In this uplifting episode of the Early Accountability Podcast, host Kimi Walker is joined by Robert J. Hunt, executive coach, peer group facilitator, and co-author of Nobody Cares Until You Do. Known as The Accountability Dude, Robert brings two decades of business coaching and leadership experience to the conversation, diving deep into the real meaning of accountability: owning your life, your choices, and your outcomes. Together, Kimi and Robert explore how accountability is often misunderstood as punishment, when in reality, it is a powerful pathway to freedom and transformation.
Robert shares compelling stories from his own journey, including the pivotal moment he and his wife chose to sell their home and pay off $90,000 in debt, a radical act of ownership that changed every area of their lives. He also introduces listeners to the Satisfaction Assessment, a free tool from NobodyCaresBook.com that helps individuals evaluate personal and professional fulfillment in key life areas. With heartfelt insights on faith, leadership, discipline, and the difference between busyness and true productivity, Robert inspires listeners to stop making excuses and start building the life they truly want. The path to change begins when you decide to own your story, because nobody cares until you do.
Topics Covered in This Episode:
- What true accountability means and how it empowers change
- How Robert and his wife paid off $90,000 in debt by owning their choices
- The difference between being busy and being productive
- Using the Satisfaction Assessment to pinpoint life and business gaps
- Why faith, leadership, and clarity drive lasting results
- Creating accountability through peer groups and supportive partnerships
About Robert Hunt
Robert J. Hunt is "The Accountability Dude" and the co-author of the book "Nobody Cares...until you do." He is a business owner in the Dallas/Fort Worth Texas area since 2008. Robert is an Executive Coach who runs CEO Groups in DFW since 2013 and he brings that experience and wisdom to help people reach their goals.
Robert has been married 27 years to his beautiful wife Kathy, and has two adult children also living in Texas. He is passionate about his faith, his purpose, his family and his quest to help people be their best.
Connect with Robert Hunt
- Website: https://nobodycaresbook.com
- Email: roberth@refdallas.com
Connect with Kimi Walker:
· Visit: earlyaccountability.com
· LinkedIn: Kimi Walker
· Facebook: Kimi Walker
· Instagram: Kimi...
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Kimi Walker here and welcomeback to the next episode of the
Early Accountability Podcast.
Today we have a very special guest comingto the show that I'm very excited about.
We are joined by RobertJ. Hunt, who is known as.
The accountability dude.
He's an executive coach,co-author of the book.
Nobody Cares Until You Do.
And a Trusted Guide to CEO andbusiness Leaders Navigating
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Overload, growth and Real Leadership.
He's based in Dallas-Fort Worth.
Robert brings over 20 years ofexperience in business coaching
and community leadership.
He leads CEO groups, coacheshigh performers, and helps people
define success on their own terms.
So let's dive into this powerfulconversation about purpose.
Overload and what itmeans to live accountable.
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Robert, first off, thank you.
I think you have to be myfirst guest that's like in my
realm of actual accountability.
Who uses it and says it.
It says the word accountability a lot.
So I'm really excited.
I was like, I can't wait for this.
I have another accountability person
a small community.
It's a very small community of us.
So
Yeah.
But we're hoping to make it bigger.
exactly.
So why don't you tell the audienceabout you, your journey, how you
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got here, and what made you like,get into accountability too.
It's what I do for a living.
I run peer groups for businessowners every month, and so I'm all
about how do you create a world ofaccountability in your own life?
And after watching people for years andyears succeed or fail, I found the common
element that was the different, thedefinition of the two was accountability.
Those who owned accountabilityreally did well.
And they weren't perfect.
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They made all kinds ofdecisions that weren't great
or had problems that come up.
But at the end of the day, if we owneverything in our lives, which is the
definition of accountability, you own it.
If you own it, you have thepower to do something about it.
And I've watched those peoplewho had faced really big
challenges own it and conquer it.
And although it was hard, they came outon the other side with what they wanted.
And I think people are just used tothese days not understanding what
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accountability really looks like.
Like even this morning, let's say yougot up and you're running late to work.
You get in the car and you'redriving and you're booking to get
to work, why are you late to work?
The alarm didn't go off.
That's not the alarm's fault you said it.
The alarm doesn't work for you.
And you know if the alarm isnot working, that's your deal.
And then you decide to stop and checkyour Facebook page really quick.
'cause you put something onmarketplace and you got distracted.
That's a picture of a cat on water skis.
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And next thing it's a half an hour laterand then you run out the door, you're
driving, and now you're late for work.
And when you get there, you walk inand you go, man, traffic was horrible.
Man, don't blame traffic.
That's 'cause you were late 'cause youdidn't get outta the house on time.
So we make excuses, we blame andthen everyone's mad 'cause you made
us wait for the meeting to start.
And then you make excuses.
Why are we having a meetingin the morning anyway?
We shouldn't even go over this stuff.
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Everybody already knows this.
So this kind of ripple effect ofwhat happens when we don't take
accountability in our lives.
It affects our attitude, ourrelationships, our joy in life, and then
we live as victims instead of really whatit could be, which is a victorious life.
Yes, absolutely.
A hundred percent yes.
So I was just like, oh, that's great.
This is so good.
So well first tell us, how did youget to become the accountability dude?
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How did you get the title?
Oh, I named myself accountability, dude.
There's an accountability guy inAustralia and I didn't wanna ruffle
feathers, so I'm like he's a guy.
I'll be a dude.
And I grew up in Southern California,so dude was the word I used anyway.
And even in Texas here we, wedo, we still call people dudes.
I wanted to be approachable.
I hang with business owners and CEOs allday long, but I'm just an average guy.
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I make mistakes.
I live my life to do the best I can.
God's been very kind to me.
My whole life and I wanna be approachable,so I just thought maybe I'd just be a
dude instead of the executive professoror some kind of name that made people
feel like I was smarter than that.
I'm not.
I still struggle withaccountability all the time.
I still have issues in mylife where I, but I see it.
I see it quick.
I go, okay, I'm not gonna go there.
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That's not owning it.
And I've changed my lifebecause of this awareness.
Okay.
So I do wanna ask you a questionthat I even ask myself or
think of when I look at things.
Some people think accountability istied to discipline or punishment or,
Punishment.
Yes.
What do you say to that?
Yeah.
We do think it's a punitive term,but it really is power and freedom
when you try, and one of theprinciples you have to understand is
nobody can hold anyone accountable.
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can create a world where I want to beaccountable, but it's totally up to me.
Hey Kimi, I'm gonna lose weight.
I'm gonna work out five days a weekand I'm not gonna eat donuts anymore.
And then you go, great.
I'll hold you accountable.
Then you call me the next day.
