EPISODE 23: The Dooms-Daybells

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Jesse.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello, happy Friday, lindsay.
Happy Friday yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I guess we should probably like harmonize that one
time.
I don't know how to do it, howdo, you do it?
How do you do it?
Happy Friday, lindsay.
I don't know.
I was trying to meet it.
How you doing over there, whatyou drinking, what are you doing
?
Tell?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
me about it.
Let's do this.
Holy shit, we're diet drinkingbitches.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, it's not even.
It's like 9 something.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, babe, it's 1035.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Is it yeah, oh 1025.
It feels like 9 something.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Jesse's already been at work and I have been up most
of the morning with excruciatingpain from the lovely, lovely,
uh, the red lady.
Yeah and um.
So I've had some ibuprofen,some Midol, a half of a garden
gummy.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh, you're partying.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, and now we're drinking some Bailey's with
coffee.
Jesse brought home McDonald's.
Thank you, boo Yay, and we'rehaving a Bloody Mary, yay.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
With Hal Patter's vodka.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, Hal Patter's vodka.
Yeah, Zing zing Bloody Mary,Some pickled green beans from
the St Augustine Distillery andour sourdough starter pickle
juice.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Our sourdough starter .
It's got everything in it.
Everything in it.
I swear to God you could run aBuick on that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Everything pickled in our fridge.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You got a 1973 Buick.
We can run it with oursourdough starter.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Jalapeno juice, pepperoncino juice, banana,
pepper juice, pickle juice yes,pickled tomato juice, pickled
pepper juice.
Pickle juice yes, Pickledtomato juice pickled oprah juice
.
All of it.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's got all the juices.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And I do recommend because this Bloody Mary is fire
.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It is good, it's really good, it is good.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
The swizzle stick I made you help me find did the
trick.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It helped it.
It made it mixed together waybetter.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
That was the trick.
Well, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's all the love that comes into it, you know.
And she's like why haven't youused all the stuff that I bought
you to do these cool drinkswith?
And I was like uh-huh.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Okay, so later on we're going to do that, yeah,
the bourbon smoker.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
And you got me for Christmas.
Yes, we're going to do bratsand bourbon brats and bourbon.
Yeah, what are we talking about?
What are we drinking about?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
so we're talking about um some doomsday shit
today doomsday.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So is it like the end of the world, type shit and,
believe it or not, it's reallyrecent.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's more recent than casey anthony.
Of Casey Anthony.
After I made a Tik TOK with ourepisode on Casey Anthony with
the song of the week fromprofits of demise.
Um, this morning I woke up andin my algorithm was a female Um,

(03:00):
her Tik TOK handle is justmom's drink who was on the cell
block with Casey and said thatshe admitted to her crime.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
They need to retry her ass.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And well, they can't double jeopardy.
But now, since she has putthose tech talks out, she posted
followup videos, for CaseyAnthony is like after her, so of
course she should be.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
She's trying to keep her shit.
She is definitely.
I have not met anybody thatI've talked to about this.
She's definitely guilty.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
She does have advocators, but they don't say
that she did not commit thecrime.
They think that it was anaccidental type thing or either
that George did it.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Somebody in that household killed that baby.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yes, I do agree.
Yeah, but I'm leaning moretowards her.
I don't know.
Because there was decompositionin that car for a reason.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Exactly.
You can't deny that at all.
You cannot deny that that isinsane.
There's no damn way around that, so that happened Anyhow.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So if you want to listen to that one, it is
episode 22.
This is episode 23.
You want to cue that intro?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, we're going to do that.
Happy Friday everybody, we wewe Happy.
Friday everybody Bye Wee weewee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee

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wee, wee, wee, wee, wee it's thegummy and the baileys.
Yeah, oh yeah.
So yeah, I'm not ready for you,because you told me that this
shit was going to be worse thanthe last one.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh yeah, so I'm not ready one more thing, um, I want
to talk about from a previouscase.
We covered Gabby Petito inepisode 21.
Yeah, and her father isstarting a series called Faces
of the Missing, which will bringawareness to more missing cases
that do not get the recognitionthat they deserve.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, and I'm trying to reach out to people like that
as well, like we can put ourcontent on things just like that
to help them out, you know, andand if we can share what we got
going on, it's just allcommunity networking.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
So if you're new here , this is episode 23.
And what we do is we have adrink, talk about true crime and
then plug a band that we aredigging and we think you should
listen to as well yeah and Ifound so many cool new bands.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I can't wait.
I got some cool summer bandscoming summer can't wait, but we
gotta get through spring firstyeah, I mean it's florida, we'll
be in summer like tomorrow it'sactually cold right now.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I had to turn on the heater today it's beautiful out
right now, but I mean, I wasfreezing this morning.
Landon was getting onto meyesterday because he woke up.
He's like mom, it's 65 degreesin the house, but I was having a
perimenopause episode and Ididn't feel the chill.
Today I felt the chill.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
So from now on, perimenopause.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'm just gonna be like there you go, so I have a
question for you sorry fromperry, that's it's a little
different.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's like is that it?
I don't know whatever.
So what was you saying, sorry?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I have a question for you.
You got a question for me whatmade you feel old this week?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
oh yeah, what made me feel old this week.
This week I feel old.
It's it's more supplement stuffbecause I changed.
I changed what I was doingversus what I'm doing now, like
I'm doing like apple cidervinegar, all the good health
stuff and all that, but I gotoff all the sea moss, shilajit
and I don't know.

(07:01):
It's like an energy drop still.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm just constant Maybe you need to stick with
this.
Well, you do need to take amonth off.
Yeah, so I have to do that withashwagandha, because they
recommend that you takeashwagandha for a month and then
take six weeks off.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Other than that there are no ailments or nothing
other than just tired old manshit.
You know, I mean no Anthony'sor nothing.
You want to hear all mine?
Yeah, go ahead with yourentourage.
Lindsay has an entourage, hereshe goes.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I broke my toe last Saturday and I have stubbed it
950 billion times since then.
That sucks so bad, then, whileI'm attempting to work out with
a bad toe, the other day my handtendinitis flared up, so like
mid pushup.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
you're like yeah, you fell over Pretty much.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
It was like a fainting goat situation, with a
screen that screamed and fainted.
Yeah, um.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I can't even do that.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
That I can't even all the perimenopausal symptoms
this week where I am going tosleep freezing and waking up
sweating, and all theperimenopausal symptoms this
week where I am going to sleepfreezing and waking up sweating.
And then it was, you know,almost that time of the month as
well.
So I've just been blah.
I don't even know how I gotthrough the week, but so yeah.
I feel sorry for you.
Taking about.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm so sorry that you're old.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
That you're older than me.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I am older than you, at least some old ass people.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Not even a full year older than me.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, 40's great, I'm not bitching.
Is this a chance to bitch aboutsaying that you're old?
This segment here, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, I'm just saying it's been rough.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's been rough.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
No, I mean old and no , I'm just saying it's been a
rough week.
It's been a rough week.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, it was a rough week.
No, I mean old and tired.
I guess that's about me.
Most of the time, though, hellI'm.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
And you know what, stephen, one of the times that I
stubbed my toe was so stupid.
I was putting on my jeans andsometimes, you know, females'
jeans are a little different.
You know jeans are a littledifferent.
You know they're a littlesnugger when you get them on.
But they, you know they kind ofform and fit your body after
you get them on.
So you have to kick out alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I kicked the bed frame with the bad toe another
one never done that fuckinganother one son of a bitch you
know, I broke my toe too, like amonth before this I know you
had like a whole.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I broke two.
Yeah, I kicked the shit out ofthe grill.
No, I kicked the shit out ofthe bottom of that grill like a
month before this, I know.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
You had like a whole string of bruises and you don't
even know how.
No, I kicked the shit out ofthe bottom of that grill where
that wheel is.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, we're doing brats later.
I can't wait, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Don't kick the grill.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I will not kick the grill, but go ahead.
Lindsay Fire, this bitch off.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Are you, yeah, are you ready?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
uh, no, I'm not ready , but I'm just saying you should
strap in, strapping on.
Here we go, all right.
Laurie cox, yates la joia, ryanvalo daybell is that one name?
That is one fucking name wasborn in june of 1973 to Janice
and Barry Cox.
She had two sisters, Summer andStacy, and two brothers, Adam

(10:09):
and Alex.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
And every name in the whole damn county for one name.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, that will become clear into the story.
And Alex, he will become a hugepart of the story, but we'll
get into him a little later.
Her family lived in SoCal andshe grew up in the LDS community
.
This is the Church of JesusChrist of the Latter-day Saints.
Latter-day Saints, yeah or alsothe Mormon Mormon Church.

