EMDR Chat

EMDR Chat

With more than 60 years combined experience in EMDR therapy, co-founders of EMDR Professional Training, Curtis Rouanzoin, PhD, and Michelle Gottlieb, PsyD, address subjects for the EMDR therapy clinician in practice and for psychotherapists interested in becoming trained in EMDR therapy. EMDR Professional Training provides Basic and Advanced EMDR therapy training to mental health professionals including a supportive membership community, EMDR certification program, and advanced modules for EMDR therapy clinicians. Visit us at: emdrprofessionaltraining.com or call 949-445-6548.Use a coupon code for 10% off any course! Use code: EMDRCHAT10

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February 25, 2026 21 mins

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What's going on in EMDR Therapy in the rest of the world?  Today Curt talks with Michelle about her recent experience presenting at EMDR Asia in early February 2026, along with other EMDR Professional Training faculty Deborah Silveria, PhD, Mary E. Eason, PhD, and Holly Forman-Patel, LMFT, LPC.  Michelle shares training experiences in Mumbai, India, and Shanghai, China, where the work of EMDR Therapy is spreading an...

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If you’ve been wondering about the use of psychedelics in EMDR Therapy, this is the place. In this episode, Curt, Michelle, and guest Wendy Byrd continue their discussion of how EMDR Therapy may be enhanced with the use of psychedelics when working with clients.
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If you’re familiar with the DSM-5, you know the long list of diagnoses and their descriptions. But once you start practicing EMDR Therapy, you’ll begin to see that sometimes these diagnoses are not accurate for the clients you’re seeing. Listen to Curt and Michelle’s enlightening discussion about diagnosis confusion, complex PTSD, and the clarity that trauma-informed EMDR Therapy can bring.
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Interested in the use of psychedelics in your practice of EMDR Therapy? Today Curt and Michelle are joined by Wendy Byrd, LPC, LMFT, EMDRIA approved Consultant and Trainer, who incorporates psychedelics into her practice. Find out Wendy’s story and how this addition may enhance EMDR Therapy work with certain clients.
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Many clinicians ask us how to adapt EMDR Therapy with children, as several factors can help or even hinder the work. Listen today as we discuss the wonderful world of working with kids and EMDR Therapy! EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Trainer, and Holly Forman-Patel, LMFT, LPCC, joins us today with sage advice from her years of working with children in EMDR Therapy.
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What are intensives and how do they work? Should you consider this structure as something to use in your practice? In this episode Curt and Michelle talk with Amy Ikerd, EMDRIA Certified Therapist and Approved Consultant, who sheds light on various approaches and practices for intensives for clients in EMDR Therapy.
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What if we could help an entire population of clients who, from historical perspective, have often been seen as beyond help? In this episode, Curt and Michelle host guest Mary Eason, PhD, who shares her background with those who struggle with psychotic symptoms and how EMDR therapy transforms the therapist’s internal response to clients and helps this population like no other.
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Did you know you don’t have to abandon all other therapeutic approaches when using EMDR therapy? EMDR is actually versatile and adaptable. In this episode, Curt and Michelle talk about EMDR Therapy’s ability to integrate with various other modalities, giving you adaptive options for your clients.
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EMDR Therapy was an in-person therapy for many years until Covid-19 changed the landscape for good. That’s when today’s guests, Yanick Steinbeck and Benjamin Viehauser, found their calling to “help the helpers” with their tech-based business. Hear how Yanick and Benjamin created BilateralStimulation.io, an online platform for EMDR therapists and their clients, and how virtual EMDR therapy is proving to be a highly effe...
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How can EMDR therapy transform your couples therapy practice? Today’s episode features EMDR Trainer and couples therapy expert, Lori Cao, MA, LMFT, CSAT. Find out how you can introduce and use EMDR therapy to help couples reduce reactivity and effectively resolve trauma, ultimately creating positive outcomes for couples.
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What about strong emotion in session? Should it always be grounded? In today's episode, Curt and Michelle discuss reprocessing within Siegal's Window of Tolerance and why strong emotion is not necessarily a negative in EMDR therapy.
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February 17, 2025 21 mins

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What is Complex PTSD and how can EMDR therapy help? In today’s episode, Curt Rouanzoin, PhD and Michelle Gottlieb, PsyD explain what Complex PTSD is, the history of the diagnosis, and how EMDR therapy becomes the gold standard for trauma-informed care.
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Can EMDR Therapy work in tandem with Dialectical Behavioral Therapy? According to our guest, EMDR approved Trainer, Kelly Hurley, LPC, the resounding answer is yes! Listen today to learn how these two work together to build skills and resilience in clients.
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Holidays can be very difficult for people. The loss of loved ones, family crises, chaotic or toxic relationships, even natural disasters—these factors can disrupt what should be a wonderful time of the year.Listen to Curt and Michelle as they discuss the role of memory networks within the EMDR perspective and how EMDR therapy can help clients through the holidays and more.
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What happens when your client experiences EMDR Therapy? And what are the effects of the work? Listen as we talk to a real EMDR therapy client who uses words and phrases like: "liberated," "free," and "easier to breathe." When trauma is de-sensitized, clients are able to see their world with new eyes, and as our guest reports, "happier and healthier than I've been in a long time...
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How can we immediately stabilize those who have experienced a disastrous event? The answer, according to Dr. Gary Quinn, is ISP – Immediate Stabilization Procedure. Listen to this fascinating conversation with Dr. Quinn about the research and how this immediate stabilization technique is being used successfully, even by paraprofessionals, in current world events.
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October 1, 2024 21 mins

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The DeTUR protocol was developed by Dr. AJ Popky, one of the pioneers of EMDR therapy, as an approach to target the cravings that lead to addiction. Learn about this effective adaptation of EMDR therapy featuring Dr. Kristen Garubba, who specializes in DeTUR and teaches our live DeTUR trainings.
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What about working with people who suffer from narcissistic abuse? What does this type of abuse look like and how can clinicians help this population? This episode features an interview with EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Trainer, Candise Leininger, who has worked with multiple narcissistic abuse survivors and also holds advanced trainings in this area.
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Are you working with clients who deal with chronic pain or illness? EMDR therapy for those who are physically suffering is both possible and effective. Listen as Michelle shares her area of specialty and discusses with Curt how EMDR therapy can help those who are truly hurting from the inside out.
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Future Template, part of the three-pronged approach of EMDR Therapy, is one of the greatest tools for the clinician, but is is often misunderstood. Listen to today’s episode with Curt and Michelle as they clarify how to use future templates to their max potential with clients.
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