How does it go?
Do you go to the gym?
Yeah, I did.
I went to the gym and I could lie to you,you would not know unless you babysat me.
And then at the end of theweek, I gained two pounds.
And you're like, Hey, what happened?
I only went to the donut storeonce, which is, I went there five
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times, and so at the end of the day,nobody can hold you accountable.
You can't hold your employees accountablebecause they could lie to you.
And besides, you wanna run aroundtrying to babysit everyone or be in the
task master who makes people behave.
You want to create a world wherepeople want to be accountable, and
I want to be accountable becauseI understand that at the other
side of accountability is freedom.
If I don't like something in mylife and I own it, I can fix it.
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My wife and I owed $90,000 in debt
Woo.
didn't include the house or the cars.
And every year it didn't start at90, it went at five and then 20.
And then the, you know, afterfive years of struggling to get
my business where I wanted to,and we just kept spending money.
And then telling the government I owe you.
I'll pay you next year.
It got bigger and bigger.
And then finally in 2019, welooked at each other and we said,
we're not living the life we want.
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And we're miserable andwe're fighting about stuff.
We're angry at God.
We're angry at each other.
We're angry at the world.
Why don't we just ownthis crap and start over?
And so we had a house.
It had equity.
So why don't we sell thehouse and start over?
And we did.
We did just that.
We sold our home.
We downsized.
We moved into this housethat we rent today.
And we paid off every penny.
We owed everybody and we were debtfree and it was a huge change.
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But the piece it broughtin my life was remarkable.
I worried about making minimumpayments on my credit cards.
I worried about losing a client'cause I would not have enough
money to function and pay our bills.
I worried about my relationship with mywife because I felt like I constantly
said, stop spending money on that.
Why are you buying that?
We need groceries.
Things like that.
And it was so extreme.
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And so I got to a place where I reallyrealized I have all the power in the
world if I just am truly accountable.
And that's what changed my business, thatchanged my marriage, it changed my health.
Everything has gotbetter because I own it.
You could probably, oh, okay.
So you have a good topic.
I really wanna actually wanna talk aboutwhat do you, so early accountability
we're oh, the beginning stages of achange, a pivot, a new endeavor, whether
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it's personally or professionally.
What do you recommend for people whofeel like they have plateaued in this?
To area where they would like to seeimprovement or a change or a shift,
like how you and your wife did.
Okay, the day you said,Hey, we're gonna do this.
That's, like you said.
Okay, so of course we're gonna eatit bite by bite, but that is a lot.
So what do you,
There's no Dave Ramsey planto get out of a $90,000 debt.
Yes.
Look the best.
The first thing to do is startover and start and taking
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the satisfaction assessment.
Go onto our website@nobodycaresbook.comand for free.
You could take the satisfactionassessment and then be honest.
Really honest.
Like when you look at your health if,and I'm like 25 pounds overweight.
I'm acknowledging it, it's real.
But I'm not like I look great.
Don't I know you?
You know you're overweight.
Be honest with yourself, and maybeyour marriage isn't what you thought
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it would be when you first got married.
Or maybe raising kids isn'twhat you thought it would be.
Really be honest with yourself.
Where are you not satisfied?
And then ask yourself why.
And when you find yourself blamingor making excuses or saying you can't
do anything about it, or just waitingto hope it gets better somehow,
that's a trap that a victim plays.
And that's not accountability.
So you can take the assessment andyou can see, am I making excuses?
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Am I blaming anywhere?
Am I just saying I can'tmake it any better?
That's a trap, and that's the startingpoint to saying, I want to get better and
you can own it and do something about it.
Okay, so now I took the assessment andmaybe it's a little bit of a. If you say
it, I always tell people, we can't conquerwhat we won't confess or confront, so
we're gonna share it just so people cansee the, those who are watching like the
video can kind see what this looks like.
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'cause I think it's important.
Some things you just gotta visualize.
You just have to see.
Maybe we can pick me apart andsee, give me some live coaching.
And for those who are listeningand can't see this, we've got
two little pie chart wheels.
On the left side is personal satisfaction.
On the right side is businessbecause they're both important.
If I'm having a miserable life, Ishow up at work, miserable, and if I
hate my job, I bring it home with me.
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And so it's important that we take thetime to be honest about both categories.
But at the start, one of the things we canrecognize is these wheels are not round.
If I had a car that had a wheel shapelike this, I'd be driving down the
road, bouncing everywhere, and crashing.
So what we want to do is startby acknowledging that maybe we're
putting too much effort into one areaand not enough effort into another.
If your technology is doing fantastic,but your finances are bad, then you've
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gotta start putting money towardsthings that are generating more revenue.
If you're having a great timeenjoying time with friends and hanging
out, but your financial problem.
Your finances is under where you wantit to be then you need to go back and
start figuring out cheaper ways tohang with your friends and have fun.
You have choices to make, to bring upone of the levels of satisfaction, maybe
at the expense of lowering another onedown, not to make your life miserable.
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I think I'll just be unhappy with mygrowth, but I, if you're not having the
marriage relationship you want, thenyou've gotta invest some time in that.
And that's where you make a choice.
Life is all about choices.
My clients run companies, they're verybusy people, but you can't do it all.
And if at some point you decide,what do I really want in life?
And I think this assessment'sa great place to step back
and be honest with yourself.
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Okay, so based on, so wehave my chart pulled up.
So I don't know, what would you sayto me based off of what in my results?
So we have pulled up my personalsatisfaction results and my
business satisfaction results.
And I know you said it should be round
.Yeah,
And mine's not completely round.
No.
If you look at yours particularly,you've got product or service
that you value really low andyour management is really low.
So what would it take to getthose things to be higher?
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What would be some of the issuesthat you'd want to go fix?
Maybe we don't have the time to dig into get the answer right now, but you
would know what is it that I'm not doing?
To develop the product or service Iwant, or the management that I need
to have, or even from a sales andmarketing perspective, so you can
prioritize those in your efforts.
Like for us, our number one issue we wereunhappy with was our finances, but we
were also frustrated with our marriage.
We were angry at God that hewasn't fixing all of our problems.
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We were frustrated with our relationships.
There was certainly no growthand but we had to think,
where do we want to go first?
And there's a ripple effect indoing something that you should do.
When we got our finances in line,we looked at our marriage different.
When we were no longer in debt,we could enjoy life and not
and breathe a sigh of relief.
We didn't have any more moneythan we had when we were broke,
but we didn't owe any money.
So the stress was gone, and I could thinkclearly, I can make better decisions in
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my work relationships, and my businesstook off because my attitude was one of.
Of success and abundanceinstead of fear and worry.
