Heel Turn

John is back!!! and the heel turn of the century is on!!! NBA free agency talk, Team USA basketball talk and of course John says something completely insane and reminds you all that he is completely emotionless

Episode Transcript

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I don't let my cousin nothing ofthat. You don't like any of your
famous why you don't go home?See how you're starting today? Welcome to
the Embrace to Turn Up Podcast.Cultural commentary from two guys who want all
the smoke, all the smoke andnow you're hosts A Dub and John John.

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Oh, ladies and gentlemen, welcomeback to the Embrace the turn Up
Podcast. It's your boy, thepod got the pod tribal chief, if
you will. Some people call mea Dub, some people just call me
dub, whatever you call me.Thank you for listening once again and back
on these pod streets is the HomieJonathan, the Hood of Avengerods, Sir,

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the eighty hour work week? Man, How you doing, buddy good
Man? Good busy out here stayingbusy? I see I see you working
like a saving up for that engagementring. I'll see you out here.
Yeah right, I'll be working alot more if if I was doing that,
well it someone got to be like, what is it like two months

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salary? So that's crazy too much? Yeah, that's the number, like
it's supposed to be too much salarybecause like back in the old days,
like if a marriage ended, thewife or the fiance was supposed to like
be able to sell the engagement ringto get money to set aside for herself.

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Because back then, when like engagerings came a thing, women weren't
like working like at all. Solike if you got engaged and then you
know, the streets kept calling yourname, you was like, oh I'm
out. She would keep the ring, sell it for two months salary,
so that way she okay until shefinds her next man to take care of
her. Would you keep the ring? Look, I mean, well,

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why why does the why did theengagement? I feel like that the question.
That's the question, all right,I mean eat that boy back.
Like if I just decide to walkaway, like it's just not working out,
Yeah, it's just not working out, then I might take the l.

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Take the l it's like like fifteentwenty grand or something like that two
month salary. Joh shit, yeah, but get but hold on you what
if I take you? What ifI tell you can take it back and
you can make half your money backon it by pawning it again, depends
on why why things broke down.I don't care what it is. I'm
taking it back taking giving my shipback if you're leaving. But if you're

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leaving her, you can keep it. Yeah. If I'm like amlicably walking
away from this, yeah, youknow what I mean. I might ask,
but I'm not gonna press now again. You know, it's kind of
hard to fathom us because black mendon't cheat. But if I were to
cheat, then you just take thel one. You just take the out.
You know. In some states,In some states it's, uh,

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if she cheats, I need myship back, and I'm whooping you your
brother or first male cousins asked becausesomebody got to catch your l on behalf
of you. In some states,Uh, it's if the engagements called off,
they're supposed to give it back tothe man. No, No,
I don't know how it is inMichigan, Ohio. But give me that

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response, just the case straight tothe pawn shop. You. You're ruthless,
my guy. I need I needthat back. I need that back.
I need all that back too.You're ruthless, my guy. Big
big ass box of stuff taken back. So I'm looking. I'm looking at
our feed here, John. Youhaven't been on it in a while.

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What's going on? Man? Thefeet of the pot. Last let's see
one, two, three, orfive? You haven't been on since May?
Well? What's up? Man?Well, that's a testament. It's
hard work. I'm putting it,you know, in my job. You
know. And another thing too,I got I gottah. You said like

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avoiding people, You're just avoiding thepeople. Love people. Oh what you're
saying? Now? I put somuch hard work, and I got an
executive visit coming up next week,so I'll be very stressed and busy.
What does that meaning? You gotto just drive him around? Or the

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executive gonna take you out to dinnerand take you to the strip club?
Like I questioned the type of executivevisiting it's gonna be. Uh, it's
not like, are you gonna takea recruit and show them a final?
Ohio, canes, caes. That'snot a bad idea. Actually, that's
actually I was thinking about lunch ideas, and Canes wouldn't be a bad one.

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Oh wait, let me ask thisquestion. Who's paying for lunch?
Uh? Their regional manager. I'mnot You got what's more expensive than canes?
Yeah? You gotta you gotta godo a sushi lunch. Sushi lunch.
Yeah, I could tell you bedoing n I L deals and ship
about sushi lunch. You be takingyour prospects to the best places. You

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gotta get the dragon roll. Yougotta get the sushi. Yeah, man,
I could tell you in sports nowtrying to recruit, got it?
You gotta go to a sushi lunchand then you gotta you gotta open up
to where it's a specialty rolls andyou got order from there. You can't.
You can't get noning off the regularnote. I need the specialty rolls

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and I need something then geary aswell. Na, sounds like you've been
practicing rich people paying you gotta price. Price just went up. Canes baby
combos, you know the fucking vibes. Baby, ain't he act? Man?
Canes actually sounds good right now?You ain't you put one on the

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airport? Right? I did seethat they are? Yeah, it's almost
done. Yeah, yeah, manKanes is growing. Canes does sound good.
But no, I've been working somuch that uh yeah, they're coming
coming from corporate to visit me.So oh that's I'm gonna be I'm gonna
be uh pretty busy. But no, I manag's been working Bro, I
ain't been doing nothing working hard outhere, but I don't know if I

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don't I offer you another promotion andthen say here's more work. So that's
corporate America for you. We're gonnawe're gonna promote you, but not change
your pay. They've already did thatonce. That's how corporate America works.
Couldn't be me. You want yourpay huh yeah, run me every single

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fucking penny. I want mine plustax'sprit you to ask about my uh spots,
you to ask you about my nameon the on the chat one in
one BGSU record? Yeah, what'swhat is that? Yeah? Man?
College football? Bro? All day? Go Falcons. Oh you already lost

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the I lost, br I lostto Penn State. Man, Come on,
now, there's nothing I can doagainst Penn State. How many?
How many nil deals? You getyour kids already? I've had a few
scholarships, But Bro, college footballis crazy. I know you don't play
view games like that, but I'min like, and I think that's taking

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on my time too. Is I'min different leagues now, so like you
can sell the leagues amongst your friendsand play like Dynasty mode amongst your friends
and then you'll be able to recruit. You can recruit against your friends.
So like you're working eighty hours aweek and you over here running different a

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multiverse of fucking college football dynasties.Yeah, so in one dynasty. In
one dynasty, I got Michigan.I won my game today, want to
know, shot to Michigan. Andthen I got an offline dynasty, which
is my BGSU dynasty. So formy so dynasty, I play by myself.
I'll have to take up you know, like a one star team and

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build the program up and then hopefullydifferent you know, coaching offers will come
my way. So I decided topick Bowling Green and we're doing okay.
Last game was not you know,what we was looking for out there on
the field, but we're looking toimprove that Penn State game was was difficult,
but uh and I'm sorting you're gonnawatch the film and then get right

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back after. Yeah, we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna yeah, I
got I got to hit the recruitingtrail too. But you know, our
quarterback was a little flustered out there. Uh, he wasn't used to the
environment, so he was he wasa little shaken. So We're gonna,
you know, just clean some thingsup in the in the film room,
film study, and prepare for TexasA and M next week. Wait,

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John, don't your girl live withyou? How do you How do you
have time? I'm confused. Ihave time. Well, I work and
I play the game. That's timeright there. Oh, don't let me
get into recruiting, because you know, recruiting to another monster. So uh,
but you know I'm on the roadat least, you know, for
work. I'm on the road obviouslyall day. And then when I get

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off the road, I got tosend my coaches on the road to recruit
and then I have a game atnight. You gotta get on these digital
roads. Yeah, digital roads.Been busy out here. Oh man,
it's been good man. So nowI'm joining another league too. But for
this podcast, I will update myBGSU record as I go as we I
like it. I like it,and I tell you what, even if
you're not on, I'm gonna I'mgonna have you call and leave me a

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voicemail. What what how your teamis doing? So that way we can
just get weekly updates about how John'sdynasty is doing. Because it's very important
have you have you have you Wellyou don't have the newest system. But
did you know college football was outthe game? John, I work at
nil. Of course I know itwas out. Okay, all right,
my players had it before the Ohyeah you did say that, say that.

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That's all the niggas like Instagram stories. Was was like, just store
is it them? Like? Man, why do they got me rated so
low? Or I saw one playershout out to junior Vander Ross. One
of his buddies was playing, usinghim as like the receiver. He had
that kid twenty four catches, fourhundred yards and three TVs in one game.

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I was like, oh, youjust really want to pad your friends
stats? That is he play forToledo. Yeah, okay, I see
the vision there. I see thevision. Yeah, you're gonna have a
tough go it when you play Toledo. Trust me. Well, I don't
know. I guess some recruits comingthat day, so I gotta perform.
Okay, but Penn State's tough.I'll give to pen State. Shot of
State. Great game, great greatuh atmosphere, great offense. Uh.

