November 1, 2022 • 35 mins
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Welcome, Registered Dietician Lucy Hutchings.
Our conversation today focuses on optimizing nutrition and the importance of reducing stress, environmental toxins, and harmful chemicals.
We also cover some great topics on body shaming, helping our taste buds adapt to change and progress over perfection.
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Jaime (00:37):
Well happy Tuesday everyone.
I am so excited today to bringon Lucy Hutchings.
Lucy, why don't you go ahead andtell us a little bit about
yourself?
Lucy (00:49):
Hello.
Thank you so much for having me.
So yeah, I've been a registereddietician for over 14 years and
I spent a lot of my careerworking in hospital as an
inpatient clinical dietician.
And so I really got a lot of, I,I really got frustrated a lot of
the time because a lot of thepeople that I was seeing in the
(01:12):
hospital were people that couldhave prevented a lot of the
illnesses that they were dealingwith because of just a, a poor
information that they had beengiven over the years.
And so I really wanted to workmore with people that were,
before they got into thehospital side of things.
(01:33):
And so that's really what got meto start my own private practice
Wellness from Within Nutrition,where then I can work with
people before it becomessomething that needs to be
hospitalized.
I know that there's a lot ofpeople out there that are
interested in preventablepreventative medicine.
And so that's where really whereI enjoy working now at this
(01:55):
point is working with people onthe preventative side of
things..
Jaime (01:59):
I absolutely love that and that, I think that's one of
the reasons we click so well isbecause I have that mindset of
being proactive too.
What I love to do in my side iseducating about the harmful
ingredients in a lot of ourproducts and catch it, you like,
let people know about it beforeit becomes a problem because
it's not so easy to reversethose issues, whether it's, you
(02:22):
know, long-term debilitateddiseases by overexposure of
environmental toxins or on yourcase, you know, if you continue
to expose yourself to thingsthat are unhealthy and they
start creating adult onsetdiabetes, I'm sure that's one of
the things that you've seen alot of struggles with.
So like being proactive inpreventative side, investing in
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the time and energy into yourhealth now, before it becomes a
problem.
Lucy (02:48):
Yes, exactly.
And there are so many thingsthat the environmental toxins do
to our bodies that is a realproblem and then does develop
into these chronic diseases andother problems.
And so, you know, even though Italk a lot about nutrition and
food, obviously when I'm workingwith people, but there's more
(03:11):
than just the nutrition and foodaspect to health.
And that's why, you know, comingon and talking about this with
you in particular is soimportant to me because it's,
it's more than just the food,it's also our environment.
It's also the products, it's thetoxins, it's also our stress,
it's also our sleep.
It's our movement.
(03:31):
There's so many components togood health.
It's not just one thing.
And that's why I think it'sreally important to talk about
all the different aspects.
Jaime (03:40):
I agree.
And it, it's, it's funny though,cuz it can be so overwhelming.
I would love to know.
Like everything about all ofthose topics and be able to help
others.
But there's so much to dive intowith every single little thing,
so many different nuances.
So I love having someone likeyou, as a resource for myself
because I, I'm all aboutnutrition.
(04:00):
That's where it started for me,but I never really went the
extra mile for the education andputting all of those components
together on, the most importantthings to optimize our health.
We'll get into a little bit withgut biome and because you do a
lot with gut health, but I, soI, I agree 100% that it is all
related.
(04:21):
And when you talk about optimalhealth and I had seen your post
just the other day where it wasour, our time is, is a great
asset, but so is our health.
And so what good is our time ifour health is not optimized?.
And, and what good is our healthif our time is not optimized?
So, you know, those two goentangled together.
But when you want to optimizeyour health, it is, it's your
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environmental toxins.
It's the products you use, it'sthe food you eat, it's your
exercise, it's your sleep.
It's almost like I was thinkingof like this little you think of
the Holy trinity, okay?
Lucy (04:52):
Mm-hmm.
You have this trinity of healthand it's the products that we
use and the toxins we're exposedto.
It's the food that we eat, butit's also our mental state.
Yes.
Jaime (05:04):
And if in our mental state is affected by our sleep,
by our exercise, by the peoplewe allow into our lives, our
relationships.
So that's all in the mental, andthis is the food we put in our
body, and this is the air webreathe and the the products
that we put on our body.
And you need all three of those.
Angles in the triangle,
Lucy (05:25):
Yes.
Jaime (05:25):
For optimal health.
And it's, it's really difficultfor one person to know all of
it, you know, to have just thatone go-to.
Yes.
So so I love it when you and Ican collaborate with something
like this to help othersunderstand both sides of this
part of the triangle.
And I'm looking forward tomeeting someone else on the top
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there for the mental health thatcan work with us, and we can
come back on together with themand talk about how it all
relates.
So when we talk about optimizingour health and the food that we
eat, you educate people on whatis healthy for them and that
healthy balance.
And it's, it's not about diet,it's about lifestyle.
Lucy (06:02):
Yes.
Jaime (06:03):
Correct?
Lucy (06:03):
Exactly.
For sure.
Yeah, and, and so what I do is Iactually focus more on just a
healthy whole foods way ofeating.
I call it an anti-inflammatorydiet, but it's what that really
just means is eating the bestfoods as close to nature as
possible.
(06:24):
But I also take a veryrealistic, sustainable approach
because I am a busy mom and Iknow you are too, and I'm sure a
lot of your audience is, and alot of my audience is as well.
We are busy moms.
I have three kids that are, are,you know, my oldest is 10, and
so I can't always spend all mytime in the kitchen making my
(06:48):
own food and making my ownproducts, and, and doing all the
things, you know, we still haveour busy lives to deal with.
And I want healthy living to beas easy and sustainable and
realistic as possible.
Jaime (07:06):
Well, and you have a gift like that.
You make it very accessible.
You, your approach to helpingothers.
It makes it simple and easy, andit's not about being legalistic,
Lucy (07:19):
Right.
Jaime (07:19):
With the changes that need to be made.
And it's, you're also reallygood with pointing out and
praising people for the goodthat they're already doing.
Lucy (07:28):
Yes.
Jaime (07:28):
Because sometimes we think about all that we're not
doing, and then we shameourselves and we put ourselves
down, and then we're overwhelmedand we feel like it's not good
enough.
What, what's the point?
What's the point in making thechanges?
But when you highlight all thesuccesses that people are
already doing in their life,it's kind of like when I say,
Oh, you're already living moresustainably than you believe.
You're already being kinder tothe earth, or you're already
(07:51):
using, Look at these productsthat you're already safer with.
Like kudos, Right?
Lucy (07:56):
Yeah.
I mean, just the fact thatpeople are listening to this
podcast right now is already astep in the right direction.
Jaime (08:03):
Absolutely.
Good point on that.
So I also wanted to talk about,so once, once you educate people
on the more holistic way ofeating with back to nature food
with that realistic mindset, cuzyes I am, we I love that we've
figured out our kids are almostthe same age.
I have three as well and they'relike maybe six months apart from
(08:25):
each other.
So, what is your take on fastfood?
How does that affect yourfamily?
Lucy (08:31):
Yeah, that's a great question.
So, because I talk a lot aboutinflammation and healthy gut,
which you know, is affected bythe foods we, in our stress and
our environmental toxins and allthe things.
Well, since inflammation doeswreak havoc on our bodies, and
it's something that wedefinitely want to avoid, one of
the things that can causeinflammation is processed foods
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and sugar and foods that arecovered with pesticides and, and
all the things, you know,non-organic foods and so fast
food really does fit into thatprocessed foods toxins and
sugar.
And that type of eating is goingto cause this damage to your
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gut.
It's going to cause an imbalancein your gut flora.
All the good, healthy bacteriathat you want in there gets
damaged when we eat theseprocessed foods in the sugar.
And so we, we don't wanna dothat a lot.
Now that being said, I also,again, go back to the realistic
part of things and I think thatthere are times and places when
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maybe fast food is justsomething that just has to be
done on a rare occasion becausestress also reeks havoc on our
body, And so if taking fast foodout of your diet is going to
cause total stress and anxietyin your life, then maybe that's
not the first place to start.
