September 10, 2024 • 54 mins
Smilez checks back in to the pod as they talk Big Sean's new album, take a look back at his catalog before looking into Dub's belief that Sauce Walka isn't a real person and taking a look at his catalog as well. The fellas cap off this pod talking about whether or not lifelong cowboys fan Smilez believes they should give that big money deal to Dak Prescott
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Embrace to Turn Up Podcast. Cultural commentary
from two guys who want all the smoke, all the
smoke and now your hosts, Hey Dumb and John John.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ladies and gentlemen. Huh what?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What? What? What?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'll just say you see, I was excited, like finally
he finally told everybody what what?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Smiles interrupting my intro. What what? What? Ladies and gentlemen,
Welcome back. You guys know the vibes by now. This
is the Embrace to Turn Up Podcast. Guys. We are
in a state of transition. I'm transforming this pod into
something that's gonna be glorious. Part of this transition is
(00:55):
our turn up. Ain't you know, hit the streets every
night anymore? It's just not It's just not niggas, is all.
Some of our turn up is still that. Don't get
me wrong, let me wrong. We still get after it.
But we got all the turn ups. A lot of
turn ups, you know, like you know, fancy football, that's
a turnof for some people. Music, new music, trying to
cipher it, hate on it, listening the old rappers make
(01:18):
new music, Listening the old rappers make old new music.
Motherfucker's making up people just to piss me off. That's
some people's turn up. But guys, there's a lot of
different turns out there, and we're gonna hit them off.
We're gonna start with the music one. This time around,
I got the homie smiles and the mother fucking building smiles.
(01:39):
What's good?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
What's up? Dub? Yes, this turn up is gonna be
quite nice. I just want to say I'm officially looking
to the turn up at my wedding, not at DUB
as officially r s VP. But you know that was
that was on account of me sending him a late RSVP.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But hey yeah, because I I I definitely forgotten. I
was like, oh yeah, I'll be there. Yeah yeah. He's like,
make sure our ZVP. I'm like, oh ship, yeah, that's
the thing you gotta do again, guys, not a not
a real adult here, not a real adult here.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
But the turnip will commence, you know, thanks to the dub.
You know, so you know the turn up is going.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Who knows with everybody slurring the words, and you know,
as I talked through that, that sounds like a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm contemplating trying to do one beforehand. I'm contemplating just
you know, gonna figure out time wise and all that.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah. Well, you know, guys, guys, have you know the
advantage of you have to do. You do a lot
of makeup or anything. You know, you show up, you
get dressed, go stand there. You say, I do call
it a day.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, because I thought about and I was like, I
could possibly probably pull pull that off the day of
like tell everybody like, hey, meet here at this location.
We got the studio. It will be one hour in
and out boom.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, yeah you could. You could, I mean, and
still make it. Yeah, you add a lot to what's
already gonna be a crazy day. But hey, man, heyde me,
I'm here. Yeah, Mike, I can run b Mike, I
can I can be just a sniper, run to see Mike. Whatever.
I got you, I got you. But getting started. But yeah,
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as smiles on his interruption interrupted me, big shout out
of congrats to I, Ray and Ari under new Bundle
of Joy coming soon under production, I guess. And yeah,
there's the Gooney family is expanding every evermore so. So
I'm just saying, guys, Aaron's a great name. Use it
(04:00):
either way. Either way, if it's a December baby too,
maybe you better even better.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh yeah, because your birth your birthday is in December too.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You see the math. You're doing the math and the science. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I was like, oh yeah, like I forgot you because
you usually go be with the family around the time.
Yeah I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah yeah, Now you're doing the math. Now, you're doing
the math and the.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Science espial, especially the babies, like especially within like that
week of your birthday too, or like a days or
even on the day. Hey, just go ahead do it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Hey, math is math, And I'm like, you know what,
no one wants to have their kid on Christmas, so
there's that five day window before. Hey, I like it.
I like it. I like it the same way I
like this new Big Seawan album. But smiles, I got
(05:02):
a bone to pickle you and all the members of
the group of chat. What are y'all talking about? Detroit too?
Ain't great?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
It's it's not it's not amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And we're talking about why would I stop lucky me
deep reverence, wolves, body language harder than my demons.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Come on, like let me pull Because I was like,
come on, because, like I said, I recently listened to
that and I was like, it's like, this wasn't as
great as I thought.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It Still Rise with Dom come on.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So yeah, like deep deep reverence. I know, I like
that Wolves like with Us Alone, Raised by the Wolves. Yeah, yeah,
let's see that. I remember I really liked Uh. I
didn't like zend the fuck out, Send the fuck out,
Send the fuck up. I didn't like that. I like
(06:02):
guard your Heart, but because you know my guy is
on it. Yeah, body language. I did like that with Ti.
Let's see what comes out. And I do remember for
sure the twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wayne and he who won't be mentioning?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, that guy that was that was Doube. See what
else do you had? Don? Life with Wayne? I still
like the Friday Night Cycler just because for the aspect
of the fact that he got niggas that don't even
fuck with each other.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Come on, what we're talking about? And then, especially when
close the album, I was still our Rise with Don Kennedy.
Come on, what what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And then if you got the deluxe edition, you know
that that Berserk with Fur I love the Berserk with Ferg.
I love that eisode.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Again, guys, what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Here, but overall I think, but I could compared it
to the Detroit Mixtape because I was like the Detroit mixtake,
which is more.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like, well, the Detroit mixtape, and that is that is
his magnum open, that is his greatest project. He won't
ever surpass that. But Detroit Too, it's really good, if
not great album. Like I really want you guys to
all go back and re listen to that album.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And see you fucking fire if you want to call
it something, just something different, probably like my pri be like,
oh yeah, but when you call it Detroit Too, I'm
comparing it to the first one.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is the sequel ever better than the original?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
No? Not really, I mean unless it's more about nothing
from one.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, all right, it s walle now so I
just gotta stop.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And is really good too, like the album, but it
doesn't compare to more about Nothing but the album Nothing's
just because it followed the same kind of protocol of
what more more so, I see, I don't like those
compared to comparison. It's just that overall catalog wise, you know,
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because he just has a slightly higher, better catalog. But yeah,
Detroit to it tried, it tried, to follow the Detroit
theme of like having the interluse, you know, like Dave
Chappelle and Ericabadu and all that talk about visiting Detroit.
(08:34):
But it just the feeling of what the first Detroit
mixtake was. It just I didn't get that it It
was kind of like kind of like the precursor to
the to the new album Better Me than You, because
it was like that's when you started really seeing Big
Sean kind of like, oh yeah, I'm like meditating, my
life is getting better, Like I'm trying to be all
(08:56):
about peace, and that's kind of what Detroit Too was
kind of like the precursor two for me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I mean, you're not wrong, like Seawan has found piece
in a way that most artists you never do. That
being said, that might be the drawback of this album
Too got too much Peace, Artist Pain. It just is,
(09:26):
you know, life is suffering artist pain. It's kind of
what it is. That being said, Still a pretty good album.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, It's like it's a really good album. Like I
said in the group check, this album is really for
like my phase of life right now. I really like that.
I'm not saying it's his best album. It's not his
best album. It's not even like my favorite album of
the year. But I would say, like as far as
(09:58):
this phase of life right now, this is like, oh
this album, I know I'm gonna go back and listen
to it again, Like, oh, I really like this Big
Sun album.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I mean, there's there's some tracks on here. I'm
definitely gonna grab off and just you know, put onto
my my backpack playlist of Peace and Harmony and shit.
I do think it's three or four tracks too long, Yeah, yeah,
because like.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was just like you, like, once I got to
like track thirteen or so, I was just like, what
we still got like six s tracks?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
When you when your album is just one specific topic, yeah,
like it becomes like it becomes repetitive. You're saying the
same thing in a different way, over a different beat,
over and over again. And this is kind of like
the argument I would make about to me Meg, the
(10:53):
Stallion albums all sound like one long, soft mm hm.
And that's not the like diminish her talent or anything.
I think she's extremely talented. But like I think I
think it's I think like you're seeing in the music industry,
like there's no A and RS anymore there's no the
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producers are just people who hand you beats. They don't
sit in through the entire process. Like there's that lack
of like quality control that you see in hip hop
now because like the labels found that, you know, doing
the whole artist development thing and putting all you know,
all of like the machine backing behind a project cost
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too much money and they weren't making money in the
way they used to because niggas don't go out and
buy CDs. Yeah, kids, we used to go to the
store to buy CDs. So the numbers that you see
from artists and when we were growing up are way
more impressive because you couldn't just hit play from your bed.
(11:59):
Like jay Z sold turned thousand copies of the Brew
Print on day one, smiles. Do you know what days
the Blueprint came out?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
September eleventh, September.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Fucking eleventh, when they were flying planes in the building,
And I would I categorize that as the first world
ending event that millennials live through. Two hundred thousand people
still said I gotta go get that whole album. But again,
you got whole machines behind artists like that, and I
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think like when you don't have like whole machines in
the building anymore. You start to see things like, oh,
this album sounds like a lot of the same. It's
just a lot of peace. It's like, ah, twenty one
songs a piece. That's a that's a lot. That's a lot.