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But we're looking forward to Texas Aand M next week. I ain't shit
up about fantastate. I can't believewe started. There can't even a full
shot started. Worried about college football, Yeah, about fake college football,
about video game college football. Man, it's his life. When you're talking
about fake college this ain't fate.This ain't fate. Bro Like no,

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like, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta build your
team right, you gotta recruit right, and then you gotta perform. And
we played well against our The firstweek school we played was a non conference,
you know, just a warm upgame. It was like a practice.
We blew them out, but youknow, we weren't ready to play
for Penn State. But well,the boys raided. For next week,

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you destroy the HBC. Is thatwhat you're saying? Yeah, it was,
Yeah, it was. I thinkthey were worse than I should say
worse, but you get what I'msaying. But I feel good, good
good. How do you feel aboutyour Lakers? What a bottom did they?
Did they make any off season movesthat you know interest you at all?
Besides giving Brownie seven million dollar?You? What's your what's your pistons

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do? And uh, we gaveKate Cunningham a ship, a ton of
money and haven't you been saying onthis pod for two years that he was
gonna leave the second he could wait? Is he? Okay? So the
money they gave was an extension.Yeah, it was the MAX deal.
They gave Ky Cunningham, the NEXdeal. They gave Ky Cunningham five years,

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two hundred and twenty four million dollars, five years and twenty four million
dollars two hundred and twenty four milliondollars. Okay, So let me take
a look. You're gonna see howmany millions he gets pur Pistons win?
Is that? Is that? Whatyou know? He Pistons win. I
just want to see something real quick. Quite a lot. So he took
all he was Let's see, sohe only played twelve He only played twelve

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games in twenty twenty two, correct, and then played sixty two and twenty
twenty three correct and averaged twenty twopoints seven assists. And this is the
man y'all gave how much five yearsto earn twenty four million dollars? Think
he's worth it? Here's the thing, John, If we waited and he
had another great season and then madesome All Star or All nbaighteen, okay,

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all right, dubs. He ain't. No, he ain't making an
All Star team. Don't don't dothat. He's not making All NBA,
nothing, nothing. What what'd yougotta say? Look, look, I'm
not saying you make first team AllNBA. Second, he can make a
third, that's the thing. Butif he does, then that number goes
up a lot. So you gethim now at the two twenty four.

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Because here's another thing, John,In two years, the CAP's going up
a lot too, So that's gonnalook like a fucking bargain. Okay,
Well I'm about to I know youhaven't been listening to the post and you've
been off, but John, whereabout two or three years away from eighty
million dollars a year in deals whereSGA gets his extension eighty million a year

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for five years. You just keeptalking, I'm gonna put some of it's
gonna shut you down. Eighty milliona year, So I'm gonna put something
we can get k at Like,what's that five years? Okay, so
look for this five a year.Okay, Hold on, second, you
said NBA thirteen. So just thispast year, NBA thirteen was Lebron James,
Steph Curry, Devin Booker Sabonas andTyrese Halliburton's K Cunningham better than any

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of those guys in that list.No, but two of them gonna be
there in three years or two years. You just said, you just said
next year. Yeah, but Lebroncan fall off a cliff. Lets be
real, Oh, the same Lebronthat beat South Sudan, the same Lebron
today. Hold On, hold onSouth Sudan. Hold on one point.
Hold On who scored that one pointfor the for for Johnny who South Sudan

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is the youngest country scored the world. Who scored the point, Who scored
the game winning basket? Who scored? Okay, hold on, let me
say this real quick. Lebron scoredthe game winning basket against South Sudan.
That's the first part. The secondpart is today the Lakers were down to
Germany. Lebron scored eleven straight tobeat Germany today. So I don't you

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keep talking concerned it all that theywas down eleven in Germany. You're not.
Okay, you're not. You're notwhat German players in the league.
Okay, so you look it inthe league anymore. So you're looking at
like one aspect of it. You'renot looking at the end result. That's
what I'm getting. At Lebron elevenstraight points to beat Germany. Lebron game,

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win the basket against South Sudan.So he ain't falling off. No,
Cliff Kay's contract is cheap right nowcompared to what it could be if
he has a breakout year. That'sall I'm saying. Kate didn't break out
year. Don't go don't go together. I'm sorry to tell you that.
Oh now now you hate now youhate on k because he extended his contract.

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Is that what it is? Who'syour coach? Who's your coach?
JB. Bickerstaff Exactly, it's thecoach. Who's your coach? The next
pat Rally? That's what they calledhim, the next young pat Rally?
What did you call him? Imean, I say he? I mean,
you know, it is what itis. You gotta believe in your
team. Man. A your onthe screen says, do you believe?

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I do. I think the Lakerswill win between forty eight to fifty two
games this year and they will makeit to the Western Conference finals. There's
my Should they make another run atat your at Brody, at at Westbrook.
He's gonna be He's gonna be freepretty soon. In Westbrook on the
Clippers, No, where the fuckyou? You man, you work too

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much, John, Yeah, Ithought he got I thought he's with the
Clippers, all right, So breakingnews to anyone who works as much as
John John. Russell Westbrook was tradedto the Utah Jazz for Chris Dunn and
a second round pick. Chris Dunstonin the league. I said the same
exactly, Chris Dunne from Duke yeswow. In further news. Further news,

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the Utah Jazz planning to buy RussellWestbrook out of his contract to make
him a free agent. The prevailingrumor is he's gonna go join the Nuggets
and do what play basketball? Nuggets. No, he's no, Nuggets don't
need him. Well you gotta youknow you know what pieces that? Yeah,
champions. I hope the Nuggets takehim, please, Nuggets take him,

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please? Please? Even whin RussellRussell date still beat the Lakers in
four No, okay, So Idon't know. I don't know if you
remember what happened last year in theplayoffs, the Lakers were up the Lakers
every game. Lakers were up everygame by double cool every game? Hey,
John, what was the final result? Was the final result? I
got? I mean they got swept. But you gotta get there, right,

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you gotta get there. Y'all didn'teven get there. Why are you
bringing it back to the Pistons becauseyou're talking about my team? So your
team, right, they can't evenget to play. But you you talking
about how your Lakers can beat theNuggets. What was your record last year?
We won like fifteen games exactly,talking about y'alling the Nuggets. Nuggets.

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We're talking about y'all in the Nuggs. So you're telling me they add
this talent that is Russell Westbrook toleader second unit. Wow, this talent?
Okay, this talent, he's nota talent. He's not he's a
talent. So he's a talent.Now, yeah, he's a talent.
Oh so he's a good back.Wait, hold on, you say he's

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not a good basketball player, buthe's a talent. Oh, never been
a good basketball player, but he'sa talent. Yeah that is? That
isn't all? Right? John?How many times would you have punch Russell
Westbrook if you played one season withhim that Lakers at that Lakers tenure,
Bro it would have been at thatOklahoma City tenure. Boy he was running
that team, was he not?Yeah, but still it didn't make much

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sense. His worst time was whenhe was in La I ain't never seen
nothing like that. He was airballingeverything, shooting it hard at the backboard,
like he was doing some crazy shipfor the Lakers. And then for
some reason he found himself when he'swith the Clippers, which I thought he
would stay there, but he goesto the Nuggets. I hope they pick
him up. I pray they pickhim up. You don't want the Lakers

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to go get him? Why?Okay, you want me to see the
Lakers highlights he had? I gottasay, I've seen him. Okay,
it's great, Lakers are done,with Lakers done Westbrook. Well they gonna
well, the Lakers gonna need somebodyto be on the second, you know,
with bronni Right. Well, soI don't know if you I don't
know if you know this, butuh, Bronie's gonna see the court maybe

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a few times throughout the year,and he's getting sent down the league.
NBA is gonna be like, yeah, we want to see this historical moment
of lebron and his son on thecourt, and after that historical moment,
it's just getting sent down to GLeague. So you're gonna play the season
opener and then he's yeah, thenhe's going down to G League and he'll
probably pop back up throughout the season, but he'll play one game with his

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dad. You won't see him nomore after that. I think he'll be
better than the Honis. Yeah,what's okay? What's up with asking for
a trade? Boy? Boy,that nigga got some nerve? Yeah,
yeah, like that's for a tradelike he like he a big time player
on the team. It's hilarious.Yeah, it's funny. So so since