(10:00):
And maybe that's something thatyou'll tackle in a very small
step type of process.
Jaime (10:08):
Yeah.
Lucy (10:08):
So that's my take on it.
Jaime (10:09):
What about you?
Well, maybe if it's, So I, Ihave a, I have a similar take,
but there's, I guess I, Isegment a little bit different
with the different restaurantsthat, that I go to now.
So maybe when, just for anexample, if fast food is
something that's already part oftheir everyday life, and you
don't wanna just cut that outright away, start thinking about
(10:31):
what's on the menu.
What are some of the healthierchoices you can make by what
those restaurants do offer?
Yes.
So for my, my personal thing, Iquit fast food in my twenties.
If it had a drive through, Iwouldn't go to it.
Now, fast forward to when I havekids and I was a little too
legalistic to where I didn't, Iwouldn't even go anywhere.
(10:51):
I would not let them eat any ofit.
And then we did a road trip, Wedid like a 10 hour road trip,
and my girlfriend was like,Chick-fil-A is fine.
You can do Chick-fil-A.
It's, there's, there's worsethings out there.
But if, if you're gonna do fastfood with your kids, let it be
Chick-fil-A because they do havea higher sustainability and
ethical practice with the foodthat they serve.
(11:14):
They try to use cleaneringredients.
So is it, is it deep fried?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's still, That's why it's sogood.
Do they put sugar and salt inabsolutely everything?
Yes, they do.
And that's why it tastes sogood.
But doing it on a regular basis,no.
So when they.
I think when my youngest wastwo, maybe one.
Anyway, my kids had their firstfast food, so, and now maybe
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once a month we'll doChick-fil-A.
They would do it every week if Ilet'em.
And they would want a milkshakeevery single time.
But, cause they love all thatgoodness.
But no, it's, it's kind of aspecial treat.
I very rarely like to use it orspecial treat or last minute, no
other options.
Yes, in a hurry, late forbaseball.
Didn't have time to pack somefood to take with us.
(11:59):
And don't want to eat all thejunk food at the concession
stands at the baseball game.
Lucy (12:03):
Right, exactly.
It's so important to think aboutsaving your sanity and it's also
important to think about whatchoice could you make that
that's worse.
Like maybe the concession standat the, at the game.
Jaime (12:15):
Yes.
Lucy (12:15):
Would've been a worst choice.
And so of course we can look atthe menu at the fast food
restaurants and we can make thebest choices.
You know, if there's a way toget the salad or the veggies in
or leave off the bun, then thoseare are some small steps that
you could take to make it alittle bit better.
And of course it is just a, alast minute type of choice.
(12:37):
You know, it's not somethingthat we really wanna plan on.
But again, saving your sanity isone of, is one of those things
that I think is very important.
Jaime (12:46):
Yeah.
Well, and another tip is it'ssuper small, but to me it makes
a big difference cuz we, we, ifwe fill up on fruits and
vegetables before we eat, The,the heavier things that we love
so much, then we don't need asmuch because we or we start
listening to our bodies and wefeel full and satisfied because
the things we need are in thosefruits and vegetables.
(13:07):
But you could, you could alwaysask to like, leave off the
cheese and double up the lettuceand tomato.
So you're getting a little bitmore of the good stuff and the
flavor is still there withoutthe cheese.
Lucy (13:17):
Yes.
Jaime (13:18):
I've learned to have sandwiches without cheese now,
but it was a process.
It was not, not something thatI, I don't, I, it's not
something that was overnight,you know, it was a mindset that
I had to slowly change.
And one time I tried it without,and it was not so bad.
And then when I do have thecheese on the sandwiches now,
It's rare.
It's very rare, right?
(13:39):
Yes.
Step by step.
Lucy (13:40):
And I do have a story to share with you since you brought
up going on a trip.
I actually went on a 14 day roadtrip with my kids.
And now this isn't, I wouldn'trecommend this for everyone, but
I actually got through theentire trip with no fast food
until the very last day westopped at five guys.
(14:03):
And so it can be done.
Jaime (14:05):
Mm-hmm.
Lucy (14:06):
But I already had a lot of experience with planning and I'd
already had a lot of experiencewith figuring out how to make
things work without having tostop and, and compromise the
food quality.
So, you know, for me, stoppingat fast food would've been an
absolute last resort.
(14:26):
I had a lot of plans in placeahead of time and I was in at a
point in my life where I could.
Take the time to make thoseplans.
So again, it's not foreverybody, but it can be done.
Yeah.
14 days road trip, no fast foodat all the whole time.
Jaime (14:42):
That is, that is absolutely amazing.
So five guys, my husband, tmi,but when he gets a, a
colonoscopy, so he's not a fastfood guy anymore.
He used to be, when we met andmy very first podcast, I shared
the story where when I met him,I'd gone seven years without
fast food and he was flooredbecause it was a way of life for
him.
He was a single bachelor and hehad no idea how you lived
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without going through thedrive-through.
I mean, he would eat hot dogs atthe gas station for breakfast
sometimes, you know, but so he'scome a long way.
I'm so proud of him and thechanges that he's made is
because he wanted to, notbecause I asked him to.
So it's, it's very wonderful tosee those, those health changes
that he's made for his ownchoices.
So he doesn't do fast food on aregular basis because he now
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feels the difference of his bodyof what After he eats fast food
versus a meal that I cook.
Big difference.
And he avoids it at all costsunless it's after his
colonoscopy.
Because once he gets hiscolonoscopy and he hasn't eaten
for 24 hours, he wants thebiggest burger five guys can
give.
And he wants the big bag offries all to himself.
(15:46):
And I think even one year I gothim a milkshake just to like
push him all the way to thelimit, you know?
So we literally leave thefacility from the colonoscopy
and we go to five guys on theway home.
Lucy (15:59):
Wow.
Jaime (16:00):
And he gorges.
And then he goes to sleep forlike five hours.
Lucy (16:05):
You know, there's, there's something to be said though for
the changes that he's made andthe awareness that he now has.
That's so important because he'snever gonna forget that that's
something that he can't unlearn,that he feels differently when
he eats fast food compared towhen he eats your homemade
cooking.
(16:26):
And sometimes we don't recognizethat feeling until we take some
time to really hone in on it andfocus on it.
And then we realize, you know, Idon't actually feel that great
when I eat fast food.
And it, it doesn't make mehappy.
It doesn't bring me good energyand good health.
And so those are the types ofthings that when we recognize
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it, it makes it easier to makethe choice to not have it so
much.
I just thought that was a reallygreat point.
Jaime (16:55):
Yeah, no, I'm glad.
I'm glad you brought it that,because I mean, I see it that
way, but you're very good atarticulating it that way to help
others like hone in on, on thegood takeaways.
And that brought me to a quicklittle story I'll share, and
then I wanna move on to anotherimportant question about our,
our health and how the toxinscan affect, even if we're doing
the right thing with what weeat.
(17:16):
So my nine year old has recentlybecome a little, a little more
obsessed with her nutrition thanI would like.
Mm-hmm.
she has, I think I've been alittle lax with some of the
things she's watched on YouTubeand she's a little concerned
about her weight.
She has my body type, so it'seasy for her to gain weight and
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hard for her to lose it.
She doesn't have a very fastmetabolism.
She's not naturally an athleteor fit.
All that said, she, she'samazing.
She is everybody's favorite.
She has been on my podcast.
You're gonna hear her, andyou're gonna say, that girl
needs her own.
So her personality like justreally shines through.
(17:59):
And she's still beautiful.
She's absolutely beautiful.
And she actually put on a littleeye mask this morning because
she was like, I have wrinklesmom.
So she's getting, I know she'sgetting into the vanity side.
I'm like, You're too young to beworrying about these things.
Okay.
So she says, I need to eat lesssugar.
How can I be healthier?
I want to eat more salads.
How can I like vegetables?
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And I said, Well, you, you,sometimes you have to fake it
till you make it.
And you just eat what you knowis good for you and you
eventually will get a taste forit.
