie, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
See that girl over there chugging two white claws
in one cup.
That's Lindsay.
Yeah, that's my bestie, Lindsay.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
She's my bestie.
She goes by Linz.
We call her Linz-y sometimesfor short.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
She's unique.
Okay, so that is a little bitfrom one of my favorite
TikTokers.
His handle isDanteElizabethJames.
Follow him.
He literally will DanteElizabeth James.
Follow him.
He literally will make your day.
It's awesome.
I got Jesse on him now too.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I don't know, I just get a kick out of it.
It doesn't make any sense, butit makes all the sense I love it
.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So what are you drinking today?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I went to Howl Patters which did not, did not
distill until recently.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Right, they are a local brewery, yeah, and they've
only done ale and shit likethat, yeah now they're our local
brewer and distiller.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
How patters used to be the name of the chief that
was here in lake city.
How patters, uh chief, howpatter, which was chief.
They also called him chiefalligator and the town of lake
city used to be called alligator.
So some history.
But um, yeah, they starteddistilling.
They have the best rum I'veever had in my life.
They also called him ChiefAlligator and the town of Lake
City used to be called Alligator.
So some history.
But yeah, they starteddistilling.
They have the best rum I'veever had in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's so good what you let me taste last night.
I was instantly transported tothe beach to an island.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
How patters?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
And it was so good.
You had it with some pineappleFanta.
What'd you have with it today?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
The mango monster.
Okay, that's so good too.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Fuck, you're having a monster on top of the Celsius.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
He's about to start doing backflips y'all, I'm
geeking.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's probably why I was like hey, lansy, but anyhow
, what are you drinking overthere?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I have a double.
It's Actually not a White Claw.
I have a double Vista Bay fromAldi Aldi's special seltzer
Vista.
Bay, seltzer, seltzer, seltzer.
I got a double Black Cherry.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Bam-blam, yes, bam-blam, and that's good too.
The Vista Bay is good.
I've tried it, love it.
The pineapple and the lime arethe tits, so powders and if you
shop at aldi, don't sleep ontheir seltzers.
If you drink seltzers, likethis debate yes yes, your girl
can't handle a lot of sugar so Igotta drink the seltzer yes,

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yes, yes, yes and two more yesesand you want to cue that intro
I might, I might.
But first I wanted to say,while we were mic checking, we
love that 50th anniversary ofSNL.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
We watched the concert and the three hour
special or two and a half hourspecial.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
It was so good.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Sorry, that was our refrigerator.
Y'all it was so good.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
And I want to watch it all again.
Yes, that was our mic check.
Yes, by the way.
So yeah, happy fucking Friday.
Yes, that was our mic check.
Yes, by the way.
So yeah, happy fucking.
Friday.
It's going to be a greatweekend.
I'm fitting a bump this youready.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Bump, bump.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Here we go it makes me want a clean house or
something.
I don't want to do shit rightnow but record this podcast.
It's that time of the month andI am dead.
I'm dead inside, a little biton the outside, but that's just.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
It happens.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Having horrible, horrible lady time is a side
effect of having your tubes tied.
And I also have PCOS.
Be supportive.
I try to be.
I think yes, and I'm justsitting here like cramps go away
, fuck these cramps Her crampsare named Lindsay too.
My cramps have cramps, hey,lindsay.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Quit cramping me, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
My uterus is at war with itself.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
We're going to get her all tanked up over here.
She'll be like I don't care, Iknow.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Let's watch more snl.
Yeah, I had thought abouttaking a uh garden gummy, but
last time I did that it was onone of our west memphis three
parts and I don't even rememberrecording it she was like it
sounded great well.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
She was like there's no way this is any good.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I was like it's good I'm so happy that it was because
, I blacked out while I wasawake.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Good good, good.
See, I can say that way fasterthan good good, good.
I can say that really goodinstead of cool cool, cool, good
, good, good Good.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Alright, so do you want to know what we're drinking
about today?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, we're drinking about part two of something that
we started last week and Ialready knew.
I knew, but I don't know whatyou're fixing to drop on me, I
don't know what you're fixing todrop.
I'm so sorry.
We rode around Gainesvilleearlier and we took a couple
pictures and she's like you seethat Krispy Kreme over there.
I'm going to talk about thatand I was like fuck, lancey,
really.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Why are you telling me this right now?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I wanted some Krispy Kreme.
We should have got us a clutchof Krispy Kreme donuts.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
They didn't have the hot sign wasn't on.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, but if I can, stop by and get a clutch of
donuts.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, Krispy Kreme is the tits.
Nobody can top them.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
You can call it a clutch whenever you have it
under your arm and you'reholding that shit like you're a
kill somebody over a clutch ofcrispy cream seriously they'll
be talking about us I'll knowwhat y'all do, but it's pure
magic.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
What was his?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
motive yeah, he's trying to take my clutch of
crispy creams so I dressed uplike rambo.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Listen, I would defend you some crispy creams.
This drink is badass, lindsey Ibet because, like I said, I
tasted what you had going onlast night and it was amazing so
danny rolling, part two rightdanny rolling, part two rolling,
rolling, rolling, rolling.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
What keep rolling, rolling, rolling rolling.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Okay, that's horrible he's.
He's a horrible person.
We don't know y'all be lovingthis shit Right here.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Go ahead, girl Fly.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
So last week we talked about how Danny Rowling
had had a horrific childhood.
His father hated him from birthand he went on to become a
peeping Tom, a drifter, asinger-songwriter, but not a
successful one, a robber, arapist and a murderer.
Songwriter, but not asuccessful one, a robber, a
rapist and a murderer.
But we did not conclude withall the murders he would commit,

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and he would not even besuspected of the murders of the
Grissom family that heslaughtered for some time.
That murder happened inShreveport, louisiana, and now
he has made his way toGainesville, florida.
At the start of the 1990-91school year, at the University
of Florida, home of the GatorsGo, gators, I was about to say

(07:10):
you can say it, I'm not, I'm anold fan, go.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Gators.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
But we mentioned Lake City a lot because the Gators
college was here at one time,and we live here, yeah, but I
have been to several Gator gameswith you when you were getting
free tickets and the collegefootball experience is amazing,
the tits.
Except for that one time whenyou got the sunshine seats.
Don't ever get the sunshineseats.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Unless you just have to go.
You're that much of a fan.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Well, okay, don't get the sunshine seats at the first
game, which is always in Augustat three o'clock in the
afternoon.
What the fuck.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Sweltering.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I have no idea why they even do that to them, boys
and girls and the band.
Well, they're tough, thefootball players, the
cheerleaders I mean, theypractice in that shit, so I mean
it's understandable, but stillit's tough in the sun seats.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
But if you're a true diehard fan, I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
you know I get it so students were getting settled in
for the new square and dannyhad set up camp in some woods
near the archer road exits,which is an exit that jesse and
I frequent often yeah, I knowexactly where that is yeah,
scott or sam's club most of thegood restaurants, the guitar
center, except for the downtownrestaurant sort of the tits, it

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also has the guitar the guitarcenter and it also has the
guitar center yesyes, where I go he had
pre-recorded a tape confessinghis upcoming crimes and an
apology to his family for it.
But guess where he went beforedeciding on gainesville?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
you're fixing to tell me something cool, tell me,
tell me.
I don't know about being cool,but he went to deciding on
Gainesville.
You're fixing to tell mesomething cool?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Tell me, tell me I don't know about being cool, but
he went to Tallahassee first,tallahatchie, home of the
Knowles and where Ted Bundy hadpreviously had a brief reign of
terror.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
In Tallahassee, wow yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
See, Danny had a fascination with Bundy and kind
of wanted to follow in hisfootsteps and even bought a new
K-Bar knife while he was there.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
All shiny and new.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Now, for reasons unknown, he instead took his
demonic ass to Gainesville.
I wrote this before I actuallydeep dived a little bit more.
It was actually because I guessGemini from the movie that we
did not finish last week, themovie the Exorcist, part 3.
Oh, the killer was Gemini andhe was possessing people in this

