September 15, 2025 • 33 mins
In this inspiring episode of the Early Accountability Podcast, host Kimi Walker welcomes Mitchell Osmond, high-performance coach and founder of Dad Nation, a transformative movement and podcast empowering career-driven men to reclaim their home, health, and happiness. Mitchell opens up about his powerful personal journey—growing up in a dysfunctional family, grappling with self-sabotage, and facing financial, marital, and health crises, only to transform his life and now uplift thousands of men through his mission-based community and coaching practice.
Throughout the conversation, Kimi and Mitchell dive into the challenges that high-performing individuals face when trying to balance professional ambition with personal relationships and self-care. Mitchell shares the practical frameworks he uses, including the Life Report Card, boundary setting, and his “four Cs” of leadership: community, clarity, consistency, and confidence. Whether discussing how to define success on your own terms, strategies for creating lasting habits, or the importance of modeling legacy for your family, Mitchell offers actionable wisdom and a reminder that true impact starts at home—and that intentionality, accountability, and grace are the keys to lasting change.
Topics Covered in This Episode
- Reclaiming home, health, and happiness through intentional accountability
- The “Life Report Card” and redefining balance across life’s seasons
- How to set clear boundaries and prioritize what truly matters
- The four pillars of leadership: community, clarity, consistency, and confidence
- Building legacy by modeling behaviors and breaking generational cycles
- Systems, time-blocking, and the Eisenhower Matrix for focus and impact
About Mitchell Osmond
Mitchell Osmond is a leadership consultant, executive coach, and host of the Dad Nation Podcast, which reaches over 34,000 monthly listeners. With more than 15 years of senior leadership experience, Mitchell is passionate about helping high-performing individuals thrive not just in their careers, but also in their homes and personal lives. Through coaching, speaking engagements, and his digital presence, Mitchell empowers men to lead with purpose, balance success across all areas of life, and build lasting legacies. His mission is clear—help leaders win at work without losing at home.
Connect with Mitchell Osmond
- Instagram: @dadnationco
- Email: mitchell@dadnationco.com
Connect with Kimi Walker:
- Visit: earlyaccountability.com
- LinkedIn: Kimi Walker
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Okay, Kimi Walker here and welcomeback to the next episode of the
Early Accountability Podcast.
Today here on the show we haveMitchell, who is the host of
the Dad Nation podcast, which isactually more than just a podcast.
It's actually really a movement.
We have over, over 34,000 monthlylisteners on the podcast alone.
So Mitchell, why don't you come and firstjust tell us about what is that nation?
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How did you start this?
What is this?
And tell us just a little bit moreabout you and your background.
Yeah, so well, thank you first ofall for having me on the show, Kimi.
I really appreciate this and I'mlooking forward to having this
conversation with you and your listeners.
But for me what Dad Nation is justsimply, like you said, it's a movement
of men who really want to become better.
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For their families, for themselves,to re you know the slogan we use is to
reclaim their home health and happiness.
And so the three things we talk a lotabout are people who want to have stronger
marriages, who want to be in bettershape, not just for themselves, but to
model this for their children and formen who want to have more self-confidence
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and eliminate that self-sabotage.
A lot of my clients anda lot of my listeners.
Lot of the people inthe community are, yeah.
Which you would call 'em high performersor people who have built businesses,
CEOs, VPs, things like that, who have seenprofessional success but are struggling.
Their life is a bit of a personalmess, if you will, and and they've
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acquired wealth, they've acquiredbusinesses, all that stuff.
But now they're turningaround, they're saying.
I have all this money, but I don'teven know how to talk to my own wife,
or I don't know my kids anymore,or I've gained 50 pounds, or I
got a bad health diagnosis, or I'mstruggling with the imposter syndrome.
What do I do now?
And so the whole mission of the dad nationis to help men show up more powerfully.
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Just as powerfully athome as they do at work.
And so I let, that's a bit ofthe mission and the reason why I
started this was because I grewup in a dysfunctional home myself.
I was raised my home wasmarked by alcohol, crime,
drug abuse, things like that.
I had an alcoholic father.
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And so I struggled a lot in my lifeand and grew up in the midst of
this sort of dysfunctional home.
And, I was the youngest of threeand I had a bit of a savior complex.
I was always trying to keepthings together for the family.
I was the golden child, if you will.
And I thought I had it handled,but then I got married and then
the wounds really of my childhoodbegan to bleed out into my marriage.
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And three years in we foundourselves on the verge of divorce.
I was let go of the seniorleadership position and I was
50 pounds, 60 pounds overweight.
We were over a hundred grand in debt.
And I was medicating with alcohol anddrugs, just trying to deal with my own
frustration with where I was at in life.
And I was about to lose my wife.
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And there was a moment I had at a funeral.
I was singing at this funeral,I'm a musician as well, just for
fun, but it the funeral was ofthis philanthropic wealthy man.
And as the pastor was wrapping up themessage, he asked the congregation, are
you living a life worthy of imitation?
And as I began to strapout my guitar and play.
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The last song, I could barely choke atthe lyrics because I thought to myself in
that moment, man, if I walk out of thischurch and I get hit by a bus, nobody is
gonna say, man, I wanna live like Mitch.
I wanna have the marriage he had,I wanna have the bank account He
had, all those different things.
And so the next day I got towork and I took ownership.
And within a year and a half.
We completely restored our marriage.
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I lost 60 pounds, became lean, confident,paid off the a hundred grand of
debt, got clean, got sober, and beganto just help my friends around me.
'cause obviously they were alllike, what are you doing, man?
What's going on?
How are you doing this?
Which then led me to launch the podcastto share these principles with the world.
And then before I knew it, I had people chchiming in all over North America and then
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asking me, Hey, could you help me too?
And that's what launchedmy coaching practice.
So over the last year and a half, thisis relatively new, but over the last year
and a half I've launched the podcast andlaunched a six figure coaching practice
based off of the principles that I'velearned in applying it to my own life.
And that's how I got here.
Oh wow, that's awesome.
So I love, so you have a lot aboutholistic success and early action.
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It's just intertwined into you.
So here at early accountability, we'rereally about those early stages of a new
endeavor or a lifestyle shift, right?
Or a pivot, whether it'spersonally or professionally.
And you've done both in both sectors.
What would you say is critical?
And as far as like thinking of earlyaccountability when it comes to setting
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the foundation for someone who feelslike they need to go and start to
achieve more holistic balance, likeyou said okay, my finances, my personal
relationships, my this, I need tobecome more balanced holistically,
and a lot of different domains.
What do you say are some steps orsome things that you say or that you
give in coaching as far as Hey, whatare some, what's that early start?
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What's the kind of game plan?
What's the coaching look like that, right?
What are some strategies yougive for starting strong?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a great question andthank you for asking it, Kimi.
I think there's two thingsthat immediately come to mind.
Number one is, and I struggle a littlebit the word with the word of balance,
because every different season.
Is different and requiresdifferent things of you.
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And so I do an exercise with myclients called the Life Report Card.
And we do this every quarter.
And the reason why we do this and I'llcome back to the second point about
beginning with the end of mind, butthe life report card exercise, it's,
because we've been grown up in theeducation system that taught us what
do you, what's the goal in school?
Straight A's, get an A ineverything possible no matter what.
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And we were raised in that kind of system.