(10:35):
Okay.
Lori was a cheerleader and iswhat you would kind of call an
introverted extrovert, meaningshe was quiet unless she knew
you and were in her friend group.
Her group says that she wasfunny and loved to make people
laugh.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So doubling up.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I've never been that dedicated to anything in my life
, all the Jesus that she everneeded.
She planned on attendingBrigham Young University after
graduation this was in 1992, butshe does not end up attending.
She instead marries her firsthusband, Nelson Yates, a year

(11:24):
after high school in 1992.
That marriage dissolved veryquickly and she moves on to
husband number two, WilliamLaGioia, and has a son with that
husband named Colby.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Now didn't Mormons like have a bunch of wives or
something?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Well, that depended on what chapter you were in.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
And it depended on your leader, and because we're
going to do a whole Mormon deepdive in the future, because
there's a lot of true crimeinvolved just in that community
alone.
Wow, yes, so we're going to doexplain all of that and one
podcast that I do I'm going torecommend at the end because
they explain a little bit morein depth into the Mormon beliefs

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in this particular case andthat was the created religion
basically in the 1800s Right.
Well, that marriage didn't lastlong either, and in 2001, she is
on to husband number three,joseph Ryan, and in 2002, joe
and Lori bring their daughter,tylee Ryan, into the world.
Also around this time, I'mguessing she snapped right back

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after that pregnancy, lori wasin the beauty pageant circuit.
You're beautiful.
She competed in the Miss Texaspageant but she did lose.
And when she was asked aboutwhat makes her tick, she says
being a good mom and a hardworker and she said she was

(12:50):
basically a ticking time bomb,which, remember that later on,
okay, she was also a contestanton the famous game show Will of
Fortune.
Yay, can I buy a vowel?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
No, pat, you get no vowels.
Well, her name has all thevowels it does.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And she won $17,000.
Wow.
In that competition.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Now, apparently, being on this show was a
prophecy from God himself.
Yes, she told her husband thatGod told her she would be on the
show and would win.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Really.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Now, her and Joe's marriage did not last long after
this and they would divorce in2004.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Wow, she was a divine being now.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, not yet.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, might as well be because God told her to do
that and it worked out.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, so I grew up in a lot more church than you did,
and this was a conversationthat was just very common, where
people would say God spoke tome about this, god spoke to me
about that, god told me this,god told me that yeah, reaching
for miracles, if you are notbrought up.
in that it does sound strange,but to me, me it's like oh, it's

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another person saying god toldhim to do something, you know?
Yeah, now a custody battle oftylee would go on for 12 years.
The court order would havespecific days that each would
have tylee and he would have herfor two weeks over the summer
and had to live within 100 milesof each other.
So they had been living inTexas, of course.
But after the divorce, loridecides to move to Arizona, so

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Joe had to move as well.
That's part of the divorceagreement.
In 2006, lori moves on tohusband number four, named
Charles Vallow.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Damn, she racking them up.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Get them girl, get them girl.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Now, this one would last for about 10 years.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
But now they're in Arizona.
You know she's married Charlesand Joe had to move to Arizona
as well, but Lori's not meetingher requirements.
So Joe files a motion againstLori saying that she is not
meeting the visitation courtorder and he does not see Tylee

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for all of August in 2006.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
And he had moved over there.
So he could be closer to her tohelp them.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, he's doing everything.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
The co-dad shit.
But hold on, we're going to,we're doing everything, the
co-dad shit.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Hold on, we're going to, we're going to um our
co-parenting shit.
He's already.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I feel like he's full dad right now.
Good.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
So Joe wanted her to be arrested.
Uh, he wanted her to bearrested, fined and to pay for
his legal fees.
Lori says that she would choosedeath over letting Joe see her
daughter, because she was sayingthat Joe was molesting her
children Really.
And after this the court doesdemand that she go under

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psychiatric evaluation, Eventhough Colby and Tylee would say
that Joe was sexually andphysically abusing them.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Really.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
It is speculated that Lori planted it in their brain.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Now on one hand, Either way.
If the abuse allegations aretrue, her saying I would choose
death before letting him see mykids is understandable.
Yeah.
But if they aren't, she is.
She's looking like a veryunwell person.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, and planting shit into your kids is abuse as
it is.
You know you're planting thatimage into them and eventually
they'll actually think that thatshit's really happening.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's just as bad.
Don't plant shit.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
No, in August 2007,.
Joe was able to see Tylee againand he is going to the agreed
upon drop off spot to returnTylee again.
And he is going to theagreed-upon drop-off spot to
return Tylee home.
While walking back to his car,lori's brother, alex Cox,
appears and says hey, we need totalk.
Then Alex pulls out a taser andtases Joe right in the chest

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twice.
A witness intervenes and callsthe police.
There is a more detailedpodcast on this case that I do
recommend, done by the lastpodcast on the left.
They have a four parter on thiscase and they go into a lot of
detail about the Cox family, butI'm going to give just a little

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snippet.
Um, alex and Lori had a verystrange and a bit of a sexual
relationship.
In fact, the entire Cox familywere just a little too touchy
feely with each other.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
So she was just all in that.
Yes, and, like I said, I thinkit's part one.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I think it's part one of their four part series on
this case that they do go intodepth into the Cox family.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
So I do recommend that podcast, and then she's
trying to bestow that same kindof bullshit and drama on her own
kids too.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, because of her past shit.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinkingbut Alex would do anything for
Lori.
We'll just put it that way.
Okay, there will be moreexamples of that to come.
Alex would serve 90 days ofthis because of this incident
and while he was locked up, hewould send letters to a friend

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requesting that they sendpictures of Joe because his
fellow inmates would love tohang out with him sometime.
Now, remember, there are sexualand physical abuse allegations
against a minor child.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's all over the place.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, he's threatening, joe.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Pretty much is what he's wanting to do, and he's
doing it beyond the jail, but hewas only there for 90 days.
I mean, I wouldn't even wrote aletter in three months, you
know no.
I guess three months does seemprobably like a long time.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I mean well, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Now Joe would suffer from heart issues from this
attack for the rest of his life,but that wouldn't be for very
much longer.
So fast forward to 2018.
Timeline's going to jump backand forth.
Just stay with me, okay.
Okay.
So fast forward to 2018.
Joe Ryan passes away from a I'mdoing quotation marks heart

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attack.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
And his body wasn't discovered until a wellness
check was done.
A week later A neighbor smelled.
A neighbor it was actually theneighbor's dog smelled a foul
smell coming from the house andit was like scratching the door.
So the neighbor was like goingto get her dog and she smelled
it too.
So she called.
She called it in.
Lori would refuse to claim thebody and didn't tell anyone in

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his family for a while.
His sister, annie, would findout over a month later that no
one had claimed his body.
Now Annie's relationship withJoe had been strained because
she was visiting one day andthere was a leak in the roof and
she said Joe just lost his shit.
Like was a leak in the roof andshe said Joe just lost his shit
Like.
I heard this in an interview.

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Yeah, and it was yeah.
And Joe lost his shit.
She thinks it was because hewas kind of embarrassed.
They had just bought the houseand here it was leaking, but it
kind of it just made her notreally want to be around him
anymore.
So Annie did not have thatrelationship with Joe anymore
and she really hadn't seen thefamily since that incident,

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which was about 10 years priorto this happening.
So Annie goes out to visit Tyleebecause that is her niece you
know and of course Lori is thereand she says Lori was acting
very strange and Lori andTylee's relationship is strained
and there was just bad vibesall around See, lori had become

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obsessed with the end of timesand had become a very unhinged
doomsday prepper.
Y'all better be good.
Jesus is coming.
I ain't kidding you, and it'sall she talks about.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
She even talks about Dude.
It's all she talked about.
She even talked about dude.
It's gonna happen in it.
Wait and shit ain't happened.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yet she even talked about getting in the car with
her kids and driving off a cliffto save them from tribulation
now our our whole perspective onthat and lindsey agrees.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's happened so many times.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, we think the end of the world has happened
several times, in differentcivilizations, different spots
in the world.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's done, happened.
So if it's going to happen, itprobably happened to them in
this story, but I don't know yet.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Well, there's a little interesting thing that
will come up, but, like we weretalking about the other night,
we're watching 1923 right nowand it portrays a lot of what
the Native Americans wentthrough under Catholic abuse.
And to me, our descendantscoming over from Europe and
interrupting their whole lifewas the end of the Native

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American world.
Yeah, because they knew it.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
That was their tribulation.
They went through it Exactly ithappened for them and it knew
it.
That was their tribulation,they went through it, exactly it
happened for them and it'shappened.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
It's just happened in several different civilizations
.
It happened for the Mayans.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
It happened for Egyptians, it happened For Rome,
for Romanians, it happened inPompeii.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
It happened in the Tower of Babel.
Yeah, all that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's all happened everywhere and that was their
end of times.
It really does China?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
It is true, there was an end of the world for them.
Yeah, japan took it over.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it happened.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
And us when we bombed Japan.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah.
You know it was the end, for atthat time, everything changed
from then on right?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
But anyhow, like I said, I'm going to repeat what
she told Annie.
She talked about getting in thecar with her kids and driving
off the cliff to save them fromtribulation, and in my opinion,
that's when DCF would havegotten a little tip from me.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, you don't need kids around you, if you think
you're going to commit suicide,to go to heaven?
Is that what she was thinking?
Pretty much.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't want to go through tribulation but we she
wants.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, we're close enough with god.
We can just go ahead and killourselves now and we'll be all
right.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
They got it figured out over there, right shit.
She also says to annie, to herface, even though this is her
brother, that the world wasbetter off without joe in it.
Like I said, if the allegationsagainst him were true, maybe I
agree, but that was for thecourt to decide.
Yeah, and I'm not saying thatthe court always does 100% good