And so they're related to each other,but you can make a decision how to
prioritize your work in one area andit will ripple effect into other areas.
okay.
I think that, and actuallythat makes a lot of sense.
So I know I know, like right now I'm,I've been looking into bringing in
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more things with, or working on itactively, like bringing in more things
with operations and like lookingat how I do management, so I think
when I really went in full forcemanagement is actually a full-time job.
It's, it actually takes a lot,like managing personnel is a lot.
It is a whole anotherjob, like it really is.
And so I think that was somethingI , wasn't maybe as prepared for
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when it comes to having multiple teammembers or a lot of different things.
You're like, wait, this is a lot training
and let me encourage you that what I'velearned is that you don't manage people.
You manage a process.
You lead people.
And so if you've got peoplethat are struggling to get.
Get things done or not doing whatyou want 'em to do, that's 'cause
you're not leading them well.
And you have to have a very clearvision of where you're going, how
we're gonna do it, what's the attitude?
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We're gonna do it with those kindsof principles that are important,
and then let them go do their job.
But if you haven't articulated how we'resupposed to do things, what we're focused
on, why we're focused on these things,no wonder they're not performing well.
You can't stand over their shoulderand say, no, that was wrong.
That was wrong.
You know that is, that'smanaging by correction.
Great leaders cast an excitingvision for their team to follow
and then get out of the way.
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Absolutely.
And it needs to be clear and written down,
Yeah,
So people can follow it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I agree.
So it, this makes per perfect sense andI do, even just looking at mine with
even on the business side, seeing theproduct or service the management low
and the sales and marketing as far asfinancial, all those intertwined to me.
I think, like you say, we work on one.
I can see how the otherones will improve as.
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Being more laser focused on
And if you get anything to a 10, then youprobably are not challenging yourself.
If your tech is at a 10 and you thinkyou're done, what else could you be doing?
What else could you be doing ifyou had another thing to work on?
For example, if I'm super excitedabout email, like I learned
how to do email well, but howmuch time is wasted on email?
Maybe I could put in some commandsthat move them into spam folders,
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or I could put in some commandsthat highlight the one important
so I don't go through on my emails.
Maybe I can build some other.
System that actually AI reviews, theemails that come in and decide to prior.
There's more things they cando in the tech area or whatever
area you think you've mastered.
You have not.
There is more to do, more efficient,better use, bigger results.
There's always somethingwe can get better at.
Yeah, I think, yeah, definitely.
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I know that especially withtechnology, I find myself.
Totally comfortable with technologyor learning some portions of new
technology, but right now is I'm alwaysinterested in, I'm always learning.
And one, I think thiscomes in accountability.
Just you can become an over learner.
Like always gotta learn something new.
Always gotta have the newest.
Thing or what have you.
Shiny object syndrome.
But my biggest one with technologynow is okay, we need to get
some of this stuff automated.
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'cause if I'm having to separately godo this separately, go do that set.
Wait another thing, here'sa whole another job.
But how can these systems intertwine?
Because what ends up, same thing.
It becomes a whole another job of manuallydoing this or going over here to do
that and going, so you really start tolook at, hey also too, what's needed?
What's, what do I need?
Minimal viable, like what?
Do I really have to have all of this?
Is it just the bells and whistle?
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Is this a shiny object syndromeor is this a core need that can
improve or enhance something?
Or like you said, or am I gonnaget just too drowned in this, that
it's not, worth it at the end.
tend to put a lot of time into thingswe enjoy or that we're good at.
But there's a fit for use applicationthat says, that's good enough
Get off of that and let's go work on thethings that are struggling to survive.
Because if you like it, you'llspend more and more time on it.
Oh, AI is so fun, so cute, so exciting.
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And you'll just learn and learn.
But hey, your wholebusiness is struggling.
You're not getting any ordersand you're losing money, but
you're learning a lot about ai,so you have to really be careful.
Don't allow yourself to go into somethingthat's just fun or sexy or exciting.
Put your plan together.
Be in a discipline to, to followwhat you've committed to do.
And again, back to accountability.
Invite people into your journeyto say, here's where I'm gonna go.
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This is what I'm gonna work on.
And then review it against them.
So they go, wait, you said you'd behaving this level of sales by now.
What?
What have you been doing?
I've been learning ai.
I am really excited about, Hey,that's not moving the needle.
You're not making any money.
And so you have to be able to have aplan and then share it with someone
else that's creating accountability.
They won't babysit you or makeyou do it, but they'll be peer
pressure to make you wanna do it.
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'cause they're gonna ask you.
Yes.
And you bring a pointI wanted to talk about.
So the intertwining of accountability andproductivity or busyness, I think we're
in the, everybody is super, really busy.
And how do you help people withbeing able to be self-aware of.
The difference betweenproductivity and accountability
I think the bit the difference, or we'dfocus on it between productivity and busy.
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Because accountability ishow you handle those two.
Busy.
Busy is a busy, is a new stupid.
And people love to saythough, how busy I was.
Oh, I worked till 11 o'clock last night.
Oh, I worked on Saturday.
It's a badge of honor.
Look, if you can't do your jobMonday through Friday, nine to
five, you're not good at it.
Or there's a problem with
in the system.
Yeah, you have too much on you.
Yeah.
There's there something's wrong.
You create a world, you don't, no one.
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I know all of my clients whoown their own businesses.
No, none of 'em want someone first thingin the morning, staying late at night,
ignoring their family, burning the candle.
They don't want that.
They want them to go home.
They want them to be attheir kids' baseball game.
They want to be able to take vacationsbecause they want to keep 'em.
And if you get burnedout, you're not any good.
You're angry.
You're bitter at the world,you're rude to people.
You're not fun to be around.
So we, as leaders, wewant you to have a life.
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So being busy is not right.
You need to be focused whenyou have prioritization.
You know what you want to work on,and then you stay focused on that.
You get the results you want, buthaving someone sit at their cubicle
for eight hours and then go homedoesn't mean they did anything all day.
It's really where we communicate what'simportant and we prioritize against that.
And what do you, so looking at the will,is that what you would say would be
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a good guide to see what areas peoplelooking at your results, will, this
is what you could or should prioritize
Yeah, you could.
Again, it's your life.
You could do whatever you wannado with the results of this.
But let's say I look and Isay, look, sales is really low.
If I don't get sales, I'mgonna be out of business.
So that's my number one focus.
So how do I let tech just leave it alone?
It's fine.
Whatever you got is good enough fit foryears, then I'll go work on my sales.
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Then when the sales is up,it'll be easier to manage.
Why?
Because everyone will be busy.
They'll be doing stuff I won'thave to be worried about.
What can I have you do?
And things are down.
I don't.
