America's Halftime

Hey guys!!! John's back, and the over reactions are here in the football discussion and the hip hop discussions.  Of course the fellas talk about the superbowl halftime controversy and why Kendrick Lamar being picked over Lil Wayne isn't as big of a surprise as the internet would make you think.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah the pod got the pot tribal chief, if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
And back for the first time in a long time,
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we're back outside, not really, we we we've been inside.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
What's going on buddy, working working, You know what, that's
my answer, working. You got some working in football's work secrets.
You want to tell us you got a new Gray.
I just noticed it.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's like it's called it's called adult Town.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
It's like but it's like it's like shinier than like
any other Gray.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
His powers is stronger.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, you got like a green Ranger Gray going on.
This one's like you don't notice me.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Man, It's called stressing, working man. It would do it
to you. What you stressing about Michigan or the Lions.
I'm not stressing about the Lions. They just had a
I call it a hiccup game.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You called a hiccup game. Okay, it's a hiccup game.
I think we'll be okay. I think it was a
hiccup game. I just thought Stafford was dealing. And I
don't know what it is about Aaron Glenn, but he
refuses to disguise a coverage.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I also think it was in Detroit too, so Stafford
just like I'm gonna remind these niggas, I'm gonna remind
and his thing. Why when they got the ball back
in the fourth quarter, I think this score was they
were down a touchdown, and I was like, I've seen this,
seen so many times before, Like he's gonna score.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I knew he's gonna score.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I knew it, seen this movie before, seen this movie before.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
But yeah, I'm I don't want to say I'm nervous
about him, because, like I looked at our schedule, we
don't face them quarterback that good for a while.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
So who or Baker?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Baker's been playing well?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Isn't it weird? We've been playing well?

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, been playing burden and Cleveland should have capt him.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Isn't it the most Cleveland thing that ever happened? You
get sick of Baker, you want to get him out
of here. You've paid to Sean the biggest contract ever
at the time, and trade away your whole future and picks,
and then Baker becomes a better quarterback. And then Houston
down there and using all those picks to become AFC

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contender immediately, I think, uh, I think Cleveland thing.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Ever. I think well, before Baker left, he had the
Browns in the.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Him to the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
They the af There was an AFC Conference championship game
against the Chiefs. Remember it came out to a touchdown
and Baker threw an interception. Chiefs went to the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think that I think that might have been a
divisional game.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I swear that was the conference game.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I think that was the division Nah, my Cleveland friends
would have been way.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
More crazy, way more crazy.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
I'm about I'm about to see I swear I was.
I hope you're right it was a divisional game. Yeah, okay,
but he played well that game. He almost won that game.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
No, he did.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Baker has been playing good. Yeah, yeah, Bakery.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
But yeah, like but again he's not Stafford. I'll give that,
and like, you know what I'm saying, like, we don't
face another quarterback that good for a while.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'm just looking at their schedule. And we had the
Seahawks again. Of course we do.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Of course we do.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
We got them in two weeks. Of course we fucking
because why not. It's not like we don't play them every.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Season for some reason, we haven't beat them yet. Every
game has come close. But I can't stand the Seahawks
so fucking sick of ARII it's like a it's like
a like almost like a hidden rivalry or like, well,
not a hidden rivalry, but.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's a robbery to us.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, What's how you put that?

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Uh, like like that's your op, but nobody knows that's
your op.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
We got animosity, Yeah we do. They might not even
know we don't fuck with them, but we don't. We
don't funk with them.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
You can't stand to see all. I feel like the
Rams are hitting that too, Like the Rams. Well, I
think it's because I think it's because Stafford's there. So
it's just like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I mean, I tell you what. It feels good that
you know we beat him the last two times.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
I'll tell you that that is true. That is true.
But I think Stafford may try to get one on us,
and I hope it's not. In the playoffs the first
time in the playoffs, first.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Round, he came back. He beat the ship out of us. Yeah,
but playoffs.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
And isn't it crazy that we started off the season
with the two teams with beating the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
The Bucks?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Did we Yeah, we beat them?

Speaker 5 (05:48):
We did because I was, hold on, you're right, because
I was in Detroit during that game and I was
there was old head sitting next to me, and I
was like, before the game started, I was like, I
do remember this part. I was like, yo, man, Mike
Evans about to cook Suddon. But because it was a
game after he played the Cowboys, I was like something
about to get cooked by Mike Evans.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
You gotta go, you gotta reverse. We we lost that
game to the what we won that game?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Cowboys? The first game in the wildcard.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Round was against the Rams, or then it was the
book because it was the thing of matt Stafford is
still gonna be the first Lions quarterback to win a
playoff game in ford Field.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
He came back, you just won't do it with the Lions,
and the.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Young motherfuckers disrespected Kelly. No, she's never coming back to Detroit.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Cool, It's fine.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's the man's wife.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Look, we like Matthew, Like we tolerated Kelly.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
We don't have to tolerate her anymore.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
But then after that, it was like, Yo, Baker's kind
of figuring it out down there with the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
But the Lions team kind of does look like a
buzz saw right now.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
And Mike Evans was cooking. So Mike Evan was cooking sudden,
and then uh, Pooka was cooking sudden because what you're
gonna call your garden?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
No, come didn't play, did he last year? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:14):
So yeah, Pooka was cooking sudden, I was right. So yeah,
we did play the Bucks last year.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, No, Baker played well.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
In that game too, he did, he did, and it
came down to that another late interception. Yeah, you know,
but you know it's crazy, like you're just talking about
our corners, Like our corners were tackling in that Monday
night football game, but like they weren't getting like a
lot of yak. So I was like, man, because you
imagine we had last year's corners. He lost that game

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about seventeen. We lost that game because Stafford was out
there dealing. He was figuring out our coverages pretty quickly,
and he knew where the ball needed to go and
when them niggas I was missing tackles last year we
lost that.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah. So you know, so you said, I saw that
text you to.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Me about us going uh to Super Bowl Because Christian
McCaffrey's out.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
They're about to put him on I R you think
so long one more week?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's the rumor because he has the same injury like
KD had before KD popped his achilles and like and
there's no way like to heal that you just you
just got arrested. And I mean the way KD popped
is I mean, that was just happenstance. But basketball's on

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a collision sport. Christian McCaffrey's making cuts and at the
end of every place collide with somebody.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
So I mean.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Dominated without him though they did, they still.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
They still got a they they still got a deep
ass team.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
But I mean, who who did they beat? Wasn't it
the Jets?