And but realistically, if you werea parent, if you have, a job, you
got multiple kids, you want toget in shape, you wanna do all
these different things, you can'talways be an a plus in everything.
And so there's gonna be someseasons where you might have to.
Turn that A into a B,or maybe even a B minus.
When my first son was born,I was like, oh, I can't train
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six times a week anymore.
Okay, so now that a plus is gonna becomemaybe a B minus, and that's okay for
a season until I get a new rhythm.
So understanding andhaving grace for yourself.
And knowing that this is a journeysuccess, these pivots, you have
to have grace with yourself andunderstand that there is no such
thing as a perfect linear line.
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That there's it, there's gonnabe, there's gonna be adversities,
there's gonna be challenges, butover the course of the, the journey,
you're on an upward trajectory.
So helping clients get reallyclear on what's most important
in this season, right?
Maybe we.
We spend a little less time togetherbecause I gotta push in this career
for a moment or maybe I pull backfrom work a little bit because
I need to invest in my marriage.
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Those different things.
And so having clarity about that,understanding the season you're in, and
knowing what's required of you, and beingokay with maybe letting some things just.
Putting some things on the back burner.
You're essentially, if you picturejust the stove top, you're essentially
just moving pots around, right?
Every different season.
And so the second thing when you startthat journey with giving yourself
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grace and understanding that, thatthis journey will come with adversities
and movement, and that's part of it.
The second thing we need to dois to begin with the end in mind.
Okay?
Stephen Covey in his book, theSeven Habits of Highly Effective
People, which are one of the mostfamous books written on leadership
development number or chapter two iscalled Begin With the End in Mind.
Napoleon Hill says, beginwith the end in mind.
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And so we must know where we're going.
We must define and determinewhat success looks like for us.
Because if so for example, Kimi, if I saidto you, I wanna go to the beach, let's
go to the beach, and I just hit beach.
The GPS, that could take me through thewest coast to the east coast, south.
It could take me wherever, right?
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And I don't know if I'm gonnabe happy with where I end up.
So I have to get very clear on what,where I'm going and what I'm doing.
And for example, with a lot of theclients I work with, I actually
walk them through a eulogy exercise.
It was very visceral.
And, I essentially fabricatethat funeral moment I had.
And I say, and I get them towrite their own eulogy from the
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perspective of their spouse or fromthe perspective of the children.
What would you like them to say aboutthe man that you are, or the mother
you are, whoever, when your time isup and you're gonna write that out.
And if you were to die today,what would they say about you?
And that gap between who you aretoday and how you want to be known
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by your children and the people youlove the most, the legacy that you're
leaving or how you want to be known.
That gap is where we need to grow, right?
That gap is where that tension comesin, that sometimes that frustration
where I'm not who I'm called to be,I'm not living up to my full potential.
And so beginning with the end ofmind, getting very clear on exactly
what success looks like for me,and then reverse engineering that.
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Into yearly, monthly, weekly daily actionsteps to see that future come to fruition.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You brought up a good pointjust about, like you said who
are you, who do you show up?
How did these peoplelook at you and view you?
So you have a lot of experiencein leadership, so over 15 years in
leadership, senior leadership at that,what practices or mindsets have you
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found to be very effective when itcomes to I guess your long-term vision
or goals and being able to balance likeyour leadership development but also
your personal growth, especially ifyou have a lot of professional demands.
And I think why I think this isreally important, I really wanted to
talk about it too, especially comingfrom like the dad nation or man.
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There's a lot of times a lot ofexpectations, I think, in society
and personally to be, may really tobe like the leader or to take care
of, or if something happens, youhave to be able to like handle this.
What kind of mindset shifts ormodalities would you suggest in
that realm or what have you done?
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Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm gonna hit you with it.
I'm just writing some thingsdown as I'm thinking about 'em,
'cause I don't wanna lose them.
So for me there's four major qualitiesthat I see the most successful leaders.
There are four qualities that thatthese, that when I embodied them, they're
what really turned my life around.
Okay.
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So number one is community.
Surrounding yourself withlike-minded individuals who
your ceiling is their floor.
That they live where you want to be.
You understand what I mean?
These people will come aroundyou, they'll support you.
They will not only, they'll, not onlywill they show you what's possible
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in your life, but they'll giveyou the exact steps to get there,
and they'll hold you accountablebecause it's gonna be hard, right?
There's gonna be challenges.
Like we said, you're gonna face adversity,so surrounding yourself with men or
women or whatever your situation is.
With people who can hold you to thestandard that you're setting for yourself
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or the success that you say that you want.
That's why I created theDad Nation Coalition.
It's literally a community of menwho are like-minded, who want to
see success in their home, theirhealth and their happiness, right?
We hold each other accountable.
So that's number one.
Community.
Number two, they're all Cs.
I love alliteration.
The second one is clarity.
Like I alluded to this before.
Getting crystal clear on whereyou want to go so that when you
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get there, you know you're there.
Most people don't evenknow what they want.
Some of my clients are like seven,seven figure men who are running like
multiple seven figure businesses,and I say, what do you want?
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm like, what do you mean you don't know?
How do you get here and notknow what you, but they have no
clarity and they're burned out.
They're stressed out.
So was that.
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And everybody thinks it's so great.
Totally.
So it was community clarity.
Okay.
Confidence.
And consistency.
These are the last twoand they're related.
Okay, so consistency is grit.
It's showing up day after day, right?
Steve Jobs said at one point, hesaid, business at the end of the
day is just a game of attrition.
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The last person left standing wins, right?
And so can you continue?
Can you be consistentwith following through?
That's one of the most I thinkunderrated skills in the world, being
consistent and hammering out, pursuingthis vision, whatever the case is.
And the reason why that's connectedto the last one, which is confidence.
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Is because we break promisesto ourselves all the time.
And I talk a lot about confidencebecause at the end of the day,
confidence, a lack of self-confidencecomes from when you break promises
when you're inconsistent with yourself.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
'cause Kimi, if I say to myself,I'm gonna wake up six o'clock in the
morning and I'm gonna go to the gym,and then the day one, I don't do it.
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Day two, I don't do it.
What happens?
Even though no one else knows in mylife that I broke this promise inside,
I know my subconscious mind knows,and it begins to say things like,
why would anyone ever trust your wordif you can't even trust yourself?
And so you begin to your rapportwith yourself begins to erode and
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you begin to lose self confidence.
Like you would lose confidencein any relationship where
somebody didn't show up.
And so the importance of consistencyis because you need to make promises
to yourself and keep them, andthat's the way you gain, you regain.
Self-confidence, you gainself-report, you begin to stack wins.
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And that makes it easier than to be moreconsistent and to be more confident.
And there's a concept called theconfidence competence loop, which
is, and you can Google this, it'sfascinating, but that's how it works is
you gain competency because you've beenconfident in taking that first step.
And then when you have the confidence totake that first step you do the thing, you
become more competent, which then makesyou more confident to be more competent.
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And before you know it you gain thatself-confidence back for, so those four
things for me are some of the biggestmarkers of success as people grow.
It's funny you went into a question.
I really wanted to.
To ask you about was consistency,so having a personal and
professional consistency.
So a lot of high performers may nothave the same level of discipline in
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different sectors of their life, solet's say personally or professionally.
What kind of, what methodsdo you teach your client?
Like you said, I know you said,okay, when you show up for yourself.
You become more confident in yourself.
