December 15, 2021 • 36 mins
It is season wrap up time.
We are so incredibly grateful for all who have joined us on the podcast journey over the past few months & can not wait to return in 2022 with more curated content and bite sized actionable steps to move you from where you are to where you want to be. We wish you the very best over this festive time!
In this episode we reflect, discuss, curate & plan:
- Reflections from the season & checked in on how we were living up to our mission
- Importance of celebrating small wins & encouragement for you to celebrate your wins
- Offered thoughts on most important and most enjoyable pods
- Our one wish for all women & BIG goal for 2022
- Why a Business or Financial Coach are key
- Curated tips for switching off over the festive season (see below)
- Summer reading recommendations (a nice fictional change from our usual MO)
SHOW NOTES:
Celebrating Small Wins TED talk by Canadian-based educator Mehrnaz Bassiri
Dare to Lead, Brene Brown
Self Care, Michelle Gibbings LINK
How to Holiday when your brain is still in work mode, Huffington Post, Rachel Moss LINK
For further switch off encouragement: FORBES, Michelle Gibbings,
If you are interested in Business Coaching and not sure where to start Inspired Reality with Belinda Cohen is my recommendation for my friends and colleagues https://www.inspiredreality.com.au/services/coaching
Summer Reads (only time Fiction graces our Pod)
- Dictionary of Lost Words, Pip Williams
- Silent Patient, Alex Michaelides
- Daisy Jones & the Six, Taylor Jenkins Reid
- Malibu Rising, Taylor Jenkins Reid
- The Herd, Andrea Bartz
- The Nothing Man, Catherine Ryan
- Apples never Fall, Liane Moriarty
- Klara and the Sun, Kuzua Ishiguro
- Love & Virtue, Diana Reid
- Well Hello, Annabel Crabb & Leigh Sales
If you are keen to check out any of the books for Summer: http://www.booktopia.kh4ffx.net/Elevate
To catch up on all things Elevate with Grace please subscribe to our Instagram or Website
We would love your feedback. Please drop us a line via either of the above or our email elevatewithgrace@gmail.com
Have a wonderful festive break and a very happy new year Elevatee's and we look forward to providing loads more to support your journey in 2022!
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Episode Transcript
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Miranda (00:00):
Welcome to the elevate with grace podcast, for women
(00:02):
who are short on time and longto take steps, to create success
on their own terms.
Our aim is to curate and sharethe best tips, insights, and
knowledge from all of thecontent out there and take the
brain strain out of it by givingyou the, so what, and some
immediate actionable steps foryou to slept seamlessly into
your life each week, that willhelp you.
That will help propel you fromwhere you are to where you want
(00:24):
to be.
In each episode, we look intoone of the pillars of our
elevate with gray success onyour own terms model, where we
explore taking smart risks,cultivating our careers and
fueling our financial power.
These three elements worktogether even better when we
look at them within the broadercontext of the big picture
aspirations we have for ourfuture selves.
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We're also paying attention tonot letting this stuff that
might be holding us back,getting our way.
Claire (00:49):
A big, massive welcome to our listeners and to you
Miranda I'm Claire cornfield,and this is our 12th elevate
with grace podcast and our lastpodcast for 2021.
I am more than a little bitstoked that we have delivered
our first podcast season of 12episodes with some seriously
wonderful curated content, howare you going my friend.
(01:11):
are
Miranda (01:11):
I am very excited that we have delivered 11 episodes to
date.
I love This time of year, isalways fun.
I'm a big festive nut.
I love the lights.
I love the Christmas.
Claire (01:21):
Yes, I've started to get into it.
It was a bit full on to go fromzero to a thousand at this time
of year, I've had my massiveChristmas jingle hoops on this
it's nice to get into that timeof year.
It is the perfect time to bereflecting on the year that has
been and getting really excitedabout the year that is going to
be, I think I'm always a bigadvocate for you can start any
time that you.
(01:41):
It is a very auspicious time ofthe year where we do need to,
embrace and enjoy the fact thatwe can wrap up one year and
start a new one.
So it's great.
I was just reflecting on whatwe've covered in our first
season of Elevate with Gracepodcasts over the last few
months.
We have covered a massiveamount.
We Started an episode, talkingabout our passion for inspiring
and supporting women to create alife of success on their own
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terms.
Then our mission is to deliverthoughtful and curated
experiences and actionable stepsto make that happen for
ourselves.
It all centers around the fiveelements of our elevate with
great success on our own termsmodel in pod two.
Started to explore why we haveto talk about what might be
holding us back, which is oneabout five pillars.
(02:26):
And we wanted to kick start somethinking about where as women we
might need to get out of our ownway sometimes and be aware of
when those things might happen.
And then into podcast rated forour chats were really centered
around why knowing your why issuper important to driving
towards success on your ownterms.
And we curated some bad contenttogether.
(02:46):
There's some ways to startlooking to do that for
yourselves, a bit of a shittyfirst draft on your why and add
some other bits and pieces thatwe covered then.
And then podcast five was ourvery first review, which was
really fun.
That was the one thing, thesurprisingly simple truth behind
extraordinary results.
Which we both really enjoydiving into.
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And then we moved into afour-part series to explore all
things around our smartrisk-taking pillar and we
create, and we curated somesuper awesome content to share
with our listeners about makingdecisions and how we can more
confidently make decisions.
In helping us be brave out totake smart risks and achieving
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our vision for the success thatwe want to deliver for
ourselves.
Knowing our why can really helpme find, some of that stuff we
had some awesome chats aboutwhat it means to cultivate our
careers.
And so we.
Punch through a bunch of greatcontent that we found that we
want to share around this.
And then we rounded out with ourlast episode before this one,
but it was, it's definitely nota least pillar about fueling and
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financial power and gettingcurious about finessing our
finances.
So I am so proud of his Mirandafor launching a bunch of amazing
content in these first 11episodes.
We've had well over 500downloads.
So if people listening topodcast so in the year that's
been I feel really proud of thatstuff.
And I personally have learned agreat deal of stuff and absolute
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ton of things as we've beenkick-starting this passion
project of ours so far, it'sbeen really great.
Miranda (04:21):
Absolutely.
And you're so right, Claire,there is just so much to learn
and unpack in bringing thispodcast and this idea of elevate
with grace to life.
Lots of great learning andwe've, I massive congrats
definitely a champagne poppingmoment and a very exciting
season two and hopefully seasonthree and more what to come out
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of this, there is just so muchhere to unpack.
So I'm also just really proud ofus.
It is so easy to dream up todream up an idea, even to map
out an idea.
But as we all know, takingaction can be the real
challenge.
And when it's a, non-revenue,it's a massive want to help
project.
You'd like, it's needed.
There really is so much intrying to bring that to bear.
(05:02):
So I love that we've made it toepisode 12 and that we've
created this this cool thing,which, I've been really grateful
that we've received somewonderful feedback from those
who have listened to thepodcast.
It's helped them see something,that's holding them back.
They've used a couple of toolsto make a big decision and my
heart just swells.
And I just, I'm so grateful forthat feedback and I hope that,
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we can touch more people andsupport them in this great big
audacious life.
So yeah, and as I mentioned,there is just so much that's
come out of this way.
We've got more episodes and morecontent that we want to get
ready for 2022.
So couldn't be more excitedabout that.
Claire (05:37):
I think it's really critical that we support the
little wins.
There's a great Ted talk by aCanadian based educator Mehrnaz
Bassiri.
And she talks about thetransformational power of small
wins.
We've talked about it in a fewof the episodes that we've had
this year.
Basically Besara says that thereis one big mind shift that we
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have to make in setting theseforces in motion in terms of the
transformational power of smallwins.
We have gotten really habituatedin seeing major successes in the
news media or in the socialmedia posts that we follow.
It's all about theirachievements and all this sort
of stuff.
We can get ourselves into asituation where we feel that our
accomplishments and not reallythat worthy of acknowledgement
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to ourselves within this sort ofoutsized, massive nature of the
expectations that we see in themedia around us.
Once we've got one small winaccomplished, then the forces
are set in motion to favoranother small win and another
small win until we get acombination of small wins that
lead to larger and greateraccomplishments.
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That's mostly what we talk aboutit's just one little action,
bite sized, actionable steps inthese elements to create success
on your own terms.
And that's just one littlesuccess in one little step.
And we just need to keep.
Acknowledging that andcelebrating that.
So it's pretty cool.
Miranda (06:54):
Absolutely.
And I think also our listeners,there's been maybe a couple of
things that you've done thisyear that have lifted you a bit
further up and you're so trackclear the social media lens.
Doesn't offer people that viewof the work behind the scenes,
all the other bits and piecesthat are happening.
So I think everybody.
Needs to celebrate a small win,whatever that is for you this
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year.
And, celebrating small wins hasalways been super important.
I've always worked in a longtender cycle kind of world.