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yes, the Jests are gonna make the playoffs this year.
The Jets win ten eleven games.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
This year, just don't look like they no more.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets win that division
or their division.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
No, Miami went in that division Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
You think Buffalo went over to Jets. Yeah, I think
Jess has a better Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Here's the thing that defense ain't what has been the
past two years. And everybody's like Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers ain't been good in like four years.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, he was hurt last year, so we can't.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Okay, But then the last two years in Green Bay
weren't good. They weren't he went m v P last
year in Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
The last two years when he was in Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I don't think he don't think he went last year
in the Green Bay, but not last year. I'm talking
about the year before that. Yes, did he want m
v P he won m v P. I'm gonna that's
the year he won m v P.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Well, hold on, you can't say wouldn' that good because
remember how he kept talking about how he wanted to
have a home game in Green Bay, like and like
a home playoff game.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, and they lost to the I can't remember. Yeah,
so he won.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Oh so he won MVP in twenty twenty one, so
he was in He's been to Jets now for two years. Yeah,
so the last two years he's in Green Bay. He
won MVP in twenty twenty one. Okay, so Aaron Rodgers
had been good in three years? Three years? Okay, yeah, yeah,
three years.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
But that's my point. Like his last season in Green Bay,
he looked got awful, he was hurt. Remember, now, his
last season in Green Bay wasn't oh it.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Last season in Green Bay. I'm sorry, Yeah, I think
I need some more coffee. I'm illusion, yes, yes, right.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And then he gets to the Jets and you're like,
all right, I mean, we know last season you were
awful and maybe he fell off a cliff, but maybe
you didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
And then he pops with Achilles.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Well that flag us Karen was heavy, okay, he was
carrying the hearts and the love of the American tourist.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
He went from ass to hurt to.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
We don't know what he is.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
This year he looked okay. In that game.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
He looked okay.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Again. I still give it to Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I don't Buffalo finally figured out, Hey, stop letting Josh
Allen throw the ball thirty times a game because he
gonna try to throw the game away.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Hold on, hold on, it's hard to grade him against
the Dolphins when he beaches his offhense for the past,
it's like a record, right, like past like five times
or something like that. Six times. Yeah, so I want so.
But Buffalo lost to uh Dan news in the first
week or he didn't win the first week.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
I was drunk, but anyways, No, Yeah, I'm putting on
in the Jets. I think Jets went in that division.
I think we're in agreement with the Patriots. Have no
chance right, who, Okay, So see the Jets of Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I don't know, man, you might want to listen to
more Greenee, do you think the Patriots are going to No?
He just stressed out about the Jets. I wasn't just
enough to where like I wouldn't put money with the Jets.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
I think just gonna win the division. But they haven't
looked like world beaters. But I don't think Buffalos look
like world beaters either.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I think Buffalo can do just enough to beat that
Jets team twice and then twice New England twice, and
then Lord knows in Miami at this point.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
You know what a funny thing was you talking about
the Bears? But they won that game.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
I know he's a man watching his Bears game. We
definitely got the division locked up. I mean I still
believe that. I still believe that my man threw for
like ninety five yards. He's like fourteen or twenty five
for ninety five yards, and he still won the game.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's a good defense. That's a real good defense. And hey,
special teams tell you what.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Jordan love is hurt?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Right, Yeah, Jordan loves hurt.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Look it does. He's so excited, right.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Now, Minnesota's Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
You need the Lions of super Bowl bus or somebody
in general. I'm not talking about.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You, do I think in that like in the room, like.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Yeah, yeah, well I guess because like, for instance, like
when we look at the Chiefs, we always say super
Bowl bus. Those guys or the Ravens are at that
pinnacle now where they're super Bowl bus, right, So like
when you look at the Lions, you need they hit
that tier yet or is it just like conference championship.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's super bowler bus, especially because you can't afford this
team for too much longer.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Mmm, Like once Gibbs and.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Jamo are like up for extensions and then you gotta
start making decisions on like you know, the depth of
your aiden and the depth of your defense. You got
like you have to win right now within the next
two years because once you gotta make a decision on
jamo Aiden and who else?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Did I say.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Gamo Aiden and uh Jamiir Jamiir?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
That that deplete the death of this team a lot.
And I mean they're already been at wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
That linebacker too.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
So yeah, it's super Bowl and bus because you got
so close last year and your window with like a
few of your core guys on rookie deals is closing
so they got they gotta go this year.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
You need it buried in the Eagles. Yeah, Eagles look
good with.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
I mean they look good with the if only had
three touchdowns, it was like a halftime.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
No yeah, no, listen, listen. I mean here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think, like we're comparable at most positions except for
old line. I think we have a better old line
since Jason Kelsey retired. With that, I agree with that,
But like if it came to down to us playing
the Eagles and the playoffs, it would just depend on
who who got the better push on the running game
because you gotta keep an offense off the field because

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with the way ball teams play, play action gonna be open.
And Devonte Smith is a motherfucker the same way.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, se youee what I'm saying, Like they look like
mirror images of.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
A tet is who's her tight end? He can just
passes two? Is it got her?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Dallas got her?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's not the tight end?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
He was on Indianapolis?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I know they got a tight end.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's pretty good, But like, but they look like mirror
images of each other so that you look at that
and you're like, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Or Dada's got her. Yeah he's he's an Eagle.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, So I mean it just depends on who's who
can keep their offense on the field to keep the
other teams offense off the field?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Do you won't worry about the Eagles? Are the Niners?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Eagles?