What do you teach as far asfostering consistency in both,
let's say your career and yourlike family or personal wellbeing?
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So not having, trying to avoid trade-offsor this black and white oh, I'm doing
really great at home right now, butI'm really feeling everybody at my
job, or I'm going up the ladder here,but I haven't been to any of my kids'
baseball games or taking time to do this.
And that, so how, what would you,what do you say, what do you give
as far as coaching tips for that?
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Yeah that's a fantastic question.
So there's a couple thingsthat come to my mind.
And it's so funny.
I was having this conversation with aclient this morning and, and he, what
we need to do is get clear on our why.
Okay?
Why are you doing what you're doing?
Because here's the thing, themoment you say yes to something
or someone else is getting a no.
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You understand what I mean?
And so you have to understandwhat gets my automatic yes.
Because I know that whatever, get,whatever I choose to give that yes
to something else and somewherein my life is gonna get a no.
When I say yes to this businessopportunity, prob that's gonna require
me to take some evening meetings,that's a no to my wife and kids.
When I say I'm gonna sleep inand skip the gym, then that's
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a no to my health and wellness.
So understanding that conceptof there is no, you don't have,
you can't generate more yeses.
You can't take, makemore time than 24 hours.
And so by virtue of saying yes tosomething, something else is getting a no.
And so understanding what are yougiving your yes to, because at the
end of the day, time is the onlycurrency that we spend without
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knowing the remaining balance,
That's true.
We spend this currency all the time.
We don't know what the balance,Kimi, I could get off this call
and get hit by a bus tomorrow andI just gave you one of the last 60
minute chunks of my life, right?
And so we have to get crystal clear onwhy we're doing what we're doing, right?
Because if not, we start doingeverything everywhere, and we
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get stressed out and we can't.
We talk about the juggling.
We're overwhelmed.
And so I think a lot of people biteoff more than they can chew, right?
And so with my clients, it's thatquestion of what matters the most to you?
What gets your automatic Yes.
I had a client who was talking to me theother day about, he was in his office
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working at six thirty at night and he wasworking on a proposal and he said, yeah,
my son kept coming in and interrupting me.
My son kept coming in and he wasjust an inconvenience, 'cause he
wanted to throw the ball around andhe was distracting me from my work
and I said, Hey man let's maybe just.
Pause this for a momentand then think about this.
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What if your son was the work?
What if your son is the realmission and your, what you're,
whatever you're working on rightnow is actually the inconvenience.
Whatever you're working on rightnow actually is not the work
and what you really need to bedoing is paying attention to the
family you're trying to foster.
And I didn't say hey.
This is your situation, but whatif it was, how do you see your
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children as an inconvenience or doyou see them as the mission, right?
Or is your job the mission?
And I don't, I'm not gonna judge youif your career is that, and you don't
care about what, not my place to judge,but it seems as though you don't know.
Because you talk to me about youwanna be a better father and you
wanna be a better husband, but yetyou keep prioritizing work over them.
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And so what happens is your relationshipswith your kids deteriorate and your
wife deteriorates, which makes you moreanxious and more frustrated, but yet
you keep choosing everything over them.
And so what's the key to contentment?
Was understanding what gets your yesand being unapologetically about that.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna work from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PMI'm gonna spend this time with my family.
I'm gonna put my kids down andthen I'm gonna go to work if I
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You understand what I mean?
Yeah.
Creating like boundaries.
Exactly, that's exactly what it is.
Creating boundaries and beingunapologetically about them and
communicating those boundariesto those that you love.
And, maybe if you're listening and youwork for a corporation, understanding
how to comm, how to set up those healthyboundaries with your bosses, your
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colleagues, Hey guys, I'm not gonna take.
Calls after 7:00 PM or I'mnot going to, whatever.
And I work with CEOs and they're doingit all the time, and I say, listen,
man, by the very nature of sendingthat text or sending that email at nine
o'clock at night, you're then givingyour employees permission to do the same
and to email you back, which then makesit even harder for you not to respond.
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You're modeling, you're always modeling.
So anyways, that's a that'sone thing we talk about.
It is great too.
Now you can schedule the emailseven if you're doing scheduled
to send at a different time.
So it just doesn't feel like you'reconstantly, I know that it's a big one.
Constantly feel like you're workingaround the clock, even if you times are.
And I think, like you said, I thinkthat helps even when you say that
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too, that can create, honestly,that may even create relief for
people who you're working with too.
Hey, we're we have a culture of.
Boundaries, and people can show up, Ithink better too when they're per having,
better success in their own personal livestoo, as far as their work performance.
You think about it like this, cansay we're in a situation where I am.
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I am you and I are working together.
I say Kimi especially if I'm theboss, I say, I'm really trying my
best not to answer work emails after6:00 PM 'cause my son has a soccer
game and I really wanna show up.
I wanna be a better ho husband.
Or we gotta, I got a date nightwith my wife tonight I'm just not,
I'm not gonna be answering emails.
Who in the right mind wouldsay, ah, that's ridiculous.
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You should be answering your emails.
Or you should, I should beNo, no one's gonna think that.
They're gonna be like, that'sactually, that's amazing.
You know what?
And they're gonna do a self-audit, they'regonna be like, maybe I should do that too,
because it's contagious and it spreads.
And so leaders often don't have thoseconversations because they don't
wanna appear as weak or not committedwhen in fact if they did have those
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conversation and have the courage tosay it, they'd be respected even more.
And spread this contagion in apositive note of creating a culture
of an organization that shows up whereit matters most, which is at home.
Okay, perfect.
That's perfect.
That's great.
So I do wanna talk a littlebit more about just legacies.
You talk a lot and teach a lot aboutencouraging people, especially dads,
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to build lessing legacies that.
By thriving to their best oftheir ability that they wanna
be in, in many areas of life.
So you have been leveraging yourinfluence for impact, right?
So you have the Dad Nation podcastwhich has a huge humongous reach.
How do you.
Ensure your visibility, which is big.
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We talk about that a lot here on the show.
And how do you effectively leverage youronline, like influence your community,
your equipment to lead their families?
What have you put in place foryourself as far as like systems
so that you can maintain like theconsistency and impact of your message?
Because people don't necessarilyalways understand how.
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Much goes on the backside as far as likecontent or creating consistency, or you
have a community, like keeping peopleengaged is very hard in this day and age.
Very hard to keep like engagementfor stuff that's not the
latest bad or, things of that.
So how do you do and what kind of systemshave you put in yourself for your pla,
excuse me, what kind of systems have youput in place for yourself regarding that?
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Yeah, for me it's creating liketime blocking, for creating
time to create content.
One of the things that I spent the mosttime on is getting clarity in my message.
I. I think a lot of people, when theystart out in business, they want to they
want to be all things to all people, andthey want to offer, help for everyone.
And I'm like that's great, but if you'retrying to appeal to everybody, you're
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actually appealing to no one, right?
Because no one feels likeyou're speaking to them.
And so for me, the biggest thingthat I worked on in the beginning
was getting, first of all, gettingincredibly crystal clear about my
vision that I'm serving one person.
I'm serving the career driven manwho wants to reclaim their home,
their health and their happiness.
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That's who I serve, right?
And so when I write, when I writemy content, when I post my Instagram
posts, when I make, blog posts orcoaching videos or whatever, it's all
based around that one man, and I speakto that man, and when I coach the
same man over and over again because.
