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It's been a long time, we shouldn't have left you... Nevermind, yall don't get it.  Dub and John are back!!! Final thoughts on the NBA finals, JJ Redick being the lakers new coach and of course Kendrick Lamar's victory lap of concert.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Embrace to Turn UpPodcast. Cultural commentary from two guys who
want all the smoke, all thesmoke and now your hosts A Dub and
John John. Ladies and gentlemen,welcome back to the Embrace the turn Up

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Podcast. Y'all know the vibes bynow, y'all know why we hear.
It's been a long time. Man. I am a Dub, the pod
guy, the pod tribal chief.If you will pop out Dub for this
episode, and I won't pass theocs joining me back from doing slave time
in the fields, the homie Johnis in the motherfucking building in his dark

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dungeon back cave of solitude. Up. John, you know it's great.
You always say that, but ifyou're over here here, there's a lot
of sunlight over here, it's justany other room, okay. That that
doesn't help you at all. Thatdoes not help your taste at all.
I feel good. I can seeeverything, I know because I got lights
on. I got a ring lighton, I got my light on,
I got sun light ringlish. Youcan see, yeah, you know,

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one of the ring lights like youknow, like they been using for the
TikTok trams. She just gives youan extra bounce because you know you got
it extra what extra light bounce?You know? Okay, you better change
that, waiting to see if you'regonna say it again. No, I
don't know, don't don't even dothat. You know. We haven't recorded
a pot since since putting by.Yeah, that's crazy. It's been that

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long. Yeah, it's been thatlong. M the lots happened. That's
went fast because I've been working thiswhole time like that, that's crazy.
They signed our freedom papers a longtime ago. John, all right,
Georgia, did you work? Iwas in the office, all right,

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exactly? Did you? I workedtoo? Well? Yeah, they gotta
work. The fuck you talking about? I was at work, Bron.
They don't give us you work JuneTeam. We both worked on Junie.
But it is different from me.I work in the office. It's different.
And please believe all all my whitefriends out there who didn't wish me
happy June Team. I may havebeen working, but I noticed it.

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Oh hell yeah, you know,cash after you or anything? Nothing?
You know how much I work.I could have used an extra dollar or
two. I feel like that bethe reason you don't need the extra dollar.
No, working so much. Youwork, you work well, you
work to make money. So ifI had the money, you work the
way you work. You don't needthe money because you work so much.

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You got like a stock pile orjust money under your mattress right now.
Don't have time to spend it,I said too. But I still take
I still take extra moneys though,who ever once to cinemat, I take
extra money because you know you youain't. You haven't double back to the
bay at all. You know,if you don't go to strip clubs,
you don't gam back in the casino. I mean I do gravel at the
casino. I'm about to say Ido gamble, but not the casino.

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Yeah you, yeah, you you'rea draft Geams addicts all good though I
tried. Goodness. Hey, whenI first the first year when it was
legal in Ohio, when I turnedthat five dollars into the twenty five hundred,
I saw the light and I've beenaddicted every since. Now you'd be
proud of me. I haven't.I haven't gambled since. I haven't placed

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a single bet since it was theconference finals, so you didn't haven't played
at all. I haven't bet Ihaven't been in the finals. I haven't
been on w n B A,I haven't bet on baseball. I haven't
So look, i've been so busy, just my work life balance is off,
so like, I've been so busythat I haven't even I'm too tired
to bet because us when I bet, are analytics, you know what will

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be the best players and stuff likethat. I just don't have time,
man, I I don't want tolook at this game seven. Oh that
hockey is night, isn't it?Yeah? Game seven? What time is
it? What time is the game? I'm assuming it starts probably the next
thirty. I don't know. Imight, I might take a look at
it. I mean, but probablynot. Bro, I look at so

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many spreas sheets throughout my day.You think I want to look at a
sports spreadsheet. I don't want tolook at I don't't look at another spreadsheet,
Bro, not another spreadsheet. Iunderstand, trust me, I get
it. So I'll get I'll getback into betting, souming. Baseball is
a long season, so I'll getback. You got plenty of time in
baseball, So but back to thefinals, John, give me your your

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your overall arching view, did theCeltics, specifically Jason Tatum and Jayson Brown
doing nothing winning that finals to changethe narrative on themselves. Excuse me,
No, they didn't play nobody.What narrative is that nobody everybody that they

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are an unserious team. Yeah,no, they didn't. They didn't play
nobody. Everybody they play was thateverybody play was hurt. So what are
we talking about here? What aboutthe mass everybody the MAVs weren't hurt and
that and the something lost for Zingus? I mean you saw in game one,

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because brazingis is a big deal.Let's see. So the game one,
Game one, he was a differencemaker. They won that game about
what like thirty I'm glad that youUh, let's see that was the game.
Here we go. So they didn'tplay nobody. So they play,

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but they didn't play Maami he buthere's that played him in the first round.
Oh they did, so Jimmy Butlerwas out right, it was hurt.
Yeah. Then they play Cleveland,don't get me started on Cleveland.
Then they play they played Indiana andthen Tyler Burn got Harliburn got hurt in

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that game too. Yeah, sothey didn't play nobody, man, I
mean it is okay, let menot, let me not start with hey,
you always start with love. Gradulationsto the Celtics. It took y'all
sixteen years to win the title.Congratulations, damn thee they wanted in twenty
four, though it took him sixteenyears. Hit the Lakers sixteen years,

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so just saying they won't want tothey won one in twenty four? How
long is that, dubs? Howlong? I'm just as how long did
that one? Outside? The Pistonswon title? Since you want, since
you won, since you want tobring up the Lakers? Bring up the
Lakers one, one and eight.They won one in twenty four, I'm
sixteen years. It's still I don'tcare how you put it, it's still

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sixteen years. It took him sixteenyears. It took him sixteen years to
win the title, and then holdon, hold on. It took him
sixte years win a title. Theyplayed multiple teams with multiple stars hurt.
I mean not multiple stars, butthe main stars on those teams are hurt.
So I mean they didn't they didn'tput on competition, So I mean,
I'm sorry. What was your originalquestion? Was original question? John

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I'm just asking, does it hurtthat they won their last two titles on
Kobe Years? Does it hurt whowho wont Less retired on Covie years?
The Celtics eight and twenty four?Really, that's what you're doing right now.
I'm gonna asking you as a Lakerfan of hers, you know what?