We have a cadence and wehave some consistency.
We can scale and get better.
So focusing on sales maybe the way to go do that.
Or maybe it's cashflow.
Maybe we don't have enough inventory.
Therefore, when people call toorder stuff, we can't deliver.
So we're losing
Find out where that number one thingneeds to be done and then focus on that.
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Same thing with your personal life.
Listen, if my marriage is in the toilet,it doesn't matter how much money I have
in the bank, or it doesn't matter howmuch time I spend with the kids, if me
and my wife are fighting all the time, itaffects how I look at everything in life.
I also go to work in a bad mood'cause they had a big fight
with my wife in the morning.
You have to look at what the effectof different things will be and
prioritize and you'll know bylooking at 'em, where will I get the
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biggest ripple effect in my life?
It's a, in nature, theycall it a trophic cascade.
Look up the videos, the videoabout the wolves of Yellowstone.
And when they reintroduce thewolves in Yellowstone, it changed
the entire dynamic of the valley.
And so I'm telling you, there'ssomething in your life that will be
the ripple effect of everything else.
Could be your faith, it could besomething about relationships,
and that's where you start.
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You start with the thing that you believewill have the biggest effect on your life.
How has faith shaped you inhow you approach just like
business and leadership?
Or just a general, likepersonal accountability.
Yeah I'm accountable as a Christ follower.
I'm accountable to God.
Someday I will stand beforehim in heaven and I will be
accountable for the life I live.
I'm not accountable to anyoneelse on the face of this earth.
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Unless I want to be, I'mnot accountable to my wife.
She has her own life.
I love my wife.
I honor my life, but the oneperson I'm accountable to is God.
So how I treat my employees, how Ispend my money, how I spend my time,
how I talk to my clients, how I raise mychildren, how I care for my neighbors,
all that stuff I'm accountable for.
The problem is we get sopoorly managed in our own life.
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That we don't have the bandwidth tocare for anybody except ourselves.
We are not healthy with our time.
We're not healthy with our bodies.
We're not healthy with ourcalendars or our money.
There's no room to be availablefor anyone else, including God.
All you gotta do is just take careof you and you barely do that.
So because of my faith and because ofthe calling that God has called me to
live a life that will give him a goodreturn, I am intentionally living the
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life that I really want to give him thebest opportunity of interrupting whatever
plans I might have to be used by himbecause I am gonna be accountable to him.
Oh, that's really good.
That's awesome.
So Robert, tell us more.
How can the audiencefind out more about you?
Follow you.
I know we have Nobody Cares book.
Definitely gotta check it out dot.com.
And also too, that's where thesatisfaction assessment is at.
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But tell the audience a little bitmore about how they can stay connected
to you and you know where to find
Yeah, I'm a businessguy, so I'm on LinkedIn.
If you do the businessside, go to LinkedIn.
I don't really do Facebook.
That's like my grandma's old socialmedia, so I'm not in that anymore.
I think right now, if I cando one, I'm happy with it.
I go to my website though.
Go to nobodycaresbook.com and get a copyof the book, fill out the satisfaction
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assessment, and then share it with me.
Send me an email saying.
Here's my satisfaction assessment.
Here's what I'm gonna work on.
I read every single email that comes inand we answer every one of 'em because
we're looking to build a communityof people who will be vulnerable
and honest about their journey.
So we can encourage each other,and that's what I want to do.
I want to walk the journey withyou, so go get the book from us.
It's available on Amazon and Barnesand Noble and all that stuff but if
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you get it from us, then we can be,we can have you on our list and we
can update you when there's workshopsgoing on or other activities,
and we want to hear your story.
Now how about, if the owner is lookingat, so how do your peer groups work?
The peer groups that youwork for in business?
Yeah, we meet every month andwe work together to create
a world of accountability.
We come in, we talk about our challengesas a business owner or a leader.
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In most cases, they're the final decisionmaker of the company, president, CEO,
general manager, those kinds of roles.
And we talk about what arethe challenges we face, and no
one tells anyone what to do.
We just listen to each otherand say here's what I did
and this is what I learned.
And then you decide.
But then when you decide, you say,okay, here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna do this.
And then 30 days later when we all getback together again, we go, how'd it go?
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So there's peer pressure for you to doit, but you create the accountability.
You say what you're gonnado and then you own it.
And now if you need help, there's12 other people in the room who'll
go, Hey, how can I help you?
What do you wanna do?
You want me to come by theoffice and watch you do it?
You want me to send some of my people over
Oh,
you?
But at the end of the day, it'syour journey and we're just there
to watch and celebrate with you.
Awesome.
How awesome.
That's I really like it.
I'm gonna check that out because I, Ithink it's definitely it is, one thing
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I say too, or I preached here a loton the show, is there's so much power
in finding people who are working onsimilar goals like yours because they
can just understand stuff a lot easier,
yeah, there's a lot of nice motivationand strength and momentum when you're
with people in the same journey.
Absolutely that it, it makes a huge thing.
It's a huge thing.
And sometimes there's too some thingsthat when we're people who are around us,
our day to day, you know, like spouse,loved ones who may not understand to
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the same extent, who are still there.
And then too, I think too I alwaystalk about just kinda like dumping.
So it gives some space for I thinksome of the others around us too,
where you have that soundboardwho's going through similar stuff.
So I definitely see alot of benefits in that.
I'm always telling people, find a group.
or make one.
If you can't find one, start one.
Or even a partner.
I've done, I've honestly made someof the biggest strides in my business
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when I was actually meeting with anaccountability partner, like a one-on-one,
just less schedules, less this,
but, there's still the power in that.
Even if you don't have oh,I have to have a group.
It doesn't have to be a group.
It could be one person.
Or anything.
As long as you're truly honest andvulnerable with them, it works.
But if you meet with someone and yousay they're your accountability partner,
and it takes the pressure off of youto do what you're supposed to do.
' cause you think I'm accountable.
I meet with someone.
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But if you don't tell 'em the truthand you don't own up to what you're
supposed to do, it doesn't work.
So Robert, tell us tell us a mantrayou live by, or some words that
you go by in your daily life.
Besides all the stuff we talked about onaccountability, the one that I'm really
focused on these days is don't be lazy.
I feel like we've, we don't even recognizeit, but we've become content to do okay.
And I think we live in America.
We're blessed, we're rich.
We have so many blessings.
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And just look around the worldat what's going on every day, and
you realize how good you got it.
And so press yourself.
Try harder, care more.
Get off your butt and do something,the laziest easy denominators.
Go to work, sit on your butt, watchTV and eat food and then reach
and repeat over and over again.
But man, there's a wholeneighborhood full of people that
don't have anyone to care for them.