Speaker 4 (15:57):
You think the Eagles is better than the Niners?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
No, just I think it's styles make fights.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Then oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
And we had the Niners that the Rice we did
and a comedy of errors if you will.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Three three errors two by the same guy.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah. See, it's gonna stick out on your head for
the rest of your life.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
No, it does.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I remember the plays as like they were yesterday.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
We had a comedy of errors, we had a terrible
we had the work secondary I think in NFL history,
and we didn't have a kicker. We have a better secondary.
Tearn Arnold needs to get coached out of being so physical.
Somebody got tell him, like, Yo, you're not down to
Alabama playing future enterprise renta car employees. They're not gonna

(16:43):
let you get away with all of that hand checking
fifty yards down the field. But anyways, we got better corners.
We got a dog at kicker, We got a dog.
And again they've gotten older, they they I think Trent
Williams is still holding out. Christian McCaffery is hurt like

(17:07):
and again we had them dead the Rice last year
dead the.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Right you getting?

Speaker 5 (17:10):
You're getting excited about the Lions? Uh just never, just
like never ceased to amaze me.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
See.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Had you listen to my ESPN radio hit out there
Thursday talking about Nil They asked me about the Lions too,
and I said, honestly, all this attention is making me nervous.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
You don't see what this nigga doing radio now, y'all
hear this kind of like a big deal.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
You know sports you know, Sports Illustrated picked us to
win the Super Bowl, right, Oh my.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
God, we're not winning Super Bowl, brokay? I mean I
like the Lions too, But you think we beat that
Chiefs team. They got better this year. That was last year.
I said, this year, they're a different team this year.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Okay, listen, I saw the way your girls Taylor got
Travis looking and he lost.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
All his superpowers. I mean he looks like a Trump's
body cam now.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Too, far.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Did you see that contract that came out about Kelsey
and Taylor. No, supposedly they're supposed to They signed a
contract's supposed to break up later this month, and then
a PR firm came out and uh denied it. Come on,
you know, Travis like like that cocoa butter. You know
he liked that chocolate milk.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
And I saw how he moved prior.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, so you think he liked Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I don't know. Love works mysterious.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
I saw a tweet that had me dying.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
It said, uh, girls that like Taylor Swift for girls
who give head with teeth.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
I thought that sh it was funny. But Taylor sw
like she has a crowd that like they just dorky
as white girls.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
And you, I mean, okay, this is well, like Taylor Swift,
she writes her own music. So that's a talent within
herself right, because a lot of people in the industry
they don't write their own music. She writes all music,
and she's just talented, Like she can play the guitar,
she knows caydence and stuff like that. Like she's just talented. Bro,

(19:18):
you can't knock it. She's not talented.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I didn't say anything.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
You looking at me like she's not talented.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
You guys just wanting to get my joke off. I didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
I didn't say Taylor, she's talented.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
She's filled arenas everywhere, right, Economic Impact Report.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, look she she endures Kamala right.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know it's funny when I when she did that,
I text my mom and I said, this is big,
and my mom was like, a lot of her fans
are like young girls who can't even vote.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I'm like, mother, No, they're not, No, they're not.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Millennials are damn there in their forties and like gen
Z is in their late twenties now.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
They can vote, like they can vote, us can vote.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Like, and I'm like, my, I know you're not. You're
not hip to nothing no more. But Kayler Swiff is
my age.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
She ain't.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
She ain't got a lot of fans that are like
really young. She she's almost she's almost in a legacy category.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Like she don't need to make new music no more.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
And she really don't, which is probably why she's like
re recording on her old ship as she went the
money from.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, She's like, nah.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I don't need to make new ship, which I don't
blame her unless it's you know, unless it's Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Breakup happens and we get an album.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, and we get an album. Speaking of albums and
music and music.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
About here we go, Here we Go Shave from football
to music.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Future Guy mixtape coming out before.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
We talk about the future. Did you listen to the
doche album?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
What's the name of it?

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Alligator Alligator, Body's Never Heal? Yeah? Yes, what you think
that shit? Crazy?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (20:58):
When I first heard the album, I was like, this
is some Bennie the Butcher type shit does with like wow, yeah,
Like I think I.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
May have heard like one freestyle from DOCI before this,
and I was like pretty good, but you know, I
didn't know she had an album coming out. And then
Rosenberg was like, yeah, this is like some really good.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Some backpack type girl rap you that's the type of
shit you like.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I was like, yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Great, No, it's great.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm thoroughly impressed. She she sounds like she's been going
through it for the past year or so.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
And she signed the TD.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, She's like the album has a real TD feel.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
It does like I don't like I don't know their
whole process, but it feels like they might get the
same producers in the room and be like, all right, well,
mister Kendrick folder, you obtusly can't touch that, and this
is a Jay Rock folder, you can't touch that.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
But the rest of these fold album we do.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Uh So I guess dough, she said, because I was
listen to the Joe Buden podcast and she said that
this is a mixtape.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
She's not even a real album. I'll take it where
you can call it where you want to call it,
get another one whatever.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Ship was great, no skips, no skips, It's got her
doing melodies, got her doing the backpack rap, It's got everything.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
My favorite song on there, and I gotta give it
some more listens to, like, you know, really pull my
five or six off. But the one that really stuck
out to me was the Woe when she's kind of
having a conversation with her inner monologue and La is
like her therapists like, hey, what have you been going through?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
And I was like, this is great when.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's a great abue. Cleaning your house too too.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, when she she put her Old Nigga on blast,
she talked about like how her label just wanted her
to do TikTok ship. She didn't want to do it,
but fucking Bill's gotta get paid.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I was like, that's real.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, and I talking aboutw she you know she she
really likes the drugs apparently good for her.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Hey, hey, everybody's got their vices.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
He wa ain't did a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
He turned out. Okay, yeah, I guess that's true.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Didn't get the super Bowl though.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's probably why.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
You know it was.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's it was funny like that backlash that happened, and
like the backlash of the backlash, because the backlash of
the backlash all centered around Yo, did y'all see his
performance at WrestleMania.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
They ain't want that ship?

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Give me give me songs? Way you could perform in
super Bowl for thirteen minutes? That that are now you
know the super Bowl is it's called it mixy, but
like it's more.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Give me commercial songs that he can perform a super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Missus officer, you didn't can.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Do missus officer?