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Rest in peace to Jerry west whostands on business. He said,
I'm gonna die before I see aCeltics quinet team win the title. He
didn't want to see that. Hedied. He said, all right,
I'm getting up out of here.Yeah, get up out of here,
yup, alright, p Jerry westMan, Yeah, no, man,

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stand on business man. I cannotstand in Celtics. I can't see that.
I see that. I can't tookhim sixteen years and everybody they didn't
play nobody, So hold on.So if Miami Heat had Jimmy Butler,
you think they would have got pastMiami Heat. You there, buddy,
you shell shocked right now? Youshell shocked right now? Or what you're
there? I think you're shell shocked. No, My riverside just went crazy.

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Oh yeah, I'm here. Iwas telling everybody you went shell shot
because you were you know, Ibrought up a I forgot what my question
was, but you were, youwere, You were so scared of the
question you left you did with JerryWest did with the Celtics. He was
like, you know what, Idon't I'm done with this. I've seen
enough. Yeah, all right,all right? Oh My question was if
Jimmy Butler was one hundred percent healthy, you think that team would have beat

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the Miami Heat. Yeah, ateam with a nigga that can't go left
and then a team with a niggawho still Texas Kobe cell phone? Like,
come on, now, what wedoing? I do? I think
Jimmy's gotten everything he can get outof this team, and I think that's
why they're looking at trade them,because they don't want to admit that they
need to just go out and findsome more talent. Mh, I'm just

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gonna I mean, I don't know, like what they're hoarding all this money
for. You know what I'm saying, Like, because now, do they
trade Jami if they get do theytrade Jimmy if they get Dame Loward?
No? I mean that's the typeof talent that you you need to get.
Yeah, But like for some reasonthey're just holding all this money and
like signing you know these undrafted guys, the late round guys, and they

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got a lot out of the Don'tget me wrong, what two finals trips
Like yeah, but there's only somuch that that level is gonna get you.
And Jimmy's like just force of forceof will like Jimmy and Bam is
a lot for a lot of teams. But you need you need somebody else.
You need somebody who you know,if the Miami Heat ain't picking them

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up, not gonna be over inEurope, you know what I'm saying.
Let's be honest too, I don'tthink the Mavericks are not the best team
in the West. So the bestteam in the West is the Denver Nuggets.
If that different Nuggets team would haveplayed how they should have played,
There's no way the Celjects would havebeat that different Nuggets team. There's absolutely
no way the nuggats. The Nuggetsjust ran into the buzz saw that was

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Anthony Edwards like it. They justhad no answer for that. Man,
well, that team that I wouldsee that team over the Mavericks. I
think I think if the tip timberWolves would have made it they would have
beat the Celtics. I can seethat. I think I think like matchup
wise, like Timberls are probably abetter team than the Mavericks. But I

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think the Mavericks just like they justmatch up better because they got two niggas
in the back court that can legitimatelyjust cook you all the time. Yeah,
and the Timberwolves don't have that.And good as Rudy Grobert is that
switch when Luca gets on them,Luca looks at Rudy Gobert and said,

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oh, yeah, this this lightwork. That's what I do, easy
eating. It's cooking right there.It's ox tails rice, that's what That's
what he's saying. Yeah, thisis whatever Slovian delicacy they eat over there.
I don't even know. Now.Shout out to the Shout out to
the Shout out to the Celtics.Man, they won the sixteen they I
mean, but if the if,the if the playoffs, if everybody entered

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the playoffs healthy, with their starplayers healthy, the Celtics would not have
made it. And I'm staying onthat. Okay, hope you don't take
them another sixteen years to win anothertitle. I mean, I'm sure you
hope they never won another title.No, because they got they got one
more title than the Lakers. It'sjust trash. So, speaking of the

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Celtics, is Jalen Brown having thebest year ever for a nigga that can't
go left? Yeah? I meanthree hundred million that's what you're you're signing
for? No, that that waswhat his contract he got last year.
Oh okay, three hundred million forlike six years. Eastern Conference Finals,

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MVP Finals MVP and pull kaiser Guyzawickfrom the Chicago Sky Do you know who
that is? Yeah? I donot. All right, check your phone.
I just sent you a picture ofher. She's probably the baddest player
in the w NBA. Okay,I'm talking cold cold. So you said

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this is Jimmy Butler, you saidit's Jalen Brown. Jaylen Brown pulled her.
Okay, yeah, okay for anigga that can't go left, Like
I said, you know, that'sinsane, right, Like they teach you
this like in like like Why LeagueBasketball, they have you doing drills with

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your left hand, right hand whatever, like you would think being an NBA
player you could go left, dribblewith your left I mean he can go
left. He can go left withhis right hand, but that's just dumb.
He can't dribble left. And youtell me he's got all this three
hundred million whoever this is that yousent me and he's Finals MVP. What

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else was he? Eastern Conference FinalsMVP as well? Eastern. I don't
know. I don't get it.I don't get it. Let's be honest.
If you take Tatum off that team, that team is nothing. You
take Jalen Brown off that team,I bet, I bet they'll make it
to at least the I'm sorry man. With Jason Tatum and no Jalen Brown,

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that team will go to the conferencefinals. But if it was the
opposite, that team would be outin the second round of playoffs, first
or second round. You know,I'm right, don't know, because Tatum
is a better player Jalen. ButJaalen is a better on ball defender,

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Okay, Tatum is a better offthe ball defender. And to me,
that just sounds like he doesn't reallywant to use the effort to stay on
his man. He'd rather like,you know, help, mm hmm.
So I don't know, like itwould depend on like what they replaced Jason
I mean Jalen Brown with because likehe's a phenomenal on ball. That that's

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what that's my thing. That's whatI would wonder with Jason Tatum. Like
when you come, you got toplace a lot of offensive skill. But
if you had okay, this iswhat I mean, if you had the
this Celtics team m hm, andI said, you gotta pick you Jason
Tatum, Tatum or Jalen Brown onthis Celtics team. Who take Tatum?