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you think we go to the Lakers, would y'all y'all trade to pick barm
Why? Why would Why would theLakers? Wanta's so we got, we
got Briannie. I'd rather have Westwoodthan Theiana's. No, if you get
the Nasis, then you get youget at some point, that's how you
think it goes. Well, Jefftea to play terrible when his brother wasn't

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there. I did see that clipon Twitter. Yeah, I did see
that. Is Jeff Tige like ishe like the LeVar Burton of the NBA,
like reading Rainbow that Nigga's funny.It should be his ship is pretty
funny, especially tell stories about theNBA like all that, especially his stories
and ship in the world, especiallywhen he be talking about how he used

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to get cooked out there by Stephor whatnot, and the stories of pretty
funny. So so, since Westbrookshas a talent, would you take one
of the Pistons. Dear God,he's a talent. You said, Yeah,
y'all need talent. That's what y'all. Y'all are absent of talent.
Bro y'all have no talent Westbrook becauseyou're talking ship like like like your team

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is better than mine, your teamonly want fourteen games. I'm not talking
ship like my teams. I'm justtalking about the way is that you're talking
about my team, but your team. You need to focus on your team
because y'all even make the playoffs.How well the last time y'all made the
playoffs it's been a minute exactly,And but you want to talk about my
team. Yeah, at least Iknow my team making the playoffs this year.
Sure, your team's not sure.Ever since the Lakers, ever since

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le Brin Ben Lakers what wasn't theyfighting for that playing spot? But did
we make the playoffs? Yeah,so you thank you fighting for playing spot
with a rookie had coach. We'renot fighting for a playing spot this year.
I said, we're wunning fifty gamesthis year. What what changes did
the Lakers make that they're gonna winfifty games? We're winning fifty games this
year. We're winning fifty games.I mean, what did did Anthony Davis

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gonna get themselves in his knees?And like, I don't know if he
knows. Anthony Davis played the mostgames he's ever played a Laker last year.
No, I like, seventy somegames last year. Seven. I
don't know about that. Seems kindof high. He played seventy. Let
me see it seems you know,it seems kind of high that that check
y'all gave a guy that's not proven. That seems kind of high. The
Lakers won forty seven games last year, so they should they could be forty

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seven to fifty this year. I'mtaking then, who did you asked me
about? Or Anthony Davis? I'mtaking the under Anthony Davis play. Oh
oh no, yeah, he playedseventy. He played seventy six games this
year or last year, damn,and they still almost missed the play in
Buddy, Buddy, does your teameven know what the playing is? One

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of less time y'all played in anythingcrody like crody, good God, how
y'all fire, how y'all ruined aman like what's your old coach's name?
Monty? Monty? We ain't ruinthat nigga. That nigga ruined himself.
He proved that he's not actually agood couch for real. So JB bigger
stack gonna be better? Your teamis trash, you can't. He did

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go with that cass team who gottoo tall man that ain't big man and
two point guards that you guys reallydo the exact same fucking thing. You
guys gonna have the same record thisyear a y'all had last year. Sorry
tell you that, maybe y'all maywin two more games. So sixteen,
okay, I'll take the over onthat one. How much people? And
down? What's up? Did y'allwin sixteen? Did y'all six? I

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gotta quick fifty said we win morethan fifty. I gotta think about that
one. I gotta see what Vegassays, first, before I take that
back, all right, I justjust wondering, I don't I don't think
y'all gonna win that many games.Then y'all go on like a record like
twenty games and stream talk about yore. What's up? I just thought about

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that, y'all. Y'all will onthe record, y'all lost like twenty plus
games in a row. Bro,that's shit crazy. Nobody want to lose.
Nobody want to lose to the Pistons. At that point, niggas was
praying they didn't lose to the Pistols. Put the fifty yup. I'm thinking
about it. Twenty straight games,that's crazy. Yeah, that's a record.
You're scared y'all lost a record amountof games in a row. Scared?

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Put the fifth yep, that's funny. That's you hurt. I understand
you hurt, and you want meto be hurt too, But it just
it just don't happens that my team, my team will be, My team
will make the playoffs and yours won't. That's that's what it comes down to.
I don't want you to be yousay, to get back to being
who you are, and that isthe man who hates the leader of his
basketball team. You can say,you can say playing playing, you can

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say Westbrooks are talent. You cansay, oh, Lebron's getting old.
Oh yeah, you team USA barelybe soft suit in Oh they they beat
they beat Germany. Lebron'sco eleven points. So that's nothing like And then but
your pistons ain't doing ship bro,or you know, we get Kay Cunningham
four years, two hundred million fornothing. That nig ain't doing nothing.
He ain't proved nothing. That niggaset for more than half a year in

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twenty twenty two. He played sixtyfour games in twenty twenty three, and
nigga ain't prove nothing. He holdon, did he win Rookie of the
Year. Did he win Rookie ofthe year. I don't believe. So
okay, thank you. So thenthis nigga ain't did nothing since he been
in the league, Bro, exceptgot he got fat. And then and
then when somebody asked that nigga,when somebody asked that nigga, and you
you want to leave Detroit, thatnigga shook his head say yeah, ain't

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don't want to be there. Imean, you know what if I don't
want to hold on. If Idon't want to be hold on. If
okay, that's cool, I wantget your money. Get your money.
I guarantee though the first sign ofrelief, he gets he out, he
out of there. Detroit is Detroitis one of the great franchises in the
NBA. Is not absolutely absolutely isnot absolutely is not there is absolutely not.

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There's only five franchises with more ringsthan Detroit. How many rings y'all
got three? Three more than twentyother So I know at my rings you
really want to talk about rings?Hornets got Nigga said that was Hornets the
Pelicans, when the Pelicans is anextension team. Well, technically they're the

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old Hornets. But you know,I don't want hear ship bro, especially
when talking about titles. I don'thear anything. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, we're not we're not. You know, we're top three,
but we're not number one, butwe are two, you know what I
mean. So when it comes torings, the Lakers have historically great players.
You can't name one historically great Pistonplayer that that's greater than any Laker.

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Magic Johnson was the greatest point guardever, right, thank you.
And we had Kobe, we hadShack, we had Kareem, we had
the logo nigga, who y'all got? Okay, let's keep going. See
how you gotta be fired up onsome bullshit because you was over here talking
about something. You here talking aboutsome fucking Oh you guys. You guys
made the play in the playing John, really the play in nigga. Make

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a play in nigga at least beconsidered. Get to the temp spot,
nigga, do something. I mean, that's how y'all gonna be in a
couple of years when Lebron leave anda d leave and y'all y'all dependent on
Brown Either, I'll take you.I'll take that bet. I'll take that
bet. Lebron got two years left, what's w what happened in two years?
And we'll put we'll put a hundredon that. I'll take that bet.

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Lakers still be relevant. I ain'tworried at all. What would you
say something? Though? I believeLakers be more relevant than the Pistons.
Nigga. Ain't nobody talking about thePistons no more nobody Hell, even when
y'all win that playoff run back inthat two thousand and four you don't remember
that we beat the Lakers in five. Nigga wain the least time you want

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to title? Oh that was thelast time. When let's say, y'all
want to title? When last timey'all want to title? When the last
time y'all want to title? When? When is the last time y'all want
to title? Thank you? Youcan't even I just want one less?
How y'all want to title? Youknow because you wake every game for that
and you was like everybody. Iwas like, oh, we go through
hull flavors and then y'all lost infive. All right, bet that's the

(28:04):
last how y'all want a title?That's all I got to say about that.
Nigga, I gotta shirt in mycloset. Twenty twenty Champions, Nigga,
I got a shot. I gota shirt in a hoodie in my
closet. One last time Pistons wona title? All right, you sound
like you sound like Luke right now? Luke like, oh, you look
called the cultus won the tie thisyear. Nigga took y'all sixteen years to
win a fucking title. I don'twant to hear nothing I said, sixteen

(28:26):
years win title? The Piston isgonna be even longer. So I don't
want to hear ship. I don'thear nothing Johanna's question, what are you
gonna do when the Lakers are badagain? The Lakers will never be bad
again. I'm not worried about that, though. Those those Swish Parker years
were dark. But Carlos Boozer,you have to be the greatest Laker of
all time on those push Parker teams, and they were still pretty bad.

(28:48):
We have Robert, Robert. Robertdidn't get bad. It won't get It's
only get bad, nigga. Evenif it gets bad. The Lakers will
never lose twenty plus games in therow, nigga, like the Pistons did.
Y'all broke a record. Y'all brokea record. Y'all broke a record.
So I don't want to hear nothing. You started about agent. It's

(29:11):
crazy. I asked you about freeagents. I'm sweat. You aren't crazy.
You need to watch my watches askme about working out. You need
to calm down, sir, Youneed to take I got to stand up,
like hit a blunt or something.Good. God you Jesus Christ.