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movie.
We did not finish it.
I couldn't get into it and I'veheard it's really good, but we
just we couldn't get into it.
Just fell asleep and I was likescrolling through TikTok and I
saw some clips from the SNLconcert and I was like scrolling
through TikTok and I saw someclips from the SNL concert.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
And I was like wake up.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
We're watching this right now.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Grab your Rushford on a little makeup.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
See, now I'm more nostalgic when it comes to
Exorcist.
I don't want to fuck with thefirst one.
Any sequels.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
But I've heard that it's good but we just couldn't
get with it.
We couldn't get with it, like.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Exorcist Emily Rose and all the exorcists, anything
exorcist.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, we even went and saw the new one over the
summer.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't care about none of them, I mean even if
they're the tits, I don't care,I just want that and that all
alone, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, we love the OG.
We watch it twice a yearprobably.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Is that selfish of me ?
No, I mean, I just can't helpit.
I just can't help it.
I just want that one and thatone alone.
That's all I want in my head.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, like I said, we couldn't get into it.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So he had watched the movie and became fascinated of
the Gemini killer who possessedpeople, as he himself was a
Gemini.
So he would go on to say thatGemini took over.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
So he had that Gemini syndrome?
Yeah, something like that.
Is that a?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
band yes, okay, when he got to.
Gainesville, he went to Walmartdown the Walmart murder aisle.
No, actually he bought a tentbut stole a screwdriver, duct
tape and two pairs of athleticgloves.
After his campsite was complete, he started stalking students
at the university.
Oh, fuck gloves.
After his campsite was complete, he started stalking students
at the university.
On August 23rd he climbed up asecond-story apartment and took

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off all of his clothes but kepton a fanny pack.
God, that was nice, did you?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
think that nobody could see him if he was naked?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
No, well, I guess.
So Jim and I made him invisible.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm incognito.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
But he kept on his fanny pack which contained all
of his supplies.
He intended to commit a murderwhile in his birthday suit, but
a drunken student happened towalk by and point him out and he
quickly left the scene.
Whoa.
So I want to tell you this I'msorry.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I can see him doing the whoa.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
They're probably pointing at his oh my God,
there's a Nekitude in a fannypack, bro.
Is that your wang, bro God?
What the fuck, bro?
Get down, bro man.
I do want to tell you before Icontinue, because it's about to
get nasty, it's about to gethorrible.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Get your laughs out now, but out now Well.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I wanted more Rambo.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I wanted more Rambo.
We're done with Rambo, rambo'sdone, are you fucking?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
kidding me.
Right now it's Jim and I now.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You're fucking kidding me, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh, and also I did want to tell you this because I
listened to like 15 differentpodcasts on this, but of course,
I had to listen to my favorites.
Last podcast, on the left,Henry said that you should have
a cup or a what is it?
A goblet?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
A goblet.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
What is it that you call that you put your whiskey
in?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I mean, I don't know A fucking cup.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
A tumbler?
Is it a tumbler?
I don't know, that's what Ihave here A tumbler full of Okay
Well, he said that you shouldhave a glass of neat whiskey for
this one.
Before you hear what I'm aboutto tell you, so just straight up
, good ass whiskey yeah, butyou're drinking rum, so I forgot
to tell you that ahead of timeyou told me this was a
three-shotter for this one.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, you're gonna need three shots for this, but I
mean I got, I got half and halfover here, so I'll be all right
.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
There's about 12 all right, are you ready?
Strap in, buckle up.
Yeah, pull down your harness,like you're on a roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Oh click, click, click, click, click, click,
click.
Hold up, mine didn't click.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh, it didn't click that third time, kevin.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Hart said he went to Asia and rode a roller coaster
and he's like it don't clickMine, don't click Mine ain't
click Anyhow, anyhow.
So okay, I'm ready for thisroller coaster.
Pissed that he's not fuckingRambo right now.
I'm fucking pissed, lindsay,I'm fucking pissed Now he's
birthday suit, Gemini.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Well, just for that night.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
You fucker man.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
He tried.
It didn't work out, so Okay.
The next day, on August 24th1990, danny, dressed in all
black, wearing a ski mask andgloves, and goes to the
apartment of Sonia Larson andChristina Powell.

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He had been stalking these poorgirls for a few days.
At 3 am when they were sleeping, he pried open the door with a
screwdriver and Christina Powellwas asleep on the couch.
He watched her sleep for sometime, then went upstairs and
watched Sonia Larson sleep aswell.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Just creep bagging.
Goodness gracious.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
He then stabbed Sonia in her collarbone and taped her
mouth shut, because she did, ofcourse, immediately wake up in
pain and scared as fuck.
Yeah, and he didn't want her towake Christina up.
Then he stabbed her in thechest and arms as she was
fighting back, but she quicklypassed away.
Then he makes his way down toChristina, who was still

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sleeping.
He taped her mouth shut and herhands behind her back.
He then repeatedly raped her.
He turned her over on herstomach and stabbed her in the
back over and over again, and hewas stabbing her as deep as the
knife would go.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Nine inches.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
And I've seen the pictures.
Now You've showed me some and Ialso looked up some.
Yeah, holy fuck, and the imageof that has just been in my
brain continuously.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
This is horrific.
Yeah, I'm shocked.
Right now I'm letting you roll,though.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So, after she passed, he then cut off her breasts and
wrapped them in plastic.
He used a bottle of dish soapto clean all the evidence and
pose their bodies in horrificmanners oh my God.
And posed their bodies inhorrific manners, oh my God.
He posed Christina on theliving room floor face up, so
that the breast removal would bethe first thing to be seen.

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What the fuck Lindsay.
He then posed Sonia on her bed,laying back, with her legs bent
at the knees so that her feethung down to the floor.
He had done all of this whileplaying the song Faith by George
Michael on repeats.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
What why are you ruining it?
Why are you ruining it?
Why are you ruining it?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
There will be so many songs ruined from here forward.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I'm ruined.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Just remember that it's going to be a lot of songs
ruined.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, I'm going to Limp Bizkit on that one.
What the fuck.
So he's doing all this shitnaked I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I just told you he only did that the one night.
He was dressed in all black andwore a ski mask and gloves, but
like what the fuck, dude,You're cutting?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
What Ugh Dude?
This is sick Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
He then took a nap in Christina's bed, took a shower
in their fucking shower and leftat dawn singing a hymn to
himself and returned to camp.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
A hymn.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
A gospel hymn.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I guess that made it all better.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, the only noise that the neighbors say that they
heard was loud banging and thesong playing.
That's it.
If I could touch your body,what?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
You gotta have faith.
The very next day you want totake another.
You want to take a sip.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I'm going to God Slow down.
No, I decided to put crushedice in this one, and it's coming
through the straw what thethere's going to be more that,
like I mean yes, oh, man hang ony'all.
What did I?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
tell you, I gave you a hint the other night.
I should have pre-gamed.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Why didn't you tell me to pre-game dude?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I told you the other night that this will be some of
the graphic, most graphicmurders that we will cover
period dude, I should havepre-gamed.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
This is not right.
This is not well, of course, Imean, but I'm not.
I'm nowhere near done, so strapin I mean that's fucking
horrific, but the georgemichaels really got me.
I know that this dude's gotmore than that.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
All right.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
You ready for me to keep going?
Yeah, I guess.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean goodness, lindsay the very next day, on
August 25th, the very next day,he would set out on Krista Hoyt.
You saw the names.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
you saw the name, so you should already know, we went
to the little monument thingtoday.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, he used the screwdriver to open her sliding
glass door and waited for her toget home by hiding behind her
bookshelf.
When she got home around 10 pm,he attacked her with his fists,
duct, taped her mouth shut andher hands behind her back, and
proceeded to rape her for overan hour, while stabbing her

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repeatedly during the rape.
What he then turned her on herstomach and stabbed her in the
back, then turned her back over,stabbed her in the stomach and
sliced upward.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Really.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
He then cut off her nipples and placed them on top
of her exposed intestines, thencut off her breasts and wrapped
them in a towel.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I'm over here looking at my wife right now, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I know.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
You set me up for some shit like this I warned you
, lindsay, I warned you.
Lindsay, you agreed to do thiswith me this is fucking the
worst thing I've ever heard inmy life so far.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
But do you know, we're going to get off track for
just a second.
The number one reason why womenlisten to a lot of true crime
and are obsessed with itawareness, so that we do not get
ourselves in situations likethis.
Now, it's not like these girlsgot themselves in a situation.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
They didn't get them into nothing, they're just
hanging out at home.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
And going to school.
These are college girls, right,right.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
If I was in college now like okay, say, knowing
about this, I would have aroommate, a ring camera, alarms,
all of that Because I know whathappened to these girls and
there is a boy too later on it.
Because I know what happened tothese girls and there is a boy
too Later on it's awareness howlong I mean I now.
I didn't use to.
I used to leave our doorsunlocked while I would get in