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Take Tatum every day exactly so thatnigga, I don't know. I don't
know how that nigga even got threehundred million, honestly because he was the
next guy up, like he wasthe next guy out for a contract.
And let's be real, he's thetop ten guy. Wait, whoa,
whoa, whoa whoa. Okay,thank you. Everybody said you better fix
that real quick. But I gotI can say, run off ten players

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right now. I'll take over JaalenBrown. You don't think he's top ten?
Absolutely not, absolutely absolutely not.Tatum is all right, let's name
Tatum, Joker, Luca, Kyrieand man Bron got six at six?

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Where's Kevin Durant at You take KevinDurana or Jalen Brown. Kevin Durant,
Yeah you would, Yeah, youdefinitely take Davids over Jalen Brown. I
mean he's heard a lot prom letyou know. He can go left.
He can go left. Thank you. You're taking Devin Booker over Jalen Brown.

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Absolutely, Devin Booker could do more. I mean he's not good in
defensive end, but he could domore on the offensive end. He can
bring the ball up court, hecould run the offense. He can pass,
he can shoot. Devin Booker canrun the offensive. He's the first
offense correct one of what if youcan put Devin Booker next Steph Curry anymore?

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You did you even name Steph Curry? No? Okay, well that's
that's that's eight right there. Iwould take uh. I would take Jimmy
Butler over Jaylen Brown. Jimmy gettingup there, man, trying to look.

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I would take Halliburton over Jaylen Brown. I got no, I gotta
see I gotta see more. Igotta see more from from Halliburton. Yeah,
okay, I mean that's fair more. I got see more from jay
LEB. Brown. That don't meannothing to me, man ig You dollar

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won finals MVP. What does thatmean? Yeah, because he he guarded
Lebron and didn't Lebron let Lebron takeover that series, So he won finals
MVP because of his defense. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't

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see you got nothing. You know. You know Egy Dollard is not the
man on that team. No,it was Stuff's team obviously, but they
don't they don't win that finals ifdoesn't contain Lebron. So you think he
deserved finals MVP because he guarded anigga. So you know what, I

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can't hear you, but I knowjust some ship you were saying. I
know you do not believe, butthat deserve that that m v P.
No, I was so funny.Thing was I couldn't hear. I could
see your mouth moving, but Icouldn't hear what you're saying. So what
I said was you was talking allthat ship, but the video cutout or
the sound cutout because the sound newstalking ship, you know what I mean.

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So there's no way you there's noway you believe that deserve m v
P. That's what I was gettingat, and the computer knew that too.
That's why I cut your sound out. It's okay, all right,
it's okay, it's okay. Theydon't have defensive MVPs. Man, Yeah

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they do. It's called intensive Playerof the Year. I'm talking about.
It's about finals MVP man. Imean, but if your defense is good
enough, you you wouldn't finals me, okay, I mean, honestly,
have Billups not hit that you knowthat that crazy like half court shot in
the finals at one time? Thenwill almost kind have won that m VP

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over the Lakers, Like you toldme, nobody's talking about the Pistons.
Nobody's talking about the Lakers. Yousaid that earlier, So can we talk
about the Lakers? Can How doyou feel with Dan early passed up their
job? That's embarrassing. Henry decidedConnecticut is a better life choice for him

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or he's back to back national championthough for Connecticut. So I mean he
decided living in Connecticut is a betterlife choice for him. You know,
I hear from Henry once a year. No, I'm sorry, once every
three years or two years. That'swhen Lakers getting new coach. So I

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heard from Henry this a couple ofweeks ago, and he started his text
to me as in, this ismy annual Lakers coaching discussion with you,
so shout out to hand Rids.But JJ Reddick is an interesting higher.

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They think he's going to be thenext pat Rally. What they don't understand
is there's only one pat Rally,which we saw in winning time. I
don't SEEJJ Redick high. I thinkhe only got the job because he's doing
the podcast. I think this isa Lebron Higher. I do. So
are you sad the podcast is overbecause he said no more? Well,

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well, one thing, one thingI don't like is if this is a
Lebron Higher. Lebron is only goingto be around for two years, so
this hire doesn't going to be aroundfor a decade. Brother, Brian ain't
ready. You see Brownie play.Oh yeah, he ain't ready. He's
not ready. So you're gonna findout the hard way too. I don't

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care who. I mean, Lakerswill draft him, but as soon as
Lebron's going that nigga going down tothe G League, that nigga is gone.
But I was reading stories about Polinkatalking about something. Oh, he's
gonna be the next pat Rally,Like, no, he's not Rally?
Was okay? So you know,Michael Jordan is a once in a generation

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type athlete. Tiger Woods, Waynegrat Sky. These type people are once
once in the generation. Like therethere, there would not be another part
Rally his he'll be closer to beingHe'll be closer to being uh, let's

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see, you know what, here'sone. He'll be closer to being Darvingham
than he will pat Rally. Imean that's a pretty big like white swath
of who he could be. Yuh, could he be close like a Jason

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Kidd? No, I think JasonKids is a great coach. Okay,
I do, I think? Okay, So he'll be more of a closer
right coaching the nine year olds exactly? Thank you, thank you. If

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that niggas the next David Black,that would not surprise me. And we
also how that went. Did theBlack have like four rings in the euro
League before he came over? Hedid? He was doing he was coaching,
Yeah, he did. Well,that's the difference. He was coaching
pros over there. The only coachingexperience JJ Reddick guy is coaching with ninth
graders or nine year olds, nineyear olds and talk and talking on the

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podcast bad David Black would be justifiedjust find coaching in the n b A.
He just can't coach that guy.And coaching that guy Lebron scared him
so much that he ain't never comingback over here. It's like, I'm
not that nigga went back to hiscountry. He's like, I'm out,

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I can't I can't deal with this. JJ Redick JJ JJ Reddick might be
the next Steve Nash when it comesto coaching them. Niggas gonna be like,
we don't need no coach and godo their own thing. That nigga
is not gonna be par rally,bro, but there's a back enough to
take that. J. J.Redicks an asshole. Redick's not gonna take