That's what allows me to become anexpert and I can get incredibly surgical
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because it's always the same problems,versus saying I help men be better.
What does that mean?
Be better basketball players.
Very true.
Very true.
Better, I don't know.
Like.
Better in the kitchen.
It could be literally anything.
And so being very clear on your vision andwho you're trying to serve is number one.
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So the vision and then the vehicle,like how are you serving them?
Are you serving them through, sofor another thing that I say and
because a lot of times peopleask me, how do you help people?
I say, I help people through content,through coaching and through courses.
Those three Cs.
So content is the donation podcast, right?
Instagram, things like that.
The courses is called the High PerformanceHusband, which is all of my content that I
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teach in a digital course format, and thencoaching, which is what I do with the men.
And so it's very simple.
If you wanna know how to gethelp, this is how I do it.
These are the three things,this is the vision that I do.
And then, so outside of that, Idon't really pay a lot of the time.
I don't.
I outsource a lot of the things that, thatanyone can do, like responding to emails,
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podcast bookings, things like that.
Because any, I can get anyone to do that.
That doesn't require myunique ability, what my unique
ability needs to be used in.
Is creating content and helpingmen with the specific cha
challenges that they face.
And only I can do that.
No one else can do that.
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And it's, it kinda goes back to theEisenhower Matrix, which I don't know
if you've have heard of, but essentiallythe Eisenhower Matrix is a way of
categorizing what's most important.
And one of them, and you can Google thisat another time, your listeners can, but
the things that are urgent and important.
Are the things that needyour time and attention.
You need to execute on those things,but there are a lot of things that
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are important, but not urgent.
Very good.
Yeah.
Okay, this is important.
Now I need to decide about that.
I don't necessarily need to do it.
That might be a date night thatneeds to happen sometime this week.
Is that urgent?
No.
Or that might be a proposal thatneeds to be drafted within a month.
Okay.
But it's not urgent.
It's important.
Now, I still might have todo it, but it's not pressing.
Right.
And then there are things that arenot important and also not urgent.
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Those are things that Ican just delegate, right?
But the urgent and the important thingsare the things that only I can do.
And so for your listeners, if youjust Google the Eisenhower Matrix,
you can see lots of templates.
I essentially just take my dailytasks and plot them out on the
matrix, and I say, out of these fourquadrants, 'cause that's what it is.
What do I have to delegate?
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What do I have to delete?
What I have to decide on.
And the last thing is,what do I have to do?
And really the only thing thatI personally am doing is the
urgent and important things.
'cause those are the onlythings that only I can do.
And so for me, that's creating content.
For me, that's showing up on,coaching calls on podcasts.
Like obviously nobody cancome in and be me on a show.
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But can someone sendan email on my behalf?
Absolutely.
Can someone manage my calendar?
Absolutely.
Can they do my graphic designor edit my podcast episodes?
Yes.
So I don't need to do that and Ican't afford to do that because I
have to show up in other powerfulways for my son, for my wife.
And this goes back to balance, right?
Understanding that time is themost precious currency we have.
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And because we don't know how muchwe have left, we need to be very
intentional about how we spend it.
So if I only have 60 minutes,then I need to understand the
best way to use that 60 minutes.
So I'm gonna pay other people to dothe other things, and I'm gonna get
really focused on what only I can do.
Does that make sense?
Only I can love my wife only Ican be my A father to my son.
Okay?
So I need to be doing that as well, right?
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Okay, Mitchell, so tell us where can theaudience find out more All Dead Nation
and where can they listen to the podcast?
Just where can the audience go tokeep in contact with you and stay
in alignment with your mission?
Yeah.
Thanks for asking and honestly, thankyou for just allowing me to share Kimi
I think that the simplest thing is ifthis conversation resonated with you and
you're listening I got a free gift forall of your listeners if they, and it's
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just called the connection code, whichis 50 questions to spark the fun and get
the fire back in your marriage, right?
So if conversation is grown dull,you feel a little bit more like
roommates rather than soulmates.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes those things happen,and this is just 50 of my favorite
questions, which is powerful.
You can use that on date nights.
You can use it whenever youwant to reconnect as a couple.
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So you can download that andI'll give you the link to, you
can download in the show notes.
But but then secondly, yeah,listen to the Dad Nation podcast.
If you're listening on YouTube,subscribe to the channel.
We have tons and tons ofhigh level guest experts.
We teach on.
Fatherhood, we talk about fitness, wetalk about finances, we talk about,
you name it tons and tons of stuff.
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And yeah, you can checkout the Dad Nation podcast.
And if after listening to that stuff youlike it, then just hit one of the links.
I'm you just Google Dad Nation, you'llfind me and I'd love to jump on the call.
And I tell you what, for your listenerswho are listening today, if they want
to have a connect, if they wanna jumpon a call with me in the application
form, which I'll send you the linkjust make a note that you heard of me
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through this podcast, through earlyaccountability, and I'll make sure
that I'm the one who shows up on thecall and not want someone from my team.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I am gonna do it.
I'm gonna say can't befamiliar from the Pill podcast.
I love it.
Yes.
Okay, Mitchell.
So thank you again so much for being here.
Leave the audience please leave us withsome words that you live by, a mantra
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that you may use to guide yourself.
Yeah.
One of the, there's two, for me oneof the ones that recently has really
resonated with me is this idea thattime is the only currency you spend
without knowing the remaining balance.
The second one for me isthat I am the blueprint.
I'm the blueprint for my children, andso obviously I'm biased 'cause I talk
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to a lot of dads, but the reality is,whether you're listening to this and
you're a mom or you're listening to thisand you're a dad, for me if I want my
son to grow up and to be a man, a greatman or a man who is treats his wife then.
I'm gonna show, I have to showhim how to do that in my life.
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Our children will, they won't alwayssay what we, they won't always
do what we say, but you betterbelieve they're gonna do what we
Oh, absolutely.
And for my daughter, if I want herto marry a good man, a great man who
loves her, then I need to model thatfor her so that when she grows up and
sees greatness, she can recognize itbecause she's seen it modeled for her.
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So I must become theman I want my son to be.
I must become the man I wantmy daughter to marry one day.
Otherwise, we know statisticallythey're gonna do whatever we do.
And so if we have a poor marriage, or ifwe're making bad choices in our health,
or if we're making bad choices in ourfamily, we're not showing up, we're not
loving our wives or ourselves or whatever,and they're, we know, statistically
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speaking, they have an 86% chanceof doing the exact same thing as us.
And so how do we correct that?
This is what we, when we talkabout generational curses, right?
This is how, this is not theory.
This is just facts at this point, right?
And so it, the best way to raisegreat children, to become great
adults is to be that version forthem to live that way today, right?
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Because you're not raisingkids, you're raising adults.
They're not, they're only gonna bekids for a very short amount of time.
You're raising adults.
So you need to help them see that,see greatness in themselves so
that they can recognize it, right?
So does that make sense?
Absolutely.
But I think that too I think it can beapplied to a lot of areas, even when
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you say like in life or at work, becausereally the ripples of what we do affects
those around us, whether it's being theleader at job or just actually even.
Parallel with your coworkers,those kind of things ripple out.
Yeah, a hundred percent Kimi.
And I think another thing thatI will talk to my clients about
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is just that idea that you.
Get what you tolerate, right?