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the shower and get ready forwork.
Now the front door is locked,the back door is locked, the
garage door is shut and thegarage door is locked.
My bedroom door is locked and Iwill not let Silas leave this
house door is locked and I willnot let silas leave this house,
even to go to his friend's housewhere we know his family, if I
am in the shop.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
You are right in this house.
Yeah, so it's just justexisting, and it also lets you
know it also lets you know.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like number one, I always say there is no good old
days.
This was 1990 and a lot ofpeople think that was a good old
day In your little small world,in your family it might have
been, but somebody else down theroad was grieving the death of
their child.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Some shit like this happened.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
The horrific murder of their child and they will
never be the same.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
And this is just one of many, though.
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
One of many.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Very many.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
A lot of many Like I said, I already have enough
cases for the next three yearsand I'm adding every day.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I'm supposed to get callous to this shit I'm
supposed to be, like I'm goingto just make some jokes over
here.
You'll never get completelycallous, let me just get over
here and just chuckle, chuckle,ha ha about some shit.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Lins, okay there will be some points where you can
breathe, but it's not right nowI breathe, but it's not right
now.
I can't go Now at this point.
He had supposedly left, butcame back because he had
forgotten his wallet and decidedto do more.
To complete his horrific,absolutely horrific scene, he

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cut off Krista's head and thenpositioned her body on the edge
of the bed, spreading her legswide apart, her arms drooped to
the side and her intestinesspilled out.

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What the fuck?
To complete this brutal scene,he positioned a mirror, to make
sure that that was the firstthing for whoever would discover
this body.
So what the fuck?
Man?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
The first thing for them to see this would actually
be.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
This is this, krista Hoyt?
That one would be the worstcrime scene in Florida history?

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I guarantee it.
I mean there's worse than thatever.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm not sure, because I haven't went on to study more
, but I mean at that point in1990, that was the worst crime
scene.
I can't believe that.
Krista was a student at SantaFe and worked for the Alachua
County Sheriff's Department, andwhen she didn't show up to work
because she was punctual, likeshe was studying to become a cop

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herself.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
An officer did discover her body.
Now it is said that he may haveknown this about her schedule
and because his father was a cop.
Remember.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Baby Dumplin'.
He wanted to make sure thateverything would fuck with
whoever discovered these bodies,that it would fuck them up for
life so this is his artwork.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Like he's just like this is what?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
yeah, I mean, he's taking the time to do it, so
he's wanting this to be a shockand all, and he does say that
later on.
So, goodness, goodness, I readone book.
There's two books out therethat I know of, one I could not
get a hold of on Audible, andthen another one, and it's just,
it's horrible.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
This is the worst thing I've ever heard in my life
, the most gruesome shit and thething about it right now.
You've seen some of this shit,haven't you?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
you've seen some of this shit, hadn't you?
When you're google researching,and because?
And not everything you want tofind is going to be on that
first page, so you've got to goto images links and videos, all
the all the, and sometimes yousee shit that you don't want to
see, I don't want to hear this,but I'm here for it, god, and
walked away with the hem againprobably Most likely Circle
being broken oh my.

(23:49):
God.
So Gainesville police now knewthat they had a serial killer on
their hands.
Terror had quickly spreadthrough town.
Obviously, classes weretemporarily suspended and some
parents withdrew their childrenforever.
Wow, parents that couldn't geta hold of their kids were tying
up all phone lines, all thephone lines for well checks and,

(24:12):
like I said, and for for you,um, people who are listening
that may have been born in alater time than this case
happened.
This was before cell phones,yeah, and this is a massive
university, massive.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Most of the students there have scooters that they
will so that they can get fromclass to class on time because
it's so massive yeah yeah, thentoo they had the little mopeds
back then.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I remember seeing them, yeah so theories for who
the killer was was alreadyspreading as well.
Some thought it was a cop, somethought it was a cop, some
thought it was a student andsome thought it was a pizza
delivery man.
This was before DoorDash andUber Eats, so pizza delivery was
your main food delivery source.
Right, it was pizza.
Now, I'm sure there was a fewlocal little shops that might

(25:00):
deliver you a Cuban sandwich,but pizza was it.
So, unfortunately, this wouldnot stop Danny.
I'm sure he wasn't watching thenews.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I'm sure the terror and the hysteria, the whole
fucking town.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
This is in two days.
So he started on the 24th WithChristina Powell and Sonia
Larson, he went to Krista Hoytand now, on the very next day,
on the 26th, danny was peepingon Tracy Paul's in Gatorwood
Apartments.
What he didn't know was thatshe had a roommate named Manny
Taboada.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Lindsay, that's literally right across from
where we was at earlier.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
That's literally right there.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
We were there.
We've been there many times.
We probably rode by many, manya murder scene.
I mean it's just weird to thinkabout.
We're so close.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Now Tracy and Manny had been friends since high
school.
Their families knew each otherand Manny and Tracy decided to
be roommates.
They were not dating, they werejust roommates.
They decided to be roommates soTracy could have protection
going to this massive university.
I believe they were from Miami,around that area.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Manny had played football and was very tall and
weighed about 200 pounds.
Danny didn't see Manny when hewas peeping because Manny was
working his shift at Bennigan's.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, so his schedule was conflicted again, so he
never did notice there wasanybody else Right?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
But he did notice before he went into the house.
He did.
He waited until they were bothasleep.
Now that he's seen cause, hewas determined to kill the
female.
He waited until they were bothasleep and broke in around 3 am.
He shimmied the door open withthe screwdriver and went to take
Manny out first.
He stabbed him in the chest andtore it open and Manny still

(27:00):
fought back.
Danny was stabbing wildly nowand Manny did manage to restrain
him for a moment, but Manny waslosing a lot of blood yeah,
he's taking on a football playerright yeah but Danny still
overpowered him and stabbed himin the chest, cutting upward,
and this one killed him,goodness gracious.

(27:22):
He would have a total of 30 stabwounds wow so.
M.
So Manny fought.
Manny fought hard.
Tracy had woken up by thispoint, because he couldn't get
Manny's mouth shut.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Right At this point like some chaos, some shit going
down.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Now she saw the attack and ran into the bathroom
and locked the door, but Dannykicked the door down and taped
her mouth shut.
But and I forgot to write thisand before he did, she actually
looked at him, said you're himaren't you?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
yeah, I just got chills I know.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I know my tears welled up, just chills could you
imagine this shit?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
no, I don't ever want to I mean, they're just,
they're an apartment, baby still.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
But we're letting fly , we're letting them go out into
the world, and then thishappens.
This was the beginning of theschool year.
Classes had just started.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Okay, I'm taking a sip.
God.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
This ain't strong enough.
I mean, it is, but it ain'tthis ain't strong enough.
I'll go with you.
I'm going with you.
Okay, lindsay, I'm taking afucking drink.
Okay, lindsay, lindsay, Goahead, shit.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
He taped her mouth shut and her arms behind her
back.
He then raped her and stabbedher and dragged her body out to
pose, but she was still alive.
He then wiped the blood off ofher face and raped her again
until she bled out from herwounds, and then he would say
that this is when Gemini lefthim and his mission or

(28:57):
assignment or whatever demonicexcuse he had, was complete.
He then jumped into I think itwas a nearby complex pool, a
nearby apartment complex Intotheir pool to wash off the blood
Buried, the knife and thegloves next to an old chicken
coop.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, gatorwood is a big, complex community really.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, I can see that those are the ones.
It has the wood and the littleV-type patterns on the side.
It's been there forever.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yep, that's been there forever.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yep, that's the spot, though, mm-hmm, I'm so fucking,
you know it's crazy to me justthinking how fearful all these.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like Gainesville stopped for a while, you know, I
mean it had to.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah.
I mean because the terror Imean imagine being that person's
neighbor yeah which is alsoprobably another student yeah,
which is literally anotherhundred people, would be your
neighbor right, right.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
So yeah, because you've got probably one on both
sides of you.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, most likely yeah, up and down.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I think it's three stories too, so it's like, yeah,
yeah because it's it's studenthouse, it's off-campus student
housing's like yeah, yeah, causeit's it's student house, it's
off campus student housing.
So he went and took a nap athis campsite, woke up and this
motherfucker robbed a bank atgunpoint on the 27th.
Five murders.
He's trying to gather up somemoney and then dip out.