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that. Well, okay, sookay, so you don't need me j
J. J J come off likethat on TV. I don't know if
he's like that in real life.I've heard enough stories about j J as
a player, he's like that.In real life he's he's like, he's
not mean, but he's an asshole. Well, it's gonna be interesting see

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how him and Lebron meshed when Lakersgoing at ten game losing streak. That
ship, that asshole ship don't workwhen you're in a ten game Rod losing
streak or whatever it is, andthen Lebron started questioning the lineup. Yeah
then and then JJ just like JJjust lose it. Just go to the

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media, like, you know,if our start player would just stop being
a bitch, be all right,Yo, that's crazy, hey man,
It worked for Mario Chalmers and thenthey won the finals. They won the
finals. Yeah, it will comeup. And then then Nigga lost the
job to norths Cole. But that'sa whole another story. Norrise Cold is

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pretty good though at that time hewas he was he was, he was
pretty good. He was pretty good. But coming out like it wasn't that
obvious that he was like that muchbetter than Mario Chalmers that he should take
that Nigga's job. But what Chalmershit the big shot too, don't forget
about that. Yeah, it wasjust the fact that Chalmers called Lebron and
bench and Lebron was like, Idon't I don't like that. I don't
want to play with him. Whyyou gotta doing that voice because to me,

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that's how that nigga is. Man, he just you don't Lebron.
To me, Lebron's a guy thatreminds you that basketball is still a game
because he definitely out here, likeI don't want to play with him no
more? You mean, or Idon't like his lineups? You want to
work with me no more? Okay. That's a crazy line, man,

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that's a crazy line. Not yourjob. We'll get to that. We'll
get to that. That's a crazyline. That's some ship that that just
uh like, are you really gonnacry? Like you know what I mean?
Like I don't care? Yeah,okay, yeah, there's so we

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here. My man said, cutthe business. You've got ship twisted?
What is it? The braids?You don't want to order me own?
Okay? Okay, oh John,yes, sir, we're done with sports.
We're done. First thought, whenyou watched the pop out concert?

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So so I forgot that it waseven an untuned team. So I got
on obviously I was working, butI got on Twitter and then I saw
I was seeing highlights. I'm like, oh, that concert was going on.
So I actually watched the concert.I kind of skimmed through it,
but I watched watched Slash skim throughit. On Saturday. How did you

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feel watching Kendricks Park just oh,just Kendricks sparky yo, I will say,
I was. That was great tosee. I do wish I would.
I do wish some of the ogscould have made it, like the
Ice Cubes the Snoops. But Ithink they said Snoop was on tour or

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he's on tour right now, sothat's why you couldn't make it. I'm
not sure about Ice Cbe, butit was, it was. It was.
Uh, it was great, Bro, that was I almost want to
get on stage myself. I wantedto. I wanted to jump through the
TV and get on stage. Greatconcert, thomission to go back. He's

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probably the only rapper that I knowcould pull off something like this. I
get the whole city together and haveniggas of different sets on stage. He's
probably the only nigga and wrapped Iknow if they probably could pull some well
he did. I can't say probablypulled off. He did pull off.
He's the only nigga and rap Iknow that could pull something like that off.
I can't think I can look thathappy playing basketball Yo Westbrook. So

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like I don't know any New Yorkdown South rappers that could do that,
you know what I mean. Likehe's getting the whole city and like the
whole city involved in this beef,you know what I mean. Like it's
just like I don't think Drake wouldbe safe even going to San Francisco,
you know what I mean. Butif Drake want to go to uh,

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he can't go to can't go tothe Niners games. That nigga may not
even be safe in San Diego.Nigga we talking about that. Nigga ain't
safe nowhere in California. You can'teven go to a Padres game, no
more than my guy. Nah.But that concert, that concert is great,
bro, Like even even watching itthrough the TV, you could feel

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the electricity, you know what Imean? Oh yeah, oh yeah.
To start that concert off with euphoria, I was like, oh, just
what we're doing. I was like, man, start over with euphoria.
Miter Graham, you about to gothrough it, buddy. So what do
you so? What do you uhanythink Drake's feeling right now? Because this

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is I know you keep bringing uppushing tea, but like, I feel
like this is a lot. He'sDrake is taking a pounding right now and
this is and he would he wouldyeah know that's crazy. Yeah, you're
right, Drake's taking a beating rightnow, a beating that he didn't take
with Push a Tea or obviously hewont the meat meal beef. But you

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know what I'm saying, like he'sI feel like Drake is getting just yeah,
no good. This is way differentlike Push It just beat him on
record and kind of embarrassed him andsome ship that Drake thought he could win.
This this is different. Not onlydid Kendrick beat him on wax out,
charged him, made memes out ofhim. Dawn there with the all

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the hortable lines not like us hebrought, he made a concert out he
made on one of the biggest momentsin hip hop history about hating you,
like, yeah, that's they haveeverybody in the cross singing, singing your
pedophile bro. That that is it'sand then and then uh and at one

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and at I think it's failing matters. And when Drake was like, you
don't really bang a set, mynigga, y G bang a set whatever,
and yg was on stage with rightthere, right right next to him,
right there, Like Drake gotta feellike the kid who like was the

(30:33):
rich kid in the neighborhood, butyou know, everybody hung out with him.
He was the first nigga with adreamcast, but they really didn't like
him. Didn't like him. Yeah, I know, I think that.
I think that's how Drake has tofeel right now because it's really like,
yeah, a lot of these niggaswill do songs with you to get money,
they don't really like you, soand that's a sobering feeling if anything.
So here's the thing though, Sookay, I want to start from

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the beginning. You say euphoria,right, I didn't think I didn't He's
gonna come out to you for it, But that was great. I was
rapping word for word, but Iforgot, like all the hits Kendrick had.
Do you know what I'm saying?Like I forgot I forgot about obviously
I know money Tree stuff like that, but I don't really listen to him
like that, like King Kunta andOh Collar Greens and all the j like

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the whole j Rock said. Iwas like word for word top of my
lungs because I forgot about Jay Rockand the songs they had together, skewboy
Q coming out, all the jointshe got with Kendrick, like you're the
joints. I literally forgot I thinkyou forget about him because like they're not
like top you know, chart toppers, so they're not gonna be number one