And so you tolerate disrespector abuse or, lack of boundaries.
You're giving other peoplepermission to do that as well, right?
And and the flip side of the inverse.
If you begin to lead well and makegreat decisions and prior and, set up
healthy boundaries and, become a personof discipline, you also encourage and
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inspire other people to do the same.
And we can think that, oh, nobody seeswhat I'm doing or I don't have any impact.
Yes, they yes you do.
You have no idea how many peopleyou're impacting with the simple dec
decisions that you think nobody sees.
But the best way to encourage andimpact people around you is to
do that, to make those decisions.
'cause you have influence.
No matter who you are, youhave influence over someone.
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John Maxwell says,leadership is influence.
And so you have leadership somewhere.
It's just a matter of finding out wherethat is and making the right decisions
so that you can model it for those thatyou are leading, whether your children,
they're your children, or your employeesor your colleagues, whatever the case is.
Yes.
Neighbors, what have you,Mitchell, thank you so much.
We wanna thank Mitchell from thatnation again for coming here to be
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a guest on the Early Accountabilitypodcast and to the audience.
Until next time
Okay, Kimi Walker here and welcomeback to the next episode of the
Early Accountability Podcast.
Today here on the show we haveMitchell, who is the host of
the Dad Nation podcast, which isactually more than just a podcast.
It's actually really a movement.
We have over, over 34,000 monthlylisteners on the podcast alone.
So Mitchell, why don't you come and firstjust tell us about what is that nation?
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How did you start this?
What is this?
And tell us just a little bit moreabout you and your background.
Yeah, so well, thank you first ofall for having me on the show, Kimi.
I really appreciate this and I'mlooking forward to having this
conversation with you and your listeners.
But for me what Dad Nation is justsimply, like you said, it's a movement
of men who really want to become better.
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For their families, for themselves,to re you know the slogan we use is to
reclaim their home health and happiness.
And so the three things we talk a lotabout are people who want to have stronger
marriages, who want to be in bettershape, not just for themselves, but to
model this for their children and formen who want to have more self-confidence
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and eliminate that self-sabotage.
A lot of my clients anda lot of my listeners.
Lot of the people inthe community are, yeah.
Which you would call 'em high performersor people who have built businesses,
CEOs, VPs, things like that, who have seenprofessional success but are struggling.
Their life is a bit of a personalmess, if you will, and and they've
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acquired wealth, they've acquiredbusinesses, all that stuff.
But now they're turningaround, they're saying.
I have all this money, but I don'teven know how to talk to my own wife,
or I don't know my kids anymore,or I've gained 50 pounds, or I
got a bad health diagnosis, or I'mstruggling with the imposter syndrome.
What do I do now?
And so the whole mission of the dad nationis to help men show up more powerfully.
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Just as powerfully athome as they do at work.
And so I let, that's a bit ofthe mission and the reason why I
started this was because I grewup in a dysfunctional home myself.
I was raised my home wasmarked by alcohol, crime,
drug abuse, things like that.
I had an alcoholic father.
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And so I struggled a lot in my lifeand and grew up in the midst of
this sort of dysfunctional home.
And, I was the youngest of threeand I had a bit of a savior complex.
I was always trying to keepthings together for the family.
I was the golden child, if you will.
And I thought I had it handled,but then I got married and then
the wounds really of my childhoodbegan to bleed out into my marriage.
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And three years in we foundourselves on the verge of divorce.
I was let go of the seniorleadership position and I was
50 pounds, 60 pounds overweight.
We were over a hundred grand in debt.
And I was medicating with alcohol anddrugs, just trying to deal with my own
frustration with where I was at in life.
And I was about to lose my wife.
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And there was a moment I had at a funeral.
I was singing at this funeral,I'm a musician as well, just for
fun, but it the funeral was ofthis philanthropic wealthy man.
And as the pastor was wrapping up themessage, he asked the congregation, are
you living a life worthy of imitation?
And as I began to strapout my guitar and play.
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The last song, I could barely choke atthe lyrics because I thought to myself in
that moment, man, if I walk out of thischurch and I get hit by a bus, nobody is
gonna say, man, I wanna live like Mitch.
I wanna have the marriage he had,I wanna have the bank account He
had, all those different things.
And so the next day I got towork and I took ownership.
And within a year and a half.
We completely restored our marriage.
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I lost 60 pounds, became lean, confident,paid off the a hundred grand of
debt, got clean, got sober, and beganto just help my friends around me.
'cause obviously they were alllike, what are you doing, man?
What's going on?
How are you doing this?
Which then led me to launch the podcastto share these principles with the world.
And then before I knew it, I had people chchiming in all over North America and then
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asking me, Hey, could you help me too?
And that's what launchedmy coaching practice.
So over the last year and a half, thisis relatively new, but over the last year
and a half I've launched the podcast andlaunched a six figure coaching practice
based off of the principles that I'velearned in applying it to my own life.
And that's how I got here.
Oh wow, that's awesome.
So I love, so you have a lot aboutholistic success and early action.
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It's just intertwined into you.
So here at early accountability, we'rereally about those early stages of a new
endeavor or a lifestyle shift, right?
Or a pivot, whether it'spersonally or professionally.
And you've done both in both sectors.
What would you say is critical?
And as far as like thinking of earlyaccountability when it comes to setting
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the foundation for someone who feelslike they need to go and start to
achieve more holistic balance, likeyou said okay, my finances, my personal
relationships, my this, I need tobecome more balanced holistically,
and a lot of different domains.
What do you say are some steps orsome things that you say or that you
give in coaching as far as Hey, whatare some, what's that early start?
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What's the kind of game plan?
What's the coaching look like that, right?
What are some strategies yougive for starting strong?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a great question andthank you for asking it, Kimi.
I think there's two thingsthat immediately come to mind.
Number one is, and I struggle a littlebit the word with the word of balance,
because every different season.
Is different and requiresdifferent things of you.
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And so I do an exercise with myclients called the Life Report Card.
And we do this every quarter.
And the reason why we do this and I'llcome back to the second point about
beginning with the end of mind, butthe life report card exercise, it's,
because we've been grown up in theeducation system that taught us what
do you, what's the goal in school?
Straight A's, get an A ineverything possible no matter what.
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And we were raised in that kind of system.
And but realistically, if you werea parent, if you have, a job, you
got multiple kids, you want toget in shape, you wanna do all
these different things, you can'talways be an a plus in everything.
And so there's gonna be someseasons where you might have to.
Turn that A into a B,or maybe even a B minus.
When my first son was born,I was like, oh, I can't train
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six times a week anymore.
Okay, so now that a plus is gonna becomemaybe a B minus, and that's okay for
a season until I get a new rhythm.
So understanding andhaving grace for yourself.
And knowing that this is a journeysuccess, these pivots, you have
to have grace with yourself andunderstand that there is no such
thing as a perfect linear line.
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That there's it, there's gonnabe, there's gonna be adversities,
there's gonna be challenges, butover the course of the, the journey,
you're on an upward trajectory.
So helping clients get reallyclear on what's most important
in this season, right?
Maybe we.
We spend a little less time togetherbecause I gotta push in this career
for a moment or maybe I pull backfrom work a little bit because
I need to invest in my marriage.
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Those different things.
And so having clarity about that,understanding the season you're in, and
knowing what's required of you, and beingokay with maybe letting some things just.