(29:32):
Good. Now take a breath,I'm good man. All Right, I
have an honest basketball question for you. Are you concerned about teams no nigga
that got Lebron? What the fuck? I'll be worried about Lebron scored the
Okay, that offense doesn't look good. Well, they're not. They're not
hitting their shots. That's the that'sthe problem. Okay. I mean just

(29:56):
just from what I've seen, likethat offense, it doesn't look good.
Like to me, I think Americahas an issue where like they're still treating
USA Basketball like an All Star games. And the problem is like everybody else
has teams that have been together forever, but then they also have like they
don't just have like a you know, a Tony Kukoch who was a good

(30:18):
nigga in the league. They havelike elite players. You know. You
look at that Serbian team that youknow, Yo Kitchen and Luca gonna be
on, Well, hold on theybe they beat Serbia, bro. But
you get what I'm saying, LikeI'm saying like that that team is put
together. You got to top fourNBA players and a bunch of niggas who
have been playing together since it waslike twelve. Well, also, I

(30:41):
will say, when they played thatSerbia team, Nicolea didn't play the whole
game, like you know what Imean. Like so like I imagine Serbia
is saving him for oh yeah,when it's when it's game time, you
know what I mean. Now,yeah, he had probably just got there
from you know, doing some shipwith his horses. He probably STI would
have horseshit on his shoes, honestly, you know, you know, Joker

(31:02):
don't really care about basketball. Now. What's troubling to me is I found
this out today watching ESPN. Isthem niggas in South who dain don't even
have indoor gyms. Bro, theypracticed in the country for like fifteen years,
yes, and the entry in thefucking world. And it took a
Lebron you know, game winning basketto beat them. And then today we

(31:23):
almost lost to Germany, but Lebronscored eleven straight. So it's just like,
where's Anthony Edwards at? I thoughtAnthony Edwards was the man on the
team. Didn't he say that?Didn't Anthony Edwards say they got to playing
around him? Of course he did. He's Anthony Edwards something. Lebron is
the one that's uh you know,yeah, But then when the Olympics start
and Anthony Edwards like, no,y'all really gotta play for me now these
games count. And then you youthink they're really gonna go okay, you

(31:47):
think they're really gonna gook through AnthonyEdwards before Lebron. No, but I
think if they start bringing that ballup, I don't I think Anthony Evers
is gonna say, yeah, Iain't passing this shit. Who you think
is the best player on this teamand we haven't even seen during I was
gonna say, yeah, I meanDurant until Prus proven. Otherwise, Duran's
best player his team unless he's likestill hobbled from the injury. Yeah,

(32:07):
I means Durant mb or Edwards.I feel like it ain't really been doing.
Are you where about Team USA alittle bit? Just because everybody else
is like way better and like itlooks like they have a much better like
offense. Like to me, whatteam Team say is missing is like they're

(32:30):
missing that guy that that glue guythat can play like this international type ball,
the missing mellow you're missing They there'snobody like hold on, there's nobody
that is like taking up what Melowwas for USA basketball and like in the
past couple of Olympics, Like youlook at Melow, he was all over
the stat sheet. He looked likean elite defender for the first time ever

(32:52):
in his life. And no oneelse is like has done that to like
take up that man so that heleft behind. Mela is one of like
he's one of the great like internationalbasketball players for USA. And I think
part of that is like the systemhe played in in college that really led
to Hey, team motherfucking defense,make every other play and like and again,

(33:19):
the international game is not as it'snot as physical, so he knows
how to like play a defense againstpeople who can't be physical, because you
can't be physical against a two threezone. It's not it doesn't help you
out. You know, you can'tthrow your she shoulder into a nigga on
the three point line. It don'tIt won't help you at all. Right,
I think that's what they're missing rightnow. Well, well, and

(33:40):
I don't know who that guy wouldbe in the NBA that they would bring
over, Like, I don't know, maybe they should have let Cooper Flag
on this team. That nigga looklike he keep doing everything, all right,
So this team we got bad.Let's see Devin Booker. The real
truth shooter on this team is StuffCurry. Kevin Durant's not playing right now.

(34:02):
Anthony Edwards is okay, but he'snot like a shooter. Caliburn is
a shooter though. Jason Tatum andDerek White. I don't know, man,
like you think this team gonna wingold, if not gold silver,
but the we should win gold.Every we should win gold to start fucking
sport like anything besides gold is adisappointment. Okay, all right, So

(34:25):
somebody asked me a question at workthe other day. They told me this
team is the best USA team thatwe've ever had, And I told them,
no, do you know, holdon, hold on, well,
hold on, Okay, I toldhim no. I told him the Redeem
Team was the best team we everhad. Now what do you think?
Oh yeah, I was gonna sayit's Redeem Team absolutely. Now do you
think the Redeem Team would beat theDream Team? Yeah? Bard of niggas

(34:47):
on the Dream Team was old asfun? Okay, all right, I
just want to make sure, allright, Yeah, every Redeem team was
ridiculous. And do you know whothe man was on that team? They
go to guys, thank you?And what team do you played for?
Debts Hikers? Thank you? Youknow he almost got trades to the Pistons,
right, hear that story? Idid hear that story? Yes I
did. But guess what. Heended his career as elected and he was

(35:08):
cool with it too. He wasready to come to Detroit. Would he
go Detroit? I'm so glad hedidn't go Detroit because this podcast would be
totally different if you did. Iwouldn't. I wouldn't have been as as
animated as I you know, justwas totally different. You definitely would.
You definitely would have had that Kobeeight eight Piston jersey for twenty four,

(35:30):
every single color what in every throwbackstyle absolutely when it came out, when
new what? Absolutely? Yeah?John, Why is Derek White on this
team? Over Jaylen Brown? JaylenBrown said, I'm not scared of your
resources. Let's be careful out there, type of ship people say before they
get shot. Yeah, but Isaid, you better be careful out there.
Uh, I keep playing with you, young man. You better show

(35:52):
the funk out. You think JaylenBrown should be in this team? If
you're Jaylen Brown or Derek White?Yeah, Well it took Tatum and until
Drew Holliday. Yeah, so ifthere's another guy you take off of that
team, it's the one that justwon finals MVP. Is he really Finals
MVP or a Jason Taytum Tatum hada quiet finals. Okay, so let

(36:13):
me ask you this then, ifTatum, let's say, if Tatum,
Okay, this is this what I'mtrying to say. If Jalen Brown wasn't
on this team, I still thinkJason Tatum could get him to the Eastern
Conference Eastern Conference Finals. I can'tsay the same thing about Jalen Brown.
Now, granted, you know bothof them together is like you know Wonder
twins. You know you need themboth together to accomplish what they accomplished.
But I do believe that they justhad Jason Tatum and know Jalen Brown.

(36:36):
I think they would still make theEastern Conference finals with Jayson Tatum. I
don't think. I think my finalsEastern Conference Finals not not the finals.
I agree with that, but Idon't think they would. I think they'd
be a second round actually with JalenBrown. Nothing I say too. I
feel like Jalen Brown getting the finalsMVP is like Andre Iguodala getting the finals
MVP that one year. That's whyI felt about it. Na nah he

(37:00):
nah, Jaylen Brown earned this finalsMVP. If j had like the mindset
that Jalen Brown has the aggressiveness,then they wouldn't need Jalen Brown. But
that's part of the problem with JasonTatum is he just kind of lets the
game come to him and like like, all right, we need a bucket,

(37:21):
like right now, not a bucketto win the game, we need
a bucket to like stop their youknow, their momentum. He's like,
they can't driven his left hand ubs. I know, hey, look all
right, I'm just nobody. Nobodycalled him more than me. I promise
you that they can't go left orhe can go left, but he goes
left with his right hand. Thatshit crazy you. He's the highest played

(37:43):
player, right, I believe ithis Tatum. Now, Okay, Tatum
signed his extension. Yeah. Ithink it's like six hundred million between the
two of them. It's a lotof money. Yeah, that's a lot
of money between two players. ButI mean he just won the finals with
them, so I don't I don'tthink. I don't think they will repeat
the NBA is right now. Idon't see repeat champion for a long time.

(38:07):
Like I'll tell you this, ifif the Nuggets had made it back
to the finals, the Nuggets wouldhave beat the Celtics. I think it
was just I think for the Celtics, and I'm not gonna knock them.
A lot of people knock them like, oh, you know, everybody they
play was hurt or you know,they get they had an easy road to
the schedule. You gotta play who'sin front of you. You gotta play
who's in front of you. SoI can't I can't knock them for that.