And so this is just an essentialpart of the work culture that
I've been part of.
It's certainly when you run amarathon, you've got a.
Really celebrate thosemilestones along the way.
I've made it five Ks.
I've made it 10 Ks.
I've been, up to 15 becauseotherwise you just really lose
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sight of the ending andeverything just feels so far
ahead of you.
Bernie brown actually talksabout this in her book, daring
to lead as one of the keyingredients of daring leadership
over Armoured Leadership.
doing so you're encouraging yourteam to really race it and to
focus on the next small goal infront of them, which yeah,
absolutely.
Was the one thing premise aswell, encouraging each of you
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attain, encouraging yourself tomove towards that next step.
And that next step, rather thanjust this really big goal out
there in front, that you mightnot reach for a very long time.
So yeah.
High energy on that one.
Claire (08:09):
The challenges in the rollercoaster that we've been
through, make us reassess, insome ways it's even more
profound and interesting youtake it a step back and thought
I want to do.
less things, but doing themconsciously and think about some
of the collective challengesthat we've faced in our
communities and what colleaguesin our home lives and how you
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can use some of that stuff toreally think about what that
means for us in terms of whatwe're sending for our lives and
our goals and how they're goingto living our best lives going
forward.
And so there's always a silverlining.
I think I remember at one pointmy girls who are eight and 10 as
and they felt like this thingwas never going to end.
And I said, the one thing Idon't know much, but the one
thing that I do is that I knowis that tough periods always
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come to an end.
After the experience I would allhad it feels more intense and
broader about the opportunitiesthat are gonna come from that.
So from having those kind ofreally powering experiences for
many, so
Miranda (09:04):
yeah, how much more do you value your girlfriends when
you catch up for dinner and youdon't want to be late and you
want to cyber every momentbecause how I get to hang out
with you again, and I get toenjoy a meal with you I really
loved the recap that you justdid of the podcast episodes thus
far and reflecting on thosepillars and then how he dived
into those topics.
(09:24):
I wonder if you have a favoriteepisode yet?
Claire (09:27):
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
They're all my favorites it'shad to put some quantifiable
structure around which one's myfavorite, but I think episode
seven, when we were talkingabout boosting our
decision-making confidence, Ithink I really liked the content
that we covered from thatepisode.
So any duke, Seth Goden in myeyes.
Heaps more, after the lastcouple of years that we've all
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been through, I do think thatmany of us are looking to make
decisions and changes in variousaspects of our lives.
Whether we're doing thatalready, we have done that.
there's a lot of decision-makingand change that people are
looking at and reflecting on.
I personally got a lot out ofthat episode, myself in terms of
my own career and personaljourney and some of the
decisions and risks that I wantto take and make.
(10:08):
And I just believe that learningmore about our risk biases and
decision-making styles is reallycrucial right now.
And I've just found that belowthat content I really enjoyed.
And then I have a bit of a love,hate relationship with the last
episode we did episode 11.
So I had.
Quite a severe case of impostersyndrome when it comes to that
episode I really.
I feel energized whenever I'mtalking about all things, women
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and money women, money andfinancial empowerment and the
financial freedom that it bringsand how important it is to have
a longterm view of that sort ofstuff for yourself and your
financial independence.
As that's something that I'mreally passionate about.
It was great to get aconversation started on that
last week.
Miranda to do have any ones thatyou loved?
Miranda (10:50):
I am so grateful that you took on the challenge of
episode 11.
I love your passion aroundfinance and women.
I also think you've just donesome incredible work and live
some big financial experiencestonight.
So back to that small way and orbig win I think we all benefit
from learning a little bit fromyou and celebrating that in that
process.
For me the episode I pointeveryone to and perhaps the most
important concept is making surethat women are not getting in
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their own way in episode two andalso understanding what else is
holding them back it's not allus, there is definitely some
things happening there withsociety that we need to just, be
aware of.
We covered a lot of topics andwe just did them quite high
level.
I've looked forward to reallydigging into that in more
detail.
I was talking to a workcolleague recently, and we
didn't deep dive into this toomuch in episode two, but that
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awareness of what career gaps dothat whole wife drought
phenomenon of Annabel's crabsbook is just so many women are
making those decisions withoutreally thinking of the long-term
impact.
I do find that quite scary.
And it does keep falling back onthe women's careers regardless
of their position, really to bethe one that supports the child
when they're sick, the familymember, when they need to take
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care of.
That their work takes a hit whenthings get a little bit too hard
to balance at home.
Claire, we briefly spoke lastweek about the risk that being
to present as a mom in theworkforce, has potentially
impacted career progressionprobably an area where we will
definitely talk more andhopefully find some solutions
together, but it's a really bigaudacious challenge.
We can definitely change some ofthe things that we're doing to
hold ourselves back, before wedecided to take a career break,
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think about the long termimpacts on your super on your
career progression on yourincome, obviously working part
time, not just today, but in 20years time.
If divorce does happen, whatdoes that mean for the balance
and where you sit?
Yeah, I think that one's reallystuck with me.
It's something that I'm hearingfrom colleagues and I'm saying
do some thinking and really lookinto it.
And certainly this colleague Iwas talking about was completely
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shocked and had never reallygiven any of that.
A pause for five years doesn'tfeel like a bad thing at the
time.
Claire (12:44):
you're right.
There's so many.
And I think there's, there is somuch to look at that.
I think I, as I think about it,I think that episode and also
about having, Like being a bitclear on your vision.
You don't have to have it allperfect.
But understanding that you mightbe doing a lot of spoke about it
a few times.
Like they, yes.
But reasons for the spike, I'veput so many years into this
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particular career or yes, but Ireally need to be there for my
kids because I feel like societyexpects that from me or yes, but
I think we do a lot more of thatthan we probably think we're
doing.
And some of the time I've, someof the mentoring conversations
I've had.
Often, if I step away from itthink about the key message, the
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key messages you just need toget out of your own way, this
next dream, big everyone is ascapable as everyone else.
And so there's, yeah, there's alot in that.
So I agree.
We wanted to raise it, but wedidn't want to spend all season
talking about that stuff.
But I think there's definitely alot more to unpack because we
really went through those topicsfor me when we spoke about that
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in episode two, but it's being,and I think it's big too after
COVID.
I think there's a lot of that.
There's a lot of evidence therethat shows that women have had
to take a step back again.
So it made all this progress.
And then because of thehomeschooling and of the
implications that have happenedthrough COVID, it's it's a bit
of a, two steps forward, onestep back kind of scenario that
was happening as well.
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So it gets even more importantto be talking about some of that
stuff.
Impacting burnout levels and allsorts of crazy stuff.
So yeah.
Good point.
It was a very important.
Miranda (14:19):
Absolutely now I think the most enjoyable episode and
the one that had a lot of funwith definitely the episode
seven on this decision makingI've absolutely devoured all of
any Duke's work.
then that book review of MRIs,zags, I she's just a, such a fun
character.
So I felt like that was a lot offun to discuss and, some great
outtakes in terms ofdecision-making, which also
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helps with that episode too of.
Making sure you, you've got alot of great decision-making
tools and then winging it forthe rest and deep diving in the
yes.
and.
Not the yes.
but.
So you know, on that, are thereany big outtakes that have stuck
with you?
Maybe on this or just anothercontent, you know what stuck
with you through this?
Claire (14:58):
Yeah I think I've really enjoyed our conversations.
It's really challenged me aroundthe need have a vision and dream
big and have audacious goals.
And it doesn't matter if younever get there, but if you
don't have.
Then you're not stretchingyourself to get out of your own
way and think about all of thatsort of stuff.
Having an SFD of my, why thatreally has stuck with me because
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I think it does help you.
Decide what part of thefinancial finessing stuff you
want to work on and what risksyou want to take and what are
you prepared to look at in termsof what career transitions or
moves you want to make?
Again?
Doing that as much.
I think we will wonder whetherit's worth right to do it or not
is definitely something hashelped to form some of those
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initial thinking.
Also the concepts of the onething that review they have
consistently stuck with me.
So whenever I started to feeloverwhelmed and anxious,
Speeding and out of plates atany given time.
I do stop and check myself toask what is the one thing I can
do right now to make everythingeasier or unnecessary?
What's the one thing that if Ido that tomorrow, some of that
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stress will go away and I won'tfeel so bad about stuff.
And so I've used that quite alot actually.
So I found that's really stuckwith me.
Miranda (16:11):
I love it.
For me, It's been around howhard habits are to form and
maintain.
So I actually came into the 2021with some reasonable habits
around my 60 minutes, 5:00 AM.
And the way that the yearprogressed and what was going
on, it was very much an up anddown on actually delivering on
that habit.
I was listening to the gentlemanthat wrote atomic habits the
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other day.
he was really just saying habit.