(30:23):
So when he gets, when he's atthe bank, he's got.
You know he's telling thetellers that there better not be
any uh dye packs right in thebag.
But a witness later on saidthat they saw that they saw a
pink dye explode in his facewhen he opened the bag oh good,
you little bastard.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
That's the sickest fucker I've ever heard in my
life right now I know you'regonna pull up some chronic,
crazier shit than this there.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
There's going to be some crazy shit later on, but so
far, yes, this is the worstthat you've heard.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
You've got to tell me the pregame next time.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
The three boys that were murdered in West Memphis
that Damien, jesse and Jason gotaccused of.
That was fucking brutal murder.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
But, like I said, it got lost.
The impact of their murder gotlost, just the the impact of
their murder got lost in thetrial well, and what you talked
about was still horrific, rightnothing no, it's not like this
decapitation posing posing andraping yeah and the george
michael has me fucked up rightnow, lindsey I'm sorry, the

(31:22):
fucking george michael lindsey.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I just don't have faith right now no, I just don't
have faith right now?
No, I just don't have faith.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
The murders are over.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You can breathe a little bit.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I can just ride the wave here.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
But God.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Do you need a breath?
Do you need a breath?
Do you need a breather?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, I'm just.
I'm verklempt over here, I'mverklempt.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Wasn't that great.
I mean talk amongst yourselves.
Mike Myers came back.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yes, mike Myers came back with Amy Poehler and Maya
Rudolph and they did the sweaterweather Talk amongst yourselves
.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm very verklempt, I'm verklempt, hold on.
How do I look when I say that,am I good, am I okay?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's DNA.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I this dna on my drink dna I know I love all of
them oh my god, when he said butit's, it's sweater weather and
I almost passed the fuck out.
Yeah, I almost passed the fuckout right.
Then I was like let us know.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Uh, of course, all we love all the feedback, but god,
let us let us know if youwatched the snl 50 and what you
thought about it.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And then this too, of course, god fans, we are
ridiculous about it, redonkulousdo?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
we danced in the kitchen watching the songs play
the Lady Gagas, and everybodywas just there.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
When Sandler did his tribute.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
I was teary-eyed we're crying.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, and it was funny, thank you for letting me
break right here.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Thank you, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Michelle Stambaugh, I don't know what the hell For
letting me break when you causeme Lindsay, michelle, it's
serious.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Thank you for letting me Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
But my name is Lindsay Nicole Lindsay.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I had to let us take a second here, but we're good,
we're golden now as far as Idon't have to tell you about any
more murders but, goodnessgracious, we're done with
killing yes okay.
Well, I'll keep on flying,though, because I'm sure there's
some shit.
Yeah, we got some more, yeah wegot a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
So then he made friends with another drifter
named Tony Danzy, not Danza.
Danza not Danza.
Danza, Not Danza.
Hold me closer.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Tony Danza.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Tiny dancing.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Tiny dancing.
I'm going to put him on my hip.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Tony Danza.
Yes.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
You know what, Lindsay and I love everybody in
all sizes I got a dude at workthat I'm going to put on my hip
and take a picture.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm going to have him come over here.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
See when we rewatch.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
He's so cool.
He's fucking cool.
He's not like.
He's about maybe two or threeinches shorter than you, Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
So he's cool.
He's not Dinkle's size, though,no no, no, dude's awesome.
He's really cool so when werewatch Game of Thrones every
year, I always say come on,Dinkles, Let me put you on my
hip, Let me burp you.
I love him so much and I am not.
Do not cancel me.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I love little people.
We love everybody fromeverywhere.
We don't care, we love littlepeople, I don't care if you're
shot, but he's just so adorableand we ain't trying to call him
out on anything that I want tohug him and I want to put him.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Nothing wrong with that.
To me, no, no.
So he bragged to tony danzyabout the bank job when cops
pulled up on the two, danny tookoff running and mr danzy
snitched him right, the fuck outget him danzy, thank you
danny's campsite contained theski mask screwdriver and the
tape recording thank you, danzymother.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Well, sorry, but police did not make the
connection.
Oh, they didn't.
And the tape recording.
Thank you, danzy Mother, sir,oh sorry.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
But police did not make the connection.
Oh, they didn't even listen tothe tapes, the tapes that had
his full confession on what hewas going to do.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
So Danzing's over there and he's all like tell the
children not to walk my way.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Everything just went into an evidence locker.
What, yeah, tell the childrennot to hear my words.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yes, what they mean, what they said.
Dan Z Sorry.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
So Gainesville and surrounding areas were of course
, at absolute panic state, andmost students would not sleep
alone.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
The whole fucking town's flipped up right now.
Yeah, Lake City would be done.
We're all leaving the.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
We were alive during this?
I don't, and my dad was an avidnews watcher and I had no idea
about everybody everybody Italked to about this was like
how in the fuck?
Don't you know, jesse and Ididn't know about this.
We didn't know.
No well, I've known about itfor about two years.
My best you're my bestie wasflipping me some shit over this
I know she was like are youkidding me?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
you don't know about this shit.
And then like I'm calling inthat area yeah, and one of my
buddies.
He was supposed to be on herewith us but he's he.
He got tied up, he couldn'tmake it tonight.
But, um, he's like studyingunderneath of one of the main
prosecutors for this whole thingand he had a lot of yeah, let's
get to that we'll bring allthat.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
We have a whole, not other story, before we get Danny
.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
It was just not known to us.
I guess we were sheltered.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
We were, yeah, so they were sleeping in large
groups and taking shifts forsleeping, and the media, of
course, was in a frenzy.
And can you guess what thistheory led to Satanic panic?
What this theory led to satanicpanic?
Oh, here we go, and so we'reblaming the satanic panic and
the exorcist part three thosewere both.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Oh, that was a new film in 90.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, I blame this on um old dumplings myself, so
yeah, so tip lines tip lineswere being flooded with women
blaming their boyfriends orspouses, and and this actually
happens a lot.
So, men, be nice to yourpartners, okay, because when a
tip line comes up about a murder, they call in.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, this happens a lot.
Well, my husband's been beatingthe shit out of me and choking
me and doing this and that so hecould have a whole separate
life.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yep.
Also, a lot of tips wereblaming this weird kid who had
lived near Tracy EdwardHumphreys.
He, edward Humphreys, had beenkicked out of the nearby
apartments for acting crazy.
It was found out later on thathe was an unmedicated bipolar
one patient.
Right, the difference betweenbipolar one and two, according

(37:23):
to Google, is that bipolar onepatients are full manic and have
delusions, and their episodeslast longer, versus bipolar two
have milder short-term manicepisodes and longer depression
episodes.
Edward was huge and had Jokertype scars around his mouth.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Wow, so much self-incrimination.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, I'm not done.
So he would tell people that hewanted to join the military so
that he could kill withoutconsequence.
And this was around the time ofDesert Storm, so war was
dominant.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
He would tell people that Satan was after him and he
would wear special gloves and asash to repel the dark Lord.
There were witnesses at a surfshop that said Edward threatened
to cut out the hearts ofeveryone in the store and he was
very troubled, to say the least.
And he was also found outsideof an air force base running

(38:45):
around and chewing on a beer can.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
What the fuck he's shot out.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, he's unmedicated, he's unmedicated.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
He needs to have some eyes on him anyhow.
I mean just because, Like Isaid, he was very strange.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
He said a lot of concerning shit to people and he
actually asked a pre-medstudent who worked at Krispy
Kreme if she would take bodyparts home and skin to play with
it.
What?
And on the night of SoniaLarson and Christina Powell's
murders, he was seen huffing gas.
He tried to trade baseball capsfor food at a Roy Rogers

(39:21):
restaurant.
Lindsay yes.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Is that a little toodaloo action going on over
there?
I think so A little toodalooyeah.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
It was probably a lot less ingredients than toodaloo.
If you don't know what toodaloois, listen to our very first
episode on Corpsewood Manor Sometoodaloo.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, but if you're huffing gas we're toodalooing,
Damn it.
He needs help.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
He needs a lot of help he.
He then went to a bar andthreatened a bouncer who
wouldn't let him in because hedidn't have an ID, then said a
bunch of weird shit to somestudents as well.
He went back to the KrispyKreme and bothered the medical
student again.
He was talking about Ted Bundyand how he would like to stalk
women with knives.
So he's not making himself lookvery good, not at all.