And it doesn't mean you have tostop eating the things that you
enjoy, but just try to eat moreof the healthier things and then
your body's not gonna need asmuch as the unhealthy stuff.
So she's also very, veryobsessed with Starbucks.
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Now, that is also a, a raretreat that I will give myself
much less to my children.
She's had it once before whereshe had a decaf but it was one
of those sugary drinks that shereally wanted.
So she saw a commercial foranother sugary Starbucks drink
that was seasonal.
And I said, I'll make a dealwith you.
If you can go six days withoutdessert, without a sweet treat,
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then I will take you and I willbuy it for you.
Lucy (19:08):
Wow.
Jaime (19:09):
And she really, really wanted it.
And I was like, She's not gonnado that.
You know, cuz this is the kidwho will like, she'll sneak an
extra cookie and, and granted wetry to make our own cookies, but
she'll, they'll be gone before Iknow it.
So anyway, she.
Did the, she did a five day fastwithout sweetss, without sugars.
She was eating no more, no morelike the buns at school for
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breakfast.
She got off the chocolate milk.
She didn't have juice.
Like she literally did all this,right?
And then they love Hawaiian fortheir lunches at school.
And yes, I know there's betterbread out there.
I used to make all my own bread.
Again, sanity, right?
Like, so you have to make yourcompromises.
(19:52):
At least we eat our food at homeor we eat at home, or we make
our lunches on, on the regular.
So it's not like they're gettinga bunch of process stuff at the
school.
I know the process stuff thatI'm buying.
So she was snacking on aHawaiian rule without making a
sandwich, just like, I thinkmaybe put a piece of bread in
her mouth while she was making asandwich for school one morning
(20:13):
and she goes, Mom, this Hawaiianroll is really sweet.
Lucy (20:18):
Wow.
Jaime (20:18):
Yes.
Like it was, And that was daythree.
It took three days of minimizingher sugar intake to start to
taste the sugar and the foodthat she'd never tasted before
because she was so used tonumbing her taste buds with all
of that.
Yes.
And that is just so amazing howour bodies are designed.
And you're right, if you go alittle while without the yucky
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stuff, you'll start to see andtaste and feel a difference.
Lucy (20:50):
Exactly.
It's that awareness.
That was such an amazing story.
And how old is your daughter?
Nine.
Nine years old, and she was ableto learn so much from this
experiment.
She was able to learn the, firstof all, where the sugar is in
her life, because most peopledon't even realize how much
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sugar they're getting throughoutthe day.
And then the next thing she wasable to learn was that her taste
buds could change and that shecould actually, you know,
appreciate the healthier foodsmore.
Because once your taste budschange like that, then things
like fruits and vegetables aregoing to taste even more
magnificent.
Because
Jaime (21:31):
Richer.
Yeah, richer.
And the flavors.
And it's almost, you can't getenough of it because your body's
craving the, the real naturalsugars as opposed to the
processed sugars.
Lucy (21:41):
Yes.
And she was able to see what shecould do, that she could make a
change in her diet and actuallyfulfill that for several days in
a row.
So did she ever get the, thecoffee drink?
Jaime (21:54):
I ended up giving it to her on the fifth day and I was
actually surprised that thedrink that she wanted didn't
have that much sugar in it,after all.
I didn't do the research before,but I didn't bring that to her
attention when we were atStarbucks.
I'm like, She picked a drink,that's not that bad, you know?
Yeah.
Cause they can get, you look atthe calorie count, the sugar
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count, a lot of the Starbucksdrinks.
Yes.
And and I like when I do gothere, I, I don't get the
artificial sweeteners oranything like the I just get the
straight up whole milk and, andcoffee espresso.
But, so when, when I saw herselection, I kind of felt guilty
putting her up to thatchallenge.
But like you said, like that wasa beautiful life lesson.
It was an opportunity for her tosee what she was capable of and
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how her body could change if sheput a little bit of mindset
behind it.
Lucy (22:40):
Exactly.
Was mindful about it.
Exactly.
And the other thing that we cando for our kids like that, that,
you know, she's got an interestin in nutrition, she's got an
interest in her body, image it,you know, and maybe it can go a
little too far in the wrongdirection.
So what we really need to do isjust be the best role models
that we can be.
(23:00):
And so when we start criticizingour bodies, and I am absolutely
guilty of this too, I have doneit in front of my kids and
realized it after the fact, butwhen we, you know, complain
about certain parts or thewrinkles or the aging process or
any of those things, they hearevery single bit of it, whether
they're girls or boys, they'rehearing it.
(23:22):
They're, they're witnessing itand they're seeing, they're
seeing how we view our bodiesand they're also seeing what we
do for our bodies, what we'reputting in our bodies, what we
are eating, what we're doing forphysical activity, stress, and,
and all the things.
And, and they're maybe you don'trealize that they're paying
attention, but they absolutelyare.
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And it, it does affect how theythink about their own body and
how they think about things.
So it's just something that weneed to think.
Jaime (23:50):
Oh, absolutely.
Especially with girls.
I mean, especially with girls,just because that, that whole
body image I never knew itstarted so young.
Like she was asking me in thecar yesterday about body shaming
and I'm like, Where are youlearning these words from?
I don't talk like that at home.
I encourage modesty, even thoughI would walk around naked 24 7
(24:14):
if I could, you know, if Ididn't feel, think it would make
other people uncomfortable, justbecause I'm not a modest person,
but I believe in modesty.
So I, if that makes sense.
Like I'm comfortable beingmyself no matter what I'm
wearing.
But I also believe in beingdiscreet, covering up the things
like as I mentioned before, thisshirt's a little, a little
uncomfortable for me because Isee it.
(24:35):
I'm like, No, that's not how Ilike to display my body.
So she was asking me aboutwearing a half shirt cause I
don't.
There's a, oh my gosh, what isit?
Raise your hand, touch your toesif anything shows.
Change your clothes.
Lucy (24:48):
Oh, is that a school rule?
Jaime (24:50):
No, that's, I heard that from someone a while back.
Just another mama and I, That'smy rule.
Yeah, that's my rule.
So she said, I know I can't wearthis to, or I know you won't let
me wear this half shirt toschool.
And I said, Well, it's not thatI won't let you wear it to
school.
It's that school has rules.
You can't wear that.
You know, you can't expose yourtummy, your mid drift of your
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body.
And I said, But my rule is thatyou're not even gonna wear it
outta the house because you needto have a little bit more
respect for your body and yourskin.
And there's certain places thatI don't think you need to
advertise at the age of nine.
You're gonna get attention fromthe wrong people for the wrong
reasons.
And I don't want that to startnow.
Maybe when you're, you know,late teens, twenties, you're
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gonna have more flexibility whatyou wear, what you put on your
body.
But if I can protect you alittle bit longer, I'm gonna do
that.
And you may not like me for it.
And that's okay.
I'm not here to be your friend.
I'm here to be your mom.
Yeah.
So, and she didn't like that onebit, but, but she's like, Well,
what's wrong with my tummy?
Are you shaming my body mom?
And I said, No, I'm protectingyour heart.
Like I'm protecting your mind.
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And it starts with how we treatour body.
And if you're gonna go out andstart wearing skimpy clothes,
people are gonna see that youmight have a little less
discretion it's important thatwe are those role models for our
kids and.
Something that, this hasprobably taken it too far, but
my daughter would walk in andI'm naked out of the shower or
(26:14):
whatever, and this is my nineyear old too.
And she goes, Mom, I'm like,What are you, are you
embarrassed about seeing what areal woman looks like?
You know?
And so we joke about it.
I'm, I'm comfortable walkingaround without anything in front
of my girls.
My boys ate.
I, I have those boundaries now.
I know that it's not healthy.
I don't do it.
But if I'm in my bedroom andthey walk in, no, my daughters
(26:36):
walk in, no big thing.
And this morning I mentionedthat she wanted something for
her eyes for the wrinkles.
Mm-hmm.
right?
So I had these little eyepatches or whatever that you put
underneath that's like a coldpatch, like a gel.