And there's a whole communityof people who could use
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someone who sticks up for 'em.
And there's always an opportunity tocare for the people you work with.
So be the person who models whatyou want to see in the world.
Don't be lazy, get outthere and do something.
So Robert, thank you so much for beinga guest on the Early Accountability
podcast To the audience, make sureto go to nobodycares book.com.
In addition to getting thebook, go ahead and click on Do
the Satisfaction Assessment.
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It's under what tab is it again, under
is under resourced, but it'sactually in the book too.
Okay, it's in the book.
And on the, if you're on the website,it's resources tab, it will take
you directly to the assessment.
But if you get the book, you're gonnahave all of it in there, download it,
email the results, so Robert and histeam can help you stay accountable.
What a great step.
Great step forward to just look overalland a lot of different dimensions and
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domains like I talk about looking in amore holistic or wellness based approach.
I think that is awesomeand thank you so much.
I finally got an accountability person.
I'm so excited.
I really is so happy thataccountability dude came up my podcast.
I can't think of a betterguess I ever had on my show.
So thank you so much to the audience.
Until next time.
Kimi Walker here and welcomeback to the next episode of the
Early Accountability Podcast.
Today we have a very special guest comingto the show that I'm very excited about.
We are joined by RobertJ. Hunt, who is known as.
The accountability dude.
He's an executive coach,co-author of the book.
Nobody Cares Until You Do.
And a Trusted Guide to CEO andbusiness Leaders Navigating
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Overload, growth and Real Leadership.
He's based in Dallas-Fort Worth.
Robert brings over 20 years ofexperience in business coaching
and community leadership.
He leads CEO groups, coacheshigh performers, and helps people
define success on their own terms.
So let's dive into this powerfulconversation about purpose.
Overload and what itmeans to live accountable.
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Robert, first off, thank you.
I think you have to be myfirst guest that's like in my
realm of actual accountability.
Who uses it and says it.
It says the word accountability a lot.
So I'm really excited.
I was like, I can't wait for this.
I have another accountability person
a small community.
It's a very small community of us.
So
Yeah.
But we're hoping to make it bigger.
exactly.
So why don't you tell the audienceabout you, your journey, how you
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got here, and what made you like,get into accountability too.
It's what I do for a living.
I run peer groups for businessowners every month, and so I'm all
about how do you create a world ofaccountability in your own life?
And after watching people for years andyears succeed or fail, I found the common
element that was the different, thedefinition of the two was accountability.
Those who owned accountabilityreally did well.
And they weren't perfect.
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They made all kinds ofdecisions that weren't great
or had problems that come up.
But at the end of the day, if we owneverything in our lives, which is the
definition of accountability, you own it.
If you own it, you have thepower to do something about it.
And I've watched those peoplewho had faced really big
challenges own it and conquer it.
And although it was hard, they came outon the other side with what they wanted.
And I think people are just used tothese days not understanding what
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accountability really looks like.
Like even this morning, let's say yougot up and you're running late to work.
You get in the car and you'redriving and you're booking to get
to work, why are you late to work?
The alarm didn't go off.
That's not the alarm's fault you said it.
The alarm doesn't work for you.
And you know if the alarm isnot working, that's your deal.
And then you decide to stop and checkyour Facebook page really quick.
'cause you put something onmarketplace and you got distracted.
That's a picture of a cat on water skis.
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And next thing it's a half an hour laterand then you run out the door, you're
driving, and now you're late for work.
And when you get there, you walk inand you go, man, traffic was horrible.
Man, don't blame traffic.
That's 'cause you were late 'cause youdidn't get outta the house on time.
So we make excuses, we blame andthen everyone's mad 'cause you made
us wait for the meeting to start.
And then you make excuses.
Why are we having a meetingin the morning anyway?
We shouldn't even go over this stuff.
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Everybody already knows this.
So this kind of ripple effect ofwhat happens when we don't take
accountability in our lives.
It affects our attitude, ourrelationships, our joy in life, and then
we live as victims instead of really whatit could be, which is a victorious life.
Yes, absolutely.
A hundred percent yes.
So I was just like, oh, that's great.
This is so good.
So well first tell us, how did youget to become the accountability dude?
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How did you get the title?
Oh, I named myself accountability, dude.
There's an accountability guy inAustralia and I didn't wanna ruffle
feathers, so I'm like he's a guy.
I'll be a dude.
And I grew up in Southern California,so dude was the word I used anyway.
And even in Texas here we, wedo, we still call people dudes.
I wanted to be approachable.
I hang with business owners and CEOs allday long, but I'm just an average guy.
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I make mistakes.
I live my life to do the best I can.
God's been very kind to me.
My whole life and I wanna be approachable,so I just thought maybe I'd just be a
dude instead of the executive professoror some kind of name that made people
feel like I was smarter than that.
I'm not.
I still struggle withaccountability all the time.
I still have issues in mylife where I, but I see it.
I see it quick.
I go, okay, I'm not gonna go there.
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That's not owning it.
And I've changed my lifebecause of this awareness.
Okay.
So I do wanna ask you a questionthat I even ask myself or
think of when I look at things.
Some people think accountability istied to discipline or punishment or,
Punishment.
Yes.
What do you say to that?
Yeah.
We do think it's a punitive term,but it really is power and freedom
when you try, and one of theprinciples you have to understand is
nobody can hold anyone accountable.
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can create a world where I want to beaccountable, but it's totally up to me.
Hey Kimi, I'm gonna lose weight.
I'm gonna work out five days a weekand I'm not gonna eat donuts anymore.
And then you go, great.
I'll hold you accountable.
Then you call me the next day.
How does it go?
Do you go to the gym?
Yeah, I did.
I went to the gym and I could lie to you,you would not know unless you babysat me.
And then at the end of theweek, I gained two pounds.
And you're like, Hey, what happened?
I only went to the donut storeonce, which is, I went there five
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times, and so at the end of the day,nobody can hold you accountable.
You can't hold your employees accountablebecause they could lie to you.
And besides, you wanna run aroundtrying to babysit everyone or be in the
task master who makes people behave.
You want to create a world wherepeople want to be accountable, and
I want to be accountable becauseI understand that at the other
side of accountability is freedom.
If I don't like something in mylife and I own it, I can fix it.
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My wife and I owed $90,000 in debt
Woo.
didn't include the house or the cars.
And every year it didn't start at90, it went at five and then 20.
And then the, you know, afterfive years of struggling to get
my business where I wanted to,and we just kept spending money.
And then telling the government I owe you.
I'll pay you next year.
It got bigger and bigger.
And then finally in 2019, welooked at each other and we said,
we're not living the life we want.
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And we're miserable andwe're fighting about stuff.