(40:04):
He had called his grandmotherupset that he had lost his car
and that he would have to dropout of school.
I don't know what this meant bylost his car.
I don't know if he lost itbecause he didn't make the
payments and it got repoed.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Dude, where's my car?

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Or if he dude where's my fucking car?
And just lost it because he wasan unmedicated bipolar.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
So now my little sippy poos are over here kicking
in.
I unmedicated, you know bipolar, so now my little sippy poos
are over here kicking in.
I felt like I could have tookall of that, what you said
earlier, a lot better.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
No, you can't.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
No, either way, I mean well, I mean now it's a
little bit better for me,because I'm all like so grandma
called the police to do a wellcheck on him.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
When they arrived he said he didn't care about the
car anymore because he was goingto go to Panama to fight Manuel
Noriega, who was a dictator inPanama from 1983 to 1989.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
He was going to go there and be the do-that he was
going to liberate some shit.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
So he's just got a plan.
He just wants to.
I mean, he needs to be lookedat.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Dude wants to kill.
He's listening to the voices inhis head.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
And they're not good voices.
No, he then started talkingabout the murders, which, to the
cops, meant he might havesomething to do with it, even
though it's what everyone wastalking about.
Yeah, they did look into himand seen he was not the picture
of good mental health.
They did look into him and seenhe was not the picture of good
mental health and unfortunately,after the murders he had a

(41:31):
complete breakdown andphysically assaulted his
grandmother.
So he was arrested and becamethe main suspect for the Ripper
murders.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Who wouldn't?
I mean it sucks for him forhaving the mental issues.
It gets better, but he neededto be facilitated a lot more,
medicated or something Way more.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
It comes to a better place.
But this kid was questioned fora full 24 hours with no legal
representation At this time.
He was completely manic and wastalking about knives and
dismemberments and the media gotwind of this and, bam, edward
was the Gainesville Ripper.
But the FBI disagreed.

(42:13):
They were looking for more, aDanny Rowling type, not a kid
with bipolar, someone who wasolder and had been physically
and sexually abused, someone whowas constantly seeking approval
and someone who wanted to beknown for their crimes.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
This is a tricky ass, slippery slope what a fucking
coincidence.
I mean honestly every bit ofthis would have pointed right
there, but at the same time,thank you for doing the work
right.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Glad that it did not go the way of the west.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah, for doing the work on that one, because
goodness gracious Lindsay, likeslippery slope for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
But since the murders had stopped, since Ed was in
jail, it was not looking goodfor Ed.
They only had one more suspectnamed Stephen Bates, and because
he had satanic tattoos and hadcommitted armed robbery with a
knife and left satanic writingand some incriminating things

(43:11):
were found at his house.
But ed seemed to fit thenarrative more and they held him
with a million dollar bond.
So while ed was being held,danny broke into another
apartment and ate cookies andoatmeal not Not oatmeal cookies.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Okay, did he get a banana while he was?

Speaker 1 (43:30):
there.
No, he didn't get a banana but,he watched some porno and stole
a 1978 Buick Regal A Buick.
He then went on down to Tampa,started drinking heavily and
smoking crack, crack, crack,crack.
He went on another robbingspree and was almost killed by

(43:50):
police.
While fleeing the scene of acrime, his car was hit by 17
bullets.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Wow, but the fucker didn't die, he got away, or what
Tell me.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
He got away he got away.
Like what he got away?
What In September he fucked, Iknow.
In September he oh fuck.
I know.
In September he paid a womanwho was an artist to draw his
portrait and she liked himenough to invite him to her home
.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I want you to draw me like one of your French girls.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Stop it when they ate Chinese food and watched Good
Morning Vietnam and he didn't doanything to her.
What yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Oh, he had released the demon.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Gemini the.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Gemini.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
But he then robbed a house in Tampa and a Winn-Dixie
in Ocala, Ocala.
Oh, I have to say that all thedifferent podcasters and the
book that I listened to themispronunciations of Alachua and
Ocala.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Alachua.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
It was Alachua, alachua and Ocala and Ocalo,
ocala.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
It's showtime at the Ocalo.
What dude is just living?
He got away.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Can you let me finish the story.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I mean I can.
I mean I'm just saying he thenrobbed.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Like I said, he robbed a house in Tampa and a
Winn-Dixie in Ocala and on thisday there was a police training
day for the Ocala PoliceDepartment.
When the robbery was reportedthere was a massive amount of
police to respond and when Dannygot into another car he had
stolen, they were already on thescene.
I think this was a Mustang, sothere was a high-speed chase.

(45:30):
Danny wrecked the car and thenstarted running.
He ran into a Dial Americabuilding I forgot to look up
what that was, but I think itwas a telemarketer thing and he
was hoping to lose the cops, butthey were waiting at the back
door.
So he was taken down and hefinally said yeah, it's me and

(45:51):
I'm real sorry you didn't got me, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Goodness gracious.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
So back in Gainesville they realized that
Ed Humphreys was not their guy.
The DNA that was left behinddid not match up and I guess
Danny had left behind more DNAthan he thought.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
And he was also saying that you got me, I'm the
guy.
No.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Jesse.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Like you said.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
You got me for the robbery oh okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
He has not confessed to the murders yet.
He hasn't confessed okay.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
They're not after him for the murders, they're after
him for robbing the Wendix team.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Okay, well, I was tying the two together.
I'm paying all the attentionright now I am full.
Well, he said he got me and Iwas like, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
No, he was saying that about the robbery for the
Winn-Dixie, just the robbery.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yes, and this was in Ocala, but he didn't say you got
me for all of it, like I'm thedude, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
So Ed was pretty much off the hook, but the judge
months in the ChattahoocheeMental Hospital.
This ended up being a goodthing, because he became
regularly medicated and turnedhis life around.
He graduated magna cum laudefrom the University of Central
Florida after working his way upthrough a community college and

(46:59):
a full-time job.
So right now the song in myhead is Turn around, yeah, every
now and then I get a little bitcollege.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Okay, oh God, so he can.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Magnum comlum day, whatever Comlum day so he
continued to live his lifesuccessfully in Gainesville
until he passed away a few yearsago.
This was Ed.
Yeah, ed, ed turned around, sohe turned it around, turned it
around he got medicated and Iand uh I have pictures of when

(47:30):
he was first arrested and thenwhen he graduated.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
it looks like a completely different.
So person salad right, you'retalking about the salad of
people and all the shit.
A lot of these fuckers aresuper intelligent.
A lot of these serial killersand killers and people that are
doing all this wasn't a serialkiller, he was just unmedicated
bipolar.
Well, he wasn't, but I meantarget number one for sure,
right, Super intelligent, superjust.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Well, that's why we continue to say that mental
health awareness is important,because this guy could have went
away for a murder that hedidn't do because he was bipolar
, he was suggestive.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I mean, they could have talked him right into
confessing to something hedidn't do Target number one and
they just kind of tied in theirwhole panic shit with it and he
would have been done If theywouldn't have found anybody.
He was done If they wouldn'thave found anybody.
I guarantee it.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Here's where it's all going to come together.
A detective in Shreveport gaveGainesville a call because the
students' murders were verysimilar to the Unsolved Grissom
family murders.
And actually a lady named CindyDalvin had called the tip line
and said she knew Danny fromchurch 15 years prior.
She said Danny used to hang outwith her and her husband and

(48:41):
one night while drinking, herhusband said this guy's got to
go Because Danny had told him heliked to stick knives in people
.
Goodness, he had also toldCindy that one day he wanted to
leave Shreveport and move to aplace where he could lay in the
sun and watch beautiful people.
This lady literally saved thefucking day.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Come on girl.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
So the police compared the murders and for
some reason a dentist inShreveport had kept one of
Danny's teeth.
It's kind of weird, but okay, Idon't know if like, because now
I'm like.
Okay, I've had a couple ofteeth pulled.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Are they in?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
a little baggie with my name on it.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
In case I commit murder.
Do you get money back?
I wish they would give me moneyback if I go to the dentist and
get my fucking teeth pulled butthe tooth and the dna at the
crime scene was a match.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
And since danny was already locked up in ocala,
hooray, there it is, we got itall.
He was given four lifesentences before the murder
charges just for his, all hisrob, all his other crime without
, without murder because he hadalready raped, break and
entering, robbing at gunpointseveral times, right, several

(49:53):
times.
He went on.
What was it?
What did I mention?
Three different crimes for ease.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, he was all over the place.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Right.
His horrible father said thathe hoped Danny fraud for his
crimes.
Why?