(31:44):
on countdowns and stuff, but youlike him, you like him personally,
so like and Kendrick knows like whathis fans, his core audience likes of
his so then you put them alltogether, you're like, oh man,
I mean it's the equivalent of likesay, like you know, you go
to a club and like they do, I don't like a like a kiss

(32:06):
set or like a Jay set,and you're like, damn. These is
the hits. They not necessarily allchart toppers, but they're the ones that
his fans really fuck with. Andthat's what Kendrick did with this concert.
Like one of the Trees is aphenomenal song, like it is, and
like, man, just so hejust has so many of them. And
then he did he did the BackstreetBackstreet not Backstreet backseat freestyle. That's one

(32:30):
of my all time favorites. Iwas not I was not expecting though,
to hear uh the song he dealwith Future. I wasn't expecting that one
either. I wouldn't expect him todo locked Now his thing though, but
like that started playing. I waslike, oh my god, it's Future

(32:52):
about to come out, because that'swhat I was thinking. Because I didn't
because when it came to the concert, you know, there's different highlights on
Twitter, but like people didn't reallyabout the features, you know, like
who he had on stage. Sowhen I was like, ship, it's
future, but I was way forFuture to come out. But I mean
he he performed that song, man, that song? Is that song still

(33:13):
his? Man? What are youtalking about the other song with Future?
Was it? No, the onethat just came out. No? No,
no, the one that just cameout. Yeah, everybody he did
doing with Jay Rock too when theFuture said yeah. But then like,
but you forget outside of the futureship on there. That song is crazy.

(33:36):
Song's crazy. So how you feelabout him performing like us? Uh
five times? Five times? Yeah? You cool with that? No,
he should have did it six ohfor the six? Yeah, do it
for the six that's what. So. So here's the funny part though,

(33:57):
So the first time he did thesong when he let everybody hold the a
minor part, I was holding thatship the whole time. Pause. That's
crazy. I was I'm paused.Also that a minor part the whole time,
and I didn't know he's gonna dothat, but it was just like
in Florida song, you know whatI mean. Yeah, but by the
the fifth or sixth time, Iwas like, I'm excoing. The fourth

(34:20):
or fifth time, I was like, yeah, yeah, this is this
is this is a legitimate victory.Laugh RP Nipsey and I love how he
was like just like it was likehe was dancing to the a minor part,
you know what I mean, Likethe beat would cut off and you
just see him waved his arms inthe air. He was dancing the way
Drake dancing the hotline. Buddy,I didn't see that. I did see
that. Niggas evil. He's diabolical. Like I don't nobody ever hate me

(34:45):
the way he hate Drake because thisis calculated, like this is that's that's
scary. Well, So see wetalked about petty niggas, Right, Kanye
is a petty nigga a lot ofmoney so he could buy a house right
next to you and do some pettyship. Right. Drake is petty too,
But I play Drake the way.The way Drake is petty is I'm

(35:07):
gonna fuck your bitch and I'm gonnatalk about you behind your back, to
your bitch. That's Drake Petty KendrickPetty is. I'm gonna throw these subtile
subtile jabs on you. I'm gonnacame out with a fire ass beat and
call you a pedophile. And thennow he's got the whole world call him

(35:28):
uh you know, singing the aminor part or sometimes you gotta pop up
and show nig why around or thatwhat what what? Wh what? Fuck
him up? What what? What? That can't work on? That was
can't work on? That was crazy. That was like that was like an
anime fight, like whoa like whoeverthe whoever the director is on that and

(35:52):
the director of cinematography on that one. They they need awards and they need
raisers because boy, hey Drake,I hear you like him, young yo.
That's crazy. Who says that toanother man on a song? Block
one? Huh? Hold on,there's so many quotables in that song and

(36:15):
like and now Kendrick has like legitevidence that that's a stadium hit. Here's
another thing too. I think itwas a third or fourth time. He's
like, I think it's DJ head. He's like, bring that beat back
again. Remember that he brought itback, but he wasn't singing the lyrics.
The crowd was and he was justdancing. They were singing it word

(36:35):
for word, word for word,bar for bar. I was like,
oh, this is definitely so ifyou're Drake, or if you were Drake's
man giving him advice. If okay, if Drake pops back up, Drake
has to have a hit right likethis, This next song's gotta be a
hit. Drake has quiet the noise. He has to put out his thriller.

(37:00):
Okay, that's why I would okay, so great that like it puts
him in the upper echelon of likeall music. Okay, Drake has how
the album's so good that he canlook Taylor Swift in the face and say
I'm dropping the same day. Okay, that's how good this album needs to
be. Flatter Okay I was.I was thinking, like, Drake has

(37:22):
to. The way you combat thisis you gotta put out good music.
You have to and it's gotta beprobably for him, it's gonna be great
music. Yeah, and it haslike it can't be like controversially great.
It can't be like because you know, for all the dogs like I've noticed
young kids love it, older peoplenot so much. Like there can't be

(37:44):
that divide. It has to beuniversally locked. You think Drake has to
also think to himself, like allright, I'm gonna j cole this album
as in like I'm gonna do thisalbum myself, no features, apologize,
give Kendrick Pot's ring back, hesaid, apologized, Uh, not apologize

(38:07):
per se, but Jake calling likeno features, no features, I'm gonna
do this album solo. Who yougonna get the feature on it? Everybody
hate him? Ain't that crazy too? That's crazy, ain't it? Everybody?
He would call? What was onstage with Kendrick. He can't call
y g. He can't call Ross. He can't call Weekend, Like,

(38:32):
where's little Wayne in all this?Man? Wayne is like mysteriously silent?
You get that too? Yeah,he can't call Dom Kennedy. He can't
call Ty dollar Sign. He can'tcall Ty the Creator. He can't call
Mustard, can't call Mustard. Hecan't call Boogie. You can't call Boogie.

(38:53):
Can't call Roddy rich Well Riddy.He went Tennessy there, but most
at even supposed to be there.Yeah, most have played the stuff.
So yeah, no, I mean, well, well Drake is still called
the game. It's like the gameis still on his side. Cool.