(38:28):
But if the Nuggets had made it, I think they had the right
matchup in the finals this year.But if the Nuggets had made it,
bro I don't think. I don'tthink the Celtics would have won that finals.
It'd been a tough finals, likethey probably wouldn't six or seven games,
but I did the Nuggets would havepulled that off. I agree.
But yeah, and that's an interestingthinking about matchups, like the Nuggets matchup
really badly with Minnesota. They did, they did. It was funny.

(38:51):
I think it was so the GMthat built this Nuggets team is now the
GM of Minnesota Minnesota specifically to beatDenver. But then the problem comes in
of this team is not built atall to handle Boston or they didn't they
didn't play Boston with the Mavericks.I'm sorry, Matt. Yeah, so

(39:13):
yeah, they were not built atall to beat the Mavericks with you know,
two ball handling, crazy ass guards. But then Minnesota's not built to
beat the Celtics either. Oh soI got a hot tape for you.
If the Mavericks had Klay Thompson lastseason, the Mavericks would have won the
title. I like this take.I think they would have won it to

(39:34):
I think they would have won atitle because the biggest issue was, you
know, I received Kyrie was havinghis issues, but the Mavericks had nobody
who could knock down shots. Iknow Clay can knock down some shots like
Tim Hardaway. Tim Hardaway was selfchecked the whole time out there. The
whole time. Tim Hardway was selfchecked. So like, it's just like,
I think, Clay, what'd yousay, he's on the Fiftlands non

(39:58):
Tim Hardaway juniors. Yet i'ven't hadto take this bet. Just getting better
and better that niggas so checked anyway, Harris too surpice, Harris came back.
He should never left. Yeah,yah left the first You should never
left in the first place. Buthey, hey, that man is a
legend at the bank. You knowhow many also our parents as he has

(40:20):
uh no zero, I mean allyou know what I mean all NBA teams
he has is zero two zero.You meantimes he's been out of the second
round of the Playoffs's what are yougetting at zero? You know how much
money he's made in his career therefifty million dollars if not one accolade to
show for it. So there ishope of Brownie, That's what you're trying

(40:43):
to say. So bagas I'm saying, John, you should have worked harder.
Well if I could, If Icould have got an nil deal from
waffle House, with the waffle Housesleep, I would have. I would
I would have. I would have. I would have played better. Here's
what for you? So putting uptwenty and twenty with this great biscus and
gravy all star breakfast for everybody,absolutely, coach, But coach, I

(41:07):
just need some hash fround smother CaptainCountry. That's all I need. I
promise you I promise you, coach, I promise you got twenty at night.
So I just up that Vegas,Vegas has Vegas has the Pistons at
twenty five and a half wins.So yeah, like I said, I'm
taking over. I'm taking the oversixteen that you put there. I don't

(41:29):
know Vegas is too. So yougo ahead back under with Vegas. You
bet fifty with me, and youknow you'd be out one hundred bucks.
Yeah, that means I gotta workwork at another extra like extra the next
two months, man, to makethat money back. No, don't,
No, nope, John, don't. Lot of these people. Don't lie
to these people. You make makingit out here, man. I mean,
I'm athletic director now for two schools, So like I just I'm busy.

(41:53):
I'm busy. That's funny. Yourathletic director for two schools and you
work for damn song. You gotit. I'm busy, Bro't that's funny.
That is funny. John. Didyou listen to the new Big Seawan
single? Yeah, there's a newsingle. Yeah, it came out on
Friday. I I me neither.I didn't know he had a new single.

(42:17):
Totally forgot to cut it. OnToday, John, You think Shawn
is frustrated by like his rollout,just being stumped all over by this Kendrick
Lamar Drake b. I'm trying tosee I can find a single thing.
It's called it's called Yeah, it'snot even one here. Let's see those
type big Sean swelled, big Sean, right boy, it's called Yes.

(42:38):
I'm sorry, Oh, yes,okay you No, I didn't. I
didn't know he had a new one. I'm kind of worried about Sean though,
because you know, people are speculatingKendrick Lamers dropping in August, like
August eighth or ninth or something likethat, and I see Sean announce that
he's dropping August ninth or eight,some kind of worry. Yeah, Sean
might want to call him and say, Yore, you're dropping in August because

(43:02):
you stepped on my whole summing rollout. If so, Sean should just either
like drop before or after, orjust waits on next year, or just
you know, keep the songs,keep the songs in the hooks. But
any like versus you got that mightseem timely, just like redo those like
they say Kendrick did, or notlike us you you will find a way

(43:22):
to bring back to Kendrick Martin atBeef the Beef, you said he swept
Drake here. Anyways, Uh,I'm excited if he Wait do you say
clean? Sweet? Okay, I'mexcited about Sean though, like I'm not
me and you talked about this before. I think Sean is overlooked, which
is probably something that he you know, he likes, you know, because

(43:44):
he's not really you know, hejust does it for the music, right
he's now you're trying to be famous. According to Kendrick, you gonna keep
doing this only you like being famous. Can't get you know, swagneated.
I don't give a funk, butwho you hang with? All right?
Yeah? But but but you werefor You root for a guy that think
he the black talk dress. Youroot for a guy that thinks he's a

(44:07):
black messiah trying to wipe up amixed queen like that doesn't make sense.
Those two things don't go together.But anyways, I saw you rocking out
when they played not like your man's. Your man's is still rapping. Your
man's is still rapping. Like he'strying to free the slaves, bro,
the slaves. He's trying to freethe slaves. Bro, your man man

(44:29):
is your man's is rapping like he'strying to do. I need right now,
free the slaves, brol has.Right now, we've been free for
four that we were slaves for fourhundred years. I'm sorry. We are
free now, and that nigga isstill rapping like he's still trying to free
him. Bro, nobody call hasright now and ask how you was your

(44:49):
man's not like your man's is rappinglike he's still trying to free the slaves.
I don't want to hear nothing nothing. He's a woman beater and he
does it to the fi himself becausehis his queen is taller than him.
We know this. Are you abig stepper with are you a big stepper
with? You know? Was itsize seven? Size eight shoes? On?

(45:10):
How are you a big We're gonnapost a video you crip walking and
out like us? How? How? How how you okay? So hold
on, so hold on so him, so hold on? So him beating
his woman justified because he's smaller thanher, that's just fine? Hold on?
Is that is that just? Isit justified for your man's to hit
his woman because he's smaller than her. That's how defense. That's defense.

(45:34):
That's some defense. Answering that questionthey got. Yeah, crips, because
you've got to answer, you know, so hold on. So we we
obviously had podcasts with you in awhile, but you've been very argumented today.
You know, I've been argument thewhole the whole pot. Yeah,
you were coming to me with apitchfork all day, man, Like,
I know you missed me, butJesus Christ, you be talking because you

(45:58):
say you be talking some bulls shit, talking about clean sweet, talking about
the Lakers barely made the playoffs tothe play and like, what are you
talking about it? Want to cleanit? Wanted it went a clean sweet.
You gotta suck out your man beardrop and give me fifty you know
what I mean? Come on,man, he did in the music video

(46:20):
video is great too. Yeah,you gotta stop being so one sided,
one sided. Stop stop saying shipthat Khalil texts you you think I do
you think Khalil text me them talkingpoints? I think Khalil texts You said
wiped up, one sid one sided. You are one sided. I don't
even nobody to text me tell methat you are one sided. That nigga

(46:45):
Drake got two songs off on Kendricktoo. Bro. I'm not I sat
here. I say two and ahalf he got. He got two and
a half off on Kendrick, Bro, because that uh what was the other
one was called truth hurts or whenhe did the AI ship when he wrote
all the verses. Bro, that'stwo and a half, Bro, I
don't hear nothing. And then atlast one that came out, don't want
a timestam Drake. If you actuallylisten to what that nigga was saying,

(47:07):
he was killing Kendrick, so thatmaybe three. He just talked me into
it. That's three. You gotthree tracks against Kendrick. The only reason
why niggas saying Kendrick because he gotus on. Everybody could dance too,
Bro, that's the only thing younigga. You ain't got me on takee
dancing nothing, nigga ynig't gonna bedancing nothing. Yeah, all right,
all right, all right, allright, Black Massie wiping up a mixed

(47:28):
queen, nigga, what right that'slike? That's like that's like doctor Umar
going out there to get a mixedqueen. It's not that that'll make no
sense that'll make no sense. That'syour man's got it. You got it.
But John, you was definitely dancingto that song. Nigga out here,
nigga out here, rapping like heon roots or something. I get
the fuck out here that ship,bro, Nobody want to hear that.