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Okay, all right, I'll give you that one.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
He could do a verse off six foot seven foot
like maybe like the first like do you do something
with like a band coming out, and then six eight
a bunch and then he does.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
The first verse, go DJ.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Go DJ H.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Let me think what.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Else you can't do lollipop? You can't be your stage
unless he just edit it. But I mean that you
can't do that. You know, that's one of his most
popular songs.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I feel like he has to at least do the
hook from Blaine Bline.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Right, Okay, I'll be honest with you, Lil Wayne is
not a.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Now super bowlack, y'all think he's not that stage?

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Is that stage is too big for him to be? Okay,
I don't wanna say that because he's a little Wayne.
He no stage too big? Why am I trying to
put this?

Speaker 4 (24:44):
He's not? Like, maybe you can help me out, he's not.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
The super Bowl is a big stage, right, we know that,
But like it's a big stage for acts who have
music that crossed lines. Now I'm not saying Wayne doesn't
cross lines and crossed over and not exactly right. Uh So,
like in our culture, let's just say it was a
black event. I'm oh, yeah, Wayne, New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
That makes sense, right, But like the super Bowl is
like international, I'm not saying way it's not international.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
But his music when it comes to like commercial success
or or when it comes to sponsors, like they can't
have that stuff on stage. You can't come out on
stage with a white cup because we all know what's
in that cup. Sure it's very true like for its
like Kendrick, Kendrick and nothing too.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
It comes to entertainment value.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Right, So like when we watched the the pop Out Show, Kendrick,
I did not notice about Kendrick by final out doing
the pop Out Show. Kendrick could dance, which I never
knew because man was dancing all over the place. And
they remember when Kendrick did. Kendrick did the super Bowl
before he was like a feature with Dragon though. Yeah,

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but he came out with like like he came out
with like the Nation Islam whoever the niggas were, and
then they were like marching like Kendrick is.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Kendrick can entertain. That's what I'm getting that.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, every time he lived a way he's either wrapping
off key. He even said to himself doing a podcast
that he don't remember half his lyrics. You want that
on stage, so listen, and you want that on stage
rubbers in black culture.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Listen, I thought Kendrick was a great choice.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Of course you did because you want to see him.
You want to see him called Drake a pedophile for
thirteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I want That's why.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I want to hear sixty thousand people say.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
A minor, Oh my god, did you if you're Drake?
Are you watching super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
No? No, I'm just I'm a bet. I'm drinking. I'm
a bet on the team they're gonna lose.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Or do you watch super Bowl to that point and
then turned off?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I don't watch it at all.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
I'm sure Drake throws super Bowl parties this year, So
if you was drinks boy, would you hit him up
this year? Like, yo, we're doing that? You just leave
Drake alone, leave alone, not say nothing, lead that man alone. Nope, Okay,
I never go all over the place. But I just
think when it comes to represent black culture, representing hip hop,

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representing music as a whole, I think Kendrick is a
safe bet.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
So you don't, So you don't think the backlash was
warranted at all? Well thought, people just kind of make feels.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
When you hear New Orleans, you meanly think Lil Wayne, right,
You're like Lil Wayn's gotta be on that stage somewhere. Now,
I wouldn't be surprised in that little Wayne and Kendrick
do have songs together. I mean so, I mean, but
then that'd be a shot at Drake. Like that's a
shot at Drake.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Wayne come out for Kendrick at the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
He did a shot a shot that definitely.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Don't call Drake at all.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
You leave him alone unless you forty or something. You
just go do a wellness.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Check, not yo yo, We're good.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
All right, you want to talk good.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
So you're saying Wayne definitely can't pop out, then.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I'm not saying you can't. I mean, everything Kendrick said
it is true, and Wayne feels a way about it
because I mean, that's the thing people ignore about this
whole beef is that all these people have an issue
with Wayne, and when you hear them talk about it,
they all sound justified, except for Rick Cross.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I mean, well, Rick Ross said Drake sent a season
desist of French, right.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So that's the reason for French to have an issue
with Drake. Correct, Not Rick Ross?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Well what if? Okay, you know what I'm on, So
hold on.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
But that's like, let's say you and Drake had a
song you wanted to release it, Drake sends you before
your album you're all about dropped.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Next day Drake sends you a ceasy desist order or whatever.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
And then I started beefing with Drake because you're my
man's you think that's wrong?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
No, and what are we talking about? It's that same thing.
Obviously Ross is close to the French than he is
to Drake. That's that tells me.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I just think Ross is kind of like realize that Drake.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Was weeping like and just needed needed a reason to
just distance himself. And he's like, oh, do.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
You know the great music that we won't have anymore
because Ross and Drake are beefing do It's like eight
tracks fire, every single song I needed together?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Was they even talk about did a mixtape together? We're
not getting that now.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Sacrifices must be made, all right?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
So what do you think You're what feature you think
of miss more Drake in future or Drake and Ross?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Drake and Ross. Drake and Ross made phenomenal music.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
But but listen every day hustle it is a record.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
So if this be brought us future more future than Ross,
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
With that so they got rid of Drake, but we
got Future in Ross.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Now, you know, I started to thinking about it. I
was like, every Ross and Future song I kind.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Of love it.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, they don't even.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Have anything though, Huh when this nigga starts singing.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's why ship, That's why I shut off the album.
That ain't that great.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
So so you think the backlash for Wayne is warranted?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
No, not at all. Because when they were in Atlanta,
you know who headline the super Bowl, Maroon five.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
But Maroon five had somebody come on stage. I thought,
didn't they have a I don't remember it?