Forming is a lifetime process,as much as we want it to be
something that happens in 21 or66 days if you stop doing that
certain habit that you've got toget back on that horse and keep
going again.
And it's not.
Always just easy, but thebenefits of having those habits
and having that default are justso strong and I really want to
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be a more habitual person goingforward.
There's lots and lots of studiesaround the benefits from even
just taking off that mentalload, taking out that decision,
making that you're just going todo those things.
It's not a question.
It's not something that you needto make a decision on.
It's ingrained in your.
day so continue to work.
So it piece of work for me, it'slike a continual pace of
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progress.
The other thing too, that isthat how challenging it is to
live.
The one thing, so habit formingand then the one thing and you
think, yep.
I've got my one thing.
I know what I'm doing and Idon't know about you, but I just
find myself consistently gettingderailed.
Something.
Aspire and we'll focus on beingbetter at, I think going forward
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is just that one thing.
What's the most important thing.
How do I not get lost in thetidal wave of busy?
Claire (17:39):
So an acceptance of doing a little reset.
Not to be hard on ourselves ifwe fall off the wagon, like
that's hard to, I think we'rejust always so having SL so
yeah.
Thinking about our listeners andour tribe that we're trying to
create here and what we'retrying to support?
What if you had one wish forwomen going into 20, 22, what
would that be
Miranda (18:00):
for me?
one wish I feel very much aboutknowing your own power.
I think so often women givethem.
For women, we give our poweraway to our employer.
We sit back and wait formanagers to tell us where, ready
for the next step or whatever.
Potentially, we're hearing abouthow many women are giving away
them.
How if financial power what'sholding you back, there's so
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many.
Things that you can be doing tocollectively hold onto your
empower and deliver that.
And we get an, the way in thatspace.
So if I've only got one wish andobviously I'd 20, but if I've
only got one way, sh I thinkit's for me to know your own
power
Claire (18:33):
I like the fact that you said that you wanted 20, I'm not
going to give you 20.
Maybe you can have a couplemore, but not in this episode,
we don't have time.
My one wish is for women to stopliving their lives on other
people's terms and to be braverabout listening to their gut and
taking action on their gutfeelings.
And also to be consciously awareof when we might be brushing
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those gut feelings aside andrationalizing it with a yes, but
because we've got all thatbaggage that comes along with
the unconscious biases.
We tend to just brush aside someof those feelings of what will
we know.
We should be doing somethingabout it, for 2022.
Do something about it, but takeaction, take some smart risks,
texts, and actions to cultivateyour career.
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Whatever that means to you, takesome actions on your finances.
Can't stress that enough aboutthe long-term implications of
all of that.
Put our fears aside and to makethe changes that we know we
bravely need to make, to set usonto a path for how we've
defined success for ourselves onour own terms.
Miranda (19:33):
I like both of our answers were so big picture
encompass.
A lot of topics are coveredunderneath it so we can use our
wishes very well.
If we ever run into a, any Ijust want to talk quickly about
something and we haven't been ona fit into an episode as yet.
And there's actually a couple ofpoints here.
That's just wanted to highlight.
And one of them was aninteresting fact that women say
20,000 words a day and men say7,000.
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And the thinking in this bookwas that we maybe talk
ourselves.
Promotions, there is so much inthe social contract of being
female versus being male that wecan get in our own way, in that
way as well.
So I thought that was just alittle fun fact.
I don't think I've spoken lessbecause of it, but, I'm inspired
to think about it at least.
We use less words, moresuccinct, and that link we, you
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spoke last week about justcommunicating to boards
differently, to communicatingwith friends and, succinctness
is valued so highly in thatgame.
So can absolutely see where itcan play to their strengths.
And then I think coming into theholiday period we've spoken, I
think about work-life balancearound boundaries or but we
haven't spoken, I think,directly to work-life balance.
And I do feel that there's likethis accumulation of concepts,
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that can help support us.
I thought it was just a nice oneto tap into and just think
about, how are we going in intothe holiday season?
How are we setting ourselves up?
Because so often we go into theholiday.
Racing, we're still gonna to doless pages long.
And maybe it's taking us acouple of days to get into the
groove of holiday.
You've got a couple of extradays and then you're back to
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work and you feel maybe morefatigued than even when you went
into work.
And we all think there's enoughstudies around there.
I think you have an awareness ofhow important holidays are to
avoid burnout.
And sometimes, the Christmasholidays can be really tough
because there is just sorry,many events and so very much
socializing.
So I think that balance andBeing comfortable with saying
no.
And, just taking on the amountsthat you can chew particularly
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as you mentioned, Clara has gonefrom zero to a hundred to a
thousand.
It doesn't need to all be hustleall the time.
So you know, some of the littlethings I did when I took a short
break earlier in the year wasactually deleted my mail app
from my friend.
Now that might not be big for alot of people.
You may have already lent.
Don't look at your emails whenyou're on holidays.
But I have to consciouslytalking mail into the search on
my phone.
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I can't access an app to accessthe mail and it makes such a big
difference for me, knowing thatI'm consciously checking this
versus just this automatic kindof push on the phone button,
almost like a Facebook kind ofpush or up Instagram, Bush,
which is also really bad.
I think I need to delete thosefrom my phone as well.
The other one is just empoweringthe team.
So if you're called with an SOScall, it's not taking any
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actions from the call, butempowering the team and then
maybe doing a quick meditationor kind of getting yourself back
into holiday mode for the quickwalk or something.
So you're not trying to solvethat issue because that mental
load can really take it on Justlooking at some great tips to
ensure that we can maximize ourdowntime.
Huffington post had an article2019 by Rachel Moss around how
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to switch off on the holidays.
I'll put these tips in the shownotes and the link because it
links got some really greatcontent around each of these
tips.
But for the speed of thispodcast, I want us to think
about things like.
Setting the foundations beforeyou leave.
And Michelle Giddings isactually also had some great
stuff around this, which ismaking sure that leading up to
the holiday you're reallyprioritizing what work you take
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on and not setting unrealisticdeadlines.
So you are taking on just theright amount of work that you
can achieve in that time orpushing it out to when you're
back.
And therefore you're not tryingto do a full-page of to-do lists
as you go into your holidaysavoiding work communications
while you're away, if at allpossible.
So the email tip would probablyhelp that one out and also the
phone calls only SOS.
(23:16):
There was a good piece in thereabout if you continue to set the
boundaries for your team, thatyou are available, that you are
checking that they're going toaccept or expect a response from
me.
Really being clear that youdon't want to set those
boundaries for.
Make a plan for holiday admin.
So make sure that you can be offtick as much as possible by
making a plan to take on thatholiday admin in advance or some
(23:38):
good planning around that ditchthe tech, wherever possible, ask
yourself why you can't relax.
So a lot of people change theirsleep patterns while on
holidays.
So there's some greatrecommendations around
maintaining sleep patterns.
Maybe not trying to.
Partying until one, two o'clockevery night, just a couple of
nights, but your holidays andreally being kind to yourself
and not taking on lots of gogiving yourself downtime during
(23:59):
your holiday period.
So some really good tips as wego into the new year, some great
topics or episodes that you'vebeen burning to, to discuss.
We haven't been able to fit intothe last week.
Claire (24:11):
Yeah, totally on reflection.
I think we've probably coveredso much that I would have to say
no, probably I would've lovedto, for us to come more, but
then we've just got to think,yeah, it's, we're on a marathon
here.
We can do all of that in 2022.
It doesn't all have to be donelike immediately.
So probably not.
I think one thing that I wasthinking of though, because I
(24:34):
guess I'm thinking about it formyself is, the value of
considering a business careercoach and also for those who the
concept of a financial coach aswell.
So that's not a financialadvisor.
And then it's not when you'regetting into financial dire
straits, and you need financialcounseling, there's a concept
that sort of really taking, holdof getting a financial coach to
(24:54):
help you with some of that.
Sitting around your long-termlike your, what your long-term
financial goals, what you wantfor your life and stuff like
that.
So either a business coach or afinancial coach I think is
something that is definitely agood thing to think about to
help.
But with some of that stuff, yousaid Miranda, like when we've
got so much.
How do we get someone to bounceoff, to bounce ideas off about
(25:17):
what do we need to do?
What is our next best move?
What are we planning on doing?
So I think that's probablysomething that I wouldn't mind
bringing to the table andsomeone from that, I'm quite
happy that we've distilled a lotof content in 2021.
I'm looking forward to breakingthem out a bit in our next
year's podcast.
Yeah, that's the lead for me onthat one.
Miranda (25:38):
I've never had a financial coach.
So I can't wait to hear moreabout that in future episodes.
I think as far as a businesscoach, absolutely.
I have just been so great.
A friend of mine introduced meto a business coach way back
when I was first given aleadership role.
And I think that, the reality ofleadership is that many people
go from being very tactical anddoing into a leadership role
(26:00):
without training.