(39:14):
From from what I've been reading fromWest Coast Niggas, it sounded like they
just they looking for a reason toget him to fuck up out of here
through the game. Yeah, likeshit, real West Coast Niggas is just
looking for a reason. They like, please speak out on line about Kenny.
We beg of you. We've beenwaiting to get you the fuck out
of here. So Snoop Dogg,do you see Snoop Dogg's video talking about

(39:38):
the concert, No, and not. In summary, Snoop Dogg said,
Kendrick is the real King of thereal King of La because he was able
to bring everybody together on stage inpeace. Kendrick the king of hip hop
right now, He's the king ofhip hop. There's like fifteen different blood

(39:58):
and cript sets up there, shakein hands, they crip walking, krip
walking, blood walks, all ofit. They didn't there wasn't a piece
like this in La after the RodneyKing riots, Like, well here's the
thing. Two though, we allthought that the Nipsy Murder was gonna bring
everybody together you know what I mean, And it didn't hate. But Kendrick

(40:21):
cans Rage brought that whole coast togetherbecause E forty did the fucking intro for
Kendrick coming out. Yeah, yeahhe did. He did. Never seen.
What do you expect that of themusic video? Oh, vibes,
vibes, everybody just looking happy,like I think all that. I think

(40:45):
Kendrick got all the hate out ofthe system making the songs. At this
point, He's just happy because everythinghe's saying he feels validated in because the
culture is really trying to get Drakethe fuck up out of here. Do
you think agree with him? Man? You think it's smart. You think
it's smart for Drake to circle back, circle back and do what? Spend

(41:10):
the block one more time? Whosong was that? I must? Whose
song was that? Spend the blockone more time? Oh? His future?
That future? You think you thinkDrakes spending blot one more time?
Nah? You lead lead that manalone. You think Drake's career took a

(41:30):
hit? Yes, and as inwhat as in like his influence in the
culture or as in like uh musicallylike what hey? You think he took
being influenced in the culture okay,because there have been people who have been

(41:53):
saying these things about Drake, likeoff and on for a long time.
Kendrick just all put it all togetherand like and really put it out there
and say, Yo, you're acolonizer. You don't really fuck with us,
You not like us, The niggasdon't really like you, and in

(42:15):
real life you're actually a fucking weedand like, and you're just and you're
trying to like you're cosplaying is oneof us, and I hate you for
it. I like, I reallyhate you for it. You see Ron
as a concert? Oh yeah,Lebron wanted to go on stage. Should
Savannah said no, you're not.No, he can't do that because if

(42:35):
he went on stage that Drake wouldhave and le Bron went on stage,
Westbrook would have snuffed him. Well, Lebron's also not from La so I
don't think. I don't think Lebronshould be on stage for that. But
again Lebron think like that, Yeahthat's true, but I ain't gonna lie
nigga from Michigan. If I wasin there, I was trying to find

(42:57):
my way on that stage, Iwould have uh, I would have a
little mama that whole stage. Thatsecurity probably would have came and got me,
but at least I got my tenseconds and my ten seconds of krip
walking. I'll have joined the bloodright then and there. Oh yeah,
no, we we up here.So so Drake took a hit culturally,

(43:19):
is your thought? So I'm gonnaask you this, When the last time
you listen to a Drake song sinceits beef started? Oh? Sorry,
since the beef ended? When's thelast time you listen to a Drake song
besides push Ups? Yeah, I'mtalking about I do like push ups as
a record, So I'm talking aboutsince the beef ended, since everybody declared

(43:40):
Kendrick a winner, when's the lasttime you listen to a Drake song?
Yeah? I haven't. Okay,So so I'll go other than because I
do like so family matters. Notthe first verse, but the second verse
means rap over a drill beat,that nigga was sliding on that ship pause,

(44:02):
That shit was crazy. But otherthan that, other than the beef
songs, I was, uh,I was cleaning the house and you know,
I just put my music on shuffleand a Drake song came on.
It was off the Scorpion album.Or was off Scorpiy album. You know,

(44:22):
I'm sorry it was. It wasoff of Her Loss, and to
me, Her Loss was my favoriteDrake album. So but it was off
of Her Loss that came on andbrou it was one of my favorite songs,
and it just don't hit the same. It just don't. Like.
Now look at this nigga, Like, yo, bro, like like,
did you really do this feature withtwenty one so you could be accepted in

(44:45):
the culture? You know what Imean? Now? Yeah, yeah,
it sounds differently funny in the light. Now you look real funny in the
light. Now, No, Iknow, go ahead, That's what I
was gonna say. I know twentyone is this man's I know him in
twenty one very close. But likewhen I when I listen to that song,
now, I'm just like, Ican't like the things he was saying
in the song, just like Ifeel like you just like cosplaying Now does

(45:07):
that make sense? He looks realfunny in the light, And I'm like,
what makes it worse is that somany people that Drake has collaborated with
were right on stage with Kendrick andlike, yeah, no this we were
trying to get this money, likeYou're like, damn, maybe maybe they
really don't like this nigga. Ye, maybe everything Kendrick says is correct about

(45:31):
him, Like I mean, hesaid, I don't care what y'a ain't
saying, don't who you hang with. I was like, Oh, that's
that's different. So great. Sothe new the new Drake album we're gonna
get is gonna have fucking featuring Yachty, fucking featuring Tizo, and fucking uh

(45:52):
some some other new niggas out there. I can't think of names, like,
uh, who else is he?Uh, it's gonna have party nes
door on it, like he's gonnabe to me bad. I'm not gonna
get I'm giving benefit doubt because youknow, I heard stories about I heard
stories about you about how you onesided and you're Drake hater. So we
got patuned in a different light too. What are you talking to people think?