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Is it Lady Gaga? Well, I give what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
So I did see the sheet come out that showed
every hometown that's had the super Bowl and the rappers
at hometown or the artists at hometown. And only time
they've only done it twice. The second time was when
they were in California they had Dre in them, and
the first time is I don't remember who the first
time was.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
But they only did it twice. Everybody's got recent called
recC bias. So they're like, oh, you know in.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
The LA they had Dre and them, why can't they
had Wayne in New Orleans like bro the the NFL's
got to look out for his sponsors. Then then and
you got jay Z, who's looking out for just the
culture in general. If you don't you don't know, if
you don't half your lyrics and you're always drinking or whatever,
like why would I want you on stage?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
And and and then social media is Wayne did not
look good at russell A.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Social Media is a crazy thing, right.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Obviously there's one side social media where they're like, y'all
should have had Wayne, fuck jay Z whatever.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Then the outside social media is like thank you jay Z.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
And then it's clips are just a little Wayne at
different concerts, just doing just like crazy shit like humping
the air, the lollipop.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
He does not look like a good performer to me,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
So when it comes to performance, obviously I want you
to know your lyrics, but the second part that you
gonna entertain me, And and Kendrick is good at putting
on a show. We saw that with I think the
pop up Show really helped Kendrick because he put on
a show. I ain't go me and you if you
said John come over, I got a bottle we're gonna
watch the pop up show.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I'll watch it again.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hell, even if it was the.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
I just lost it. But anyways, that nigga put on
a show, so like, yeah, I will watch that again.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Like you gotta be able to put on a concert.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
That's a concert.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
That's why Beyonce has done it twice.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
That's why Bruno Mars did it twice.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's why at some point Taylor is gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
That's why Usher got to do it, was gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I mean, that's why, you know, had he not gone
completely insane, Kanye would have done it by Now.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Can you imagine Kanye with millions of people watching the
live microphone?

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I could Nope, nope, I will watch that just to
see what he says.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I wouldn't care about just be sitting there like wait,
like I know it's they.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Had the best rating they've ever had.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Like they would people watching that to the super Bowl vote.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Reports will come out one billion people tuned into the
super Bowl halftime show.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
To see what Kanye about to say.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
But no, there's not a chance.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
In twenty twenty four, I would give Kanye West a
live mic that would terrifying.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Oh Man terrified.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I think that'd be I mean in the NFL's best
non sponsored, not when it comes sponsors, but the NFL's
best interest.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
That would be entertaining. They're looking for views and get
them views.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Hey, yeah, if you want views, if you if you're
cool with any publicity is good publicity.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Put Kanye up there. Not only when you get one
of the most amazing shows.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Your Kanye can put a show you you'll get aheadline
Kanye show.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
That's that's one man that could pun in a concert.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
What I'm saying, had he not gone completely insane, he'd
have done it by now.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
All right, So I know that we glossed over fifty
or fifty six nights.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
We've glossed over future. Uh thoughts on the mixtape coming
on next weekend?

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I need it now.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Well, when you sent me that, I thought, I don't
know why.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I thought this weekend was the twentieth. So when I
went to my phone on Friday, I was pissed. I
was like, where the fuck is this album? So way
back and look, and it's at the twentieth.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
So we got one more week.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
One more. I want it now. I'm ready for some
fall time. So we got damn so We're getting three
albums for Future this year.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
That's crazy because we got both of the both of
the metro Frons, and then we're getting this one Future.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
You're working, man.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
I love it Future out here doing this. Uh, I
love it. Obviously, I'm the I'm just a big Future fan.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Future.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
I mean, obviously we all have our own different goats,
but do we I think we do. We'll have our
different goats. But like, just currently, my favorite artist currently
is Future.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Who's your favorite artist currently?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I haven't thought about that in a while.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Yeah, currently, I mean say, uh, watch Benny. He's gonna say, oh,
you know, do listen to Big Sean, which we never
talked about.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Benny's up there, for sure. Bennie in the Future are
definitely in the top three for sure.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Well, we'll get a Bennie in Future song that would
be good good over Batpa beat.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
What are you thinking about that?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
So?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
What about the Big Sean album? Exactly? Exactly? Thank you?
Go ahead, find a way to talk about.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
It, viewed it with smiles, go ahead, find a way
a couple of episodes ago.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Go ahead, find a way to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
It's too peaceful.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
This nigga's stuttering. Oh it's peaceful, it's too peaceful.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, this fan's too happy.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
He's too happy.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I'm happy for him, happy form, but he's too happy.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
A lot of it starts.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
You know what I've always said about like meg albums,
right like they start to sound like this one long song.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Oh yeah, you said that about the baby too. Then
where has he been at.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
He's been releasing Ship like his Instagram's going crazy. Just
no one cares, being honest, My issue with the Shawn
album is that, like every song sounds the same.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Oh that's been releasing Ship.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah okay, every song like sounds the same to me, No,
not monotone, Like the same boring subject matter and the
same of I'm on an elevated playing over.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
He sounds like he's out ready to retire.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Well he did this, Kanye, so.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
So like that's my issue with it. I still gave
him three bumps because I can't say.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like that that album was terrible. It was terrible. It
was terrible.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Look, you can't even say it.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
It was terrible. This is where this is where bias
comes in. You can't tell your man's when when she
is bad. She was bad?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Was tell him Hall of Fame was bad?

Speaker 4 (37:13):
That ship was bad? Which one Hall.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Of Fame and second album?

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Oh I forgot about that album.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I looked Sean's face like, yeah, I was I was bad,
bro this album.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
I feel like he made Detroit, which was a mixtape
and he just you know what, I ain't gonna say
that because what was the.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
One when he had Drake on that Scott Paradise.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
That album was fantastic. So between that and Detroit are
probably his Those are his best albums. In my in my,
in my eyes, those are his best albums, right.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, darn, Scott Paradise and Detroit two are his best projects.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
And this nigga and not Lady trait to this nigga
not compared to compared to the recent one?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Yeah it is. You don't want to talk about it.
You don't even want to be honest. Why you don't
want to be honest?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Why don't you want to be on?

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Because you said, compare it to this one was just
a great album.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Detroit two, Okay, if you compared it out, Okay, hold on,
what's the name of this new album?

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Is called me? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
That shit sounds crazy. That even sounds peaceful to peaceful
hold on, better you than Me? If you compare Detroit
too to bear You than Me. Detroit two is a
fantastic album, But just Detroit two on its own is
not a fantastic album. Say two and a half Buffs
two and a half, bro, and it's barely getting that
point five, you know what I mean? Barely barely barely

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getting that point five?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
You think you're the only nigga that I like Detroit two.
That's another thing, too. You the only nigga I know
that like Detroit two. Nobody talks about Detroit.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Tooum, you're the only thing.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Gona talk about Detroit too. Nobody else, nobody else about.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Can be wrong. It's okay.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
You're scared to tell Shawna's last album was pretty good.
Better You than Me? Like what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Listen, I just said it was. It was a good album.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
You can't even Okay, all right, it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I don't don't know where you're going with the bad part.
That's all right. That's kind of crazy. So you you
ready to redo your your tearing on?