I mean, if you took like four tracks off here,
like you might be like, oh, man, I feel great,
(12:54):
I feel very happy, feel very peaceful after this and
been good because to me, there's only one artist who
has never, ever, ever, ever ever varied his content and
his art hasn't suffered for it, and that is one
Terrence push A te Thort.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He is the only artist.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, like it's and like, don't wrong, Like I'm not
I'm not saying like he's a you know, a better
overall artist than other people. I'm just saying, like, the
level he's at, it's consistent, the art stay is consistent,
and you never get sick of it. It's coke wrap today,
it's coke wrap tomorrow, it's coke wrap on Wednesday, It's
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coke wrap every single day of the weekend twice on Sunday.
And if there's a new story about coke, guess what
He's gonna reference it. Yep, there's an artist featured on
the album. Guess what they're talking about. They're talking about coke,
and I mean yeah, I mean so you even see
(13:59):
what push like? His albums aren't that long, He's I
don't think his last album was twenty one tracks on
let me go back and look at it. My song
was fire. By the way, it's almost dry. Twelve song,
twelve songs. He knows, he knows, like I got one lane,
(14:21):
I'm gonna talk about selling coke for twelve tracks, got it?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And then the album before that, Daytona, only six songs.
But boy, that's excuse me, seven songs. Boy, what a
seventh song journey that is. But again, coke, if you know,
you know the games we play, the games we play
(14:51):
is literally just a song about like the different things
they do because they sell co urd piano, come on keys,
let's be real, like come back babies, appreciate that's just
like a song about the fiends coming back to buy
more coke. Yeah, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It was Wrath of King. Oh yeah, I listen.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, But anyways, back to Searnathan smiles, how many buffs
would you give this album, I need to know, the
streets need to know.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Only because again, like I said, it's too long. I
really have to give it a full like two or
three more listens to which one I am gonna end
up like kind of taking out so I can contentually
make my own version of the album. I'll give it
a strong four. It's out a five, right, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
(15:52):
so I said a strong four.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Buffs. You gotta rate it higher than I do. I
was gonna say three point fine, specifically because it's too long.
I will say shout out to Sean is crazy to
hear the rock on a rap album, like and not
(16:14):
like trying to rap like he did on that Tech
nine song. Remember that that was interesting with him, just
like doing you know, doing that skit Rock's another guy.
He seems very very very very happy. But again he
knew when it was trying to entertain the people. He
became the final boss and he was out here just
(16:37):
in afflicting pain and just talking cash.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Ship.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I think Sean could take some notes from that, like
it's cool to be on your piece but popular ship
talk yo ship, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I do. Everybody got seen. I can't remember who it
was one of those blog era guys. Remember which one
it was that I saw tweet He was like, because
he was tweeted about like tracks that he wished what
he was like, Yeah, remember when Big Sean did this,
Like that's all I wanted to say, Like the Big
(17:12):
Sean Miek Mill track when they went back and forth.
He was like, Yo, this He's like, this is what
I was like a little album like, but this is
what kind of energy I was hoping. Big On a
couple of tracks, he was like like, remember this era
of Big Sean. He was just popping this ship.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, like that to me, one of one of Big
Sean's greatest trades. It is like that Detroit style of
ship talking that he does, like on the song was
on the Detroit mixtape, trying to Think out of the
(17:49):
Go always like your boyfriend beyondre he'd be with DeAndre
and maybe looking like prim days, like the rhyme scheme
and that and like the insult and that and like
the stuff he you know on that Furd record berserk
like that.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, like with him and I love that one.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like that to me, that's what makes Sean different. Like
there's there's plenty of niggas talking about peace. Kamon been
talking about peace for thirty years. But what makes Sean
different is he can do that. But he can also
do that I'm telling you don't. Nobody talks shit like
people from Detroit. Part of it is that that main
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character energy that we all have weed a celebrity. Who
fuck is that? I mean shit smiles. You saw me
when when we saw Too Short, I was like, oh
it's too short, Okay, all right, true Detroit niggas out
here what we were talking about. But just that and
like that, that arrogance and that type of shit talking
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Detroit people do, like I've seen little people from other seats.
It's just like, all right, no, we gotta fight them.
We can't, we can't talk at that though. We gotta
fight them. And that's what Sean brought to his music.
One of my favorite attraction Big Sean of all time
is from Finally Famous, Volume two, and it's him and
Dusty McFly and it's called Iraq. Turned the Club to
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Iraq and this bitch everybody else think like that, and
that's what's missing from this project. It's just a little
bit of that. You know, rap has always rapp has
always been about bragging and talking your shit, Like don't
nobody talk about being rich better than Rick Ross? Right,
(19:37):
So if he had an album where like he ventured
off to something else and just he wasn't talking about
being rich anymore, you'd be like even if he had
bars and I'm like, man, this is cool, but this ain't.
This ain't what I come here for, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, he could have gave Like, so I will say
Big Sean could have gave us a couple of those,
like it was like two or three tracks towards the
end of the album, like hey, I'm still do hey,
Like even if they considered you know, bonus tracks or
you know what they say now or whatever, like like
hey these eighteen through twenty one or like just some
(20:19):
the extra like ones I just didn't I couldn't find
out where to put them at an album, but you know,
I have to get my shit off.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, Like if he gave me like one or two
more tracks that were like a step more aggressive than Precision,
was God' like oh yeah, nah, this is it, because
then it strikes that perfect balance. I'm a heeled soul
raising my son and like I've gotten past all you know,
the label politics and how many people owe me money.
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But I'm still like this lyrical ninja with assassin blade
that can like slice and dice you up if needed.
And that would have been the perfect balance.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Know, hip Boy probably was like, Nigga, you ain't you
ain't want this beat? Come on, do this to this beat? Like,
come on, you know I got you, bro like, because
just like hit Boy and and nas like Hippoy and
Seana have been making some great music together the last
like five six years, and hip Boy is probably like, hey, hey,
bro like, do you do your stuff to this beat?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
You don't want it though, you want this one to stick? No?
Oh you did that to this beat? You don't want
to do like you know what what the people want
to this beat? I'm hip, I'm hip boy, and you're
a big Sean. No, okay, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Could have had you know, a couple of hit Boy
beats on him. He talking cash ship and you know,
just maybe got big hit on the album. That would
have been dope. If I was Sean, I would have
I would have really like lobbied him to let me
have Toby on this album too, because outside of not
(22:02):
like us, Toby's my song of the Year. I fucking
love that song. Like the hook on that ship is
just so like hypnotic, and it just gets stuck in
your head, and then all three guys killed it. I
clearly have to start listening to more Baby Tron I
guess I don't know. He's from the city, so that's
some point I was gonna get to it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
But yeah, yeah, even that as like an extra bump
songing like hey, like, hey, this is a like technically
it was on the m album, but like for those
of y'all who didn't hear the eminem album, check this
check out.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, but that doesn't matter, Like if it's on the album,
you have to consider it as part of this body
of work as well.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was like, it would
have been a great way for people who haven't heard
the song to actually hear the song for the first time, like, oh, shiit,
what's this him? Some dude named Baby Trump. Oh they're
passing on it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Toby McGuire, I got the invi fider receipt. Man, that
ship was fire. I love that shit all right. Speaking
of rappers that I need to get that I need
to finally get into it. So I'm listening to smiles
of Saucewalker really a real person.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yes, yes he is. But I want to give the
caveat that I've never heard a project from soft Walker.
It's just that I've heard like a handful of tracks
from him, on top of hearing other people that I
kind of respect, like hearing like the Dallas area. I
respect like their music tastes, but you know they have
(23:32):
like one guy, he definitely has more of a Southern
Texas like taste when it comes to music. But one
guy he listened to like a whole eclectic like around
of music. Shouts to my guy, uh to Corey because
I actually did an an episode with him when we
talked about a shot a app that he loved. So
(23:52):
but he's the first person I've ever seen talk about
soft Walker. He's a big soft Walker fan. But my
first for rate into hearing soft Walker was my guy,
our guy from Griselda Conway, the Machine. So Conway had
(24:13):
a song called super Bowl pre Trim Juicy Jy or
soft Walker, and I was like, Okay, I've heard of
this guy before. I know he's from Houston. I've never
heard anything from but I'm like, oh, he did this. Damn.
I like this. This guy's actually pretty cool. But I'm
(24:33):
the type of yeah, you can do something pretty cool,
but I ain't gonna really just take it as for
what he said, like this might just be like a
one off type thing, like, oh, like he just did
this because he's on a Conway song. But but then
around that time Jays when jay Z was doing a
little title playlist, the twenty eighteen one where he dropped
(24:58):
his favorite song from ten eighteen. On that playlist, he
has a song called Ghetto Gospel from Salt Walker, and
I was like, oh, I mean, I ain't gonna lie.
I am that guy that if if Hole gave you
this the stamp of.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Approval, I mean, I hope says it's good.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah. So I was like, okay, did I listened to
the song? I was like, oh, okay, I like this.
But also, you know a little bit of backstory to
it was. I guess around that time they were actually
trying to sign him the Rock Nation for Still but
I was like, okay, man, And then he did the
Softwaker did his own song called Dangerous, Daring, Jerky Freaturing Conway,
(25:43):
and I was like, oh, okay, they collab again, Oh
this is fire too. Okay, this guy might be pretty cool,
but I still ain't about to just check out a
project from mine. I ain't got to that level yet.