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job.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Fuck no.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
We've dealt with situations.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Last week.
Sons of bitches.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh, I know, but I'm just saying.
I mean, there was a 12 yearcustody battle and you would
think that in that time periodit would be determined by them.
If these allegations were true,if he was a shitty human being.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
He would have stepped out and been like wait a minute
, I'm going to, I'm going towind up getting fucked up in
some bullshit that I've done.
He would have stepped out.
You know what I'm saying.
He wouldn't have followed andpursued if he was being shitty
to them kids.
He'd have been like I betterget out because she's going to
put me in prison over what'sreally happened.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And I don't want to go either way on that because,
as an adult, colby is stillsaying that those things were
true, but we'll move on fromthat.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I'm going to get that too.
Yeah, but human nature is stillshowing.
He's pursuing, trying to stay.
He ain't trying to just staywith his kids so he can keep
doing what he's being accused of, right.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
So Annie was horrified over all of this, to
say the least, and she cut offall contact again.
She was done so before Joe hadexpired.
He and Lori, you know they hadthat long ass custody battle.
Before Joe had expired.
He and Lori, you know they hadthat long ass custody battle.
And while her current husband,charles, was also having a
custody battle with his ex-wifeCheryl, they had two boys

(24:32):
together and honestly this justsounds like constant turmoil in
both households.
Yeah, I mean, that's custodybattles, just horrible.
We went through it.
The judge actually combinedboth cases so that all could
meet in the same day knock itall out.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, all the family bullshit.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, and I mean that's probably smart, I mean it
probably saved both sides a lotof money and a lot of time.
Yeah, right so, cheryl, shestarted catching on to laurie's
weird in time obsessions about ayear into laurie and charles
marriage, and that was around2007.
And there was even a courtorder at some point to put

(25:11):
cameras in Lori and Charles'sresidence because of strange
behavior, but no footage wasever found to be incriminating
from that.
Now Charles owned a successfulinvestment company and was out
of town quite a bit.
So some of the weekends he wassupposed to spend with his kids,
he and was out of town quite abit.
So some of the weekends he wassupposed to spend with his kids
he would be out of town, but thekids would stay with Lori, but

(25:32):
they would say that she wasn'tvery involved with them.
And this is all while they werestill living in Texas before
Arizona.
Back to when Lori and Charlesmoved to Arizona, they adopted a
son named JJ.
Jj belonged to his great nieceand she had been unable to care
for him.
So his sister, kay, who was thegrandmother, did for a while,

(25:56):
but JJ had severe autism and thebusiness her and her husband
owned together did not permitthem to give JJ the care that he
required.
It's tough.
So they asked Charles and Loriif they could care for him,
because Lori Charles worked, butLori was a stay at home mom so
she had time.
She had previously been ahairdresser and she even had

(26:17):
like a small one built into herhome, but it wasn't a full time
thing.
So even if she had did havehair to do that day, she was
still at home.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Right A little side hustle.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
So they say yes and they legally adopt him.
Now, at this point, everythingseems great.
Jj fit right in with the family.
Colby and Tylee loved him, likelove loved him, and the Vallows
got a monthly check for hiscare and Charles got him a
service dog as well.
So the Fallows then make thedecision to move from Arizona to

(26:49):
Hawaii.
And everyone I mean who doesn'tlove Hawaii?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, you want to go, I want to go.
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
So they moved to Kauai.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And everyone was thriving.
Along with Charles InvestmentCompany, they had a little side
business which was like a juicebar, because who doesn't want to
go to a juice bar in Hawaii?
I mean because it's like major,major tourist attraction.
So that was probably banking.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah Good, it sounds like they were getting
set up though.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Well, remember I told you that Lori was a devout
member of the LDS church, sowhen her and Charles got married
, he converted from Catholicismto Latter-day.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Saints, latter-day Saints, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
And they did find an LDS church to attend in Hawaii.
Now it's 2018, the year thatJoe would pass away.
They would move back to Arizonabecause it was just better for
them to be there due to CharlesInvestment Company.
Okay, so they're moving arounda little bit.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
They're moving around .
There's a lot of shit, turmoiland things going on, and just
Now this is when laurie's mentalhealth would really become
questionable.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Okay, she tells charles that she had been
reincarnated and had been sentby god to spread the word of the
second coming of christ.
You know that old chestnut likea million people haven't
already said that and shebelieved that the end of the
world was going to happen onJuly 22nd 2020.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
See I know that that shit was going to fucking
transpire.
I know that shit was going tohappen.
I knew it.
I knew it and I was callingthat shit earlier.
I knew it and I'm fired up now.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
What was crazy about the crazy bitch was 2020 was
kind of the end of the fuckingworld covid 19.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I blow the breath of god on you.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That shit was so funny to me the tiktoks were the
shit that came out of that thechick with her lashes.
And then what was the other one?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
the fucking the wig, the fucking wig.
And then he's all like and thisshit's flying dude if you have
not seen those, just google,google that.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
You know it was a crazy time.
I mean, we had Murder Hornets,COVID-19, the Tiger King.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Maybe for Latter Day Saints.
That was it.
Do you remember when?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
we all got a stimulus check and we were all
simultaneously watching theTiger King together.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, as a nation or as a globe?
Yeah, carole Baskins, at beachFucking beach Car.
Carol Baskins, that bitch.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Carol Baskins Killed her husband, whacked him.
Didn't happen, it was happening, carol.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Baskins.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
But you know what, lori?
We're still here, girl, we'rein 2025.
We didn't go nowhere Our worlddid change.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
But I mean, I want to find out.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
But your timeline was off because the world shut down
in March and you predicted June.
So fuck you, Lori.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
She was off.
She was off, but now.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
And it wasn't actually her prediction, her
reincarnation.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Did her fucking reincarnation do anything good
for humanity as far as herreligion?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You're about to find out.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Okay, okay, okay as far as her religion.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
You're about to find out, okay, okay.
So she also says that she isone of the 144,000 that will be
saved.
She told Charles that there wasan evil demon living in his
body, named Ned Schneider.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Ooh, Schneebly.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Ned.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Schneebly Ned.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Schneebly, that's who I thought of immediately.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
You swear to, god Swear to.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
God.
School of.
Rock.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Schneebly Schneebly, not Rob Schneider, but Ned
Schneebly.
It's both it's both Rob.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
So the demon had a name, and its name was Ned
Schneider.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Ned Schneider.
And she would tell others thatshe was waiting for a call any
day that he would be dead.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Now, Jesse, what would you say if I came to you
with this the power of Christcompels you.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Would you be exercising the shit out of me
Something?
Hang on, let me stir up thisBloody Mary.
I have exercised the demons.
I'm getting off in this BloodyMary now because we're having
some fucking fun right now.
I haven't now Because there issome bullshit fitting to happen.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I'm eating one of my pickle green beans.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Well, cheers Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Here's a little MSR for you guys.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Crunchy.
Is that you exercising theSchneider demon there?
Mm-hmm, this Bloody Mary,better exercise something.
All right lady.
This bloody Mary, betterexercise something.
All right lady.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
But seriously, that's all that I mean.
Like, honestly, think about itreal hard.
If I came to you and said thatI was one of the chosen 144,000
to be saved, God had appointedme as a disciple to spread the
word of his second coming andthat you were now a demon, what
would you, honestly, what wouldbe your feelings All jokes aside

(31:53):
like what would your honest?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I mean you hit me with a bullshit stick at that
moment I'm going to look at youlike you're fucking shot out.
I'm going to ask for you toaffirm that in some kind of way,
because I would want to knowwhy even if we were of the same
faith even if we were of thesame faith, Even if we were both
into church and we're bothhearing the same teachings of

(32:15):
this shit week after week.
Yeah, but at this moment I'vestepped away from charismatic
religion to begin with.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well, no, I'm just saying, but think like Charles,
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
God why you got to put me there.
I don't know how to do that,because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
I've been raised that way and I still think that if
somebody approached me with that, I would think that they're a
crazy, motherfucker bullshit,just like charles did.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Okay now, charles.
I mean, you would have justbeen like are you fucking
kidding me right now?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
yeah, no matter what I have ever believed in my life,
and I I mean I was raised froma very small child and hearing
this same type of shit everyweek, and I would still look at
somebody and and probably callhelp service from the age of
about 10, you started reallyseeing that I started seeing the
other side like, oh, this isbullshit.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, I'm saying you age about 10, you're probably
actually about 13 there was thisokay?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'll talk about it some other time, maybe when
we're covering the end of worldtheories that we have what, what
, a lot of what really broke meto think.
This is wild, this is nuts.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's not human.
It's not human to be you kindof feel like you're, you're
being brainwashed a little bitright, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
So now, charles, he loved Lori so much, but now he
was scared for his life and hefiled for divorce in 2019.
Apparently, lori also told himthat she was going to kill him
and that angels would dispose ofhis body and she would get away
with it.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
You better fucking run, dude.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Holy shit.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Jesus got it coming for you ain't shitting you Now.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Lori leaves at this time while they're separated.
Give the plant some laughs.
She thinks that she can justkill this dude and angels are
going to dispose.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Oh, it gets wilder.
Angels are going to come downfrom heaven and eat you up and
shit you out into a golden leafof Jesus.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I want that on a t-shirt the golden leaf of Jesus
.
I want that on a t-shirt, okay.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
The golden leaf of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
No, the whole thing.
Angels are going to eat you upand shit you out into a golden
leaf of Jesus I want all that ona shirt, an olive branch, go
ahead.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So I'm so fucking ate up with this bullshit.
I'm sweating.
All right, we're not halfwaydone, I'm sweating.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Lori leaves to go back to Hawaii at this time and
she tells her friend April thatshe had met down there when they
lived there.
She tells April all of the sameshit, but she also tells April
that she will be one of the144,000 to be saved as well,
that April will.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
She knows.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Even though April was also a member of the LDS church
and she thought that this wasquite insane.
It was some bullshit, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Would she?
Would she be like, wait aminute, wait a minute.
God is telling me.
Now, girl, I don't know, you'regoing to be okay.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Angels are not going to eat you and turn you into
people Hold on, we have a wholeother side story to get into.
So yeah, let me finish thispart and then we'll go.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
How do you visualize, though, somebody actually
telling you this shit?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh, I've heard shit like that my whole life.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, but I mean, she just like so seriously
charismatic toward being likeI'm going to pump this into your
head and you're going tobelieve it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Now let's ratchet it back.
Just let.
Nobody that has spewed somebullshit like this in my life
has ever said that they weregoing to kill somebody and have
angels exposed to the body.
But I have heard a lot ofpeople say that they were chosen
and this, that and other.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, I've heard that and I've been, yeah, and I've
been hearing about their handson you and they put one in the
air and they're just like.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm gonna convey this and then they you know, this is
holy shove you, so you fallback yeah you're slaying in the
spirit I want to watch you shakeme in the name of jesus bam,
and you go to shaking and shit,yeah, yeah, that shit hurt all
right, so well, so well.
On this visit, april noticedthat Tylee was sleeping a lot