And I've got this beautifulbusiness coach has helped me
through that.
Give me some great tips and somegreat guides in, back in 20, 20
13, 20 14.
And then, my last session withher.
And I check in every quarterwhen it's needed sometimes less.
It really just depends.
But having that person that sortof understands what your journey
(26:21):
is a little bit and can go withyou on that and pick up where
you were.
Really doesn't is such a greatasset.
And my last session, I was armedwith some of the great work that
we've done through thesepodcasts.
I had to clarity around my, whyI had my decision tree with
those supported breakoutbranches.
I could clearly articulate myfears and the magic just came in
(26:41):
this coach catching what I wasputting down and helping me to
clearly define what it was Ineeded.
We worked together on an actionplan to get to where I wanted to
be and some breadcrumbs to stopfinding my path whips.
Yeah, I totally agree, Claire.
Great.
Great recommendation.
So CLIA, so much stuff we'vecovered already.
I thought this was going to be areally quick, easy episode.
Do you have any cool goalsyou're excited about for 2022.
Claire (27:04):
Yes.
So I think inspired by him.
Isaac's you mentioned her and wedid the her winging at Booker.
I think one of the things thatreally resonated for me was how
much fun the MRIs.
Has or talks about having andall that sort of stuff.
And so I, my goal is definitelyto have more fun in 2022 for me,
(27:24):
2020.
And I think for a lot of people,20, 20 and 2021 was mostly about
surviving rather than thriving.
I learned a lot about myselfduring that period of time, but
it was definitely more towardsthis surviving spectrum of the
scale.
And so I want to hear you to 20to 22 with a much more
light-headed mindset at the backof everything I do.
Now, that's not to say that Idon't have people.
(27:46):
I get data's goals that I wantto set, but I just want to take
it out myself a little bit lessseriously, to be honest.
So I think I've been way toohard on myself.
These last two years, trying toput way too much pressure on
myself to be all things to allpeople.
And I haven't stopped torecognize and celebrate the good
things about myself anywherenear enough.
And so I want to do much more ofthat.
(28:08):
I think related to having morefun.
And, because I have to bring itup because it's so critical to
everything that I believe is Ireally want to work hard on my
money goals and my long-termsaving goals because for me,
financial freedom and financialindependence over the long-term
is such a critical foundationfor living a life designed by me
on my own terms.
And so I just want to make sure.
(28:28):
It's it's taught us anything.
It's we absolutely have no ideawhat's going to happen tomorrow.
What's going to happen nextyear.
What's going to happen 10 yearsfrom now.
And so having financial S havingsome plans around the financial
security that you can do thatfor yourself, I think is really
critical.
So I want to do a little bit ofthat.
And I really still want tocontinue with my journey of
learning.
(28:48):
I always want to do that everyyear, but I think learning about
who I am at my core and really.
Delving into some of that stuffthat I, that he then self-aware
of what he's holding me back,what, one of the stories that
I'm telling myself and how thatimpacts how I show up for myself
personally, and at work and formy friends and family and in the
(29:09):
local communities.
And so I've done a lot of workon myself this year and it's
been rather uncomfortable to saythe least, but it's, it's been
really worthwhile.
And so we continue to doubledown on that next year.
Miranda (29:20):
Cool goals there, Claire, very insightful.
And I love this idea of doublingdown on journey of you at your
core.
And I do think that once youarticulate that for yourself,
it's it changes how you show upfor people.
It changes how you articulatewhat you need by all.
Mantra of mindset should attractwhat you need to you.
Because you clear on it, you cantell people what you need and
(29:42):
communication is just so key inthat, getting to where we need
to be.
So for my goals are elevatingout, delivering on my mission
statement, shedding an episodefor.
To just value and leave that Yevery day.
So trying to hold for the valueon my one thing, focus on my
important work just does not getlost.
I think that gets really trickywhen there's a lot of demands on
(30:02):
you at one time.
And you're just feeling reallysunk, just putting my own oxygen
mask on first and trying to findways to empower people, to deal
with their own urgent, not takeit on.
It's just going to be soimportant to achieving that for
me.
And to be fair around myboundaries, I think bringing
that laughter and fun into myevery day.
And that's just always been whoI am.
And I think the last couple ofmonths have really.
(30:24):
Seeing that depleted.
So it's important to bring andthe energy and the excitement
and the optimism
Claire (30:31):
There's a really good connection there too, because
you're talking about, so youwanted to bring laughter and fun
back into your every day as likeone of the goals, but that I
think being firmer around you abit like being really firm
around your boundaries gettingyour own oxygen mask on they're
really interconnected.
In order to have fun andlaughter and relax more in your
day, then you really do have tohold strong on those boundaries.
(30:53):
And also looking after yourselffirst, before you can look after
others.
Miranda (30:57):
Thank you.
I think I'm going to print it upon a wall or something just to
make sure I remember in thosebusy times I think a big part of
this for me is diving into somesummer reading and taking a
really nice pause.
So a couple of summer writingbooks, and I'd love to hear what
your plans are as we round outthis episode and hopefully leave
our listeners with a bit of fun.
The dictionary of lost words isa book that I started back in
(31:21):
June and I've put it on hold.
I've been very disciplined notto go back to it.
I've got it in the, up to whereshe finishes boarding school and
she's gone to work on thedictionary so I'm looking
forward to finishing that oneand likewise, the silent
patient.
So bring on.
My beautiful friends Stephactually let me a book back in
2019.
After she had actually venturedoff on holidays with us and my
(31:41):
six month old baby, she left mea book, Daisy Jones and the six,
which I devoured it's fun.
I did notice that there is abook touted as the new daisy
Jones called Malibu Rising.
I read that this year.
Claire (31:52):
it was a bit of fun actually, quite
Miranda (31:53):
fun.
A bit of popcorn.
That's what I'm looking for.
Then I guess there's just someother thriller books.
One is a book called the herdwhich is Andrea Bartz.
It's a co-working space that'screated by women for women the
founder of this community goesmissing so I'd be interested to
read that one.
Another one which has, comesreally highly recommended as
coping nothing, man, byCatherine Ryan, so some fun
holiday writes.
(32:13):
What about you?
Claire (32:14):
I do a lot of reading.
So the last couple of years,I've had a KPI on myself to read
40 books each year.
I'm almost there for this year.
Matt books.
But when you're making me thinkabout reading for the summer, I
haven't even thought about it tobe honest.
I had a quick look, I was in.
Yesterday in the city.
I will check out.
Apple's never fall, by Liane,Moriarty, I've never read any of
(32:35):
her books, but I really didenjoy the TV adaptations, nine
perfect strangers and being alittle off.
The synopsis did sound prettypopcorny and lovely and
something that I could get into.
So I'm keen to try that one.
A couple of others on my to readlist is Clara and the sun, which
I think has a bit more kind ofheavy going, intellectual kind
of mindful reading there.
(32:57):
And one called love and virtue,which I think the girls chats in
looks three recommended.
I think Annabel Crabb gave thata ride review.
So I might check that out, butthe, her I'm going to check out
some of yours, I think too.
So now I've got to listen.
I'm going to have to distill andwork out which ones are going to
range.
And I think I'll also my bestmate walked for me.
Hello.
(33:17):
10 books, three book which isgreat.
It looks like it's a really funbook to read.
It's not really a standard book.
So I think I'm going to givethat a go cause I reckon that be
a bit of fundraising thisholiday time
Miranda (33:28):
as well.
Oh, fun.
All right.
That brings us to the end ofthis episode before we actually
dial out though.
I think we need to leave ourlisteners with an inspirational
thought or quart.
So for me, I have.
Gone quiet esoteric, so I feellike knowledge paired with
insight and a great plan thatyou're taking action on daily
will get you from where you areto where you want to be.
(33:48):
Really important knowledge,insight planning action.
What about you, Claire?
Did you a.
Claire (33:53):
I thought that I would bring up a couple of our own
bits of thought leadership fromour Instagram posts.
Since I went back and had aquick look at ones where we got
lots of likes.
Was every woman, needs a littlesupport.
Let's build each other up andprosper together.
I think has been a criticalelement to me, still standing at
(34:13):
the end of 2021 is the women inmy life that have supported me
through this time.
And I've hopefully supportedthem.
I will live.
I have had that.
I believe I supported them too.
So when that popped up and Inoticed that I thought, yeah,
that's the one.
Everyone we know needs a littlesupport.
Let's build each other up andprosper together.
Thinking for 2022,
Miranda (34:34):
I think love it.
All right.
That brings us to the end ofepisode 12.
We cannot thank you enoughlisteners for joining us on this
journey.
We really do just value you somuch.
I hope that we've given you abit of summer reading and the
lightness and some great tipsfor switching off in this
episode.
We are so grateful for yoursupport.
We would love if you could likeor share this podcast with a
(34:55):
friend who needs some greatinsights and some superpowers
for 2022.
