EPISODE 22: Casey Anthony

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Jesse.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey Lindsay, he got me.
Hey Lindsay, hey Lindsay, heyJesse, that's just my girl,
Jesse.
She's my bestie.
That's my bestie, Jesse.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
What are you drinking , Jesse?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm drinking this drink that we got here from no,
I was about to say Hell Patterns.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You was about to say Hell Patterns, I didn't say Hell
Patterns.
So on our anniversary weekendwe went to the St Augustine
Distillery.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
St Augustine Distillery and we got this
amazing gin drink.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Y'all that place is awesome.
It's free, go in there, they'llget you drunk.
They'll go in there, they'llget you drunk.
They'll give you shot aftershot of all the little things.
And then they got a littlestore where you can buy their
liquor and accessories to gowith it.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
So I almost said how patterns, because I've been
thinking about how patternsdoing tours all week long.
If that makes sense, and I justthink that they should do it,
that would be a cool littlething for us doing tours.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
like you know, like the distillery tour, like we did
, if how patters did adistillery tour okay, okay, yeah
, but st august, they don't dothat already.
No not that I know of no Ididn't know that.
Yeah, they need to do it.
I'm gonna talk to them, they'regonna do it.
I'm gonna get with them.
It's time, because I mean, allyou have to do is just get a
couple of dudes to do a coupleof you know, taste testing and

(01:25):
blah, blah, blah, and you cansell a shitload more and you can
have more people there and it's, you know, an attractant.
That'd be great.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hal Patters do tours.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
We got gin and tonic mixed.
Yeah, I was going to sound verycountry.
You know that the liquor hashit me, so we're drinking out of
these mugs that we had up onour shelf.

(01:56):
That contains a huge plethoraof shot glasses, drink glasses
and whatever, and they still hadtags on them yeah, we've never
drank out of them.
Never drank out of these.
So cheers, we're going to do acheers and we're going to say
happy St Patty's Day toeverybody.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
There it is.
Hold on, that didn't break.
Okay, I'm good, all right.
Yes, oh, let me do mine.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Hang on, sippy sippy why Claude drank an ass, but we
also have a green Apple VistaBay as a backup.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
This hits good.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
This hits good, go get it, go get it yeah the whole
kit comes with gin, tonic mixand vodka man we dropped like
$3.50.
It was $2.79, sir, but let mename everything we got.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
So we got the- $2.79.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yes, so we got the tonic mix which, like I said,
comes with gin and vodka.
We got Bloody Mary mix.
You got like their mostexpensive bottle of whiskey.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, second most.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Second, most Okay, was it whiskey or bourbon?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's bourbon.
Okay, it's definitely bourbon.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, and then we've got two shot glasses, we got a
nice little button-up shirt forJesse, and then we got some
pickled okra and pickled greenbeans.
But I have to say we're not afan of the pickled okra.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
It was too crispy and it wasn't spicy-ish, it was
plain, it was sweet and spicy.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Which is good, because we like sweet and spicy
pickles.
But we just didn't want them inour Bloody Mary and that's what
we made with them.
We like just the spicy one.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
The bloody mary mix, wasn't top either.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, we still like zing zang zing zang is the tits
8.98 a bottle at walmart.
It's on my cart every otherweek it is.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
We like the spicy too .
A little bit of that for me,she like a little shot of that
yeah, what are you drinkingabout?
What are we drinking about over?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
here, All right.
So I just sent you a TikTok andI need you to plug that in and
then we will talk about I haveto plug it.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay, I can do that I can do that.
Y'all check this out, okay.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Today is Saturday, march 1st 2025.
This is my first of probablymany recordings on a series that
I'm starting.
I am a legal advocate.
I am a researcher.
I've been in the legal fieldsince 2011.
And, in this capacity, I feelthat it's necessary, if I'm

(04:18):
going to continue to operateappropriately as a legal
advocate, that I start toadvocate for myself and also
advocate for my daughter.
For those of you who don't know, my name is Casey Anthony.
My daughter is Kaylee Anthony.
My parents are George and CindyAnthony.
This is not about them.
This is not in response toanything that they have said or
done.
That's not to say that I'm notgoing to respond at some point

(04:38):
to some of the things that theyhave said and done.
The whole point of this is forme to begin to reintroduce
myself so that's what the fuckwe're drinking about today
lindsey, listen to me right now.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
And I knew some shit like this was coming.
I knew you was gonna flip mesome shit like this right here,
and I know about this one alittle, a lot and too much
already.
Jesus, effing Christ A-hole,I'll tell you what.
Right now, dude, and I'm noteven I'm gonna have to drink all
this twice.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, so before.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
You just no, you just Lindsay Nicole Michelle.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I was gonna say where's the Michelle man?
Okay, so before.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Michelle, I was going to say where's the Michelle.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Ah man, Okay so before.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I guess I'll sit here , we get into all that.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Let's finish our little outline here.
So if you're new here, this isepisode 22.
Deuce, deuce in the trunk of mycar and yeah, oh fuck, wait a
minute.
Ah, in the trunk of my car andyeah, oh fuck, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh, in the trunk of my car, lindsay, that's fucked
up, bro.
Lindsay, lindsay, yeah, youmight need to delete that
asshole.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I am not deleting that.
That was accidental Completely,you guys.
He's laughing into the plantagain.
That was accidental Completely,you guys.
He's laughing into the plantagain.
What we do here is we have adrink and talk about I don't
want to talk about it and talkabout true crime, and we plug a

(06:20):
band at the end that we'redigging and we think you should
listen to and my ultimate goalevery week is to break.
Jesse, you got me now.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
The fuck Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
So what made you feel old this week?
Casey ass fucking.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Anthony made me feel old.
You know what I namedhemorrhoids.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Casey, I named him.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Anthony's feel old you know what I name hemorrhoids
casey anthony's.
I name him anthony's.
There was this dude that wentfishing with us one time and his
name was anthony.
I'm gonna tell this one, okayI'm gonna drink we're a hundred
miles offshore fishing and thisdude, he's sitting sideways.

(07:06):
He's in the boat eight footseas.
If you know what eight footseas are, you've seen five.
The worst you've ever seen wasfive.
Eight foot seas and a hundredfoot boat and he's sitting
sideways.
He's just like dude.
I can't move.
He had to go to the hospitalafterwards.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
He had the biggest Is that why you call them
Anthony's?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I do call them Antoine's.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
So Jesse has called we have special names.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
We call them Antoine's or Twan's or Anthony's
or.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, I always thought that was weird, but I've
never heard that story untiljust now.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay, so check this out.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I mean, you know what , though it made sense.
I'm like okay, your hemorrhoidsare in, anthony, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
For 12 hours dude sitting sideways.
He went to the hospitalafterwards.
That's fucking terrible.
Well, okay, so that wasSaturday, but the Friday before
that one.
Okay, the superintendent overmaintenance right, told him to
put.
What did he tell him to put?
It was icy hot on that.
He said it would draw it up.
He's over there in the paintbooth no, it's preparation h

(08:13):
screaming, screaming, ungodwrenching, and he's like I'm not
gonna miss this fishing trip.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
So he went on the work fishing trip we had you
know, when I was growing up andI would see hemorrhoid
commercials about the tux pads,like I never understood until.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
That makes it worse, though I tried them.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh tux, You're trying to tuck that shit back up there
.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Old people this is TMI here.
I'm old and have experiencedsuch things.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
This is what made us feel old.
We're talking about fuckinghemorrhoids.
Casey Anthony's Casey Anthony'syes.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So what makes you feel old there, Miss Lindsay?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know there's a couple of things this week.
So, after our anniversaryweekend of nothing but alcohol
and fried food God, it was sogood, though I could not get out
of bed Monday morning.
I commend you, sir, for beingable to get up and go like you
did.
I could not get out of bedMonday morning, it was.

(09:14):
I felt like I had the flu, likeit was just on you.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, you couldn't overcome.
I felt terrible.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
About 10 o'clock Y'all.
I never sleep past seven.
Today was eight o'clock but itwas the weekend.
But during the week my bodyautomatically gets up by 6, 30
or 7 at the latest and now youknow I've been late to work.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know why I've been late.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Oh, god, yeah, so yeah, fried food and booze made
me feel old this week trailerpark was good, oh so good yeah,
if you're in saint augustine, goeat at trailer park yeah, and
watch our uh video.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
We just put a video out on youtube so you can check
that out and see our adventuresyep it's really cool.
It's really cool, cool, cool,cool, cool, cool, cool cool.
I can't do it right now.
I gotta get more drunk.
You're fucking dropping caseyanthony on me, though I am so
because she made her debut ontiktok so she has a tiktok and

(10:16):
her old shit.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh, the internet has shut her.
The fuck down they should god,nancy grace came out of nowhere
again because that bitch wasscreaming at us about her
nonstop for years.
But yeah, so everyone knowsthis case, even you.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I know about it, yeah .

Speaker 1 (10:36):
But somehow you were oblivious to the outcome.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, I think is she still in prison.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh, jessie, what Sweet summer.
Jesse, what Sweet summer child,let's get into the story.
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
She ain't still in prison because I'm over here
like how the hell has this chickgot TikTok?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Oh, sweet, sweet Jesse, she's not incarcerated
right now.
Jesse, you're going to have towait until I tell the story.
Hello listeners, I know y'allknow all about this shit because
we watched it all unfold.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Lansi yeah, You're looking at me like you got oh,
go ahead.
Well, shit's safe I'm happythough.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm happy that you don't know the outcome, because
I get to fuck your world upwhich is what I love to do on
this pod.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
It's not fair.
This ain't fair.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Wait till the next one.
Oh dude, I'm not done.
You're gonna think caseyanthony is a saint when I talk
about the next bitch, but we'reon casey anthony today okay,
okay, okay, okay.
But let me hang on, shit's sake, let me drink some more yeah,
all right, we're both gonna haveanother drink of our gin and
time I don't even drink thismuch at mo, I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'm going because fuck.
Okay, go, yeah, all right.
Well, bert's going to haveanother drink of our gin and
tonic.
I don't even drink this much.
Okay, I'm going because fuck.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, go by the way, you guys what?
Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Happy Friday oh yeah, yeah, I'm fucked right here.
You kind of got me fucked,lindsay.
I really am.
I don't know what to do?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't know what to do.
What a ride.
Oh my God, damn it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Lindsay.
So Casey Anthony was born March19th 1986 to George and Cindy
Anthony in Warren, ohio.
She had an older brother namedLee, who was born in 1982.
That is the year of my birthand then they moved to Orlando,
florida, in 1989.

(12:39):
I will get um, I'm going togive a little bit more about
George and Cindy a little lateron, but just remember all of
that.
So they moved to Orlando in1989.
Right, george had been a policeofficer and detective in Ohio
and then would work a bunch ofdifferent security jobs in
Orlando and Cindy was a nurse.