(36:14):
and she seemed depressed.
Now, this was weird becausebefore that, tylee had just been
a very engaged person, but she,tylee, was a teenager by now,
and we all know teenagers gothrough some weird shit, so
we'll put that on the backburner.
But why do you think Lorichanged so much in the year 2018

(36:38):
?
Well, I'm going to tell youBefore that, other than the
quote from her at the beautypageant, where she was like I'm
kind of like a ticking time bombonlookers and friends would say
that she was amazing.
Even Colby says that she was anamazing mother.
But Colby's grown.
At this point now I think he'slike 22 and he has already met
his wife and got married.
So, but 2018 was a real turningpoint for Lori.

(37:02):
So in 2017, lori had startedreading books by a doomsday
author named Chad Daybell, andhe lived in Rexburg, idaho.
Chad had a small publishingcompany and also appeared on
several podcasts.
Some of these you can't findanymore and you'll know why

(37:23):
later, but mm-hmm.
So Chad wrote fictional booksabout the end of days that were
loosely based on mormon religion.
He wrote over 25 of these books, and some of them contained his
near-death experiences andcommuting with people on the
other side from his experienceas a grave digger.

(37:44):
Now he was a legal grave digger, not, right, not?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
some sick reason he keeps pushing this whole thing,
but as being fictional, right,he's not pushing it as being
fictional.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
The books are listed as fictional.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Because there's no fucking way that this is
actually real, because there'sno evidence to support that it's
real.
I got you, correct, I got you.
I see a romance coming.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
He believed that he could receive visions from
beyond the veil.
Chad was originally from Utahand was born in 1968.
Now, chad really did have twonear-death experiences for real.
One was a cliff jump when hewas 17, and he claims that when
this happened, he jumped intoanother dimension and saw a

(38:26):
different world.
Then, when he was in his earlytwenties, he was hit by a large
wave in the ocean is somewherein California and almost drowned
upon, which he was visited bythe ghost of his grandfather,
who showed him the future.
Now I don't know about you youprobably have as well but I have
had several, several near deathexperiences and I've never seen

(38:50):
any of this shit.
But I guess I'm not as specialas Chad.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
No.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
The Chad.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, so what it is, though what I think it is is
that you're in that dramaticexperience and you're trying to
get past the drama that itcaused you, so you create some
bullshit.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Like I have almost drowned four times alone.
That's just that.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
But wouldn't that be a cute story if you said that
you know God came to you andsaved you in the middle of that.
But or you just remember whatreally happened and just be like
, well, that was dramatic, Ineed to fucking pay attention
and not try to drown anymore.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
You know anymore.
You know I'm saying you knowthat's what really good swimmer
and I was just determined tobecome one, and in that that was
very young.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I mean, that was just my first four that I can
remember.
Does my take make sense, though?
Like yeah, so is that's whatpeople will actually do?
They'll just be like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
This was horrible for me to remember, so I'm gonna
put something pretty into itwell, the only thing that I have
from all my near-deathexperiences is a moment of shock
like, wow, this is fuckinghappening, right.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
And then it was like once I was okay, it was over
with yeah, going through, goingthrough the motions is nowhere
near as bad as remembering thatthat could have been the end
right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
It's a shock like I would almost like freeze in time
right, each time your fightyour fight or flight versus the
remembrance of you almost dyingis worse.
You know I'm saying right yeah,because there's quite a few more
after that, but those were moreinnocent ones when I was
younger.
But, like I said, with all ofthem combined, the most that I
can remember is just a feelingof shock, yeah, like is this

(40:24):
really happening?
Like you're in denial,immediately, almost.
Yeah.
After all of this, he prettymuch thinks that he has a foot
in both this world and the otherone and has found that he was
changed forever.
So Chad was married to a womannamed Tammy, who he had met at
Brigham Young University, andthey married in 1990 and had

(40:48):
five children together Five, wow.
Rebuilding the army RebuildingGod's army, for sure, tammy
worked at the Parks Departmentand Chad had been a, like I said
, he had been a gravedigger, andthen he became an author and
created him and Tammy togethercreated the publishing company.
Now he would go on to predictthat there would be an

(41:11):
earthquake in Utah and afterthat is when a supposed World
War III would start and all thatdoomsday kind of shit.
And even though he wrotefiction, he actually believed
his own bullshit.
Okay, now the Daybells hadlived in Utah until 2014, when
Chad received a vision from Godthat they should move to Rexburg

(41:33):
, idaho.
This was going to be the newJerusalem Rexburg, idaho.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Potato land.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
We're going to rebuild the whole religion here.
All-grotten potatoes it's myfavorite potatoes, all-grotten
potatoes.
Yes, there you go, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
So in October we're back in 2018 now, in October
2018, lori and Chad met at anLDS conference in St George,
utah.
Lori came with her friend,melanie Gibb.
Melanie says that upon Lori andChad's meeting that Chad tells
Lori that they had been marriedin a past life meeting that chad

(42:12):
tells lori that they had beenmarried in a past life.
Now chad would also say that hehad.
They were married in severalpast lives, but chad had 31 past
lives and lori was like, oh mygod, well, I only have 21, but
that's amazing, like it was.
They know all that shit anddivine beings here and so they
were both married and chad wouldcreate what he would call a

(42:38):
secret portal into her closetwhere they could communicate
spiritually, but this wasactually through burner phones
oh okay, chad a little dirtgoing on in there in the
background there.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Jesus told us to do this behind our spouses, his
backs, yeah but they weren'tdoing anything.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
It was spiritual.
Oh yeah.
And, like I said, I'm going tosay it again Listen to the four
parter from last podcast on theleft.
Um, myself personally I don'thave, cause I still have an
actual full-time job, but thelast podcast boys, that is their
job.
So they have a lot more timefor research and that's why I
love listening to theirs,because they're very in depth.

(43:17):
So once again recommending that, okay.
Moving on, another thing aboutChad is that he thinks that he
can judge people on the amountof light or darkness that their
spirit contains.
So Lori asked Chad to do ajudgment or an evaluation on her

(43:37):
family to this light and darkscale.
So he sent her an email onOctober 30th containing his
evaluation.
He rates Tylee as 4.1 dark or DD standing for dark and JJ as a
4.2 L or light.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
So he can look into everybody's soul.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh yeah, Look, I'm rolling my eyes so hard right
now.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I love these divine beings.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
If the numbers were within twos and threes, they
could change sides, but if theywere four or higher, that means
that's where they would stay.
That means that they had made acovenant with the light or the
darkness Period.
So Tylee was on the dark sideand would never change.
She had now become a fuckingSith Lord and JJ was a Jedi.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Okay, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
If I was a Jedi, I'd be a Samuel Jackson
motherfucking Jedi.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yes, I don't know.
You know, I'm all about me,some Yoda.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
He is cool, but I like Samuel Jackson.
We need more Samuel Jackson,jedi shit, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I'd probably be Ewan McGregor.
I love him.
What is his Obi-Wan?
Yeah, I was like what is his?
name.
Like I'm not, you know, haven'twatched that shit a million
times.
So, charles, I don't know whyshe had Charles evaluated
because they were gettingdivorced, like why do you care?
But Charles was a three lightand Joe was on the dark side.

(45:05):
Joe was now that Okay OnDecember 5th 2018, lori and the
dark side.
Joe is now that okay.
On december 5th 2018, laurieand chad appeared on a podcast
called time to warrior up, wherethey would talk about their end
time beliefs and how to preparefor it.
I think it was called it's likethree p's, like prepared people
podcast or some shit.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I don't know, but it's now deleted and you'll see
why I had to go away, did it?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
so laurie and chad would basically become leaders
of a small doomsday cult afterthis and would refer to the dark
spirits as zombies and notzombies, how we think.
Not like night of the livingdead, the walking dead, but more
what we consider a possession,but they believe that they were
the chosen leaders of the144,000 souls that would survive

(45:52):
the apocalypse and Alex Coxwould be the destroyer, the
destructor.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Well, destroyer, I know.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
But, that is what they would call him for real.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Really, that's no bullshit, wow.
So Melanie Gibb says that bothChad and Lori would say that
both of their spouses would diein car accidents.
Melanie saw the relationshipgrowing between Lori and Chad
and just straight up asked Lori,why don't you get a divorce,
girl?
And Lori was like we can't dothat.