Putting some things on the back burner.
You're essentially, if you picturejust the stove top, you're essentially
just moving pots around, right?
Every different season.
And so the second thing when you startthat journey with giving yourself
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grace and understanding that, thatthis journey will come with adversities
and movement, and that's part of it.
The second thing we need to dois to begin with the end in mind.
Okay?
Stephen Covey in his book, theSeven Habits of Highly Effective
People, which are one of the mostfamous books written on leadership
development number or chapter two iscalled Begin With the End in Mind.
Napoleon Hill says, beginwith the end in mind.
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And so we must know where we're going.
We must define and determinewhat success looks like for us.
Because if so for example, Kimi, if I saidto you, I wanna go to the beach, let's
go to the beach, and I just hit beach.
The GPS, that could take me through thewest coast to the east coast, south.
It could take me wherever, right?
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And I don't know if I'm gonnabe happy with where I end up.
So I have to get very clear on what,where I'm going and what I'm doing.
And for example, with a lot of theclients I work with, I actually
walk them through a eulogy exercise.
It was very visceral.
And, I essentially fabricatethat funeral moment I had.
And I say, and I get them towrite their own eulogy from the
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perspective of their spouse or fromthe perspective of the children.
What would you like them to say aboutthe man that you are, or the mother
you are, whoever, when your time isup and you're gonna write that out.
And if you were to die today,what would they say about you?
And that gap between who you aretoday and how you want to be known
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by your children and the people youlove the most, the legacy that you're
leaving or how you want to be known.
That gap is where we need to grow, right?
That gap is where that tension comesin, that sometimes that frustration
where I'm not who I'm called to be,I'm not living up to my full potential.
And so beginning with the end ofmind, getting very clear on exactly
what success looks like for me,and then reverse engineering that.
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Into yearly, monthly, weekly daily actionsteps to see that future come to fruition.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You brought up a good pointjust about, like you said who
are you, who do you show up?
How did these peoplelook at you and view you?
So you have a lot of experiencein leadership, so over 15 years in
leadership, senior leadership at that,what practices or mindsets have you
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found to be very effective when itcomes to I guess your long-term vision
or goals and being able to balance likeyour leadership development but also
your personal growth, especially ifyou have a lot of professional demands.
And I think why I think this isreally important, I really wanted to
talk about it too, especially comingfrom like the dad nation or man.
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There's a lot of times a lot ofexpectations, I think, in society
and personally to be, may really tobe like the leader or to take care
of, or if something happens, youhave to be able to like handle this.
What kind of mindset shifts ormodalities would you suggest in
that realm or what have you done?
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Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm gonna hit you with it.
I'm just writing some thingsdown as I'm thinking about 'em,
'cause I don't wanna lose them.
So for me there's four major qualitiesthat I see the most successful leaders.
There are four qualities that thatthese, that when I embodied them, they're
what really turned my life around.
Okay.
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So number one is community.
Surrounding yourself withlike-minded individuals who
your ceiling is their floor.
That they live where you want to be.
You understand what I mean?
These people will come aroundyou, they'll support you.
They will not only, they'll, not onlywill they show you what's possible
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in your life, but they'll giveyou the exact steps to get there,
and they'll hold you accountablebecause it's gonna be hard, right?
There's gonna be challenges.
Like we said, you're gonna face adversity,so surrounding yourself with men or
women or whatever your situation is.
With people who can hold you to thestandard that you're setting for yourself
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or the success that you say that you want.
That's why I created theDad Nation Coalition.
It's literally a community of menwho are like-minded, who want to
see success in their home, theirhealth and their happiness, right?
We hold each other accountable.
So that's number one.
Community.
Number two, they're all Cs.
I love alliteration.
The second one is clarity.
Like I alluded to this before.
Getting crystal clear on whereyou want to go so that when you
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get there, you know you're there.
Most people don't evenknow what they want.
Some of my clients are like seven,seven figure men who are running like
multiple seven figure businesses,and I say, what do you want?
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm like, what do you mean you don't know?
How do you get here and notknow what you, but they have no
clarity and they're burned out.
They're stressed out.
So was that.
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And everybody thinks it's so great.
Totally.
So it was community clarity.
Okay.
Confidence.
And consistency.
These are the last twoand they're related.
Okay, so consistency is grit.
It's showing up day after day, right?
Steve Jobs said at one point, hesaid, business at the end of the
day is just a game of attrition.
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The last person left standing wins, right?
And so can you continue?
Can you be consistentwith following through?
That's one of the most I thinkunderrated skills in the world, being
consistent and hammering out, pursuingthis vision, whatever the case is.
And the reason why that's connectedto the last one, which is confidence.
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Is because we break promisesto ourselves all the time.
And I talk a lot about confidencebecause at the end of the day,
confidence, a lack of self-confidencecomes from when you break promises
when you're inconsistent with yourself.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
'cause Kimi, if I say to myself,I'm gonna wake up six o'clock in the
morning and I'm gonna go to the gym,and then the day one, I don't do it.
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Day two, I don't do it.
What happens?
Even though no one else knows in mylife that I broke this promise inside,
I know my subconscious mind knows,and it begins to say things like,
why would anyone ever trust your wordif you can't even trust yourself?
And so you begin to your rapportwith yourself begins to erode and
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you begin to lose self confidence.
Like you would lose confidencein any relationship where
somebody didn't show up.
And so the importance of consistencyis because you need to make promises
to yourself and keep them, andthat's the way you gain, you regain.
Self-confidence, you gainself-report, you begin to stack wins.
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And that makes it easier than to be moreconsistent and to be more confident.
And there's a concept called theconfidence competence loop, which
is, and you can Google this, it'sfascinating, but that's how it works is
you gain competency because you've beenconfident in taking that first step.
And then when you have the confidence totake that first step you do the thing, you
become more competent, which then makesyou more confident to be more competent.
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And before you know it you gain thatself-confidence back for, so those four
things for me are some of the biggestmarkers of success as people grow.
It's funny you went into a question.
I really wanted to.
To ask you about was consistency,so having a personal and
professional consistency.
So a lot of high performers may nothave the same level of discipline in
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different sectors of their life, solet's say personally or professionally.
What kind of, what methodsdo you teach your client?
Like you said, I know you said,okay, when you show up for yourself.
You become more confident in yourself.
What do you teach as far asfostering consistency in both,
let's say your career and yourlike family or personal wellbeing?
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So not having, trying to avoid trade-offsor this black and white oh, I'm doing
really great at home right now, butI'm really feeling everybody at my
job, or I'm going up the ladder here,but I haven't been to any of my kids'
baseball games or taking time to do this.
And that, so how, what would you,what do you say, what do you give
as far as coaching tips for that?
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Yeah that's a fantastic question.
So there's a couple thingsthat come to my mind.
And it's so funny.
I was having this conversation with aclient this morning and, and he, what
we need to do is get clear on our why.
Okay?
Why are you doing what you're doing?
Because here's the thing, themoment you say yes to something
or someone else is getting a no.
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You understand what I mean?
And so you have to understandwhat gets my automatic yes.
Because I know that whatever, get,whatever I choose to give that yes
to something else and somewherein my life is gonna get a no.
When I say yes to this businessopportunity, prob that's gonna require
me to take some evening meetings,that's a no to my wife and kids.
When I say I'm gonna sleep inand skip the gym, then that's
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a no to my health and wellness.