(13:00):
George is something else, okay,but we'll get more into him a
little later on.
Casey is described as brightand popular throughout her
childhood, but when she became ateenager she started to tell a
lot of lies that's my bestie,casey, she's my bestie.
How dare hey casey, and thesewere lies that wouldn't make

(13:22):
sense and and I'm pretty surethat that's called a
pathological liar.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
So she was constantly just telling stories the whole
time.
Could not get away from them.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Her senior year was when she told her biggest lie
thus far at that point of herlife.
She was preparing forgraduation and accepting gifts
and had a whole party plannedwhen Cindy got a phone call the
day before she was supposed towalk that she would not be
graduating.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Oh, here we go Telling the family that she was
going to do it, but she ain'tgoing to do it.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Casey had known well in advance that she did not have
enough credits to graduate anddidn't do anything to obtain
these credits.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Have we had that experience with us before?
We have, but at least we knewbefore the day yeah, but for a
kid to like spend all that timeall the way up to graduation,
and then something fuckeryhappened yeah, ladies and
gentlemen, if they are 18 yearsold in their senior year, the
school don't tell you shit.
We know from experience, wedidn't know and we had a kid

(14:21):
that just didn't make it and webought shit.
We was like gonna have this bigparty for him and all this
stuff.
Then, all of a sudden, oh, likea month before, we did get a
month's notice.
And Landon's not going tograduate and I'm like what?
What?
No way, and we thought he hadit.
Something happened, I don'treally know what happened.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, he decided to switch schools because he was an
adult when he started hissenior year.
He decided to switch schools tobe closer to his girlfriend and
go to school with hisgirlfriend, so he did not get
the credits that he needed, justlike her.
But you should have known, butthey told him.

(15:05):
The day that they told him iswhen we knew Really.
Yes, that was the day.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh how organized that was Right.
A month before you weresupposed to make up two credits
before.
Was it two credits?
How many credits?
Was it Three, three, what thefuck, dude?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
But Casey.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Was nowhere close.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
She was the day before this shit was supposed to
go down.
So, Cindy found out the daybefore and instead of canceling
the party and letting peopleknow that Casey had been lying,
Cindy went along with it andsaid the school messed up and
that's why she couldn't walk.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I feel like these kids need a little bit more
guidance and parents are left in.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, not know, we not knowing the school, even if
they are an adult, if they'readdressed and still is known as
still living at home with theparents.
The parents still need to knoweven though they're a legal
adult.
They're still living with us.
We didn't know.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, but go ahead.
I never got a phone call aheadwith this flap trap over here.
We didn't know.
Yeah, but go ahead, because Inever got a phone call.
Go ahead with this flap trapover here, man, god damn dude.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
So Casey did get her GED but continued to live with
her parents, and in January of2005, casey was around 19 and
had dated a guy named JesseGrund.
Yes, she dated a Jesse.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh, I wish I had a Jesse's girl, never mind.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Not long after Cindy noticed she was putting on a
little weight in her midsection,so her parents did ask her if
she was pregnant, and she waslike no, I'm still a virgin,
okay.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Lying again, oh yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Jesse was not her first boyfriend at all.
She had had several.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Never me.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
But this one, I'm guessing, was the first one that
she was like really seriousabout and brought home to mom
and dad.
She would keep telling this lieuntil she was around seven
months and once again Cindywould go along with the lie,
saying that it was water weight.
Like yeah, they went to afamily event.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So was she.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean not to say, she's a very tiny, petite woman.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Okay, that's where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's where I'm going, so no matter what she's
going to show Like there was acousin who was like so there was
a cousin who was like sheshowed up to our family event.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
What a dummy.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
With a little snug top on and she clearly had a
belly and her belly button wasprotruding out.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
So Hello, that's water weight, girl, that's water
weight.
That's water weight, girl,that's water weight.
I'm on this new diet.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Do not make fun of me .

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm on this new diet called Dick Down.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm on this new diet called dick down.
I'm on it all, okay I'm.
I'm gonna reference mean girls.
I'm on an all carb diet.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay, she's eating the fuck out of them candy bars
is butter a carb.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And they even kept the pregnancy from her brother
lee until two days before caseygave birth.
Two days, two days.
Why you?
Why you?
I'm gonna get into it.
This is a fucked up family,jesse.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, I'm sweating, so just have that.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I'm sweating.
Have that in your mind.
This is a fucked up fam.
I am Okay, I miss the gin.
So on August 9th 2005, caseygave birth to Kaylee Anthony,
and Cindy would be the first tohold her and would say it's like

(18:34):
having Casey all over again.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Cindy's fucked up too it's fucked up family, but it's
precious Like at this moment.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh, it is.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's precious it is, it's like you have to back up
and embrace that moment in humannature well, and also I mean,
people can be shitty ass peoplewell, also I need to say this as
well, okay go ahead, casey hadwanted to give the baby up for
adoption beforehand she was justlike okay, I'm gonna deny this

(19:01):
like no, she was disassociatingthe whole pregnancy.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
This was unwanted from the start.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Was she even still with dude at this time?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, so she was still with Jesse, but let me get
on into that Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay, let me keep going.
I'm wanting to just fuckLindsay Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
So Jesse was presumably the father, but Casey
would also say that Kaylee'sfather was Jesus Ortiz and he
had died in a car accidentbefore she met Jesse, which
makes sense if you do the math.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
So there's another rooster in the in-house, but
he's no longer.
What, but she?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
also said that the father was this guy named Eric
Baker what, who also died in acar crash.
But eric, she didn't know him.
She had for real dated.
Jesus, you cannot flip me thismuch shit this early in the game
.
Oh listen, oh it's it's justgonna be one after another

(20:00):
already like I said, she, sheactually dated j Jesus, but she
didn't know Eric, so it isspeculated that she just kind of
picked his name out of anobituary.
Yeah, in one of her more recentinterviews which I watched, it
was a three-parter.
I'm not that callous.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
She was listed as a producer on this fucking series
as well.
Yeah, oh, she lied about hercredentials and her skills.
It was hard to watch.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
It was hard to watch because it was all her and
people that advocated for herI'm sick to my stomach yeah, I
was sick to my stomach watchingI am right now so she wait a
minute, okay, go ahead so, likeI said in recent interviews, she
would say that kaylee wasactually a product of rape, that
she had went to a house partyand only had two beers before

(20:50):
she passed out and she had beendrugged and woke up without
clothes on.
But the paternity of Kaylee isactually still a mystery to this
day.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Really they have not found anybody.
Did they dig up dude and getsomething on him to see if it?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
was Jose's.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
No.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I haven't found that in my research.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm not 100% sure.
I'm sorry, jesus, jose Jesus.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Jesse did ask Casey to marry him, and they did get
engaged.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
So he's trying to stand up?
Okay, but he was under to standup.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay, but he was under the impression for a
little while that he was thefather.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Really, did she tell him that I'm?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
not 100% sure how it went down.
Casey in her interview saysthat she let Jesse assume that
he was the father.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
She never did tell him this or that Right All the
way up to.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
There's a lot of just how do you be that vague, hush,
hush type shit in this?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
case and it's really.
Oh, I'm usually callous to thisbullshit and I am pissed oh
baby, I'm not even past thefirst page.
So let's, let's keep going butyou haven't talked about
childhood.
Kid shit.
This is, she's grown she'sgrown I'm going to go backwards
in a little while I don't knowwhat happened to her as a kid,

(22:09):
let me let me usually come backto that, okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm sorry, it's the, it's the gin so casey gets a
nanny for kaylee named zenaidafernandez gonzalez, nida
Fernandez Gonzalez, or aka Zanny, the Nanny.
Zanny, the.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Nanny, I like that.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
She found out about her through an ex-boyfriend
named Jeffrey, and rememberJeffrey.
Okay, Jeffrey and Zanny alsowatched his son and supposedly
she was paying for both hisson's and Kaylee's care.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
And got a son-in-law named Jeff.
We were doing the mic check tothat earlier.
Yeah to, I'm ADD today.
I'm on 10, dude, y'all got me,y'all got Jesse on 10.
And Jesse's involved.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
So in the beginning to outsiders and friends, casey
seemed like a really good mother.
She was calm and attentive,Never let anyone smoke around
her Because let's remembercasey's young and she did have
young friends, so they weresmoking, drinking, you know,
partaking in the ganja she'sstill a child to me yeah, yes,
and casey was not really theparty girl that she was later

(23:18):
made out to be.
She would kind of take her kidalong with her to hang out at
friend's house, and just becauseyou're at your friend's house
doesn't mean a party's happeningbut she had to be because I was
a young mom and I would just goover and watch golden girls
with my friends, you know whothis one of the three dads was
like I said, this doesn't alwaysmean a party is happening.
Casey's friends say that she wasalmost always the designated

(23:42):
driver and would scold herfriends for smoking pot and even
, like one friend which willcome up a little later on, he
would say that like she would doflashcards with Kaylee.
Like you know, like she was,she was a good mom, she was
doting, she was trying to teachher.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, y'all, don't fire that up.
The kid's in the back seat.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh God.
But she was still apathological liar.
For two years she had everyoneconvinced that she worked for
Universal Studios as an eventplanner.
Look at her and I don'tunderstand this, because how do
you keep that lie for two years?
Where's the money, girl?
Where's the money?
We need receipts.
She was coming home.

(24:23):
She was living at home.
Cindy and George are stillpaying for fucking everything.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I need my receipts.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
She did work for them for a very brief time, but she
continued this lie for two years.
So she would leave five days aweek and pretend that she was
going to work.
She would send herself fakeemails like she had this facade
down pat.
She had it down to a science.
Okay, it would have been easierto get an actual fucking job

(24:51):
than to keep up this lie.
Like it had my head spinning atthe tails that she would spin
Literally, I had to take a drink.
I'm just quiet dude.
She would pretend to bestressed out about being a
single working mom for herfriends and family and even took

(25:12):
her mother to a supposedmeeting that she was having with
a co-worker, but that co-workercouldn't make the meeting.
And guess what?
She named this fake co-worker.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Really.
Juliette Lewis, juliette Lewis,juliette Lewis, juliette Lewis.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Juliette Lewis, our girl from what's our movie With
Quentin Tarantino and SalmaHayek?
Oh, from Dusk Till Dawn.
Yeah, the blonde what?
Yeah the girl that she's in thechick band?
We just saw her at Megacon lastyear.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, we did, we watched her panel.
We did, we did, we did watchher.
Yes, we did go and watch her.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
That was the name that she came up with Juliet,
motherfucking Lewis.
Yes, but I love Juliet Lewis ohwe love Juliet Lewis.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Remember her in old school where she was like the
fucking sex-craved wife of LukeWilson.
She was like there's nothingwrong with me, okay?
Oh, my god, I love JulietteLewis.
What's eating, gilbert Graves?
She's been in some amazingNatural.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Born Killers.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Natural Born Killers.
She's been in some greatfucking films.
I will be covering the truestory that that movie was
inspired by.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
You know, when we were sitting in that panel, I
pictured her in that rv and Iwas just like how fucked up is
quentin tarantino to make thesescenes in this?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
oh, quentin tarantino is fucked.
Remember the whole joke duringcovid where it was like that's
tna tintin quarantino tintin.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I love his stuff, but he is fucked.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I love how everything he makes the killing scenes and
the gunshot wounds and shit arejust so they're on 10.
Yeah, Everything.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
10.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
You shoot somebody with a shotgun and you blow the
fuck up All the way, all thefucking way.
Django, that's a fucking.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's a Quentin Tarantino movie, and then Once
Upon a Time in Hollywood that wejust watched.
Oh God that was so good.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Imagine if that had been the actual outcome of the
Manson family shit.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You're not fucking Juliette Lewis bitch.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yes, and you don't know her.
How dare you?
Yeah, she was nice.
Yeah, she was very nice, shewas very cool.
So there was a DNA test donearound 2006 and Jesse was not
the father and this devastatedhim and he did break off their
engagement, but they stillstayed in contact and we'll talk
about that later on.