And then I ramomly heard another song free trin Detroit
rapper Peasy song called the Saft Swalking and Pas, and
(26:09):
I was like, oh, I like this too. Look if
that one was actually on my on my workout playlist,
I was like oh. I was like, okay, I like this,
you know some some some street ship Sft Swalking and
and Pas. And then the most recent song that I
really like, which it's kind of hard to figure out
(26:30):
which whose verse I really like? So Conway has an
artist called Jay Skis, who I really I really liked
so on jay Skis out that he just dropped called
ground Level. He has a song called Situated Free Trian
Salt Swalker and Big Krit And before I even heard
Big Chris versus, I was like this Nigga Sauce Walker
(26:54):
did his ship on this verse. This verse is like fire,
Big Kret came and did this thing too is. I
was like, it's kind of hard. I still don't know
whose first I like more, the crypt or the Saltwalk words,
but I think Kryp might have I mean, soft Walker
Mount have taken the verse for that for that song
like evil Skis. I'm like, this might be nice. And
(27:14):
then just over the last year I've heard like a
couple of interviews from him. It's like he's a really
entertaining guy and he's like his business mind because I
guess he has like other artists that are like signed
to him on his leg he has a label. Heard
like interviewed him just talking about how, yeah, I've made millions,
and the way he explained it was like, hey, think
(27:37):
about your catalog as like uh an apartment building. He
was like, you got your high level high rises, and
you got like the next level. He was just like like, hey,
everybody got like some artists got that hit, that that
one hit that gets some automate. That's those those the penthouses.
He's like, then you got the ones that like they
(27:58):
didn't go like super main Street, but they a lot.
He's like those like the those ones, Like then you
just got like the little tracks here here and there.
They're just like they make they little money here. He's
like like, that's how I think about catalog. He's a.
But also with that, I think about the artists that
are signed to me. They're also in that penthouse, and
because they make money, I'm making money off of them.
(28:21):
And I was like, that's really smart. And then also
I just love the interview he did on Breakfast Club
when he was basically just caught out Drek like, you know, yeah,
me and we're cool, but that niggas like a culture
vulture for the Houston culture, and you know, you need
to represent with more Houston artists, you know. And some
people have come come out and said that like, hey,
(28:42):
you know, he least fucks with the Houston producers like Saltwalker.
Don't know what you're talking about. And then like he
had said something about like bum being not Techley being
from Houston, but he's from poor Arthur, but Bun was
just like yo, I grew up in Houston until I
was in like fourth grade or some ship like that,
you know, But yes I do rap or Arthur Moore,
(29:03):
but I am from Houston and all that, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But you know, so you're telling me that he raps
with with Conway.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Smart business guy actually has bars and he hate straight. Yes,
I might have to give him a shot.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I might might might have to go at least at
least those few songs I told you. Like I said,
I haven't listened to a project. I know I got
K has listened to projects from him, so he could
probably really tell you, like a good project, listen to
more songs to check out. But at least those songs
with Conway, the Jay Skis song and the PZ joint,
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I'll at least tell you to check check out those songs.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm gonna check those outs since some time firmly convinced
that he actually is a real person and y'all didn't
make him up just to fuck with me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Now, putting a million dollars in his mouth, For some
it didn't make no sense because he had just dropped
it in a little segment talk about or I would
I pay fifty thousand dollars for a pair of shoes,
but then you wouldn't got a million dollars worth of
stuff in your mouth. It didn't correlate to me.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I mean, maybe he just a Are you just not
a shoe guy like that? I get it. I mean,
you're not a purse guy. So when your girl told
you she spent five racks on her bag. You look
at her like she's crazy. Now, if you come back
to her and say, yeah, I spent ten racks on,
you know, professionalizing all my pod studio stuff again, she
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might look at you like you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Everybody got their thing, man, everybody got their thing.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah. I can see that. Because you know, I'm a
big Pokemon game guy. I'll sit there and go out
and buy all fifteen versions of the game one knowing
I ain't gonna get to all of them at the
same time, but I just want to say, hey, I
got them all. And you're like, why did you spend
three hundred dollars on Pokemon games? And you're only gonna
play one and it's gonna take you probably like a month, oh,
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actually maybe six months because you have a busy life.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
This woman, now you've been this woman speaking of Pokemon.
I got you this question. So is it crazy to
you two that Tare has watched like you no anime?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I really, I really think he's trolling us.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You Okay, all right, we're here. I do too like
to have grown up in the nineties and to have
never ever seen Star Wars or watched any anime. It
just doesn't seem possible to.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Me, right, I was, like, because even I watched the
Star Wars within the last five six years with the
first because that the last couple of movies that came out,
because I wanted to get prepared for that whatever, that
last one that was that came out. I watched the
whole entire series in preparations to go see that movie.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Right. But the but the original three were on tn
T and TBS all the time when we were.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Kids like that, I'm in the Midwest, Like at some
point it got too cold or too hot for you
to go outside during the weekend, so your ass was inside,
and you know what they was playing on tnc Star
Wars motherfucker every fucking weekend.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
No, that wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
It wasn't cartoons. It was whatever my mom was watching
that I I was the guy that, Hey, whatever my
mom was watching, that's what we all watching. If you
don't like it, you can go somewhere else, go play
your video game on your TV.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
See, that's that's rough. I couldn't imagine my childhood without
Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But then the anime, like come on, like, yeah, the
anime part. I really think he's troubling. I'm like, at
least dragon ball Z like you ain't you ain't at least.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Like you you get you could tell me, like as
an elder millennial. Yeah, I didn't watch Say of the Moons.
I thought it was for girls. Cool get it. I
was the same way for a long time. But at
some point you could just watch the ship.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
But dragon ball Z and Pokemon and vigil n Yu
ye oh, Gundom Wing, yes, which again I want to
I want to make this public statement once again. The
plot of Gundam Wing makes absolutely no sense, like at all.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Explain this to me, because because I haven't watched since
Gunda Wing because I saw it on Netflix they got
a new series, I don't think about watching it.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So the plot is colonies that are in space, but
they're ruled by Earth and they're like kind of subjugated,
almost like you know, the American colonies were h So
the plan for the colonies who were trying to become independent,
they send the five Gundams to Earth to wage war
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on the ruling military, because the military runs the planet essentially,
but it's not like government military, it's a privatized military.
So they and then they do that, and then at
some point the colonies say no, we didn't send the Gundams.
They're on their own. And then then the guns are
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fighting the Colonies and the Earth and then bro, it
just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Ye all I remember is the cool looking suit. So
I was just like, yep, they look fires.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, I mean that, And that's what That's what takes
the show over at the top is that it has
probably some of the coolest Gundoms of like every single
Gundom show. Like the artists like they really went there.
But the plot it's just scott awful.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, because I haven't watched Gundam since that Gundom Wing.
Because I was the leary thing about watching this new one.
I'm like, oh, I've watched since I was a kid,
So let me.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You haven't watched any other Goddam shows. Oh man, so
eighth and Mes Team. It's probably the best Goddam show. Okay,
I think it's only like twenty episodes long, but that
story wise, hands down, that's the best one. G Gundam
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is probably the most fun Gundam show. That's the one
where like the Gundams fight the way Zoids did essentially.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Okay, Yeah, I like, I like Zoya. Actually just watched
the video about Zoya's like a week or so ago,
just because I was like, I was like, I was
like because the yager one, the green one, because I
was about the something else and someone said that and
it made it triggered something in my brain to want
to go look up.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Another hitting zym of a show that I'm sure Tyra's
never seen because you' fuck with that. Anim bro just
don't just don't make sense.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Right, He's trolling. He has to be trolling.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
He has to be trolling.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Tho I can't. I can't believe it because even our
got low was like yo, I watched cartoons and ship
He's like until I got to be a teenager and
jumped off the porch to go be in the streets.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Right, But even then, like when what the other kids
in school were talking about was hey, new Dragon ball
Z's coming, like it's time we waited long enough. And
then Ship Roading Warriors I think that originally came out
in like ninety one, so that's played in America for
god knows how long.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I love Men Warriors.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, and then you know Saturday mornings, Pokemon Digitmon Didgitmon
was a better show. I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, like even I've just got this last week.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Sere Sharks, Yes, classic, right, classic, all right? I just
I needed someone else to just talk talk with me
through that of how I don't understand this, and I
think he's really trolling us, because.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, I think that's no way, that's the biggest troller.
I think he's I'm like, no, you really have watched
these shows. He's probably not watched since then.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
But I give you if he sat here and said like, yeah,
I've never watched my hero Academia or Demon Slayer or
Black Yeah, totally. We're in our thirties. I get it.
I get it. You should still probably check them out.
All great shows, but all right, I get it, you're
not You're not there anymore. Even though animes aren't really
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made for kids, they're made for adults.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah, I've been watching Fairytale and my girl was like, yo,
this is for kids. I was like, yeah, not really.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Not, but yeah, to not have seen the ninety staples
of anime, Like, I don't believe. I think he's fucking
with us.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, it's the ultimate troll. I mean, his side piece.
She she tweaked to put some on Instagram every other day,
something that's anime related exactly. If that don't make you
want to get into anime, I don't know what exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Another speaking of trolling is Juicy J trolling. That's with
this jazz album.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
No actually, and actually I gave it one listening to
through last week and I actually kind of like it.
I've really I've seen myself listen to it again. So
I did write down some of my stand up songs
I like to you, uh, Suicide Doors, FA's Gangster. The
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higher ups sometimes and things change, especially the one that's
too that's basically his like love letter or whatever to
those that passed away in three six Mafia, which is
to you get the to U track with Robert Glasper
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and I guess Emmy seacrests uh. That's how I found
out that the even the album was out because I
saw him post stat I was like, Juicy J and
Robert Glassper.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
What Yeah. I just I just like randomly was scrolling
through Twitter and somebody was like, yeah, dude different, I'm
like he did a lot now.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, So when I would look at the song he was,
I saw my hold he dropped an album the other day.