(46:24):
We're chosen leaders.
But in early 2019, lori woulddisappear for like two months
and leave the kids behind andCharles was worried.
And this is around the timethat she told Charles that she
was chosen we're back to thistime period.
Okay, that she told Charles shewas chosen and that she could
talk to the dead and that shewas a demon or he was a demon,

(46:47):
excuse me and all that jazz.
And that she was a demon or hewas a demon, excuse me, and all
that jazz.
She also told Charles that ifhe got in her way, she would
murder him.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
In the name of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
In the name of Jesus.
Right, okay, and Charles wouldcome home one day and like he
was, you know, coming from beingout of town and he was trying
to get his vehicle and all that,and he discovered that his
money and his kids were gonewhen police were called.
Lori just tells the police thatCharles had cheated and lost

(47:17):
his temper when being confrontedwith the allegation.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Oh yeah, so lying has nothing to do with Charles.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
It's on nothing to do with their religion record it's
on police record what Lori toldCharles about the whole.
I will murder you shit, Wowwhich I don't understand.
Isn't that grounds for beinglike Baker acted?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, when you're telling somebody that you're
going to murder them, and everybit of this goes against the
whole religion that they're soin love with.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Exactly Well, kind of , yeah, mormons are different.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Well, my understanding still.
It's the same God, though Imean.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Right, but they have.
They're.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
so, oh God, like I said, they have to rewrite it to
make it sit.
We're going to cover all ofthat, yeah, but this is bullshit
.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So well, she went back.
She goes back and forth toHawaii a lot, okay.
So she stayed with her friendApril again and tells her, tells
April, that Charles was alreadydead because that demon or
zombie inside of him you knowNed Schneider had took over.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Oh so so we can just go ahead and whack him now and
it won't matter.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So she asked April to join her little end times cult,
but she would have to leave herkids behind.
And april was like nah, girl,I'm good, love you, you know,
but no thanks.
By the way, charles had askedfor laurie to get mentally
evaluated.
She did oblige and she wascleared.
Yes, really so she wasn'ttalking that shit while she was

(48:46):
getting evaluated that's whatI'm saying is she was playing
the whole different side.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
The good mom the perfect woman yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
But you know, he was done and he was scared for his
fucking life and she had thatend date locked down and
continue to prepare for it.
And this date was given to herby Chad Daybell.
What was it June?
What did I say?
June 2020?
Given to her by Chad Daybell?
What was it June?
What did I say?
June 2020?
Yeah.
So we're in 2019,.
I think at this point, Right.
Yes.
Okay, so Charles had began tolive separately from her,

(49:21):
obviously, and on July 19th 2019, charles went to Lori's to pick
up JJ for school at 740 AM andwas shot dead by Alex the
Destroyer Cox, the Destroyer,the Destroyer.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I like the Destructor , though, from Ghostbusters.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh, yeah, yeah, but they call him the.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Destroyer.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Now Alex called 911 and claims that this was in
self-defense.
He said they got into a fightover Lori.
Supposedly Ty Lee came atCharles as well with a baseball
bat.
Charles took the bat from herand hit Alex in the back of the
head.
That's when Alex shoots himtwice in the chest.
Jj had been in Charles's rentalcar this whole time and Lori

(50:05):
literally walked right pastCharles's dead body with Tylee,
gets in the rental car and takesJJ to school like nothing ever
happened.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Wow, but he had pulled up with the gun already.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
So he was ready.
Well, hold on, you know whatI'm saying?
Yeah, and when she returned sheseemed very chill.
She was actually like makingjokes with the cops about how,
oh my God, we just moved here.
I bet the neighbors think we'recrazy.
Hi, neighbors.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, it's on the body cam.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
And okay, this is a.
Lori Bella was a beautifulwoman and the police are just
like you can tell, the giddyover her.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
They're Googling yeah .

Speaker 1 (50:43):
This is the second time already.
Lori's our third, cause theyhad to put cameras in her house.
Right already laurie's ourthird, because they had to put
cameras in her house, right?
Joe died, yeah, and that's andnow charles is dead.
Yeah, okay, here we go.
So she would tell police thather and tyler heard the gunshot
but didn't see it, and alex didnot face charges for this.
Really, yeah just had him onlock so laurie reaches out to

(51:09):
Charles' sons about the death oftheir father through text
message and never did tell themthat it was by the hands of her
own brother.
I think she told Colby, her son, that it was by heart attack.
That he just dropped dead heartattack right in their fucking
driveway.
And then Colby shows up becausehe's, you know, concerned for

(51:31):
his brother and sister and getsthere and then finds out that it
was actually alex inself-defense.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah but it wasn't self-defense, he had the gun
ready oh, absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Laurie was anticipating a million dollar
life insurance payout fromcharles's death, but to her
dismay she would find out thathe had changed his beneficiary
to Kate, his sister, thegrandmother of JJ.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, good.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
On July 22nd, lori either returns JJ service dog or
post it for sale on Facebook.
I've heard both and butbasically she was saying he
didn't need it anymore and hewasn't that attached anyway.
A seven-year-old autistic kidisn't attached to a dog.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
That's his world.
That is his world.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Period.
It could have been a lizard, itcould have been anything.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
And that child would have been absolutely attached.
So then Lori takes the fam andmoves to Rexburg, Idaho, also
taking Alex the Destroyer withher.
And like I said, Chad had toldher that Potato Land was going

(52:43):
to be the new Jerusalem.
I'm sorry, idaho, we love youand we love your potatoes.
I'm sorry that Chad.
Daybell and we love yourpotatoes.
Yeah, I'm sorry, the ChadDaybell is from your area.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I apologize that's where all the McDonald's fries
come from and the all-greenspotatoes we love McDonald's
fries and all-greens potatoes.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yes, now when they get to Rexburg.
Jj would be enrolled in school,but not Tylee, because she was
had supposedly already beenhomeschooling Tylee, and Tylee
was 16 or 17 at the time, but JJ, he was only seven.
Okay, jj was seven, wow.
And Tylee would last be seen onSeptember 8th 2019 at the

(53:25):
entrance of Yellowstone nationalpark.
Remember that Lori, jj, alexand Tylee had all went that day.
There is a picture of that andthat is the last picture and the
last known appearance of Tylee.
Meanwhile, on that same day,chad is upping Tammy's life
insurance policy to the max.

(53:52):
On September 22nd, melanie Giveand her boyfriend, david Warwick
, were visiting Lori and hisfamily, and David saw Alex
carrying JJ into the apartmentwhen he asked to see JJ the next
morning.
Lori says he's being a zombieright now and Alex had to take
him away.
On September 24th, loricontacts JJ's school and said

(54:14):
that she was withdrawing him todo homeschooling.
The next week, lori gets somerings off of Amazon and buys a
wedding dress.
She would later say that thesewere for Alex and his soon-to-be
wife.
But whatever, lori, and thispurchase was made with Charles'
Amazon account.
Charles is now no longer withus no longer.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
She's using the money , yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
On October 1st, lori gets a storage unit and Alex and
her are seen visiting this unitat least nine times.
On October 9th, tammy Daybellcalls to report that someone had
shot at her with a paintballgun wearing a ski mask, and she
posts about this on Facebook,like for her neighbors to be on

(55:03):
the lookout.
Ten days later, on October 19th, tammy daybell dies suddenly in
her sleep.
Chad says that he woke up toher coughing, throwing up, and
then she fell out of bed at somepoint.
When it was time to wake up forthe day she was gone.

(55:24):
What?
No longer on this earth theyset it up.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
It's like they were getting everything prepared.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Well, the coroner says that it was natural causes,
so no autopsy was done.
Okay, before all this she hadbeen a very healthy woman.
Now Chad told his friend JulieRowe, who worked for him down at
the publishing company, that hewould not.

(55:52):
It was like three weeks beforeTammy died that he would not be
able to move forward with hisplan until Tammy was dead, y'all
.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Mind it up.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Why, if somebody comes to you and mentions death
in a sentence, no matter whatthey're talking about, get
somebody involved.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, at least document it.
You know, just like, hey, I'mgoing to tell about at least
three or four people about this,because this needs to be
documented.
Write this down right now and Iwant to report just just
comments.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
You know I was listening to a morbid podcast
and this was not even related tothis case, it was on a whole
nother case.
But um, Elena, on that podcast,said that her father always
told her that if someone youknow is it showing you red flags
in some type of situation,write it down.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
And also if they're not doing it in anger, if
they're just talking in commonconversation.
Definitely watch out.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Just a little more than two weeks later, on
November 5th 2019, lori and Chadtogether go to Hawaii and get
married.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I know it was going to happen, lindsay, I note it.
I note it, it was divine.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yes.
It was brought to us from thepast and I have to tell you like
Chad is the most humperdinklooking motherfucker I have ever
seen in my life.
And then there was some peoplewho were like Engelbert.
Then there's some people like,well, you know, he was just

(57:40):
charismatic and he just sweptLaurie off of his feet.
But then there are other peoplethat say that they would they
listen to some of the recordingsthat he had on the podcast and
he's just very humdrum Nothing.
They don't understand how thisguy put Lori under such a spell

(58:00):
to do the unspeakable thingsthat she will go on to do.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Oh, they were married in the past.
Remember, it's fucking wildthere's 21 past lives.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Now, during this time , kate jj's grandmother hadn't
been able to get a hold oflaurie to talk to jj because,
remember, she originally wantedto care for him.
The business wouldn't allowenough attention from her to be
able to care for jj, but theyshe was in in constant contact
with Lori.
So she calls for a welfarecheck.