(27:33):
So on June 16th 2008, cindyleft at 7am for work as usual.
Casey got up, made Kaylee'sbreakfast, but she wasn't
feeling really well.
Casey got up, made Kaylee'sbreakfast, but she wasn't
feeling really well.
So she says that she broughtKaylee back to the room to lay
down with her and George wouldleave later on that day, around

(27:55):
I think it was 1.30.
I forgot to type that in mynotes Between noon and 1.30,
somewhere in there.
Well, later that night, caseywould meet up with her new
boyfriend around 7 pm.
His name was Tony Lazzaro andhe and Casey had met on either
Facebook or MySpace.
Both were still dominant atthis time.

(28:15):
This was 2008.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Onto the next lily pad.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Facebook was new and MySpace had been a thing for a
while.
Hop, hop.
Casey would usually bringKaylee along with her to Tony's
house, but this night she wasalone.
They rented a couple moviesfrom Blockbuster.
I remember that.
I remember those daysBlockbuster was great.
So, out of character, caseydecided that she would also

(28:38):
smoke some weed with Tony andhis roommate Clint.
Before that she was likeanti-Marijuana.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Okay, or she said she was.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah Well, other people that she hung out with
said that she was as well, likeall her.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
So she was trying to impress the new, the new rooster
.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, from June 16th.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah.
Well, I mean there's a new guyand she's like I'll talk with
you, no Cool.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
From June 16th.
Remember that, okay, okay, okay, all right, so she would smoke
out with Tony and his roommateClint.
Now, tony and Clint were fromLong Island and they were
attending college in Orlando.
What is that?
Was it Florida State?
No, not Florida.
State University.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Central Florida University, central Florida, I
think.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah.
So four days later, Casey wasat a bar.
I think it was called ClubUltra.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, that's a big one in Orlando.
Yeah, she's doing it.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
So she was.
She was there and she entered ahot body contest and this is
where Tony and Clint wouldsometimes DJ and they were party
promote.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, I got this hot body I'm going to hang out with
my friends, anthony was.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
she was a smoke show.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean I'm looking, I don't care, Not that I get back
, fuck Back.
Then she was, she was, she wassmall.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
She was petite and she snapped right back after
having that baby.
Okay, so they went by DJAnonymous, spelled with an O,
and DJ.
Beatty Kasey had been tellingher friends that her parents
were getting divorced and sheand Kaylee had to move out.
And then she told some friendsthat they were getting divorced
and she was going to have totake over the house.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
This whole time.
Bitch ain't going to work, sheain't going to hold her head
down and fucking do good shit.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
No, she told a lot of lies, yeah, so just remember
that.
Okay, but Kaylee wasn't withher this whole time, okay, and
she just basically moved in withTony and Clint.
Casey would take care of thehouse and clean and cook and

(30:42):
baby basically became like theirlittle um, their little
housewife.
And as far as everyone wasconcerned, kaylee was either
with Zanny, the nanny, or herparents, depending on who she
was talking to.
Casey kept a journal and afterthe hot body contest she wrote
this entry.
I completely trust my ownjudgment and I knew that I made
the right decision.
This is the happiest I havebeen in a very long time and I

(31:02):
hope that my happiness willcontinue to grow.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You're wiggling your head like a valley girl while
you're saying that.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Because I'm just picturing her writing it.
You're all like what'm going?
On bitch.
Okay, so this journal entry wasnot dated, but it was presumed
to be written on that day, whichwas five days after the last
time Kaylee had been seen.
On July 2nd, casey went to CastIron Tattoos and got a tattoo.

(31:31):
This is famous as fuck of thewords Bella Vita on her, her
back, which means beautiful life.
Contact with her parents hadgotten scarce and at some point
her and tony broke into herparents shed and stole, oh it's
a beautiful life sorry.

(31:54):
Okay.
So her and Tony stole some gascans because George had them
stocked at all times, becauseCasey would often run out of gas
and they would have to rescueher.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
She was a little damsel in distress.
Oh, help me All the time.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Help me.
I'm beautiful and you got to dowhatever I ask you.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
And this was all under the assumption that she
had this badass job at UniversalStudios.
Okay, and this was all underthe assumption that she had this
badass job at Universal Studios.
Okay, george actually calledthe police over this and nothing
, nothing was done about it.
And when they asked aboutKaylee, when her parents asked
about Kaylee, she was alwayswith Zanny.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Now, lee Casey's brother had took a ride in
Casey's car around this time andhe said it smelled faintly of
death.
You're fucking me up right now.
I know this part.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
This part, casey would say that two squirrels had
crawled into her engine anddied.
And I mean, I grew up on a farmand I would go out to my bus
stop every day as a child and itwas not uncommon to walk to
that bus stop.
That's the only smell that Ican have associated with death

(33:05):
is the smell of decaying animals.
I don't know if a human smellsthe same way.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Close.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, I've never smelled a dead human.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
You can associate that.
Didn't have formaldehyde inthem already?
I have, unfortunately, okay,that've never smelled a dead
human.
You can associate that didn'thave.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, you can associate Formaldehyde in them
already.
I have, unfortunately.
Okay, that's terrible.
So she had told another friendwho rode in the car with her
that she had hit an animal andsome of the remains had gotten
stuck.
So after a month A monthPartying and posting about it

(33:38):
Casey takes the car that she hadbeen using down to, which was
it was her parents car but theywere letting her use it.
She takes it down to like anamscot, like a check, a check
cashing place, right, and shejust decided to leave it there.
It was running on fumes and shedidn't want to spend her whole
whatever paycheck she got.
I think that this was one ofwhich we'll talk about later.
I think this was a stolen checkfrom a family member.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Why do you have me so fucking nauseated right now?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh it's, you're going to be sick the whole time.
So she abandons the car andafter a while employees notice
that said car has been in theirparking lot for some time and
calls to have it towed.
It goes to the impound and thencindy and george are notified
about the car and it was crazyhow they even found out like the

(34:26):
certified letter came to theirhouse, and you know how they
usually will either put them inyour mailbox or they will post
them on the front door I want tofucking just say it, because I
already know it, cindy justhappened to find it in the yard
it had blown away.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
This has just got me wanting to fucking yell right
now.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
So they're like, okay , why is our car impounded?
And they go to get it out andtry to figure out what's going
on.
George pays for it to get outand he walks with the impounded
employee to go get it and theyboth open the door, or one opens
the door, but they're boththere a george and the employee
and they smell something awfulyeah like death I know already,

(35:10):
george gets home and tells cindyjust come.
He's like, come smell this shit.
And they pop up in the trunkand see that a trash bag and
some other shit was in there andthey just threw it away.
They didn't look inside and seewhat.
And Cindy uses an entire bottleof Febreze to get the smell out

(35:30):
and she cleans the car but itdoesn't really solve the problem
.
They left the car completelyopen to air it out and now they
are more concerned about Caseyand Kaylee and try to get a hold
of Casey, with no luck.
So they set out to find Tony'sapartment to confront Casey.
Cindy gets there and there arepipes and bongs and other drug

(35:52):
paraphernalia.
Everybody's getting high andthis is early in the morning.
We all know about waking andbaking.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
This is a whole other level of waking and baking.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But Cindy is concerned and she asks where the
fuck is Kaylee?
And Casey says she's with Zanny, and then Cindy will go on to
make three 911 calls and herethey are.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Please just sound to be recorded.
I can't help you.
Thank you, hello.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Hi, I drove to the police department here on
Pershing but you guys are closed.
I need to bring someone intothe police department.
Can you tell me where I can,the closest one I can come into?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
What are you trying to accomplish by bringing them
to the station?

Speaker 4 (36:37):
I have a 22-year-old person that has Grand Theft
sitting in my auto with me.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
So the 22-year-old person stole something.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Is this a relative?

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Where did they steal it from?

Speaker 4 (36:54):
My car and also money .

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Okay, is this your son?

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Daughter.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Okay, so your daughter stole money from your
car.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
No, my car was stolen .
We retrieved it today.
We found out where it was at.
We retrieved it.
I've got that and I've gotaffidavit for my banking account
.
I want to bring her in, okay.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Where did all of this happen?
Oh, it's been happening, I knowbut I need to establish a
jurisdiction is what I'm tryingto say, oh, I lived in Orlando.
Yeah, but what address didthese thefts occur at?