So please feel, please we'd loveyou to share it, and hopefully
you can help out a friend andthen a fellow human doing side.
We want to wish all of ourlisteners, a safe and Merry
holiday season.
Look out for January four.
Be ready with a clear plan totackle the year ahead.
(35:15):
And remember your resolutionsand not limited to a timeframe.
Anytime resolutions can becreated any time they define
your why and support you inachieving success on your own
terms, sign up to our email listand we'll start to cultivate
that one and a huge, thank you,Claire.
It's been a great episode andit's been a great year.
I am so grateful for you.
Claire (35:35):
Okay.
Miranda (35:35):
we'll put all of the links in the episode nights,
please visit our Insta post formore inspiration, please visit
our Insta place for moreinspiration.
Emailus@elevatewithgraceatgmail.com.
Check out our website, elevatewith grace.
Dot com.edu.
There is going to be some greatblogs and such over the summer.
Claire (35:52):
Thank you so much for that.
That was a lovely wrap up.
So I went to anymore, exceptthank you so much to, you've
been amazing support and I'veloved everything we're doing and
I can't wait to keep going withthis in 2022 and beyond.
Miranda (36:05):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank
Claire (36:06):
you.
Bye.
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Claire (00:49):
A big, massive welcome to our listeners and to you
Miranda I'm Claire cornfield,and this is our 12th elevate
with grace podcast and our lastpodcast for 2021.
I am more than a little bitstoked that we have delivered
our first podcast season of 12episodes with some seriously
wonderful curated content, howare you going my friend.
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are
Miranda (01:11):
I am very excited that we have delivered 11 episodes to
date.
I love This time of year, isalways fun.
I'm a big festive nut.
I love the lights.
I love the Christmas.
Claire (01:21):
Yes, I've started to get into it.
It was a bit full on to go fromzero to a thousand at this time
of year, I've had my massiveChristmas jingle hoops on this
it's nice to get into that timeof year.
It is the perfect time to bereflecting on the year that has
been and getting really excitedabout the year that is going to
be, I think I'm always a bigadvocate for you can start any
time that you.
(01:41):
It is a very auspicious time ofthe year where we do need to,
embrace and enjoy the fact thatwe can wrap up one year and
start a new one.
So it's great.
I was just reflecting on whatwe've covered in our first
season of Elevate with Gracepodcasts over the last few
months.
We have covered a massiveamount.
We Started an episode, talkingabout our passion for inspiring
and supporting women to create alife of success on their own
(02:04):
terms.
Then our mission is to deliverthoughtful and curated
experiences and actionable stepsto make that happen for
ourselves.
It all centers around the fiveelements of our elevate with
great success on our own termsmodel in pod two.
Started to explore why we haveto talk about what might be
holding us back, which is oneabout five pillars.
(02:26):
And we wanted to kick start somethinking about where as women we
might need to get out of our ownway sometimes and be aware of
when those things might happen.
And then into podcast rated forour chats were really centered
around why knowing your why issuper important to driving
towards success on your ownterms.
And we curated some bad contenttogether.
(02:46):
There's some ways to startlooking to do that for
yourselves, a bit of a shittyfirst draft on your why and add
some other bits and pieces thatwe covered then.
And then podcast five was ourvery first review, which was
really fun.
That was the one thing, thesurprisingly simple truth behind
extraordinary results.
Which we both really enjoydiving into.
(03:07):
And then we moved into afour-part series to explore all
things around our smartrisk-taking pillar and we
create, and we curated somesuper awesome content to share
with our listeners about makingdecisions and how we can more
confidently make decisions.
In helping us be brave out totake smart risks and achieving
(03:30):
our vision for the success thatwe want to deliver for
ourselves.
Knowing our why can really helpme find, some of that stuff we
had some awesome chats aboutwhat it means to cultivate our
careers.
And so we.
Punch through a bunch of greatcontent that we found that we
want to share around this.
And then we rounded out with ourlast episode before this one,
but it was, it's definitely nota least pillar about fueling and
(03:53):
financial power and gettingcurious about finessing our
finances.
So I am so proud of his Mirandafor launching a bunch of amazing
content in these first 11episodes.
We've had well over 500downloads.
So if people listening topodcast so in the year that's
been I feel really proud of thatstuff.
And I personally have learned agreat deal of stuff and absolute
(04:16):
ton of things as we've beenkick-starting this passion
project of ours so far, it'sbeen really great.
Miranda (04:21):
Absolutely.
And you're so right, Claire,there is just so much to learn
and unpack in bringing thispodcast and this idea of elevate
with grace to life.
Lots of great learning andwe've, I massive congrats
definitely a champagne poppingmoment and a very exciting
season two and hopefully seasonthree and more what to come out
(04:41):
of this, there is just so muchhere to unpack.
So I'm also just really proud ofus.
It is so easy to dream up todream up an idea, even to map
out an idea.
But as we all know, takingaction can be the real
challenge.
And when it's a, non-revenue,it's a massive want to help
project.
You'd like, it's needed.
There really is so much intrying to bring that to bear.
(05:02):
So I love that we've made it toepisode 12 and that we've
created this this cool thing,which, I've been really grateful
that we've received somewonderful feedback from those
who have listened to thepodcast.
It's helped them see something,that's holding them back.
They've used a couple of toolsto make a big decision and my
heart just swells.
And I just, I'm so grateful forthat feedback and I hope that,
(05:22):
we can touch more people andsupport them in this great big
audacious life.
So yeah, and as I mentioned,there is just so much that's
come out of this way.
We've got more episodes and morecontent that we want to get
ready for 2022.
So couldn't be more excitedabout that.
Claire (05:37):
I think it's really critical that we support the
little wins.
There's a great Ted talk by aCanadian based educator Mehrnaz
Bassiri.
And she talks about thetransformational power of small
wins.
We've talked about it in a fewof the episodes that we've had
this year.
Basically Besara says that thereis one big mind shift that we
(05:58):
have to make in setting theseforces in motion in terms of the
transformational power of smallwins.
We have gotten really habituatedin seeing major successes in the
news media or in the socialmedia posts that we follow.
It's all about theirachievements and all this sort
of stuff.
We can get ourselves into asituation where we feel that our
accomplishments and not reallythat worthy of acknowledgement
(06:19):
to ourselves within this sort ofoutsized, massive nature of the
expectations that we see in themedia around us.
Once we've got one small winaccomplished, then the forces
are set in motion to favoranother small win and another
small win until we get acombination of small wins that
lead to larger and greateraccomplishments.
(06:39):
That's mostly what we talk aboutit's just one little action,
bite sized, actionable steps inthese elements to create success
on your own terms.
And that's just one littlesuccess in one little step.
And we just need to keep.
Acknowledging that andcelebrating that.
So it's pretty cool.
Miranda (06:54):
Absolutely.
And I think also our listeners,there's been maybe a couple of
things that you've done thisyear that have lifted you a bit
further up and you're so trackclear the social media lens.
Doesn't offer people that viewof the work behind the scenes,
all the other bits and piecesthat are happening.
So I think everybody.
Needs to celebrate a small win,whatever that is for you this
(07:14):
year.
And, celebrating small wins hasalways been super important.
I've always worked in a longtender cycle kind of world.
And so this is just an essentialpart of the work culture that
I've been part of.
It's certainly when you run amarathon, you've got a.
Really celebrate thosemilestones along the way.
I've made it five Ks.
I've made it 10 Ks.
I've been, up to 15 becauseotherwise you just really lose
(07:36):
sight of the ending andeverything just feels so far
ahead of you.
Bernie brown actually talksabout this in her book, daring
to lead as one of the keyingredients of daring leadership
over Armoured Leadership.
doing so you're encouraging yourteam to really race it and to
focus on the next small goal infront of them, which yeah,
absolutely.
Was the one thing premise aswell, encouraging each of you
(07:57):
attain, encouraging yourself tomove towards that next step.
And that next step, rather thanjust this really big goal out
there in front, that you mightnot reach for a very long time.
So yeah.
High energy on that one.
Claire (08:09):
The challenges in the rollercoaster that we've been
through, make us reassess, insome ways it's even more
profound and interesting youtake it a step back and thought
I want to do.
less things, but doing themconsciously and think about some
of the collective challengesthat we've faced in our
communities and what colleaguesin our home lives and how you
(08:30):
can use some of that stuff toreally think about what that
means for us in terms of whatwe're sending for our lives and
our goals and how they're goingto living our best lives going
forward.
And so there's always a silverlining.
I think I remember at one pointmy girls who are eight and 10 as
and they felt like this thingwas never going to end.
And I said, the one thing Idon't know much, but the one
thing that I do is that I knowis that tough periods always
(08:53):
come to an end.
After the experience I would allhad it feels more intense and
broader about the opportunitiesthat are gonna come from that.