It was clean ingredient gel.
So she put that on and she tookit off and she goes, My wrinkles
were still there, Mom.
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I'm like, she's like, why are mywrinkles?
There?
Okay, you're nine, sweetie.
You don't have wrinkles,
Lucy (27:02):
Right.?
Jaime (27:02):
This is just your body.
This is how you were made.
I'm like, look at, look atmommy's chin.
Mommy's got kind of a doublechin no matter, no matter what
size my entire body is.
But that's genetics.
Look at my dad.
He's got that chin.
Look at the pictures from mygrandfather.
He's got that chin.
That's the way God made me.
It's just my body, right?
(27:23):
So don't obsess over theselittle things that you see as
imperfections.
It's just who you are.
Lucy (27:28):
Yeah, it's, it's loving our body.
It's learning to love our body,and it's so difficult with this
culture that we are in, and it'sokay.
Show that your show to your kidsthat it's, we don't have to
always be doing everything thatthe rest of society does.
Like the clothing style rightnow is definitely, I mean, you
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walk into the junior section andthere is no shirt that goes all
the way down to your waist.
It, it, they don't exist.
So that is culture pushing ourus to, towards a certain way of
doing things, but it also has aneffect on the way we feel about
our body.
They are giving us messagesconstantly about the way we
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should be looking and should bethinking about how we look and
should feel about our body.
I mean, there's, there's so manythings, so many messages, and
it's okay to go against thegrain.
It's okay to.
Wear those clothes.
It's okay to not eat the foodsthat they're telling of us that
we should all be eating.
(28:33):
and that it's okay to, you know,go out for fast food and, and
Jaime (28:36):
or like jump on the latest diet trend of ketos.
Well, South Beach, I don't evenknow if that's a thing anymore,
but I remember when South Beachwas
Lucy (28:43):
Oh yeah, I remember.
Jaime (28:44):
So it's like, it is like the society tells us all that we
need to try all these things andYes.
What is it, if you stand fornothing, you will fall for
everything.
Yes.
And that's just another example.
Lucy (28:54):
Exactly.
Yeah.
So it's, it's okay to thinkdifferently.
It's okay to go against thegrain.
It's, it's okay to do thingsthat not everybody else is
doing.
And that's a really good messageto give to our kids too.
Jaime (29:06):
I agree.
I agree.
All right, so I know I can takeus off on these tangents so
easy.
So sorry, but that back to theone question I had that I wanted
to tie things together a littlebit here for the audience, but
also for me because you've gotmore of the experience on the
nutrition side to where I bringin the ingredients of our
products.
Now, let's say that you havegone on this journey of better
(29:29):
nutrition and you've startedeating better, and maybe you did
cut out fast food and it's justa very rare occasion and you're
getting some lean meats and somegrass fed beef, and you, you're
doing better.
You're, you're cooking more ofyour own meals, you're feeling
better, you're enjoying it.
When you optimize yournutrition?
Lucy (29:48):
Hmm.
Jaime (29:48):
How do other toxins still affect you?
Lucy (29:51):
Even if you, even if you're not putting'em in your
mouth anymore, is there stillinflammation or did you fix it
all by eating better?
Well, you know, so inflammation,it's, it's happening.
It starts in your gut.
It's from the damage that we aregetting from the sugar and the
processed foods and theinflammatory oils and the toxins
that are in our foods.
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And so what happens is thatgives us that damage in the gut
and that produces thisinflammatory response.
Well, that inflammatory responsecan also be induced by other
things like stress.
If you're in like a chronicstress type of state, which
many, many of us are, then thatcan cause inflammation.
(30:33):
The inflammation can also becaused from environmental
toxins, the air we're breathing,the water we're drinking, the
products that we're using, andthen it can also be from a lack
of movement and a, and a lack ofAC physical activity, and then
also from a lack of sleep.
All these things have an effect.
It's not just one thing.
(30:54):
It's definitely a combination ofeverything.
And so that's what we reallyneed to be focused on.
Now, one thing that you can dothrough food, which is what I do
with my clients, is teach themhow to build up that really
good, healthy gut bacteria sothat you are the most protected
that you can be.
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Because we can handle sometoxins.
Our bodies are pretty rugged.
And so if we are taking care ofour guts, if we are taking care
of the bacteria that lives inour guts and we are eating
really good food, then we canhandle the occasional toxins in
certain products or, you know,certain things that we eat or
(31:35):
certain products that we use,or, you know, when we go to work
and we don't have control overthe paint that they used and
the, and the air quality, we canhandle that if we take really
good care of our nutrition.
and do as many of the thingsthat will boost our immune
system as possible.
And that, that's really what itcomes down to is just boosting
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your immune system as much asyou can.
Jaime (31:57):
Yeah, that's, that's what kind of what came to mind when
you were saying that?
Cause we strengthen our immunesystem, then we're able to
deflect some of the things thatcome our way and they're not as
easily absorbed or they'reeasily excreted, so to speak,
through sweat or just ournatural body processes.
But if, if our body is always ina state of stress, our organs
(32:17):
are in our state of stressbecause we're not having the
proper nutrition, then thetoxins in your ingredients or in
the environment, even outsideyour house, the pesticides that
you walk barefoot on your grass,right?
All of those things are gonnabuild on your system faster
because your body is notnutritionally optimized to help
process things, to get rid ofthe bad stuff and continue to
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feed on the good stuff.
Lucy (32:39):
Right, Exactly.
Yeah.
And so I actually have a handoutthat I wanna share with your
audience.
Yes.
And it is the anti-inflammatoryquick start guide so that you
can start optimizing yournutrition and getting your gut
bacteria as healthy as possibleso that you can handle, you
(33:00):
know, so that you can processsome of these toxins that we are
just automatically going to beexposed to.
So I would love to share that.
You could put the, the link inyour show notes so that.
Jaime (33:10):
I would love that.
Thank you so much.
I, I can't wait to dig into thatmyself.
awesome.
I know I'm always calling youabout questions with my daughter
and And what, she's got some gutissues that I've always been
concerned about.
I love picking your brain aboutthings, but I'm excited for this
guide.
Thank you so much for sharingthat with me in the audience.
You're welcome.
So I'll put it in the shownotes.
(33:31):
Absolutely.
So it'll be available.
And then can you tell us wherewe can get in touch with you?
I'll put it in the show notes aswell, but if you could just tell
us that would be wonderful.
Lucy (33:38):
Yes, I hang out a lot on Facebook, and so that's
@lucyhutchingrd..
And then I also have a privateFacebook group for the women
that are working on ananti-inflammatory diet, and
that's a very active group.
I have tons of fun in there withall kinds of information and
tips and weekly live trainings.
(34:00):
And then you can also find me atmy website, which is just
www.lucyhutchingsrd.com.
Jaime (34:06):
Would you also like to share your podcast?
Tell us and quick little thingabout your podcast, because I
absolutely love listening to itand I was honored to be a guest
not too long ago on there.
Lucy (34:17):
Yes.
I am also the host of theHealthy Mama podcast, which is
so much fun to do every week.
A new episode comes out everyweek and it's all topics related
to, you know, healthy living andnutrition, and a focus on being
busy mom and figuring it all outand figuring out how to make it
(34:38):
simple and how to make itrealistic because we can't all
be perfect and I wouldn't wantanybody to try and strive for
perfection.
We don't need that.
Jaime (34:47):
Progress over perfection any day in my book.
For sure, for sure.
Well, thank you so much, Lucy,for taking the time today and
sharing us, sharing with us allof your expertise and wonderful
stories, and I just lovechatting with you.
This was so great.
Thanks.
Lucy (35:00):
This was super fun.
Thank you, Jaime.
Jaime (35:03):
thank you for listening to the eco mama podcast today.
I really hope you enjoyedhearing Lucy talk about
nutrition as much as I did.
Don't forget to check back inthis Friday.
When I go through our focusFriday deep dives on
ingredients.
This week we'll be discussing,formaldehyde.
What it is.
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How it gets in our products, andwhy we should avoid it.
Have a great week eco mamas.