It's a Josh album, Raven Knight Social Club. But then
I listened to it, I was like, oh, this is pretty.
He's just rapping over his jazz sounds like social music. Overall,
I would say the album is kind of just like
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a retrospective album, like he got you know, his slightly
turned up like stuff you talk about and smoking and
all that, like higher ups. But overall, I think it's
like a retrospective album kind of him just showing like
his growth as like a man and a person. Just again,
like the song to You, like Queen never heard nobody.
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His mouth here just really reminisced like that over like
losing Homies.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's funny, she said, like talk about his growth. UCJ
is definitely forty nine years old, so for us to
be getting growth this lad in the career, you're like, boy,
I mean, I guess everybody grows up at different rates, right, Yeah,
Like in this.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Little interview he did with whiskerleefand recently Heet Somebody he
does therapy and how he like loves being a father
like taking his kids to school and stuff, but also
like I'm still smoking every day.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Head the man that wrote Tear the Club Up and
slav On My not is in therapy. Yep, that's nuts.
M h, that's nuts to think about.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
But he says, like eighty to ninety one of the
songs that come out on the radio, it's a pretty
six manthia sample. You know, we all know that doesn't
be super over who did that number.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
But I was like, I was gonna say that that
sounds like the you know ninety percent of all stats
are made up on the spot type of thing. Yeah,
that sounds like a really high number.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
He was like, I get He was like, I get
five to six sample of course every day. And he's like,
all I do is approved, approved, approved, approved, approve. Meanwhile,
you got another other state and he was like, yeah,
I don't approve none of that. I gotta listen to it.
Feel like, if that shit is trash, no, can't sample
my ship though, make your trash ass rap song or
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your trash ass R and B song you want to
sample hit maker because you are you doing sample stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I mean, I feel like there's gotta be a medium
in between the two, Like maybe you listen to it
and as long as it's not like, as long as
it's in not kind of the same vein of you
know the stuff you made originally, probably go ahead and
improve it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, that's a that's what LJ said. He was like,
he doesn't deny everything. It's just like he said, if
it sound trash or if it's like you really just
using my sample to like pretty much carry the song.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah no, Yeah, Like I think that's something that specifically
hit maker needs to get away from. It's just taking
a whole ass song saying it's a sample. Is it?
Is it? Or is it a cover?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
There's a there's a big difference there. But I mean,
I mean, hey, shout out to DUCYJ. Just clearing everything.
Fuck it, I'm with it. Artists supposed to be passed
down anyway. I was very taken the back by this
album when I first heard it, Like I'm like, this
feel like a hip hop infused intro to like those
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nineteen fifties Private Detective shows and shit, I'm like, I
think I like this, but this is this is odd
coming from JUICYJ. But I mean, cudos to him. Like
Fucked Up Era is a really good song that's gangster's phenomenal.
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Like anytime you put Cordell on the record, I'm gonna
check it out like it's got some good ship here.
I would give this a solid four buffs.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yep, I'll say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Like I mean, I'm sure that there might be some
tracks I pull off of here when I go back
to Juicy's catalog. This one be one like I immediately
pull up. Because when it's when it's Juicy Ja time,
it's time to really get down in the street and party. Yeah.
But you know, if you just if you want some
chill hip hop, and you know, you want an artist
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that you know, you know they're floating their Cadence Raver
and I Social Club from Juicy Jay's definitely definitely up there.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
If you're gonna chill with your cigar, you may have
your glass of bourbon or something whiskey. Yeah, just chill.
You can put this on.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, no, yep, put that on. You know, had a
football game on mute while you're drinking, you drinking your
old fashioned yeah no smile. Speaking of football, Before we
get up out of here, I need to know do
you want Jared Jones and your Dallas Cowboys to sign
(45:10):
Dak long term? Because we're talking about sixty million a
year for five years. No, probably one hundred and forty
million guaranteed. No, no, they why not?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well, I throw out the caveat. I need to see
what he does this year. But I don't think we're
gonna do anything different this year, especially on the fact
that we ain't got no real dependable running back to
help him. Really really the pressure, because I'm sorry, Zeke,
you're broken down. You ain't gonna be that guy. Rico Dodo.
(45:50):
You didn't give me enough last year to make me
believe in you.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
No, but U and David Cook, we don't know what
you're gonna right now. You're just the name Dalvin Cook.
But yeah, I don't want I don't want them to resign.
Dak Trey, just sit there, get all the reps you
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can and practice so you can prove to them that, Hey,
during the off season, y'all need to look legitimately. Give
me a chance to be the starter next season, or hey, Cowboys,
you can just ship the bed the whole entire season
for me and go after Shador Sanders skulk a.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Shadoor Interesting m hmm, because we don't.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
I don't know about that. Bringing Dian as a coach
I don't know. I don't know about all that. He
can stay at Colorado.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Because I hate the Cowboys. I think there's still a
nine to ten win team this year. Smiles. I know
that does not put you in running to draft shador standers.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I know that's like if they wanted to just go
ahead just ship the bed on purpose.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, no, that's that's rounded upon. So you're okay with
navigating the waters of not knowing who your quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
It's not it's not like we're ever going to make
it for the super Bowl as long as Jerry Jones
is the owner and GM.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Are you really okay with that? You see what the
Patriots are going through right now?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Mm hmm. Like after having a little text message back
and forth with my dad recently about the Cowboys, he
was like, Hey, I've come to the point in my
life where I understand we're never gonna make it to
the super Bowl, and I'm quite fine with it, and
I'm still gonna watch them every week every year.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
You saw what the Bengals went through postcards and Palmer
before Joe Burrow, you saw what the Bears went through
even up until now we think came he's a guy,
But I don't know, you're you really want to live
in those waters of uncertainty at the QB position. I
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don't care. It's not because the Smiles is not a
fun place to be, I promise you is not. Well.
Stafford was getting hurt his first couple of seasons, and
we was out there with John Kidna and dan Orlowski.
It was not fun.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Being a Cowboys fan is not fun, Okay, So you
just just just go ahead, give me these these years
of even further mediocrity or just doom and gloom. Just
give to me now, just because I don't even see
who would pick up that.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
So I don't know, you don't see who would pick
up Dak.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Like who wou really want them to be? The like,
I don't know, unless it's like the team I really
don't care about and don't want watch it. Probably one
of them type of teams.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
The Raiders, yep.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
I don't like them.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
The Raiders, The Giants.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, I really don't care about, because the enemy.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
The Panthers, depending on like what this season looks like
with Bryance trying to think who else?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, all teams I want to care about watching.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Ahead, pretend y'all get nothing for a top fifteen quarterback,
and you're depending on Trey Lance. Trey Lance, and then
Kyle Shanahan gave up on Yea, And I know he
has his own track record with black quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
But that's why I say, just go ahead, just shift
the bed.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
They're not gonna willingly little smiles. That is a that
is a fan only fallacy, that you're gonna get a
group of fifty two guys out there and they're just
gonna willingly try to lose a game. Not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Hey, Hey, hey, hey, michaeh is your leg hurting? Do
you feel like you need to miss? Like four weeks?
We got you in that contract is offseason. I got
y'all got you.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
He would still say no. He would still say no.
He wants to play. That's what they're hardwired to play,
the game. Top fifteen quarterback smiles. And you just wouldn't
let him walk dollarteen smile me.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
If we ain't got no other options, of course you
gotta do it, because then you use him as a
bargainship or trade him.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
But well, no you can't. He has no trade clause.
Last deal they signed with Dak said no more, no
more what you call no trade clause and no more
franchise tag. So either long term deal or he walks
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for nothing.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Damn See, I ain't know about the no trade cause thing.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
So then you lose a top fifteen quarterback for nothing.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Or be stuck with him and continue with this mediocrity.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Is he really the problem?
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Not all the way? That's that GM of ours, that
that guy that you calls all the shots who he says,
there's no better fucking owner GM than me and the mom.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
So then if he's not the problem, why let him
walk to then create another problem, like you can't overcome
your problem of not having a running game and your
GM making really weird deals like you and never.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Going after anybody in the offseason and never going after
anybody doing doing free agency, never and.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
The people let money free agency. Why would you let
your top fifteen quarterback go if you know you're not
gonna go get another one.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
That's even more reasonable, Get these fans to hopefully be
like Jerry step down leave. We're revolting these these these
cowboys fans. They're not gonna do it. They need to,
They're not to, They're not But they need to come on, like,
just revote, don't stop letting us be the number one
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franchise in all of sports, because y'all just want to
continue for money into this man's pockets, and this is
what we keep getting year after year after year.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
So it sounded like to me that you guys probably
just keep that.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah, yeah, because either way, you know, I'm gonna watch
every week either way and then smiles.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
You can you can be mediocre and like get yourself
some hope every so often. Being terrible isn't fun, Like
it's I promise you, it's worse. I've been there, been
there for a long fucking time. It's way worse.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
I remember last year year at Tumble, like yo, I
will fucking cry as the Cowboys go to I mean,
if the Lions go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
I cried after each one of their playoff wins. I
cried when we locked up the division on Christmas Day.
My four year old niece had never seen me cry before,
and she said, Uncle Aaron, what's wrong? I said nothing.
I've just never been this happy in my entire life.