(58:32):
She's like why the fuck isn'tshe answering the phone?
Why haven't I seen or talked tomy grandson Colby?
Lori's oldest son had beentrying to get ahold of Tylee and
all he would get back weretexts from her that just weren't
in her normal text pattern.
Because we know a person's textpattern, somebody that we've

(58:53):
been texting for a long time.
We know their text pattern, soif it's off, I'm, I'm gonna be
suspicious.
Yeah, that's just like um.
My one of my sons, would youknow, contact me a lot through
facebook messenger and then oneday I'm at work and I'm in the
break room for a minute I havesome time, I'm getting a drink

(59:13):
and I seen that he has given meor sent me some messages and
they just didn't seem like him.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, it wasn't him.
And.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I was like I'm sorry, but this just doesn't sound
like my son, and next thing Iget is a bunch of weird cryptic
sexual messages from this personthat is pretending to be my son
.
I record it and blockimmediately.
So then I contact the phonenumber that I have for my son

(59:42):
and be like, hey, yourFacebook's been hacked.
And I told him exactly whathappened.
He's like, oh my God, mom, I'msorry.
I'm like, well, it's not yourfault, because and I told him
exactly what happened, he's like, oh my God, mom, I'm sorry.
I'm like, well, it's not yourfault, but I noticed that the
text pattern was not his.
So Tylee wouldn't answer hisphone calls and he reaches out
to Lori and Lori would make allkinds of excuses by saying like,
oh, she's super busy.

(01:00:02):
Then he would reach out toTylee again and he would get a
text back.
That was like sorry, I'm justsuper busy again and he would
get a text back that was likesorry I'm just super busy, so
it's more lori style, nottightly okay.
Also, we got another little sidestory here also.
At this time, lori's niece, whois also named melanie not

(01:00:23):
melanie gibb um had been goingthrough a divorce and a custody
battle of her own.
She quickly remarried and movedto Rexburg Okay, the new
Jerusalem in Arizona.
Melanie's now ex-husband,brandon, was pulling into his
driveway and someone driving aJeep shot at him and then peeled

(01:00:46):
off.
Wow, this Jeep was registeredin Charles Vallow's name and it
had belonged to Tylee.
Oh, wow, there's so manyplayers in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
There is a lot of shit twisted up here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Right.
So Brandon tells police that hewas certain that the shooter
was Alex the destroyer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
The destroyer.
I'll keep wanting to sayDestructor on this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
No, they called him, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I know, but okay, at least he's not Alex the Terrible
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
So Chad and Lori, the newlyweds, they're back in
Rexburg from Hawaii.
And the police arrived to dothat.
Well, check on JJ, per Kate'srequest.
Lori wasn't home, but Chad andAlex were there.
The police asked where JJ wasand Alex said he's at his
grandma's house in Louisiana.

(01:01:39):
And the police were like well,you know, that's kind of strange
because she's the one whorequested this.
Well, check on him.
So Alex and Chad said hey,lori's at an apartment nearby,
why don't you go over and talkto her?
And at this time the policeactually call for backup.
They're starting to get reallysuspicious about what's going on

(01:02:00):
here don't be suspicious.
Don't be suspicious don't besuspicious, don't be suspicious,
okay.
So when laurie was questionedshe was like, oh my goodness,
nothing to worry about here.
Jj is staying with my friendmelanie gibb in arizona.
She offered to call melanie forthem.

(01:02:21):
Melanie didn't answer.
So laurie follows up with you.
Know what they're probably atthe movies saying frozen 2.
Oh, that's how recent this is.
That's when Frozen 2 came out,yeah.
So the officers tell her toplease call them when they do
get in touch with Melanie, sothey can talk to JJ and Melanie

(01:02:42):
and resolve this wealth check,okay.
So Chad and Lori then callMelanie and leave her a message
saying hey, quick favor, if thepolice call you, will you please
tell them that you have JJ andthe police do get in touch with
Melanie.
And at first she went alongwith the story but then finally
told him JJ's not here and Idon't know where he is.

(01:03:04):
When Melanie calls Lori to askwhy she was being brought into
this lie, lori says well, Idon't want them to know where JJ
actually is, but why?
Yeah, so Lori assured her thatJJ was safe and happy.
Lori and Chad actually makeMelanie feel bad for questioning

(01:03:27):
them Really, yeah, in truenarcissistic manner.
Yeah, how dare you make me,make you feel bad for
questioning them Really, yeah,in true narcissistic manner.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
How dare you make me make you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
feel bad.
I'm sorry you made me yell atyou.
Yeah, that's one of my favoritelines in a show thus far by
principles.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Watch it the most.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
The narcissistic thing I've ever heard in my life
.
Yeah, so it also comes to light.
Now.
Tylee hasn't been seen either,and this Tylee hasn't been seen
since September 8th.
We're now in December, okay, soby December 20th, Tylee and JJ

(01:04:08):
were officially declared missing.
Investigators start combingthrough emails, text messages
and Lori's iCloud account.
Through emails, text messagesand Lori's iCloud account.
This also brought to light thatTammy Daybell's death may be
suspicious, and then her bodywas exhumed and sent for an

(01:04:29):
autopsy, which was previouslydenied.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Oh, here it comes, here it comes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
And she had actually died from asphyxiation.
Oh, here it is here it comes.
And she had actually died fromasphyxiation.
Ah, not natural causes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I knew it.
I knew you were flipping mesome shit right there.
And then now, here it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
All right, so that was on December 20th when they
were declared missing, so we'regoing to go back a little bit.
On December 12th, alex thedestroyer was found dead.
Ah, in his home.
How many people we got dead now?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
There's like fucking 2,527.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
We got Joe, Charles, Tammy and now Alex.
Yeah, he was found to haveblood clots in his lungs and
this was supposedly a geneticdisease or disorder, or you know
, it was genetics.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
No, they pumped him with something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Prior to his death he had told his new wife and this
is on an affidavit that he felthe was going to take the fall
for Lori and Chad'stransgressions.
Then they re-examined Joe Ryan,but it was still determined
that his death was from naturalcauses.

(01:05:45):
I don't know what they did here.
I don't know.
It's still not known.
Okay, so now back to the kids.
When they were declared missing, Lori and Chad are now declared
suspects in the disappearance.
So Lori and Chad now declaredsuspects in the disappearance.
So Lori and Chad now back inHawaii once again.
They've married, returned.

(01:06:05):
Now they're back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
In the love, yes, in the bonds of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
They refuse to cooperate with police.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Period.
This is some serial killer shitto me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
There is a warrant issued on January 3rd 2020 to
confiscate potential evidencefrom Chad's home in Rexburg.
On January 25th, lori was toldthat she must produce her
children by January 30th or shewould be arrested, and she did

(01:06:36):
not do this and I don't know whyshe was given those five extra
days.
But she was actually given alot more extra days, but the
five days came and went and nokids, yeah, in February, her
storage unit in Idaho wassearched on February 20th.

(01:06:58):
So this is a lot.
This is a whole.
Another month, pretty much, iswhen Lori was officially
arrested and charged with twofelony counts of desertion,
non-support to dependentchildren, obstruction of justice
, solicitation to commit a crimeand suspicion of murder.
Her bond was set at $1 millionand she had not yet said where

(01:07:21):
her children were.
Colby, her oldest son, iscalling her, begging her to tell
him, but all she will say isthey are safe and happy.
Shit on that.
Alex's phone records weresubpoenaed and they were able to
track his movements prior tohis death On September 9th.
This was back in 2019, he hadbeen in Chad's backyard for two

(01:07:47):
and a half hours.
14 minutes after Alex left,chad sent a text to Tammy.
This was before her death, andthe text said well, I have had
an interesting morning.
I felt that I should burn allthe limb debris by the fire pit
before it got too soaked by thecoming storms.

(01:08:07):
While I did so, I spotted a bigraccoon along the fence.
I hurried and got my gun and hewas still walking the wall.
I got close enough that oneshot did the trick, and now he
is in our pet cemetery.
Oh Lindsay you know that's quitea wordy text.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah, he had to explain a non suspicious person
would have just been like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
You know what I shot a raccoon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yeah, I would have said you know I don't know what
I would have said.
None of our to try to coverthat up I can't, I can't figure
out how to word that into hidingthe disturbed earth well, we
don't think like that.
Yeah, the kids are in.
I don't know if they're thereyet, but, jesus, they're
probably there all right, so oh,here it comes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
That was February Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I'm taking a drink.
Yeah, take a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
God, but I just want to bring to light that that all
happened in February.
Now we're in June 9th, 2020.
The kids are still missing.
I watched this in real timeunfold.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Well, I was, you know , I was home a lot Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Yeah, COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Yeah, the detectives and FBI come to Chad's property
with a search warrant and searchdogs to search his backyard.
After they found this textmessage, lori calls from jail at
this same time and Chad letsher know that the yard is being
searched.
He then tried to leave but wasobviously detained, and they

(01:09:44):
found two sets of human remainsin shallow graves in his
backyard.
Oh, I knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I knew it.
Sons of bitches.
I know I'm clouding up Sons ofbitches.
Okay, sons of bitches.
I know I'm clouding up Sons ofbitches.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Okay, chad was immediately arrested and charged
with concealment, distributionand alteration of evidence.
Jays, because he was wearingthe same pajamas that he had
last been seen wearing on aphoto of him found on Lori's

(01:10:25):
iCloud account.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Oh God, lindsay seven years old babies.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
And that was from septet.
That photo had been taken onSeptember 22nd.
We're in June of 2020.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Them kids are just locked up somewhere until then,
wasn't they?