(46:14):
People think people think you are Drakehater, and people think that you're
one sided. But the way youtalk, the way you Okay, all
right, I want to push yourwho wanted to push your t in Drake
Bee, Drake lost my lot,Drake, see what I mean? And
the gonna be a father okay,so okay, and then and then this

(46:37):
beef. When we were comparing thesongs, you said that Nigga Kendrick swept
them. I still believe that tothis fact. See that's that's that's one
sided. No it's not. Yes, Yes, it is your for one
of the best songs of long time. Yes is Bro and it not like

(47:00):
us. It is a hit.It was the There was more. There
was more songs than that, thoughthat came in this beef. So so
you tell me you listened to meetthe Grahams in six sixteen in l A.
What you're telling me, meet theGrahams, Meet the Grahams. The
type of ship you gotta go shootingnigga over. I don't think in LA

(47:21):
it's cool. It's just cool youput. If you put six sixteen against
family matters, Drake wins that round. But the thing is, Kendrick just
kept coming with punches and Drake keptcoming with memes. Yo. That's crazy,
all right? See this See nowyou just you, you get you
get people ammunition family matters. Idon't. Kendrick did not sweet Kendrick did

(47:45):
not sweep Drake Bro. I'm sorry, I got I gotta tell you that
what round? What round? Drake? What Kendrick? Kendrick did not sweep
Drake? Drake, I would giveDrake, I would give Drake family matter
well o yeah what he said oversix sixteen in l Yeah yep. And

(48:10):
then push Ups. Push Ups waspush Ups was crazy when it first came
out. So push Ups and Taylormay Freestyle start to us, are you
either one of those better than Euphoria? Taylor Maye is crazy? Like creatively,
that song was crazy because Drake wroteboth lines and used AI and the

(48:31):
niggas sounded just like push Ups andTaylor Maye freestyle. That gets the job
done against a lot of rappers,a vast majority. It's he. That
was Drake learning from the push andshit that came out swinging, and he
came out with some of the bestguns ever. Euphouria is a new Drake

(48:52):
showed up with guns to a newhold on, hold on, hold on,
You're not gonna do that. Soyou're gonna tell me Euphoria it's better
than push ups and push put together. Yes, that is better. It
is the only way you say thatis because that nigga talking about he the
biggest hater I hate the way youwalk, the way you talk, the

(49:13):
way that you dress. I hatethe way you sneak this and you can't.
I'm back hate with jokes and thatthat was the thing that because again
all right, hope with some linesup push ups because you just four real
quick and some lines on push ups. Oh way, why hold on?

(49:34):
Why exactly? Hold on? Igotta I gotta catch the beat first.
Oh I can't never be a numberone fan. I put your first number
one in your hand. Uh.That was Those are the lines about ross.
But okay, keep going that.Those are the lines about future that
future future ahead. Yeah yeah,but let me take Oh here you go,

(49:58):
hold on the way. Okay,I got something for you. Pip
squeeze, piped down. You ain'tin the big three? Uh, Sissy
got you wiped down. Savage gotyou wiped down. Travis got you wiped
down? Are you how you big? Are you big? Stepping with a
size seven? Man's on? Comeon, man, bars nigga. Hey,

(50:22):
if I was flux right now,I'll be throwing bombs. Bars.
I even hate the bitches you fuckbecause they confuse themselves with really John what
John? He said? You knowwhat? Hate the bits they fuck he
his bitches to and but what Drakesaid, it's not just me. I'm

(50:45):
what the culture feeling. He letyou know, we all hate you.
Hold on, hold on, holdon. But then Drake said after that,
Drake said, Drake said, uh, what do you mean you hate
the bitches that fucked that fuck black, white and everything and be tween And
then he said, you the blackMessiah, wiping up a mixed queen.
Come on, man, don't playwith me. I know all Drake's lines.

(51:07):
Man, you're literally reading them rightnow. I'm not bro hold on,
is this Caeme gonna work? Let'ssee, you're literally reading them right
now. Look at me, nigga, Look look can you see me?
Can you see me? All right? He said? You see hold on,
so you barely see me. Idon't have no phone in my hand
or nothing. I'll spend those lyricsany lyric you can spec. Yeah,

(51:34):
yeah, I was crazy. NowI was crazy too. I get carried
away though. I'm not one sideof the job. I'm just you are
you are okay? You know what? You know what side of it?
Right? This is what you doafter after the pod, either today or
tomorrow. I want you to throwa pole and ask the community, Ask
the community, are you one sided? And this drake and push a beef

(51:58):
and the world will tell you I'mnot. You are get swept, bro
sucker. He didn't get swept.Yes, it was bad. So obviously
in our lifetime, we've seen alot of beefs, right WHOA, yeah,

(52:21):
that's crazy. All right, No, that's crazy, Okay. I
didn't not mean like hip hop hiphop disagreement. You've seen a lot of
hip hop disagreements. Now where youranked this and how do you? And
I want you to rank it?So like when it comes to the victory
lab, So like the victory labKendrick's doing right now? Is this top

(52:45):
five? I mean, what arethe other victory labs? So jay Z
did the Summer Jam thing? Whatabout Michael Jackson out that was you know
that was crazy within itself. Ithink he was beefing with it was Nas
mob D because he huh j J. What I mean? It depends who

(53:15):
you talk to. I think Naswont that beef though, So then how
to do a victory left on somethinghe lost? Because you were saying that
blueprint two on that album when theycan circle back. That's when he won
it, But I don't believe that. I think Nas won that one.
But it's whatever. I'm neither.I'm neither here nor there, you know
what I mean. But I thinkwinning a beef and then doing what Kendrick

(53:39):
is doing, He's gonna be hardfor Drake to recover. I mean,
yeah, yeah, I mean unlesshe can fight another thing too? Is
Another thing too? Is is culturetoo right? Because is Canadian right?
So like if he he goes anywherein the US not like us, it's

(54:04):
gonna be playing that nigga's only safe, hey, even in Toronto and saying
in Toronto's beautiful city. But Drakelikes to go to Miami, Drake likes
to go to La Drake likes togo to you know these other places.
Yeah, I guess he can.Yeah, held that. It's not like

(54:25):
he can't go to Oakland either.You think you think so? I gotta
there's a question for you. Iwant to know if you think Drake is
out of touch with black culture.And the reason why I'm asking you that
because Kendrick the way Taylor May wasmade, Kendrick flipped that to say,
Yo, you are disrespecting our ourlegends with this and I think everybody got