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Well, I guess, my residence, I guess.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
That's actually going to be in the jurisdiction of
the Sheriff's Office ma'am notthe.
Orlando Police Department.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Let me transfer you over to the communications
section for Orange County.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Okay, Now is the Orlando Sheriff's Department the
one on 436?
.
Is that open this afternoon,this evening?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
The substation you're at on Pershing.
If it's Orlando Police, we'reopen primarily during the day.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
But that's not the sheriff, that's city police,
which does not have jurisdictionfor your address.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
And then there's the sheriff's department on 436.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Well, what I'm going to do is I'm going to transfer
you to the sheriff'scommunications section, and you
can determine that.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That's a lot of shit right here, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
She's calling her out on her shit.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Because my next thing will be down the child thing
and we'll have a court ordertogether.
If that's what you want to say,we'll do it and you'll never.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Well then, mom's had enough, no.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I'm not giving you another day At this point.
Casey has told her that she'sbeen missing for 31 days.
Kaylee.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Really she's had enough.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
What's happening.
I have someone here that I needto be arrested in my home.
They're there right now.
I have a possible missing child.
I have a three-year-old that'sbeen missing for a month A
three-year-old.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
A fucking month you reported that 31 days.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I'm trying to do that now, ma'am, holy shit.
Okay, what did the person dothat you need arrested my
daughter?
For what?
For stealing an auto andstealing money.
I already spoke with someone.
They said they would patch methrough the Orlando Sheriff's

(39:29):
Department, have a deputy here.
I was in the car, I was goingto drive her to the police
station and no one's open.
They said they would bring adeputy to my home.
When I got home to call them,so she stole your vehicle.
Yes, when did she do that?
On the 30th?
I just got it back from theimpound.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I'd like to speak to an officer.
Sorry for the low audio.
Everybody, Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Okay, I've got to ask you a question so I can put
them in.
Sorry for the low audio.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Everybody, it's the best we can do.
It's a 911 call.
Okay, how old is your daughter?
22.
Say what's your name, my name,her name?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Her name.
It bleeps out her name for somereason, casey fucking.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Antoine, antoine.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
I have the statement she's been partying Thin, medium
or heavy build.
Thin.
Color hair Brown.
What color shirt is she wearing?
White.
What color pants?
Oh, they're short, they're clad.
They're like pink and teal andwhite and black.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
That was very in style at that time 2008.
Did she?

Speaker 4 (40:57):
have any weapons on her.
No Plaid shorts.
Is she not telling you whereher daughter is Correct?
Okay, we'll have a deputy outto you as soon as one's
available.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you, bye, bye-bye.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
And then next will be the third call that she made.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
This is the third call here 911,.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
what's your emergency ?
I called a little bit ago thedeputy sheriff's saying I found
out my granddaughter has beentaken.
She has been missing for amonth.
Her mother finally admittedthat she's been missing.
Okay, what is the address thatyou're calling from?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
So now she's starting to tell some shit.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
My daughter finally admitted that the baby's in the
store, so now she's startingtrying to find her herself.
There's something wrong.
I found my daughter's car todayand it smells like this.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
In this situation.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Okay, what is the three-year-old's name?
Kaylee, c-a-y-l-e-e Anthony,kaylee, anthony, yes, okay.
Is she white, black or Hispanic?
She's white.
How long is she white, black orHispanic?
She's white.
How long has she been missing?
For I have not seen her sincethe 7th of June.
What is her date of birth?
8-9-2000.

(42:27):
Oh God, she's three.
She's 2005.
So it's Karen missing, karenmissing, karen, missing, karen,
isn't it Karen?
You've been standing in thecorner a month ago.
She's been listening to a monthago.
Okay, I understand.
Can you calm down for me forjust a minute?

(42:48):
I need to know what's going on.
Okay, I'm going to try and talk.
I'm going to try and talk.
Is your daughter?

Speaker 5 (42:54):
there, I'm on the phone with talk.
Is your daughter there?

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I'm on the phone with them.
Is your daughter there?
Yes, can I speak with her?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Pay attention to how hysteric Cindy is Thank you and
now listen to Casey.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Why you got me in the seat.
They're killing me, ma'am,ma'am.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Okay, if they're hysterical, what they want to
talk to you?
Answer the question.
Hello, hello, yes, hi there,she is.
Can you tell me what's going ona little bit?
I'm sorry.
Can you tell me a little bitwhat's going on?
My daughter's been missing forthe last 31 days.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Cool as a cucumber.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
And you know who has her.
I know who has her.
I've tried to contact her.
I actually received a phonecall today.
You don't fucking know.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
You know what happened?
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
She's no longer in service.
I did get to speak to mydaughter for about a moment,
about a minute.
Okay, did you guys call andreport a vehicle stolen?
She's acting like she stole alot.
Yeah, my mom did.
Okay, so has there been avehicle stolen too?
No, this was my vehicle.
What vehicle was stolen.
It's a 98 Pontiac Sunfire.

(44:05):
Okay, I have deputies on theway to you right now for that,
but now your three-year-olddaughter is missing.
Kaylee Anthony White, female.
Three years old.
Eight, your three-year-olddaughter is missing.
Kaylee Anthony, yes, white,female.
Yes, white, female.
Three years old, 8, 9, 2005,.
Her date of birth yes, and youlast saw her a month ago, 31
days, some 31 days.
Who has her?

(44:27):
Do you have a name?
Her name is Zenaida FernandezGonzalez.
Who is that Babysitter?
She's been my nanny for about ayear and a half, almost two
years.
Why are you calling now?
Why didn't you call 31 days ago?
I've been looking for her andhave gone through other
resources to try to find her.

(44:48):
You've been parting yourfucking ass off.
Can you give me the name of thenanny again?
Spell it out for me ZenaidaZ-E-N-A-I-D-A.
Last name Fernandez Fernandez,hyphen Gonzalez.
I think the officers are here.
The officers are there.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yes, All right.
So, as you can tell from the911 call, Cindy is now from the
third one, in full-on panic modebecause Casey in a in another
room tells Lee that Zanny hastaken Casey 31 days of where's
my kid at?
Right, so she overhears Caseytelling Lee hey, the fucking

(45:30):
babysitter has stolen Kaylee butshe's been clubbing, living it
up, just doing her fucking thing.
So Cindy is in hysterics, asyou can tell from the 911 call.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I'm in hysterics.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
And I know I'm crying and Casey is like ugh, mother,
you're so fucking dramatic.
You know she didn't really wantto talk and Casey says that the
number she has for Zanny is nolonger in service and that she
had been allowed to talk toKaylee that morning and she was
fine.
She would say that she had beenreceiving instructions from
Zannie through MySpace on how toget Kaylee back and then she

(46:04):
would get her back for good onKaylee's birthday, which was
coming up because it's in August.
Police arrive and they get allthe information on Zannie and
they have Casey take them towhere Zanny lives.
They get to the apartmentcomplex and guess what?
Zanny's not there.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Nobody has lived in that apartment since March.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Doesn't add up nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
And nobody by the name of Zanetta Fernandez
Gonzalez had ever lived there.
They pulled surveillancecameras to see if Kaylee was on
any of that, and there wasnothing there wasn't.
She had never fucking beenthere, right there was, casey
hadn't been there.
Yeah, nobody's been there.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I'm doing my old man fucking thing with a cane right
now I'm like fucking, fuck, sonof a bitch.
I'm so mad right now.
I'm so mad right now I'm so mad.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
So police see that Casey is a big old fucking liar
and they ask her more questionsand start looking into her a
little more.
So of course you know I'm notnowhere near.
Let me take a drink, lindsay,I'm empty.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I need more here.
Drink mine.
I'm going to drink mine, areyou sure?
Yes, I'm going to drink mine,are you sure?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
yes, I'm going to drink my.
I'm going to drink my seltzer,and get another one.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
You just dumped a whole shit load of shit on me
and I can't.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Maybe I ain't even dumped half on you okay.
I'm drinking yours, then, andwe're going to make another's,
another's more mine so of course, like I said, she had had this
job at Universal Studios andthey look into that and they see
that she's doesn't work there.
Okay, they don't tell her that.

(47:43):
They know that and they're likeall right, take us to Universal
.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I'm still drinking over here, I'm just this is on
body cam as well.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
You can see it in a few documentaries on youtube um,
there's one on peacock, there'sone on netflix, there's
everything about case me.
Anthony is out there and I knowyou guys probably already know
the story, but seeing the shitin real time just makes it so
much more real.
Okay, so they go down touniversal and she gets to

(48:15):
security.
She tells okay, so at first thedesk guy is like nobody by your
name works here, okay.
And she says well, I need youto check again.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
So she's all the fucking way there with the lie
in front of the cops yes tryingto lie in?
Trying to what?
Does she think she's prettyenough to make this fucking
thing work right here in frontof them?
Yes, trying to lie and tryingto what?
Does she think she's prettyenough to make this fucking
thing work right here in frontof this dude?
You're gonna say that I workhere, right.
Hang on, look at my body, lookat me.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
So I guess through because she was there with cops.
The security ends up just lether go.
So she's like, all right, I'lltake you down to my office.
And she's like waving at peoplelike, hey Sue, hey Marge, how
you doing, you're fuckingkidding me right now.
She's going down, going downand it's like a maze of offices.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
We've seen some of them.
Marge is over there, like myname is.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Cindy Bitch, who are you?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
My name is Lisa.
I'm Snow White.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
My name is Ethel.
What are you talking about?
Oh, you're Universal.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, whatever dude, I'm working in the Harry Potter
area.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
My name is, you know, Frank, so she takes him through
like this maze of offices,because we've seen a little bit
of what Universal looks likebehind the scenes when they do
the Halloween Horror Nights.
It's like so Jesse and I got 18month passes about five years
ago and we were going all thetime and we decided to do
because with the premiere passyou get one night of halloween

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horror nights.
So we go, we take the boys andwe're waiting in line for these
haunted houses, but they haveeverything moved, yeah we're out
the backside lots and parkingand the stuff.
It's shit that you've never seenbefore, so it's wild, but you
knew it was there.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
It was just that's behind the building, the facade.
It's still like insane to seethe behind the scenes.
Shit yeah, the machine, yeahbehind it.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
What is happening so?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
they're walking behind it.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
What is happening?
They're walking and I just wantto let y'all know that the what
was it?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
the universal monsters house scared the actual
living it made you feel likeyou were in black and white,
didn't?
It, oh, everything was blackand white y'all, I was clawing
at jesse's back house of athousand corpses, though I
didn't do that one, me and Silaswere done.
The tits.
I loved that one.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
You and Landon went through that one, right, yeah,
and me and Silas hung back forthat one because we were still a
little shook from the UniversalMonsters house.
Like Silas was freaked out, Iwas freaked out.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
We did it.
I'm walking through House of athousand corpses and I'm like
casey anthony because I'mcalling all their names and
waving at them while they'retrying to scare the piss out of
me.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
So I guess I'm casey anthony too.
Now, if silas hadn't beenscared, I would have went
through that one, because I knowall the characters I know I
love rob zombie films yes, itwas.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
You would have loved it.
You would go now.
You would go now yeah becauseyou can always hang on to my arm
and beat the shit out of mewhile you're going through it.
Jesse, why the fuck?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Bam, bam, bam, you get me kicking ass, but that
universe, because all thecharacters were so close to your
face.
That was intense, though.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
It was very intense.
The classic horror shit wasintense.
It was really intense.
Thousand thousand good time.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I'm waving at everybody Like y'all are my
buddies over here, and we hadalready done Killer Clowns from
Outer Space.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Love that shit.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
And Landon's like all right, they're going to pop up
right here.
And they pop up and I stillscream Because he had watched
the YouTube video on the wholeshow already.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
He knew the choreography, he was ready.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
But we love the Stranger Things house.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Don't do that, guys, don't watch the videos?