We're angry at God.
We're angry at each other.
We're angry at the world.
Why don't we just ownthis crap and start over?
And so we had a house.
It had equity.
So why don't we sell thehouse and start over?
And we did.
We did just that.
We sold our home.
We downsized.
We moved into this housethat we rent today.
And we paid off every penny.
We owed everybody and we were debtfree and it was a huge change.
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But the piece it broughtin my life was remarkable.
I worried about making minimumpayments on my credit cards.
I worried about losing a client'cause I would not have enough
money to function and pay our bills.
I worried about my relationship with mywife because I felt like I constantly
said, stop spending money on that.
Why are you buying that?
We need groceries.
Things like that.
And it was so extreme.
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And so I got to a place where I reallyrealized I have all the power in the
world if I just am truly accountable.
And that's what changed my business, thatchanged my marriage, it changed my health.
Everything has gotbetter because I own it.
You could probably, oh, okay.
So you have a good topic.
I really wanna actually wanna talk aboutwhat do you, so early accountability
we're oh, the beginning stages of achange, a pivot, a new endeavor, whether
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it's personally or professionally.
What do you recommend for people whofeel like they have plateaued in this?
To area where they would like to seeimprovement or a change or a shift,
like how you and your wife did.
Okay, the day you said,Hey, we're gonna do this.
That's, like you said.
Okay, so of course we're gonna eatit bite by bite, but that is a lot.
So what do you,
There's no Dave Ramsey planto get out of a $90,000 debt.
Yes.
Look the best.
The first thing to do is startover and start and taking
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the satisfaction assessment.
Go onto our website@nobodycaresbook.comand for free.
You could take the satisfactionassessment and then be honest.
Really honest.
Like when you look at your health if,and I'm like 25 pounds overweight.
I'm acknowledging it, it's real.
But I'm not like I look great.
Don't I know you?
You know you're overweight.
Be honest with yourself, and maybeyour marriage isn't what you thought
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it would be when you first got married.
Or maybe raising kids isn'twhat you thought it would be.
Really be honest with yourself.
Where are you not satisfied?
And then ask yourself why.
And when you find yourself blamingor making excuses or saying you can't
do anything about it, or just waitingto hope it gets better somehow,
that's a trap that a victim plays.
And that's not accountability.
So you can take the assessment andyou can see, am I making excuses?
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Am I blaming anywhere?
Am I just saying I can'tmake it any better?
That's a trap, and that's the startingpoint to saying, I want to get better and
you can own it and do something about it.
Okay, so now I took the assessment andmaybe it's a little bit of a. If you say
it, I always tell people, we can't conquerwhat we won't confess or confront, so
we're gonna share it just so people cansee the, those who are watching like the
video can kind see what this looks like.
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'cause I think it's important.
Some things you just gotta visualize.
You just have to see.
Maybe we can pick me apart andsee, give me some live coaching.
And for those who are listeningand can't see this, we've got
two little pie chart wheels.
On the left side is personal satisfaction.
On the right side is businessbecause they're both important.
If I'm having a miserable life, Ishow up at work, miserable, and if I
hate my job, I bring it home with me.
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And so it's important that we take thetime to be honest about both categories.
But at the start, one of the things we canrecognize is these wheels are not round.
If I had a car that had a wheel shapelike this, I'd be driving down the
road, bouncing everywhere, and crashing.
So what we want to do is startby acknowledging that maybe we're
putting too much effort into one areaand not enough effort into another.
If your technology is doing fantastic,but your finances are bad, then you've
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gotta start putting money towardsthings that are generating more revenue.
If you're having a great timeenjoying time with friends and hanging
out, but your financial problem.
Your finances is under where you wantit to be then you need to go back and
start figuring out cheaper ways tohang with your friends and have fun.
You have choices to make, to bring upone of the levels of satisfaction, maybe
at the expense of lowering another onedown, not to make your life miserable.
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I think I'll just be unhappy with mygrowth, but I, if you're not having the
marriage relationship you want, thenyou've gotta invest some time in that.
And that's where you make a choice.
Life is all about choices.
My clients run companies, they're verybusy people, but you can't do it all.
And if at some point you decide,what do I really want in life?
And I think this assessment'sa great place to step back
and be honest with yourself.
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Okay, so based on, so wehave my chart pulled up.
So I don't know, what would you sayto me based off of what in my results?
So we have pulled up my personalsatisfaction results and my
business satisfaction results.
And I know you said it should be round
.Yeah,
And mine's not completely round.
No.
If you look at yours particularly,you've got product or service
that you value really low andyour management is really low.
So what would it take to getthose things to be higher?
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What would be some of the issuesthat you'd want to go fix?
Maybe we don't have the time to dig into get the answer right now, but you
would know what is it that I'm not doing?
To develop the product or service Iwant, or the management that I need
to have, or even from a sales andmarketing perspective, so you can
prioritize those in your efforts.
Like for us, our number one issue we wereunhappy with was our finances, but we
were also frustrated with our marriage.
We were angry at God that hewasn't fixing all of our problems.
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We were frustrated with our relationships.
There was certainly no growthand but we had to think,
where do we want to go first?
And there's a ripple effect indoing something that you should do.
When we got our finances in line,we looked at our marriage different.
When we were no longer in debt,we could enjoy life and not
and breathe a sigh of relief.
We didn't have any more moneythan we had when we were broke,
but we didn't owe any money.
So the stress was gone, and I could thinkclearly, I can make better decisions in
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my work relationships, and my businesstook off because my attitude was one of.
Of success and abundanceinstead of fear and worry.
And so they're related to each other,but you can make a decision how to
prioritize your work in one area andit will ripple effect into other areas.
okay.
I think that, and actuallythat makes a lot of sense.
So I know I know, like right now I'm,I've been looking into bringing in
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more things with, or working on itactively, like bringing in more things
with operations and like lookingat how I do management, so I think
when I really went in full forcemanagement is actually a full-time job.
It's, it actually takes a lot,like managing personnel is a lot.
It is a whole anotherjob, like it really is.
And so I think that was somethingI , wasn't maybe as prepared for
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when it comes to having multiple teammembers or a lot of different things.
You're like, wait, this is a lot training
and let me encourage you that what I'velearned is that you don't manage people.
You manage a process.
You lead people.
And so if you've got peoplethat are struggling to get.
Get things done or not doing whatyou want 'em to do, that's 'cause
you're not leading them well.
And you have to have a very clearvision of where you're going, how
we're gonna do it, what's the attitude?
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We're gonna do it with those kindsof principles that are important,
and then let them go do their job.
But if you haven't articulated how we'resupposed to do things, what we're focused
on, why we're focused on these things,no wonder they're not performing well.