So understanding that conceptof there is no, you don't have,
you can't generate more yeses.
You can't take, makemore time than 24 hours.
And so by virtue of saying yes tosomething, something else is getting a no.
And so understanding what are yougiving your yes to, because at the
end of the day, time is the onlycurrency that we spend without
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knowing the remaining balance,
That's true.
We spend this currency all the time.
We don't know what the balance,Kimi, I could get off this call
and get hit by a bus tomorrow andI just gave you one of the last 60
minute chunks of my life, right?
And so we have to get crystal clear onwhy we're doing what we're doing, right?
Because if not, we start doingeverything everywhere, and we
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get stressed out and we can't.
We talk about the juggling.
We're overwhelmed.
And so I think a lot of people biteoff more than they can chew, right?
And so with my clients, it's thatquestion of what matters the most to you?
What gets your automatic Yes.
I had a client who was talking to me theother day about, he was in his office
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working at six thirty at night and he wasworking on a proposal and he said, yeah,
my son kept coming in and interrupting me.
My son kept coming in and he wasjust an inconvenience, 'cause he
wanted to throw the ball around andhe was distracting me from my work
and I said, Hey man let's maybe just.
Pause this for a momentand then think about this.
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What if your son was the work?
What if your son is the realmission and your, what you're,
whatever you're working on rightnow is actually the inconvenience.
Whatever you're working on rightnow actually is not the work
and what you really need to bedoing is paying attention to the
family you're trying to foster.
And I didn't say hey.
This is your situation, but whatif it was, how do you see your
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children as an inconvenience or doyou see them as the mission, right?
Or is your job the mission?
And I don't, I'm not gonna judge youif your career is that, and you don't
care about what, not my place to judge,but it seems as though you don't know.
Because you talk to me about youwanna be a better father and you
wanna be a better husband, but yetyou keep prioritizing work over them.
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And so what happens is your relationshipswith your kids deteriorate and your
wife deteriorates, which makes you moreanxious and more frustrated, but yet
you keep choosing everything over them.
And so what's the key to contentment?
Was understanding what gets your yesand being unapologetically about that.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna work from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PMI'm gonna spend this time with my family.
I'm gonna put my kids down andthen I'm gonna go to work if I
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You understand what I mean?
Yeah.
Creating like boundaries.
Exactly, that's exactly what it is.
Creating boundaries and beingunapologetically about them and
communicating those boundariesto those that you love.
And, maybe if you're listening and youwork for a corporation, understanding
how to comm, how to set up those healthyboundaries with your bosses, your
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colleagues, Hey guys, I'm not gonna take.
Calls after 7:00 PM or I'mnot going to, whatever.
And I work with CEOs and they're doingit all the time, and I say, listen,
man, by the very nature of sendingthat text or sending that email at nine
o'clock at night, you're then givingyour employees permission to do the same
and to email you back, which then makesit even harder for you not to respond.
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You're modeling, you're always modeling.
So anyways, that's a that'sone thing we talk about.
It is great too.
Now you can schedule the emailseven if you're doing scheduled
to send at a different time.
So it just doesn't feel like you'reconstantly, I know that it's a big one.
Constantly feel like you're workingaround the clock, even if you times are.
And I think, like you said, I thinkthat helps even when you say that
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too, that can create, honestly,that may even create relief for
people who you're working with too.
Hey, we're we have a culture of.
Boundaries, and people can show up, Ithink better too when they're per having,
better success in their own personal livestoo, as far as their work performance.
You think about it like this, cansay we're in a situation where I am.
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I am you and I are working together.
I say Kimi especially if I'm theboss, I say, I'm really trying my
best not to answer work emails after6:00 PM 'cause my son has a soccer
game and I really wanna show up.
I wanna be a better ho husband.
Or we gotta, I got a date nightwith my wife tonight I'm just not,
I'm not gonna be answering emails.
Who in the right mind wouldsay, ah, that's ridiculous.
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You should be answering your emails.
Or you should, I should beNo, no one's gonna think that.
They're gonna be like, that'sactually, that's amazing.
You know what?
And they're gonna do a self-audit, they'regonna be like, maybe I should do that too,
because it's contagious and it spreads.
And so leaders often don't have thoseconversations because they don't
wanna appear as weak or not committedwhen in fact if they did have those
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conversation and have the courage tosay it, they'd be respected even more.
And spread this contagion in apositive note of creating a culture
of an organization that shows up whereit matters most, which is at home.
Okay, perfect.
That's perfect.
That's great.
So I do wanna talk a littlebit more about just legacies.
You talk a lot and teach a lot aboutencouraging people, especially dads,
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to build lessing legacies that.
By thriving to their best oftheir ability that they wanna
be in, in many areas of life.
So you have been leveraging yourinfluence for impact, right?
So you have the Dad Nation podcastwhich has a huge humongous reach.
How do you.
Ensure your visibility, which is big.
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We talk about that a lot here on the show.
And how do you effectively leverage youronline, like influence your community,
your equipment to lead their families?
What have you put in place foryourself as far as like systems
so that you can maintain like theconsistency and impact of your message?
Because people don't necessarilyalways understand how.
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Much goes on the backside as far as likecontent or creating consistency, or you
have a community, like keeping peopleengaged is very hard in this day and age.
Very hard to keep like engagementfor stuff that's not the
latest bad or, things of that.
So how do you do and what kind of systemshave you put in yourself for your pla,
excuse me, what kind of systems have youput in place for yourself regarding that?
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Yeah, for me it's creating liketime blocking, for creating
time to create content.
One of the things that I spent the mosttime on is getting clarity in my message.
I. I think a lot of people, when theystart out in business, they want to they
want to be all things to all people, andthey want to offer, help for everyone.
And I'm like that's great, but if you'retrying to appeal to everybody, you're
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actually appealing to no one, right?
Because no one feels likeyou're speaking to them.
And so for me, the biggest thingthat I worked on in the beginning
was getting, first of all, gettingincredibly crystal clear about my
vision that I'm serving one person.
I'm serving the career driven manwho wants to reclaim their home,
their health and their happiness.
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That's who I serve, right?
And so when I write, when I writemy content, when I post my Instagram
posts, when I make, blog posts orcoaching videos or whatever, it's all
based around that one man, and I speakto that man, and when I coach the
same man over and over again because.
That's what allows me to become anexpert and I can get incredibly surgical
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because it's always the same problems,versus saying I help men be better.
What does that mean?
Be better basketball players.
Very true.
Very true.
Better, I don't know.
Like.
Better in the kitchen.
It could be literally anything.
And so being very clear on your vision andwho you're trying to serve is number one.
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So the vision and then the vehicle,like how are you serving them?
Are you serving them through, sofor another thing that I say and
because a lot of times peopleask me, how do you help people?
I say, I help people through content,through coaching and through courses.
Those three Cs.
So content is the donation podcast, right?
Instagram, things like that.
The courses is called the High PerformanceHusband, which is all of my content that I
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teach in a digital course format, and thencoaching, which is what I do with the men.
And so it's very simple.
If you wanna know how to gethelp, this is how I do it.
These are the three things,this is the vision that I do.
And then, so outside of that, Idon't really pay a lot of the time.
I don't.
I outsource a lot of the things that, thatanyone can do, like responding to emails,
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podcast bookings, things like that.
Because any, I can get anyone to do that.