Speaker 5 (39:15):
You know where Big Sean ranks when it comes to
these big when it comes to Cole Drake Kendrick. Oh
that's another thing too. I don't forget nothing. See, I
just dropped my memory. Didn you say Shawn's bandon Kendrick
or Kendrick stole his flow from Sean or.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Something like that. Did you say that?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I didn't say Kendrick.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Okay, what'd you say? Then you said you said Sean
was bredon Kendrick. Yeah, yeah, I think I said the one.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Song they had together, they had together he washed the
key washed them. Sean washed Kendrick on Holy Key.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Sean washed Kendrick on Holy Key, and then.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Kendrick got him on control. I'll put Kendrick at the.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Top now, Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
I was just check it because because we had this
conversation I think it was last year, and I told
you how great Kendrick was, and you're like, oh, Shawn's better,
and then you kept putting Sean number three or whatever,
Sean rand between those guys, and I was like, no.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Kendrick is better than Sean. I kept telling you that,
and now you finally.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
See the like, listen, it took the hate once.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Once I saw the hate, and I was like the
second Kendrick said, Now let me tell you I'm the
biggest hater.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
After that he got the number one spot. I hate
the way that you walk, the way to talk, I
hate the way you dressed.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
That's when he got the number one spot. It took that.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Yeah, it didn't take me tell you last year that
he was better. No, I mean, Kendrick, go ah hell
or run this year though.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
We get we get a classic album.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
After the super Bowl, it might be time to start
looking at him in that top five like ever top five?

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Ever? Who's your top five again?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Whole big pot m nas.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Who are you taking out of Put Kendrick in there.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's gonna be mad at me.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Pop Yo, you're taking pack out of the top five.
You can't. So oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Here's well, here's the thing from it, because POC's number five,
pock is number five, because lyrically everybody else in the
top four is better.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Bar for Barr, you better go in this this whole
thing about how pot then can do different flows.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
He had one flow.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
He took Ryan Hennessy An Enemy ninety eight.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
The songs okay, but but you also a nigga listened
to Cameron right Lions, Tigers and Bears. Oh mind you know, okay,
I'm just saying that's a nigga.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
In the cameraon. But you wanna talk about pot.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Listen you you listen to Cam's freestyles lately, Cam and killing.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
You tell me if Pa was still alive, he he
wouldn't have freestyles.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
You think pop would if Pap would have lived longer.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
You're telling me that.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Okay, all right, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
But again, he was at number five because you.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Put Eminem higher than Pop. Absolutely got nothing but garbage
out there after the Marshallmallows LP.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
What you got.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Eminem show them shows five?

Speaker 5 (42:20):
You need those two albums? Okay, I give you Marshmallows LP.
You think the Eminem show is better than anything Pop
came out with, I.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Think is better than a lot of what Pop came
out with.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
All right, see see we called bar foot ball called
this region regional bias.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Right here, it's part better than m bar for bar.
No all right now, No, it's part better than nas
bar for bar. No, it's pop better than big bar
for bar.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
So big is my goal. So I don't think he was.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Part better than whole bar for bar.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
I mean hole is.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
No all right, But you're looking at bars. See this
is where we got is the most important thing. Then
this is where we gotta look at. This is where
we gotta look at. We gotta come up with criteria,
right like cultural impact bars of course, actually Complex did
the whole thing of like we gotta figure out the

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what what are the.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
What we rate them against?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
So to me, if you can like have like one
hundred point rubric, right, and you divide up into these.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Categories, okay, bars, like the most point you can get,
I say, would be like.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Seventy, and then like catalog most points you can get
would be like twenty, and then like after that, so
you got ten points left for you know impact, you
know sing and sales. So my point is if you
have the best bars, you're gonna be at the top.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
You think Kendrick's better than.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Pot so again back to my point, it's Kendrick bar
bar better than pot.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Hold On.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
I was looking for the Complex list, but I found
a Billboard list. Fucked Billboard, but look this is what
I found. So Billboard did the top fifty rappers of
all time? Ye, so jay Z was number one. Number
two was Kendrick Well, okay, number two is Kendrick. Number
three was NAS, Number four was POT.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Number five was M and M.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
So they took big out. They took your goat out.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
They took big with six. Yeah, they took big out.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
So all right, so that list right there.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Would you rather take big out for Kendrick or would
you rather take pok out for Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Whatever?

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Rather take big out for Kendrick? Or who was the
one pop pop? So I would say pop out for Kendrick.
But I want to know how to came up with
this because if you look at cultural impact, I feel

(45:17):
like pac was bigger than Big when it comes to
cultural in.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
My opinion, Like that's part of that lower tier of
you know, you get ten points total for that.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
You only get ten points of cultural impact.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, because I'm all about I'm about the music.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Okay, hold on a second, time out, Time out?

Speaker 5 (45:32):
When at you we're arguing about this that maybe we've
been doing this podcast for a long time, but you
said hip hop is the greatest like music genre in
the world.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
You said that, right, And I think I said I
think it's a ADM or something like that.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
So if hip hop is the greatest genre of music
in the world, and you impact it more than another artist.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Why is it only ten points?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Because we're talking about within the subculture of hip hop,
because it's the biggest genre in the world and it
has so much impact. That's why I rank rappers higher
on like the you know, the overall list of artists
then like that most people do, because if hip hop's
the biggest selling genre, then you have to rank the

(46:17):
artists that are the biggest selling and the most impactful
in that higher than say, I don't know, insert random
country singer here.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
But if you're just judging the industry, I mean, the
culture against itself, then I'm not judging the impact because
I'm just judging itself.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
We already know we.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
The biggest, So you get what I'm saying. But again,
Kendrick has to drop another classic album to surveplant Park
because at that point he'll have four classic albums, four
classic albums, bars that.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Are out of this world.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
You know you just like Tucs.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
I hit my mic too because Doubs get me flustered
over here It paused but.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Victory and one of the greatest rap beefs of all time.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
So hold on. So the Forbes. Top five was it
was jay Z, Kendrick number three was Nas, number four
was it was a park and then five was Eminem
That was that was Billboard. Right now, I found an
article on Forbes. Forbes number one is jay Z, Number

(47:30):
two is Kendrick. Number three is Little Wayne. Number four
is what j Cole? Number five is Pak? What's Forbes doing?
Man number eight Nicki Minaj, all right, so yeah, yeah
we're talking that list out. I found the complex list

(47:56):
complex said jay Z, Biggie, Nas, Rock.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Kim and l who.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
I think it's just all I think it's all about
like when are you grading him against? And I'll tell
you this right now. The way you disrespect Pot is unbelievable.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I don't disrespect Pak. I got pocket.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
While the top five you said you take that nigga out,
you said number five, you see that nigga out for Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Kenjick who Kenjick? Who grew up under Pot?