You can't stand over their shoulderand say, no, that was wrong.
That was wrong.
You know that is, that'smanaging by correction.
Great leaders cast an excitingvision for their team to follow
and then get out of the way.
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Absolutely.
And it needs to be clear and written down,
Yeah,
So people can follow it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I agree.
So it, this makes per perfect sense andI do, even just looking at mine with
even on the business side, seeing theproduct or service the management low
and the sales and marketing as far asfinancial, all those intertwined to me.
I think, like you say, we work on one.
I can see how the otherones will improve as.
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Being more laser focused on
And if you get anything to a 10, then youprobably are not challenging yourself.
If your tech is at a 10 and you thinkyou're done, what else could you be doing?
What else could you be doing ifyou had another thing to work on?
For example, if I'm super excitedabout email, like I learned
how to do email well, but howmuch time is wasted on email?
Maybe I could put in some commandsthat move them into spam folders,
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or I could put in some commandsthat highlight the one important
so I don't go through on my emails.
Maybe I can build some other.
System that actually AI reviews, theemails that come in and decide to prior.
There's more things they cando in the tech area or whatever
area you think you've mastered.
You have not.
There is more to do, more efficient,better use, bigger results.
There's always somethingwe can get better at.
Yeah, I think, yeah, definitely.
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I know that especially withtechnology, I find myself.
Totally comfortable with technologyor learning some portions of new
technology, but right now is I'm alwaysinterested in, I'm always learning.
And one, I think thiscomes in accountability.
Just you can become an over learner.
Like always gotta learn something new.
Always gotta have the newest.
Thing or what have you.
Shiny object syndrome.
But my biggest one with technologynow is okay, we need to get
some of this stuff automated.
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'cause if I'm having to separately godo this separately, go do that set.
Wait another thing, here'sa whole another job.
But how can these systems intertwine?
Because what ends up, same thing.
It becomes a whole another job of manuallydoing this or going over here to do
that and going, so you really start tolook at, hey also too, what's needed?
What's, what do I need?
Minimal viable, like what?
Do I really have to have all of this?
Is it just the bells and whistle?
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Is this a shiny object syndromeor is this a core need that can
improve or enhance something?
Or like you said, or am I gonnaget just too drowned in this, that
it's not, worth it at the end.
tend to put a lot of time into thingswe enjoy or that we're good at.
But there's a fit for use applicationthat says, that's good enough
Get off of that and let's go work on thethings that are struggling to survive.
Because if you like it, you'llspend more and more time on it.
Oh, AI is so fun, so cute, so exciting.
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And you'll just learn and learn.
But hey, your wholebusiness is struggling.
You're not getting any ordersand you're losing money, but
you're learning a lot about ai,so you have to really be careful.
Don't allow yourself to go into somethingthat's just fun or sexy or exciting.
Put your plan together.
Be in a discipline to, to followwhat you've committed to do.
And again, back to accountability.
Invite people into your journeyto say, here's where I'm gonna go.
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This is what I'm gonna work on.
And then review it against them.
So they go, wait, you said you'd behaving this level of sales by now.
What?
What have you been doing?
I've been learning ai.
I am really excited about, Hey,that's not moving the needle.
You're not making any money.
And so you have to be able to have aplan and then share it with someone
else that's creating accountability.
They won't babysit you or makeyou do it, but they'll be peer
pressure to make you wanna do it.
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'cause they're gonna ask you.
Yes.
And you bring a pointI wanted to talk about.
So the intertwining of accountability andproductivity or busyness, I think we're
in the, everybody is super, really busy.
And how do you help people withbeing able to be self-aware of.
The difference betweenproductivity and accountability
I think the bit the difference, or we'dfocus on it between productivity and busy.
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Because accountability ishow you handle those two.
Busy.
Busy is a busy, is a new stupid.
And people love to saythough, how busy I was.
Oh, I worked till 11 o'clock last night.
Oh, I worked on Saturday.
It's a badge of honor.
Look, if you can't do your jobMonday through Friday, nine to
five, you're not good at it.
Or there's a problem with
in the system.
Yeah, you have too much on you.
Yeah.
There's there something's wrong.
You create a world, you don't, no one.
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I know all of my clients whoown their own businesses.
No, none of 'em want someone first thingin the morning, staying late at night,
ignoring their family, burning the candle.
They don't want that.
They want them to go home.
They want them to be attheir kids' baseball game.
They want to be able to take vacationsbecause they want to keep 'em.
And if you get burnedout, you're not any good.
You're angry.
You're bitter at the world,you're rude to people.
You're not fun to be around.
So we, as leaders, wewant you to have a life.
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So being busy is not right.
You need to be focused whenyou have prioritization.
You know what you want to work on,and then you stay focused on that.
You get the results you want, buthaving someone sit at their cubicle
for eight hours and then go homedoesn't mean they did anything all day.
It's really where we communicate what'simportant and we prioritize against that.
And what do you, so looking at the will,is that what you would say would be
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a good guide to see what areas peoplelooking at your results, will, this
is what you could or should prioritize
Yeah, you could.
Again, it's your life.
You could do whatever you wannado with the results of this.
But let's say I look and Isay, look, sales is really low.
If I don't get sales, I'mgonna be out of business.
So that's my number one focus.
So how do I let tech just leave it alone?
It's fine.
Whatever you got is good enough fit foryears, then I'll go work on my sales.
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Then when the sales is up,it'll be easier to manage.
Why?
Because everyone will be busy.
They'll be doing stuff I won'thave to be worried about.
What can I have you do?
And things are down.
I don't.
We have a cadence and wehave some consistency.
We can scale and get better.
So focusing on sales maybe the way to go do that.
Or maybe it's cashflow.
Maybe we don't have enough inventory.
Therefore, when people call toorder stuff, we can't deliver.
So we're losing
Find out where that number one thingneeds to be done and then focus on that.
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Same thing with your personal life.
Listen, if my marriage is in the toilet,it doesn't matter how much money I have
in the bank, or it doesn't matter howmuch time I spend with the kids, if me
and my wife are fighting all the time, itaffects how I look at everything in life.
I also go to work in a bad mood'cause they had a big fight
with my wife in the morning.
You have to look at what the effectof different things will be and
prioritize and you'll know bylooking at 'em, where will I get the
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biggest ripple effect in my life?
It's a, in nature, theycall it a trophic cascade.
Look up the videos, the videoabout the wolves of Yellowstone.
And when they reintroduce thewolves in Yellowstone, it changed
the entire dynamic of the valley.
And so I'm telling you, there'ssomething in your life that will be
the ripple effect of everything else.