Well happy Tuesday everyone.
I am so excited today to bringon Lucy Hutchings.
Lucy, why don't you go ahead andtell us a little bit about
yourself?
Lucy (00:49):
Hello.
Thank you so much for having me.
So yeah, I've been a registereddietician for over 14 years and
I spent a lot of my careerworking in hospital as an
inpatient clinical dietician.
And so I really got a lot of, I,I really got frustrated a lot of
the time because a lot of thepeople that I was seeing in the
(01:12):
hospital were people that couldhave prevented a lot of the
illnesses that they were dealingwith because of just a, a poor
information that they had beengiven over the years.
And so I really wanted to workmore with people that were,
before they got into thehospital side of things.
(01:33):
And so that's really what got meto start my own private practice
Wellness from Within Nutrition,where then I can work with
people before it becomessomething that needs to be
hospitalized.
I know that there's a lot ofpeople out there that are
interested in preventablepreventative medicine.
And so that's where really whereI enjoy working now at this
(01:55):
point is working with people onthe preventative side of
things..
Jaime (01:59):
I absolutely love that and that, I think that's one of
the reasons we click so well isbecause I have that mindset of
being proactive too.
What I love to do in my side iseducating about the harmful
ingredients in a lot of ourproducts and catch it, you like,
let people know about it beforeit becomes a problem because
it's not so easy to reversethose issues, whether it's, you
(02:22):
know, long-term debilitateddiseases by overexposure of
environmental toxins or on yourcase, you know, if you continue
to expose yourself to thingsthat are unhealthy and they
start creating adult onsetdiabetes, I'm sure that's one of
the things that you've seen alot of struggles with.
So like being proactive inpreventative side, investing in
(02:43):
the time and energy into yourhealth now, before it becomes a
problem.
Lucy (02:48):
Yes, exactly.
And there are so many thingsthat the environmental toxins do
to our bodies that is a realproblem and then does develop
into these chronic diseases andother problems.
And so, you know, even though Italk a lot about nutrition and
food, obviously when I'm workingwith people, but there's more
(03:11):
than just the nutrition and foodaspect to health.
And that's why, you know, comingon and talking about this with
you in particular is soimportant to me because it's,
it's more than just the food,it's also our environment.
It's also the products, it's thetoxins, it's also our stress,
it's also our sleep.
It's our movement.
(03:31):
There's so many components togood health.
It's not just one thing.
And that's why I think it'sreally important to talk about
all the different aspects.
Jaime (03:40):
I agree.
And it, it's, it's funny though,cuz it can be so overwhelming.
I would love to know.
Like everything about all ofthose topics and be able to help
others.
But there's so much to dive intowith every single little thing,
so many different nuances.
So I love having someone likeyou, as a resource for myself
because I, I'm all aboutnutrition.
(04:00):
That's where it started for me,but I never really went the
extra mile for the education andputting all of those components
together on, the most importantthings to optimize our health.
We'll get into a little bit withgut biome and because you do a
lot with gut health, but I, soI, I agree 100% that it is all
related.
(04:21):
And when you talk about optimalhealth and I had seen your post
just the other day where it wasour, our time is, is a great
asset, but so is our health.
And so what good is our time ifour health is not optimized?.
And, and what good is our healthif our time is not optimized?
So, you know, those two goentangled together.
But when you want to optimizeyour health, it is, it's your
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environmental toxins.
It's the products you use, it'sthe food you eat, it's your
exercise, it's your sleep.
It's almost like I was thinkingof like this little you think of
the Holy trinity, okay?
Lucy (04:52):
Mm-hmm.
You have this trinity of healthand it's the products that we
use and the toxins we're exposedto.
It's the food that we eat, butit's also our mental state.
Yes.
Jaime (05:04):
And if in our mental state is affected by our sleep,
by our exercise, by the peoplewe allow into our lives, our
relationships.
So that's all in the mental, andthis is the food we put in our
body, and this is the air webreathe and the the products
that we put on our body.
And you need all three of those.
Angles in the triangle,
Lucy (05:25):
Yes.
Jaime (05:25):
For optimal health.
And it's, it's really difficultfor one person to know all of
it, you know, to have just thatone go-to.
Yes.
So so I love it when you and Ican collaborate with something
like this to help othersunderstand both sides of this
part of the triangle.
And I'm looking forward tomeeting someone else on the top
(05:45):
there for the mental health thatcan work with us, and we can
come back on together with themand talk about how it all
relates.
So when we talk about optimizingour health and the food that we
eat, you educate people on whatis healthy for them and that
healthy balance.
And it's, it's not about diet,it's about lifestyle.
Lucy (06:02):
Yes.
Jaime (06:03):
Correct?
Lucy (06:03):
Exactly.
For sure.
Yeah, and, and so what I do is Iactually focus more on just a
healthy whole foods way ofeating.
I call it an anti-inflammatorydiet, but it's what that really
just means is eating the bestfoods as close to nature as
possible.
(06:24):
But I also take a veryrealistic, sustainable approach
because I am a busy mom and Iknow you are too, and I'm sure a
lot of your audience is, and alot of my audience is as well.
We are busy moms.
I have three kids that are, are,you know, my oldest is 10, and
so I can't always spend all mytime in the kitchen making my
(06:48):
own food and making my ownproducts, and, and doing all the
things, you know, we still haveour busy lives to deal with.
And I want healthy living to beas easy and sustainable and
realistic as possible.
Jaime (07:06):
Well, and you have a gift like that.
You make it very accessible.
You, your approach to helpingothers.
It makes it simple and easy, andit's not about being legalistic,
Lucy (07:19):
Right.
Jaime (07:19):
With the changes that need to be made.
And it's, you're also reallygood with pointing out and
praising people for the goodthat they're already doing.
Lucy (07:28):
Yes.
Jaime (07:28):
Because sometimes we think about all that we're not
doing, and then we shameourselves and we put ourselves
down, and then we're overwhelmedand we feel like it's not good
enough.
What, what's the point?
What's the point in making thechanges?
But when you highlight all thesuccesses that people are
already doing in their life,it's kind of like when I say,
Oh, you're already living moresustainably than you believe.
You're already being kinder tothe earth, or you're already
(07:51):
using, Look at these productsthat you're already safer with.
Like kudos, Right?
Lucy (07:56):
Yeah.
I mean, just the fact thatpeople are listening to this
podcast right now is already astep in the right direction.
Jaime (08:03):
Absolutely.
Good point on that.
So I also wanted to talk about,so once, once you educate people
on the more holistic way ofeating with back to nature food
with that realistic mindset, cuzyes I am, we I love that we've
figured out our kids are almostthe same age.
I have three as well and they'relike maybe six months apart from
(08:25):
each other.
So, what is your take on fastfood?
How does that affect yourfamily?
Lucy (08:31):
Yeah, that's a great question.
So, because I talk a lot aboutinflammation and healthy gut,
which you know, is affected bythe foods we, in our stress and
our environmental toxins and allthe things.
Well, since inflammation doeswreak havoc on our bodies, and
it's something that wedefinitely want to avoid, one of
the things that can causeinflammation is processed foods
(08:56):
and sugar and foods that arecovered with pesticides and, and
all the things, you know,non-organic foods and so fast
food really does fit into thatprocessed foods toxins and
sugar.
And that type of eating is goingto cause this damage to your
(09:17):
gut.
It's going to cause an imbalancein your gut flora.
All the good, healthy bacteriathat you want in there gets
damaged when we eat theseprocessed foods in the sugar.
And so we, we don't wanna dothat a lot.
Now that being said, I also,again, go back to the realistic
part of things and I think thatthere are times and places when
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maybe fast food is justsomething that just has to be
done on a rare occasion becausestress also reeks havoc on our
body, And so if taking fast foodout of your diet is going to
cause total stress and anxietyin your life, then maybe that's
not the first place to start.
(10:00):
And maybe that's something thatyou'll tackle in a very small
step type of process.
Jaime (10:08):
Yeah.
Lucy (10:08):
So that's my take on it.
Jaime (10:09):
What about you?