So from having those kind ofreally powering experiences for
many, so
Miranda (09:04):
yeah, how much more do you value your girlfriends when
you catch up for dinner and youdon't want to be late and you
want to cyber every momentbecause how I get to hang out
with you again, and I get toenjoy a meal with you I really
loved the recap that you justdid of the podcast episodes thus
far and reflecting on thosepillars and then how he dived
into those topics.
(09:24):
I wonder if you have a favoriteepisode yet?
Claire (09:27):
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
They're all my favorites it'shad to put some quantifiable
structure around which one's myfavorite, but I think episode
seven, when we were talkingabout boosting our
decision-making confidence, Ithink I really liked the content
that we covered from thatepisode.
So any duke, Seth Goden in myeyes.
Heaps more, after the lastcouple of years that we've all
(09:48):
been through, I do think thatmany of us are looking to make
decisions and changes in variousaspects of our lives.
Whether we're doing thatalready, we have done that.
there's a lot of decision-makingand change that people are
looking at and reflecting on.
I personally got a lot out ofthat episode, myself in terms of
my own career and personaljourney and some of the
decisions and risks that I wantto take and make.
(10:08):
And I just believe that learningmore about our risk biases and
decision-making styles is reallycrucial right now.
And I've just found that belowthat content I really enjoyed.
And then I have a bit of a love,hate relationship with the last
episode we did episode 11.
So I had.
Quite a severe case of impostersyndrome when it comes to that
episode I really.
I feel energized whenever I'mtalking about all things, women
(10:31):
and money women, money andfinancial empowerment and the
financial freedom that it bringsand how important it is to have
a longterm view of that sort ofstuff for yourself and your
financial independence.
As that's something that I'mreally passionate about.
It was great to get aconversation started on that
last week.
Miranda to do have any ones thatyou loved?
Miranda (10:50):
I am so grateful that you took on the challenge of
episode 11.
I love your passion aroundfinance and women.
I also think you've just donesome incredible work and live
some big financial experiencestonight.
So back to that small way and orbig win I think we all benefit
from learning a little bit fromyou and celebrating that in that
process.
For me the episode I pointeveryone to and perhaps the most
important concept is making surethat women are not getting in
(11:12):
their own way in episode two andalso understanding what else is
holding them back it's not allus, there is definitely some
things happening there withsociety that we need to just, be
aware of.
We covered a lot of topics andwe just did them quite high
level.
I've looked forward to reallydigging into that in more
detail.
I was talking to a workcolleague recently, and we
didn't deep dive into this toomuch in episode two, but that
(11:33):
awareness of what career gaps dothat whole wife drought
phenomenon of Annabel's crabsbook is just so many women are
making those decisions withoutreally thinking of the long-term
impact.
I do find that quite scary.
And it does keep falling back onthe women's careers regardless
of their position, really to bethe one that supports the child
when they're sick, the familymember, when they need to take
(11:54):
care of.
That their work takes a hit whenthings get a little bit too hard
to balance at home.
Claire, we briefly spoke lastweek about the risk that being
to present as a mom in theworkforce, has potentially
impacted career progressionprobably an area where we will
definitely talk more andhopefully find some solutions
together, but it's a really bigaudacious challenge.
We can definitely change some ofthe things that we're doing to
hold ourselves back, before wedecided to take a career break,
(12:16):
think about the long termimpacts on your super on your
career progression on yourincome, obviously working part
time, not just today, but in 20years time.
If divorce does happen, whatdoes that mean for the balance
and where you sit?
Yeah, I think that one's reallystuck with me.
It's something that I'm hearingfrom colleagues and I'm saying
do some thinking and really lookinto it.
And certainly this colleague Iwas talking about was completely
(12:39):
shocked and had never reallygiven any of that.
A pause for five years doesn'tfeel like a bad thing at the
time.
Claire (12:44):
you're right.
There's so many.
And I think there's, there is somuch to look at that.
I think I, as I think about it,I think that episode and also
about having, Like being a bitclear on your vision.
You don't have to have it allperfect.
But understanding that you mightbe doing a lot of spoke about it
a few times.
Like they, yes.
But reasons for the spike, I'veput so many years into this
(13:07):
particular career or yes, but Ireally need to be there for my
kids because I feel like societyexpects that from me or yes, but
I think we do a lot more of thatthan we probably think we're
doing.
And some of the time I've, someof the mentoring conversations
I've had.
Often, if I step away from itthink about the key message, the
(13:27):
key messages you just need toget out of your own way, this
next dream, big everyone is ascapable as everyone else.
And so there's, yeah, there's alot in that.
So I agree.
We wanted to raise it, but wedidn't want to spend all season
talking about that stuff.
But I think there's definitely alot more to unpack because we
really went through those topicsfor me when we spoke about that
(13:50):
in episode two, but it's being,and I think it's big too after
COVID.
I think there's a lot of that.
There's a lot of evidence therethat shows that women have had
to take a step back again.
So it made all this progress.
And then because of thehomeschooling and of the
implications that have happenedthrough COVID, it's it's a bit
of a, two steps forward, onestep back kind of scenario that
was happening as well.
(14:10):
So it gets even more importantto be talking about some of that
stuff.
Impacting burnout levels and allsorts of crazy stuff.
So yeah.
Good point.
It was a very important.
Miranda (14:19):
Absolutely now I think the most enjoyable episode and
the one that had a lot of funwith definitely the episode
seven on this decision makingI've absolutely devoured all of
any Duke's work.
then that book review of MRIs,zags, I she's just a, such a fun
character.
So I felt like that was a lot offun to discuss and, some great
outtakes in terms ofdecision-making, which also
(14:41):
helps with that episode too of.
Making sure you, you've got alot of great decision-making
tools and then winging it forthe rest and deep diving in the
yes.
and.
Not the yes.
but.
So you know, on that, are thereany big outtakes that have stuck
with you?
Maybe on this or just anothercontent, you know what stuck
with you through this?
Claire (14:58):
Yeah I think I've really enjoyed our conversations.
It's really challenged me aroundthe need have a vision and dream
big and have audacious goals.
And it doesn't matter if younever get there, but if you
don't have.
Then you're not stretchingyourself to get out of your own
way and think about all of thatsort of stuff.
Having an SFD of my, why thatreally has stuck with me because
(15:20):
I think it does help you.
Decide what part of thefinancial finessing stuff you
want to work on and what risksyou want to take and what are
you prepared to look at in termsof what career transitions or
moves you want to make?
Again?
Doing that as much.
I think we will wonder whetherit's worth right to do it or not
is definitely something hashelped to form some of those
(15:41):
initial thinking.
Also the concepts of the onething that review they have
consistently stuck with me.
So whenever I started to feeloverwhelmed and anxious,
Speeding and out of plates atany given time.
I do stop and check myself toask what is the one thing I can
do right now to make everythingeasier or unnecessary?
What's the one thing that if Ido that tomorrow, some of that
(16:04):
stress will go away and I won'tfeel so bad about stuff.
And so I've used that quite alot actually.
So I found that's really stuckwith me.
Miranda (16:11):
I love it.
For me, It's been around howhard habits are to form and
maintain.
So I actually came into the 2021with some reasonable habits
around my 60 minutes, 5:00 AM.
And the way that the yearprogressed and what was going
on, it was very much an up anddown on actually delivering on
that habit.
I was listening to the gentlemanthat wrote atomic habits the
(16:31):
other day.
he was really just saying habit.
Forming is a lifetime process,as much as we want it to be
something that happens in 21 or66 days if you stop doing that
certain habit that you've got toget back on that horse and keep
going again.
And it's not.
Always just easy, but thebenefits of having those habits
and having that default are justso strong and I really want to
(16:51):
be a more habitual person goingforward.
There's lots and lots of studiesaround the benefits from even
just taking off that mentalload, taking out that decision,
making that you're just going todo those things.
It's not a question.
It's not something that you needto make a decision on.
It's ingrained in your.
day so continue to work.
So it piece of work for me, it'slike a continual pace of
(17:13):
progress.
The other thing too, that isthat how challenging it is to
live.
The one thing, so habit formingand then the one thing and you
think, yep.
I've got my one thing.
I know what I'm doing and Idon't know about you, but I just
find myself consistently gettingderailed.
Something.
Aspire and we'll focus on beingbetter at, I think going forward
(17:33):
is just that one thing.
What's the most important thing.
How do I not get lost in thetidal wave of busy?
Claire (17:39):
So an acceptance of doing a little reset.
Not to be hard on ourselves ifwe fall off the wagon, like
that's hard to, I think we'rejust always so having SL so
yeah.
Thinking about our listeners andour tribe that we're trying to
create here and what we'retrying to support?
What if you had one wish forwomen going into 20, 22, what
would that be
Miranda (18:00):
for me?
one wish I feel very much aboutknowing your own power.
I think so often women givethem.
For women, we give our poweraway to our employer.