(54:51):
behind that, and I think thatspeaks to how tone deaf or cultural death
Drake is when it comes to Americaor hip hop culture. That makes sense?
It does? It does? Itsounds like that's an argument come for
somebody who's really one side of this. I'm not one. I'm not one
side because I said Drake didn't getswept, that nigga at least got two

(55:13):
songs out of this, and hell, if you talked me into I give
them three. Because Taylor May wascrazy that nigga wrote then that nigga wrote
those lyrics. He wrote the lyrics, bro he wrote the lyrics, and
he told Ken Drick like, no, no, no, nigga, you
gonna You're gonna follow through with thisnow. Granted, and that was not
a good movie. In hindsight,that wasn't a good move. But creatively,

(55:38):
that was the best this song Iever heard. Taylor May was the
best this song I ever heard.Creatively. That was creazy. Take so
long to write your records, nigga, and at that moment great that moment,
Yeah, I mean listen, I'mI mean, if everything Kendrick says

(56:01):
is true, it's very possible forDrake to be telling because he's not of
the culture. Well, he's justhe's looking for like ways to make money
off of it. Okay, holdon, hold on, we can't.
We can't do that, bro,because Drake is half black. That's the
first part. The second part ishow of the culture can you be when
you are from Canada? How mayhow many Canadian out there? Kendrick is

(56:25):
shaking and say like, that's exactlywhat I'm trying to tell you. How
many Canadians? How many Canadian niggasyou notice of the culture? I mean,
no one ever? Oh? Okay, all right, so that's okay.
But again that's Kendrick's whole point.He's okay, So okay, okay,

(56:49):
it's twenty one Savage of the cultures. That nigga's British. He's looking
at last since he was eight.Oh so he's of the culture. Yeah,
okay. Here most of his lifehe's killed niggas here. You don't
question twenty one savage. I haveno reason. I got Torch on Lanta
coming real soon. I know him. I got no question reading the question

(57:15):
twenty one Savage. Any nigga thatwill whisper to you on a track I
got, I got no reason tohave any beef with you. Yeah,
and carbody pussy and ship pussy.Yeah. But but I do want to
make known though I don't know howmany niggas is noticing it, but just

(57:36):
how quiet little Wayne has been throughthis whole thing. I just want people
to know that. Yeah, oneday they need to write a book about
why Wayne was so quiet. Itwas his whole thing. Drake needs some
help, Bro, Like help me. Remember that Kevin hurt Skit. Niggas

(57:57):
like help me. That's how Drakeis right now. Somebody need Somebody need
to help Drake. Somebody need tohelp Drake. Bro. You're there,
you're there. Yeah, I didn'thear where you set. I said.

(58:17):
I said, remember that Kevin hurtSkip when he was like help me,
Yeah, that's right now. That'sDrake, Bro, Like Lil Wayne,
like where you at? Like helpthis nigga. This nigga is is bleeding.
This nigga bleeding out in the street, and nobody they just like walking
past him like, oh, youknow, they'll clean up. They clean
him up in the morning, youknow what I mean. Somebody needs to
help this nigga or what's he justaway for niggas to get money, and

(58:44):
now that he's not, you knowhim no more, they're like, oh,
you're not getting money? Whoa,whoa, I'm not. I'm not
gonna let you do that. DrakeDrake is him, bro, don't do
that. Yeah, him isn't Likehe's a guy that got people a lot
of money. Because if Drake's makehim, Like if Drake made three hundred

(59:05):
million in his career for music,people behind him made a lot more.
Well, I'm saying Drake is stillhim. That's what I'm saying. I
mean, what's it does if youneed to hit. If you needed a
hit today and you called you andyou knew Drake's number, and you call
him like y'all do a song,He's not to want to pick up.
He was he said, you're notgonna pick up He wouldn't pick up a

(59:28):
man because you under stage krip walkingand ship. Not after these last couple
of piles, I've yeah, knowyou been talking crazy. Don't worry when
that nigga diss you, I'll beI'll make sure you heard it. I
may even I may even retweet theline. My niggas start talking to you.
That's fine, because I'll just goto that nigga house. All these

(59:51):
one sided, all these one sided, uh till my niggas got swept.
Nig nigga didn't get swept, bro, I'll just go to that nigga house
spot. There's whatever I told you'all. Put my money on Drake. If
y'all got into a fight, andafter I whoop his ass, I come
looking for you too, Ma putmy money back. Are you looking?

(01:00:17):
No, you would owe me somemoney and a fade. Shout to Kendrick
lamar Man, great concerts, notat all all right, John, shout
out to Amazon two for putting theconcert on the great camera work. You
know that was great. You thinkyou think streaming concerts is the thing of

(01:00:38):
the future. He didn't gonna stickaround for for for a while, I
hope so for my my pocketbook,I hope so. But then Taylor Swift
just make like thirty million putting herconcert in the theaters. She did,
I mean, didn't do the samelike kar did it. Karye did it.

(01:00:59):
Yeah, but I might have togo that. I'm going to that
future concert through Detroit. I gottabe there for that. I can't see
that on TV. I'm just beinghonest. I can't. I can't see
that on TV. I gotta bethere for that. You are right,
get your tickets, especially when Ilike that. Come on, not yet,
not yet, they still got ticketsavailable though? When is it August

(01:01:19):
fourth? Oh? No, summer? Sam? We can't can't go?
Okay, all right, Well I'mgood man, I got enough for you.
Yeah, we was gonna talk aboutthe boys in the Alco life,
but we're gonna say that for nexttime around. John, hit the people
with your socials. Let's get thefucking about here. Bilbo swagens s w
A G g A n z onthe Elon's Twitter machine. You can find

(01:01:43):
me there. You heard it isand ladies and gentlemen. John's d m's
are wide open. Why so,if you want to give him some hate
about being so one sided and hisbeef, I'm definitely not. You better
put that poll up too. Whoa, Oh, that's crazy. I need
to get out out of here.I'm out nourished and that's why I'm talking
like that. If you guys arelooking for me, I'm still running the

(01:02:05):
embrace up Twitter handle because the hackersgot my personal shit. A du beat
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(01:02:27):
are out of here. Peace,