Speaker 1 (51:57):
No, and I don't, because I want to be scared.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
You know that these people aren't.
These are like level one houses.
I call them levels.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
And Silas is fist bumping all the chainsaw guys on
stilts.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
They're not going to touch you.
We've done level three before,though.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Dalton went with you guys too, dalton's there with us
because he was like I'm notscared, I'm not gonna be scared.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
He was like level three that we did where they
were actually kind of grabbingyou and shit, that was a cool
haunted house, that was ingatlinburg or pigeon forge.
Where were we at?
There was like a level threethat we did and they were
actually the haunted house thatwas in, uh, gatlinburg.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I was like don't touch me.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I have a child.
You have a child, I have achild.
I was using Silas as a humanshield.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Women and children.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I have a child, all right, y'all we had to segue
because we were over here cryingand shit, I'm over.
Okay, so she's taking themthrough all of these fucking
offices and then they reach adead end.
She turns around and looks atthem and said, okay, I lied, I
don't worry.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
The whole fucking time.
They should have known theywere like this is bullshit, uh,
bullshit.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
They already knew.
They did know, but they wantedto see how far she would take it
.
Oh, they were just having fun,they were just having fun.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, but there's still speculations of a child
some fucking where that is notfound.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
So Casey was arrested on July 16th 2008, and she was
charged with child neglect,obstruction of justice and
making false statements.
Fuck.
So Cindy is talking with policeabout how she had found the
trash bag in the trunk and therewas a box of pizza covered in
maggots, and changing heroriginal statement about how it

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smelled like death, and now itjust smelled like rotting pizza.
Yeah, so they're like, butrotting pizza and death.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I have two different Is this fucking woman, not in
fucking prison right now.
You won't tell me I'm not goingto tell you.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
But Cindy stuck with this story.
As you can tell, she's alreadyenabled several of Casey's lives
, so she didn't call the cops onher.
She did the right thing in thataspect, because God knows how
the I don't even know.
Okay, well, there comes a point.
There's a breaking point rightthere, because God knows how the
I don't, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Okay, well, there comes a point, there's a
breaking point right there.
You have to do something.
And where's this baby?
You know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Because at that point she had stolen 31 days.
She had stolen money from hergrandmother who did press
charges on her.
She had stolen money from Cindyand who who knows who else.
I I didn't get a lot of thatinformation in my research, but
this girl was living somehow fortwo years without any no income

(54:45):
no income just her looks yeahand her amazing personality so
the car was taken in forevidence and a dog trained in
smelling decomposition he wentnuts while smelling the trunk
and there was also a stainingsituation that happened.
So they tested that and ittested positive for

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decomposition and chloroform oh,she was trying to oh oh, there
was also some hair that they dnatested and it was.
It was either cindy casey orkaylee's.
Well, it was untreated virginhair as that of a child and had
a decomposition band around it.

(55:28):
Now there's a lot of scienceout there that I watched in
documentaries that debunked that, because hair band
decomposition on hair bands canactually be just if the hair had
been plucked out.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
But there's no denying human ass decomp in the
backs, in the trunk of a vehicle.
There's no denying it.
You can't get over it, youcannot.
There's nothing that you candeny, right there.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Well, the family computer was seized to be
investigated as well, and Googlesearches were found on how to
make yeah, yes, it was how tomake chloroform.
Cindy said oh, that was me,sorry.
I was trying to look upchlorophyll because my dogs have
been eating bamboo in thebackyard and I wanted to make
sure it wasn't going to harmthem.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Chlorophyll instead of chloroform, so she went the
other way.
She had to learn that forworking at Universal they were
doing something there.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
No, this was Cindy.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh, cindy, that was saying she was making the search
.
Yeah, I'm just saying yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
But it turns out Cindy wasn't even home when this
Google search was made, andonly one person was home, and
that was Casey.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Oh, so I was already new.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
So that search was made under Internet Explorer,
and Internet Explorer was notused by young people anymore.
By that point, we hadn't usedInternet Explorer.
What were we using, do youremember in 2008?
Firefox.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, that's right Now we're using Chrome mostly.
Yeah, Chrome is me.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Me too, so it seemed justifiable, because only older
people used Internet Explorer.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
But if that was what pops up when you're on the
computer.
Well, that's what she's saying.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
She said she was searching chlorophyll and
chloroform popped up and shejust clicked on it out of
curiosity.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Bullshit, but it's in her car, dude.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
But Cindy wasn't even home.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
It wasn't.
That's why I keep going back towho it really fucking was.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
But like I, said they only searched the Internet
Explorer, they didn't searchFirefox.
So said they only searched theinternet explorer, they didn't
search firefox.
So all right.
So casey's in jail at thispoint and cindy and george go to
visit.
Cindy asked casey in jail hey,what does zanny look like?
because at this point they stillthink that this person zanny

(57:51):
has the baby right she said youknow, I may have to pick her out
of a lineup while you're inhere.
Casey was like god, mom, willyou just leave me alone?
And would not answer her.
But then she did give her adescription and she actually
like, even describes her as aperfect 10.
Like what?

(58:11):
The who the fuck says that.
Okay, so she was like half halfuh, fucking disgusting, I know
she was half black, half puertorican, perfect 10, and she was
25 years old.
Yeah so, but casey, all thatshe was really concerned about.
If you hear her jail calls, Idid not pull them up because
fucking twat yeah, she actually.

(58:33):
All she was really worriedabout is getting Tony's phone
number.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
You're going to make me see this.
I'm going to say the C word shenever asked about her daughter.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
She was a see you next Tuesday all day long.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I'm going to drop a C word in this one.
I'm going to drop it.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
All she was really concerned about was getting Tony
Lazaro's phone number.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Like a fucking Irishman, like the Irish beaver
on your Bucky shirt.
Right now I'm going to drop theC word.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Bucky the beaver he's my best.
So we were in Helen, georgia.
What was this three years ago,when we got these?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
And we bought matching Bucky shirts Me, jesse
and Silas, because we went up toHelen that year, yep and we
back.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
On the way up, so I'm wearing it today Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
So there actually was a real Zenaida Gonzalez, not
Zenaida Fernando hyphen Gonzalez.
But there was a real ZenaidaGonzalez, but no Zanny the Nanny
and the real Zenaida actuallyfiled a defamation lawsuit
against Casey.
Because how dare you, casey?

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, I hope her fucking TikTok brings enough
money to pay her.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
So Cindy and George visit Casey and Jill again and
tell her that it's being widelyspeculated that Kaylee is
actually dead.
And guess how Casey responds tothis.
Surprise, surprise, that washer fucking words.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Really.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Oh goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
And Cindy asked her well, what do you think has
happened to Casey?
And she says you know what?
She's not far and she's okay.
So Casey hires a lawyer namedJose Bays who writes a letter to
the police saying that Casey iscooperating and can we get her
a bail.
So the bail was set at $500,000and Casey gets out with an

(01:00:22):
ankle monitor to her parents'house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
So this has got to be the best fucking lawyer since
Johnny Cochran.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I think he actually worked on that defense scheme.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I may be wrong about that, so I mean honestly, how
the fuck can you defend this?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
How do you defend this at all?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Oh you're going to be so mad.
Okay, so the media is at CaseyAnthony's house or at the
Anthony home 24-7 and the publicis outraged.
Casey would be arrested againfor writing more bad checks and
the parents boat or somebody Idon't know if that was the
parents actually, I'm sorry.
Somebody posts bail for thatand she's back home and she was

(01:01:06):
actually arrested wearing a findKaylee shirt that second time,
yeah.
Oh, she's on Her parents hadgotten find Kaylee merch and
they even had it like on a bassboat why you keep flipping me
and when I tell you some shit.
Later on you're gonna be like,how the fuck, why the fuck did
they have a bass boat?
But we're gonna save that for alittle later, okay you're

(01:01:28):
hitting me with some shit,lindsey, they're on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
So she's all team baby now.
And all right, she's playingher bullshit and there's, take a
drink.
I've well, I've done finishedtwo of these fucking buckets
over here, take a, take a sip,take a sigh I can't, I can't,
okay, I will.
I need more or a nap all Idon't know, I'm not ready.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
On December 11th, kaylee had been missing since
June.
Okay, this is December 11th.
A utilities meter reader namedRoy Kronk found a human skull
while he was out in the woodstaking a pee break.
He had actually first foundthis skull in August, but the
report went uninvestigated.

(01:02:16):
And reports say that it wasthree times that he made this
call about this same fuckingskull in the same fucking
location, for fuck's sake.
And finally, on December 11th,it was investigated and this was
only about a quarter mile fromthe Anthony home, really, and
this was only about a quartermile from the Anthony home
Really.

(01:02:36):
The skull.
It had duct tape around themouth area no, lindsay and it
was in a laundry bag.
Well, it was in a trash bagthat was around a laundry bag
You're killing me and theremains had a Winnie the Po
blanket wrapped around it.

(01:02:58):
These were all items from theanthony home.
The poo blanket had been fromkaylee's bed set and the laundry
back was a part of a pair thatwas sold and the other one was
in the anthony Fell in the homePoo.
On December 19th, it wasconfirmed that these were the
remains of Kaylee Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
This is the worst oh bother I've ever had.
This is so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
So Casey is back to jail and this time is charged
with first degree murder.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Finally, fucking finally.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
The family is harassed daily and Cindy is
sticking by her daughter, but,George, he wasn't doing very
well with all of this shit atall In January 2009.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Hang on, I'm gonna make some of this Vista.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Bay in there with it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Oh, it's fizzy.
You can hear it, do you hearthat?
Isn't it beautiful.
I got to quit, dude.
I got to break this shit.
I know Pooh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
So in January 2009, george goes to a hotel room in
Daytona and makes a cocktail ofprescription pills and alcohol,
and this is all an attempt totake his own life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Really he knows too.
He's just like this is all anattempt to take his own life.
Really he knows too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
He's just like this is fucking garbage well, there
was a wellness check, I assumemade by cindy, and his stomach
was pumped and he survived, ofcourse, because he is in the.
He actually wrote like a fivepage suicide note.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
All about how she had fucked up his life and the kid.
I'm not 100% sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
But, like I said, we're going to dive a little
more into George.
I got to go a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
What I want to know right now is how the fuck is she
on TikTok, Lindsay?
You won't tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
I'm not not gonna tell you yet.
I'm so sorry, so we're gonnafast forward to may 24th 2011
when the trial begins.
This was as big as the oj trial, plus add in the social media
era, and it's everywhere.
I remember, wherever I went,that trial was on, and I forgot

(01:05:16):
to mention this at the top ofthe episode when this all went
down and Kaylee was missing.
My bestie, cindy, has adaughter named Kaylee.
And she called me just crying.
She's like, have you heardabout this and this and that?
And that's when I startedfollowing it.
And she's like I just thishurts my heart so much more
because I have a daughter namedKaylee.