Speaker 3 (50:04):
would he do that?
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
James, you did this.
You did this James.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah, I mean, he's the one that set up every damn
thing Dumplings.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Now Danny confessed.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
But he was good, like there was no problems with
Dumplings.
God Fucker, he created thismonster.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Created, I mean built him from birth Full on.
So Danny confessed his crimesthrough a fellow inmate named
Bobby Lewis, Not directly, Likehe did not go to anyone and say
I did this.
He told Bobby Lewis everything.
Bobby Lewis transferred thatinformation.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Reconveyed it yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
But Bobby also introduced Danny to Sondra
London.
But Bobby also introduced Dannyto Sondra London.
Sondra London was an author whowanted Danny's story to sell
some books because she was atrue crime author and Sondra and
Danny would go on to have arelationship.
Oh, how sweet and what's reallycrazy.
This fucking blew my mind.

(51:03):
She had also dated anothermurderer before he even became
one.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
She just had him out for him.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
This man's name was Gerard Schaefer Jr and his
killer names were Killer CopHangman and Butcher of Blind
Creek, and we're going to coverhim in a little day because I
did some side googling and wecan cover him.
We've got to do that.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
You should have done that next.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Well, I don't have.
I have Bernie already lined up.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
So he was from Wisconsin and committed his
murders in Port St Lucy.
How cheesy.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
But where?

Speaker 3 (51:40):
was that what?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
else happened in Port St Lucy.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
That was all kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Tyler Hadley.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Tyler, yeah, tyler, yeah, the Tyler Hadley one Keep
on.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
So Danny and Sandra.
I've mentioned this a littlebit before in the episode, but
Danny and Sandra were going towrite a book together and I
couldn't get that one becauseit's not on audiobook.
But I did listen to A Monsterof All Time by JT Hunter and it
was really good and informative.
Now Danny sang a song to Sandraduring one of his sentencing
hearings, and you know what?
It's not that terrible, justkidding, it's horrible.
You want to play it?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I can.
I can Hang on.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Let me get it pulled up.
What the fuck.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Imagine, though, that you're at this man's fucking
sentencing hearing for murdering, murder, murder, murder,
murdering, Brutally murderingyour fucking child, and you got
to hear this fucker sing.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
I don't want to hear this fucker sing.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
No, you need to, I need to.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
You need to, all right.
Well, here we go.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
We'll say I have to give Mr Rowling an opportunity
to have a say.
Do you have anything you wantto say, mr Rowling?
Well, sir, I'd like to pleasethe court.
Could I address the court?
Sure, say whatever you want tosay.
Thank you, I'll be in the time.
I recall the day I first sawyou.

(53:05):
I reached out to say I love you, but it was hard to say, I
couldn't touch you.
So tell me, baby, what were MrRollins, mr Rollins, mr Rollins.
Tell me, baby.

(53:31):
What were my words?
All my tears run together.
I got chills.
What were my words?
All my tears run together, baby, what?
Just like rain.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
You're kidding me, and now you've heard the voice
of a horrific killer.
You're kidding me.
And now you've heard the voiceof a horrific killer.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
You're kidding me.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Open court.
He does Sing a fucking song,his face does look just like the
mask.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
What I know?
What, lindsay, I literallyimagined his voice sounding just
like that, really.
Yeah, every bit of that, rightthere.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
See, it shocks me.
I almost threw my phone thefirst time I heard it.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
This is the first time I've heard this guy's voice
the epitome of how this guy hadsounded.
But the face, I know, was soghostly.
Oh my God, y'all have to checkthat shit out, goodness gracious
.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I love it on the Morbid Girls.
When they did the coverage onit they called it Danny Rowling.
Has spoopy, droopy eyes.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
They're droopy.
It looks just like the damnghost face.
Drip, drop.
So how does this tie in withghost faces?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Okay, so the screenwriter I forgot to Google
his name.
I'm so sorry, y', but it's.
It's an easy google search.
I just didn't write it my noteso it's not on the top of my
head.
He saw the news articles or thenews coverage on this, read
articles and everything andwrote, sat down and wrote the
whole screenplay all screenplayfor screen based around this yes
and I guarantee when he's seenhis face fucking slasher.

(55:07):
When he's seen his face, he's afucking slasher.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
He's seen his face.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
And in the first one go back and there is a lot of
references, that will be likeholy shit, Okay.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
All that ties together.
You know what you were at work.
The other day I watched theoriginal Scream movie.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Remember how Casey's guts were hanging out inside for
shock value for her parents.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Right, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Mm-hmm Drew Barrymore .

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Casey yeah, she was the first one to die.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Oh, my goodness, and you know I remember watching
that.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
When did that come out?
96, 97?
That shocked me that DrewBarrymore had such a small role.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Because I didn.
That.
Shocked me that drew barrymorehad such a small role.
Yeah, because I didn't know anyof the other actors at that
time.
Now they're like dna.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah, every one of them, yeah and uh so our but
drew barrymore at that time waslike fucking huge.
Could you imagine now like ifwe had went to that con and
handed him our card and beenlike we covered fucking danny
rolling, they would have tookthat shit.
They would have been.
I was in the fucking movie, butI want to check y'all out.
I mean, oh, my goodness, dude.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
And this story his face is fucking it is now
because of podcasters, becausepodcasters are fucking wonderful
, but this case was not verypopular.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
It's insane, though.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
We didn't know about it.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
I pictured his voice and him sounding just like this,
but his face.
I'm still shocked right nowright shocked.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
So guess who danny's lawyer was who tell me?
Who was eileen warner's lawyerthe same fucking legal steven
glazer no, really who's the onethat called Dr Ligo During the
murder sentencing, and allBecause I'm telling you this guy

(56:50):
was after.
I'm telling you from thedocumentary that I watched Nick
Brunfield's documentary that Iwatched on Eileen Wuornos this
guy was at one of these fuckingpeople to confess because he
made money off this shit.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Yeah, he was following unsolved.
He was selling his stories.
There was no way you coulddefend money off this shit.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, he was following unsolved.
There was no way you coulddefend any of this shit.
So I believe that he was just,you know, talking them into
confessing so that he could makehis cash cow.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
He's following a trail full of and like in Eileen
Wardow's.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
They literally called him an agent.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
He's just.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Arlene Eileen's buddy .