I've never my higher fucking life.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, and I know like each time, like y'all had
like the different shirts or whatever that y'are dropping. Lowe
was like sending pictures to the group chat like Copps,
like five seconds after
Welcome to the Embrace to Turn Up Podcast. Cultural commentary
from two guys who want all the smoke, all the
smoke and now your hosts, Hey Dumb and John John.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ladies and gentlemen. Huh what?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What? What? What?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'll just say you see, I was excited, like finally
he finally told everybody what what?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Smiles interrupting my intro. What what? What? Ladies and gentlemen,
Welcome back. You guys know the vibes by now. This
is the Embrace to Turn Up Podcast. Guys. We are
in a state of transition. I'm transforming this pod into
something that's gonna be glorious. Part of this transition is
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our turn up. Ain't you know, hit the streets every
night anymore? It's just not It's just not niggas, is all.
Some of our turn up is still that. Don't get
me wrong, let me wrong. We still get after it.
But we got all the turn ups. A lot of
turn ups, you know, like you know, fancy football, that's
a turnof for some people. Music, new music, trying to
cipher it, hate on it, listening the old rappers make
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new music, Listening the old rappers make old new music.
Motherfucker's making up people just to piss me off. That's
some people's turn up. But guys, there's a lot of
different turns out there, and we're gonna hit them off.
We're gonna start with the music one. This time around,
I got the homie smiles and the mother fucking building smiles.
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What's good?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
What's up? Dub? Yes, this turn up is gonna be
quite nice. I just want to say I'm officially looking
to the turn up at my wedding, not at DUB
as officially r s VP. But you know that was
that was on account of me sending him a late RSVP.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But hey yeah, because I I I definitely forgotten. I
was like, oh yeah, I'll be there. Yeah yeah. He's like,
make sure our ZVP. I'm like, oh ship, yeah, that's
the thing you gotta do again, guys, not a not
a real adult here, not a real adult here.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
But the turnip will commence, you know, thanks to the dub.
You know, so you know the turn up is going.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Who knows with everybody slurring the words, and you know,
as I talked through that, that sounds like a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm contemplating trying to do one beforehand. I'm contemplating just
you know, gonna figure out time wise and all that.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah. Well, you know, guys, guys, have you know the
advantage of you have to do. You do a lot
of makeup or anything. You know, you show up, you
get dressed, go stand there. You say, I do call
it a day.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, because I thought about and I was like, I
could possibly probably pull pull that off the day of
like tell everybody like, hey, meet here at this location.
We got the studio. It will be one hour in
and out boom.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, yeah you could. You could, I mean, and
still make it. Yeah, you add a lot to what's
already gonna be a crazy day. But hey, man, heyde me,
I'm here. Yeah, Mike, I can run b Mike, I
can I can be just a sniper, run to see Mike. Whatever.
I got you, I got you. But getting started. But yeah,
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as smiles on his interruption interrupted me, big shout out
of congrats to I, Ray and Ari under new Bundle
of Joy coming soon under production, I guess. And yeah,
there's the Gooney family is expanding every evermore so. So
I'm just saying, guys, Aaron's a great name. Use it
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either way. Either way, if it's a December baby too,
maybe you better even better.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh yeah, because your birth your birthday is in December too.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You see the math. You're doing the math and the science. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I was like, oh yeah, like I forgot you because
you usually go be with the family around the time.
Yeah I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah yeah, Now you're doing the math. Now, you're doing
the math and the.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Science espial, especially the babies, like especially within like that
week of your birthday too, or like a days or
even on the day. Hey, just go ahead do it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Hey, math is math, And I'm like, you know what,
no one wants to have their kid on Christmas, so
there's that five day window before. Hey, I like it.
I like it. I like it the same way I
like this new Big Seawan album. But smiles, I got
(05:02):
a bone to pickle you and all the members of
the group of chat. What are y'all talking about? Detroit too?
Ain't great?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
It's it's not it's not amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And we're talking about why would I stop lucky me
deep reverence, wolves, body language harder than my demons.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Come on, like let me pull Because I was like,
come on, because, like I said, I recently listened to
that and I was like, it's like, this wasn't as
great as I thought.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It Still Rise with Dom come on.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So yeah, like deep deep reverence. I know, I like
that Wolves like with Us Alone, Raised by the Wolves. Yeah, yeah,
let's see that. I remember I really liked Uh. I
didn't like zend the fuck out, Send the fuck out,
Send the fuck up. I didn't like that. I like
(06:02):
guard your Heart, but because you know my guy is
on it. Yeah, body language. I did like that with Ti.
Let's see what comes out. And I do remember for
sure the twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wayne and he who won't be mentioning?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, that guy that was that was Doube. See what
else do you had? Don? Life with Wayne? I still
like the Friday Night Cycler just because for the aspect
of the fact that he got niggas that don't even
fuck with each other.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Come on, what we're talking about? And then, especially when
close the album, I was still our Rise with Don Kennedy.
Come on, what what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And then if you got the deluxe edition, you know
that that Berserk with Fur I love the Berserk with Ferg.
I love that eisode.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Again, guys, what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Here, but overall I think, but I could compared it
to the Detroit Mixtape because I was like the Detroit mixtake,
which is more.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like, well, the Detroit mixtape, and that is that is
his magnum open, that is his greatest project. He won't
ever surpass that. But Detroit Too, it's really good, if
not great album. Like I really want you guys to
all go back and re listen to that album.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And see you fucking fire if you want to call
it something, just something different, probably like my pri be like,
oh yeah, but when you call it Detroit Too, I'm
comparing it to the first one.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is the sequel ever better than the original?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
No? Not really, I mean unless it's more about nothing
from one.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, all right, it s walle now so I
just gotta stop.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And is really good too, like the album, but it
doesn't compare to more about Nothing but the album Nothing's
just because it followed the same kind of protocol of
what more more so, I see, I don't like those
compared to comparison. It's just that overall catalog wise, you know,
(08:12):
because he just has a slightly higher, better catalog. But yeah,
Detroit to it tried, it tried, to follow the Detroit
theme of like having the interluse, you know, like Dave
Chappelle and Ericabadu and all that talk about visiting Detroit.
(08:34):
But it just the feeling of what the first Detroit
mixtake was. It just I didn't get that it It
was kind of like kind of like the precursor to
the to the new album Better Me than You, because
it was like that's when you started really seeing Big
Sean kind of like, oh yeah, I'm like meditating, my
life is getting better, Like I'm trying to be all
(08:56):
about peace, and that's kind of what Detroit Too was
kind of like the precursor two for me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I mean, you're not wrong, like Seawan has found piece
in a way that most artists you never do. That
being said, that might be the drawback of this album
Too got too much Peace, Artist Pain. It just is,
(09:26):
you know, life is suffering artist pain. It's kind of
what it is. That being said, Still a pretty good album.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, It's like it's a really good album. Like I
said in the group check, this album is really for
like my phase of life right now. I really like that.
I'm not saying it's his best album. It's not his
best album. It's not even like my favorite album of
the year. But I would say, like as far as
(09:58):
this phase of life right now, this is like, oh
this album, I know I'm gonna go back and listen
to it again, Like, oh, I really like this Big
Sun album.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I mean, there's there's some tracks on here. I'm
definitely gonna grab off and just you know, put onto
my my backpack playlist of Peace and Harmony and shit.
I do think it's three or four tracks too long, Yeah, yeah,
because like.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was just like you, like, once I got to
like track thirteen or so, I was just like, what
we still got like six s tracks?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
When you when your album is just one specific topic, yeah,
like it becomes like it becomes repetitive. You're saying the
same thing in a different way, over a different beat,
over and over again. And this is kind of like
the argument I would make about to me Meg, the
(10:53):
Stallion albums all sound like one long, soft mm hm.
And that's not the like diminish her talent or anything.
I think she's extremely talented. But like I think I
think it's I think like you're seeing in the music industry,
like there's no A and RS anymore there's no the
(11:14):
producers are just people who hand you beats. They don't
sit in through the entire process. Like there's that lack
of like quality control that you see in hip hop
now because like the labels found that, you know, doing
the whole artist development thing and putting all you know,
all of like the machine backing behind a project cost
(11:37):
too much money and they weren't making money in the
way they used to because niggas don't go out and
buy CDs. Yeah, kids, we used to go to the
store to buy CDs. So the numbers that you see
from artists and when we were growing up are way
more impressive because you couldn't just hit play from your bed.
(11:59):
Like jay Z sold turned thousand copies of the Brew
Print on day one, smiles. Do you know what days
the Blueprint came out?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
September eleventh, September.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Fucking eleventh, when they were flying planes in the building,
And I would I categorize that as the first world
ending event that millennials live through. Two hundred thousand people
still said I gotta go get that whole album. But again,
you got whole machines behind artists like that, and I
(12:31):
think like when you don't have like whole machines in
the building anymore. You start to see things like, oh,
this album sounds like a lot of the same. It's
just a lot of peace. It's like, ah, twenty one
songs a piece. That's a that's a lot. That's a lot.
I mean, if you took like four tracks off here,
like you might be like, oh, man, I feel great,
(12:54):
I feel very happy, feel very peaceful after this and
been good because to me, there's only one artist who
has never, ever, ever, ever ever varied his content and
his art hasn't suffered for it, and that is one
Terrence push A te Thort.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He is the only artist.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, like it's and like, don't wrong, Like I'm not
I'm not saying like he's a you know, a better
overall artist than other people. I'm just saying, like, the
level he's at, it's consistent, the art stay is consistent,
and you never get sick of it. It's coke wrap today,
it's coke wrap tomorrow, it's coke wrap on Wednesday, It's
(13:36):
coke wrap every single day of the weekend twice on Sunday.