Well, maybe if it's, So I, Ihave a, I have a similar take,
but there's, I guess I, Isegment a little bit different
with the different restaurantsthat, that I go to now.
So maybe when, just for anexample, if fast food is
something that's already part oftheir everyday life, and you
don't wanna just cut that outright away, start thinking about
(10:31):
what's on the menu.
What are some of the healthierchoices you can make by what
those restaurants do offer?
Yes.
So for my, my personal thing, Iquit fast food in my twenties.
If it had a drive through, Iwouldn't go to it.
Now, fast forward to when I havekids and I was a little too
legalistic to where I didn't, Iwouldn't even go anywhere.
(10:51):
I would not let them eat any ofit.
And then we did a road trip, Wedid like a 10 hour road trip,
and my girlfriend was like,Chick-fil-A is fine.
You can do Chick-fil-A.
It's, there's, there's worsethings out there.
But if, if you're gonna do fastfood with your kids, let it be
Chick-fil-A because they do havea higher sustainability and
ethical practice with the foodthat they serve.
(11:14):
They try to use cleaneringredients.
So is it, is it deep fried?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's still, That's why it's sogood.
Do they put sugar and salt inabsolutely everything?
Yes, they do.
And that's why it tastes sogood.
But doing it on a regular basis,no.
So when they.
I think when my youngest wastwo, maybe one.
Anyway, my kids had their firstfast food, so, and now maybe
(11:36):
once a month we'll doChick-fil-A.
They would do it every week if Ilet'em.
And they would want a milkshakeevery single time.
But, cause they love all thatgoodness.
But no, it's, it's kind of aspecial treat.
I very rarely like to use it orspecial treat or last minute, no
other options.
Yes, in a hurry, late forbaseball.
Didn't have time to pack somefood to take with us.
(11:59):
And don't want to eat all thejunk food at the concession
stands at the baseball game.
Lucy (12:03):
Right, exactly.
It's so important to think aboutsaving your sanity and it's also
important to think about whatchoice could you make that
that's worse.
Like maybe the concession standat the, at the game.
Jaime (12:15):
Yes.
Lucy (12:15):
Would've been a worst choice.
And so of course we can look atthe menu at the fast food
restaurants and we can make thebest choices.
You know, if there's a way toget the salad or the veggies in
or leave off the bun, then thoseare are some small steps that
you could take to make it alittle bit better.
And of course it is just a, alast minute type of choice.
(12:37):
You know, it's not somethingthat we really wanna plan on.
But again, saving your sanity isone of, is one of those things
that I think is very important.
Jaime (12:46):
Yeah.
Well, and another tip is it'ssuper small, but to me it makes
a big difference cuz we, we, ifwe fill up on fruits and
vegetables before we eat, The,the heavier things that we love
so much, then we don't need asmuch because we or we start
listening to our bodies and wefeel full and satisfied because
the things we need are in thosefruits and vegetables.
(13:07):
But you could, you could alwaysask to like, leave off the
cheese and double up the lettuceand tomato.
So you're getting a little bitmore of the good stuff and the
flavor is still there withoutthe cheese.
Lucy (13:17):
Yes.
Jaime (13:18):
I've learned to have sandwiches without cheese now,
but it was a process.
It was not, not something thatI, I don't, I, it's not
something that was overnight,you know, it was a mindset that
I had to slowly change.
And one time I tried it without,and it was not so bad.
And then when I do have thecheese on the sandwiches now,
It's rare.
It's very rare, right?
(13:39):
Yes.
Step by step.
Lucy (13:40):
And I do have a story to share with you since you brought
up going on a trip.
I actually went on a 14 day roadtrip with my kids.
And now this isn't, I wouldn'trecommend this for everyone, but
I actually got through theentire trip with no fast food
until the very last day westopped at five guys.
(14:03):
And so it can be done.
Jaime (14:05):
Mm-hmm.
Lucy (14:06):
But I already had a lot of experience with planning and I'd
already had a lot of experiencewith figuring out how to make
things work without having tostop and, and compromise the
food quality.
So, you know, for me, stoppingat fast food would've been an
absolute last resort.
(14:26):
I had a lot of plans in placeahead of time and I was in at a
point in my life where I could.
Take the time to make thoseplans.
So again, it's not foreverybody, but it can be done.
Yeah.
14 days road trip, no fast foodat all the whole time.
Jaime (14:42):
That is, that is absolutely amazing.
So five guys, my husband, tmi,but when he gets a, a
colonoscopy, so he's not a fastfood guy anymore.
He used to be, when we met andmy very first podcast, I shared
the story where when I met him,I'd gone seven years without
fast food and he was flooredbecause it was a way of life for
him.
He was a single bachelor and hehad no idea how you lived
(15:03):
without going through thedrive-through.
I mean, he would eat hot dogs atthe gas station for breakfast
sometimes, you know, but so he'scome a long way.
I'm so proud of him and thechanges that he's made is
because he wanted to, notbecause I asked him to.
So it's, it's very wonderful tosee those, those health changes
that he's made for his ownchoices.
So he doesn't do fast food on aregular basis because he now
(15:23):
feels the difference of his bodyof what After he eats fast food
versus a meal that I cook.
Big difference.
And he avoids it at all costsunless it's after his
colonoscopy.
Because once he gets hiscolonoscopy and he hasn't eaten
for 24 hours, he wants thebiggest burger five guys can
give.
And he wants the big bag offries all to himself.
(15:46):
And I think even one year I gothim a milkshake just to like
push him all the way to thelimit, you know?
So we literally leave thefacility from the colonoscopy
and we go to five guys on theway home.
Lucy (15:59):
Wow.
Jaime (16:00):
And he gorges.
And then he goes to sleep forlike five hours.
Lucy (16:05):
You know, there's, there's something to be said though for
the changes that he's made andthe awareness that he now has.
That's so important because he'snever gonna forget that that's
something that he can't unlearn,that he feels differently when
he eats fast food compared towhen he eats your homemade
cooking.
(16:26):
And sometimes we don't recognizethat feeling until we take some
time to really hone in on it andfocus on it.
And then we realize, you know, Idon't actually feel that great
when I eat fast food.
And it, it doesn't make mehappy.
It doesn't bring me good energyand good health.
And so those are the types ofthings that when we recognize
(16:48):
it, it makes it easier to makethe choice to not have it so
much.
I just thought that was a reallygreat point.
Jaime (16:55):
Yeah, no, I'm glad.
I'm glad you brought it that,because I mean, I see it that
way, but you're very good atarticulating it that way to help
others like hone in on, on thegood takeaways.
And that brought me to a quicklittle story I'll share, and
then I wanna move on to anotherimportant question about our,
our health and how the toxinscan affect, even if we're doing
the right thing with what weeat.
(17:16):
So my nine year old has recentlybecome a little, a little more
obsessed with her nutrition thanI would like.
Mm-hmm.
she has, I think I've been alittle lax with some of the
things she's watched on YouTubeand she's a little concerned
about her weight.
She has my body type, so it'seasy for her to gain weight and
(17:38):
hard for her to lose it.
She doesn't have a very fastmetabolism.
She's not naturally an athleteor fit.
All that said, she, she'samazing.
She is everybody's favorite.
She has been on my podcast.
You're gonna hear her, andyou're gonna say, that girl
needs her own.
So her personality like justreally shines through.
(17:59):
And she's still beautiful.
She's absolutely beautiful.
And she actually put on a littleeye mask this morning because
she was like, I have wrinklesmom.
So she's getting, I know she'sgetting into the vanity side.
I'm like, You're too young to beworrying about these things.
Okay.
So she says, I need to eat lesssugar.
How can I be healthier?
I want to eat more salads.
How can I like vegetables?
(18:21):
And I said, Well, you, you,sometimes you have to fake it
till you make it.
And you just eat what you knowis good for you and you
eventually will get a taste forit.
And it doesn't mean you have tostop eating the things that you
enjoy, but just try to eat moreof the healthier things and then
your body's not gonna need asmuch as the unhealthy stuff.
So she's also very, veryobsessed with Starbucks.