Speaker 3 (57:30):
She literally called him in the documentary their
agent, so yeah, yeah, so it'sjust a fame gathering, fame
gathering he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna hop on the nearest
fucking famous thing right.
That way he gets fame back andthere's no fucking way that you
can defend it well, and nickbroomfield like called him out

(57:50):
on that shit yeah yeah, likenick broomfield even had to,
like he was subpoenaed to courtover that shit I will.
I will take you pro bono,because I'm this is the whole
documentary what'd you say onthe last, on that, on that one
with eileen?
You were like uh, this is likea five joint trip, I think it
was like seven, seven, sevenjoint, yeah, this is seven joint
venture.
Man, I'm gonna get down hereand I'm gonna offend her.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Oh, he was such a hippie, she'll be out bro she's
not even a cool hippie.
No way bro.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
No way, Dr Legal man Got her, Got him too man, no
problem man.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Danny pled guilty to all the murders and was
sentenced to death by lethalinjection, even though he
thought pleading would get himlife.
Yeah, no fucking way, dude youdon't no See, that's you.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Don't no See, that's where I come in.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
He was on death row a long time.
Oh, he was yeah well so he wasarrested for these crimes in
1990.
And then oh, let me finish.
So his last meal was lobstertail with melted butter, of
course.
Butterfly shrimp, baked potato,strawberry cheesecake and sweet
tea.
Butterfly shrimp, baked potato,strawberry cheesecake and sweet
tea.
His last words were threeminutes of him singing a hymn in

(59:01):
October 25, 2006.
2006.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
He was arrested in 1990.
, he was put to death by lethalinjection.
I paid taxes that long for that16 years.
Sorry to be like that, but Ipaid taxes that long for that.
How do you feel about that?
I don't like it.
I want to know what ourlisteners feel about that.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
But at the same time, our boys were in jail for 18
years 18 for that one.
Yeah, and if they had been spedup, damien Echols would no
longer be with us.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
They would have been gone and he would not be doing
the good doing the work, I getit.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Your West Memphis 3 story, I get it that one's
always right there on my heartand there's more on that.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
There's new on that too.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I want to meet him.
So bad.
Damien Echols, please hear this.
I want to meet you and Lori.
We don't even have to talkabout your case.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
I feel like for true crime, that's a staple.
It is.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
That's a staple conversation, lori, you are a
badass bitch for doingeverything that you did to get
those boys out of there.
You worked your ass off fornine years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Well, and kudos too to the prosecution on this deal
too, because they had somebodyto the rights to begin with Well
.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
thank you, cindy.
What was her name?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Cindy Dalvin, if the rides to begin with, thank you
cindy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
What was her name?
Cindy dolvin she.
If it hadn't been for her tip,I don't think they would have
ever connected.
It would have been yeah, I mean, and the shreveport guys were
the ones that were called upgainsville hey, the tooth fairy
and there absolutely was,because those were a year prior
and were still unsolved.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Right.
So, and so they were stilldigging over there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Thank you, shreveport .
Thank you, cindy Dalvin.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Yes, Everybody did the work.
But when you have them dead, torights Now with West Memphis
Three, that was just all justtalk, like literally they put
them guys in prison, themchildren in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
For nothing, for nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
For nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
For wearing black and having and liking Metallica.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
They didn't have anything on.
It was all circumstantial Everybit of that.
So what a big difference thoughRight, you know this guy was
dead to rights Well, and thereason why I wanted to do Danny
right after Eileen, because thisall happened around the same
time.
All those so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Florida was.
There was some shit going onhere.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
And we were oblivious to it.
80s and 90s, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah, Eileen's was in 89, and then all these were in
90.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Goodness, gracious Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Had the same goddamn lawyer.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I'm glad Hell Powders has brought me to where I'm at
right now.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Hell Powders for getting us through this case.
We're getting Jesse throughthis case.
I'm drinking all these.
I'm tagging.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Hell Powders in this one, yes, because we've had some
great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
The charcuteries are fire there, we don't even know
what's on the plate, we just ateit and it was good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
You remember we did the brunch shit over there we
have.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
We've got to go back.
Yeah, we have to work on.
Sunday, so they well it's hardfor me to take off a Sunday,
cause I make a lot of money andthen we go to Hal Patters and
spend a lot of money.
So it's like it's hard for meto take off a day my biggest
money day of the week to gospend a lot of money.
But we're going to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
We gonna do it, we gotta do it.
I'll put a vacation day asidejust to go to brunch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Yeah, it's worth because we haven't been in two
years.
Take a vacation.
Yeah, we haven't been in awhile.
It's been a while, so I want toplay some music.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
What band are we plugging today before we play a
band?
I just got to do something foryou because you have been
phenomenal thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Thank you taking a bow, taking a bow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Two parter.
This shit was crazy.
It was crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Do you want me to high five you?
Yeah, high five on this one.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I'm Well, I'm, yeah, I'm broke down.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I have had nothing but Danny Rowling.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
You know what really pissed me off?
On my head for, like, it's beena month Of researching, so I'm
I head for like it's been amonth of researching so I'm over
it.
The george mike, I know it'sruined fucking gotta have faith
I'm just gonna go and fire andI'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
He's not calloused, yet I can still listen to george
michael and fuck danny rowleyI'm not gonna tell you, I'm not
gonna tell you okay, see you,then I can't get away.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
You hold like rafters .
You're in the dark.
Our light is red.
I know you're white.
I'm losing faith in you.

(01:04:00):
Who's inside of you?
I can't believe that you wastedthis time.
I am fucking high.
I'm a dirty talk shit.
Yeah, I'm trying to put it intime.
You speak it with salt and mist.
You just let me drive.
You see my feet, my body.
You can't hide.
You can't hide.
Gotta check it out.
You're fucking high.
I hit the 95, now drag it outto a fucking high, psychic,
vampire dreaming world.
This, right here, is where youare wrong.

(01:04:23):
This right here, is why you arewrong.
I'm right here because youenjoy.
You don't care to get droppedin the room.
I'm losing sight of you.
I can't believe that you missedit this time in my life.

(01:04:46):
Hey, look at me and I need thisbest of you.
Count it my mind.

(01:05:32):
I'm like one fucking man andthis is your life.

(01:06:30):
I love you.
Yeah, guitar solo.
I can't believe that you'rewasting my time and I'm being
this and this.
It's the real you.
You can't deny you wasted mytime.
This rocket Is where you willroll.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Bitches can't sit down.
Take your drink, go on, go on.
Oh my fucking God, what do youthink?
That's the dev.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
This is the dev.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Thank you First of all.
I've been begging for the Dev,but wow, I know.
Wow.
Is that with Nicolaj or the newsinger?

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
The new singer Bad ass fucking song.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I had chills, I was headbanging.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
The Dev Draining.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Lives Draining headbanging.
The Dev.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Draining, lives Draining lives.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Yeah, but Lindsay, I think I already followed them,
but I'm going to follow themunder our joints, lindsay.
They broke up in December, ugh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
But listen, that's okay, that's okay, they still
have music on Spotify.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
They do.
Go listen to it, go check outthe Dev.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Or whatever music app that you listen to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
But who knows, who knows what could happen with
bands and stuff.
So whatever stuff may havehappened, whatever you know, Can
I still tag them next week?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Yeah, we're going to tag them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Yeah, the dev has just been a thing for Lindsay
and I for a long time and wejust love the dev and whatever
endeavors the dev may have.
Yes, we're about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
so oh, I see on their bio it says thank you and
goodbye.
I'm sad, but still listen, guys, because they have great music.
Um, any show that jesse hasplayed with them has been
absolutely, stellar, stellar,absolutely.
So I'm telling you, listen totheir music.
It doesn't matter they may comeback With them.
Has been absolutely stellar,stellar, absolutely.
So I'm telling you, listen totheir music, it doesn't matter

(01:08:41):
they may come back around.
Give them a listen period.
Still follow them.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Show them that we're creating new fans and they need
to keep going.
And I'm friends with a few ofthe old members, chris.
I talked to Chris and he wasjust like, yeah, you can play us
, but we broke up in December.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
I'm like crying dude RIP, but I had to play them.
I don't care.
I've been begging for him toplay them.
It doesn't have to be an activeband.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
They've been on my list for like and who knows what
may happen.
You know who knows what mayhappen.
I could turn around and havesomething reform with whatever I
have.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Which Shadow of away, but when shatter the earth too,
when ste and the dev playeddude.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
We had a fire ass ball and bomb ass time.
So anybody from the dev if youdo hear us, thank you for
creating thank you for your art,for your music.
We love whatever past presentmembers, whatever, thank you you
.
You put this out in the world.
You know and it's your legacy.
Either way, you might even hateeach other.
I don't care if you hate eachother or not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
No, you make great music, I don't care.
Yes, that song is fire.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
I hate that you have struggles problems.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Whatever may happen, Dev is fire and thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
And we have enjoyed our time with you guys.
Yes, yes, for sure, and we'llsee Chris and everybody else
down the road, I'm sure.
So their previous singer, alittle girl crush, and we danced
together one night and I lovedit.
I danced with a girl and Iliked it and we all hung out
like um, she's fire.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
We were in orlando and we played a show together
fucking cool.
All the, all the badass talentshe's doing other stuff too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Yeah, yep, she is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
So it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
We've got to follow her new stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Just keep on making music.
If you have it in, you get itout, get it out, and this is
Lindsay's Get it Out.
And I thank you and I'm sofortunate to be part of your Get
it Out.
Thank you, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Thank you, sir, for doing all of your input.
I mean, he does all thetechnical stuff.
I have nothing to do with it.
I write the script and Iresearch the case, which can be
horrific.
We're having such a great timedoing this, but we are having a
great time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I'm getting addicted, you know, and it's worth it and
I love it.
It's so awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
It's an addiction that will never go away.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
No, it won't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
And it'll.
I mean, and honestly I reallyappreciate men who are either on
a pod with their wife because Ifound a few more couples that
do this or men that do it, justthem, because now I know that
they're aware of all the badthat has been put on this earth