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Yeah, jj had been bound with duct tape and had
duct tape around his mouth and aplastic bag over his head which
had also been sealed with ducttape, and his cause of death was
asphyxiation.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Them fucking poor babies, them babies, man, I
cannot believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
The next one's worse.
The other set of remains werelater determined to be Tylee.
She had been dismembered andburned.
What the fuck Lindsay.
So that raccoon the child wastalking about.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Was cheering them two babies and cut up one,
asphyxiated the other.
Who knows what else.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
So the cause of her death was not determined, but
was ruled as homicide.
Her DNA was later found on apickaxe in Chad's shed oh my God
, and Alex's DNA had been foundeverywhere.
It was everywhere.
So now Chad and Lori are bothlocked up and indicted on the

(01:11:48):
murders of both Tylee and JJ.
Chad was also being tried forthe murder of Tammy Daybell and
Lori for the conspiracy tomurder Charles Vallow, lori went
to trial in April of 2023.
Oh, and for the conspiracy tomurder Charles Vallow, lori went
to trial in April of 2023.
Oh, and, by the way, girl, theend of the world didn't happen
because we're still here, oh,yeah.
So she went on for the murderof Tylee and JJ and she pleaded

(01:12:14):
not guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
No, jesus told her to do it, so she ain't guilty as
shit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
The prosecution basically said that this woman
would do anything to get whatshe wanted, and what she wanted
was to be kid free with ChadDaybell, like there was a a
point in their little you knowspur of the moment marriage
there, where they were like theycalled each other empty nesters
.
Oh, so they just wanted themselfish them divine entities

(01:12:43):
together because they were thechosen leaders of the last
144,000 yeah, the leaders yes sofucking great leadership there
was a plethora of text messagessent between Chad and Lori
planning all this out for awhile, and they were using their
weird light and dark codes andthe name Hillary was given for

(01:13:05):
the zombie that possessed Tylee.
Remember Ed Schneider, not EdNed Schneider, ned Schneider.
Was the one that possessedCharles, and now Hillary was the
one that possessed Tylee.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
What the fuck, Lindsay, I'm, I'm upset, I don't
.
I feel like I'm going to sojust ah, uh, that that is really
.
It's really bad.
This is horrible to use.
How do you mix religion in this?
How do you do it?
How do you do it?
What then?
It's not a religion year?
How do you do it?
How do you do it?
What Then?
It's not a religion?

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
You're, it's an excuse, you know on May 12th
2023, only after seven hours ofdeliberation, the jury
unanimously found Lori guilty onall charges of murder and
conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Now, this was her statement.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I want to say this, cause it's in my head there will
come a payday.
There will come a payday.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
there will come a payday, there will come a payday
someday.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Someday there will come a payday, hallelujah,
hallelujah, and there will comea payday someday, sorry
righteous gemstones.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
watch it max, asap, all.
So this was her statementbefore being sentenced.
Okay, I'm going to read it inmy best glory.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
This is my realization of calloused.
Am I there?
You know there now because youfucking you just said that crazy
shit that I'm really fuckingupset about right now, and then
I just flipped some shit likethat Did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
I just do that.
You're getting there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I feel like I'm getting calloused a little bit,
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I mean, as you can see, I'm calloused but some of
them just fucking break down.
You were crying a minute ago.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
I know, but like I mean, I'm really upset about it.
I really am, but now being ableto switch to some bullshit to
laugh, why I'm not you're kindof fucking me up, though.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I mean, we're 23 episodes in now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
You're fucking me up though, but still like, I feel
like right now it kind ofclicked into Callister right now
Like it's so fucking horriblethough them four babies and then
fucking using I mean, but it'sa bunch of bullshit to begin
with, so I'm biting on a turdsandwich the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
So I'm going to read Lori's statement in the best
Lori voice that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I can muster, I'll do it.
I want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I would like to start by quoting John from the New
Testament in the Bible.
In John, chapter eight, verseseven, jesus says he that is
without sin among you, let himfirst cast a stone at her.
Then, in the first verse ofchapter 15, jesus says ye judge

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after the flesh.
I judge no man, and yet if Ijudge, my judgment is true.
Jesus knows me and Jesusunderstands me.
I mourn with all of you whomourn my children and Tammy.
Accidental deaths happen,suicides happen, fatal side
effects from medications happen.

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We're going to dive into thatdeeper in just a second.
I have a different perspectivein life because in 2002, I was
pregnant with Tylee.
I died in the hospital while inlabor with her.
They tried to stop my labor,they put me on the table and
they put something in my IV andI felt my spirit falling to the

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floor.
I was standing near my pregnantbody watching the doctors try
to revive me, which took them afew minutes.
In that time my sister, stacy,was standing to my left.
I turned to hug her and wassurprised that her spirit was
tangible as a physical body,because I knew I was in spirit

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and she was in spirit.
She said she needed to show mesome things and we went to
heaven.
I later returned to my body.
Because of this experience, Ihave access to heaven and the
spirit world.
Since then, I have had manycommunications from people now
living in heaven, including mychildren, tylee, ashland and

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Joshua Jackson, my sisters Stacyand Lolly, my aunts and my
uncles and my grandparents.
I have had many communicationswith Jesus Christ, the Savior of
this world, and our heavenlyparents.
Many angelic visitors have comeand communicated with me and
even manifested themselves to meBecause of these communications

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.
I know for a fact that mychildren are happy and busy in
the spirit world Because of mycommunications.
I know for a fact that mychildren are happy and busy in
the spirit world Because of mycommunications with my friend
Tammy Daybell.
I know that she is also veryhappy and extremely busy.
I have always mourned the lossof my loved ones and I have lost
many in this mortal world.
However, I know them more thanmost people.

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I know where they are now andwhat they are doing.
I know how wonderful heaven isand I am homesick for it every
single day.
I know we all lived in heavenbefore we were on earth and we
were all adult spirits in theheavenly realm and chose to come
to earth as mortals.
I did not want to return to mybody when I was out of it, even

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though my son, colby, who Iadored more than anything, was
only six years old at the timeand I was about to give birth to
his new baby girl that I wantedso badly.
I was a young mother and wouldthink I wouldn't have to leave
my children, but as soon as Istood in heaven, I did not want
to go back.

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I thought they would be finewithout me, because I was
peaceful and I was happy and Iwas home.
But then I was told by Jesusthat I needed to go back and
complete the things that I hadcovenanted Sorry y'all, yeah,
covenanted or promised to dobefore I was born.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
That's a seven deadly sin, but yeah, covenant.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Not coveting but covenanted.
She had a covenant.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
This caused me a lot of distress because I knew
heaven was my real home and Ionly wanted to be there.
I was free from pain,emotionally and physically.
Then I was shown how I couldhelp my children and others in
the future.
So ultimately I did agree to goback to my body.
Tylee suffered horriblephysical pain her whole life.

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Side note she did havepancreatitis when she was
younger, but it did seem to havehealed before her death.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
You know how bad I would be wanting to fight you
right now If you were sayingsome shit like that in real
earnest.
I would be wanting to fight youIf you were saying if you were
saying that, trying to justifytaking lives because I know
better that we're all going toheaven and we're just spirit, so
life on earth doesn't matter,so I can just take it whenever I
want to.
Right, that's what she's tryingto say right there.

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She's trying to justify all ofthat Don't really matter,
because we're all going toheaven and I know their spirits,
so we're all just going to hugand hang out later on after I
killed you Right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
All right, I'm getting back into character.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Go ahead, it's fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I sat with Tylee in the hospital year after year
while she Fuck.
She had pain every single day.
She never felt good.
Her body did not work right andI don't know if that was from

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complications from me dyingwhile she was being born or
something else.
But she had a very difficultlife.
She was sexually abused by herown biological father since she
was three years old and she wasforced by family court to go
visit him for ten years againsther will.
I fought for her in court.
I protected her.
I tried to protect her.

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My whole life I tried toprotect her.
I worried about her everysingle day.
Tylee had to get her GEDbecause she could not go to
school every day because shenever felt good, she felt sick.
Nobody knows this because Tylee, like myself, tries to put on a
good front, tries to be a happyperson, tries to have a hope in
life, tries to know that she'shere for a purpose and that she

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has an eternal purpose to be onthis earth.
But I never stopped worryingabout her.
One of these times that Tyleecame to me as a spirit after she
died, she said she commanded meand she said to me stop
worrying, mom, we are fine.
She knows how I worry and how Imiss her.
The first time JJ visited meafter he passed away, he put his

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arm around me and he said to meyou didn't do anything wrong,
mom, I love you and I know youloved me every minute of my life
.
Joshua, jj Jackson, was anadult spirit.
He was very, very tall when heput his arm around me.
He is busy, he is engaged, hehas jobs that he does there and

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he is happy where he is.
His life was short, but JJ'slife was meaningful.
His life was short, but JJ'slife was meaningful.
Jj was a wonderful person andtouched the lives of everyone
and I adored him every minute ofhis life.
My eternal friend Tammy Daybellhas visited me on several
occasions.
She came to bring me peace andcomfort, and I know that she is

(01:22:36):
extremely busy helping herfamily, especially her children
and grandchildren, and I have agreat love for Tammy.
My beautiful children, tyleeAshland and Joshua Jackson, rest
safely this day in the arms ofJesus.
My wonderful friend TammyDaybell rest safely this day in
the arms of Jesus, and I lookforward to the day when we are

(01:22:57):
all reunited and I too will restin the arms of my Jesus, she
said that in court you know howbad I want to drop kick you for
even saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
I mean, I know you're not her, no, but just how in
the fuck is somebody justifyingall of this and then and then
saying oh, our kids came to meand they're just fine with me
hacking them up.
They're just fine with mestabbing them with a fucking
pickaxe and they're just finewith them fucking choking me out

(01:23:28):
with a bag over my head.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
They're just fine with that in the eyes of the
Lord, Well, that whole plethoraof bullshit that she spilled did
not help her, because she wassentenced to five life sentences
without the possibility ofparole good now her only
surviving son, colby.
He has had a really hard time.
He's lost his siblings and somany others around him.