That doesn't require myunique ability, what my unique
ability needs to be used in.
Is creating content and helpingmen with the specific cha
challenges that they face.
And only I can do that.
No one else can do that.
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And it's, it kinda goes back to theEisenhower Matrix, which I don't know
if you've have heard of, but essentiallythe Eisenhower Matrix is a way of
categorizing what's most important.
And one of them, and you can Google thisat another time, your listeners can, but
the things that are urgent and important.
Are the things that needyour time and attention.
You need to execute on those things,but there are a lot of things that
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are important, but not urgent.
Very good.
Yeah.
Okay, this is important.
Now I need to decide about that.
I don't necessarily need to do it.
That might be a date night thatneeds to happen sometime this week.
Is that urgent?
No.
Or that might be a proposal thatneeds to be drafted within a month.
Okay.
But it's not urgent.
It's important.
Now, I still might have todo it, but it's not pressing.
Right.
And then there are things that arenot important and also not urgent.
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Those are things that Ican just delegate, right?
But the urgent and the important thingsare the things that only I can do.
And so for your listeners, if youjust Google the Eisenhower Matrix,
you can see lots of templates.
I essentially just take my dailytasks and plot them out on the
matrix, and I say, out of these fourquadrants, 'cause that's what it is.
What do I have to delegate?
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What do I have to delete?
What I have to decide on.
And the last thing is,what do I have to do?
And really the only thing thatI personally am doing is the
urgent and important things.
'cause those are the onlythings that only I can do.
And so for me, that's creating content.
For me, that's showing up on,coaching calls on podcasts.
Like obviously nobody cancome in and be me on a show.
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But can someone sendan email on my behalf?
Absolutely.
Can someone manage my calendar?
Absolutely.
Can they do my graphic designor edit my podcast episodes?
Yes.
So I don't need to do that and Ican't afford to do that because I
have to show up in other powerfulways for my son, for my wife.
And this goes back to balance, right?
Understanding that time is themost precious currency we have.
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And because we don't know how muchwe have left, we need to be very
intentional about how we spend it.
So if I only have 60 minutes,then I need to understand the
best way to use that 60 minutes.
So I'm gonna pay other people to dothe other things, and I'm gonna get
really focused on what only I can do.
Does that make sense?
Only I can love my wife only Ican be my A father to my son.
Okay?
So I need to be doing that as well, right?
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Okay, Mitchell, so tell us where can theaudience find out more All Dead Nation
and where can they listen to the podcast?
Just where can the audience go tokeep in contact with you and stay
in alignment with your mission?
Yeah.
Thanks for asking and honestly, thankyou for just allowing me to share Kimi
I think that the simplest thing is ifthis conversation resonated with you and
you're listening I got a free gift forall of your listeners if they, and it's
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just called the connection code, whichis 50 questions to spark the fun and get
the fire back in your marriage, right?
So if conversation is grown dull,you feel a little bit more like
roommates rather than soulmates.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes those things happen,and this is just 50 of my favorite
questions, which is powerful.
You can use that on date nights.
You can use it whenever youwant to reconnect as a couple.
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So you can download that andI'll give you the link to, you
can download in the show notes.
But but then secondly, yeah,listen to the Dad Nation podcast.
If you're listening on YouTube,subscribe to the channel.
We have tons and tons ofhigh level guest experts.
We teach on.
Fatherhood, we talk about fitness, wetalk about finances, we talk about,
you name it tons and tons of stuff.
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And yeah, you can checkout the Dad Nation podcast.
And if after listening to that stuff youlike it, then just hit one of the links.
I'm you just Google Dad Nation, you'llfind me and I'd love to jump on the call.
And I tell you what, for your listenerswho are listening today, if they want
to have a connect, if they wanna jumpon a call with me in the application
form, which I'll send you the linkjust make a note that you heard of me
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through this podcast, through earlyaccountability, and I'll make sure
that I'm the one who shows up on thecall and not want someone from my team.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I am gonna do it.
I'm gonna say can't befamiliar from the Pill podcast.
I love it.
Yes.
Okay, Mitchell.
So thank you again so much for being here.
Leave the audience please leave us withsome words that you live by, a mantra
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that you may use to guide yourself.
Yeah.
One of the, there's two, for me oneof the ones that recently has really
resonated with me is this idea thattime is the only currency you spend
without knowing the remaining balance.
The second one for me isthat I am the blueprint.
I'm the blueprint for my children, andso obviously I'm biased 'cause I talk
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to a lot of dads, but the reality is,whether you're listening to this and
you're a mom or you're listening to thisand you're a dad, for me if I want my
son to grow up and to be a man, a greatman or a man who is treats his wife then.
I'm gonna show, I have to showhim how to do that in my life.
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Our children will, they won't alwayssay what we, they won't always
do what we say, but you betterbelieve they're gonna do what we
Oh, absolutely.
And for my daughter, if I want herto marry a good man, a great man who
loves her, then I need to model thatfor her so that when she grows up and
sees greatness, she can recognize itbecause she's seen it modeled for her.
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So I must become theman I want my son to be.
I must become the man I wantmy daughter to marry one day.
Otherwise, we know statisticallythey're gonna do whatever we do.
And so if we have a poor marriage, or ifwe're making bad choices in our health,
or if we're making bad choices in ourfamily, we're not showing up, we're not
loving our wives or ourselves or whatever,and they're, we know, statistically
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speaking, they have an 86% chanceof doing the exact same thing as us.
And so how do we correct that?
This is what we, when we talkabout generational curses, right?
This is how, this is not theory.
This is just facts at this point, right?
And so it, the best way to raisegreat children, to become great
adults is to be that version forthem to live that way today, right?
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Because you're not raisingkids, you're raising adults.
They're not, they're only gonna bekids for a very short amount of time.
You're raising adults.
So you need to help them see that,see greatness in themselves so
that they can recognize it, right?
So does that make sense?
Absolutely.
But I think that too I think it can beapplied to a lot of areas, even when
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you say like in life or at work, becausereally the ripples of what we do affects
those around us, whether it's being theleader at job or just actually even.
Parallel with your coworkers,those kind of things ripple out.
Yeah, a hundred percent Kimi.
And I think another thing thatI will talk to my clients about
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is just that idea that you.
Get what you tolerate, right?
And so you tolerate disrespector abuse or, lack of boundaries.
You're giving other peoplepermission to do that as well, right?
And and the flip side of the inverse.
If you begin to lead well and makegreat decisions and prior and, set up
healthy boundaries and, become a personof discipline, you also encourage and
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inspire other people to do the same.
And we can think that, oh, nobody seeswhat I'm doing or I don't have any impact.
Yes, they yes you do.
You have no idea how many peopleyou're impacting with the simple dec
decisions that you think nobody sees.
But the best way to encourage andimpact people around you is to
do that, to make those decisions.
'cause you have influence.
No matter who you are, youhave influence over someone.
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John Maxwell says,leadership is influence.
And so you have leadership somewhere.
It's just a matter of finding out wherethat is and making the right decisions
so that you can model it for those thatyou are leading, whether your children,
they're your children, or your employeesor your colleagues, whatever the case is.
Yes.
Neighbors, what have you,Mitchell, thank you so much.
We wanna thank Mitchell from thatnation again for coming here to be
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a guest on the Early Accountabilitypodcast and to the audience.
Until next time
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