We sit back and wait formanagers to tell us where, ready
for the next step or whatever.
Potentially, we're hearing abouthow many women are giving away
them.
How if financial power what'sholding you back, there's so
(18:20):
many.
Things that you can be doing tocollectively hold onto your
empower and deliver that.
And we get an, the way in thatspace.
So if I've only got one wish andobviously I'd 20, but if I've
only got one way, sh I thinkit's for me to know your own
power
Claire (18:33):
I like the fact that you said that you wanted 20, I'm not
going to give you 20.
Maybe you can have a couplemore, but not in this episode,
we don't have time.
My one wish is for women to stopliving their lives on other
people's terms and to be braverabout listening to their gut and
taking action on their gutfeelings.
And also to be consciously awareof when we might be brushing
(18:55):
those gut feelings aside andrationalizing it with a yes, but
because we've got all thatbaggage that comes along with
the unconscious biases.
We tend to just brush aside someof those feelings of what will
we know.
We should be doing somethingabout it, for 2022.
Do something about it, but takeaction, take some smart risks,
texts, and actions to cultivateyour career.
(19:15):
Whatever that means to you, takesome actions on your finances.
Can't stress that enough aboutthe long-term implications of
all of that.
Put our fears aside and to makethe changes that we know we
bravely need to make, to set usonto a path for how we've
defined success for ourselves onour own terms.
Miranda (19:33):
I like both of our answers were so big picture
encompass.
A lot of topics are coveredunderneath it so we can use our
wishes very well.
If we ever run into a, any Ijust want to talk quickly about
something and we haven't been ona fit into an episode as yet.
And there's actually a couple ofpoints here.
That's just wanted to highlight.
And one of them was aninteresting fact that women say
20,000 words a day and men say7,000.
(19:56):
And the thinking in this bookwas that we maybe talk
ourselves.
Promotions, there is so much inthe social contract of being
female versus being male that wecan get in our own way, in that
way as well.
So I thought that was just alittle fun fact.
I don't think I've spoken lessbecause of it, but, I'm inspired
to think about it at least.
We use less words, moresuccinct, and that link we, you
(20:22):
spoke last week about justcommunicating to boards
differently, to communicatingwith friends and, succinctness
is valued so highly in thatgame.
So can absolutely see where itcan play to their strengths.
And then I think coming into theholiday period we've spoken, I
think about work-life balancearound boundaries or but we
haven't spoken, I think,directly to work-life balance.
And I do feel that there's likethis accumulation of concepts,
(20:44):
that can help support us.
I thought it was just a nice oneto tap into and just think
about, how are we going in intothe holiday season?
How are we setting ourselves up?
Because so often we go into theholiday.
Racing, we're still gonna to doless pages long.
And maybe it's taking us acouple of days to get into the
groove of holiday.
You've got a couple of extradays and then you're back to
(21:06):
work and you feel maybe morefatigued than even when you went
into work.
And we all think there's enoughstudies around there.
I think you have an awareness ofhow important holidays are to
avoid burnout.
And sometimes, the Christmasholidays can be really tough
because there is just sorry,many events and so very much
socializing.
So I think that balance andBeing comfortable with saying
no.
And, just taking on the amountsthat you can chew particularly
(21:28):
as you mentioned, Clara has gonefrom zero to a hundred to a
thousand.
It doesn't need to all be hustleall the time.
So you know, some of the littlethings I did when I took a short
break earlier in the year wasactually deleted my mail app
from my friend.
Now that might not be big for alot of people.
You may have already lent.
Don't look at your emails whenyou're on holidays.
But I have to consciouslytalking mail into the search on
my phone.
(21:48):
I can't access an app to accessthe mail and it makes such a big
difference for me, knowing thatI'm consciously checking this
versus just this automatic kindof push on the phone button,
almost like a Facebook kind ofpush or up Instagram, Bush,
which is also really bad.
I think I need to delete thosefrom my phone as well.
The other one is just empoweringthe team.
So if you're called with an SOScall, it's not taking any
(22:11):
actions from the call, butempowering the team and then
maybe doing a quick meditationor kind of getting yourself back
into holiday mode for the quickwalk or something.
So you're not trying to solvethat issue because that mental
load can really take it on Justlooking at some great tips to
ensure that we can maximize ourdowntime.
Huffington post had an article2019 by Rachel Moss around how
(22:34):
to switch off on the holidays.
I'll put these tips in the shownotes and the link because it
links got some really greatcontent around each of these
tips.
But for the speed of thispodcast, I want us to think
about things like.
Setting the foundations beforeyou leave.
And Michelle Giddings isactually also had some great
stuff around this, which ismaking sure that leading up to
the holiday you're reallyprioritizing what work you take
(22:56):
on and not setting unrealisticdeadlines.
So you are taking on just theright amount of work that you
can achieve in that time orpushing it out to when you're
back.
And therefore you're not tryingto do a full-page of to-do lists
as you go into your holidaysavoiding work communications
while you're away, if at allpossible.
So the email tip would probablyhelp that one out and also the
phone calls only SOS.
(23:16):
There was a good piece in thereabout if you continue to set the
boundaries for your team, thatyou are available, that you are
checking that they're going toaccept or expect a response from
me.
Really being clear that youdon't want to set those
boundaries for.
Make a plan for holiday admin.
So make sure that you can be offtick as much as possible by
making a plan to take on thatholiday admin in advance or some
(23:38):
good planning around that ditchthe tech, wherever possible, ask
yourself why you can't relax.
So a lot of people change theirsleep patterns while on
holidays.
So there's some greatrecommendations around
maintaining sleep patterns.
Maybe not trying to.
Partying until one, two o'clockevery night, just a couple of
nights, but your holidays andreally being kind to yourself
and not taking on lots of gogiving yourself downtime during
(23:59):
your holiday period.
So some really good tips as wego into the new year, some great
topics or episodes that you'vebeen burning to, to discuss.
We haven't been able to fit intothe last week.
Claire (24:11):
Yeah, totally on reflection.
I think we've probably coveredso much that I would have to say
no, probably I would've lovedto, for us to come more, but
then we've just got to think,yeah, it's, we're on a marathon
here.
We can do all of that in 2022.
It doesn't all have to be donelike immediately.
So probably not.
I think one thing that I wasthinking of though, because I
(24:34):
guess I'm thinking about it formyself is, the value of
considering a business careercoach and also for those who the
concept of a financial coach aswell.
So that's not a financialadvisor.
And then it's not when you'regetting into financial dire
straits, and you need financialcounseling, there's a concept
that sort of really taking, holdof getting a financial coach to
(24:54):
help you with some of that.
Sitting around your long-termlike your, what your long-term
financial goals, what you wantfor your life and stuff like
that.
So either a business coach or afinancial coach I think is
something that is definitely agood thing to think about to
help.
But with some of that stuff, yousaid Miranda, like when we've
got so much.
How do we get someone to bounceoff, to bounce ideas off about
(25:17):
what do we need to do?
What is our next best move?
What are we planning on doing?
So I think that's probablysomething that I wouldn't mind
bringing to the table andsomeone from that, I'm quite
happy that we've distilled a lotof content in 2021.
I'm looking forward to breakingthem out a bit in our next
year's podcast.
Yeah, that's the lead for me onthat one.
Miranda (25:38):
I've never had a financial coach.
So I can't wait to hear moreabout that in future episodes.
I think as far as a businesscoach, absolutely.
I have just been so great.
A friend of mine introduced meto a business coach way back
when I was first given aleadership role.
And I think that, the reality ofleadership is that many people
go from being very tactical anddoing into a leadership role
(26:00):
without training.
And I've got this beautifulbusiness coach has helped me
through that.
Give me some great tips and somegreat guides in, back in 20, 20
13, 20 14.
And then, my last session withher.
And I check in every quarterwhen it's needed sometimes less.
It really just depends.
But having that person that sortof understands what your journey
(26:21):
is a little bit and can go withyou on that and pick up where
you were.
Really doesn't is such a greatasset.
And my last session, I was armedwith some of the great work that
we've done through thesepodcasts.
I had to clarity around my, whyI had my decision tree with
those supported breakoutbranches.
I could clearly articulate myfears and the magic just came in
(26:41):
this coach catching what I wasputting down and helping me to
clearly define what it was Ineeded.
We worked together on an actionplan to get to where I wanted to
be and some breadcrumbs to stopfinding my path whips.
Yeah, I totally agree, Claire.
Great.
Great recommendation.
So CLIA, so much stuff we'vecovered already.
I thought this was going to be areally quick, easy episode.
Do you have any cool goalsyou're excited about for 2022.
Claire (27:04):
Yes.
So I think inspired by him.
Isaac's you mentioned her and wedid the her winging at Booker.
I think one of the things thatreally resonated for me was how
much fun the MRIs.
Has or talks about having andall that sort of stuff.