And if there's a new story about coke, guess what
He's gonna reference it. Yep, there's an artist featured on
the album. Guess what they're talking about. They're talking about coke,
and I mean yeah, I mean so you even see
(13:59):
what push like? His albums aren't that long, He's I
don't think his last album was twenty one tracks on
let me go back and look at it. My song
was fire. By the way, it's almost dry. Twelve song,
twelve songs. He knows, he knows, like I got one lane,
(14:21):
I'm gonna talk about selling coke for twelve tracks, got it?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And then the album before that, Daytona, only six songs.
But boy, that's excuse me, seven songs. Boy, what a
seventh song journey that is. But again, coke, if you know,
you know the games we play, the games we play
(14:51):
is literally just a song about like the different things
they do because they sell co urd piano, come on keys,
let's be real, like come back babies, appreciate that's just
like a song about the fiends coming back to buy
more coke. Yeah, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It was Wrath of King. Oh yeah, I listen.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, But anyways, back to Searnathan smiles, how many buffs
would you give this album, I need to know, the
streets need to know.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Only because again, like I said, it's too long. I
really have to give it a full like two or
three more listens to which one I am gonna end
up like kind of taking out so I can contentually
make my own version of the album. I'll give it
a strong four. It's out a five, right, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
(15:52):
so I said a strong four.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Buffs. You gotta rate it higher than I do. I
was gonna say three point fine, specifically because it's too long.
I will say shout out to Sean is crazy to
hear the rock on a rap album, like and not
(16:14):
like trying to rap like he did on that Tech
nine song. Remember that that was interesting with him, just
like doing you know, doing that skit Rock's another guy.
He seems very very very very happy. But again he
knew when it was trying to entertain the people. He
became the final boss and he was out here just
(16:37):
in afflicting pain and just talking cash.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Ship.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I think Sean could take some notes from that, like
it's cool to be on your piece but popular ship
talk yo ship, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I do. Everybody got seen. I can't remember who it
was one of those blog era guys. Remember which one
it was that I saw tweet He was like, because
he was tweeted about like tracks that he wished what
he was like, Yeah, remember when Big Sean did this,
Like that's all I wanted to say, Like the Big
(17:12):
Sean Miek Mill track when they went back and forth.
He was like, Yo, this He's like, this is what
I was like a little album like, but this is
what kind of energy I was hoping. Big On a
couple of tracks, he was like like, remember this era
of Big Sean. He was just popping this ship.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, like that to me, one of one of Big
Sean's greatest trades. It is like that Detroit style of
ship talking that he does, like on the song was
on the Detroit mixtape, trying to Think out of the
(17:49):
Go always like your boyfriend beyondre he'd be with DeAndre
and maybe looking like prim days, like the rhyme scheme
and that and like the insult and that and like
the stuff he you know on that Furd record berserk
like that.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, like with him and I love that one.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like that to me, that's what makes Sean different. Like
there's there's plenty of niggas talking about peace. Kamon been
talking about peace for thirty years. But what makes Sean
different is he can do that. But he can also
do that I'm telling you don't. Nobody talks shit like
people from Detroit. Part of it is that that main
(18:32):
character energy that we all have weed a celebrity. Who
fuck is that? I mean shit smiles. You saw me
when when we saw Too Short, I was like, oh
it's too short, Okay, all right, true Detroit niggas out
here what we were talking about. But just that and
like that, that arrogance and that type of shit talking
(18:55):
Detroit people do, like I've seen little people from other seats.
It's just like, all right, no, we gotta fight them.
We can't, we can't talk at that though. We gotta
fight them. And that's what Sean brought to his music.
One of my favorite attraction Big Sean of all time
is from Finally Famous, Volume two, and it's him and
Dusty McFly and it's called Iraq. Turned the Club to
(19:16):
Iraq and this bitch everybody else think like that, and
that's what's missing from this project. It's just a little
bit of that. You know, rap has always rapp has
always been about bragging and talking your shit, Like don't
nobody talk about being rich better than Rick Ross? Right,
(19:37):
So if he had an album where like he ventured
off to something else and just he wasn't talking about
being rich anymore, you'd be like even if he had
bars and I'm like, man, this is cool, but this ain't.
This ain't what I come here for, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, he could have gave Like, so I will say
Big Sean could have gave us a couple of those,
like it was like two or three tracks towards the
end of the album, like hey, I'm still do hey,
Like even if they considered you know, bonus tracks or
you know what they say now or whatever, like like
hey these eighteen through twenty one or like just some
(20:19):
the extra like ones I just didn't I couldn't find
out where to put them at an album, but you know,
I have to get my shit off.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, Like if he gave me like one or two
more tracks that were like a step more aggressive than Precision,
was God' like oh yeah, nah, this is it, because
then it strikes that perfect balance. I'm a heeled soul
raising my son and like I've gotten past all you know,
the label politics and how many people owe me money.
(20:47):
But I'm still like this lyrical ninja with assassin blade
that can like slice and dice you up if needed.
And that would have been the perfect balance.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Know, hip Boy probably was like, Nigga, you ain't you
ain't want this beat? Come on, do this to this beat? Like,
come on, you know I got you, bro like, because
just like hit Boy and and nas like Hippoy and
Seana have been making some great music together the last
like five six years, and hip Boy is probably like, hey, hey,
bro like, do you do your stuff to this beat?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
You don't want it though, you want this one to stick? No?
Oh you did that to this beat? You don't want
to do like you know what what the people want
to this beat? I'm hip, I'm hip boy, and you're
a big Sean. No, okay, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Could have had you know, a couple of hit Boy
beats on him. He talking cash ship and you know,
just maybe got big hit on the album. That would
have been dope. If I was Sean, I would have
I would have really like lobbied him to let me
have Toby on this album too, because outside of not
(22:02):
like us, Toby's my song of the Year. I fucking
love that song. Like the hook on that ship is
just so like hypnotic, and it just gets stuck in
your head, and then all three guys killed it. I
clearly have to start listening to more Baby Tron I
guess I don't know. He's from the city, so that's
some point I was gonna get to it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
But yeah, yeah, even that as like an extra bump
songing like hey, like, hey, this is a like technically
it was on the m album, but like for those
of y'all who didn't hear the eminem album, check this
check out.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, but that doesn't matter, Like if it's on the album,
you have to consider it as part of this body
of work as well.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was like, it would
have been a great way for people who haven't heard
the song to actually hear the song for the first time, like, oh, shiit,
what's this him? Some dude named Baby Trump. Oh they're
passing on it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Toby McGuire, I got the invi fider receipt. Man, that
ship was fire. I love that shit all right. Speaking
of rappers that I need to get that I need
to finally get into it. So I'm listening to smiles
of Saucewalker really a real person.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yes, yes he is. But I want to give the
caveat that I've never heard a project from soft Walker.
It's just that I've heard like a handful of tracks
from him, on top of hearing other people that I
kind of respect, like hearing like the Dallas area. I
respect like their music tastes, but you know they have
(23:32):
like one guy, he definitely has more of a Southern
Texas like taste when it comes to music. But one
guy he listened to like a whole eclectic like around
of music. Shouts to my guy, uh to Corey because
I actually did an an episode with him when we
talked about a shot a app that he loved. So
(23:52):
but he's the first person I've ever seen talk about
soft Walker. He's a big soft Walker fan. But my
first for rate into hearing soft Walker was my guy,
our guy from Griselda Conway, the Machine. So Conway had
(24:13):
a song called super Bowl pre Trim Juicy Jy or
soft Walker, and I was like, Okay, I've heard of
this guy before. I know he's from Houston. I've never
heard anything from but I'm like, oh, he did this. Damn.
I like this. This guy's actually pretty cool. But I'm
(24:33):
the type of yeah, you can do something pretty cool,
but I ain't gonna really just take it as for
what he said, like this might just be like a
one off type thing, like, oh, like he just did
this because he's on a Conway song. But but then
around that time Jays when jay Z was doing a
little title playlist, the twenty eighteen one where he dropped
(24:58):
his favorite song from ten eighteen. On that playlist, he
has a song called Ghetto Gospel from Salt Walker, and
I was like, oh, I mean, I ain't gonna lie.
I am that guy that if if Hole gave you
this the stamp of.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Approval, I mean, I hope says it's good.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah. So I was like, okay, did I listened to
the song? I was like, oh, okay, I like this.
But also, you know a little bit of backstory to
it was. I guess around that time they were actually
trying to sign him the Rock Nation for Still but
I was like, okay, man, And then he did the
Softwaker did his own song called Dangerous, Daring, Jerky Freaturing Conway,
(25:43):
and I was like, oh, okay, they collab again, Oh
this is fire too. Okay, this guy might be pretty cool,
but I still ain't about to just check out a
project from mine. I ain't got to that level yet.