(01:05:37):
Yeah, and my bestie's daughterwas not much older than Kaylee
Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
No, all that.
I remember y'all having like weneed to have a Cindy day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yes, she's cool.
Yes, and you know, I remembereverywhere I went that trial was
on.
I mean, at home I was watchingwill and grace and golden girls
reruns on loop, so I didn't keepup with it personally, but I
saw things about it constantlyon facebook I remember watching
some of this shit too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Yeah, I mean, I didn't because I wasn't at that
time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I wasn't quite going to where I go now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I think it was a year later and it was on the tv I
remember the trunk shit and Iprobably sped you up on some
things over here and I'm I'msorry but everybody already knew
and speculated and it's.
It's all right here already.
This woman better be in fuckingcarcerated right now.
Lindsay, I swear to God I'mgonna drop an elbow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Dude, we're going to wrestle if if elbow dude, we're
going to wrestle.
If she is not in prison, Iswear to God we're going to
wrestle.
Like I said, it was talkedabout on Facebook and everybody
at work was talking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Go ahead.
I've lightened it up.
You go because I'm ready again.
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
And because they were the grandparents, george and
Cindy were able to sit throughthe whole trial, even though
they were also witnesses, andthat's usually not allowed.
But they, even though they werealso witnesses, and that's
usually not allowed Um, but theywere told from the get go that
they were not allowed to showany emotion or they would be
thrown the fuck out.
Okay, so remember that ifyou're ever rewatching trials

(01:07:06):
and this is very common in anyjudicial setting you're not
allowed to show emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
I feel like you shouldn't be there though.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
You can't just look at a trial and be like that
motherfucker ain't showing noemotion, so they must be guilty
or they must have done this.
They must have done that.
No, it's not allowed.
You're not allowed to showemotion.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Don't bring me to the gallery because I'm going to
fucking yell.
Dude, I'm going to be up insome shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
If you're on trial, sometimes the lawyers will give
you sedatives and shit like that.
So you won't naturally showemotion, really, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Just I'm here chilling, I'm on my Zanny.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
People wanted to be in this courtroom so bad that
there was a daily lottery on whocould get in.
People were sleeping outsidethe courtroom, like back in the
day how they used to wait onconcert tickets and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Yeah, I remember seeing the wallet out front
there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yes, and there were full-on fistfights.
If they didn't win that lottery, yeah, all right.
In the trial, her lawyer, joseBaez, did not deny the fact that
Casey was a liar.
But she had become a liarbecause of the lies that she had
to tell constantly to cover herfamily's transgressions.
So at this point she's alreadytrying to cover up things that

(01:08:21):
she can't even tie togetherright, see Casey claims.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
And still to this day Like the Universal shit, you
know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Still to this day, casey sticks by this story.
Okay, that her father triggerwarning raped her from the time
that she was 8 until she was 12.
Then she says her brother wouldsexually assault her until she
was 15.
Now she does say in aninterview that he never raped
her, but he assaulted her sothere was feeling touching

(01:08:48):
things like that, inappropriatethings that should never happen
between a brother and sister.
She says that her mother wasthe breadwinner and her father
barely worked.
She says that her father hadstolen 60 K from her mother's
401k and he lied constantlyhimself.
And I have some side notes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
We're going to need receipts.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I'm like hold on hold on just a second.
I need receipts, I needreceipts.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I'm like hold on, Hold on just a second.
I need receipts, I needreceipts.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Lindsay.
So here is a little more onGeorge.
When George was a cop in Ohio,cindy said that he needed to
make some more money because hewanted her to stay at home with
the kids and she had a degreeshe was an RN.
But he wanted her to stay athome with the kids.
And she had a degree, she wasan RN, but he wanted her to stay
at home.
And so he went to work for hisfather, who had a car lot, but

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they didn't get along very welland he ended up actually shoving
his father into a plate glasswindow and hurting him.
So there was some strife there,some drama, yeah, and then some
bad investments were made andthe car lot was lost completely.
Okay, so when they moved toOrlando, he starts getting, you

(01:10:08):
know, like I said, security jobafter security job, he hurt
himself twice.
After security job, he hurthimself twice, and on the second
time he hurt his knee badenough that he needed extended
rehabilitation.
Well, during thisrehabilitation he decides to get
some credit cards in Cindy'sname and maxes them out while
gambling online.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
And then Some bullshit in the family coming
out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Yeah, so after Kaylee was born he received a big
workers' compensation check forthat injury.
Now this compensation check wasto help pay some past due bills
and refinance their home.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Not for gambling bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Because when they moved to Orlando Cindy actually
did that on her own.
She came down and got the houseand the mortgage with a high
interest rate because George hadalready damaged their credit.
So she was hoping to refinancehis home to get a lower rate
with this compensation check.
Well, due to his gambling bills, George was like oh, this bitch

(01:11:19):
is already gone, this check isspent.
Sorry, bro, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Y'all got nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
I just left y'all with nothing.
Thanks, Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
But Cindy was able to get a home equity loan, so
basically she had two mortgagepayments.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
So she is putting in all the fucking work and just
holding her head down andpushing it to make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
But this caused them to split up for a while and when
she looked into getting adivorce, it was told to her by
an attorney hey, george is stillentitled to half the house
because you're married.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
And you're going to have to pay him alimony because
you make more money than him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Florida yeah, that's Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
So they reconciled and she used her 401k, her
retirement, to pay off all thebills that they needed to be
paid.
And now she was stuck with twomortgage payments Plus taking
care of Kaylee and Casey.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah, mom was doing all of it, all the work and
enabling at the same time,though.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
So.
So in the trial, jose Baez,this was all stuff that Casey
had told them and this is alsoin the interviews that I watched
on I think it was Peacock andYouTube where she would say that
the day that Kaylee wentmissing, that she had got up,

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made breakfast for Kaylee andshe wasn't feeling very well and
she went to lay down with CaseyI said that previously in the
episode and she was awakened byGeorge who said where is Kaylee?
He shook her awake and saidwhere is Kaylee?
So they start looking for herfrantically and then George

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appeared with Kaylee's soaking,wet, limp body screaming you did
this.
What is your mother going tothink?
Basically, saying, this is whatthe defense was saying that
this was an accidental drowningand that George had disposed of
the body.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
That's a fucking lie.
She put him in the fuckingtrunk.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
So supposedly Casey did not know what to do and she
didn't know what he did and hejust made her believe that
everything was going to be okayIf she left the home.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
And she can just forget about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
You're good Go on what.
And after that is when she wentto stay at Tony's, and then she
says she was in constantcontact with her father and he
made it seem that Kaylee wasfine, but she wasn't allowed to
be around her Per hisinstructions.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
That's bullshit, yeah .

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
It's all just a fucking.
It's still a mystery and hercell phones actually back this
up.
But she did.
She was in constant contactwith george daily yeah, but what
were they saying, you know?
She was calling but it doesn't.
but it doesn't matter.
As far as her mother wasconcerned, she hadn't heard from
her in 30 days.
Yeah, it's still so.

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Of course George denies therape allegations and the fact
that he disposed of Kaylee'sbody, so the prosecution could
not produce enough evidence toactually pin the murder on her.
But their theory was that shehad chloroformed Kaylee, duct

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taped her airways and wrappedher in the blanket and put her
in the laundry bag.
Yeah, because you wanted to gofucking party Then stuffed her.
What it fucking is.
Lindsay Then stuffed her in thetrunk and then the body started
to smell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Decomp yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
And that's when she took the body to the woods and
then the body started to smellBig comp.
Yeah, that's when she took thebody to the woods and then
abandoned her car.
That was the prosecution'stheory and I think it's pretty
close to the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I think it's very accurate.
How can you not put the vehiclewith the baby?

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
That smelled like this how can you not?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
And they could not get the smell.
What the fuck is?
What else is it?
Lindsey?
We're fighting, dude, we'rewrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I swear to god cindy's theory is that I'm gonna
fight you, but I'm gonnawrestle you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Let's do that, that leg wrestle thing where you lay
on your back and you hold yourlegs up no, no, you hurt your
toe earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
So Cindy's theory is that Kaylee did accidentally
drown and Casey freaked out andgot rid of the body.
George thinks that Casey wasgiving Kaylee Xanax because she
would sleep for like 12 to 15hours at a time and would wake
up with dark circles under hereyes.
And what's the street name forXanax?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Zanny, zanny, yeah, zanny was the nanny.
I almost wanted to do that, butI didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I was just he thinks that Casey accidentally
overdosed her and then disposedof her body.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Where's the chloroform coming to fucking
play?

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Okay, so this is what happened with the chloroform
theory.
So your body, when it'sdecomposing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
It produces that.
It produces chloroform, you'reright.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
So that is where, when they tested the trunk oh
you're right, I'm rubbing myeyes and I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I need another bucket of this shit over here to drink
.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I'm almost done, I'm rubbing my eyes and I'm just.
I need another bucket of thisshit over here.
I'm almost done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
I'm going to drink what I was left.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
So the prosecution thought that this was an open
and shut case.
So they didn't do enough work.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Nobody it's it's done to me.
She should fucking be rottenright now, lindsay is she
fucking in prison.
Is she in prison?
Lindsay is to me.
She should fucking be rottingright now.
Lindsay, Is she fucking inprison?
Is she in prison, Lindsay, Isshe fucking in?