(47:51):
We've been free for years. Bro, it's time to move it's trying to
move on, you know what Imean? You? Okay, who hurts
you? You started this? It'sabout clean sweep. You were talking about
so were having a good adult conversationand then you're gonna say, undereath your
breath, clean sweep. It wasn'tclean sweep. You can't tell me no
lyric off. Meet the Grahams.You can't tell me no lyric off,
Meet the Grahams. You look,you're a rap rad all right now,

(48:13):
trying to read lyrics. Don't dothat, Okay, look a look down,
go ahead, lyric for what wasDrake's mom name? Oh sonya?
Your son is sick? I thinkpeople like him should die? What up?
What do you need? What elsedo you need? Talk to that
man's mom and said, I thinkpeople like your son should die. That's
that's that's violent, and that's athreat. No, it's not saying I

(48:35):
want to kill him. He justsaid I think he I think I think
he should die. That's a threat. It's not done. It's just a
thought. I think you should die. It's just a threat. I mean,
just a thought. You niggas arenot welcome in Toronto ever again.
White then school Boy Q contract gotcanceled. Drake said, no, nigga,
you ain't coming in here. Youknow what I mean. You're not
coming here? Okay, yeah,Rick Ross, this is what happens when

(48:58):
you show up to Toronto talking thatship, playing like us. That's what
this is what happened, yo,Your DJ get beat up. Nigga.
You can't go either, niggas.It's a clean sweet you talking about the
clean, clean sweet. I can'tyou know what. I cannot wait.
I cannot wait to Drake double back. I can't wait till heat double back.
I cannot wait. It's an endfor y'all. Right, that nigga

(49:22):
Drake, that nigga Drake one hitaway, That nigga Drake one hit away
from. Nobody even mentioned the beefever again. He might take a few
years. I he gonna go backwatch. I hope he does it's over
for Kendrick. He might take timeoff the way m did, what was
going through his rehab. I heardthat kid is day free. How feel
about that? How you feel aboutthat? Jo White nigg Kendrick hiding his

(49:46):
kids the only time we hold on? Hold on, So Drake, this
is what Drake did. Dre said, don't go back to your hood playing
on money trees, bro. Thisis what Drake did. Drake made Kendrick
become a good dad, a goodfather because he only showed his kids.
That's first point. It's like thepoint is now Kendrick out and Compton,
you know, speaking at high schoolgraduations, playing money trees everywhere in Compton.

(50:07):
Drake is making Kendrick a better person. Really, you tell me hold
on? So you're telling me holdon. You're telling me that I've been
talking to Khalil that that you're trying. That's that's you're talking. You're going
for pro wrestling on me. You'vebeen watching wrestling long enough that you see
you're deflecting. You're deflecting because youknow you're deflecting, because you know I'm

(50:31):
right. I get you're deflecting becausethe rock you'ry like the Rock be like
different, a different version of you. Is that what you're doing? It's
your heel turnot is your heel turnI got it. No, that's cool,
I got like. But you're theboy. You should you should know.
You should know that. You shouldknow that you should be thinking Drake
right now because because because you're aKendrick fan fan, and Drake brought out

(50:54):
Kendrick bru, so you should bethinking Drake. You should be thinking Drake,
and Drake make Kendrick a better person, so Kendrick should be taking Drake.
Hell, we all should be thinkingDrake. Thank you, Drake.
I'll say it for you. Youdon't have to thank you Drake. I
like this, He'll turn I likeit. I like it. You like
the butcher at the end of theend of season for the Boys? I

(51:15):
get it? Yo, that wasgreat, wasn't it great? The Boys?
Is the Boys? Is now?I heard it? Tomorrow they want
to make season five into a movie. Would you be down for that?
No? Fuck that? You want? You want episodes? I want episodes?
Okay, movies are only two hours. I want you nigga fit,

(51:35):
I want my What if I toldyou We'll give you four episodes? In
a movie. Now we're talking.Okay, yeah, now they talk,
So John, I got I gotsomething to say, and I know you're
gonna make fun of me. Allright, let's hear it. When Comico
started screaming no, when they tookFrendshie away, yeah, I almost cried

(51:59):
because we haven't heard of in fourseasons at all. We haven't heard at
all at all. So you know, she was in pain, and she
said, what are you crying about? Because it was it just it was
you know me, I'm a suckerfor good storytelling and for a moment like
that, because like, to bepsychologically mute means something so dramatic happened to

(52:20):
you that you can't speak anymore.Correct, So then for the opposite to
happen. Thinking about it, forreal, doves, come on, now,
what you didn't get choked up atall? Well, first I didn't
even realize. Obviously I knew shewas mute. Obviously, I know that
she was mute the whole, youknow, the whole the boys seasons.
But when she was screaming no,it didn't even dawn on me at first

(52:44):
that she was screaming though. Iwas just like, I was like,
oh no, they're gonna kill Frenchy. That's the first thing he came on
my ether. They don't kill FrenchieBecause I know that girl. She has
the power to make you do whatevershe tells you to do, right,
So I thought she was gonna tellinglike, you know, walk off the
cliff or you know whatever. Butthen like once you started walking to the
truck, I was like, holdon, oh ship, she's talking.

(53:05):
Then at Donomie she was screaming no, and I was like, damn,
she must really be a pain becauseobviously, like you said, she went
through something so traumatic when she wasa kid that she started talking and that
ain't That didn't choke you up atall, No, Doug, nothing,
nothing chokes me up, bro,I don't get emotional. Nigga. You
cry when a nigga won a titlelike that? Shit's crazy to me.
That sho don't make no sense tome. Are you talking about you know,

(53:29):
Cody Roads no coffee? Oh yeah, yeah, you start choking on
that nigga on the title. Thatdon't make sense to me, Like,
I don't know, I'm not crywhen Coffee on the title. I've never
watched. I cried when Cody Roadson the title, Why You're a Cody
cry baby? But again, it'sabout the story. John. They finished

(53:52):
the story and they finished it.Okay, we all knew that he was
gonna win the title. Everybody knewthat. So what you crab about?
But what do you crawd about?If you know the moment happened? Is
still no, if you know it'sgonna happen, why you crying? I
don't. If I know something's goingto happen, that's traumatic emotional. I
won't cry because I know it's gonnahappen. That just made sense. I
rather something happened, well, John, Okay, so all right, Game

(54:15):
five of the two thousand and fourfinals. I knew we were gonna win
and win that title. You didn'tknow. You know, you didn't cry?
You did not know you I wasgoing that. No, you didn't,
absolutely no, you didn't know.You didn't know, you didn't,
So so do nothing get you chalkedup at all? No, I've never
seen now I'm not talking about justlike in life, but like when it
comes to like pop culture, I'venever seen anything pop culture period, deem

(54:37):
pop culture that made me want tocry. What about when Goku went super?
Said? I mean I was ata loss for words, but that
it made me cry. Yeah,I was like, oh, shit's hitting
another like a higher power, LikeI couldn't believe it. But I didn't
cry. You cried because the niggatransformed and got blond hair because I had
seen it in the Japanese version,but I didn't know what was happening.

(55:00):
I'm trying to think, what aboutwhen lu Luke sky Will showed up at
the end of season of Mandalorian thatwas unexpected. See, there's there's difference
between being did you watch Acolyte?I haven't finished it yet. I think
I got two episodes love trying tothink you're like Acolyte. You know,
if you told me you cried itthat in the Acolyte, that be forgivable.