(01:11:16):
by men.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Yeah, you're opening my eyes, you know, yeah, and we
found what women too, and it'swhy lair, right lair.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Oh, there's a bunch of women out there, but it's
also just a eye opening to theevil that is out there.
We didn't have to be afraid ofthe imaginary monster in our
fucking closet, but we shouldhave been afraid of the fucker
next door, like Danny Rowling,just as Rambo teaching me his

(01:11:47):
songs and well, not mepersonally, but teaching kids
songs and how to lift weights.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
So, before we finish this thing off, what made you
feel old?
My knees, your knees, mine too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Because I started going back to the Stairmaster at
the gym Like I work out at homeevery day or Monday through
Friday, and I was like I need totighten up my legs and we've
got Rockville coming soon, yeah,and I want to have the legs
straight.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
I need to start walking again too, because
you've got toville coming soon,yeah, and I want to have the leg
strength I need to startwalking again too, because
you've got to be prepared,prepared, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
So my knees, this knee, hurts really bad right now
.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Dude, I woke up the other morning and had to stand
and hold myself up and get myknee to working 43.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
42 and 43.
Your knees hurt your knees,your knees, your knees, your 42
and 43, your knees hurt yourknees, your knees, your knees,
your knees, and what's fucking Idon't understand is I'm taking
all the vitamins and you're not.
But I'm taking all.
Well, you are.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
I am you are.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
You've got your, I am .

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
I got my whole.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
It's a whole group of vitamin shit for dudes Like I
am.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Is there collagen in there?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
It's all in there, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm doing.
We just need to continue that.
I'm doing great because thathelps with your joints, lindsey,
I'm, I'm, I'm keeping up.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay.
So that's what we made,honestly that.
Are we just gonna lean on thatshit our knees forever, or we
gotta pick out something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
it could be a whole new element.
My knees ain't bothered me tillthis week, because I guess I'm
building up more strength forthose stairs.
There you go, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
I need to start walking more.
I only have a chance duringlunch break really.
But yeah, we got to getRockville ready, rockville ready
.
That was a fucking hell of astory, lancey.
I know, have I ruined you?
Yeah, a fucking hell of a story, lancy.
I know, have I ruined you.
Yeah, I mean I can wait untilnext week.
I mean we can do another one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
It's going to be a little more lighthearted.
It's still going to have murder, but it's a light, it's a more
lighthearted tale.
It's nothing.
Nothing Compared to DannyRowling.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
But next time you're fucking telling me to pregame
before I fucking hook this shitup so, bernie, you'll be all
right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Um, bernie teed, by the way, um, I looked up the
proper pronunciation.
If you listen to our eileenwarnos or no, it was our
wednesday recap yeah, wednesdayyeah, um, I pronounced his name
all kinds of wrong, but it'sbernie teed, um, so after bernie
teed you will need to pregamefor quite a few episodes after
that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
So you're like, hey, you need to sippy poo before we
talk.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I know I meant to tell you about Henry Zebrowski's
recommendation of drinkingwhiskey and meats.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
You're over there tripping, I'm over here sipping.
I mean, you're doing your stuffover here You're sipping.
I'm trying to tie one on though, because damn, I'm empty right
now and I did half and half.
Okay, we will say, there was agood four or five shots probably
in that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
But she didn't drink a whiskey neat.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
So that's what I should have done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Yes, I should have told you that beforehand.
I should have been like hey,henry said drink whiskey neat.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Henry said.
Henry said From.
Last podcast on the left oh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Henry is the Braski, he is the.
And you were telling me Well,they're all funny, but he is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
You were telling me this was a gold star episode.
Yeah, they call it a gold starTalking about this one Gold star
killing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Gold Gold Star.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Killings.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
So this is our Gold Star Serial Killings.
Yeah, I've been listening tothem for years.
They're one of my first truecrime podcasts ever listened to,
along with Sword and Scale Wellyou and I have traveled a
little bit and listened to someof that and you got so much more
time in, but this has just been.
This was a tough one for me.
Yeah, setting up and doing it.

(01:15:35):
Well, I'm getting you callousbecause there's going to be a
worse one I had his, had hisvoice down.
I had his voice wild.
I was shocked.
I had no idea the face that itreally does look like the scream
face.
So do check out any videoseverybody on danny rolling and
see that let us know what youthink about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Yeah, I watched them all and let us know what you
thought about his voice if youhad it nailed to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
I had that voice nailed down.
It was uncanny insane really, Ithought that was what I
pictured.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Wow, but the face, though, threw you completely off
.
All of it threw me off.
I'm like huh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
What the droopy eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
I mean, it looked just like it and, honestly, if
it hadn't have been because Ifor a long time listening, I
wouldn't look up the personuntil it just dawned on me way
later on.
But now I'm looking it up asI'm listening to put a face with
the story.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
This is the whole thing behind you, deep diving on
every little thing and gettingall the information on
everything you like to look up.
You're like I need to knowright now.
I got to know more.
I got to know it all.
I understand now I completelyunderstand it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
And I'm.
I mean it's.
There's usually documentariesrelated to all these cases, but
I don't have.
I already use all of my freetime to sit down and write this
shit out, so I prefer to listento all my information.
But I have put the headphonesin, played a documentary on my
phone and just listen to it inmy head and then just look at

(01:17:07):
the screen here and there.
Yeah, because you do find a lotmore information in the
documentaries.
Right, and like the westmemphis three one it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
It fucking broke me, but uh, yeah I still feel like
that's like your staple thingand the documentary is just
seeing those boys and however,everybody, even eddie vetter,
yeah and dan uh, henry rollinsgot a new thing, he's got a new
thing, so check out.
We need to check that out herein a little bit okay henry
rollins has got a new thingabout some stuff.
Yeah, yeah, we got to checkthat out.

(01:17:37):
Okay, yeah, a little bit.
Henry Rollins has got a newthing about some stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Yeah, yeah, we got to check that out, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Yeah, he's got some history and some stuff that he's
talking about.
I think it's on Netflix, buthe's got a TV show now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
By the way, if you are sheltered or young and do
not know of the case of WestMemphis 3, we do have a
three-parter on it in our littlecatalog.
West Memphis three we do have athree-parter on it in our
little catalog and I'm verypassionate about it and I will
not stop being passionate aboutit ever.
But I really hope that they canget that evidence tested.
I hope that somewhere somebodyis going to allow it, because

(01:18:12):
right now Arkansas has said nope.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Fuck you Arkansas.
Fuck you Arkansas, we love ouryou Arkansas.
Fuck you, arkansas, we love ourlisteners in Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
If you live in Arkansas, you're probably just
as mad.
Prude disclaimer.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
But we're finding cool new listeners everywhere
though we're building.
I love it, so thank you guys somuch.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Share us.
Yeah, Tell your friends yourmother.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Share all the cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Anybody, any of your friends, that love this type of
shit.
I feel like we're being trendynow you know, hit the like
button and subscribe well, wegotta do that, we gotta do it,
we gotta plug, we gotta plugourselves.
Nobody else is gonna do it forus.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
I guess we gotta do it, but I don't wanna do it.
I guess everybody else does itbut I don't wanna do that
Subscribe.
Thank you guys so much.
No, we just want some fuckingreal ass.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Cool people and some feedback and reach out to us
with all the feedback.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
We'll take it all, but we will see you guys next
Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
And I'm excited and it's going to be a little bit
lighter.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Yes, a little bit lighter For Bernie T.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
But you need to hear it, so we'll see you guys next
Friday.
Bye.

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