And then I ramomly heard another song free trin Detroit
rapper Peasy song called the Saft Swalking and Pas, and
(26:09):
I was like, oh, I like this too. Look if
that one was actually on my on my workout playlist,
I was like oh. I was like, okay, I like this,
you know some some some street ship Sft Swalking and
and Pas. And then the most recent song that I
really like, which it's kind of hard to figure out
(26:30):
which whose verse I really like? So Conway has an
artist called Jay Skis, who I really I really liked
so on jay Skis out that he just dropped called
ground Level. He has a song called Situated Free Trian
Salt Swalker and Big Krit And before I even heard
Big Chris versus, I was like this Nigga Sauce Walker
(26:54):
did his ship on this verse. This verse is like fire,
Big Kret came and did this thing too is. I
was like, it's kind of hard. I still don't know
whose first I like more, the crypt or the Saltwalk words,
but I think Kryp might have I mean, soft Walker
Mount have taken the verse for that for that song
like evil Skis. I'm like, this might be nice. And
(27:14):
then just over the last year I've heard like a
couple of interviews from him. It's like he's a really
entertaining guy and he's like his business mind because I
guess he has like other artists that are like signed
to him on his leg he has a label. Heard
like interviewed him just talking about how, yeah, I've made millions,
and the way he explained it was like, hey, think
(27:37):
about your catalog as like uh an apartment building. He
was like, you got your high level high rises, and
you got like the next level. He was just like like, hey,
everybody got like some artists got that hit, that that
one hit that gets some automate. That's those those the penthouses.
He's like, then you got the ones that like they
(27:58):
didn't go like super main Street, but they a lot.
He's like those like the those ones, Like then you
just got like the little tracks here here and there.
They're just like they make they little money here. He's
like like, that's how I think about catalog. He's a.
But also with that, I think about the artists that
are signed to me. They're also in that penthouse, and
because they make money, I'm making money off of them.
(28:21):
And I was like, that's really smart. And then also
I just love the interview he did on Breakfast Club
when he was basically just caught out Drek like, you know, yeah,
me and we're cool, but that niggas like a culture
vulture for the Houston culture, and you know, you need
to represent with more Houston artists, you know. And some
people have come come out and said that like, hey,
(28:42):
you know, he least fucks with the Houston producers like Saltwalker.
Don't know what you're talking about. And then like he
had said something about like bum being not Techley being
from Houston, but he's from poor Arthur, but Bun was
just like yo, I grew up in Houston until I
was in like fourth grade or some ship like that,
you know, But yes I do rap or Arthur Moore,
(29:03):
but I am from Houston and all that, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But you know, so you're telling me that he raps
with with Conway.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Smart business guy actually has bars and he hate straight. Yes,
I might have to give him a shot.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I might might might have to go at least at
least those few songs I told you. Like I said,
I haven't listened to a project. I know I got
K has listened to projects from him, so he could
probably really tell you, like a good project, listen to
more songs to check out. But at least those songs
with Conway, the Jay Skis song and the PZ joint,
(29:45):
I'll at least tell you to check check out those songs.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm gonna check those outs since some time firmly convinced
that he actually is a real person and y'all didn't
make him up just to fuck with me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Now, putting a million dollars in his mouth, For some
it didn't make no sense because he had just dropped
it in a little segment talk about or I would
I pay fifty thousand dollars for a pair of shoes,
but then you wouldn't got a million dollars worth of
stuff in your mouth. It didn't correlate to me.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I mean, maybe he just a Are you just not
a shoe guy like that? I get it. I mean,
you're not a purse guy. So when your girl told
you she spent five racks on her bag. You look
at her like she's crazy. Now, if you come back
to her and say, yeah, I spent ten racks on,
you know, professionalizing all my pod studio stuff again, she
(30:45):
might look at you like you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Everybody got their thing, man, everybody got their thing.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah. I can see that. Because you know, I'm a
big Pokemon game guy. I'll sit there and go out
and buy all fifteen versions of the game one knowing
I ain't gonna get to all of them at the
same time, but I just want to say, hey, I
got them all. And you're like, why did you spend
three hundred dollars on Pokemon games? And you're only gonna
play one and it's gonna take you probably like a month, oh,
(31:13):
actually maybe six months because you have a busy life.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
This woman, now you've been this woman speaking of Pokemon.
I got you this question. So is it crazy to
you two that Tare has watched like you no anime?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I really, I really think he's trolling us.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You Okay, all right, we're here. I do too like
to have grown up in the nineties and to have
never ever seen Star Wars or watched any anime. It
just doesn't seem possible to.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Me, right, I was, like, because even I watched the
Star Wars within the last five six years with the
first because that the last couple of movies that came out,
because I wanted to get prepared for that whatever, that
last one that was that came out. I watched the
whole entire series in preparations to go see that movie.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Right. But the but the original three were on tn
T and TBS all the time when we were.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Kids like that, I'm in the Midwest, Like at some
point it got too cold or too hot for you
to go outside during the weekend, so your ass was inside,
and you know what they was playing on tnc Star
Wars motherfucker every fucking weekend.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
No, that wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
It wasn't cartoons. It was whatever my mom was watching
that I I was the guy that, Hey, whatever my
mom was watching, that's what we all watching. If you
don't like it, you can go somewhere else, go play
your video game on your TV.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
See, that's that's rough. I couldn't imagine my childhood without
Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But then the anime, like come on, like, yeah, the
anime part. I really think he's troubling. I'm like, at
least dragon ball Z like you ain't you ain't at least.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Like you you get you could tell me, like as
an elder millennial. Yeah, I didn't watch Say of the Moons.
I thought it was for girls. Cool get it. I
was the same way for a long time. But at
some point you could just watch the ship.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
But dragon ball Z and Pokemon and vigil n Yu
ye oh, Gundom Wing, yes, which again I want to
I want to make this public statement once again. The
plot of Gundam Wing makes absolutely no sense, like at all.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Explain this to me, because because I haven't watched since
Gunda Wing because I saw it on Netflix they got
a new series, I don't think about watching it.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So the plot is colonies that are in space, but
they're ruled by Earth and they're like kind of subjugated,
almost like you know, the American colonies were h So
the plan for the colonies who were trying to become independent,
they send the five Gundams to Earth to wage war
(34:08):
on the ruling military, because the military runs the planet essentially,
but it's not like government military, it's a privatized military.
So they and then they do that, and then at
some point the colonies say no, we didn't send the Gundams.
They're on their own. And then then the guns are
(34:32):
fighting the Colonies and the Earth and then bro, it
just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Ye all I remember is the cool looking suit. So
I was just like, yep, they look fires.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, I mean that, And that's what That's what takes
the show over at the top is that it has
probably some of the coolest Gundoms of like every single
Gundom show. Like the artists like they really went there.
But the plot it's just scott awful.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, because I haven't watched Gundam since that Gundom Wing.
Because I was the leary thing about watching this new one.
I'm like, oh, I've watched since I was a kid,
So let me.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You haven't watched any other Goddam shows. Oh man, so
eighth and Mes Team. It's probably the best Goddam show. Okay,
I think it's only like twenty episodes long, but that
story wise, hands down, that's the best one. G Gundam
(35:35):
is probably the most fun Gundam show. That's the one
where like the Gundams fight the way Zoids did essentially.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Okay, Yeah, I like, I like Zoya. Actually just watched
the video about Zoya's like a week or so ago,
just because I was like, I was like, I was
like because the yager one, the green one, because I
was about the something else and someone said that and
it made it triggered something in my brain to want
to go look up.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Another hitting zym of a show that I'm sure Tyra's
never seen because you' fuck with that. Anim bro just
don't just don't make sense.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Right, He's trolling. He has to be trolling.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
He has to be trolling.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Tho I can't. I can't believe it because even our
got low was like yo, I watched cartoons and ship
He's like until I got to be a teenager and
jumped off the porch to go be in the streets.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Right, But even then, like when what the other kids
in school were talking about was hey, new Dragon ball
Z's coming, like it's time we waited long enough. And
then Ship Roading Warriors I think that originally came out
in like ninety one, so that's played in America for
god knows how long.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I love Men Warriors.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, and then you know Saturday mornings, Pokemon Digitmon Didgitmon
was a better show. I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, like even I've just got this last week.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Sere Sharks, Yes, classic, right, classic, all right? I just
I needed someone else to just talk talk with me
through that of how I don't understand this, and I
think he's really trolling us, because.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, I think that's no way, that's the biggest troller.
I think he's I'm like, no, you really have watched
these shows. He's probably not watched since then.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
But I give you if he sat here and said like, yeah,
I've never watched my hero Academia or Demon Slayer or
Black Yeah, totally. We're in our thirties. I get it.
I get it. You should still probably check them out.
All great shows, but all right, I get it, you're
not You're not there anymore. Even though animes aren't really
(37:53):
made for kids, they're made for adults.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah, I've been watching Fairytale and my girl was like, yo,
this is for kids. I was like, yeah, not really.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Not, but yeah, to not have seen the ninety staples
of anime, Like, I don't believe. I think he's fucking
with us.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, it's the ultimate troll. I mean, his side piece.
She she tweaked to put some on Instagram every other day,
something that's anime related exactly. If that don't make you
want to get into anime, I don't know what exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Another speaking of trolling is Juicy J trolling. That's with
this jazz album.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
No actually, and actually I gave it one listening to
through last week and I actually kind of like it.
I've really I've seen myself listen to it again. So
I did write down some of my stand up songs
I like to you, uh, Suicide Doors, FA's Gangster. The
(39:07):
higher ups sometimes and things change, especially the one that's
too that's basically his like love letter or whatever to
those that passed away in three six Mafia, which is
to you get the to U track with Robert Glasper
(39:27):
and I guess Emmy seacrests uh. That's how I found
out that the even the album was out because I
saw him post stat I was like, Juicy J and
Robert Glassper.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
What Yeah. I just I just like randomly was scrolling
through Twitter and somebody was like, yeah, dude different, I'm
like he did a lot now.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, So when I would look at the song he was,
I saw my hold he dropped an album the other day.