(55:22):
Uh well it wouldn't be forgivable,but I believe it because you cried.
You cried during the Boys. Now, I don't think i've ever I
don't think I've ever came close toshutting the tier. Oh yeah, there
was one time. Actually remember thatyear when Michigan was playing Michigan State and
it was gonna be Hardball's first timebeing Michigan State, and the dude did

(55:42):
the rugby kick? You remember thatgame? Okay that I think almost cried
an anger. I was so frustrated. Okay, well wait, speaking of
sports, So Lions like up thedivision Christmas Day. That's that's what you
believe. No, that's what happened. Remember they played on Christmas the division?
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, because

(56:02):
you text me that's right. Didyou cry that? No? Because it
was I was more cheery. Iwas more cheerful than anything. It was
the Vikings, but I was moreuh the Vikings without Kirk Cousins, and
we should have had that game lockedup in the first quarter, but the
Lions decided to be the Lions andcampsun and decided to let Justin Jefferson wrong
over the fucking place so bad wedon't have Camp Sun this I mean,

(56:29):
so that that's That's the last timeI feel like I was gonna cry.
Was that Michigan Michigan State game aboutfrom wait a minute, no, well
that was more anger too that timewith me and you went to go watch
your house state game together and itwasn't a fourth down and you just thrown
up the bar without saying or anything. You stored out the bar and I'll
saying by or anything. I wasjust I didn't cry. I didn't got

(56:52):
that, Like who does that?Like who just living? Who just gets
up, gets up from the bar, just leaves, Like but I'm saying
anything. I didn't have words Iwas. I was like Comiko. I
was like Comiko. I was likeI was psychologically mute. I couldn't speak,
I didn't have words. I wasinfuriated. That's funny. I wanted

(57:13):
to drive to wherever that game wasand give somebody some hands, like the
ref. I couldn't believe they gavehim that that extra inch or whatever that
was. And I knew if Istayed in that bar, the first person
to say something to me was gonnaget hands. I just I just did
the most responsible thing I could doand remove myself from the situation. And
I just said, in my mind, you didn't even complete darkness. You
didn't even go out that night.Yeah, I say I didn't go out

(57:36):
that night either, though, I'ma complete darkness and was like, I'm
not talking to nobody, I'm notwatching ESPN for the next week. No
nothing, Damn. We came along way. Michigan has man has come
a long way. I didn't whenMichigan won the title. I didn't cry
during that because I went into thatgame thinking like Michigan's a better team in

(57:58):
Washington, Like I already knew that. So it's just like I knew we're
gonna win that game. Uh,I don't know. I think I cried
a little in that game. Ithink I cried and started crying that game,
Like once we really started beating onMichael Pennix, I was like,
we think that boy has the title. So like by the time we by
the time we got like the trophy, all the tears were gone because like

(58:19):
it was a foegone conclusion and italmost got to the point where I just
started feeling bad for Michael Pennix.I was like, get him out of
there. And so that reaction tothat same reaction you had, oh,
that I had during the rugby kickgame He's Michigan State where it was just
just complete anger where I was aboutto cry. I had that same feeling
Lions last year we played the uhfor because we should have been the super

(58:45):
Bowl. That was frustration that Ididn't cry at the end of that one.
I was like that so frustrated butI think we got just to get
of a chance this year because wegot between the corners we got, we
got at least one good one,and I feel like we had one good
one last year. We'd have wonthe Super Bowl. Well, I think,
well, if Renalds would have caughtone of those fourth downs, bro,

(59:07):
he ain't just catch one, justcatch one, we would have won
that game. Stupid. I'm gettingfrustrated again, like if Cam Sutton could
stay in front of debo once onthat game. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Like, that's whatI think. We had three bad corners
and we were one half away.And I do and people ask me this

(59:27):
all the time. I do thinkthe Lions would have beat the Chiefs.
We would have beat the breaks becausewell, granted what all Travis Kelsey we
did. But what I'm getting atis the forty nine ers was given the
Chiefs a game and we were wewere up twenty to three against the forty
nine ers, So logically the Lionswould have beat the breaks off the Chiefs.
We would have we would, ohmy god. So everybody told me.

(59:50):
Everybody's like, yeah, the Lionswould go fifty against the Chiefs team
they would have the Chiefs could notstop the run. Forty nine ers runner
all over the field. Now imaginethat was Montgomery and excuse me, Gibbs.
Yes, imagine that Montgomery and Gibbswould have been a d been.
It would have been a national championshipall over again. Yep, like we're

(01:00:10):
we're gonna go out there and doit or we want and there's not dancing
they can do about it. Butagain, like I said, I still
feel confident in this year. Ithink it's gonna be tough. I think
it's gonna be tough this year becauseeverybody know the Lions is good, so
then a little bit tough. Everybodyknows we're coming. But like they you
o pause, yeah, pause.But then like on the same token,
you're like, but what can youreally do about it? Now? Like

(01:00:32):
we have we have a top fivetight end, We have arguably a top
four receiving corps, Like we havea top ten QB. Like yeah,
you you didn't know, you knowwhat you went for last year and you
know you got called by surprise,but now you know, But still what
can you do about it? Youthink we beat the Packers this year because

(01:00:55):
we didn't beat them last year.I think we split with them this year.
I think when we played him onI think when we played him on
Thanksgiving, we were feeling ourselves alittle too much and that was the reality
check we needed to get us throughthe rest of the season. Yeah,
I think we split with him thisyear. But okay, I mean,
who mean we were going on this? So I'm kind of hoping that you

(01:01:16):
know, they don't want to payJordan Love that money. He just hold
out and then you know, missesoff training camp and gets off to a
horrible start, swing out, worryabout him at all? The McCarthy's gonna
be any good. I don't know, Like when you so, here's the
thing about j J. To me, like when called upon, he looked
great. But the thing was hewasn't called upon a lot. So we

(01:01:37):
don't know when you put like whenyou put the ball in his hand and
say, yo, if we neededto toss it thirty times today, and
like, you know, he mightbe able good good to do it once?
Can he do it ten times?You know what I'm saying. Well,
Also, JJ was on one ofthe best teams in college football,
so like he knew that obviously hedidn't make a lot of mistakes, but

(01:02:00):
it's great that you have a tiprunning back, you have a tip receiver,
like top slot receiver, and thenyou know if you do make a
mistake. We had one of thetop three defenses in the league. So
like you hate JJ head that thelean on Minnesota is not that. Yeah,
like he he doesn't. He doesn'thave all that confidence that you know,
not confidence that town around him thathe can like have that extra confidence.

(01:02:24):
Hey, I can go throw outthree picks against Bowling fucking Green and
we're gonna be all right. Yeah, the NFL, if you throw three
picks against the Atlanta Falcons, they'llfigure in the fuck out he's starting,
right because Kirk Cousins and Kirk Cousinswith the Falcons, right, Kirk Cousins
in Atlanta. Yeah, JJ gonnastart. They one. So we got

(01:02:45):
two rookie quarterbacks. Who think whoyou thinking? Okay, So obviously we've
seen Jordan Love who I think he'sgonna be phenomenal in our division. You
think who thinks gonna better? KaylebWilliams and JJ I think be better?
Okay, I think he's I thinkit's built for this moment. I do
so here, I think Caleb isgonna be the better player. I think

(01:03:05):
first year JJ is probably gonna likehave the better stats because he's gonna be
throwing to Justin fucking Jefferson Hopkinson.Uh who was who was calem throwing to
Cole Kamt and DJ more both good? Well? Yeah, yeah, I
think he's got a receiver, doesn'tit. Did they get Roma Doonsa too?
But I'm I'm gonna pull up rightnow. God, I know they

(01:03:27):
got DJ Moore, but they gotsomebody else too? Yeah, they got
they got they drafted Roma Dunzey aswell. So oh did they pick up
Keenan Allen? They got Keenan Allentoo. Okay, so Caleb got some
weapons, but JJ got Justin Jefferson, who might be the best receiver in
the league. Definitely. He showedit against us. He almost single handed
league brought the Vikings back to beatus that game. That dude's making some

(01:03:52):
unbelievable catches. He had like twohundred yards or something like that. And
John Again, that's my thing aboutthe Lions last year, Justin we have
some of us beatles by himself.We're what Ceedee Lamb did does Yeah,
he had one hundred yards in thefirst half. He's Cowboys record and we
still beat them. Yep, yep, we did. You get what I'm
saying. We lost to the Cowboys. We won that game. I thought

(01:04:15):
we oh, okay, all right, think about that one for a second.
We did when we won that game, especially because the Cowboys lost in
the playoffs. That's giving us thehome field advantage that we were supposed to
have anyway. And look who theylost to. We won that game,
they lost to somebody in our division. Yeah, yeah, George Love is

(01:04:38):
gonna be solid. I'm gonna beworried about the Lions in like five or
six years because you know, theseteams obviously they have young quarterbacks who should
be who should be pretty decent.Jordan Love is gonna be the man that
division. Though long as Brad Holmesis still here, I'm not worried.
Okay, and Brad Holmes we trusted, huh. Bro. He's like the

(01:05:00):
best drafting GM I've ever seen,Like, oh, the past three drafts.
You're like, yo, Detroit islike having a phenomenal fucking draft and
he's like and he's not doing itwith a shit ton of trades. Like,
the only real trade he made,like to really gather picks was the
one with Stafford, and he usedthat to build a fucking junder or not.
And then you look at it thispast year, we're like, oh,

(01:05:25):
twenty second pick, Oh well yougot Arryon Arnold. As long as
Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell are there, I feel good, Okay, I
feel good. All right. I'mgonna be worried about quarterback in a couple
of years when Jared starts to falloff a cliff because I don't I don't
know the young guy Hendon Hooker.I don't know, you know, no

(01:05:46):
one knows, because this is hisreal first this is his real rookie season.
He's back off the you know,the injury. We don't know what
he's gonna develop into. And Iwould say, like, the real worry
for me would be if they drafta quarterback next year. Ready, when
did we draft Hooker two years ago? Yeah? No, last year?