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
prison.
The defense painted a betterpicture and brought up way more
reasonable doubt, and on July5th, after 10 hours and 40
minutes of deliberation, thejury found Casey Anthony not
guilty of murder.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I don't care if you got a hurt toe or not.
Dude, we're wrestling.
She got some satisfaction outof it.
I'm going to say the C word,dude, I'm going to say it See
you next Tuesday, see you allthe way to unt.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
She got time served for her misdemeanor charges and
was set free 10 days later, onJuly 17th 2011.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I'm going to say aunt , with a C in front of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Now the jurors, their names began to get revealed and
they started receiving deaththreats, threats.
But the jury does say that ifthe prosecution had showed them
actual evidence of kayleeactually being murdered, they
would have.
But they didn't.
They didn't have any evidencethat she was actually murdered

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because her body had been sodecomposed and water from the
swamp.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Here it's florida it's in the back of the car,
motherfucker.
It doesn't matter, it's in theback of the car motherfucker, it
doesn't matter, it's in theback of the car.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Yeah, there it is you hiding a body and riding it
around until it fuckingdecomposes in the back of your
car is good enough to me itdidn't, they couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Who the fuck is this?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
jury.
I'm going to wrestle them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
But you know that it was actually said in the trial
by a neighbor that Casey hadborrowed a shovel from them and
tried to dig holes in threedifferent spots but couldn't
because of the roots, and hisneighbor testified to this and
her cell phone records show thaton the day that Kaylee went
missing that she called JesseGrund the guy that she convinced
was Kaylee's father, tonyLozaro and her mother six times

(01:19:08):
in a row.
So it is speculated that shecalled her mother six times as a
alibi situation.
Acting like she had tried tocontact or that she had actually
accidentally overdosed, her orkaylee had accidentally drowned
and she called her six times ina row, freaking out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
So this cunt wanted to fucking party and was putting
her kid to sleep and her kidpassed away from it.
She threw her in the in thetrunk so she could go and party
and just said, oh, just forgetabout that, That'll be alright,
For you know.
Enough days for her todecompose in the trunk and then

(01:19:49):
bury her and be like oh, my carstinks too much, I can't party
anymore.
Let me get rid of the car.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
I do think that the prosecution's theory was correct
.
I don't think chloroform wasinvolved.
I do believe Xanax was involved.
Once you was correct.
I don't think chloroform wasinvolved.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I do believe xanax.
Once you said that.
It makes sense to me.
I do believe the xanax wasinvolved and that bitch had the
nerve to make up the name xannythe nanny, because xanny was the
fucking nanny.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Oh exactly, come on, dude.
Because, as you know, we'veraised a child together and I've
had four I'm very off.
Two and a half tothree-year-olds do not sleep for
13 to 15 hours.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
They don't Spend time with your kids.
Dude, be a better human-assbeing.
And this bitch is still fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Or her mother could have just let her go through
with her wishes as to give thatbaby up for adoption.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
That would have been way better off.
There's so many people wantingto have a beautiful child.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Now it is said because Casey got hit with all
kinds of lawsuits afterwards andshe went bankrupt because she
couldn't pay Jose, she couldn'tpay the people that were suing
her for defamation.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
There's no ruptured bank.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
The bitch ain't never worked, I know.
So it is said that she paid herlawyer bills with some sexual
favors.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Of course she would.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
She probably has her only fans, like like that's an
affidavit, let's find, let'sfind her only fan like a man
literally says I heard jose baez.
I'm disgusted as fucking humanbeing right now a man literally
says in an affidavit that heheard jose baez say you owe me
three fucking blowjobs, and sawcasey naked and giggling in his

(01:21:22):
office Now after, of course, shehad death threats on her
immediately after she wasreleased.
So she went to live in a churchsanctuary for a while and then
that was found out.
So she actually has lived andworked for a member of her
defense council for the lastlisten here, women.

(01:21:43):
Uh, what's it been was 2011 forlike 14 years now women and
that's what she's talking aboutin her tiktok.
She has literally been a pi andworked for a pi firm since 2011
listen here is legit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
I want to say this out of dude's perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Pat McKenna, I think, is the name.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I keep saying women and I'm not trying to call you
know people can have theirfreedom and do whatever the fuck
they want to make money in, butif that's the only thing you
have going for you in life,you're a piece of shit to me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
And also I want to say this Women, if you get
pregnant and you do not wantthat child, do what you can Do
what is legal to not have thatchild in your life.
And mothers of teens who getpregnant unexpectedly respect

(01:22:42):
their wishes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
It's not like we're living in the 60s y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
You cannot force a person to become a mother if
they do not feel that they havethe mental capacity or the
character traits in their selfto be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Don't force it on and it may be the st augustine
distillery brewery over herefucking with me right now, but I
just I agree completely withyou and I'm glad we're on the
same page right here.
I really am.
Don't do it.
There's so many avenues,there's fucking thousands of
avenues to you that you canfacilitate a human being way

(01:23:22):
better off.
If you don't want that humanbeing, don't put them on fucking
Xanax and then throw them inyour trunk.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
And I'm going to say, as a person, I don't think that
I am the best mother in theworld, but I try very hard and
all my kids, every single one ofthem were accidents but I
wanted them.
There was never a doubt in mymind that I didn't want to take
care of this child.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
It's got to be the most selfish, self-centered
human being I've ever heard ofin my life, right here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Well, I mean, her parents had a big part in that
shit too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
They enabled.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Enabled.
Yeah, If your daughter comes toyou and says I want to give my
baby up for adoption, have herdo all the therapy and shit
during her pregnancy to makesure that's the right decision.
You can do that.
There is free services for that.
But let her give it up foradoption.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
So many avenues, yeah , thousands of avenues, not just
adoptions.
There's so many different ways.
There's so many different ways.
There's so many differentthings.
You know you can do so much.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Oh, and one thing I wanted to mention also the death
penalty was sought out to beginwith and it was presented to
Casey and they made a plea dealfor her to admit her guilt to
where she would get 20 years,and she turned that out.

(01:24:46):
She said that she would ratherbe on death row fighting for her
innocence than actuallypleading guilty to the death of
her daughter.
She would also share becausewhen she went to jail she went
straight to solitary confinementand she would tell a cellmate
or not?
So solitary confinement, youdon't have anybody in the cell

(01:25:09):
with you, but they're on thesame block.
So she would startcorrespondence with this other
person that was also in solitaryconfinement under the fucking
jail when she was in solitaryconfinement.
She would say that the memoriesof her abuse would become more
vivid.
And that's when she spoke outto an advocate, because when

(01:25:33):
you're I mean when you're ontrial, you you get, you know,
all the things that you need tohelp paint the picture of why
you did something or whysomething happened, or why you
may be innocent.
You know, and, um, there arepsychologists that do agree that
she was abused, but she was not.

(01:25:55):
They didn't.
They said that she wasn't likementally ill, she was fit to
stand trial, and all thatbecause obviously she was there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
I feel like there's some dirt there her family is
shady as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
There's some dirt, yeah and maybe that's why all
this is all being tucked awayand just let it fly, she fucking
because I mean even with kidfucking xanax, okay, so I just
gotta tell you, in the openingstatements that jose Baez
presented, he literally saidthis is quote she would have her

(01:26:26):
father's penis in her mouth inthe morning and then have to go
play with her friends at schoolat the age of 13.
First of all, you're 13 yearsold.
You're not playing with friends.
You're you're.
You're in your emo period at13,.
Most of the time, or you're acheerleader, you got either one.
You're either in your goth emogrunge stage, like we were.

(01:26:48):
We were in our grunge stage at13.
You can't.
This is like one of those veryweird and weird, but he never,
ever presented that again in therest of the trial when, when
George was on the stand, what hedid, what Jose did, was make
him read pieces of his suicidenote, but he never asked him

(01:27:09):
about the sexual abuseallegation.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
He thought he was on the way out.
So whatever he put on that note, was it?
He thought he was done.
But I'm just saying after theopening statements.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Jose never talked about the rape again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
He didn't find anything else.
It was all bullshit because shewas lying her fucking ass off.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
I don't know there's.
It's a mystery.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
But the lies, though, are just like I said.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
The jury said that there was not any evidence that
Kaylee was actually murdered,and there wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
I want to know from everybody that's heard all these
words today, she's?
The most hated woman in theworld and she's out and she's
doing her shit because at thispoint now you haven't dropped
this bomb.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
She's one of the most I'm going to talk about it you
haven't dropped this fuckingbomb yet.
She's not in fucking prison,yeah, and she dropped this
fucking bomb, yet she's not infucking prison.
Yeah, and she's on tiktok now.
I mean, everybody else knowsthat, but you, jesse I'm
dropping an elbow.
Okay, I'm not gonna say she'sthe most hated the the one of
the other most hated I'm gonnatalk about next week oh, next

(01:28:15):
week there's another one, that's, I have to get in the seat
again about.
Yeah, we're gonna talk aboutsome doomsday shit next week.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
I'm really not.
I'm not on the fence.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
No, I'm not on the fence at all.
I know she killed her daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
I feel like the Xanax was a real thing, and I feel
like she definitely stuffed herin the trunk and rode her around
for 30 days at least.
Yeah, I do think that theprosecution other than the
chloroform?

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
I do think that the prosecution other than the
chloroform I do think okay.
So what I think?
This is my humble opinion shegave her the Xanax, she
accidentally overdosed her, soshe wanted to make it look like
a murder.
And that's where the duct tapecome into play, because if she
was already gone, if Kaylee hadalready left this world, there
was no need to duct tape her.
But I think she did that tomake it look like a murder,

(01:29:03):
because murderers use duct tapethe baby had expired in the
bedroom, she wrapped her up inthe blanket duct taped her to
make it look like a murder man,fuck rode around with her in the
carfor a month till she started to
smell for a month.
Well, it wasn't a month beforeshe abandoned the car.
It was like two weeks InFlorida baby in a trunk.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Yeah, you got a week.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Yeah, Well, the one that we talked about the last
one he had decomposed, and thiswas in June and July.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
And just like, yeah, I mean he was ooh Florida
weather.
If you perish in Floridaida,you're decomposing a whole lot
faster than you will anywhereelse.
The humidity is just bad, itreally is, and you're just gonna
, you're gonna melt down inflorida.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
You come here and experience this weather for sure
well, that's why it I mean,like I said um roy cronk.
He had made those calls inaugust and it wasn't
investigated until December.
Maybe that's why they neverfound the body for that, but he
said that she was alreadydecomposed then and he had used
the stick and like poked itthrough the eye hole of the

(01:30:10):
skull.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Because I mean honestly think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
You're really not really thinking it's something.
You're not thinking it's real.
You're not thinking it's afucking Halloween decoration.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Oh yeah, maybe that's what I was going to say.
Maybe that's why the EileenWuornos only got charged with
six instead of seven, becausethat dude probably melded down
in the woods somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Yeah, Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Florida, the FLA.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
I mean, you've got the elements and you've got wild
animals.
We got bears, gators,everything.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Yeah, I would put Florida up against Australia any
day of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
dude we got shit that will sting you, bite you, poke
you, prod you, and I'm scared ofAustralia.
But Florida is just as scary.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
You cannot walk in the woods Stinging nettles.
I mean we have, they got them.
Spiders, though they got bigspiders, but we got big snakes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
They got spiders the size of our house.
They got big snakes too.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Yeah hang on, but I'm putting them up against them
because we got sharks we gotgators, we got everything.
Skeeters and mosquitoes arejust as bad to me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Well that's why I mean I'm not advocating for
murderers whatsoever, please,but you can just put their body
in the ocean or the oh, thedexterxter style, the.
Dexter style, everglades,whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
I mean, murderers are sloppy around here because
we've got resources to get ridof bodies.
It's probably the most.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
And there's pig farms .

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
They get rid of that shit too.
It's sort of the capital forthis shit.
We've got so many.
There's so many what?