Speaker 5 (48:27):
Hey, Kendrick's got that Pot sold him?

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Does he not? Oh?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Look see hey that was almost out the computer over.
Some niggas say Kobe better than Jordan.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yo, No, let's not do that. I mean Kobe was great.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
But just saying like, but again, top five again, Kendrick
has to drop another classic album Sister Plant Pot And
you said, like, I'm disrespecting pac you then you need
to be on the phone calling Billboard right now. They
just disrespected your goat.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Yeah, I mean right, Big was amazing.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Big. I see you see the artwork every time you
walk into my place.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
I know if Big would have lived longer, he I
don't know where jay Z would have been. Honestly makes
you wonder dow that it does. I don't think jay
Z would have been known as the greatest ever.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I know that no, but I will so it gets
it gets interesting because like when Big died, like they
were building something special in Rockefeller, they weren't, and like
and they had found you know, that young kid named
just Blaze, and you know, we're starting to mess around

(49:44):
with that those kids from Virginia and call themselves that
planet name the Neptunes.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
And then slowly after that, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Some kid from Chicago trying to popping up, wanting to
rap all the time, Kanye of the West or something
like that.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
So I'm not saying Rockefeller wouldn't be where where it
was at or j Z wouldn't be where he's at.
But I mean you heard that story when when Cameron
was on Dream Champs, Cameron was supposed to sign with
Big and Big got killed. Now imagine if Big would
have picked up diplomats.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
That Adam be great.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
You watching Big rap it all?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I'm ready, yes, Biggie heat Maker.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
But I said all of that to say, you know,
maybe Jay doesn't get some of those like classics that
he gets Big Big O a.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Guy, and then we also would have got more Big
and Jay joints too, to think, like, I ain't gonna
lie that that on the Big Boys album Bad Boys album,
what was that song they did with Jay and Big?
It was when that came out. It was when it
had Shake Tell Feather on it. Remember that album. A

(51:02):
lot of Love was on that album too, Uh it
was that was that the big was that the Bad Boys.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I don't think James Big had a song on there.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
I mean they did a I can hear the beat
my head, but I can't remember the words.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Anyways.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
On the Bad Boys album, there is that I'm with
whatever song that had Wayne Joel's and Jim Jones on it.
But then on the mixtape version they put bigs verse
back on it. No, that was on the Biggie DWST.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I'm sorry, Yeah, I can't. I can't find it. Oh no,
that's that's I'm sorry, it's what you want. Oh yeah, No,
that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I know we talked about it a lot on the spot,
but la la la, Man, that's such a record he
still plays to this day. Man, Like you hear that
beat and you're like, oh, it's about to be something
I wish.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
So you know what's crazy is that song nobody hardly
talks about. I feel like that's an underrated jay Z song.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
That ship is crazy and it's underrated because like it
should probably be in the top.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
It should be in the top five.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
It should be actually, it should be playing the clubs too,
Like you mentioned that in the club.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yes, we'll watched right now.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Who yeah, it's five song.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And then Jay got in there.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
He started he was like Tom Brady in the pocket
Jordan Kobe in the fourth quarter when he got in
the booth on that song.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
What's knowing that he had known where it's underrated too?

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Is it called.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
It's like Brooklyn, where does it go? It's like, uh,
it's called Jay z Blue, No, that's not it.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
The song he did with Fab and Uncle Murder.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Yes, it's like a DJ scratching Brooklyn, like the word
Brooklyn Brooklyn, we go hard, Brooklyn, we go hard.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
That one. You don't hear that anywhere.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
That's a record too.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
But this song with Fab two, that Brooklyn song too,
that's just crazy. The Brooklyn Brooklyn whose album is that?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
On FABS album? I think from nothing to something?

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Okay, man ce j Man So jay Z's your goat? Yeah,
let think about it. Yeah, you think Drake can ever
catch him?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I don't think Drake can catch him, just because I
think Jay's lyrics are just so far beyond you think.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Jay is a bear lyricist and Drake.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yes, I don't think it's close.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Okay, I want you to thinking about something.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Okay, that's like you're saying bolt racing, you know children?

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Wait what I want to think about something for a second.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
So obviously jay Z is a rapper, right, Drake is
an artist.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
So like he's doing you know, he's doing E d M,
he's doing R and B, he's doing kind of popish music.
He's doing rap, So like that takes a different type
of pen to do all that, right, but Jay, he's
just rapping Jason's bird lyricist.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
You ever listened to Kingdom come yeah, okay, all right,
thank you, all right, I arrest my case shanor.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yeah, no hopes the goat. Bill Board just told you that.
Forbes just told you that.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
I just told you that is one concept thing that
they all had.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Jay z at number one, I listened to the Blueprint
Blueprint Classic.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I listened to volume one.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
You know what's crazy is Kendrick Kendrick When it comes
to being an artist. Kendrick has it has a pretty
young career right when it comes to being an artist overall,
his career is still kind of young, right, so it's Drake.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Drake is still kind of young too, but uh, Kendrick's.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Career being so young, it's generally known that, even when
it comes to like Forbes, Complex whoever, that Kendrick has
a top five album of all time, which is a
good kid Mass City. I see that on every even
when Apple did their list, that album was number two
on the top fifty greatest albums of all time. So