(01:06:06):
Oh? Last year? Okay,I haven't even seen Hooker. I guess
he'll play in the preseason, butI don't think. I haven't even seen
him play. Yeah, he heblew out his knee in college, and
that's why he went so late.That's why he was such a value pick
because people were like, yeah,if he didn't blow out his knee,
he was like gonna be your topten pick. Got it. But like,

(01:06:27):
if we draft a quarterback next year, that means like the injury is
still linger and he's not able topick up his NFL game. That's when
I'll start to get worried. Butyeah, I don't know how we got
the farm. Alliance shot to allions, man, shout to Alliance. All
Right, last seas before we getout of here, John, Okay,
are we going to see that poolthis weekend? Is that this weekend?

(01:06:48):
That Thursday? So yeah, okay, I'm down. We can sneak in
the movie theater for free, John, John, what you make one hundred
and fifty thousand a year. Wedon't need to sneak into him movies were
sneaking a movie theater. I gottaI got I know people that's done it,
and they told me how to doit, so we can. We
can try it out. All yougotta do is walk up to the kiosk

(01:07:08):
like you're purchasing your tickets, butand then like you type on the screen
a little bit and then you justkeep going and then you just walk to
the theater. We can try itout. I got you. You're thirty
eight years old. You know much. You know how much tickets are?
They're expensive? Bro? Yeah,you going on? How do you think?
How? How do you how doyou think these people become rich?

(01:07:30):
They become rich because they don't spendmoney, right, That's how you become
rich. So I'm trying to workmy way up to get rich. So
like you gotta find ways to getinto the movies for free. You gotta
find ways to lower the internet bill. You gotta find ways to not have
cable and get a bootleg nigga.You got butleg cable, don't you?
Oh no, don't. Oh yeah. Look look you don't want to talk

(01:07:51):
about that, do you. Yeah, you talk about that. You don't
talk about that, do you?Yeah? You got bootleg camble? No?
No, I just so I justwhat you're talking about that. I
just don't know what you're talking about. I ain't know about nothing, Okay,
I'm talking about not trying to singinto a movie theater, right because

(01:08:12):
my friend works ninety five hours ofovertime a week and he's just gonna buy
our tickets because he got it.That's crazy. I'm definitely sneaking in.
You can buy your tap. Youstay at the key if you you can
already sitting there with my bucket ofpopcorn, Like, damn, nigga,
take you long enough. He waswaiting in line or something. Wait,
wait, are you getting that Deadpoolbucket? I was looking at more of
the Xbox controller. Did you seethat with the cheeks on it? In
the cheeks, Yeah, it gotsome firm grip. You that's nasty.

(01:08:35):
You nasty, that's nasty. Thatgrip is crazy though, right, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Hedid his movie. Gonna be good.
From what I've heard, it's it'sgreat from what people were saying,
Yeah, because Marvel needs it.Niggas are saying that. Like when they
saw Wolverine in the costume, growingass Man was crying, that's gonna be

(01:08:58):
you. I'm definitely not going.I'm definitely not going. Definitely, if
Wolverine puts on the mask and Istart crying, would you get up and
walk out the theater? Yeah,I'm pulling what you did at the Ohio
Steak game. You only walk outstraight the door, so I can't cry
when like when he puts on likethe Wolverine mask. Can I like?
Can I stand up in applaud atthe end of the movie it's great?

(01:09:20):
No, I don't want any Ihate. Why do people do that?
Don't people applaud after the movie?Like? Bro, I never really understood
that. You would never catch medoing anything like that. Okay, but
you're gonna cry when he puts onthe wolverine mask. I'm not doing anything.
You're not gonna cry. I'm notgonna do anything. There's no there's
no reason to cry during a movielike. I can't. I can't understand

(01:09:41):
the reason of cry during the movieany movie. None like no movie,
no, no movie at all.I can't see a reason to cry when
iron Man died. I didn't.I didn't. I don't. It's a
movie, bro, it's fake.Like I'm watching. I'm watching something to
be entertained. I don't. I'mnot gonna get emotional. Why would I
get emotional? Why I'm getting like? Why I'm getting entertained? That doesn't
make sense to men who hurt you? Who who it's not real, it's

(01:10:04):
not real. Who robbed you ofyour emotional capacity? Why you crying?
Why you crying? When Iron Mandies. Did you know? Hold on,
hold on? Did you did youknow Tony Start personally? Nigga,
do you even know Robert? Doyou know Robert Downey Jr? Personally?
Okay, so thank you? Sowhy are you crying? That's what That's
what I don't get. It wasa moment. It was a moment full

(01:10:24):
of emotion that, like his characterarc has been fully completed. You didn't.
You didn't cry when I may die, when I may die all in
the bank right or in the whetherthe bank or the lobby. Yeah,
yeah, No, I didn't mean, how do you get so attached to
these characters? Bro? That's whatput It's not real. What are you

(01:10:45):
crying about? You didn't. Soyou didn't get emotional at all when the
other Peter Parker showed up. Youdidn't like cheer in the movie theater.
You was cheering when when you hadthe three Peters in there to Toby maguire
and uh Andrew Andrew Garfield and anduh. I don't think I'm howered out
loud, but I was like,I was like, oh, I think

(01:11:05):
I said that. Okay, Yeah, no, I don't. I don't
do that in the movie. Thenyou didn't cry at the beginning of Black
Panther two when they had the funeral. I haven't even seen that yet.
What the fuck? How have wenot seen I've been on the recruiting trail,
man, I just I don't havetime. Okay, John, hit
the people with the socials. Let'sget out of here. This nigga said
Black Panther too, like when dowatch Why would I watch that first off

(01:11:29):
black part? All right, y'allcan find me on uh yeah, no,
I see you know how to endthis ship that was find me on
Twitter bubo swagens s w A GG A n C unbelievable sea. Can't
wait to get out of here now. All right, John, I'm so
proud of you and the heel turnyou've made in this podcast. This is
gonna be fun. He'll turn,yeah, because because because I said what

(01:11:50):
I believe. So now, sonow you're telling me that I'm acting like
I'm in wrestling. That's you.Don't you don't think I believe he just
told you? So you're saying Kenswickis not a woman beater. Okay,
all right, I say that.I think you don't bet that gentlemen bigger
than him? What you mean,what are you talking about? Okay,

(01:12:12):
go ahead, go ahead. You'relooking for me, embrace up on Twitter.
I'm running the brand's page. Don'tforget. Let me book the Territory
the greatest professional wrestling podcast all time, all time, all time, all
time, And don't forget. Ifyou're looking for me. In a couple
of weekends, I will be atSummerSlam in Cleveland. Please, this is

(01:12:35):
for you, as I show upand show out this nigga pay all that
money for you for one night andthat shit crazy spoiler John. If the
tribal chief returns at SummerSlam, whothe fuck is the tribal chief? Oh?
Okay, sorry, yeah, you'retribal chief. I don't know.

(01:12:56):
I'm not I'm not Hawaiian, soI don't have a tribal chief. Wait,
isn't Hawaiian? Simonan? Ain't thisthe same thing? No? Dahn
okay? So then okay? Noon the country? No hold on time?
About where do the Simans live?So Samoa is a country? Yeah?
And where's Samoa? Dumb specific somewhereNo, okay, where the Pacific?

(01:13:19):
I don't know in the Pacific.Go ahead, keep talking. I
can't tell you specifically where all thoseislands are. Just no, they're over
there anyways, those are gonna say, John, if your tribal chief returns
at SummerSlam, I'm probably gonna cry. I don't know what that. I
don't know what the tribal chief is. I can tell you since you know
we have the you just looked upwhere was since we have the internet.

(01:13:41):
Damn, you can't even find somemore on the map. Bro, it's
just little he's from there. Well, all simons are from where's the rock
from Samoa? Well his mom's fromSamoa. But this is by Fiji.
Yeah, I know. It's faras fun. New Zealand. I ain't
know there was an island. Okay, that's pretty cool. You didn't know
New Zealand was an island. No, nigga, I'm talking about Samoa.

(01:14:05):
That's what you're talking about. Publicschool system. We didn't have funding.
I'm not the Oh they have photos. People actually live here, all right,
guys until next time. That's prettyfair here peace,