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
were we looking at the other day, oh, there was a
TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Oh day, oh, there was a tiktok statistics on um the
global uh, serial killers.
America has like 10 timeseverybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
No well more than 100 times everybody else.
Okay, so we were over 3 000 andthe most in the united states
other than that just in theunited states three that was
over 3 000 serial killers andthe highest number before ours
was like in the hundreds.
Yeah, they were judging fromlike 1800s until now or
something.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Yes, and it was like everywhere else in the world,
like the top one was like 250 orsome shit it was like 150, I
think.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Yeah, it was something.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
It was something like that france I don't know if I
shared it.
Check out our instagram.
I think I shared it.
Check out our Instagram.
I think I shared it onInstagram.
But yeah, check that out.
The United States has 100 timesmore than that.
I mean, it's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Yeah, it went from 100 and something to 3,000
something, and I was like Iclutched my pearls so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
We can talk here until we can't talk anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
We have a never-ending podcast.
I hope you guys love us.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Maybe that's why true crime is really big in the
United States.
But we're going overseas in tworight.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
After next week, we're going to go to Europe.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
And I only chose last week, this week's and next
week's because they are all inhot topic, so why not go ahead
and cover them?

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Like I said, cause I didn't want you to accidentally
come across them and be likebitch and I'll be like, oh, so I
just want to go ahead and tellyou about I found this really
cool band called ape on a rocketthat's out of russia, oh shit
okay and I want to play them,but I'll wait slaughter to
prevail without a russia too Iknow they probably play together
because this band is a lot likethem.
So, if you like, like that kindof stuff.

(01:33:20):
But I'm looking forward toplaying them, but I'm going to
wait.
I'm going to wait.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
So what band are you plugging this week?

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Oh, so you're done.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Yes, that wraps up our story on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Casey, you're done.
I can't believe it, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Do not give me a pause.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
I can't believe it.
You just honestly, I'm puddled.
Whatever emotion you consider?

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Honestly, out of everybody that's going to listen
to this, you're probably theonly one that didn't know she
wasn't in prison.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
I didn't know.
I thought she was still inprison.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
She never went.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
She never actually went to prison.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
She went to jail, but she never went to prison.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
I remember watching the whole trunk thing in the
trial, never, ever finished it.
Am I the only human being?

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Well, it was drug out for several for a couple of
years.
Yeah, I gave up after I saidI'm done with this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
She killed her fucking baby and then that was
it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
And I didn't know shit Because it happened in 2008
.
The trial was in 2011.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
And it ended in 2011.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
But it was just like OJ's land.
It interrupted all our soaps.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
But I watched a little bit of it and I got
pissed off that this is stillgoing on and I gave up because
Just like the OJ thing, Guiltyguilty, guilty.
I already came with I mean Ihave been wrong, I'm a dude.
Whatever, we're going to comeup with bullshit.
And I was at the point wherethis chick see with an unt right
behind it trap flap needs to bein fucking prison.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
I mean all signs point to all of them all of them
, but I'll play a band.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
If you want me to play a band, I'll play a band.
I'm gonna talk about a bandthat we're supposed to see let's
fuck off with Casey Anthony andplug a band this week yeah, I'm
gonna go ahead and do Prophetsof Demise finally, yes, hey
Gooch hey.
I think he really goes by ChrisRourkes now.
He don't even talk about Gooch,no more.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Well, Gooch was his nickname for like 20-something
years.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
We gotta go back to the bro times.
I think he was just like.
I don't want to be called Gooch.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
And I get it.
You're in your 40s now, bruh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Yeah, he's moved up to Chris Rourkes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Chris Rourkes yeah, he's a drummer for Prophecy of
Demise and I've even jammed withhim so many times.
I've known him since I was alittle child.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Plays with Prophecy of Demise.
I want to play one of theirsongs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
I was childhood friends with his sister and hung
out at his house a couple oftimes in my youth.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Cool cap, Cool, cool, cool Cool.
The whole band's cool.
I had such a good time.
Remember when I was bumping thelast time we were at Hangar 7?

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Hangar 7.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
And I was bumping with the singer Now their genre
is death metal right.
Pretty much Old school style.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
I like old school style Death metal.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
yeah, which is like you know.
Tampa is like the originators,not really the originators.
It was like Death and CannibalCorpse and Six Feet Under.
All those bands are just out ofTampa, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Cannibal Corpse is actually from New York.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Yes, they moved to the capital of death metal.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Yes, they had to.
That's how they got theirappearance in Ace Ventura.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Yeah, which the singer actually wanted to turn
that down.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
But that was in Miami , though, right Wasn't that
location?
No?

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Remember if you watch the movie, he was traveling
around trying to get informationand he wound up in Tampa at a
show.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Oh yeah, with his nerd friends.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Always have your nerd friends First of all.
They're going to hook you upwith information.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
New England clam chowder.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
The red or the white.
Yes, the red or the white, yes.
But second of all, they're alsogoing to hook you up with some
good music, yeah,recommendations, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Yeah, and we love all kinds of music.
I got some really cool stuffcoming up.
I got some country music comingup.
I got some techno metal, I got.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
But your girl over here, your wife.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
She likes it heavy Into, he likes it heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Into death deathcore.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
You're more metalcore than anything.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
But I love me some deathcore.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'm really Operatic that new
operatic shit.
I love Lorna Shore.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
I love Left to Suffer .

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Yeah, and we like Attila, we like the trap metal
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Trap metal is fucking cool as shit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
And we're going to be playing some of that stuff too
and it's going to tie a littlebit into some of that.
So if you're into that stuff,hey, Thy art is murder.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Fuck, I love them.
Yeah, they're consideredmetalcore.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
I've hobnobbed a little bit with Franz a little
bit.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
But yes, I love everything.
I love everything from girlypop to opera.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Yeah, we like it all we really do, you know, I mean
I'm I'm a big fan of old Motownmusic.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
So yes, I do, I am too.
We have those.
You're a bigger fan, but I loveit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Yeah.
So let's jam.
Let's jam some, uh, prophets ofdemise.
I got a song for you guys andit's called suffocating the
tyrant, so check this thing out.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Y'all ready.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Here we go, oh yeah, Living underneath the moose
Cursing us maledictory Event ofwar, day of wrath.
No enemy, just corpus.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Loyalists, animals.
Yes, the dream of liberty Willbe replenished with the blood of

(01:39:00):
patriots.
Your people start to noticeDead bodies, strike low doors.
We are unity forever.
When we march together, we'llbe dying in the streets, dying

(01:39:21):
in discrimination, will be dyingin the streets, dying in
discriminant life, as if thecountry of liberty will be
replenished with the blood ofpatriots and tyrants.

(01:39:46):
Your treaty of liberty will bereplenished with the blood of
patriots and tyrants.

(01:40:10):
I'll see you next time Underall colors.
You were raised To do all thisUntil the fight has stopped.

(01:40:32):
It's my last.
Go home Until this day Is longpast.
But there's your past.
Call the guilty state a lawless, malicious players.
Run for your life.
This will be the day.

(01:40:53):
It shall unite us.
Unite us.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Burn it to the ground .
Burn one straight down yourground, your crown.
Burn it all, all this hell.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
The tree of liberty must be replenished with the
blood of patriots.
The tree of Liberty Must bereplaced With the blood of the
triad.
Like you and me, for blood,lansy, lansy, lansy, these guys,

(01:42:18):
that was a good fucking song.
It had like a Jamie Josta typefeel to it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
I was over here jamming the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
A little hate breedish.
A little hardcore on the deathmetal side.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Love it.
That's cool.
It was my jam.
Really cool.
It was my bag.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Dig that.
We'll see you guys again.
Prophets, I mean, you'replaying all the time around here
.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
We didn't miss their show last week because we were
drinking a lot.
They played in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
It was like a St Paddy's party.
Yeah, love them though.
Really cool, really cool cats.
Cool, cool, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
We have seen them in our hometown, lake City, at the
Hangar 7.
The Hangar.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
That's where it's at.
Yeah, it's fun, that's fine, wesee so many.
There's some national groups.
Come there in our little town.
It's really fun.
Yes, so small little hole inthe wall any national groups
looking for a nice little pocket, hit me up, I know, renee,
we'll get you on a show you guysfucking rock yes, yes, yes, yes
, yes, yes prophets of demise.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
Listen to their everything catalog yeah, yes,
all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
It's really fun and if you're in the florida area
they are playing, yeah, so it'sfun, really cool.
And uh, lindsey, I just want tosay you got another one next
week.
You got another one next weekand I'm not ready.
I don't know shit about thisone either, not even as much as
I knew about this one.

(01:43:46):
I was lost dude and did notknow that she was out in the
fucking world.
Oh yeah, is she in florida?

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
yeah, probably not cool.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Not cool to get out of my state.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
No, this is not right , dude.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Something's not right here.
Nobody believes it either, dothey?
No, they're all she got kickedright.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
The fuck off of tiktok as soon as she came out
every flag and every like it wasinsane.
I opened my tiktok the dayafter she had uh posted that and
it was the first thing I openedand in the next probably 20
videos that I scrolled throughwere all everybody.
What the fuck, bitch, fuck youbitch.

(01:44:30):
Justice for kaylee hashtag.
Absolutely justice for kaylee.
Justice for kaylee just flageverything offensive by her like
I said, that documentary onPeacock that I watched.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
I don't want to watch it, you don't.
No, you're not going to make medo that.
No, I'm not going to make youwatch that at all.
I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
I did that for research.
That's not what I want anybodyelse to watch, because it was
basically everybody advocatingfor her.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
So we're not really riding on any of the Casey wave.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
We're not on the Casey wave, absolutely.
There's no wave to ride.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Not, not, no, but we'll say we will see you guys
next Friday, right, absolutely,and you have a great weekend.
Happy St Paddy's.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Day.
Happy St Paddy's.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Hope you had a great St Paddy's Day.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Yeah, we're in the past, present, future thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Yeah, we record before and then we do things
after.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Yes, and thank you to all of our new listeners.
Um and the scream Queens thescream yes.
They did all the plugging of us.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Thank you Scream.
That's what we want.
We're going to plug your band.
We're going to share it to ourfans and and listeners and and
we want your fans to listen tous we play music.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
We play cool music, like the scream queens.
Yes, and I'm going to continueto share your show dates and
whatever new music or anythingthat you've got going on through
in our instagram stories.
Yeah, when it pops from here onout, we'll reshare it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Yeah and we've already done it with low.
Yeah, we're doing it witheverybody.
You know I Yosemite and Blackson tour right now.
Ooh, you remember that band?
I love them.
Would, you like to hear some ofthat band?
I would.
Yosemite and Black Lo andYosemite needs to do a show
together.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Oh yeah, fuck, that would be a great show, that
would be a great show.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Yeah, we should do that at Hangar 7 in Lake City.
So, yosemite and Black, hit meup, lo hit me up, come to Lake
City.
We got you, bro.
We're going to pack the house.
We'll see you guys next Friday,though.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Bye.

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