(18:42):
Now, that is also a, a raretreat that I will give myself
much less to my children.
She's had it once before whereshe had a decaf but it was one
of those sugary drinks that shereally wanted.
So she saw a commercial foranother sugary Starbucks drink
that was seasonal.
And I said, I'll make a dealwith you.
If you can go six days withoutdessert, without a sweet treat,
(19:05):
then I will take you and I willbuy it for you.
Lucy (19:08):
Wow.
Jaime (19:09):
And she really, really wanted it.
And I was like, She's not gonnado that.
You know, cuz this is the kidwho will like, she'll sneak an
extra cookie and, and granted wetry to make our own cookies, but
she'll, they'll be gone before Iknow it.
So anyway, she.
Did the, she did a five day fastwithout sweetss, without sugars.
She was eating no more, no morelike the buns at school for
(19:31):
breakfast.
She got off the chocolate milk.
She didn't have juice.
Like she literally did all this,right?
And then they love Hawaiian fortheir lunches at school.
And yes, I know there's betterbread out there.
I used to make all my own bread.
Again, sanity, right?
Like, so you have to make yourcompromises.
(19:52):
At least we eat our food at homeor we eat at home, or we make
our lunches on, on the regular.
So it's not like they're gettinga bunch of process stuff at the
school.
I know the process stuff thatI'm buying.
So she was snacking on aHawaiian rule without making a
sandwich, just like, I thinkmaybe put a piece of bread in
her mouth while she was making asandwich for school one morning
(20:13):
and she goes, Mom, this Hawaiianroll is really sweet.
Lucy (20:18):
Wow.
Jaime (20:18):
Yes.
Like it was, And that was daythree.
It took three days of minimizingher sugar intake to start to
taste the sugar and the foodthat she'd never tasted before
because she was so used tonumbing her taste buds with all
of that.
Yes.
And that is just so amazing howour bodies are designed.
And you're right, if you go alittle while without the yucky
(20:42):
stuff, you'll start to see andtaste and feel a difference.
Lucy (20:50):
Exactly.
It's that awareness.
That was such an amazing story.
And how old is your daughter?
Nine.
Nine years old, and she was ableto learn so much from this
experiment.
She was able to learn the, firstof all, where the sugar is in
her life, because most peopledon't even realize how much
(21:11):
sugar they're getting throughoutthe day.
And then the next thing she wasable to learn was that her taste
buds could change and that shecould actually, you know,
appreciate the healthier foodsmore.
Because once your taste budschange like that, then things
like fruits and vegetables aregoing to taste even more
magnificent.
Because
Jaime (21:31):
Richer.
Yeah, richer.
And the flavors.
And it's almost, you can't getenough of it because your body's
craving the, the real naturalsugars as opposed to the
processed sugars.
Lucy (21:41):
Yes.
And she was able to see what shecould do, that she could make a
change in her diet and actuallyfulfill that for several days in
a row.
So did she ever get the, thecoffee drink?
Jaime (21:54):
I ended up giving it to her on the fifth day and I was
actually surprised that thedrink that she wanted didn't
have that much sugar in it,after all.
I didn't do the research before,but I didn't bring that to her
attention when we were atStarbucks.
I'm like, She picked a drink,that's not that bad, you know?
Yeah.
Cause they can get, you look atthe calorie count, the sugar
(22:14):
count, a lot of the Starbucksdrinks.
Yes.
And and I like when I do gothere, I, I don't get the
artificial sweeteners oranything like the I just get the
straight up whole milk and, andcoffee espresso.
But, so when, when I saw herselection, I kind of felt guilty
putting her up to thatchallenge.
But like you said, like that wasa beautiful life lesson.
It was an opportunity for her tosee what she was capable of and
(22:37):
how her body could change if sheput a little bit of mindset
behind it.
Lucy (22:40):
Exactly.
Was mindful about it.
Exactly.
And the other thing that we cando for our kids like that, that,
you know, she's got an interestin in nutrition, she's got an
interest in her body, image it,you know, and maybe it can go a
little too far in the wrongdirection.
So what we really need to do isjust be the best role models
that we can be.
(23:00):
And so when we start criticizingour bodies, and I am absolutely
guilty of this too, I have doneit in front of my kids and
realized it after the fact, butwhen we, you know, complain
about certain parts or thewrinkles or the aging process or
any of those things, they hearevery single bit of it, whether
they're girls or boys, they'rehearing it.
(23:22):
They're, they're witnessing itand they're seeing, they're
seeing how we view our bodiesand they're also seeing what we
do for our bodies, what we'reputting in our bodies, what we
are eating, what we're doing forphysical activity, stress, and,
and all the things.
And, and they're maybe you don'trealize that they're paying
attention, but they absolutelyare.
(23:42):
And it, it does affect how theythink about their own body and
how they think about things.
So it's just something that weneed to think.
Jaime (23:50):
Oh, absolutely.
Especially with girls.
I mean, especially with girls,just because that, that whole
body image I never knew itstarted so young.
Like she was asking me in thecar yesterday about body shaming
and I'm like, Where are youlearning these words from?
I don't talk like that at home.
I encourage modesty, even thoughI would walk around naked 24 7
(24:14):
if I could, you know, if Ididn't feel, think it would make
other people uncomfortable, justbecause I'm not a modest person,
but I believe in modesty.
So I, if that makes sense.
Like I'm comfortable beingmyself no matter what I'm
wearing.
But I also believe in beingdiscreet, covering up the things
like as I mentioned before, thisshirt's a little, a little
uncomfortable for me because Isee it.
(24:35):
I'm like, No, that's not how Ilike to display my body.
So she was asking me aboutwearing a half shirt cause I
don't.
There's a, oh my gosh, what isit?
Raise your hand, touch your toesif anything shows.
Change your clothes.
Lucy (24:48):
Oh, is that a school rule?
Jaime (24:50):
No, that's, I heard that from someone a while back.
Just another mama and I, That'smy rule.
Yeah, that's my rule.
So she said, I know I can't wearthis to, or I know you won't let
me wear this half shirt toschool.
And I said, Well, it's not thatI won't let you wear it to
school.
It's that school has rules.
You can't wear that.
You know, you can't expose yourtummy, your mid drift of your
(25:11):
body.
And I said, But my rule is thatyou're not even gonna wear it
outta the house because you needto have a little bit more
respect for your body and yourskin.
And there's certain places thatI don't think you need to
advertise at the age of nine.
You're gonna get attention fromthe wrong people for the wrong
reasons.
And I don't want that to startnow.
Maybe when you're, you know,late teens, twenties, you're
(25:32):
gonna have more flexibility whatyou wear, what you put on your
body.
But if I can protect you alittle bit longer, I'm gonna do
that.
And you may not like me for it.
And that's okay.
I'm not here to be your friend.
I'm here to be your mom.
Yeah.
So, and she didn't like that onebit, but, but she's like, Well,
what's wrong with my tummy?
Are you shaming my body mom?
And I said, No, I'm protectingyour heart.
Like I'm protecting your mind.
(25:53):
And it starts with how we treatour body.
And if you're gonna go out andstart wearing skimpy clothes,
people are gonna see that youmight have a little less
discretion it's important thatwe are those role models for our
kids and.
Something that, this hasprobably taken it too far, but
my daughter would walk in andI'm naked out of the shower or
(26:14):
whatever, and this is my nineyear old too.
And she goes, Mom, I'm like,What are you, are you
embarrassed about seeing what areal woman looks like?
You know?
And so we joke about it.
I'm, I'm comfortable walkingaround without anything in front
of my girls.
My boys ate.
I, I have those boundaries now.
I know that it's not healthy.
I don't do it.
But if I'm in my bedroom andthey walk in, no, my daughters
(26:36):
walk in, no big thing.
And this morning I mentionedthat she wanted something for
her eyes for the wrinkles.
Mm-hmm.
right?
So I had these little eyepatches or whatever that you put
underneath that's like a coldpatch, like a gel.
It was clean ingredient gel.
So she put that on and she tookit off and she goes, My wrinkles
were still there, Mom.