And so I, my goal is definitelyto have more fun in 2022 for me,
(27:24):
2020.
And I think for a lot of people,20, 20 and 2021 was mostly about
surviving rather than thriving.
I learned a lot about myselfduring that period of time, but
it was definitely more towardsthis surviving spectrum of the
scale.
And so I want to hear you to 20to 22 with a much more
light-headed mindset at the backof everything I do.
Now, that's not to say that Idon't have people.
(27:46):
I get data's goals that I wantto set, but I just want to take
it out myself a little bit lessseriously, to be honest.
So I think I've been way toohard on myself.
These last two years, trying toput way too much pressure on
myself to be all things to allpeople.
And I haven't stopped torecognize and celebrate the good
things about myself anywherenear enough.
And so I want to do much more ofthat.
(28:08):
I think related to having morefun.
And, because I have to bring itup because it's so critical to
everything that I believe is Ireally want to work hard on my
money goals and my long-termsaving goals because for me,
financial freedom and financialindependence over the long-term
is such a critical foundationfor living a life designed by me
on my own terms.
And so I just want to make sure.
(28:28):
It's it's taught us anything.
It's we absolutely have no ideawhat's going to happen tomorrow.
What's going to happen nextyear.
What's going to happen 10 yearsfrom now.
And so having financial S havingsome plans around the financial
security that you can do thatfor yourself, I think is really
critical.
So I want to do a little bit ofthat.
And I really still want tocontinue with my journey of
learning.
(28:48):
I always want to do that everyyear, but I think learning about
who I am at my core and really.
Delving into some of that stuffthat I, that he then self-aware
of what he's holding me back,what, one of the stories that
I'm telling myself and how thatimpacts how I show up for myself
personally, and at work and formy friends and family and in the
(29:09):
local communities.
And so I've done a lot of workon myself this year and it's
been rather uncomfortable to saythe least, but it's, it's been
really worthwhile.
And so we continue to doubledown on that next year.
Miranda (29:20):
Cool goals there, Claire, very insightful.
And I love this idea of doublingdown on journey of you at your
core.
And I do think that once youarticulate that for yourself,
it's it changes how you show upfor people.
It changes how you articulatewhat you need by all.
Mantra of mindset should attractwhat you need to you.
Because you clear on it, you cantell people what you need and
(29:42):
communication is just so key inthat, getting to where we need
to be.
So for my goals are elevatingout, delivering on my mission
statement, shedding an episodefor.
To just value and leave that Yevery day.
So trying to hold for the valueon my one thing, focus on my
important work just does not getlost.
I think that gets really trickywhen there's a lot of demands on
(30:02):
you at one time.
And you're just feeling reallysunk, just putting my own oxygen
mask on first and trying to findways to empower people, to deal
with their own urgent, not takeit on.
It's just going to be soimportant to achieving that for
me.
And to be fair around myboundaries, I think bringing
that laughter and fun into myevery day.
And that's just always been whoI am.
And I think the last couple ofmonths have really.
(30:24):
Seeing that depleted.
So it's important to bring andthe energy and the excitement
and the optimism
Claire (30:31):
There's a really good connection there too, because
you're talking about, so youwanted to bring laughter and fun
back into your every day as likeone of the goals, but that I
think being firmer around you abit like being really firm
around your boundaries gettingyour own oxygen mask on they're
really interconnected.
In order to have fun andlaughter and relax more in your
day, then you really do have tohold strong on those boundaries.
(30:53):
And also looking after yourselffirst, before you can look after
others.
Miranda (30:57):
Thank you.
I think I'm going to print it upon a wall or something just to
make sure I remember in thosebusy times I think a big part of
this for me is diving into somesummer reading and taking a
really nice pause.
So a couple of summer writingbooks, and I'd love to hear what
your plans are as we round outthis episode and hopefully leave
our listeners with a bit of fun.
The dictionary of lost words isa book that I started back in
(31:21):
June and I've put it on hold.
I've been very disciplined notto go back to it.
I've got it in the, up to whereshe finishes boarding school and
she's gone to work on thedictionary so I'm looking
forward to finishing that oneand likewise, the silent
patient.
So bring on.
My beautiful friends Stephactually let me a book back in
2019.
After she had actually venturedoff on holidays with us and my
(31:41):
six month old baby, she left mea book, Daisy Jones and the six,
which I devoured it's fun.
I did notice that there is abook touted as the new daisy
Jones called Malibu Rising.
I read that this year.
Claire (31:52):
it was a bit of fun actually, quite
Miranda (31:53):
fun.
A bit of popcorn.
That's what I'm looking for.
Then I guess there's just someother thriller books.
One is a book called the herdwhich is Andrea Bartz.
It's a co-working space that'screated by women for women the
founder of this community goesmissing so I'd be interested to
read that one.
Another one which has, comesreally highly recommended as
coping nothing, man, byCatherine Ryan, so some fun
holiday writes.
(32:13):
What about you?
Claire (32:14):
I do a lot of reading.
So the last couple of years,I've had a KPI on myself to read
40 books each year.
I'm almost there for this year.
Matt books.
But when you're making me thinkabout reading for the summer, I
haven't even thought about it tobe honest.
I had a quick look, I was in.
Yesterday in the city.
I will check out.
Apple's never fall, by Liane,Moriarty, I've never read any of
(32:35):
her books, but I really didenjoy the TV adaptations, nine
perfect strangers and being alittle off.
The synopsis did sound prettypopcorny and lovely and
something that I could get into.
So I'm keen to try that one.
A couple of others on my to readlist is Clara and the sun, which
I think has a bit more kind ofheavy going, intellectual kind
of mindful reading there.
(32:57):
And one called love and virtue,which I think the girls chats in
looks three recommended.
I think Annabel Crabb gave thata ride review.
So I might check that out, butthe, her I'm going to check out
some of yours, I think too.
So now I've got to listen.
I'm going to have to distill andwork out which ones are going to
range.
And I think I'll also my bestmate walked for me.
Hello.
(33:17):
10 books, three book which isgreat.
It looks like it's a really funbook to read.
It's not really a standard book.
So I think I'm going to givethat a go cause I reckon that be
a bit of fundraising thisholiday time
Miranda (33:28):
as well.
Oh, fun.
All right.
That brings us to the end ofthis episode before we actually
dial out though.
I think we need to leave ourlisteners with an inspirational
thought or quart.
So for me, I have.
Gone quiet esoteric, so I feellike knowledge paired with
insight and a great plan thatyou're taking action on daily
will get you from where you areto where you want to be.
(33:48):
Really important knowledge,insight planning action.
What about you, Claire?
Did you a.
Claire (33:53):
I thought that I would bring up a couple of our own
bits of thought leadership fromour Instagram posts.
Since I went back and had aquick look at ones where we got
lots of likes.
Was every woman, needs a littlesupport.
Let's build each other up andprosper together.
I think has been a criticalelement to me, still standing at
(34:13):
the end of 2021 is the women inmy life that have supported me
through this time.
And I've hopefully supportedthem.
I will live.
I have had that.
I believe I supported them too.
So when that popped up and Inoticed that I thought, yeah,
that's the one.
Everyone we know needs a littlesupport.
Let's build each other up andprosper together.
Thinking for 2022,
Miranda (34:34):
I think love it.
All right.
That brings us to the end ofepisode 12.
We cannot thank you enoughlisteners for joining us on this
journey.
We really do just value you somuch.
I hope that we've given you abit of summer reading and the
lightness and some great tipsfor switching off in this
episode.
We are so grateful for yoursupport.
We would love if you could likeor share this podcast with a
(34:55):
friend who needs some greatinsights and some superpowers
for 2022.
So please feel, please we'd loveyou to share it, and hopefully
you can help out a friend andthen a fellow human doing side.
We want to wish all of ourlisteners, a safe and Merry
holiday season.
Look out for January four.
Be ready with a clear plan totackle the year ahead.
(35:15):
And remember your resolutionsand not limited to a timeframe.
Anytime resolutions can becreated any time they define
your why and support you inachieving success on your own
terms, sign up to our email listand we'll start to cultivate
that one and a huge, thank you,Claire.
It's been a great episode andit's been a great year.
I am so grateful for you.
Claire (35:35):
Okay.
Miranda (35:35):
we'll put all of the links in the episode nights,
please visit our Insta post formore inspiration, please visit
our Insta place for moreinspiration.
Emailus@elevatewithgraceatgmail.com.
Check out our website, elevatewith grace.
Dot com.edu.
There is going to be some greatblogs and such over the summer.
Claire (35:52):
Thank you so much for that.
That was a lovely wrap up.
So I went to anymore, exceptthank you so much to, you've
been amazing support and I'veloved everything we're doing and
I can't wait to keep going withthis in 2022 and beyond.
Miranda (36:05):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank
Claire (36:06):
you.
Bye.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
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