It's a Josh album, Raven Knight Social Club. But then
I listened to it, I was like, oh, this is pretty.
He's just rapping over his jazz sounds like social music. Overall,
I would say the album is kind of just like
(40:08):
a retrospective album, like he got you know, his slightly
turned up like stuff you talk about and smoking and
all that, like higher ups. But overall, I think it's
like a retrospective album kind of him just showing like
his growth as like a man and a person. Just again,
like the song to You, like Queen never heard nobody.
(40:28):
His mouth here just really reminisced like that over like
losing Homies.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's funny, she said, like talk about his growth. UCJ
is definitely forty nine years old, so for us to
be getting growth this lad in the career, you're like, boy,
I mean, I guess everybody grows up at different rates, right, Yeah,
Like in this.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Little interview he did with whiskerleefand recently Heet Somebody he
does therapy and how he like loves being a father
like taking his kids to school and stuff, but also
like I'm still smoking every day.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Head the man that wrote Tear the Club Up and
slav On My not is in therapy. Yep, that's nuts.
M h, that's nuts to think about.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
But he says, like eighty to ninety one of the
songs that come out on the radio, it's a pretty
six manthia sample. You know, we all know that doesn't
be super over who did that number.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
But I was like, I was gonna say that that
sounds like the you know ninety percent of all stats
are made up on the spot type of thing. Yeah,
that sounds like a really high number.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
He was like, I get He was like, I get
five to six sample of course every day. And he's like,
all I do is approved, approved, approved, approved, approve. Meanwhile,
you got another other state and he was like, yeah,
I don't approve none of that. I gotta listen to it.
Feel like, if that shit is trash, no, can't sample
my ship though, make your trash ass rap song or
(42:10):
your trash ass R and B song you want to
sample hit maker because you are you doing sample stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I mean, I feel like there's gotta be a medium
in between the two, Like maybe you listen to it
and as long as it's not like, as long as
it's in not kind of the same vein of you
know the stuff you made originally, probably go ahead and
improve it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, that's a that's what LJ said. He was like,
he doesn't deny everything. It's just like he said, if
it sound trash or if it's like you really just
using my sample to like pretty much carry the song.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah no, Yeah, Like I think that's something that specifically
hit maker needs to get away from. It's just taking
a whole ass song saying it's a sample. Is it?
Is it? Or is it a cover?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
There's a there's a big difference there. But I mean,
I mean, hey, shout out to DUCYJ. Just clearing everything.
Fuck it, I'm with it. Artists supposed to be passed
down anyway. I was very taken the back by this
album when I first heard it, Like I'm like, this
feel like a hip hop infused intro to like those
(43:31):
nineteen fifties Private Detective shows and shit, I'm like, I
think I like this, but this is this is odd
coming from JUICYJ. But I mean, cudos to him. Like
Fucked Up Era is a really good song that's gangster's phenomenal.
(43:53):
Like anytime you put Cordell on the record, I'm gonna
check it out like it's got some good ship here.
I would give this a solid four buffs.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yep, I'll say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Like I mean, I'm sure that there might be some
tracks I pull off of here when I go back
to Juicy's catalog. This one be one like I immediately
pull up. Because when it's when it's Juicy Ja time,
it's time to really get down in the street and party. Yeah.
But you know, if you just if you want some
chill hip hop, and you know, you want an artist
(44:30):
that you know, you know they're floating their Cadence Raver
and I Social Club from Juicy Jay's definitely definitely up there.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
If you're gonna chill with your cigar, you may have
your glass of bourbon or something whiskey. Yeah, just chill.
You can put this on.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, no, yep, put that on. You know, had a
football game on mute while you're drinking, you drinking your
old fashioned yeah no smile. Speaking of football, Before we
get up out of here, I need to know do
you want Jared Jones and your Dallas Cowboys to sign
(45:10):
Dak long term? Because we're talking about sixty million a
year for five years. No, probably one hundred and forty
million guaranteed. No, no, they why not?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well, I throw out the caveat. I need to see
what he does this year. But I don't think we're
gonna do anything different this year, especially on the fact
that we ain't got no real dependable running back to
help him. Really really the pressure, because I'm sorry, Zeke,
you're broken down. You ain't gonna be that guy. Rico Dodo.
(45:50):
You didn't give me enough last year to make me
believe in you.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
No, but U and David Cook, we don't know what
you're gonna right now. You're just the name Dalvin Cook.
But yeah, I don't want I don't want them to resign.
Dak Trey, just sit there, get all the reps you
(46:16):
can and practice so you can prove to them that, Hey,
during the off season, y'all need to look legitimately. Give
me a chance to be the starter next season, or hey, Cowboys,
you can just ship the bed the whole entire season
for me and go after Shador Sanders skulk a.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Shadoor Interesting m hmm, because we don't.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
I don't know about that. Bringing Dian as a coach
I don't know. I don't know about all that. He
can stay at Colorado.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Because I hate the Cowboys. I think there's still a
nine to ten win team this year. Smiles. I know
that does not put you in running to draft shador standers.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I know that's like if they wanted to just go
ahead just ship the bed on purpose.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, no, that's that's rounded upon. So you're okay with
navigating the waters of not knowing who your quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
It's not it's not like we're ever going to make
it for the super Bowl as long as Jerry Jones
is the owner and GM.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Are you really okay with that? You see what the
Patriots are going through right now?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Mm hmm. Like after having a little text message back
and forth with my dad recently about the Cowboys, he
was like, Hey, I've come to the point in my
life where I understand we're never gonna make it to
the super Bowl, and I'm quite fine with it, and
I'm still gonna watch them every week every year.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
You saw what the Bengals went through postcards and Palmer
before Joe Burrow, you saw what the Bears went through
even up until now we think came he's a guy,
But I don't know, you're you really want to live
in those waters of uncertainty at the QB position. I
(48:18):
don't care. It's not because the Smiles is not a
fun place to be, I promise you is not. Well.
Stafford was getting hurt his first couple of seasons, and
we was out there with John Kidna and dan Orlowski.
It was not fun.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Being a Cowboys fan is not fun, Okay, So you
just just just go ahead, give me these these years
of even further mediocrity or just doom and gloom. Just
give to me now, just because I don't even see
who would pick up that.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
So I don't know, you don't see who would pick
up Dak.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Like who wou really want them to be? The like,
I don't know, unless it's like the team I really
don't care about and don't want watch it. Probably one
of them type of teams.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
The Raiders, yep.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
I don't like them.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
The Raiders, The Giants.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, I really don't care about, because the enemy.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
The Panthers, depending on like what this season looks like
with Bryance trying to think who else?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, all teams I want to care about watching.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Ahead, pretend y'all get nothing for a top fifteen quarterback,
and you're depending on Trey Lance. Trey Lance, and then
Kyle Shanahan gave up on Yea, And I know he
has his own track record with black quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
But that's why I say, just go ahead, just shift
the bed.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
They're not gonna willingly little smiles. That is a that
is a fan only fallacy, that you're gonna get a
group of fifty two guys out there and they're just
gonna willingly try to lose a game. Not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Hey, Hey, hey, hey, michaeh is your leg hurting? Do
you feel like you need to miss? Like four weeks?
We got you in that contract is offseason. I got
y'all got you.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
He would still say no. He would still say no.
He wants to play. That's what they're hardwired to play,
the game. Top fifteen quarterback smiles. And you just wouldn't
let him walk dollarteen smile me.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
If we ain't got no other options, of course you
gotta do it, because then you use him as a
bargainship or trade him.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
But well, no you can't. He has no trade clause.
Last deal they signed with Dak said no more, no
more what you call no trade clause and no more
franchise tag. So either long term deal or he walks
(51:11):
for nothing.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Damn See, I ain't know about the no trade cause thing.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
So then you lose a top fifteen quarterback for nothing.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Or be stuck with him and continue with this mediocrity.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Is he really the problem?
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Not all the way? That's that GM of ours, that
that guy that you calls all the shots who he says,
there's no better fucking owner GM than me and the mom.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
So then if he's not the problem, why let him
walk to then create another problem, like you can't overcome
your problem of not having a running game and your
GM making really weird deals like you and never.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Going after anybody in the offseason and never going after
anybody doing doing free agency, never and.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
The people let money free agency. Why would you let
your top fifteen quarterback go if you know you're not
gonna go get another one.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
That's even more reasonable, Get these fans to hopefully be
like Jerry step down leave. We're revolting these these these
cowboys fans. They're not gonna do it. They need to,
They're not to, They're not But they need to come on, like,
just revote, don't stop letting us be the number one
(52:44):
franchise in all of sports, because y'all just want to
continue for money into this man's pockets, and this is
what we keep getting year after year after year.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
So it sounded like to me that you guys probably
just keep that.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah, yeah, because either way, you know, I'm gonna watch
every week either way and then smiles.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
You can you can be mediocre and like get yourself
some hope every so often. Being terrible isn't fun, Like
it's I promise you, it's worse. I've been there, been
there for a long fucking time. It's way worse.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
I remember last year year at Tumble, like yo, I
will fucking cry as the Cowboys go to I mean,
if the Lions go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
I cried after each one of their playoff wins. I
cried when we locked up the division on Christmas Day.
My four year old niece had never seen me cry before,
and she said, Uncle Aaron, what's wrong? I said nothing.
I've just never been this happy in my entire life.
I've never my higher fucking life.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, and I know like each time, like y'all had
like the different shirts or whatever that y'are dropping. Lowe
was like sending pictures to the group chat like Copps,
like five seconds after
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