(26:56):
I'm like, she's like, why are mywrinkles?
There?
Okay, you're nine, sweetie.
You don't have wrinkles,
Lucy (27:02):
Right.?
Jaime (27:02):
This is just your body.
This is how you were made.
I'm like, look at, look atmommy's chin.
Mommy's got kind of a doublechin no matter, no matter what
size my entire body is.
But that's genetics.
Look at my dad.
He's got that chin.
Look at the pictures from mygrandfather.
He's got that chin.
That's the way God made me.
It's just my body, right?
(27:23):
So don't obsess over theselittle things that you see as
imperfections.
It's just who you are.
Lucy (27:28):
Yeah, it's, it's loving our body.
It's learning to love our body,and it's so difficult with this
culture that we are in, and it'sokay.
Show that your show to your kidsthat it's, we don't have to
always be doing everything thatthe rest of society does.
Like the clothing style rightnow is definitely, I mean, you
(27:52):
walk into the junior section andthere is no shirt that goes all
the way down to your waist.
It, it, they don't exist.
So that is culture pushing ourus to, towards a certain way of
doing things, but it also has aneffect on the way we feel about
our body.
They are giving us messagesconstantly about the way we
(28:13):
should be looking and should bethinking about how we look and
should feel about our body.
I mean, there's, there's so manythings, so many messages, and
it's okay to go against thegrain.
It's okay to.
Wear those clothes.
It's okay to not eat the foodsthat they're telling of us that
we should all be eating.
(28:33):
and that it's okay to, you know,go out for fast food and, and
Jaime (28:36):
or like jump on the latest diet trend of ketos.
Well, South Beach, I don't evenknow if that's a thing anymore,
but I remember when South Beachwas
Lucy (28:43):
Oh yeah, I remember.
Jaime (28:44):
So it's like, it is like the society tells us all that we
need to try all these things andYes.
What is it, if you stand fornothing, you will fall for
everything.
Yes.
And that's just another example.
Lucy (28:54):
Exactly.
Yeah.
So it's, it's okay to thinkdifferently.
It's okay to go against thegrain.
It's, it's okay to do thingsthat not everybody else is
doing.
And that's a really good messageto give to our kids too.
Jaime (29:06):
I agree.
I agree.
All right, so I know I can takeus off on these tangents so
easy.
So sorry, but that back to theone question I had that I wanted
to tie things together a littlebit here for the audience, but
also for me because you've gotmore of the experience on the
nutrition side to where I bringin the ingredients of our
products.
Now, let's say that you havegone on this journey of better
(29:29):
nutrition and you've startedeating better, and maybe you did
cut out fast food and it's justa very rare occasion and you're
getting some lean meats and somegrass fed beef, and you, you're
doing better.
You're, you're cooking more ofyour own meals, you're feeling
better, you're enjoying it.
When you optimize yournutrition?
Lucy (29:48):
Hmm.
Jaime (29:48):
How do other toxins still affect you?
Lucy (29:51):
Even if you, even if you're not putting'em in your
mouth anymore, is there stillinflammation or did you fix it
all by eating better?
Well, you know, so inflammation,it's, it's happening.
It starts in your gut.
It's from the damage that we aregetting from the sugar and the
processed foods and theinflammatory oils and the toxins
that are in our foods.
(30:12):
And so what happens is thatgives us that damage in the gut
and that produces thisinflammatory response.
Well, that inflammatory responsecan also be induced by other
things like stress.
If you're in like a chronicstress type of state, which
many, many of us are, then thatcan cause inflammation.
(30:33):
The inflammation can also becaused from environmental
toxins, the air we're breathing,the water we're drinking, the
products that we're using, andthen it can also be from a lack
of movement and a, and a lack ofAC physical activity, and then
also from a lack of sleep.
All these things have an effect.
It's not just one thing.
(30:54):
It's definitely a combination ofeverything.
And so that's what we reallyneed to be focused on.
Now, one thing that you can dothrough food, which is what I do
with my clients, is teach themhow to build up that really
good, healthy gut bacteria sothat you are the most protected
that you can be.
(31:14):
Because we can handle sometoxins.
Our bodies are pretty rugged.
And so if we are taking care ofour guts, if we are taking care
of the bacteria that lives inour guts and we are eating
really good food, then we canhandle the occasional toxins in
certain products or, you know,certain things that we eat or
(31:35):
certain products that we use,or, you know, when we go to work
and we don't have control overthe paint that they used and
the, and the air quality, we canhandle that if we take really
good care of our nutrition.
and do as many of the thingsthat will boost our immune
system as possible.
And that, that's really what itcomes down to is just boosting
(31:55):
your immune system as much asyou can.
Jaime (31:57):
Yeah, that's, that's what kind of what came to mind when
you were saying that?
Cause we strengthen our immunesystem, then we're able to
deflect some of the things thatcome our way and they're not as
easily absorbed or they'reeasily excreted, so to speak,
through sweat or just ournatural body processes.
But if, if our body is always ina state of stress, our organs
(32:17):
are in our state of stressbecause we're not having the
proper nutrition, then thetoxins in your ingredients or in
the environment, even outsideyour house, the pesticides that
you walk barefoot on your grass,right?
All of those things are gonnabuild on your system faster
because your body is notnutritionally optimized to help
process things, to get rid ofthe bad stuff and continue to
(32:38):
feed on the good stuff.
Lucy (32:39):
Right, Exactly.
Yeah.
And so I actually have a handoutthat I wanna share with your
audience.
Yes.
And it is the anti-inflammatoryquick start guide so that you
can start optimizing yournutrition and getting your gut
bacteria as healthy as possibleso that you can handle, you
(33:00):
know, so that you can processsome of these toxins that we are
just automatically going to beexposed to.
So I would love to share that.
You could put the, the link inyour show notes so that.
Jaime (33:10):
I would love that.
Thank you so much.
I, I can't wait to dig into thatmyself.
awesome.
I know I'm always calling youabout questions with my daughter
and And what, she's got some gutissues that I've always been
concerned about.
I love picking your brain aboutthings, but I'm excited for this
guide.
Thank you so much for sharingthat with me in the audience.
You're welcome.
So I'll put it in the shownotes.
(33:31):
Absolutely.
So it'll be available.
And then can you tell us wherewe can get in touch with you?
I'll put it in the show notes aswell, but if you could just tell
us that would be wonderful.
Lucy (33:38):
Yes, I hang out a lot on Facebook, and so that's
@lucyhutchingrd..
And then I also have a privateFacebook group for the women
that are working on ananti-inflammatory diet, and
that's a very active group.
I have tons of fun in there withall kinds of information and
tips and weekly live trainings.
(34:00):
And then you can also find me atmy website, which is just
www.lucyhutchingsrd.com.
Jaime (34:06):
Would you also like to share your podcast?
Tell us and quick little thingabout your podcast, because I
absolutely love listening to itand I was honored to be a guest
not too long ago on there.
Lucy (34:17):
Yes.
I am also the host of theHealthy Mama podcast, which is
so much fun to do every week.
A new episode comes out everyweek and it's all topics related
to, you know, healthy living andnutrition, and a focus on being
busy mom and figuring it all outand figuring out how to make it
(34:38):
simple and how to make itrealistic because we can't all
be perfect and I wouldn't wantanybody to try and strive for
perfection.
We don't need that.
Jaime (34:47):
Progress over perfection any day in my book.
For sure, for sure.
Well, thank you so much, Lucy,for taking the time today and
sharing us, sharing with us allof your expertise and wonderful
stories, and I just lovechatting with you.
This was so great.
Thanks.
Lucy (35:00):
This was super fun.
Thank you, Jaime.
Jaime (35:03):
thank you for listening to the eco mama podcast today.
I really hope you enjoyedhearing Lucy talk about
nutrition as much as I did.
Don't forget to check back inthis Friday.
When I go through our focusFriday deep dives on
ingredients.
This week we'll be discussing,formaldehyde.
What it is.
(35:24):
How it gets in our products, andwhy we should avoid it.
Have a great week eco mamas.
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