(01:23:51):
Yeah, now he has a youtubechannel and a podcast called
scar wars.
Wow, yes.
I'm going to get teary becauseI watched some of it.
Yeah.
Now it's the Scar Wars podcast.
Okay, so if you want to lookhim up on either, I do suggest
that, because this is hishealing journey.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
You may not want to tell me this, but I want to know
right now.
Am I still paying taxes forthis bitch to be alive?

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Yes, fuck, he.
Uh.
Colby actually interviews hisown mother for his podcast and
he is begging her to just toplease say what happened.
And this is what this bitchtells him.
Okay, she says that Tyleeaccidentally smothered JJ and

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then took her own life.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
With a pickaxe and cut herself up.
Right, yeah, yeah, fuck no.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Now, first of all, bitch, how dare you.
And second of all, that is notforensically or evidentiary
possible.
No it's not Fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Colby does turn to the camera after he's done with
this interview and assures hislisteners that this is not true.
He completely knows that hismother is very mentally ill.
Now Chad's children believethat he is completely innocent
and was set up by Lori and AlexAll five of them, All five of
his kids.
On June 21st of 2024, ChadDaybell was sentenced to death

(01:25:25):
for the murder in the first andconspiracy to the murder of
Tammy JJ and Tylee.
Lori's conspiracy trial is setto be held on March 31st this
year, so not too far away fromnow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
So we're going to have some stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
later on We'll have a little recap later on and she
will be representing herself.
Wow, I watched a Jailhouseinterview which I would like for
you to watch with me a littlelater.
It's only about an hour Withher and the best in the biz,
Keith Morrison.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Really yes, all right man.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
She still believes all her bullshit and that her
and Chad will be exonerated.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Completely, completely believes that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
So I mean I have to work to put these.
I mean, is that sound conceitedof me to be pissed off or
whatever?
I have to work and they take mymoney to facilitate this
bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
And Chad will probably be on death row for a
long time.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Exactly, and Lori will be there the rest of her
life.
I'm just going to drag thisshit out for the next 20 years
and then, oh man, I'm not tryingto just plug, but if you're
hands down, I'm sorry if youdon't like it or whatever.
If you're hands down, a fuckingtyrant and you kill other
people and there's no way aroundit, no way of getting out of it

(01:26:51):
.
It's completely proven.
Why do I have to keep workingto pay for that?
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Right, because, as I'm going to go back to the West
Memphis three, there was a lotof reasonable doubt there.
There was nothing connectingthem to these murders,
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Everything, everything.
Chad.
Debo and Lori and her nine lastnames, everything.
And what a stain on thereligion.
What a stain on, likeeverything, everything.
Well, fortunately, everybodyaround them.
There's no credibility.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Everybody around them has testified against them,
other than Chad's children.
Yeah, so everybody else thatwas involved, like Melanie Gibb,
I mean, yes, she wasirresponsible completely and I
put a lot of I don't know if Iwant to say blame, but I put a
lot of responsibility on herbecause she knew from a long

(01:27:48):
time ago that there wassomething off.
There was something wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Definitely something ain't right.
They were using this to justifya fling that turned into
something that they were justsaying.
Too much crazy shit.
I don't know they're, they'reboth just shot the fuck out.
Yeah, you know, hands down,shot the fuck out.
Use religion on top of theirselfish, fucking empty nest

(01:28:14):
theory that you know, inwhatever else they could pull,
in kids were zombies.
Yeah, there were zombies, sothey're good kids were fine.
There was nothing wrong withchad's kids oh well it was just
lori, yeah yeah, well, that waspart of his.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
What'd you go for, dink deal oh my god, he was, he
is, he is the biggest humperdinkum, don't show him to me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
So is this it?
Is this all of it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Yeah, that's our.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
This is the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Our coverage will give an update when Lori's
conspiracy theory trial is overyeah.
Her conspiracy to murder.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
I'm going to go ahead and just slip this in, because
I mean, I'm not really happyabout this at all.
Yeah, this was a rough one yeahthat's why I say, I mean like
but thank you for making me beaddicted to this bullshit,
lindsay casey anthony's washorrible and she's still the

(01:29:12):
most hated mom, but laurievallow, she's she's number one
for me.
Right now, women be doing thework.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Don't you dare, I dared.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
That's horrible.
Can I play music, yet you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
can't put sick women in the same category as good
women.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
No, I'm not.
I'm just making a.
You know I'm not, I'm kiddingover here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
But I mean, like I said, you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Good women are good women.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
She showed a little bit of craziness.
But 2018, when she met Chad,was when she really flipped.
The script Snapped yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Snapped and just tried to use religion to make it
all justified, I guess in herown mind.
Fucked up, Can I play music yet?
Can I play music yet?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Yes, you can plug your band, who we're listening
to today.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
So back in the day I did a collaboration album with
my band and a few other amazingbands and I want to talk about
one of the bands that was in thecollaboration album.
So we, we, we took in I thinkit was like eight different
bands and one of the bands wascalled sister Sandoz.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Okay, I remember them .

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Yeah, so I've been talking to Beckycky back and
forth whenever we started allthis.
She is the front lady of thisgroup and they're amazing and I
want to share them, and one ofthese days we're probably going
to have becky down here andwe're going to talk about, uh,
some things that's happened inher area.
Okay, so wouldn't that be cool?
Yes I want to play some sistersandow guest star yeah, for sure

(01:30:38):
, for sure, for sure, for, forsure, for sure, for sure.
So y'all check Sister Sandozout.
This song is called Runaway.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Runaway.
Try to try to Find a way toundo, undo the things I have to
go through, go through Neveragain.
Try to try to Find a way toundo undo the things I have to

(01:31:23):
go through, go through, gothrough never again.
Bye, I'm under tear like I do.

(01:32:19):
Yeah, try to try to find a wayto undo, undo the things I have
to go through, go through.
Oh, never again.
I try to find a way to undothese things I have to go
through Never again.

(01:32:41):
I know you'll run away Neveragain.
Try to understand why I'm likethis.
Yeah, I'll be right, I'm justsaying why.
I'm just saying why.
Yeah, I'm just saying why.

(01:33:03):
I'm doing it again, trying tounderstand why.
I'm just saying why.
Yeah, yeah, why are you runningaway?

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
And then again trying to understand why I do what I
do.
Yeah, take my eyes to a newbeginning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:34:25):
yeah, yeah.
I don't know why I do what I do.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
I love it so much so they remind me a little bit of
garbage.
Garbage-ish yeah A little bitof Suburban Pickups.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Yeah, and a little bit of Flyleaf yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
a little bit of sober sun pickups, yeah, and a little
bit of fly leaf it does yeah itdoes and I love it like I
pictured all three bands like soawesome, so awesome it was kurt
, that sent them my way um yearsago, a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Yeah and yeah, I love them.
They're amazing and I want tosee, I want to see her down here
.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Yeah, come on the cast yeah, come on down come on
down right now.
What we can do is we can sendher, like my upcoming case
lineup and see which one shewants to join on no, she has
some cool stuff okay.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
So yeah, we'll let her do stuff and we'll be the
listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
That would be awesome .
Yeah, yeah Come come run this,come run this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
You're going to be in my seat with me.
Yes, so that's the deal.
That's the deal, becky.
Now we shared your band.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
You got to come down and we're going to be the
listeners and you run this.
We're going to react.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
We should do that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Yeah, a lot more All about that.
Yeah, all about that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
So we're going to let this ride on.
Y'all check out Sister Sandozin the Georgia North Florida
area, everything like that,because they're in, I think,
macon, georgia.
So check them out, follow them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Follow us.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Follow all the bands.
Follow usDrinkAboutSomethingsite.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
And we're on Instagram, youtube.
We got a Gmail.
Yeah, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Do the whole thing.
You know might as well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Send us an email If you have.
That's what I want.
I love the feedback.
I really do.
Send us an email.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
We would love to take your recommendation, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yep, yep.
And I'm working out so manycool bands and we're probably
going to be doing maybe someremote stuff, Definitely
Rockville.
So sharing all the bands, allthe stuff and the old shitty
content that Lindsay comes upwith.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Yeah, we have less than two months until Rockville.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Yeah, I'm so ready, I know so ready.
But we're going to fly out, I'mgoing to cook some brats over
here and we're going to have agreat weekend.
We'll see you guys next Friday,maybe sooner, maybe sooner,
maybe even Wednesday, but I'mnot sure yet no.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
next one.
Next one's going to be two pata.
Two polta that we will deliverto you on Friday and Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
So yeah, so see you next Friday.
Bye.