Could be your faith, it could besomething about relationships,
and that's where you start.
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You start with the thing that you believewill have the biggest effect on your life.
How has faith shaped you inhow you approach just like
business and leadership?
Or just a general, likepersonal accountability.
Yeah I'm accountable as a Christ follower.
I'm accountable to God.
Someday I will stand beforehim in heaven and I will be
accountable for the life I live.
I'm not accountable to anyoneelse on the face of this earth.
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Unless I want to be, I'mnot accountable to my wife.
She has her own life.
I love my wife.
I honor my life, but the oneperson I'm accountable to is God.
So how I treat my employees, how Ispend my money, how I spend my time,
how I talk to my clients, how I raise mychildren, how I care for my neighbors,
all that stuff I'm accountable for.
The problem is we get sopoorly managed in our own life.
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That we don't have the bandwidth tocare for anybody except ourselves.
We are not healthy with our time.
We're not healthy with our bodies.
We're not healthy with ourcalendars or our money.
There's no room to be availablefor anyone else, including God.
All you gotta do is just take careof you and you barely do that.
So because of my faith and because ofthe calling that God has called me to
live a life that will give him a goodreturn, I am intentionally living the
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life that I really want to give him thebest opportunity of interrupting whatever
plans I might have to be used by himbecause I am gonna be accountable to him.
Oh, that's really good.
That's awesome.
So Robert, tell us more.
How can the audiencefind out more about you?
Follow you.
I know we have Nobody Cares book.
Definitely gotta check it out dot.com.
And also too, that's where thesatisfaction assessment is at.
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But tell the audience a little bitmore about how they can stay connected
to you and you know where to find
Yeah, I'm a businessguy, so I'm on LinkedIn.
If you do the businessside, go to LinkedIn.
I don't really do Facebook.
That's like my grandma's old socialmedia, so I'm not in that anymore.
I think right now, if I cando one, I'm happy with it.
I go to my website though.
Go to nobodycaresbook.com and get a copyof the book, fill out the satisfaction
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assessment, and then share it with me.
Send me an email saying.
Here's my satisfaction assessment.
Here's what I'm gonna work on.
I read every single email that comes inand we answer every one of 'em because
we're looking to build a communityof people who will be vulnerable
and honest about their journey.
So we can encourage each other,and that's what I want to do.
I want to walk the journey withyou, so go get the book from us.
It's available on Amazon and Barnesand Noble and all that stuff but if
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you get it from us, then we can be,we can have you on our list and we
can update you when there's workshopsgoing on or other activities,
and we want to hear your story.
Now how about, if the owner is lookingat, so how do your peer groups work?
The peer groups that youwork for in business?
Yeah, we meet every month andwe work together to create
a world of accountability.
We come in, we talk about our challengesas a business owner or a leader.
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In most cases, they're the final decisionmaker of the company, president, CEO,
general manager, those kinds of roles.
And we talk about what arethe challenges we face, and no
one tells anyone what to do.
We just listen to each otherand say here's what I did
and this is what I learned.
And then you decide.
But then when you decide, you say,okay, here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna do this.
And then 30 days later when we all getback together again, we go, how'd it go?
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So there's peer pressure for you to doit, but you create the accountability.
You say what you're gonnado and then you own it.
And now if you need help, there's12 other people in the room who'll
go, Hey, how can I help you?
What do you wanna do?
You want me to come by theoffice and watch you do it?
You want me to send some of my people over
Oh,
you?
But at the end of the day, it'syour journey and we're just there
to watch and celebrate with you.
Awesome.
How awesome.
That's I really like it.
I'm gonna check that out because I, Ithink it's definitely it is, one thing
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I say too, or I preached here a loton the show, is there's so much power
in finding people who are working onsimilar goals like yours because they
can just understand stuff a lot easier,
yeah, there's a lot of nice motivationand strength and momentum when you're
with people in the same journey.
Absolutely that it, it makes a huge thing.
It's a huge thing.
And sometimes there's too some thingsthat when we're people who are around us,
our day to day, you know, like spouse,loved ones who may not understand to
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the same extent, who are still there.
And then too, I think too I alwaystalk about just kinda like dumping.
So it gives some space for I thinksome of the others around us too,
where you have that soundboardwho's going through similar stuff.
So I definitely see alot of benefits in that.
I'm always telling people, find a group.
or make one.
If you can't find one, start one.
Or even a partner.
I've done, I've honestly made someof the biggest strides in my business
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when I was actually meeting with anaccountability partner, like a one-on-one,
just less schedules, less this,
but, there's still the power in that.
Even if you don't have oh,I have to have a group.
It doesn't have to be a group.
It could be one person.
Or anything.
As long as you're truly honest andvulnerable with them, it works.
But if you meet with someone and yousay they're your accountability partner,
and it takes the pressure off of youto do what you're supposed to do.
' cause you think I'm accountable.
I meet with someone.
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But if you don't tell 'em the truthand you don't own up to what you're
supposed to do, it doesn't work.
So Robert, tell us tell us a mantrayou live by, or some words that
you go by in your daily life.
Besides all the stuff we talked about onaccountability, the one that I'm really
focused on these days is don't be lazy.
I feel like we've, we don't even recognizeit, but we've become content to do okay.
And I think we live in America.
We're blessed, we're rich.
We have so many blessings.
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And just look around the worldat what's going on every day, and
you realize how good you got it.
And so press yourself.
Try harder, care more.
Get off your butt and do something,the laziest easy denominators.
Go to work, sit on your butt, watchTV and eat food and then reach
and repeat over and over again.
But man, there's a wholeneighborhood full of people that
don't have anyone to care for them.
And there's a whole communityof people who could use
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someone who sticks up for 'em.
And there's always an opportunity tocare for the people you work with.
So be the person who models whatyou want to see in the world.
Don't be lazy, get outthere and do something.
So Robert, thank you so much for beinga guest on the Early Accountability
podcast To the audience, make sureto go to nobodycares book.com.
In addition to getting thebook, go ahead and click on Do
the Satisfaction Assessment.
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It's under what tab is it again, under
is under resourced, but it'sactually in the book too.
Okay, it's in the book.
And on the, if you're on the website,it's resources tab, it will take
you directly to the assessment.
But if you get the book, you're gonnahave all of it in there, download it,
email the results, so Robert and histeam can help you stay accountable.
What a great step.
Great step forward to just look overalland a lot of different dimensions and
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domains like I talk about looking in amore holistic or wellness based approach.
I think that is awesomeand thank you so much.
I finally got an accountability person.
I'm so excited.
I really is so happy thataccountability dude came up my podcast.
I can't think of a betterguess I ever had on my show.
So thank you so much to the audience.
Until next time.
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