(55:08):
Drake doesn't have one of us, you know who else
doesn't have a big Sean Yo guy. Yeah, okay, so
let me shure you acknowledge that now.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Classic good Kid, it's good Kid, Mad City buried in Blueprint.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Not to me, it's not. So we don't about top
rap albums of all time.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I would go like Allmatic, Ready to Die, Blueprint, and
then at four, I'm willing to listen to all debates
at four. If you want to tell me good Kid,
Mad City, if you want to say my Beautiful Dark
was the fantasy or college drop out, if you want
to say Mark from Mathews Op. I'm willing to listen

(55:56):
to all arguments at four. But for me that he'sible
doubt or it was written like.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
But that that top three. For me, it's gonna take
a lot to break in that top three.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Nigga loves the Blueprint, man, I do, I do? You
can't remember one line from the Blueprint all right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Like I told yourself, drugs, no hold it that, So
hopefully you want to go through that. I was raising
the projects and rats. Lyrical exercise. Come on, you know,
lyrical exercise, y'all. Niggas ain't tired, right, Mama loved me.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Come on, you know what.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
This nigga going to church this morning.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
A classic classic album.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Blueprint is classic, but yeah, like Gook and Mass City, Like,
if you want to put that forward, I'm all for it.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
So since pod doesn't have any classic albums, Kendrick should
be your top five.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Now right, No, I got some classic albums. All Eyes
on Me is a classic.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
It's not a top five classic though, right, it could
be four or five against all right, all arguments outside
of four and five you got. You gotta put some
respect on, some respect. As bird Man said on Pot's name,
I got him at five. At five, he's teetering. He's
teetering at five.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
It's not teetering.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
It's five.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
It's not his Faulty's teetering.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Pots protoches about the past.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I thought my top five was gonna be setting stone forever.
I didn't think anybody's gonna be able to break.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Into your top That top five is teetering.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I thought that was ship was written in stone, like
the fucking ten Commandments.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I really did.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
You didn't Drake was ever gonna crack it. That don't
you respect Drake?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
He was gonna don't you?

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Why don't you respect Drake? The same reason the Kendrick
don't he make music that PASSIFYE?

Speaker 4 (58:08):
You know what I thought I forgot. I forgot these
headaches I get when I come to this podcast. I
forgot what they felt like.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
I feel this headache coming back dealing with you.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
You got drinking your top five.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
No, but I'm not. I'm not saying no, no, I'm
not saying you can't. I'm not saying you can't crack it.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
You got drinking your top ten because I don't.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
How can you not have drinking top ten. That's like
saying Lebron's not in the top ten. That doesn't make sense. No,
there's no way you keep Lebron on the top ten.
You believe Lebron's Okay. I want to say, oh my god,
I'm about to get the top three. I want to
say I'm about I'm about to pull the Lebron when
we grab a brecase and left the room.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
That's about to be me. I'm about to walk out.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Brown's top three. Fine with that.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I've never you know, disqualified Bron and a basketball player.
It's just something stuff he does antically bother he is.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
The funniest nigga. He's the funniest nigga that doesn't know
he's funny. He's one of those seven niggas. I think
the only person that lied more than Lebron is Hulk
Hogan ul Kulgan.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Be lying the lie.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
You know, you know ul kogans in an interview one
time in one year he wrestled for four hundred days.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Was that a lie?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Okay, because it's only three sixty five.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Because he was flying in Japan and you know, the
time works differently over there, so he's getting that up.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
I mean, yeah, that makes sense. That's like, okay, that's
like you saying your your boss saying you're five minutes late.
You said, no, it was I was in the parking lot,
so I was. I was literally here there. See, it's
exact same thing.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
So yeah, let him count it.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Hulgan be lying the lie.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
And it's like I never knew how bad a person
Hogan was until down on Twitter and then like I
just see everything that he does, compete posted, everything he
does or says, everybody saying fuck call Coogan.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I'm just like, yeah, he is a bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Person, terrible person. Mister McMahon.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
I gotta watch the documentary. I will watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
That's on Netflix, right, Wait, yeah, watch into September.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
But uh, but Drake, you got some hate on Drake Man.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
And I know, I know we've had this back and
forth before, but Drake definitely got two songs off on Kendrick.
I don't care what you say. Drake got to two
songs on Kendrick. So all right, Kendrick Swapper, he what,
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
But we got to get a f out of here. Gun.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
It was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
You gotta go slave away for the man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
I gotta go work. Yeah yeah, and you're gonna go
look clean today? Yeah, cleaned up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
You see me out out here looking scruffy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Was ten thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, yeah, drop your socials on Bilbo swaggens s W
A G G A n Z.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
You heard me proudly you for not getting fired for
your social media Yeah? Probably.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Oh, speaking of that, I got a question to ask you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
So I was that post them by dude in accounting, right,
all right, so guess what.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
I was entering. I was entering my mileage wrong the
whole time.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
So and knowing that, would you just like, would you
apologize to him?

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Because I would hand on him on email. I got
his email.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
I went crazy on him, right and then he just
he just stopped emailing me, right, So you think I
should send him email with an apology, or you think
I should just re smit my mileage the correct way
and just let it die down, don't apologize and say nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
I was like I felt once I figured out because
my coworker was like, John, your in and run, that's
how you do it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
And I was like, oh, that's what he meant, and
he starts laughing. I was like, fuck, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
I felt bad for five minutes, and then after that,
I was like, should I apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that was gonna
I'm gonna re enter the correct way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
You're ever gonna see this accountant?

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Oh no, I'll never see him. He's you know, we're
a big company. I'll never see him. N Okay, all right,
I don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah you down your sword?

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Yeah, yeah, you down your sword. So I might delete
that tweek. That's me apologizing, all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Right, guys.

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Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Two episodes of that every Friday. Next week, I'm bringing
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back going, get a little in depth sports talk going,
let complain about the Browns and let me gloat about
the Lions.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
That nigga DeShawn look like a bad pick up.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I was telling the Browns fan the other day, I
was like, look as bad as Shaun playing, and you
want flack O back, I guarantee you as much money
they given to Shawn, they will fired just fan ski
before before they benched Toshawn because they're paying them with
that money. There's no reason for me to bench him.
So we'll find a coach that can work with them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
I still do. So Brown's in a bad spot. DeShawn
looks bad. Get that man some massages.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
And on that know, guys, we are out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Peace